NYSE:DESP Despegar.com Q2 2023 Earnings Report $19.14 -0.03 (-0.16%) As of 03:59 PM Eastern Earnings HistoryForecast Despegar.com EPS ResultsActual EPS$0.07Consensus EPS $0.05Beat/MissBeat by +$0.02One Year Ago EPSN/ADespegar.com Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$165.52 millionExpected Revenue$160.50 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$5.02 millionYoY Revenue GrowthN/ADespegar.com Announcement DetailsQuarterQ2 2023Date8/17/2023TimeN/AConference Call DateThursday, August 17, 2023Conference Call Time10:00AM ETUpcoming EarningsDespegar.com's Q4 2024 earnings is scheduled for Friday, April 25, 2025, with a conference call scheduled on Thursday, May 1, 2025 at 4:00 PM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Despegar.com Q2 2023 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrAugust 17, 2023 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 6 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good morning, and welcome to Despegar's Second Quarter 2023 Earnings Call. A slide presentation is accompanying today's webcast and is available in the Investors section of the company's website, www.investor. Deskgard.com. There will be an opportunity for you to ask questions via telephone at the end of today's presentation. Please note that you can also submit your questions online at any time during the call by using the Q and A function of the webcast platform. Operator00:00:27Simply type your question in the box and click submit question. This conference call is being recorded. And as a reminder, all participants will be in a listen only mode. Now I'd like to turn the call over to Mr. Luca Pfeiffer, Investor Relations. Operator00:00:44Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:46Good morning, everyone, and thanks for joining us today. In addition to reporting unaudited financial results in accordance with U. S. Generally accepted accounting We discuss certain non GAAP financial measures and operating metrics, including foreign exchange and neutral calculations. Investors should read the definitions of these measures and metrics included in our press release carefully to ensure that they understand them. Speaker 100:01:11Non GAAP financial measures and operating metrics should not be considered in isolation as substitutes for or superior to GAAP financial measures and are provided as a supplemental information opening. Before we begin our prepared remarks, please turn to Slide 2 and allow me to remind you that certain statements made during the course of the discussion may constitute forward looking statements, which are based on management's current expectations and beliefs and are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to materially differ, including factors that may be beyond the company's control. These include, but are not limited to expectations and assumptions related to the integration and performance of the businesses we acquire, including this day, Stace, Yahanet and Coen. For a description of these risks, please refer to our filings with the U. S. Speaker 100:02:03Securities and Exchange Commission and our press release. Speaking on today's call is our CEO, Damian Skokhin, who will provide an overview of Despegar's 2nd quarter performance as well as an update on our strategic initiatives. I will then discuss the quarter's financial results in more detail. After which, Damian will end our prepared remarks and provide an update on our annual guidance. We will then open the call for your questions. Speaker 100:02:31Damian will begin his remarks on Slide 3. Damian, please go ahead. Speaker 200:02:35Thanks, Luca, and good day, everyone. Thank you for joining our results call and for your interest in Despegar. As the quarter's excellent results show, Our strategy to drive earnings power continues gaining traction. In addition to the ongoing recovery in travel demand, Our improving product mix and higher ASPs drove a 23% increase in revenues, which reached yet another quarterly record of $165,000,000 Keep in mind that we achieved these in our seasonally weakest quarter. We also maintained Our cost discipline during the quarter. Speaker 200:03:21OpEx decreased 18 basis points as a percentage of gross bookings when excluding one time impact and was even lower on a reported basis as we benefit from the reversal of the tax provisions that we explained in the morning's earnings release. The quarter's top line growth coupled with our underlying operational leverage drove adjusted EBITDA 71% higher to just over $20,000,000 when excluding one time impact. That's the highest second quarter EBITDA that we generated since the company's IPO. Further, Coin continues progressing well towards the breakeven point, improving $3,900,000 year over year I'm posting only a negative $600,000 of EBITDA in the quarter as our take rate versus expected losses margin continues to expand. With respect to our many strategic initiatives, we are deepening our omni channel strategy by employing Genativ AI and also deploying our successful asset line and tech enabled offline strategy in new markets. Speaker 200:04:39I'll explain both later in our presentation. On this slide, we show the steady progress we have been making across our Core strategic initiatives to improve profitability and further diversify our revenue streams. Starting with revenue diversification, higher margin travel packages continue to grow, reaching 33% of our gross bookings in the 2nd quarter. That's an almost 600 basis points increase versus last year and has been a key component in our non air revenue, reaching 