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Earnings HistoryForecast Epsilon Energy EPS ResultsActual EPS$0.02Consensus EPS N/ABeat/MissN/AOne Year Ago EPSN/AEpsilon Energy Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$6.50 millionExpected RevenueN/ABeat/MissN/AYoY Revenue GrowthN/AEpsilon Energy Announcement DetailsQuarterQ2 2023Date8/10/2023TimeN/AConference Call DateFriday, August 11, 2023Conference Call Time11:00AM ETUpcoming EarningsEpsilon Energy's Q1 2025 earnings is scheduled for Tuesday, May 6, 2025Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfilePowered by Epsilon Energy Q2 2023 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrAugust 11, 2023 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 5 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good morning, and welcome to the Epsilon Energy Second Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in listen only mode. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Andrew Williamson, I'm Chief Financial Officer. Operator00:00:38Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:42Thank you, operator, and on behalf of the management team, I would like to welcome all of you to today's conference call to review Epsilon's Q2 2023 financial and operational results. Before we begin, I'd like to remind you that our comments may include forward looking statements. It should be noted that a variety of factors Today's call may contain certain non GAAP financial measures. Please refer to the earnings release that we issued yesterday for disclosures on forward looking statements and reconciliations of non GAAP measures. With that, I'd like to turn the call over to Jason Stebel, our Chief Executive Officer. Speaker 200:01:30Thank you, Andrew. Good morning to everyone and thank you for participating in the Epsilon Energy Second Quarter 2023 Conference Call. Andrew and I are joined by Henry Clanton, our COO. We will be available to answer questions later in Speaker 300:01:44the call. I hope you Speaker 200:01:45have had a chance to review our press release as I will not go through it in detail, but I would like to touch on a few highlights before I turn the call over to Andrew and Henry for their comments. I am pleased to report that we delivered a productive quarter advancing several key initiatives despite natural gas pricing headwinds in the Marcellus. We closed investments in 2 areas in the Permian Basin, adding geographic operator and commodity diversity to our business. We also expanded our liquidity by $5,000,000 under a new $35,000,000 credit facility with reduced costs and increased flexibility. Finally, our strong balance sheet allowed us to opportunistically purchase year to date almost 5% of our shares outstanding at an average cost of $5.21 per share. Speaker 200:02:34Net of our investments, we had no free cash flow in the quarter for the first time during my tenure. This is due to the depressed pricing for natural gas, especially in our area of the Marcellus and the significant leasehold in drilling capital investments we made in the Permian. We have been active yet disciplined in our pursuit of new investments and you should expect that to continue. Some opportunities Such as our recent one in New Mexico will be accretive day 1, while others such as Ector County will contribute over longer periods of time with the pace of development. What doesn't change is our focus on deploying our resources to create durable growth in our per share equity value. Speaker 200:03:15Now, I'd like to turn the call over to Andrew and Henry for some comments on our finances and operations. Speaker 100:03:21Thank you, Jason. I'd like to highlight the new credit facility with Frost Bank, which we closed in June. As evidenced by our balance sheet and history, We take a cautious approach to the use of leverage in our capital structure. That said, we think it's important to have available liquidity to take advantage of attractive opportunities, Both acquisitions and investments in our existing asset base as they present themselves. We added 4 years of And $5,000,000 of liquidity with the new deal on what we believe are commercially attractive terms. Speaker 100:03:54On the recently announced transactions in the Permian, We've started to see contribution from the liquids volumes during the quarter with the New Mexico wells partially offsetting the revenue declines in Pennsylvania on lower natural gas Wellhead prices and we expect to see more of this in the second half of the year as the First Texas wells come online. The large acreage position in Acthar County provides a path for growth through the drill bit in addition to our substantial remaining location inventory in the Marcellus. Now to Henry for comments on the operations. Thank you, Andrew. Speaker 400:04:28In the Northern Delaware Basin in Eddy County, New Mexico, the company participated in 2 horizontal Wolfcamp wells. Based upon flowback results today, we are pleased to report the productivity of these wells are exceeding projections. On the Central Basin platform in Ector County, the appraisal program in this Mississippian Barnett project is ongoing. Following the drilling of the initial well in the 2nd quarter, the second well is currently drilling