YETI Q2 2023 Earnings Call Transcript

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August 10, 2023

There are 11 speakers on the call.

Operator

And thanks for joining us to discuss YETI Holdings' 2nd quarter 2023 results. Leading the call today will be Matt Reinschas, President and CEO and Mike McMullen, CFO. Following our prepared remarks, we'll open the call for your questions. Before we begin, we'd like to remind you that some of the statements that we make today on this call may be considered forward looking, Such forward looking statements are subject to various risks and uncertainties that could cause our actual results to differ materially from these statements. For more information, please refer to the risk factors detailed in our most recently filed Form 10 Q and the Form 8 ks filed with the SEC today.

Operator

We undertake no obligation to revise or update any forward looking statements made today as a result of new information, future events or otherwise, except as required by law. Unless otherwise stated, our financial measures disclosed on the call will be on a non GAAP basis. We use non GAAP measures as we believe they more accurately represent the through operational performance and underlying results of our business. Reconciliations of these non GAAP measures to their most directly comparable GAAP measures are included in the press release or in the presentation posted this morning through our Investor Relations section

Speaker 1

of our website at yeti.com. And now, I'd like

Operator

to turn the call over to Matt.

Speaker 1

Thanks, Tom, and good morning, everyone. YETI remains on pace in 2023 with sales moving to the higher end of our prior range, Strong gross margin expansion and a raise to our adjusted operating margin and full year EPS. Before diving into the results and our strategic priorities, I would like to start with what we are seeing across our diverse channels in this increasingly dynamic environment. Starting with soft coolers and gear bags that have been out of the market the majority of 2023. We remain on track to reintroduce the M20 backpack, the M30 tote and our Sidekick Dry Gear Bag in the 4th quarter.

Speaker 1

We will also launch smaller sizes for each style of soft cooler in the Q4 and extend the sizes of the dry bag line in early 2024. Again, I would like to thank our YETI employees, partners and customers for their tremendous focus and execution throughout this effort to get these products back to market. Regarding overall consumer demand, we continue to see a range of performance across our wholesale and DTC channels. There remains a focus on Drinkware with strong trends around Hydration, color and new styles. We're seeing this play out within our own portfolio and across specific consumer demographics.

Speaker 1

Customers are increasingly gravitating towards many newer formats of our bottles, straw lid tumblers and our new color match bottles. As we continue to grow and diversify our Drinkware category, we have expanded our products to include new size and customization offerings across a range of Yonder water bottles and we're pleased with the highly successful introduction of our Rambler beverage bucket. In hard coolers, we saw strength this past quarter, particularly with our expanded line of wheeled coolers. Offering mobile options, we'll YETI is well positioned to win across our product categories and we're focused on our product development and marketing to take advantage of the trends we view as long term. Looking at our 2nd quarter non GAAP performance, adjusted sales grew 2% for the quarter.

Speaker 1

Results included a 9 point drag from the absence Certain soft coolers offset by solid growth within the rest of the portfolio. This is comping against a very strong year ago period, particularly in wholesale and corporate sales. As indicated, we remain well positioned to deliver on our full year sales target. Our Drinkware business grew 8% led by strong demand in our B2C channel and great reception to our product innovation. Demand for hard coolers and cargo helped offset some of the impact of the soft coolers as a category declined just 6% for the quarter.

Speaker 1

By channel, DTC sales grew 4% led by Amazon and e commerce balancing a bit softer corporate sales, which faced its toughest quarterly compare from the year ago period. Wholesale performance came in better than planned supported by positive sell through excluding the soft cooler impact as well as the initial shipments of Specific fall product. We made a decision to move our fall limited edition launch to early Q3, sensing we had a winner ready to go. As you have seen with the reception to our lilac and camp green colorways, this product was well set up to take advantage of the demand trends we were seeing. Our supply chain team did an excellent job of having product ready earlier than anticipated and our wholesale partners were supportive of the opportunity to take advantage of what we believe would be These products officially launched on July 20.

Speaker 1

As a reminder, in the year ago period, our full commercial launch The second half colors happened in late Q2 versus in July this year. Gross margin continues to be a highlight With adjusted gross margins gaining 2 70 basis points to approach 55%. We are delivering against what we said as it relates to gross margin expansion. Importantly, we are now on pace to exceed our initial gross margin outlook for the year and we see momentum here into 2024. At the same time, as has been our pattern, we continue to invest across our business.

Speaker 1

We remain focused on the many growth opportunities ahead as we see the impact of product, brand and channel expansion. Finally, our balance sheet continues to be a source of strength for our business, highlighted by cash exceeding $220,000,000 We also expanded our credit agreement to better align with our growth trajectory and to provide additional flexibility. Again, these results put us on pace to deliver at the higher end of our top line commitments for the year, while also driving bottom line upside. Now shifting deeper into our strategic growth priorities. As we broaden our consumer base domestically and globally, we continue our balanced A great example of leveraging our heritage in outdoor activities The evolution from barbecue and live fire cooking enthusiasts to the growing influences in the broader world of culinary.

Speaker 1

Here are a couple of micro examples. We recently added Genevieve Taylor and Gil Miller to our ambassador roster. Genevieve is the Founder of the Bristol Fire School and a well respected culinary voice in the UK. Gil is a highly regarded outdoor chef, food show host and author. We partner with both in uniquely YETI ways to We've also built partnerships across several new YouTube channels.

Speaker 1

This includes a multifaceted and integrated partnership during the 2nd season of Eater's Vendor series. In addition, our ambassador, Bradley Owens, recently launched 2 series, Local legends and making it, focused on uncovering the human stories of the fascinating people and what they eat. This is highly consistent with our YETI brand storytelling. In conjunction with expanding audience reach, we're also seeing opportunity in additional seasonal buying moments. We've historically mentioned our moms, dads and grads on these Q2 calls, but we look to enhance additional purchase occasions.