62% of total revenue. And as we continue to grow in Brazil and Mexico, these massive markets now account for 60% of our gross bookings. Speaker 200:05:33Moving to omni channel in the middle of the slide, We continue to effectively leverage our B2B channels in combination with our white label solution to increase our market penetration, generating 15% of our gross bookings in the quarter. Compared to last year's quarter, That was also roughly 600 basis point increase. In addition, we continue to leverage Our technology platform for our app first approach, which helps drive customer growth and loyalty, while also giving us the opportunity to further cross sell additional travel products to our clients. As shown on this slide, our portfolio of branded apps accounted for nearly 38% of our online B2C transactions in the quarter. At the bottom of the slide, We can see how we continue strengthening the customer relationship with our brands. Speaker 200:06:40Today, we have nearly 17,000,000 loyalty program members, while points redemptions doubled over the last year, reaching 8%. Our Net Promoter Score also continues rising as we recover from the impact the pandemic had on customers' travel plans. We are nearing our pre pandemic score, but we don't plan to stop there. The brand loyalty that customer centricity Foster's remain an integral part of our strategy. With that, I will turn the call over to Luca for a more detailed review of our Q2 performance. Speaker 100:07:22Thanks, Damian. My review begins with the first chart on Slide 5. Also behind our record second quarter revenue of $165,000,000 was a take rate that was maintained slightly above the range that we presented during the Investor Day last year. The 12.9% rate in the quarter reflects our disciplined approach and emphasis on profitable growth, particularly in Mexico, Chile and Argentina. Moving to the second chart on the slide, our cost of revenue increased 33% versus last year's quarter, partly due to one time expenses. Speaker 100:07:58When excluding these one offs shown at the right of the chart, Cost of revenue would have increased only 23%, in line with our sales growth. Also, on this basis, our gross profit would have increased 23% to $110,000,000 another record high. Let's turn to Slide 6. As Damian noted, we have maintained our cost discipline, which is driving operating leverage as our revenues continue growing. As the chart on the left indicates, our fixed costs only increased 1% versus last year's quarter to just over $49,000,000 when excluding one time impacts. Speaker 100:08:35This was mostly due to higher technology and product development costs related to expanding our developer team, as well as to FX and inflation. Also keep in mind that $14,300,000 of this amount was the one time benefit that we detailed in the earnings release. The line chart in the middle of the slide illustrates the operating leverage we've been pointing to. As a percentage of revenue, Our G and A costs fell 6 40 basis points, while technology and product development costs ticked up slightly. And when excluding the $14,300,000 onetime impact, G and A decreased 15 percentage points. Speaker 100:09:15Lastly, on costs, our sales and marketing expenses increased 22% year on year. The increase reflects offline investments in Brazil as well as ongoing growth investments, particularly in our B2B and white label channels, which increased third party commission expenses. On a sequential basis, lending and marketing expenses were flat. Let's move to Slide 7. The ongoing recovery in travel demand and our improving revenue mix, combined with our underlying operating leverage continued driving profitability. Speaker 100:09:47Our adjusted EBITDA increased 183 percent to $30,000,000 on an as reported basis, which nets the reversal of the tax provision and the one time Costs incurred under cost of revenues or $9,800,000 The corresponding margin was 18%, our highest since 2018. When excluding the one time reversal and costs, adjusted EBITDA increased 71 percent to 20 point $2,000,000 our highest second quarter EBITDA since the IPO. And on this basis, our margin expanded 3 40 basis points to 12%. Turning to Slide 8. Our profitability also improved with respect to coin, which is nearing the breakeven point. Speaker 100:10:33The $600,000 EBITDA loss in the quarter represents a nearly $4,000,000 year on year improvement. In the chart on the left, you can see that total payment volume was 29% lower than last year's quarter. This is because we have maintained a conservative approach to lending as Brazil's credit market remains challenging. Lastly, as shown in the chart on the right, the spread between Takerate and Coins expected losses Continue to widen, which reflects both our prudent and effective pricing. Back over to Damian, who would like to share our latest strategic initiatives for summarizing the quarter and we begin the Q and A session. Speaker 100:11:12So please turn to Slide 9. Speaker 200:11:15Thanks, Luca. We continually invest in innovation to reinforce our substantial technology mode and to enhance the customer experience. Most recently, that has included the application of generative AI, which we are doing in 3 primary ways. 1st, On the product development front, we are further leveraging test Pega's large customer base by applying machine learning models to customer preferences. During the Q3, we plan to launch a beta version of an AI trip planner to further enhance our product offering and the user experience. Speaker 200:11:52Our developer teams have also been assessing various