with back to back completions planned for late in the 3rd quarter And first production expected in the 4th quarter. As previously reported, the initial appraisal plans for this Speaker 200:05:17Thank you, guys. Operator, we can now open the line for questions. Operator00:06:26Our first question will come from Tom McEntire of MFF. Please go ahead. Speaker 300:06:32Yes. Good morning, gentlemen. Maybe you could just comment a little bit on your strategies and thoughts on Natural gas pricing as we head into end of this year, next year, and because I know you did some hedging and I don't know if that's just going to Roll off or just what you're if you have a strategy yet or how you think about it? Speaker 200:06:56Thanks, Tom. Yes, we had some fear that we'd see An overbuild on inventories as we were coming out of last winter and clearly that's played out. We had put some hedges on as a precautionary hedge to that outcome. In retrospect, obviously, we would have liked to Speaker 300:07:19have had Speaker 200:07:19more On hedge, at present, we don't have any additional hedges extending beyond October. We do agree that there will be a strengthening as we head into winter. I think the key determinant at this point is Where do we end fall inventory builds in early November? Right now, draws Builds have rolled over just a little bit. So I think there's some hope that we're going to come in, in the winter here and realize Something close to where we are on strip. Speaker 200:07:58So short answer is, we don't yet have any plans for additional hedges. It's something we watch very We're going to be watching the inventories. For us in Marcellus, obviously, there's not a lot of in basin demand. So Really, the weather coming into the shoulder season here is going to be a big determinant for us and how we might Act proactively on a hedging basis. Speaker 300:08:25The strip for next year, the rest of this year, next year, It looks to be quite better than what turned out to be reality this year. Is that good enough for you or do you just want to see some more factors before you would make a decision? Speaker 200:08:44Yes. I think the key thing obviously will be weather and What everybody is waiting for is some sort of moderation of production in the gas basins, primarily in the Haynesville and what's coming out of the Midland, I think those are going to be the big drivers on inventories. We're starting to see some of that Production moderate or at least the growth moderate. So again, combination of normal weather and continued moderation on the gas side is probably Set us up for better pricing as we head into the winter. But I'm certainly no expert. Speaker 200:09:22We watch it very closely. So we've been surprised. Again, What we tell people is our balance sheet affords us the opportunity to be opportunistic around the hedge program. That played out well in the position that we put on. That said, it's Really hard to lean in on a big hedge position when you have the liquidity that we do. Speaker 200:09:49So we monitor it closely. It's a big So it's something that you may see us put some more hedges on it. But at this point, we don't have any firm plans Right. Speaker 300:10:01I guess one of the things I'm just trying to in my own mind, say forget either anybody's trying to out guess where the market's going to go. If it just went to where the strip is now, wouldn't that be a substantial uptick for you folks next year versus Even what you did this year with the hedging that you did? Speaker 200:10:20Yes, absolutely. Our Marcellus netback average in the 2nd quarter was something in the 135 and Mcf range. So that's pretty ugly. We've had periods where we've been down near $1 or below in the history of this company, But certainly, that's as bad as we've been in the Marcellus since 2021, 2020 period. So Certainly. Speaker 200:10:51What happens in the Marcellus because there's not a big in basin demand is we're at the very end of the demand structure. So the netbacks get Pretty gnarly in the summertime when gas is flowing to the Gulf Coast and storage down there and we're at the very end of that line Speaker 300:11:12Well, it seems to me, with as you say with your balance sheet and with the better out to the future than what we experienced. Of course, the strip a year ago was great too. But not knowing the future, it just seems like you're in a much better position. The industry is in a much better position. So and you're in a stronger position To be cute with not cute, but to be to wait to see how things play out in the event you do want to hedge or just want to play it. Speaker 300:11:42I'm just But I think as it is now, you would have a much improved winter spring 2024 than you had even with the hedges you put on In 'twenty three, so and things can change, but it seems like they're changing in your favor, not the other way around like we were last year. Speaker 200:12:04Yes, I think that's a good bet when we're in the low single digit dollars here on prices that we've got more upside Exposure than we do downside. And as I said, activity is really moderated in the Marcellus, Haynesville starting to roll over. So given some normal weather, I think we're biased to the upside, but it's something we're just