NASDAQ:SDIG Stronghold Digital Mining Q2 2023 Earnings Report $2.81 0.00 (0.00%) As of 03/18/2025 Earnings HistoryForecast Stronghold Digital Mining EPS ResultsActual EPS-$2.40Consensus EPS -$1.27Beat/MissMissed by -$1.13One Year Ago EPSN/AStronghold Digital Mining Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$18.23 millionExpected Revenue$22.20 millionBeat/MissMissed by -$3.97 millionYoY Revenue GrowthN/AStronghold Digital Mining Announcement DetailsQuarterQ2 2023Date8/10/2023TimeN/AConference Call DateThursday, August 10, 2023Conference Call Time10:00AM ETUpcoming EarningsStronghold Digital Mining's next earnings date is estimated for Wednesday, April 30, 2025, based on past reporting schedules. Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Stronghold Digital Mining Q2 2023 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrAugust 10, 2023 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 7 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good morning, and welcome to Stronghold Digital Mining's Conference Call for the Second Quarter Ended June 30, 2023. My name is Norma, and I'll be your operator this morning. Before this call, Stronghold issued results for the Q2 2023 in a press release, which will be available in the Investors section of the company's website at www.strongholdigitalmining.com. You can find a link to the Investors section at the top of the homepage. Joining us today on the call are Stronghold's Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Greg Beard and Chief Financial Officer, Matt Smith. Operator00:00:36Following their remarks, we will open the call for questions. Before we begin, Alex Kupton from Gateway Group will make a brief introductory statement. Mr. Cuthin, please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:50Thank you, operator. Good morning, everyone, and welcome. Today's slide presentation, along with our earnings release And financial disclosures were posted to our website earlier today and can be accessed on our website at www. Strongholddigitalmining.com. Some statements we're making today may be considered forward looking statements under securities law and involve a number of risks and uncertainties. Speaker 100:01:16As a result, we caution you that there are a number of factors, many of which are beyond our control, which could cause actual results and events to differ materially from those described in the forward looking statements. For more detailed risks, uncertainties and the assumptions related to our forward looking statements, please see the disclosures in our earnings release and public filings made with the Securities and Exchange Commission. We disclaim any obligation or undertaking to update forward looking statements to reflect We will also discuss non GAAP financial metrics and encourage you to read our disclosures and the reconciliation tables to applicable GAAP measures in our earnings release carefully as you consider these metrics. We expect to file our quarterly report on Form 10 Q on or prior to August 11, 2023 with the Securities and Exchange Commission, which sets forth detailed disclosures and descriptions of our business as well as uncertainties and other variable circumstances, including, but not limited to, risks and uncertainties identified under the caption Risk Factors and our previously filed annual report on Form 10 ks filed on April 3, 2023, and our subsequently filed quarterly report on Form 10 Q. You may access Stronghold's Securities and Exchange Commission filings for free by visiting the SEC website at www.sec.govorstronghold's Investor Relations website at ir. Speaker 100:02:54Strongholddigitalmining.com. I would like to remind everyone that this call is being recorded and will be made available for replay via a link available in the Investor Relations section of Stronghold's website. Now, I would like to turn the call over to Stronghold's Chairman and CEO, Greg Beard. Greg? Speaker 200:03:12Good morning, everyone, And thank you for joining us on our Q2 2023 earnings call. For today's call, we're going to reference an associated slide presentation that is available through the webcast and on the Investor Relations section of our corporate website. During the second quarter, Stronghold continued to take proactive steps to execute on our strategic growth plan, expanding our Hash rate capacity to approximately 3.6 exahash With the expectation of reaching our full 4 exahash of capacity by September 1, further positioning the company for long term Sustainable success with increased revenue and cash flow. Before turning the call over to our CFO, Matt Smith, For a review of our financial results, I would like to touch on some recent highlights from our business and on our continued confidence in the year ahead. Let's start on Slide 3. Speaker 200:04:07As a reminder to everyone joining us today, Stronghold owns and operates 2 waste Coal reclamation and power generation facilities in Pennsylvania, scrubgrass and Panther Creek, with aggregate power capacity of 165 Megawatts. Today, we have over 40,000 minuteers delivered or under contract to be delivered. Additionally, We continue to seek opportunities to expand our capacity by deploying 25 megawatts of owned end to end data center equipment at a new site that we expect will be able to support at least 1 exahash. Moving to Slide 4. Last year, we announced a strategy to delever, reduce costs and further build out our mining fleet opportunistically to better position Stronghold for long term Since achieving those targets, we're now focused on execution and resiliency. Speaker 200:05:03As we prepare for the next halving, It has become increasingly important for us to make the right moves to improve our operational efficiency and expand our mining fleet in a cost effective way that maximizes earning potential. Since April, we have added approximately 1.6 Exahash of Hash rate capacity through purchase and posting agreements with incremental spending of only 15,000,000 which equates to approximately $10 per terahash for high hash rate, high efficiency miners. These miners include over 6,000 MicroBT M50 and M50S miners, 4000 A1346 and 2000 A1246 minuteers associated with the Canaan Bitcoin Mining Agreement And 2,000 additional purchased A1346 minuteers. We expect that all of these miners will be installed by September 1, which puts us on track to reach our data center capacity for Exahash 1 month earlier than expected. In addition to growing our mining fleet, We also remain focused on improving operational efficiency and lowering expenses associated with our operations. Speaker 200:06:20We've eliminated more than a third of our fixed costs over the last year and continue to attract a net cost of power Between $40 $50 per megawatt hour. Transitioning to Slide 5. I'd like to dive a little deeper on our recent miner additions. Starting with our purchase of MicroBTE miners on the left. We initially purchased 5,000 M50 minuteers in April, And then we purchased over 1,000 more M50 and M50S miners in July. Speaker 200:06:52The total cost was approximately 12,000,000 While hash price has pulled back from where it was at the time of these deals, based on a $0.07 hash price and a $45 per megawatt hour cost of power, We would expect $10,000,000 of annual EBITDA uplift from these transactions and we would expect an internal rate of return exceeding 100%. Even at a $0.06 hash price, we would expect returns well in excess of our cost of capital. Moving to the Canaan Bitcoin Mining Agreement and the purchase of Canaan Miners on the right. We recently entered into a 2 year Bitcoin Mining Agreement with Canin for 4000A1346 and A1246 minuteers. In July, we subsequently expanded this agreement by 2000 A1346 minuteers And simultaneously purchased another 2000 A1346 minuteers from Canaan for approximately 3,000,000 These miners are objectively among our best performers in our air cooled strong box containers and provide