ways of employing AI to optimize the ultimate code writing. The main objective here is to increase the overall efficiency of our technology teams, where in addition employing AI to customer care in ways that significantly speed the resolution. This helps lower cost to serve and increased customer satisfaction. Let's move to Slide 10. Building on our success in Mexico and in the Andean region, We will deploy our asset light, tech enabled offline model in Brazil and Argentina. Speaker 100:12:30There are Speaker 200:12:302 main objectives here. 1, to further increase our margins and 2, to increase our market penetration of these 2 key geographies. As some of you might recall from our Investor Day, a little over a year ago, offline bookings are roughly 50% of Latin America's travel market. The 2 bar charts in the bottom left of this slide Also show that the Espegar's core segment, the online travel market, will grow at 13% 15% in Brazil and Argentina, respectively. The offline segment in both countries will be growing at a CAGR of 12%. Speaker 200:13:12It's also important to highlight that this is a very profitable market segment as well. On the right of this slide, We outlined the timing, cities and store types under our rollout strategies for Brazil and Argentina. Keep in mind that these mostly asset light retail outlets will bear our market leading brands, the Espegar in Argentina and the Colar in Brazil. Our stores will prioritize providing an exceptional customer experience, where our knowledgeable staff will assist our clients with planning their tailor made holiday travel. Given the size, growth rates and profitability of the offline segment And considering the sizable cash economies within these countries, we expect our doors to enhance our omni channels offering to further strengthen our earnings power. Speaker 200:14:09This strategic initiative is particularly efficient because of the scalability of our technology platform and it will help further consolidate Despegar's market leadership in the region. Let's now turn to Slide 11. I would like to leave everyone with a few key takeaways from our 2nd quarter results. The strong recovery in travel demand that continues across Latin America, particularly in Brazil and Chile, coupled with our still improving revenue mix, yielded record revenues for the quarter. Our cost discipline Has built significant operating leverage, which combined with a strong top line growth led to a $20,200,000 in adjusted EBITDA. Speaker 200:14:59Again, that was the strongest second quarter EBITDA post IPO, even when excluding the one time benefits in the quarter. We're also particularly pleased with the performance of our buy now, pay later business unit, COIN, as it nears the EBITDA breakeven point and is well on its way to become EBITDA accretive towards the end of this year as we outlined at last year's Investor Day. Looking ahead, we expect that recovering travel demand to continue during the seasonally stronger second half of the year. Specifically, we expect revenue and adjusted EBITDA to increase in the mid to high single digits in the 3rd quarter. In addition to reiterating our full year revenue guidance of $640,000,000 to 700,000,000 Adjusted EBITDA between $80,000,000 $100,000,000 We are confident that we can reach The mid to upper end of our guidance range for the year, assuming the demand recovery continues. Speaker 200:16:11In summary, the specar's operational strength combined with a still strong resurgence in travel demand and our focus on improving revenue mix, continue driving our profitable growth trajectory. Our record breaking revenues and consistent delivery of increasing adjusted EBITDA over the past 6 quarters and a testament to the dedication of our team and the strength of our growth strategy and business model. Before taking your questions, we would like to publicly welcome Despegar's new CFO, Amit Singh. Our senior management team looks forward to working with Amit to seize the many profitable growth opportunities that we are pursuing and extend our leadership position in Latin America's growing travel market. With that, Let's open the call for questions. Operator00:17:17And as a reminder, you can also submit your questions online by using the Q and A function of the webcast platform. Your first question comes from the line of Naved Khan with B. Riley Securities. Your line is open. Speaker 300:17:31Yes. Hi. Thanks, Laud, and congrats on the results. Just a couple of questions from me. Maybe First one maybe just on the monthly trends. Speaker 300:17:42Can you maybe just describe how bookings growth looked like during the months of April, May June and how July is trending. And then if I have to look at the take rate On the revenue margin, given that your package mix continues to increase, shouldn't Like a 13% be like a baseline? If I have to think like next year and further from there, Shouldn't that continue to end up with his thoughts? That would be helpful. Thank you. Speaker 200:18:16Hi, Naved. How are you? This is Damian. Thanks for your call. I'll take the first part regarding bookings. Speaker 200:18:27As you saw in the numbers, the trend during the Q4 Q2 were very strong And they were evenly distributed across the 3 months. Keep in mind that the Q2 is our weakest quarter in terms of seasonality. And what we've seen in July and the 1st day of August is a sustained Trend in the same level of slightly higher than during the Q2, not only as a result of vis a vis, seasonality as I mentioned, but also we The market continued to rebounding heavily in all geographies. And