Speaker 1

Finally, we recently published our 3rd ESG report, showcasing our progress as well as the opportunities that remain ahead. The report highlights 2 new circularity programs, YETI rescues and Rambler buyback, both of which we are actively looking to expand. We're also building our own distinct voice as it relates to the durability of our portfolio by highlighting our product and the inherent strength of our design. The launch of our everyday single use campaign this month focuses on durability, a story that is natural to our brand and positions our products against single use alternatives. You'll see this come to life across out of home placement, media platforms and is a centerpiece of several music festivals this summer, including last weekend Lollapalooza in Chicago.

Speaker 1

As we shift to product innovation, let me give you a little more insight into the trends we are seeing and how we continue to build upon YETI's legacy of innovation and long term relevance. Beginning with Drinkware, we have meaningfully diversified our portfolio over the past 10 years. This not only includes form factors, colors and sizing, but also the broadening of use environments and use cases. We are seeing great reception to our bottle assortment with excellent early results of the color matched options available across a wider range of our bottles. Our expansion into both smaller and larger size hydration has enhanced the breadth and reach of our product.

Speaker 1

We are prioritizing Drinkware products including extended sizes of our successful travel mug launched in 2021 and its various straw lid sizes. Customization opportunities continue to extend the value of this category. Our Yandere water bottles are a good example here as we added new sizes, New lid solutions and most recently our first use of multicolor customization. Beyond traditional Drinkware, We debuted our Rambler beverage bucket during the quarter, which performed incredibly well and led to renewed interest in another great YETI caliber product in our iSCOOP. We see continued opportunity to introduce products that encompass both outdoor and everyday use, whether that be at home, around the Camp Fire or in the backyard.

Speaker 1

We have more products coming that will further extend these use cases and environments. Starting with the introduction of the YETI cocktail shaker, which delivers the incredible value proposition of being backwards compatible with a very large portion of the YETI tumbler sold over the past decade. Finally, we were excited to partner with one of the best cast iron masters in the business at Butter Pad Industries to introduce the very limited run YETI 12 inches cast iron skillet. This premium cast iron pan was created as a smoother and lighter skillet without giving up performance or durability, resulting in perfectly balanced teeth for any cooking occasion. It was fun to see the incredible reaction of this product as it was the 3rd highest social engagement for a YETI product release since 2015.

Speaker 1

We were also able to give a strong nod to our culinary community. On the coolers and equipment side, adjusted sales declined 6% for the quarter as we lapped last year's full introduction of our M20 and M30 soft coolers and the impact of those products not in the market this year. As mentioned, hard coolers performed well during the quarter With Rode 48 and Rode 60 wheeled coolers leading the way during the early summer buying season. Combined with the Tundra haul, Our volume of wheeled coolers more than doubled from last year. In soft coolers, our hopper flip posted strong growth ahead of our upcoming relaunch of the M20 and M30 in Q4.

Speaker 1

We also look forward to the introduction of our M12 backpack cooler and the M15 tote cooler, 2 new sizes in the lineup. Our Sidekick Dry Gear case will also return later in the Q4 with additional sizes planned for early 2024. Outside of coolers, we continue to see strong results with our expanded GoBox cargo line, which has also resulted in a nice uptick in our load out bucket. On bags, we continue our wholesale expansion strategy and are excited about the colorway extension in the second half of the year. In addition, Our original fully submersible waterproof pangolin, which launched in 2017 continues to perform very well.

Speaker 1

Now turning to our omnichannel. DTC sales were up 4% supported by continued growth in both new and returning customers. Amazon led the way in the quarter as the channel continues to have a wide reach and to capture a largely distinct DTC audience. Of note, we did see very effective results from our participation in Prime Day last month, where we offered a range of products concentrated in older seasonal colors and end of life product as we continue a planned and effective transition of product to newer generations. On yeti.com, our focus is on building the optimal brand and purchase experience.

Speaker 1

This includes showcasing YETI, simplifying the buying decision and enhancing our customization process. We continue to leverage learnings from our Digital Commerce and Analytics teams to create more personalized experiences and targeted marketing spend across different customer cohorts. From a practical perspective, this means we continue to provide a dynamic website that will best match product and content with the individual customer. In our corporate sales business, sales were roughly flat up against a very strong last year. Even with this, our total customer count continue to grow.

Speaker 1

This remains an important channel for us and we are confident in driving growth here given the product interest, strengthening backlogs and untapped international opportunities. YETI Retail continues to be a strong awareness and customer acquisition vehicle, driving the highest rate of new customers across our B2C channels. While we've seen strong customer acquisition and customer count, we're seeing slightly smaller baskets due primarily to soft cooler products And change in units per transaction, which we attribute to some retail consumer conservatism. Our retail stores remain a very important part of the awareness, Consideration and purchase both in store and throughout our DTC and wholesale channels. This is supported by results from our market based analytics across the 14 existing markets with YETI stores.

Speaker 1

During the Q3, we will open our 15th and 16th stores in San Jose, California and just outside of Minneapolis and Edina, Minnesota. On the wholesale side, sell through was positive excluding the impact of the recall. Results also included the previously mentioned earlier than planned shipment to support the commercial launch of our lilac and camp green colorways. This contributed to the better than planned sales performance for the channel, but we expect to keep combined Q2 and Q3 results in line with prior expectations. International sales grew nearly 20% for the quarter to reach 13.4% of sales, up from 11.5% in last year's Q2.