an attractive value proposition given the combination of high hash rate, energy efficiency and price point. Speaker 200:08:09In aggregate, we would expect $7,000,000 of annual EBITDA uplift From the Canaan transactions, assuming a $0.07 hash price $45 per megawatt hour cost of power And similar to the purchases of MicroBT Miners, the forecasted return profile is exceptional. Looking at the Kanan and MicroBT deals in the aggregate, based on current market pricing, we would expect incremental annual EBITDA of $17,000,000 with only $15,000,000 of capital invested, demonstrating our continued focus on capital efficiency. As a quick aside, I wanted to highlight that we believe That combination of prevailing hash prices and prevailing mining hardware prices represents the most attractive capital deployment opportunity that we have seen in the space. As shown on this page, current market pricing results in forecasted triple digit IRRs and paybacks around 1 year. This forecasted return profile is stronger than any that we have seen historically, even back in 2021 when Bitcoin prices approached $70,000 Moving to Slide 6. Speaker 200:09:24We currently have approximately 3.7 exahash of Hash rate capacity and expect to reach our current data center capacity of 4 exahash Hash by September 1. With a contracted Hash rate capacity of 4.2 exahash, we will look to optimize Hash rate, Energy efficiency and slots. And we remain focused on a new location for a third site where we plan to utilize the 25 megawatts of End to end data center equipment in inventory. We have identified target locations for the new site and we plan to provide more details by the end of the third Looking to the chart on the right and further demonstrating our capital efficiency, we have been able to make investments recently at highly compelling price points with CapEx of $10 per terahash this year, a significant improvement from $60 per tera hash for 2021 and the first half of twenty twenty two. We believe this reflects our capacity to strategically and opportunistically That said, I would like to pass it over to our CFO, Matt Smith, to further discuss our financials and results from the quarter. Speaker 300:10:43Thanks, Greg. I'd like to go over our results from the quarter and briefly touch on our balance sheet as well. Our total revenue for the Q2 of 2023 was $18,200,000 which included revenue of $13,800,000 from cryptocurrency and self mining, dollars 3,100,000 from cryptocurrency hosting, $700,000 from the sale of energy and $600,000 from capacity sales. We mined 626 Bitcoin during the quarter, representing approximately 43% of growth when compared to the Q4 of 2022 and 1% sequential growth from the Q1 of 2023, Despite Bitcoin network cash rate growth of 39% and 23% during the same periods respectively, GAAP net loss was $11,700,000 and adjusted EBITDA was a loss of $2,600,000 The reconciliation for those figures is included in the appendix. On the environmental side, during the quarter, we removed approximately 140,000 tons of co refuse from piles and returned approximately 81,000 tons of beneficial used ash to remediate these toxic coal piles. Speaker 300:11:54This important work Continues to underscore one of our core value propositions of being an environmentally friendly Bitcoin miner. Lastly, I'd like to briefly discuss our balance sheet and 2 related events that impacted it during the quarter. When comparing results from this quarter's end date on June 30, 2023 August 7, 2023, the company held approximately 5,100,000 and $4,600,000 in cash and cash equivalents along with 47 Bitcoin and 35 Bitcoin on our balance sheet respectively. At both respective dates, Stronghold had approximately $59,000,000 in debt outstanding. Finally, I wanted to briefly discuss 2 recent items impacting our share count. Speaker 300:12:40This May, we announced a 1 for 10 reverse stock split. The decision to affect the reverse stock split was primarily to increase our per share market price of the company's Class A common stock and bring the company into compliance With NASDAQ's minimum bid price requirement, we also put in place a $15,000,000 at the market offering, which enables but does not require us to sell shares of our Class A common stock. We're able to use the ATM Optimistically, in funding the company's growth, if it is compelling to do so. You can find more details regarding our latest share count In our capitalization table slide in the appendix. Now moving to Slide 8. Speaker 300:13:24We understand that there are a number of ways to value businesses with cash flow and key drivers of cash flow as metrics being the most useful. Using most of those metrics, Stronghold is undervalued when compared to our public peers. While DCF valuation and multiples on cash flow metrics are generally best indicators. The range of market assumptions used by Equity Research as well as the funding requirements for peers to achieve their growth plans make comparability quite difficult for such methodologies. Here we show enterprise value, which is the value of equity and debt, less cash and Bitcoin holdings divided by current Hash rate capacity and Bitcoin production, the primary drivers of revenue in our industry. Speaker 300:14:08When looking at these metrics, Stronghold currently trades at close to a 60% discount compared to our peers. This is surprising to us and we believe our valuation discount will narrow over time as we remain well positioned relative to our peers. I will now turn the call back over to Greg for closing remarks. Speaker 200:14:28Thank you, Matt. To summarize what we've discussed today, we are executing on the objectives we have communicated to the market. We are on track To reach our current data center capacity of 4 exahash in the coming weeks and we have dramatically improved our cost profile and balance sheet. We remain confident in the strength of the business and our growth prospects, and we look forward to sharing additional operational updates in the future. With that operator, let's open the call up for questions. Operator00:15:00Thank you. Please wait for your name to be announced. Please stand by while we compile the Q and A roster. One moment for our first question please. Question comes from the line of Chase White with Compass Point Research. Operator00:15:27Your line is now open. Speaker 400:15:29Thanks. Good morning, guys. So, a couple if I may. How should we think about the amount and the cadence of CapEx In the second half of this year, presumably it'd be mostly in 3Q, but just love some color on that. Speaker 200:15:49Yes, sure. Hi, Chase. Good morning and thanks for listening. So I think what we want to make sure everyone understands is that we Have spent what we need to spend to get to our 4 ex Hash number and any incremental spending Related to minor purchases will just be to upgrade or potentially for our 3rd site where We have the 25 megawatts of equipment. So I think what's important to note is that we may spend additional capital, but it will be associated with growth. Speaker 200:16:22To the extent you're modeling in a capital spend related to mining, know that you're then modeling a number beyond for Exahash. Of course, sometimes we make investments in the plants and so we could have and we've got a plan Outages later this year that will be very short and won't be expensive. So I think you can model in a little bit of capital for that, but it's Not all of the big numbers. Does that help? Speaker 400:16:55Yes. But maybe just to put a finer point on it, like in the Q3, I think you guys said that you had spent some in July. So I'm just trying to get a sense of like for modeling purposes, how much we should think about that's already been spent in Q3? Speaker 300:17:10Chase, it will be about $3,000,000 for miners specifically. Got I think just to drive Greg's point home, that's all that's required to get to 4. And we've Provided guidance that by the end of this quarter