as per the take rate, Keep in mind that on our Investor Day last year, Obviously, it seems yesterday, but it was last year. We pointed out to a take rate in between 12% and 12.5%. Speaker 200:19:26We'll so that's the target range in which we should operate longer term. Occasionally, we will deviate from that, but that's not our target. Speaker 300:19:43Got it, got it. And then maybe a quick follow-up, if I may. Speaker 200:19:47Let me just Speaker 300:19:49give us the thoughts High level on the competitive landscape in your core markets like Brazil and Mexico, what are you seeing in terms of competition? Speaker 200:20:01We haven't seen any major change in the trends that we've been Discussing over the last few months, we continue seeing a more rational approach from all players, Domestic local ones, I will say domestic local ones in the different markets will compete, have reduced their investments Mostly that trend has continued. And as per international players, it applies to what I mentioned before regarding being much more rational in marketing Investments and their pricing behavior. Speaker 400:20:37Great. Thank you. Speaker 100:20:39Thanks, Yves. Operator00:20:41The next question is from Andrew Rubin with Morgan Stanley. Your line is open. Speaker 400:20:48Great. Thanks very much for the question and congratulations on the results. I wanted to dig in a bit on transactions. It looks like there were diverging trends between Brazil and So we'd be curious to hear about the differences, whether based on strategy or perhaps market conditions for each country. Thank you. Speaker 200:21:11Yes. Thank you, Andrew, for your question. Two things. We are doing particularly well in Brazil. And given the market situation in Brazil, we decided to invest heavily in Brazil. Speaker 200:21:23That's Also a very key market for us. We saw market discontinuity that justify our investments and we see that trend continue in Q3. In terms of Mexico, 2 things there. First of all, keep in mind that Mexico was the market that rebounded first from Pandemia. So the baseline is much higher than in Brazil. Speaker 200:21:49And within the Quarter and even in July August, we have seen a much stronger acceleration of our bookings in Mexico, 2. So nothing out of the ordinary and strategic decisions to invest in Brazil in particular. Speaker 400:22:14Great. It's very clear. And then just a follow-up, if I may, on coin. I'm Curious what drove the faster path to breakeven and now looking for accretive in the back half? Speaker 200:22:34No. This is a combination of 2 things. We are very pleased with the performance and the prospects of COIN based on being able to obtain higher Margins per transaction, that's a result of our ability to score clients in a much granular, detailed way. So our Trade performance has improved significantly and also we've been very efficient in terms of cost. So we are very well positioned. Speaker 200:23:05For the moment, the Brazilian market in terms of credit Credit performance improves. Speaker 400:23:16Great. Very clear. Thanks again for all the color. Operator00:23:21The next question is from Kevin Kopelman with TD Cowen. Your line is open. Speaker 500:23:27Hi, this is Jacob in for Kevin. Thanks for taking my questions. So B2B is up in the mix versus 22%, 50%, GBV versus 9%. Can you talk about How that is impacting margins for the overall business and where you see growth for B2B going forward? And then maybe could you also touch On where you see growth for the overall business in 2024 as well. Speaker 500:23:50Thank you. Speaker 200:23:53Thank you, Jacob. The B2B is one of the things we are particularly happy about Because the growth performance has been in line with our expectations, but it's a different platform from the ones we had in the past. That's as a result of the integration of BestDay B2B operation into our technological platform. And the growth obviously comes with a lower margin, given that that's the nature of the B2B business. So we expect that to continue growing and gaining share within our portfolio and expanding as we expand it to other geographies. Speaker 200:24:41We are growing particularly fast in Brazil. We are in Argentina in a very intense way in the last quarter of the year. So we are very excited about the prospects and how much it adds to our scale and competitive advantage. In terms of the overall growth perspective, I would again refer you to our Investor Day in which we Set our growth aspirations at 25% year on year, and we reiterate that view at this moment. Speaker 400:25:22We Speaker 200:25:22think that overall, we're on the right path in all key variables of what we said last year on the Investor Day, Both the top line and the operational leverage that we are achieving. Speaker 500:25:38Got it. Thank you. And also a follow-up. So you have loyalty members now that's 17,000,000, so up a few million Q over Q. Are you able to quantify any sort of benefit you're seeing from these numbers related to EBITDA? Speaker 500:25:53Thanks. Speaker 200:25:56We obviously monitor and manage that benefit from all the different impact that the loyalty program of that Sidecast from acquisition costs to increased repeat rates and things like that, but we will not disclose Those at the moment. Speaker 500:26:15Got it. All right. Thanks. Thanks for your time. Operator00:26:21Okay, we will transition to the webcast questions. The first is from Bruno Goldstein asking, Can you please give us more detail on the decrease of the current contingent liabilities on the 2nd quarter? Speaker 100:26:36Absolutely, Bruno. Thanks