Speaker 1

While growth in Australia and Europe remain robust, we did see slower growth in Canada given many of the same demand trends facing the domestic business and the outsized impact of the soft coolers. As we have previously outlined, enhancing capabilities The support growth is an overarching theme across our international businesses this year. We've made strong progress on the transition of 3 of our non U. S. Distribution centers with the Netherlands opening in June, Australia in the coming days and the UK plan in the Q4.

Speaker 1

Customization is another big opportunity that we will continue to build in our international regions. Australia and Europe both plan to have the added benefit of customization co located and their 3 PLs. We've also started our investment in data analytics internationally, including marketing attribution work in Australia and Canada. Understanding our customers and driving enhanced effectiveness in our engagement remains significant initiatives in all global markets. On the front end of the business, we continue to invest in driving brand awareness in these markets and continue to actively add international partners and ambassadors who now represent nearly a quarter of our global roster.

Speaker 1

We continue to support some of our newer global reach partnerships such as Oracle Red Bull Racing in the World Surf League, while also establishing newer local relationships with the Rangers Football Club in Glasgow and the North Queensland Cowboys Rugby Club in Australia. Finally, we continue to drive in person engagement and relevance across a range of local events, including the massive Calgary Stampede in Canada, The Seize the Day Women's Surf Festival in Australia and several outdoor and culinary experiences across the UK and Europe from the Game Fair to Meetopia and the Big Grill Barbecue and Food Test. In summary, our While there remain unknowns in the market, we continue to deliver on the basics, building a brand, making great product, driving demand, growing our profitability and scaling internationally. This is supported by an increasingly agile team that is adjusting to meet the needs of the consumer, while always maintaining focus on what makes a YETI, a YETI. I'll now turn the call over to Mike to discuss our financials and outlook in more detail.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Matt. To start, I would like to provide a summary of the adjustments and charges associated with the voluntary product recall that are included in our GAAP results. I'll then focus on our adjusted non GAAP performance, which we believe provides a better picture of our underlying performance for the period. Finally, I'll discuss our updated outlook, including the increase to our full year adjusted EPS target. Regarding the recall, our initial expense reserve taken in the Q4 was based on certain redemption assumptions, including the rate of redemption and type of remedy chosen.

Speaker 2

We began processing returns and claims from customers during the Q2, which has informed several adjustments to our reserve. While the overall redemption rate has been on plan, there have been differences in redemption rates across the impacted products. In addition, of the remedy options we are offering our customers impacted by the recall, we have seen higher than expected gift card elections versus the product replacement remedy option. We have therefore made the following three adjustments to our recall reserve. First, we increased the estimate for future gift card elections resulting in a reduction to 2nd quarter GAAP sales of $24,500,000 2nd, the update to our assumption of future gift card elections also resulted in a corresponding $5,100,000 reduction in GAAP Cost of goods sold given the lower estimated cost of future product replacements.

Speaker 2

And third, our recall related logistics costs are now expected to be lower than our original assumptions, thus resulting in a $10,700,000 benefit to GAAP SG and A expense. Overall, these three adjustments drove a net increase in the estimated recall expense reserve of $8,500,000 this quarter. For more information on these reserve adjustments, which are excluded from our non GAAP results, please refer to our Q2 earnings press release and 10 Q Now moving on to our adjusted non GAAP metrics. 2nd quarter sales increased 2% to 427,000,000 compared to $420,000,000 in the prior year period. As we have previously outlined, we estimate that the stop sale of recalled products impacted our growth rate in Q2 by approximately 900 basis points.

Speaker 2

The quarter also had a $12,500,000 benefit from gift card redemptions related to remedies we are offering customers impacted by the product recall. While not specifically included in our prior outlook, we do believe that some of these redemptions replaced what would have been existing demand and sales during the period. In particular, we saw redemptions across a wide range of products, including products with limited supply such as seasonal colors and new product launches, thus removing an opportunity for us to fulfill an existing order in other channels. Another dynamic that impacted our growth in the Q2 was related to the timing of wholesale shipments. To better support the strong color trends resonating in the market, we made the decision to accelerate the Omnichannel launch of our newest seasonal colors, Cosmic Lilac and Camp Green within Q3.

Speaker 2

This required us to start shipping these colors to the wholesale channel in Q2, which was earlier than what was assumed in our prior outlook. While modestly impacting the timing of sales between the 2nd and third quarters, this dynamic has no impact on our full year results. As Matt mentioned, since their July launch, we have been very pleased with the performance of these new color offerings. From a channel perspective, direct to consumer sales grew 4% to $235,000,000 representing 55% of total sales, led by growth in our Amazon business. In the D2C channel, we saw strong performance in cargo, hard coolers and drinkware, more than offsetting the impact of the recall on soft coolers.

Speaker 2

Wholesale sales decreased 1% to 193,000,000 with a decline in coolers and equipment partially offset by growth in Drinkware. The decline in coolers and equipment was driven again by the impact of the recall on soft partially offset by strong growth in hard coolers and cargo. From a point of sales perspective, we were pleased with our overall sell through performance in Q2, which was positive after we exclude the impact of the product recall. By category, coolers and equipment sales decreased 6% to $181,000,000 but did see strength in cargo and hard coolers. Our expanded line of GoBoxes continues to resonate as we expand distribution in the market.

Speaker 2

Hard coolers have been supported Ramping demand for the Roadie 4860 wheeled coolers as well as by solid growth in our Core Tundra line. And within soft coolers, we continue to see good growth in our products that remain in the market, including the Hopper flip line. Drinkware sales increased 8% to $233,000,000 with growth in both the wholesale and B2C channels. We continue to see the strongest results when we highlight the breadth of our product portfolio, drive newness with color and extend the category into new areas. Our all day Drinkware campaign was very successful, highlighting our wide range of products in the category, while also driving engagement and conversion.