going to have to watch. And really, the next 90 days is going to be critical to what the strip is going to look like in the winter and through next year. Speaker 300:12:41And as far as the recent uptick, which might have some legs in oil itself, Does that make it it probably makes it harder for you to find more expansion in the Permian or wherever you're looking. I imagine prices have risen to reflect that, but is there anything in your mind you want to say about that? Speaker 200:13:10We're active at looking at things. We're excited about the Ector County. We'll have more to report on that On the next call, by that time, we should have completed those first Two wells by the time we have our Q3 conference call. And as Henry mentioned, at this point, we're going to sit with the operator In the early part of Q4 and lay out a plan for Hector County activity next year, but Our initial guide on that is 2 to 4 gross wells. So we're a quarter of that. Speaker 200:13:46So that would be anywhere from a half to a full well. As far as additional opportunities, what we've been looking at most Split focused opportunities. I think we'll continue to lean that way. Obviously, The PDP market we find to be pretty attractive or pretty unattractive just because it's so competitive. But we've looked at a constellation of different things And we'll continue to do so, but nothing imminent to report today on that front. Speaker 300:14:27Thanks. I think lastly, the press release I referred to a after the quarter ended, I think a buyback of 500,000 share block in the stock. I kind of watch it carefully. I don't remember seeing a volume spike like that. Obviously, it happened. Speaker 300:14:43Was that done Was that a privately negotiated transaction or is that done on the market? I don't remember seeing a block like that. Speaker 200:14:50It was done on the market At the very beginning of July. Speaker 300:14:56Okay. Speaker 200:14:56Right after the holiday, July 6. Speaker 300:14:59Okay. Speaker 200:14:59I'd like to find Speaker 300:15:00out. It wasn't done with an insider or a major shareholder, I don't believe, but I can figure that out myself since I missed it. Speaker 200:15:07That's right. Speaker 300:15:10So I'm glad to see it. You got a good price. Thank you. Speaker 200:15:13Thanks. Thanks, Tom. Operator00:15:21This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Jason Stebel, CEO, for any closing remarks. Speaker 200:15:31Thank you, operator. I appreciate everybody taking the time to join us today for the call. And as always, appreciate your Support for Epsilon and we look forward to hearing from you as we go forward and have a great weekend. Thank you. Operator00:15:49The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation and you may now disconnect.Read morePowered by Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallEpsilon Energy Q2 202300:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2x Earnings DocumentsPress Release(8-K)Quarterly report(10-Q) Epsilon Energy Earnings HeadlinesWhy Epsilon Energy Ltd (EPSN) Is Up the Most So Far in 2025April 26 at 6:05 PM | msn.comEpsilon Energy Ltd. 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There are 5 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good morning, and welcome to the Epsilon Energy Second Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in listen only mode. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Andrew Williamson, I'm Chief Financial Officer. Operator00:00:38Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:42Thank you, operator, and on behalf of the management team, I would like to welcome all of you to today's conference call to review Epsilon's Q2 2023 financial and operational results. Before we begin, I'd like to remind you that our comments may include forward looking statements. It should be noted that a variety of factors Today's call may contain certain non GAAP financial measures. Please refer to the earnings release that we issued yesterday for disclosures on forward looking statements and reconciliations of non GAAP measures. With that, I'd like to turn the call over to Jason Stebel, our Chief Executive Officer. Speaker 200:01:30Thank you, Andrew. Good morning to everyone and thank you for participating in the Epsilon Energy Second Quarter 2023 Conference Call. Andrew and I are joined by Henry Clanton, our COO. We will be available to answer questions later in Speaker 300:01:44the call. I hope you Speaker 200:01:45have had a chance to review our press release as I will not go through it in detail, but I would like to touch on a few highlights before I turn the call over to Andrew and Henry for their comments. I am pleased to report that we delivered a productive quarter advancing several key initiatives despite natural gas pricing headwinds in the Marcellus. We closed investments in 2 areas in the Permian Basin, adding geographic operator and commodity diversity to our business. We also expanded our liquidity by $5,000,000 under a new $35,000,000 credit facility with reduced costs and increased flexibility. Finally, our strong balance sheet allowed us to opportunistically purchase year to date almost 5% of our shares outstanding at an average cost of $5.21 per share. Speaker 