or shortly thereafter, we're going to Share with the market what we expect to do with any next coming growth project, which we refer to as a 3rd site. And so, I mean, currently there is no additional capital expected. But if we were to go forth with the 3rd site, we would definitely have plans On how we're going to creatively fund it, what the growth would represent for a step function in revenue and cash flow And pay back on anything we would do, but at this point in time, we haven't there's no additional capital plan for miners beyond that unless we high grade over time as Greg described. Speaker 300:18:06And just a reminder, we've provided guidance previously of $2,000,000 to $4,000,000 for outages this year. We're still we did a significant outage at Panther in the Q2 that flowed through operations abatements expense. At this point in time, we don't plan significant outages, as Greg said, and so we're still sticking to our $2,000,000 to $4,000,000 of guidance for the year. But if we choose to take a plant offline for a few days in September to give it some TLC, we may still do that, but we still believe our $2,000,000 to $4,000,000 of added guidance is good. Speaker 400:18:49Got it. That's helpful. And then next question is, are you able to give us any updated thoughts on incremental Potential for MASH sales? Speaker 300:19:02Yes. So, I think we at the beginning of the year, we provided kind of $1,000,000 bogey And we have not updated that. At this point, we don't see a need to update that. I think we feel pretty good about being on track for that. And so we look forward to updating you closer to the end of the year to judge how we did against that original Hypothesis? Speaker 300:19:26Got it. Thanks. I think we've I think the year has gone on and we have done A lot of scientific testing of our ash. I think that we've seen the value of it has gone our views of the value of it have gone up and not down. And you just sort of I'll let you think through what that may mean, but I think we look forward to sharing with you additional potential uses of ash in the near future. Speaker 300:19:52So we'll look forward to coming back to you with that. Operator00:19:58Thank you. One moment for our next question please. Our next question comes from the line of Kev Dede with H. C. Wainwright. Operator00:20:12Your line is now open. Speaker 500:20:14Good morning, gentlemen. Thanks so much for having me on the call. Greg, can we sort of peel the onion back a little bit on your Specific fleet operation, the I'm curious about the what I know it's Early, but I'm wondering if you can give us any feedback on the operation of the Kanan miners that you've seen so far And how you plan on or how you see Your overall fleet efficiency progressing with the inclusion of the new miners you've bought? Yes. Speaker 200:20:57Hey, that's both great questions. So I think the answer on the Kanan is that they are, I would say, tied for our best performing model. We're happy with they for one thing deliver the miners when they say they're going to deliver them and they work when we plug them in And they're efficient. So it's tough to and we have like the early read is the uptime for these miners is in the And then I think the ones that show up not working, they turn around and send us working ones. So really happy with that, That might have reflected in relationships, which is why you've seen that we've experienced with them Already since we created that relationship, I guess, 6 months ago was when we first started. Speaker 200:21:52So I think we're in terms of overall fleet efficiency, we're trending toward 33 joules per terahash. And obviously, hey, with having coming up, we're hopeful that you and others will recognize that having a Like an in house low cost efficient fleet We'll put us in a good position to do well relatively. So I think you expect that the fleet efficiency to trend in the right direction and the more efficient direction over time. I think we're constantly moving and evaluating New JVs and capital efficient ways to improve the efficiency of the fleet And that will not change. That activity will be accelerating and increasing we think over the next Speaker 500:23:01Can you offer us a little more detail on how you saw The PGM Energy market noting that energy sales were down significantly sequentially and year over year. I'm Kind of wondering how what you saw how you position yourself against what you saw and what you're expecting? Speaker 200:23:25Yes. So, hey, we're a blend of being in the power business and the Bitcoin mining business. So like the strength of our model Is that if power prices are high, we help the grid and turn off the data center and sell power into the grid to take advantage of these high prices. If power prices are below our cost of power, we can do the reverse and buy power from the grid instead of making it ourselves. And so that gives us what we described as like a multi way option. Speaker 200:23:55I think going into any summer, you as a on the power production side, You have high hopes for big spikes in power prices where you would cycle the data centers off and take advantage of those spikes. And if you were to study where power prices end up, ended up this summer, we really only had 3 or 4 days That was above where we would achieve had we adjust the mine. And I think that's probably exponentially lower than what we expected. And I think that's going to roll out probably The curve for the fall in the winter, Our pricing crisis this summer and I think if there's anything you learn about being in this business is that current expectations Do not have really much correlation to future outcomes. And so I think we're still very happy in a macro sense to be in the power business in PJM Because of the tens of thousands of megawatts that are coming offline and the thousands of megawatts of intermittent power That's being added, that's going to really cause that grid to look more like Texas than what PGM has looked like in the past. Speaker 200:25:22So I think we're expecting more volatility and we're expecting our model Of being able to help the grid by supplying power when needed and pull power from the grid when it helps as well. And there are pricing signals that are built in that help us do that. We're still happy with the model, but in terms of like The short run, this summer we expected to sell more power at higher prices than what we did. I think Matt, we have some data to talk about that as well. Speaker 300:25:53Yes. So Kevin, coming into the summer, I think July August blended PJM around the clock prices were about $50 a megawatt. That's obviously down substantially versus last year. It was probably one of the tightest markets On the back of Russia and Ukraine, the European gas tightness, etcetera, etcetera, exports. And so when you roll that forward, Modeled for $50 a megawatt expected the vol that Greg described because typically you get some. Speaker 300:26:26We're probably about through the summer. And so we're still hopeful that When power prices are above $100 to $120 a megawatt to mine for Bitcoin and so our we'll curtail our miners and happily sell power and surprise that operation. And so August is still mostly ahead of us. Early to mid September, you can get some serious price dislocations, and so we're optimistic. But I think you've seen with the cost cutting programs that focus on capital efficiency, we're not betting the business on higher power prices Importantly, as you look forward to 2024, the winter, the coming winter, Summer during future prices are expected to be higher than current prices. Speaker 300:27:24And so I think we're We're looking for this kind of loose natural gas market that has been But when you go into 2024 and April of 2024 and the halving, a distinct difference between our business and the rest of the Bitcoin miners Is that when we wake up in April and you have the having, our power operations, Our