Speaker 2

Bottles remain a strong growth story for the brand, supported by larger formats, new color match straw caps and the addition of Yonder water bottles. Expanding on the strong demand for straw lid options in the category, We continue to see great results with our Rambler 25 35 ounce mugs with straw lids. Finally, the launch of our new beverage bucket exceeded our expectations and supports our optimism as we look to extend the brand into new areas. Internationally, sales grew 19% to $57,000,000 representing approximately 13% of total sales and led by strong growth in Europe and Australia. Gross profit increased 7% to 234,000,000 For 54.9 percent of sales compared to 52.2% in the same period last year.

Speaker 2

The 2 primary benefits this quarter included 330 basis points from lower inbound freight and 130 basis points from lower product costs. These gains were partially offset by 40 basis points from higher depreciation and amortization related to investment and production capacity, 40 basis points from higher customization costs given the continued growth of our custom offerings, 30 basis points from unfavorable foreign currency exchange rates and 80 basis points from all other impacts. SG and A expenses for the quarter increased 15% to $167,000,000 or 39.1 percent of sales compared to 34.6% in the same period last year. Non variable expenses increased 390 basis points as a percent of sales, driven by 2 items that had roughly an equal impact on our year over year deleverage. First, incentive compensation costs for our employees.

Speaker 2

Note that Q2 will see the largest impact from incentive compensation during the year. And second, The impact of the stop sale on our top line growth combined with our continued investments in areas such as headcount, Warehousing and demand creation to support our growth. Variable expenses increased 60 basis points as a percent of sales, primarily reflecting higher Amazon Marketplace fees. Operating income decreased 9% to 67,000,000 or 15.7 percent of sales compared to 17.6% during the same period last year. Net income also decreased 9% to $50,000,000 or $0.57 per diluted share compared to $0.63 in the prior year period.

Speaker 2

Turning to our balance sheet, we ended the 2nd quarter with $223,000,000 in cash compared to $92,000,000 in the year ago period. Inventory decreased 34% to $322,000,000 year over year. Inventory declined sequentially for the 4th straight quarter, down another $25,000,000 for a cumulative reduction of over $168,000,000 from our peak levels in Q2 of 2022. Total debt excluding unamortized deferred financing fees and finance leases was $84,000,000 compared to $101,000,000 at the end of last year's Q2. We did not have a principal payment due in Q2 given we amended our credit facility during the quarter.

Speaker 2

This amendment included an increase of our revolver from $150,000,000 to $300,000,000 as well as the refinancing of our existing term loan balance of $84,000,000 with an extended maturity date to June of 2028. Now turning to our updated fiscal 2023 outlook. We now expect full year sales to increase between 4% 5% compared to fiscal 2022's adjusted net sales. The narrowing of our outlook reflects the Q2 impact of gift card redemption, keeping the rest of the full year factors relatively unchanged. Given the unpredictability of future gift card redemptions, This outlook does not include the impact of any redemptions in the second half of the year.

Speaker 2

We do have some fluctuations of growth across quarters versus our last outlook. However, we continue to expect approximately flat sales growth over the 1st 3 quarters of the year in aggregate, followed by a return to double digit growth in the 4th quarter. This implies a low single digit decline in the 3rd quarter compared to the prior assumption of approximately flat growth with the primary change coming from the updated timing of the shipment of Seasonal colors into the wholesale channel. 2nd half sales include the following assumptions. We expect both product categories will see a sequential decline in year over year growth rates from Q2 to Q3 Before returning to growth in Q4, as we bring our full soft cooler product line up back to the market and continue to expand our Drinkware offerings, We expect wholesale to be down double digits in Q3 on top of a strong comp last year and then return to growth in Q4.

Speaker 2

We expect D2C growth to strengthen as we move into Q3 and then to carry that strength into Q4. Also, we continue to expect D2C mix to reach approximately 60% for the year. And finally, we expect an approximate 900 basis point total impact related to the stop sale in Q3. To reiterate, We remain bullish on our positioning for the Q4, where we expect to drive a lot of energy and newness across the product portfolio and see meaningful acceleration across both our primary product categories and sales channels. Looking at margins, we are increasing our 2023 gross margin target to between 55.5% And 56%, up from 52.7% in fiscal 2022.

Speaker 2

The favorable impact of lower inbound freight cost Continues to be the most significant driver of margin performance this year. In addition, we now expect a favorable impact from product costs for the full year. On the SG and A side, we expect full year SG and A dollar growth in the mid to high teens. The factors that are driving our SG and A rate remain consistent. They include the impact of the stop sale on our top line growth, Incentive compensation, variable expenses to support our D2C businesses and investments to support our future growth.

Speaker 2

From a timing perspective, we expect the SG and A dollar growth rate to be in the mid to high teens for both the 3rd and 4th quarters. We are raising our operating margin range to 15.5% to 16% for the full year. While the 3rd quarter margins are expected to be lower sequentially, we continue to expect over 20% operating margins in the 4th quarter due to both an expected return to double digit revenue growth and our strengthening gross margin profile. Including interest expense of approximately $4,000,000 and an effective tax rate of 25.1%, We are raising our full year adjusted earnings per diluted share outlook to between $2.23 and $2.32 compared to $2.36 in fiscal 2022. As a reminder, this includes a $0.30 to $0.35 estimated impact from the stop sale of products included in the voluntary recall.

Speaker 2

Looking at cadence, we expect that Q3 adjusted earnings per share will decline versus the prior year at a higher rate in Q3 versus what we saw in Q2, ahead of an expected return to strong earnings growth in the Q4. On the cash side, we now expect a Slightly higher level of free cash flow for the year in the $150,000,000 to $200,000,000 range driven by inventory improvements. This includes a $60,000,000 outlook for capital expenditures, which is consistent with our previous outlook. In summary, our Q2 top line results were above our expectations and we are on track to deliver our full year sales target. We continue to react to market trends and extend the brand smartly into new areas and we look forward to having our full product lineup available later this year with the return of the products impacted by the product recall.