200:02:34Net of our investments, we had no free cash flow in the quarter for the first time during my tenure. This is due to the depressed pricing for natural gas, especially in our area of the Marcellus and the significant leasehold in drilling capital investments we made in the Permian. We have been active yet disciplined in our pursuit of new investments and you should expect that to continue. Some opportunities Such as our recent one in New Mexico will be accretive day 1, while others such as Ector County will contribute over longer periods of time with the pace of development. What doesn't change is our focus on deploying our resources to create durable growth in our per share equity value. Speaker 200:03:15Now, I'd like to turn the call over to Andrew and Henry for some comments on our finances and operations. Speaker 100:03:21Thank you, Jason. I'd like to highlight the new credit facility with Frost Bank, which we closed in June. As evidenced by our balance sheet and history, We take a cautious approach to the use of leverage in our capital structure. That said, we think it's important to have available liquidity to take advantage of attractive opportunities, Both acquisitions and investments in our existing asset base as they present themselves. We added 4 years of And $5,000,000 of liquidity with the new deal on what we believe are commercially attractive terms. Speaker 100:03:54On the recently announced transactions in the Permian, We've started to see contribution from the liquids volumes during the quarter with the New Mexico wells partially offsetting the revenue declines in Pennsylvania on lower natural gas Wellhead prices and we expect to see more of this in the second half of the year as the First Texas wells come online. The large acreage position in Acthar County provides a path for growth through the drill bit in addition to our substantial remaining location inventory in the Marcellus. Now to Henry for comments on the operations. Thank you, Andrew. Speaker 400:04:28In the Northern Delaware Basin in Eddy County, New Mexico, the company participated in 2 horizontal Wolfcamp wells. Based upon flowback results today, we are pleased to report the productivity of these wells are exceeding projections. On the Central Basin platform in Ector County, the appraisal program in this Mississippian Barnett project is ongoing. Following the drilling of the initial well in the 2nd quarter, the second well is currently drilling with back to back completions planned for late in the 3rd quarter And first production expected in the 4th quarter. As previously reported, the initial appraisal plans for this Speaker 200:05:17Thank you, guys. Operator, we can now open the line for questions. Operator00:06:26Our first question will come from Tom McEntire of MFF. Please go ahead. Speaker 300:06:32Yes. Good morning, gentlemen. Maybe you could just comment a little bit on your strategies and thoughts on Natural gas pricing as we head into end of this year, next year, and because I know you did some hedging and I don't know if that's just going to Roll off or just what you're if you have a strategy yet or how you think about it? Speaker 200:06:56Thanks, Tom. Yes, we had some fear that we'd see An overbuild on inventories as we were coming out of last winter and clearly that's played out. We had put some hedges on as a precautionary hedge to that outcome. In retrospect, obviously, we would have liked to Speaker 300:07:19have had Speaker 200:07:19more On hedge, at present, we don't have any additional hedges extending beyond October. We do agree that there will be a strengthening as we head into winter. I think the key determinant at this point is Where do we end fall inventory builds in early November? Right now, draws Builds have rolled over just a little bit. So I think there's some hope that we're going to come in, in the winter here and realize Something close to where we are on strip. Speaker 200:07:58So short answer is, we don't yet have any plans for additional hedges. It's something we watch very We're going to be watching the inventories. For us in Marcellus, obviously, there's not a lot of in basin demand. So Really, the weather coming into the shoulder season here is going to be a big determinant for us and how we might Act proactively on a hedging basis. Speaker 300:08:25The strip for next year, the rest of this year, next year, It looks to be quite better than what turned out to be reality this year. Is that good enough for you or do you just want to see some more factors before you would make a decision? Speaker 200:08:44Yes. I think the key thing obviously will be weather and What everybody is waiting for is some sort of moderation of production in the gas basins, primarily in the Haynesville and what's coming out of the Midland, I think those are going to be the big drivers on inventories. We're starting to see some of that Production moderate or at least the growth moderate. So again, combination of normal weather and continued moderation on the gas side is probably Set us up for better pricing as we head into the winter. But I'm certainly no expert. Speaker 200:09:22We watch it very closely. So we've been surprised. Again, What we tell people is our balance sheet affords us the