for your question. This is Hugo Feijter speaking. Just To put it into perspective, the contingent liabilities essentially have increased due to the increase in provisions of legal Claims in the Brazilian market that has been the major impact on that specific line item. And there is a small The remainder that has also been affected by FX variations, but it's marginal. Speaker 100:27:04The biggest impact comes from the adjustments to claims. Operator00:27:12Thank you. And our next webcast question is from Alejandra Aranda asking What should we expect for 2H considering the latest currency softness seen? Speaker 200:27:25Hi, Alejandra. How are you? Thanks very much for your questions. As we stated in our earnings release, Argentina currently represents slightly less than 15% of our bookings. We are exposed on the revenue side and on the cost side. Speaker 200:27:45The revenue side is of that 15%, mostly on the domestic Chulis market, which is 6% of our bookings, is even less than the total exposure to Argentina. And given our cost base that is denominated in peso. We have a natural hedge in between the revenue stream and the cost base. So the impact on the P and L Of any type of Argentine devaluation is close to 0. On the other hand, And in terms of the balance sheet, we split our strategy in 2. Speaker 200:28:23We as we mentioned in several occasions before, We actively hedge our working capital and current balance exposure. So again, no impact whatsoever there. And we explicitly do not hedge our long term assets and liabilities. So if there's a relevant devaluation in Argentina, you will see a non cash, again non cash Accounting impact from the long term assets that we have in Argentina. Those are for your reference, Those are more tax grades that we have with the Argentine authority that are reflected in, obviously, Argentine So those tax credits will be worth less dollars, but again, it's non cash impact. Operator00:29:20Thank you. And we have a follow-up from Alejandra. What should we expect in terms of marketing costs for 2H23? And also could you expand a bit more on recovery trends of domestic versus international travel? Speaker 200:29:34Yes. I will start with the second part, Alex. As I said, we've seen in Q2 and accelerating in Q3 a recovery trend towards pre pandemic levels. But the interesting thing is that when you look at the domestic travel market, it's Fully recovered slightly above pre pandemic levels in passenger terms. When you look at the international, international market is still below the pre pandemic level. Speaker 200:30:10So there There's still room for further growth and recovery on the international markets. As per your question regarding marketing costs, we expect to continue Investing heavily in marketing, but gaining the efficiencies we committed to in the Investor Day. There's a clarification to make here, which when you look at selling and marketing, not marketing stand alone. In selling, some of our channels, the ones we are investing in, for example, B2B, generate additional Cost that go into selling and marketing, that was the commissions, for example, of B2B. So That's a clarification I have to take into account. Speaker 200:31:05The pure marketing, it will be in line with our Investor Day and will So days and will reflect economies and scale and efficiency. We may spending be spending a little bit More on the sales side of it, given the growth of the B2B and some offline growth, That again will be positive in terms of contribution, but the growth will be reflected there too. Operator00:31:36Thank you. Our next webcast question is from Santi Jaratan. It says, Hi, Damian. Can you please talk about your plan to grow in countries like Colombia, Peru, Panama and Costa Rica. What's your perception of the profit pool potential in these geographies? Speaker 200:31:56Hi, Isateo. How are you? Thanks for the question. We have Obviously, aggressive growth plans that are country by country specific of the ones you mentioned, Colombia is particularly relevant to us, even it is the 3rd to 4th country in terms of size, and we believe there's a significant opportunity there. In Peru, again, we have a very strong position, opportunities To grow there, but not as big a market as Colombia, for example. Speaker 200:32:33Costa Rica, less so, I would say. As we mentioned on several occasions before, Latin America is a very different most like of markets that are very peculiar. And our priority markets are Brazil, Mexico in the 1st year and in the 2nd year is Colombia, Chile and Argentina. Operator00:33:02Thank you. Our next question is from Joao Suarez asking, Damian, could you please give an update on how much penetration of B2B do you expect in Brazil, at least some medium short term idea of how this should represent? Speaker 200:33:21Hello. We are not ready to share the specific penetration of business line by Canty, what I can share with you is that Brazil is the market where the B2B is growing the fastest, And we are starting for a very, very small base, and we are positively surprised by the reception of the Brazilian market to our technology platform, which we believe is the best in the market And also our commercial offering there. The results have been very surprising for us in Brazil. That explains in part the big growth we've seen in Brazil. Operator00:34:09Thank you. The next question is from Alex Guarino asking, talk more about the offline strategy. Does Despegar have existing stores in other markets? Are you going to be opening more stores than originally 15 planned? And what is the impact