Speaker 2

Gross margins continue to improve, Supporting our ongoing investments across the business, but also improving bottom line profitability. Our balance sheet is stronger than ever, driven by continually improving inventory levels and higher free cash flow. And coupled with the recent changes to our credit facility, We believe this will provide additional flexibility as we look to drive future shareholder value. Now I'd like to turn the call back over to the operator to take your questions.

Speaker 3

Thank you very much. We will now begin the question and answer session. We'll take our first question from the line of Randy Konik from Jefferies. Please go ahead.

Speaker 4

I guess, Mike, to start with you, given that we've look, you're coming out of a quarter where The market is clearly feeling like the numbers have bottomed, and you gave good kind of granular guidance for the rest of the year. Can you kind of maybe reorient it, so reeducate us On how we should be just thinking about the long term kind of operating margin ability of this business, gross Margins, that would be just like just not specific numbers, but just high level, how we should be kind of thinking about this business long term? Thanks.

Speaker 2

Yes. Hey, Randy. Thanks for the question. So here's what I'd say. If you go back to the last few years, We indicated that we gave up roughly around 600 basis points of gross margin rate due to inbound freight.

Speaker 2

This year, we've obviously raised our guidance and we said inbound freight is the majority of that impact. So that would imply there's more to go next year after we as we get into 2024. I think, without I mean, to your point, but without giving specific guidance, I think what we're going to have to do is sort of weigh that against I need to invest both in product in terms of materials, packaging, things like that, as well as back into our SG G and A to help drive future growth. So I think the only thing we've really said is that it is our intention to try to continue to drive operating margins Higher over time, and we think we've got the levers to do that specifically within gross margin.

Speaker 4

Super helpful. And then my last question, maybe more for Matt. Maybe give us your perspective on Where are we in the journey of taking an existing YETI customer like ourselves mostly on this call and building that breadth of product Story with those existing customers versus the continued acquisition Of new customers both domestically and abroad. Can you maybe give us some perspective on where we are in those different journeys and any kind of data That you guys look at to inform you and us on that where we are in those journeys, that'd be super helpful as well. Thanks, guys.

Speaker 1

Good morning, Randy, and thanks for that question. As we've talked about throughout this story, one of the things that's been consistent with how we built The brand and how we built out the product portfolios with this idea of depth and breadth and that applies directly to The product consideration from consumers and we've had great success in continuing to build breadth within our Drinkware business and breadth Our depth is in our Drinkwater business and depth is in our cooler business. But also introducing new product and new consideration, Things like chairs and bags and blankets and dog bowls. And you recently saw a fun deal we did with a limited run around this Cast Iron Skillet. Just to continue to create opportunities for consumers to come back to the YETI brand And bring the same durability performance and design to it.

Speaker 1

We feel like we're still in the early days of that domestically and obviously internationally. We're still building the brand and building out those initial moments of consideration. So we feel great about The umbrella that the brand gives us to expand product, we feel great about the portfolio we have today And the discovery that we're having within that. So we look at geographic penetration, we look at households, we look at geographic penetration Domestically across the regions. And we look at the retention rate we're getting with consumers, particularly from those high acquisition periods in 2020 2021.

Speaker 1

And as we said on the call, we feel great about the balance of acquisition of new customers we're getting and the retention we're getting.

Speaker 5

Great. Helpful. Thanks guys.

Speaker 3

Thank you. We have our next question from Peter Benedict with Baird. Please go ahead.

Speaker 2

Hey, guys. Thank you for taking

Speaker 6

the question. I guess just on the SG and A, maybe back to you, Mike, the growth mid to high teens.

Speaker 5

Can you maybe Tease out

Speaker 7

a little more what the growth investment impacts are this year. I don't know

Speaker 6

if you'd size them for us and how we think about The growth in SG and A beyond this year, is there an opportunity to maybe harvest some of that leverage as you get sales associated These investments, or is it best to think about SG and A maybe holding the line and growing with sales longer term? That's my first question.

Speaker 2

Yes. Hey, Peter, thanks for the question. Here's what I'd say. In Q2, We said the primary drivers were number 1, incentive compensation And number 2, investing and then compounded by the fact that the stock sale obviously increased The impact on our leverage. From a dollar gross perspective, obviously, the incentive compensation had a Pretty big impact in Q2.

Speaker 2

As we think about the year, we've said it's really 4 things. Number 1, Increase in variable expenses and a big piece of that is going to be related to the growth of our Amazon business. 2, incentive comp. And then 3, the investments we're making. In terms of where and how much, we haven't given Too much granular detail on that, but what I'd say is that it's really around headcount, demand creation, technology, etcetera To kind of to drive future growth and that's both in outside the U.

Speaker 2

S. In terms of building out our teams, growing brand awareness And inside the U. S. In terms of building out our teams here to help drive the product roadmap. In terms of where it goes from here, we certainly do not expect to have the Disconnect between the growth in sales and the growth in SG and A going forward.

Speaker 2

It's our intention to try to have SG and A grow more in line with sales. We just look at this year as somewhat of an atypical year given some of the factors that I mentioned. And I do think you'll continue to see increases in variable as we obviously won't expect B2C to grow faster than sales. We'll continue to invest in the business. But this year with the stop sale, it's just the investments that we're making are having a bit of an outsized impact.

Speaker 2

And it was just our intention to continue to invest despite the impact of the recall.