ability to sell power and the cash flow we can generate from that business do not have, unlike Bitcoin mining where there's obviously risk Around the having and we've been investing accordingly. So we look forward to our prospects and business model demonstrating its differentiation as we go over the next 6 to 12 Speaker 500:28:17Last question for me on this, Greg. But you alluded to Maybe some dynamism within the PGM grid. And I'm curious, now I apologize that I don't know more of this Speaker 300:28:32myself, but as you look Speaker 500:28:32across that grid, But as you look across that grid and perhaps the advent of any projects, You alluded to ERCOT, and I understand there's some interest in developing peaker plants that could Perhaps readily address these market price swings. And I'm wondering if you think the parallels between ERCOT and PGM are close there as well. Is there anything that you can see in your crystal ball that might Change the dynamics from a new construction perspective? Speaker 200:29:11No. You know what, I'll send you it's been well reported. I'll I'll send you my favorite article, the Wall Street Journal put out maybe 3 or 4 months ago, where they were talking about, hey, where is All of the power going to come from for PGM given all of the planned shutdowns of the coal infrastructure. I think it's something like with the 60,000 Megawatt grid network That is going to be experiencing more than 10,000 megawatts of shutdowns. And so And that's just way, way too many megawatts to lose to have solar and wind replaced. Speaker 200:29:52And so that was in the form of a question, hey, where is this How we're going to come and in a Socratic way asking, hey, PGM, what are you doing to manage your grid, given that we have all of these announcements and not enough new builds to serve the power needs of the Region. So I think in Texas, we saw something a little bit different and that there seems to be that's sort of The biggest renewable market in the country, which means it's the most intermittent service in the country, Which I would argue using data that says, hey, that's what's causing massive price swings In Texas, sometimes a power the sun is shining, the wind is blowing and there's more power than can be consumed. Power prices can actually sometimes go negative. At the same time, when it's cold and or super hot and the wind isn't blowing, People are willing to pay a lot of power if it's in short supply. So I think that's the unintended consequence of having a more renewable greener grid Good morning, so we're making more price swings and probably an overall average higher price Than what a base of fossil fuel plan would have. Speaker 200:31:12But I'll forward you this Walter's journal article. I'll post it on our Twitter account for those who are listening To read as well. But I think the theme in reading it, it will make you comfortable To be invested in the power business with an environmentally beneficial power source like ours That should survive and benefit from these swings. Speaker 500:31:43How would you imagine PGM answers that Socratic question? Operator00:31:47One moment for our next question, please. Speaker 200:31:52Well, hey, they can't sit idle, right? That's the that's what What can happen is we can't have a tripling of the power price and a true shortage. So in a way the market forces will answer And if power prices go up, then you see plants that were scheduled to shut down, they'll decide not to, right? But then I think then we're not going to get the cleaner, Greener plan that's also been projected by all these power owners and developers. So It's a my expectation is that we'll see market forcing prevail over like a green push. Speaker 200:32:34But hey, that's really the like every boardroom is asking what are we doing to get more carbon out of the year. So it'll be a tough question. Speaker 500:32:47Thank you so much for entertaining the questions, gentlemen. Appreciate it Speaker 300:32:51greatly. Thanks, Jeff. Operator00:32:56Hello. One moment for our next question. One moment for our next question. Question comes from Lucas Pipes with B. Riley Securities. Operator00:33:30Your line is now open. Speaker 600:33:32Yes. Hey, good morning, everyone. This is Nick Giles on for Lucas. Congrats on the progress recently here. Last quarter, you'd noted that at scrubgrass, you have 700 acres there and really only half of the transmission capacity is being used. Speaker 600:33:50I think you'd said that maybe the opportunity to increase power gen capacity there would not be really until next year. And Just was wondering, is this something that could be before having, after having or really just independent of the having event altogether? Thank you so much. Speaker 200:34:11Hey, that's a great question and thanks for joining the call. I think we've said I think we made that disclosure and it's known that we have more capacity there at scrub grounds and a lot of acreage. We're constantly looking at opportunities to improve our business model, make it more or more stable Speaker 300:34:36Asset. Speaker 200:34:39And so I think you can expect over the next quarter or 2 News on how we're going to take advantage of that. Maybe not just on the power side, I think we've also said, hey, we're studying carbon sequestration. So I think it's a very good thing to have access to both transmission, Access potentially to if you're familiar with what it takes to put new assets online in our network, it's about a 3 year wait So we're setting ways to sort of cut the line and get access, put more power on the grid in a much shorter timeframe than that. And then, hey, I think the infrastructure bill that can pay you between $80 $160 a ton for carbon credits That has our attention. So we're very much studying that market and hope to have news Really positive news in the next quarter too, but we're just not quite ready Speaker 600:35:39to talk about it yet. Speaker 200:35:42But that's please ask again every quarter until So we come out with the 8 ks and press release, but that's we are focused on. Speaker 600:35:51Got it. Thanks, Greg. That's really helpful. Maybe just one more from my end. Overclocking and underclocking has been kind of a Popular topic among your peers as we approach the having and just wanted to get your perspective on this at the minor level And really maybe a reminder is if you if this is kind of less important for Stronghold just given your optionality on the power side? Speaker 600:36:19Thank you very much. Speaker 200:36:20Yes. I think so far we have we've done a really poor job at overclocking, Under clocking and we're aware that we can do it. We have a software. But I think that's something that I think you could see in the coming quarters Like upside to our model versus what we've probably guided to, because we are now Because we now have this 4 exahash of miners installed or coming, we're now focused on More than we have in the past, really just focused on, hey, how do we get our efficiency to be maximized. And that will include overclocking, underclocking And probably adding some new minor control software. Speaker 200:37:06It's a little bit more complicated for us because we are interconnected with the grid. But yes, I think so far that's just I'm happy to tell you that, hey, we are there is upside from here On the way we've been operating our assets. Speaker 600:37:25Well, Craig, I really Appreciate all the detail today and continue best of Speaker 200:37:32luck. Thank you very much. Operator00:37:35Thank you. And I'm currently showing no further questions at this time. I'd like to hand the conference back to Mr. Greg Beard closing remarks. Speaker 200:37:53Great. Well, hey, I just want to thank the investors for the interest in Stronghold. Hopefully, you've noticed that we have Been improving every quarter for this year and we hope and expect That we'll see continued great execution from our teams both on the power side and data center side over the coming quarters and we look forward to our next meeting. Thanks everyone. Operator00:38:19This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect. 