to CapEx? Speaker 100:34:29Alex, thank you very much for your question. I'll take the first part. First of all, yes, we do operate stores in different regions within Latin America. Just for your reference, Under our Viajes Falabella brand, we operate approximately somewhere between 80 to 90 stores in the Indian region And as well under our Best Day brand, we operate around 120, 130 stores, but those stores Our very asset light stores and you should probably think of them more in their majority as sales booth that are actually operating In shopping malls. So we do definitely have experience with regards to operating offline stores. Speaker 100:35:15With regards to our strategy in opening stores in Argentina And Brazil, this is certainly our initial rollout strategy at this point in time. And with regards to CapEx, we're looking at somewhere around $100,000 per store, give or take, right? Operator00:35:43Thank you. We have another question from Bruno Goldstein asking, do you have any updates regarding the preferred shares A, Caterton, any strategy to address this liability in 2025? Speaker 200:35:58Yes. That's a very little liability that will come through in September 2025. We are assessing several options and looking for the most cost efficient to be preparing time for that transition. Operator00:36:21Okay, just one moment for the next question. So the next question is from Alejandra Aranda asking why rollout in Argentina versus Chile or Colombia. Speaker 200:36:39Ale, that has to do with Particular market conditions. As I mentioned before, the conditions of the Asian market, the terms and attractiveness of Offline and online channels vary a lot. Argentina, as you know, has the one of the largest A portion of the GDP is cash driven. And that's a portion of the market that is very hard to capture using online transactions. And you see a flourishing Business of cash transactions that are tourist related in Argentina, for example. Speaker 200:37:22That's one of the reasons that We are looking into that opportunity. Speaker 100:37:27Maybe if I can expand one more variable here, Alea, keep in mind that within Chile and within Colombia, we already do operate our Viajes Falabella offline strategy, right? We do already have an Offline stores in those specific markets that you referenced. Thanks for your question. Operator00:37:48And Alejandra is also asking What should we expect for 2H considering the latest currency softness seen? Speaker 100:38:00Sorry, would you mind repeating the question? Operator00:38:03Certainly. What should we expect to Speaker 200:38:13Hello? Hello. Operator00:38:15Apologies for that. Going back to the question here, what should we expect for 2H considering the latest currency softness seen? Sorry, presenters, are you still there? We're not able to hear you. Speaker 200:38:42No. What I would say is that we reiterate our guidance, both in terms of revenues and EBITDA. Moreover, given the positive trajectory of our performance and the market, we are optimistic we hit the upper Speaker 100:38:58A range Speaker 200:39:01of the 2 variables we provided as guidance. Operator00:39:08Thank you. We have another question from Joao Suarez. How much this impacts your take rate and working capital? Speaker 200:39:19George, just to clarify, are you Referring to the offline stores, when you say how much this impact. If it's the offline stores, we would say that the take rate of offline stores is slightly higher That online and working capital is the same dynamic of the rest of the business. It doesn't change in a major way. Operator00:39:51Thank you. We'll pause for oh, it appears there are no further questions at this time. So I'll turn it back over to Mr. Skulkin for any closing remarks. Speaker 200:40:02Well, as usual, I would like to thank you all for the interest in the company, And we are looking forward to seeing you again when we announce the 3rd quarter results. Thank you very much. Operator00:40:15This concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect.Read morePowered by Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallDespegar.com Q2 202300:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2x Earnings DocumentsSlide DeckPress Release(8-K) Despegar.com Earnings HeadlinesDespegar.com (DESP) Expected to Announce Quarterly Earnings on FridayApril 24 at 1:40 AM | americanbankingnews.comDespegar.com: B2B Expansion, But Caution Due To Investigations In BrazilMarch 27, 2025 | seekingalpha.comTrump Orders 'National Digital Asset Stockpile'‘Digital Asset Reserve’ for THIS Coin??? Get all the details before this story gains even more tractionApril 24, 2025 | Crypto 101 Media (Ad)Despegar.com downgraded to Neutral from Buy at B. 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It sells airline tickets, travel packages, hotel rooms, car rentals, bus and cruise tickets, travel insurance, destination services, and other travel-related products, which enable consumers to find, compare, plan, and purchase travel products through its marketplace. The company also provides a technology platform for its travel suppliers to manage the distribution of their travel products and access to traveler customers. In addition, it offers loan origination services to its travel business' customers and to customers of other merchants in various industries; processing, fraud identification, credit scoring and IT services to travel business, and to third-party merchants; and Koin, an online payment and consumer lending services platform. The company offers travel products and services under the Despegar, Decolar, Best Day, BD Experience, and HotelDo brands. 