Speaker 6

Okay. That's super helpful. I guess just a follow-up would be maybe to Matt or Mike. Plenty

Speaker 8

of cash

Speaker 6

on the balance sheet here. You're increasing your free cash flow view to $150,000,000 to $200,000,000 this year. Maybe latest comments or thoughts you would have on how to kind of leverage your considerable financial strength

Speaker 2

as we look out over the back half of

Speaker 6

this year and then longer term. Thank you.

Speaker 1

Good morning. Excuse me. Good morning, Peter. I'll take that one. There's We've been consistent in we believe this business can continue to drive strong margins and can continue to be a a strong free cash flow generator.

Speaker 1

As we look forward with our cash position and the cash generation potential, We first and foremost, prioritize investment in the business that we believe sustains The growth potential and the expansion that we're driving both domestically and globally. Secondarily, We'll continue to look at uses of cash that we believe feed and kind of fund the innovation engine. As I mentioned earlier, The brand reach that we have and the brand reach that we continue to build creates opportunity for innovation underneath that halo. And we think there are strategic uses of cash where we can bring innovation into the YETI portfolio And then leverage the incredible marketing and commercial teams that we have to go drive Outside Returns. And so that would be our kind of our primary and our top two focuses would be continuing to invest in the business and find Strategic innovation opportunities or targeted M and A opportunities to leverage the YETI brand and leverage the YETI platform.

Speaker 6

Great. Thanks so much guys. Good luck.

Speaker 3

Thank you. Next in line is Shail Zack Fia with William Blair. Please go ahead.

Speaker 7

Hi, good morning. I was hoping to delve a little bit more to the Drinkware segment. Mean, obviously, growth of 8% is good. I'm wondering though if that's kind of a good barometer of underlying demand right now or if you're continuing to see Any kind of, I guess, impact from retailers still not wanting to have as much inventory on the shelves. Any thought process on underlying demand in that segment will be helpful.

Speaker 7

And then as it relates to international growth in the back half, what are your expectations there?

Speaker 1

Thanks, Sharon. I'll take the Drinkware and Mike can step down on the international. Our Drinkware is and has been, as I mentioned in the prepared remarks for going on a decade, been a really important part of our business. We continue to see that resonate both our product portfolio, our sizes and our colorways resonate with consumers. We mentioned the recent Colorway launch.

Speaker 1

So when we look across the horizon, we feel really good about where our Drinkware Business not only is positioned today, but where it's growing. We have incredible partners in our wholesale partners that have been long standing and they've seen the success Not only of YETI every day, but when we bring innovation and when we bring newness to the market. And that hasn't changed. We're having great conversations With our wholesale partners, we're seeing great acquisition and retention across our B2C channels, in our corporate and B2B business, Continued resonance within Drinkware. So I think we built a sizable business in Drinkware.

Speaker 1

What I'm most pleased with is the continued We're seeing to innovation in the domestic market, but also the reception we're seeing globally. And I think that tying into your Second question remains a significant and out there for us opportunity.

Speaker 2

And Sharon, on the international question, so grew 19% in Q2. That was a bit of step down from Q1, both from a growth as well as a mix perspective. But I think what I'd highlight is A and D and Europe continue to grow really nicely. Canada has been impacted by some of the dynamics that we've talked about in the U. S.

Speaker 2

Regarding the recall, but we expect that To return to growth as we go into the second half. Here's what I'd say. We think that we can continue to increase our international mix Over time, so and as we go into the second half. So I do think that we will see the international business grow faster Then the U. S.

Speaker 2

How much? We don't typically give specific guidance on that other than to say we feel really good about our business outside the U. S. And it has a

Speaker 3

Sharon, does that answer your question?

Speaker 7

Yes. Thank you.

Speaker 3

Thank you. Next in queue is Joe Altobello with Raymond James. Please go ahead.

Speaker 9

Thanks. Hey, guys. Good morning. A big picture question, if I could, but if we put all the noise from this year aside, the recalls, the retail order patterns, etcetera, It does sound like you think YETI is still a double digit sales grower. And so given that, maybe could you give us a little bit more color On how those sales drivers may have changed over the past couple of years?

Speaker 1

Thanks, Joe. I'll take that one. I would say the growth drivers haven't fundamentally Changed in our belief on what's possible, but the importance of them has changed. The domestic market Obviously, it's our largest market. What we continue to see is receptivity across the product portfolio and we called out on the call the strength Of Coolers and Equipment and we specifically call that the strength of hard coolers, that's our longest standing product really our origin story, continue to resonate when we see The success we're having across the domestic regions and the strength from all those, I think that story remains intact.

Speaker 1

Those are also the markets that are hungers for innovation and they're the hungers for expansion and that's the focus of our incredibly talented product development and Supply chain operations teams has continued to drive innovation to our longest standing customers. And then globally, we've talked a lot about The international opportunity for YETI and a few years ago it was a concept and today it's a really meaningful part of the business. And, but still very early in that And that evolution in some of the largest and we think most attractive markets internationally, particularly in the UK and Germany, within the Greater UKEurope. And that those all remain, we believe intact and in front of us. So The execution remains the same, continue to drive the brand heat and growth of the brand, continue to drive innovation underneath that And then execute and build the structure that can support YETI well into future growth.

Speaker 9

Got it. Very helpful. And maybe just to kind of transition over to the margin. You touched on this earlier, but what do you see as the key margin drivers for 2024? Obviously, inbound freight, continued benefits there.

Speaker 9

But could you guys build on the 50% DTC penetration, for example? And what other drivers are there?

Speaker 6

Yes. I

Speaker 2

think Joe, I think you hit on the what I think will be the biggest one in 2024 is Continued benefits from those inbound container rates. We did say also this quarter we expect now to see a benefit on the product cost Stan's product cost side. Where that goes and where some of the other factors we called out in terms of FX and I think we'll have to see where that plays out. But What we said consistently is that we believe there's an opportunity to grow D2C faster than wholesale, which could provide some benefits. On the category side, traditionally drinkers had a higher gross margin than coolers and equipment.