opportunity to be opportunistic around the hedge program. That played out well in the position that we put on. That said, it's Really hard to lean in on a big hedge position when you have the liquidity that we do. Speaker 200:09:49So we monitor it closely. It's a big So it's something that you may see us put some more hedges on it. But at this point, we don't have any firm plans Right. Speaker 300:10:01I guess one of the things I'm just trying to in my own mind, say forget either anybody's trying to out guess where the market's going to go. If it just went to where the strip is now, wouldn't that be a substantial uptick for you folks next year versus Even what you did this year with the hedging that you did? Speaker 200:10:20Yes, absolutely. Our Marcellus netback average in the 2nd quarter was something in the 135 and Mcf range. So that's pretty ugly. We've had periods where we've been down near $1 or below in the history of this company, But certainly, that's as bad as we've been in the Marcellus since 2021, 2020 period. So Certainly. Speaker 200:10:51What happens in the Marcellus because there's not a big in basin demand is we're at the very end of the demand structure. So the netbacks get Pretty gnarly in the summertime when gas is flowing to the Gulf Coast and storage down there and we're at the very end of that line Speaker 300:11:12Well, it seems to me, with as you say with your balance sheet and with the better out to the future than what we experienced. Of course, the strip a year ago was great too. But not knowing the future, it just seems like you're in a much better position. The industry is in a much better position. So and you're in a stronger position To be cute with not cute, but to be to wait to see how things play out in the event you do want to hedge or just want to play it. Speaker 300:11:42I'm just But I think as it is now, you would have a much improved winter spring 2024 than you had even with the hedges you put on In 'twenty three, so and things can change, but it seems like they're changing in your favor, not the other way around like we were last year. Speaker 200:12:04Yes, I think that's a good bet when we're in the low single digit dollars here on prices that we've got more upside Exposure than we do downside. And as I said, activity is really moderated in the Marcellus, Haynesville starting to roll over. So given some normal weather, I think we're biased to the upside, but it's something we're just going to have to watch. And really, the next 90 days is going to be critical to what the strip is going to look like in the winter and through next year. Speaker 300:12:41And as far as the recent uptick, which might have some legs in oil itself, Does that make it it probably makes it harder for you to find more expansion in the Permian or wherever you're looking. I imagine prices have risen to reflect that, but is there anything in your mind you want to say about that? Speaker 200:13:10We're active at looking at things. We're excited about the Ector County. We'll have more to report on that On the next call, by that time, we should have completed those first Two wells by the time we have our Q3 conference call. And as Henry mentioned, at this point, we're going to sit with the operator In the early part of Q4 and lay out a plan for Hector County activity next year, but Our initial guide on that is 2 to 4 gross wells. So we're a quarter of that. Speaker 200:13:46So that would be anywhere from a half to a full well. As far as additional opportunities, what we've been looking at most Split focused opportunities. I think we'll continue to lean that way. Obviously, The PDP market we find to be pretty attractive or pretty unattractive just because it's so competitive. But we've looked at a constellation of different things And we'll continue to do so, but nothing imminent to report today on that front. Speaker 300:14:27Thanks. I think lastly, the press release I referred to a after the quarter ended, I think a buyback of 500,000 share block in the stock. I kind of watch it carefully. I don't remember seeing a volume spike like that. Obviously, it happened. Speaker 300:14:43Was that done Was that a privately negotiated transaction or is that done on the market? I don't remember seeing a block like that. Speaker 200:14:50It was done on the market At the very beginning of July. Speaker 300:14:56Okay. Speaker 200:14:56Right after the holiday, July 6. Speaker 300:14:59Okay. Speaker 200:14:59I'd like to find Speaker 300:15:00out. It wasn't done with an insider or a major shareholder, I don't believe, but I can figure that out myself since I missed it. Speaker 200:15:07That's right. Speaker 300:15:10So I'm glad to see it. You got a good price. Thank you. Speaker 200:15:13Thanks. Thanks, Tom. Operator00:15:21This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Jason Stebel, CEO, for any closing remarks. Speaker 200:15:31Thank you, operator. I appreciate everybody taking the time to join us today for the call. And as always, appreciate your Support for Epsilon and we look forward to hearing from you as we go forward and have a great weekend. Thank you. Operator00:15:49The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation and you may now disconnect.Read morePowered by