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There are 6 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good morning, and welcome to Despegar's Second Quarter 2023 Earnings Call. A slide presentation is accompanying today's webcast and is available in the Investors section of the company's website, www.investor. Deskgard.com. There will be an opportunity for you to ask questions via telephone at the end of today's presentation. Please note that you can also submit your questions online at any time during the call by using the Q and A function of the webcast platform. Operator00:00:27Simply type your question in the box and click submit question. This conference call is being recorded. And as a reminder, all participants will be in a listen only mode. Now I'd like to turn the call over to Mr. Luca Pfeiffer, Investor Relations. Operator00:00:44Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:46Good morning, everyone, and thanks for joining us today. In addition to reporting unaudited financial results in accordance with U. S. Generally accepted accounting We discuss certain non GAAP financial measures and operating metrics, including foreign exchange and neutral calculations. Investors should read the definitions of these measures and metrics included in our press release carefully to ensure that they understand them. Speaker 100:01:11Non GAAP financial measures and operating metrics should not be considered in isolation as substitutes for or superior to GAAP financial measures and are provided as a supplemental information opening. Before we begin our prepared remarks, please turn to Slide 2 and allow me to remind you that certain statements made during the course of the discussion may constitute forward looking statements, which are based on management's current expectations and beliefs and are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to materially differ, including factors that may be beyond the company's control. These include, but are not limited to expectations and assumptions related to the integration and performance of the businesses we acquire, including this day, Stace, Yahanet and Coen. For a description of these risks, please refer to our filings with the U. S. Speaker 100:02:03Securities and Exchange Commission and our press release. Speaking on today's call is our CEO, Damian Skokhin, who will provide an overview of Despegar's 2nd quarter performance as well as an update on our strategic initiatives. I will then discuss the quarter's financial results in more detail. After which, Damian will end our prepared remarks and provide an update on our annual guidance. We will then open the call for your questions. Speaker 100:02:31Damian will begin his remarks on Slide 3. Damian, please go ahead. Speaker 200:02:35Thanks, Luca, and good day, everyone. Thank you for joining our results call and for your interest in Despegar. As the quarter's excellent results show, Our strategy to drive earnings power continues gaining traction. In addition to the ongoing recovery in travel demand, Our improving product mix and higher ASPs drove a 23% increase in revenues, which reached yet another quarterly record of $165,000,000 Keep in mind that we achieved these in our seasonally weakest quarter. We also maintained Our cost discipline during the quarter. Speaker 200:03:21OpEx decreased 18 basis points as a percentage of gross bookings when excluding one time impact and was even lower on a reported basis as we benefit from the reversal of the tax provisions that we explained in the morning's earnings release. The quarter's top line growth coupled with our underlying operational leverage drove adjusted EBITDA 71% higher to just over $20,000,000 when excluding one time impact. That's the highest second quarter EBITDA that we generated since the company's IPO. Further, Coin continues progressing well towards the breakeven point, improving $3,900,000 year over year I'm posting only a negative $600,000 of EBITDA in the quarter as our take rate versus expected losses margin continues to expand. With respect to our many strategic initiatives, we are deepening our omni channel strategy by employing Genativ AI and also deploying our successful asset line and tech enabled offline strategy in new markets. Speaker 200:04:39I'll explain both later in our presentation. On this slide, we show the steady progress we have been making across our Core strategic initiatives to improve profitability and further diversify our revenue streams. Starting with revenue diversification, higher margin travel packages continue to grow, reaching 33% of our gross bookings in the 2nd quarter. That's an almost 600 basis points increase versus last year and has been a key component in our non air revenue, reaching 62% of total revenue. And as we continue to grow in Brazil and Mexico, these massive markets now account for 60% of our gross bookings. Speaker 200:05:33Moving to omni channel in the middle of the slide, We continue to effectively leverage our B2B channels in combination with our white label solution to increase our market penetration, generating 15% of our gross bookings in the quarter. Compared to last year's quarter, That was also roughly 600 basis point increase. In addition, we continue to leverage Our technology platform for our app first approach, which helps drive customer growth and loyalty, while also giving us the opportunity to further cross sell additional travel products to our clients. As shown on this slide, our portfolio of branded apps accounted for nearly 38% of