Speaker 2

I think that could be something depending on where those categories grow in relation to each other, we expect to be able to grow both of them. So We'll have to see, but where what the impact from sales mix is, but I think the biggest thing to call out is the benefit will be Continued benefit from inbound container rates.

Speaker 9

Got it. Great. Thank you, guys.

Speaker 3

Thank you. Next in line is Robbie Ohmes with Bank of America ML. Please go ahead.

Speaker 10

Thanks. My first question is for you, Matt. Can you give a little more color? I think you mentioned consumer conservatism, some smaller basket sizes, some change in UPTs. Is that Are you seeing customers trading down or what is conservatism?

Speaker 10

And is it do you think it will last through the back half?

Speaker 1

Good morning, Robbie, and thanks for that. I would say there's a few things going on and we talk about we use terms like it's a dynamic environment and we're seeing We're not seeing consistencies among channels and that remains true. The sum total is we feel Really good about where the brand is. We feel good about where the business is. We feel good about the opportunity in front of us.

Speaker 1

The way it's coming in, I would say, has been More inconsistent than we've seen, soon passes and that causes our team, in particular, our advanced analytics team to dig in deeper and look for themes. Where we're seeing a bit of the conservatism, I would call on those in between buying moments. We're seeing customer counts continue to rise and that's not just in our Retail and in our e commerce business, but also in our corporate sales business. But we're seeing some smaller Kind of units per transaction, which we don't have a direct attribution to why. We're assuming that's a little bit of buying conservatism.

Speaker 1

So they're still coming back. They're still buying. I wouldn't call it a trade down scenario because there's not a trade down play within Within our portfolio and I don't know there's a trade down play against YETI. We said all along that YETI has been a want Demand or once brands since its beginning. It's not we've never lived in a need category.

Speaker 1

I think what's most Promising is that in those natural buying moments, the moms, dads and grads, we're continuing to see the consumer show up. And so our team's Focus is in what I'll call those in between buying moments, which leads to some of our strategy on how we release product, how we kind of launch our marketing campaigns. You just saw the Cosmic Lilac and Camp Green. The reason we put that in July is there was there's not a buying moment, it's in between, some buying moments. And so we thought what a great time to bring out a winning color and put it in the market.

Speaker 1

So that's those are the things that are adjusting our philosophy a little bit. But we think overall, we're seeing the success and the receptivity to innovation. We're seeing success We're just seeing a little bit of different consumer dynamic across our channels.

Speaker 2

Got you. That's helpful.

Speaker 10

And then just a quick one for Michael. For the guidance, I think you said it doesn't include the in the back half doesn't include any further gift card redemptions. Obviously, There's going to be some how are you going to report going forward? Is there are there going to be other Are there going to be similar adjustments to revenues in 3Q and 4Q? Could there be any more recall reserve Increases from here, maybe a

Speaker 6

little help on that.

Speaker 2

Yes. Hey, Rob. So thanks for the question. Here's what I'd say. I think we need to separate the adjustments that we made to our GAAP results from the gift card redemptions.

Speaker 2

So The adjustments that we made in this quarter are essentially updating our assumptions for the entry that we made in Q4 of last year. So we've Seeing some different consumer behavior than we expected slightly. So we've seen people choosing more gift cards as opposed to value in kind Product Remedies. And so we're updating our sales and cost of sales assumptions related to that. We've also seen Logistics costs related to the recall have come in lower than we expected.

Speaker 2

So we're making that adjustment as well. I don't know. We'll see how things play out. But assuming behavior stays The way that it has played out thus far in the recall, this should we're trying to reflect in this reserve adjustment Like what we expect to see for going forward in future into the future in terms of consumer behavior. Now when we talk about the gift card redemptions, what we're talking about is consumers coming back and using that gift card with us for a sale.

Speaker 2

And so we wanted to call that out, because we think it's important for you all to know. It's not an adjustable item given for a number of factors, but we will continue assuming that it is material, we'll continue to call that out in the second half. To your point, we're going to continue to have gift card redemptions, whether it's higher or lower when it happens, we don't really know yet, which is one of the reasons why we didn't call it out or didn't include it in our second half outlook.

Speaker 10

But Just so I understand if I understand the math, there's $12,500,000 of gift cards outstanding At the end of the quarter, right, so going into 3Q. So if those are all redeemed, that would be upside to the revenue guidance?

Speaker 2

Just the $12,500,000 were redemptions that we saw in Q2. As we disclosed in our Hugh, there are roughly $10,000,000 of redemptions that are Have yet to be there are gift cards that are out there that have yet to be redeemed and could be redeemed at some point in the future. Got it. That's 2 different numbers.

Speaker 10

Got it. So $10,000,000 of potential upside to the back half revenues on the redemptions versus guidance?

Speaker 2

Well, it really kind of comes down as to when those are redeemed.

Speaker 5

Got you.

Speaker 10

All right, perfect. Thank you, Michael.

Speaker 9

Welcome.

Speaker 3

Thank you. Next in line is Peter Grom with UBS. Please go ahead.

Speaker 5

Thanks, operator, and good morning, everyone. So maybe just following up on that just quickly, can you maybe give us a sense what you've On the gift card front, quarter to date, you're kind of halfway through 3Q. So have you seen that kind of redemption continue through the 1st 6 7 weeks here in 8 or 3Q?

Speaker 2

We've certainly seen some additional redemptions. We'll have to see where the number lands for the quarter. There's a lot of factors there, but we have certainly seen some additional Redemptions come through.