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Email Address About Stronghold Digital MiningStronghold Digital Mining (NASDAQ:SDIG), a crypto asset mining company, focuses on Bitcoin mining in the United States. It operates in two segments, Energy Operations and Cryptocurrency Operations. It also owns and operates coal refuse power generation facilities; and provides environmental remediation and reclamation services. 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There are 7 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good morning, and welcome to Stronghold Digital Mining's Conference Call for the Second Quarter Ended June 30, 2023. My name is Norma, and I'll be your operator this morning. Before this call, Stronghold issued results for the Q2 2023 in a press release, which will be available in the Investors section of the company's website at www.strongholdigitalmining.com. You can find a link to the Investors section at the top of the homepage. Joining us today on the call are Stronghold's Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Greg Beard and Chief Financial Officer, Matt Smith. Operator00:00:36Following their remarks, we will open the call for questions. Before we begin, Alex Kupton from Gateway Group will make a brief introductory statement. Mr. Cuthin, please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:50Thank you, operator. Good morning, everyone, and welcome. Today's slide presentation, along with our earnings release And financial disclosures were posted to our website earlier today and can be accessed on our website at www. Strongholddigitalmining.com. Some statements we're making today may be considered forward looking statements under securities law and involve a number of risks and uncertainties. Speaker 100:01:16As a result, we caution you that there are a number of factors, many of which are beyond our control, which could cause actual results and events to differ materially from those described in the forward looking statements. For more detailed risks, uncertainties and the assumptions related to our forward looking statements, please see the disclosures in our earnings release and public filings made with the Securities and Exchange Commission. We disclaim any obligation or undertaking to update forward looking statements to reflect We will also discuss non GAAP financial metrics and encourage you to read our disclosures and the reconciliation tables to applicable GAAP measures in our earnings release carefully as you consider these metrics. We expect to file our quarterly report on Form 10 Q on or prior to August 11, 2023 with the Securities and Exchange Commission, which sets forth detailed disclosures and descriptions of our business as well as uncertainties and other variable circumstances, including, but not limited to, risks and uncertainties identified under the caption Risk Factors and our previously filed annual report on Form 10 ks filed on April 3, 2023, and our subsequently filed quarterly report on Form 10 Q. You may access Stronghold's Securities and Exchange Commission filings for free by visiting the SEC website at www.sec.govorstronghold's Investor Relations website at ir. Speaker 100:02:54Strongholddigitalmining.com. I would like to remind everyone that this call is being recorded and will be made available for replay via a link available in the Investor Relations section of Stronghold's website. Now, I would like to turn the call over to Stronghold's Chairman and CEO, Greg Beard. Greg? Speaker 200:03:12Good morning, everyone, And thank you for joining us on our Q2 2023 earnings call. For today's call, we're going to reference an associated slide presentation that is available through the webcast and on the Investor Relations section of our corporate website. During the second quarter, Stronghold continued to take proactive steps to execute on our strategic growth plan, expanding our Hash rate capacity to approximately 3.6 exahash With the expectation of reaching our full 4 exahash of capacity by September 1, further positioning the company for long term Sustainable success with increased revenue and cash flow. Before turning the call over to our CFO, Matt Smith, For a review of our financial results, I would like to touch on some recent highlights from our business and on our continued confidence in the year ahead. Let's start on Slide 3. Speaker 200:04:07As a reminder to everyone joining us today, Stronghold owns and operates 2 waste Coal reclamation and power generation facilities in Pennsylvania, scrubgrass and Panther Creek, with aggregate power capacity of 165 Megawatts. Today, we have over 40,000 minuteers delivered or under contract to be delivered. Additionally, We continue to seek opportunities to expand our capacity by deploying 25 megawatts of owned end to end data center equipment at a new site that we expect will be able to support at least 1 exahash. Moving to Slide 4. Last year, we announced a strategy to delever, reduce costs and further build out our mining fleet opportunistically to better position Stronghold for long term Since achieving those targets, we're now focused on execution and resiliency. Speaker 200:05:03As we prepare for the next halving, It has become increasingly important for us to make the right moves to improve our operational efficiency and expand our mining fleet in a cost effective way that maximizes earning potential. Since April, we have added approximately 1.6 Exahash of Hash rate capacity through purchase and posting agreements with incremental spending of only 15,000,000 which equates to approximately $10 per terahash for high hash rate, high efficiency miners. These miners include over 6,000 MicroBT M50 and M50S miners, 4000 A1346 and 2000 A1246 minuteers associated with the Canaan Bitcoin Mining Agreement And 2,000 additional purchased A1346 minuteers. We expect that all of these miners will be installed by September 1, which puts us on track to reach our data center capacity for Exahash 1 month earlier than expected. In addition to growing our mining fleet, We also remain focused on improving operational efficiency and lowering expenses associated with our operations. Speaker 200:06:20We've eliminated more than a third of our fixed costs over the last year and continue to attract a net cost of power Between $40 $50 per megawatt hour. Transitioning to Slide 5. I'd like to dive a little deeper on our recent miner additions. Starting with our purchase of MicroBTE miners on the left. We initially purchased 5,000 M50 minuteers in April, And then we purchased over 1,000 more M50 and M50S miners in July. Speaker 200:06:52The total cost was approximately 12,000,000 While hash price has pulled back from where it was at the time of these deals, based on a $0.07 hash price and a $45 per megawatt hour cost of power, We would expect $10,000,000 of annual EBITDA uplift from these transactions and we would expect an internal rate of return exceeding 100%. Even at a $0.06 hash price, we would expect returns well in excess of our cost of capital. Moving to the Canaan Bitcoin Mining Agreement and the purchase of Canaan Miners on the right. We recently entered into a 2 year Bitcoin Mining Agreement with Canin for 4000A1346 and A1246 minuteers. In July, we subsequently expanded this agreement by 2000 A1346 minuteers And simultaneously purchased another 2000 A1346 minuteers from Canaan for approximately 3,000,000 These miners are objectively among our best performers in our air cooled strong box containers and provide an attractive value proposition given the combination of high hash rate, energy efficiency and price point. Speaker 200:08:09In aggregate, we would expect $7,000,000 of annual EBITDA uplift From the Canaan transactions, assuming a $0.07 hash