Speaker 5

Got it. That's really helpful. And then I guess just following up on the gross margin components. I know the expectation was for freight to actually less of a benefit this quarter versus Q1 as you're largely cycling a true up last quarter. That obviously didn't happen.

Speaker 5

So just as we think about the bridge, would you expect freight and product cost improvements to continue to build sequentially from here? And I guess I'm just trying to understand how we should be thinking about the broader phasing of gross margin in 3Q versus 4Q? Thanks.

Speaker 2

Yes. So what I would say is, this quarter, the 2 biggest drivers and we specifically called them out The second thing is we've consistently said that Margins are going to increase. The year over year increase in gross margins is going to go up sequentially as we go through the year and that's Certainly, still our intention as well or what we see for the second half as well. In terms of specific Drivers and how those will play out, we haven't really gotten down to that level of detail other than to say the biggest driver this year will be inbound freight. And now we're comfortable saying that product costs are going to be a benefit for the year.

Speaker 2

There's going to be some quarters where that goes up, down. But for the year, we're very comfortable saying that it will be slightly favorable, which is part of the reason why we're comfortable taking our margins up for

Speaker 1

the year.

Speaker 5

Thanks so much. I'll pass it on.

Speaker 3

Thank you. Next in queue is John Kernan with TD Corbin. Please go ahead.

Speaker 8

Excellent. Thanks for taking my question. So just curious on DTC and how we go into next year and think about the long term contribution margin from DTC. It's now 50% of revenue. Obviously, some of the product recalls have affected mix this year, but just curious on how we should think about CTC, the overall contribution margin and benefit to both the gross margin and the operating margin line going forward.

Speaker 8

Thank you.

Speaker 2

Yes. So, John, thanks for the question. Here's what I'd say. So just to be clear, it was 55% of our mix Q2, roughly the same as in Q1 and we expect the year to end at approximately 60%. I'd come back to without getting into too much detail as to what we expect in 2024, we'll obviously have a lot more to say about that on future calls.

Speaker 2

But it is our intention to try to grow D2C faster than wholesale. We've been clear in the past that D2C has a higher gross margin than wholesale. But once you get down to the operating line, like They're much closer. And so and it really kind of the other thing that to keep in mind is that B2C is a relatively Broad umbrella, there's a number of different sub channels under that that have different overall profitability, e commerce versus stores versus corporate sales versus Amazon. Yes, we do think obviously that as B2C grows faster than wholesale, there's going to be a benefit on the gross margin line, but we need to kind of make sure We balance that with some additional cost that that channel drags as well.

Speaker 8

Got it. Maybe just one follow-up question. Don't mean to beat The gift card redemptions, I can't hear too much, but is there anything from a flow through perspective on the margin line that we should be aware of just on As you potentially recognize more of the gift card redemption going in the back half of the year?

Speaker 1

Well, I mean, I think

Speaker 2

I'm sorry, John, go ahead.

Speaker 8

I was

Speaker 2

going to say, does that

Speaker 6

flow through at a normal Margin level, is

Speaker 8

there anything we should be thinking about in terms of the actual incremental margin from those, redemption?

Speaker 2

Yes. I mean, I think the only thing that I would call out is somewhat connected to your first question is, they're obviously all a D2C sale and specifically an e commerce sale. So they're I would say that they flow through at a gross margin rate that is Yes, slightly higher than our overall average just by the fact that they're an e commerce sale.

Speaker 8

Got it. All right, guys. Thank you.

Speaker 3

Thank you. Next, we have a last question from Sion with BNP Paribas. Please go ahead.

Speaker 7

Hi, guys. Thanks for the question. I think last quarter you mentioned wholesale Expect to

Speaker 1

be down low double digit in 2Q and 3Q. And it sounds like there was just a shift. So the and the wholesale outlook for those two quarters is still the same. I guess, is 3Q expected to be down high teens?

Speaker 7

I know you mentioned down double digits, but maybe a finer point on that.

Speaker 2

Yes. Hey, Dion. So thanks for the question. I think you're right. I mean, we did initially say both would be down low double digits.

Speaker 2

Wholesale obviously performed better. There's a number of different factors driving that, one of which is The earlier launch of fall seasonal in Q3, our camp green and cosmic lilac colors That necessitated us starting to shift those into the wholesale channel in Q2, which was not in our prior outlook. So I view those as Surely just a shift from Q3 into Q2. As you look across the 1st 3 quarters of the year, there's really nothing changed. So I do think what you're asking essentially is wholesale going to be Lower growth in Q3 than our prior outlook, I think the answer is yes.

Speaker 2

And as we said in the script, it will be in the kind of Mid to high double digit range of a decline in Q3. But again, as you think about the 1st 3 quarters of the year Even the full year, nothing's really changed with one more call out. Part of that growth in Q3 is Going back to a very strong comp for wholesale in Q3 of last year as that's really when the wholesale channel caught up on inventory.

Speaker 7

Got it. Very helpful. Maybe just a quick one. Maybe can you just remind Canada how big it is now As a percent of international relative to like Europe?

Speaker 2

Yes. We haven't given that level of detail, other than to say it's Our biggest international region, but we haven't given the specifics Of that country specifically, and just going back to some of the earlier comments, we Canada did grow in Q2 as part of our overall international region, but we expected it did see some of the same impacts In the U.

Speaker 8

S. In terms of

Speaker 2

the recall impact, and we expect that growth to accelerate as we go into the second half.

Speaker 7

Sounds good. Thanks. Thanks guys.

Speaker 3

Thank you. This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Matt for any closing remarks.

Speaker 1

Thank you, operator, and thanks to all for joining us. We look forward speaking later this fall and updating you on the continued growth and progress of YETI.

Speaker 3

Thank you. The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.

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