price $45 per megawatt hour cost of power And similar to the purchases of MicroBT Miners, the forecasted return profile is exceptional. Looking at the Kanan and MicroBT deals in the aggregate, based on current market pricing, we would expect incremental annual EBITDA of $17,000,000 with only $15,000,000 of capital invested, demonstrating our continued focus on capital efficiency. As a quick aside, I wanted to highlight that we believe That combination of prevailing hash prices and prevailing mining hardware prices represents the most attractive capital deployment opportunity that we have seen in the space. As shown on this page, current market pricing results in forecasted triple digit IRRs and paybacks around 1 year. This forecasted return profile is stronger than any that we have seen historically, even back in 2021 when Bitcoin prices approached $70,000 Moving to Slide 6. Speaker 200:09:24We currently have approximately 3.7 exahash of Hash rate capacity and expect to reach our current data center capacity of 4 exahash Hash by September 1. With a contracted Hash rate capacity of 4.2 exahash, we will look to optimize Hash rate, Energy efficiency and slots. And we remain focused on a new location for a third site where we plan to utilize the 25 megawatts of End to end data center equipment in inventory. We have identified target locations for the new site and we plan to provide more details by the end of the third Looking to the chart on the right and further demonstrating our capital efficiency, we have been able to make investments recently at highly compelling price points with CapEx of $10 per terahash this year, a significant improvement from $60 per tera hash for 2021 and the first half of twenty twenty two. We believe this reflects our capacity to strategically and opportunistically That said, I would like to pass it over to our CFO, Matt Smith, to further discuss our financials and results from the quarter. Speaker 300:10:43Thanks, Greg. I'd like to go over our results from the quarter and briefly touch on our balance sheet as well. Our total revenue for the Q2 of 2023 was $18,200,000 which included revenue of $13,800,000 from cryptocurrency and self mining, dollars 3,100,000 from cryptocurrency hosting, $700,000 from the sale of energy and $600,000 from capacity sales. We mined 626 Bitcoin during the quarter, representing approximately 43% of growth when compared to the Q4 of 2022 and 1% sequential growth from the Q1 of 2023, Despite Bitcoin network cash rate growth of 39% and 23% during the same periods respectively, GAAP net loss was $11,700,000 and adjusted EBITDA was a loss of $2,600,000 The reconciliation for those figures is included in the appendix. On the environmental side, during the quarter, we removed approximately 140,000 tons of co refuse from piles and returned approximately 81,000 tons of beneficial used ash to remediate these toxic coal piles. Speaker 300:11:54This important work Continues to underscore one of our core value propositions of being an environmentally friendly Bitcoin miner. Lastly, I'd like to briefly discuss our balance sheet and 2 related events that impacted it during the quarter. When comparing results from this quarter's end date on June 30, 2023 August 7, 2023, the company held approximately 5,100,000 and $4,600,000 in cash and cash equivalents along with 47 Bitcoin and 35 Bitcoin on our balance sheet respectively. At both respective dates, Stronghold had approximately $59,000,000 in debt outstanding. Finally, I wanted to briefly discuss 2 recent items impacting our share count. Speaker 300:12:40This May, we announced a 1 for 10 reverse stock split. The decision to affect the reverse stock split was primarily to increase our per share market price of the company's Class A common stock and bring the company into compliance With NASDAQ's minimum bid price requirement, we also put in place a $15,000,000 at the market offering, which enables but does not require us to sell shares of our Class A common stock. We're able to use the ATM Optimistically, in funding the company's growth, if it is compelling to do so. You can find more details regarding our latest share count In our capitalization table slide in the appendix. Now moving to Slide 8. Speaker 300:13:24We understand that there are a number of ways to value businesses with cash flow and key drivers of cash flow as metrics being the most useful. Using most of those metrics, Stronghold is undervalued when compared to our public peers. While DCF valuation and multiples on cash flow metrics are generally best indicators. The range of market assumptions used by Equity Research as well as the funding requirements for peers to achieve their growth plans make comparability quite difficult for such methodologies. Here we show enterprise value, which is the value of equity and debt, less cash and Bitcoin holdings divided by current Hash rate capacity and Bitcoin production, the primary drivers of revenue in our industry. Speaker 300:14:08When looking at these metrics, Stronghold currently trades at close to a 60% discount compared to our peers. This is surprising to us and we believe our valuation discount will narrow over time as we remain well positioned relative to our peers. I will now turn the call back over to Greg for closing remarks. Speaker 200:14:28Thank you, Matt. To summarize what we've discussed today, we are executing on the objectives we have communicated to the market. We are on track To reach our current data center capacity of 4 exahash in the coming weeks and we have dramatically improved our cost profile and balance sheet. We remain confident in the strength of the business and our growth prospects, and we look forward to sharing additional operational updates in the future. With that operator, let's open the call up for questions. Operator00:15:00Thank you. Please wait for your name to be announced. Please stand by while we compile the Q and A roster. One moment for our first question please. Question comes from the line of Chase White with Compass Point Research. Operator00:15:27Your line is now open. Speaker 400:15:29Thanks. Good morning, guys. So, a couple if I may. How should we think about the amount and the cadence of CapEx In the second half of this year, presumably it'd be mostly in 3Q, but just love some color on that. Speaker 200:15:49Yes, sure. Hi, Chase. Good morning and thanks for listening. So I think what we want to make sure everyone understands is that we Have spent what we need to spend to get to our 4 ex Hash number and any incremental spending Related to minor purchases will just be to upgrade or potentially for our 3rd site where We have the 25 megawatts of equipment. So I think what's important to note is that we may spend additional capital, but it will be associated with growth. Speaker 200:16:22To the extent you're modeling in a capital spend related to mining, know that you're then modeling a number beyond for Exahash. Of course, sometimes we make investments in the plants and so we could have and we've got a plan Outages later this year that will be very short and won't be expensive. So I think you can model in a little bit of capital for that, but it's Not all of the big numbers. Does that help? Speaker 400:16:55Yes. But maybe just to put a finer point on it, like in the Q3, I think you guys said that you had spent some in July. So I'm just trying to get a sense of like for modeling purposes, how much we should think about that's already been spent in Q3? Speaker 300:17:10Chase, it will be about $3,000,000 for miners specifically. Got I think just to drive Greg's point home, that's all that's required to get to 4. And we've Provided guidance that by the end of this quarter or shortly thereafter, we're going to Share with the market what we expect to do with any next coming growth project, which we refer to as a 3rd site. And so, I mean, currently there is no additional capital expected. But if we were to go forth with the 3rd site, we would definitely have plans On how we're going to creatively fund it, what the growth would represent for a step function in revenue and cash flow And pay back on anything we would do, but at this point in time, we haven't there's no additional capital plan for miners beyond that unless we high grade over time as Greg described. Speaker 300:18:06And just a reminder, we've provided guidance previously of $2,000,000 to $4,000,000 for outages this year. We're still we did a significant outage at Panther in the Q2 that flowed through operations abatements expense. At this point in time, we don't plan significant outages, as Greg said, and so we're still sticking to our $2,000,000 to $4,000,000 of guidance for the year. But if we choose to take a plant offline for a few days in September to give it some TLC, we may still do that, but we still believe our $2,000,000 to $4,000,000 of added guidance is good. Speaker 400:18:49Got it. That's helpful. And then next question is, are you able to give us any updated thoughts on incremental Potential for MASH sales? Speaker 300:19:02Yes. So, I think we at the beginning of the year, we provided kind of $1,000,000 bogey And we have not updated that. At this point, we don't see a need to update that. I think we feel pretty good about being on track for that. And so we look forward to updating you closer to the end of the year to judge how we did against that original Hypothesis? Speaker 300:19:26Got it. Thanks. I think we've I think the year has gone on and we have done A lot of scientific testing of our ash. I think that we've seen the value of it has gone our views of the value of it have gone up and not down. And you just sort of I'll let you think through what that may mean, but I think we look forward to sharing with you additional potential uses of ash in the near future. Speaker 300:19:52So we'll look forward to coming back to you with that. Operator00:19:58Thank you. One moment for our next question please. Our next question comes from the line of Kev Dede with H. C. Wainwright. Operator00:20:12Your line is now open. Speaker 500:20:14Good morning, gentlemen. Thanks so much for having me on the call. Greg, can we sort of peel the onion back a little bit on your Specific fleet operation, the I'm curious about the what I know it's Early, but I'm wondering if you can give us any feedback on the operation of the Kanan miners that you've seen so far And how you plan on or how you see Your overall fleet efficiency progressing with the inclusion of the new miners you've bought? Yes. Speaker 200:20:57Hey, that's both great questions. So I think the answer on the Kanan is that they are, I would say, tied for our best performing model. We're happy with they for one thing deliver the miners when they say they're going to deliver them and they work when we plug them in And they're efficient. So it's tough to and we have like the early read is the uptime for these miners is in the And then I think the ones that show up not working, they turn around and send us working ones. So really happy with that, That might have reflected in relationships, which is why you've seen that we've experienced with them Already since we created that relationship, I guess, 6 months ago was when we first started. Speaker 200:21:52So I think we're in terms of overall fleet efficiency, we're trending toward 33 joules per terahash. And obviously, hey, with having coming up, we're hopeful that you and others will recognize that having a Like an in house low cost efficient fleet We'll put us in a good position to do well relatively. So I think you expect that the fleet efficiency to trend in the right direction and the more efficient direction over time. I think we're constantly moving and evaluating New JVs and capital efficient ways to improve the efficiency of the fleet And that will not change. That activity will be accelerating and increasing we think over the next Speaker 500:23:01Can you offer us a little more detail on how you saw The PGM Energy market noting that energy sales were down significantly sequentially and year over year. I'm Kind of wondering how what you saw how you position yourself against what you saw and what you're expecting? Speaker 200:23:25Yes. So, hey, we're a blend of being in the power business and the Bitcoin mining business. So like the strength of our model Is that if power prices are high, we help the grid and turn off the data center and sell power into the grid to take advantage of these high prices. If power prices are below our cost of power, we can do the reverse and buy power from the grid instead of making it ourselves. And so that gives us what we described as like a multi way option. Speaker 200:23:55I think going into any summer, you as a on the power production side, You have high hopes for big spikes in power prices where you would cycle the data centers off and take advantage of those spikes. And if you were to study where power prices end up, ended up this summer, we really only had 3 or 4 days That was above where we would achieve had we adjust the mine. And I think that's probably exponentially lower than what we expected. And I think that's going to roll out probably The curve for the fall in the winter, Our pricing crisis this summer and I think if there's anything you learn about being in this business is that current expectations Do not have really much correlation to future outcomes. And so I think we're still very happy in a macro sense to be in the power business in PJM Because of the tens of thousands of megawatts that are coming offline and the thousands of megawatts of intermittent power That's being added, that's going to really cause that grid to look more like Texas than what PGM has looked like in the past. Speaker 200:25:22So I think we're expecting more volatility and we're expecting our model Of being able to help the grid by supplying power when needed and pull power from the grid when it helps as well. And there are pricing signals that are built in that help us do that. We're still happy with the model, but in terms of like The short run, this summer we expected to sell more power at higher prices than what we did. I think Matt, we have some data to talk about that as well. Speaker 300:25:53Yes. So Kevin, coming into the summer, I think July August blended PJM around the clock prices were about $50 a megawatt. That's obviously down substantially versus last year. It was probably one of the tightest markets On the back of Russia and Ukraine, the European gas tightness, etcetera, etcetera, exports. And so when you roll that forward, Modeled for $50 a megawatt expected the vol that Greg described because typically you get some. Speaker 300:26:26We're probably about through the summer. And so we're still hopeful that When power prices are above $100 to $120 a megawatt to mine for Bitcoin and so our we'll curtail our miners and happily sell power and surprise that operation. And so August is still mostly ahead of us. Early to mid September, you can get some serious price dislocations, and so we're optimistic. But I think you've seen with the cost cutting programs that focus on capital efficiency, we're not betting the business on higher power prices Importantly, as you look forward to 2024, the winter, the coming winter, Summer during future prices are expected to be higher than current prices. Speaker 300:27:24And so I think we're We're looking for this kind of loose natural gas market that has been But when you go into 2024 and April of 2024 and the halving, a distinct difference between our business and the rest of the Bitcoin miners Is that when we wake up in April and you have the having, our power operations, Our ability to sell power and the cash flow we can generate from that business do not have, unlike Bitcoin mining where there's obviously risk Around the having and we've been investing accordingly. So we look forward to our prospects and business model demonstrating its differentiation as we go over the next 6 to 12 Speaker 500:28:17Last question for me on this, Greg. But you alluded to Maybe some dynamism within the PGM grid. And I'm curious, now I apologize that I don't know more of this Speaker 300:28:32myself, but as you look Speaker 500:28:32across that grid, But as you look across that grid and perhaps the advent of any projects, You alluded to ERCOT, and I understand there's some interest in developing peaker plants that could Perhaps readily address these market price swings. And I'm wondering if you think the parallels between ERCOT and PGM are close there as well. Is there anything that you can see in your crystal ball that might Change the dynamics from a new construction perspective? Speaker 200:29:11No. You know what, I'll send you it's been well reported. I'll I'll send you my favorite article, the Wall Street Journal put out maybe 3 or 4 months ago, where they were talking about, hey, where is All of the power going to come from for PGM given all of the planned shutdowns of the coal infrastructure. I think it's something like with the 60,000 Megawatt grid network That is going to be experiencing more than 10,000 megawatts of shutdowns. And so And that's just way, way too many megawatts to lose to have solar and wind replaced. Speaker 200:29:52And so that was in the form of a question, hey, where is this How we're going to come and in a Socratic way asking, hey, PGM, what are you doing to manage your grid, given that we have all of these announcements and not enough new builds to serve the power needs of the Region. So I think in Texas, we saw something a little bit different and that there seems to be that's sort of The biggest renewable market in the country, which means it's the most intermittent service in the country, Which I would argue using data that says, hey, that's what's causing massive price swings In Texas, sometimes a power the sun is shining, the wind is blowing and there's more power than can be consumed. Power prices can actually sometimes go negative. At the same time, when it's cold and or super hot and the wind isn't blowing, People are willing to pay a lot of power if it's in short supply. So I think that's the unintended consequence of having a more renewable greener grid Good morning, so we're making more price swings and probably an overall average higher price Than what a base of fossil fuel plan would have. Speaker 200:31:12But I'll forward you this Walter's journal article. I'll post it on our Twitter account for those who are listening To read as well. But I think the theme in reading it, it will make you comfortable To be invested in the power business with an environmentally beneficial power source like ours That should survive and benefit from these swings. Speaker 500:31:43How would you imagine PGM answers that Socratic question? Operator00:31:47One moment for our next question, please. Speaker 200:31:52Well, hey, they can't sit idle, right? That's the that's what What can happen is we can't have a tripling of the power price and a true shortage. So in a way the market forces will answer And if power prices go up, then you see plants that were scheduled to shut down, they'll decide not to, right? But then I think then we're not going to get the cleaner, Greener plan that's also been projected by all these power owners and developers. So It's a my expectation is that we'll see market forcing prevail over like a green push. Speaker 200:32:34But hey, that's really the like every boardroom is asking what are we doing to get more carbon out of the year. So it'll be a tough question. Speaker 500:32:47Thank you so much for entertaining the questions, gentlemen. Appreciate it Speaker 300:32:51greatly. Thanks, Jeff. Operator00:32:56Hello. One moment for our next question. One moment for our next question. Question comes from Lucas Pipes with B. Riley Securities. Operator00:33:30Your line is now open. Speaker 600:33:32Yes. Hey, good morning, everyone. This is Nick Giles on for Lucas. Congrats on the progress recently here. Last quarter, you'd noted that at scrubgrass, you have 700 acres there and really only half of the transmission capacity is being used. Speaker 600:33:50I think you'd said that maybe the opportunity to increase power gen capacity there would not be really until next year. And Just was wondering, is this something that could be before having, after having or really just independent of the having event altogether? Thank you so much. Speaker 200:34:11Hey, that's a great question and thanks for joining the call. I think we've said I think we made that disclosure and it's known that we have more capacity there at scrub grounds and a lot of acreage. We're constantly looking at opportunities to improve our business model, make it more or more stable Speaker 300:34:36Asset. Speaker 200:34:39And so I think you can expect over the next quarter or 2 News on how we're going to take advantage of that. Maybe not just on the power side, I think we've also said, hey, we're studying carbon sequestration. So I think it's a very good thing to have access to both transmission, Access potentially to if you're familiar with what it takes to put new assets online in our network, it's about a 3 year wait So we're setting ways to sort of cut the line and get access, put more power on the grid in a much shorter timeframe than that. And then, hey, I think the infrastructure bill that can pay you between $80 $160 a ton for carbon credits That has our attention. So we're very much studying that market and hope to have news Really positive news in the next quarter too, but we're just not quite ready Speaker 600:35:39to talk about it yet. Speaker 200:35:42But that's please ask again every quarter until So we come out with the 8 ks and press release, but that's we are focused on. Speaker 600:35:51Got it. Thanks, Greg. That's really helpful. Maybe just one more from my end. Overclocking and underclocking has been kind of a Popular topic among your peers as we approach the having and just wanted to get your perspective on this at the minor level And really maybe a reminder is if you if this is kind of less important for Stronghold just given your optionality on the power side? Speaker 600:36:19Thank you very much. Speaker 200:36:20Yes. I think so far we have we've done a really poor job at overclocking, Under clocking and we're aware that we can do it. We have a software. But I think that's something that I think you could see in the coming quarters Like upside to our model versus what we've probably guided to, because we are now Because we now have this 4 exahash of miners installed or coming, we're now focused on More than we have in the past, really just focused on, hey, how do we get our efficiency to be maximized. And that will include overclocking, underclocking And probably adding some new minor control software. Speaker 200:37:06It's a little bit more complicated for us because we are interconnected with the grid. But yes, I think so far that's just I'm happy to tell you that, hey, we are there is upside from here On the way we've been operating our assets. Speaker 600:37:25Well, Craig, I really Appreciate all the detail today and continue best of Speaker 200:37:32luck. Thank you very much. Operator00:37:35Thank you. And I'm currently showing no further questions at this time. I'd like to hand the conference back to Mr. Greg Beard closing remarks. Speaker 200:37:53Great. Well, hey, I just want to thank the investors for the interest in Stronghold. Hopefully, you've noticed that we have Been improving every quarter for this year and we hope and expect That we'll see continued great execution from our teams both on the power side and data center side over the coming quarters and we look forward to our next meeting. Thanks everyone. Operator00:38:19This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect. Everyone have a wonderful day.Read morePowered by