our online B2C transactions in the quarter. At the bottom of the slide, We can see how we continue strengthening the customer relationship with our brands. Speaker 200:06:40Today, we have nearly 17,000,000 loyalty program members, while points redemptions doubled over the last year, reaching 8%. Our Net Promoter Score also continues rising as we recover from the impact the pandemic had on customers' travel plans. We are nearing our pre pandemic score, but we don't plan to stop there. The brand loyalty that customer centricity Foster's remain an integral part of our strategy. With that, I will turn the call over to Luca for a more detailed review of our Q2 performance. Speaker 100:07:22Thanks, Damian. My review begins with the first chart on Slide 5. Also behind our record second quarter revenue of $165,000,000 was a take rate that was maintained slightly above the range that we presented during the Investor Day last year. The 12.9% rate in the quarter reflects our disciplined approach and emphasis on profitable growth, particularly in Mexico, Chile and Argentina. Moving to the second chart on the slide, our cost of revenue increased 33% versus last year's quarter, partly due to one time expenses. Speaker 100:07:58When excluding these one offs shown at the right of the chart, Cost of revenue would have increased only 23%, in line with our sales growth. Also, on this basis, our gross profit would have increased 23% to $110,000,000 another record high. Let's turn to Slide 6. As Damian noted, we have maintained our cost discipline, which is driving operating leverage as our revenues continue growing. As the chart on the left indicates, our fixed costs only increased 1% versus last year's quarter to just over $49,000,000 when excluding one time impacts. Speaker 100:08:35This was mostly due to higher technology and product development costs related to expanding our developer team, as well as to FX and inflation. Also keep in mind that $14,300,000 of this amount was the one time benefit that we detailed in the earnings release. The line chart in the middle of the slide illustrates the operating leverage we've been pointing to. As a percentage of revenue, Our G and A costs fell 6 40 basis points, while technology and product development costs ticked up slightly. And when excluding the $14,300,000 onetime impact, G and A decreased 15 percentage points. Speaker 100:09:15Lastly, on costs, our sales and marketing expenses increased 22% year on year. The increase reflects offline investments in Brazil as well as ongoing growth investments, particularly in our B2B and white label channels, which increased third party commission expenses. On a sequential basis, lending and marketing expenses were flat. Let's move to Slide 7. The ongoing recovery in travel demand and our improving revenue mix, combined with our underlying operating leverage continued driving profitability. Speaker 100:09:47Our adjusted EBITDA increased 183 percent to $30,000,000 on an as reported basis, which nets the reversal of the tax provision and the one time Costs incurred under cost of revenues or $9,800,000 The corresponding margin was 18%, our highest since 2018. When excluding the one time reversal and costs, adjusted EBITDA increased 71 percent to 20 point $2,000,000 our highest second quarter EBITDA since the IPO. And on this basis, our margin expanded 3 40 basis points to 12%. Turning to Slide 8. Our profitability also improved with respect to coin, which is nearing the breakeven point. Speaker 100:10:33The $600,000 EBITDA loss in the quarter represents a nearly $4,000,000 year on year improvement. In the chart on the left, you can see that total payment volume was 29% lower than last year's quarter. This is because we have maintained a conservative approach to lending as Brazil's credit market remains challenging. Lastly, as shown in the chart on the right, the spread between Takerate and Coins expected losses Continue to widen, which reflects both our prudent and effective pricing. Back over to Damian, who would like to share our latest strategic initiatives for summarizing the quarter and we begin the Q and A session. Speaker 100:11:12So please turn to Slide 9. Speaker 200:11:15Thanks, Luca. We continually invest in innovation to reinforce our substantial technology mode and to enhance the customer experience. Most recently, that has included the application of generative AI, which we are doing in 3 primary ways. 1st, On the product development front, we are further leveraging test Pega's large customer base by applying machine learning models to customer preferences. During the Q3, we plan to launch a beta version of an AI trip planner to further enhance our product offering and the user experience. Speaker 200:11:52Our developer teams have also been assessing various ways of employing AI to optimize the ultimate code writing. The main objective here is to increase the overall efficiency of our technology teams, where in addition employing AI to customer care in ways that significantly speed the resolution. This helps lower cost to serve and increased customer satisfaction. Let's move to Slide 10. Building on our success in Mexico and in the Andean region, We will deploy our asset light, tech enabled offline model in Brazil and Argentina. Speaker 100:12:30There are Speaker 200:12:302 main objectives here. 1, to further increase our margins and 2, to increase our market penetration of these 2 key geographies. As some of you might recall from our Investor Day, a little over a year ago, offline bookings are roughly 50% of Latin America's travel market. The 2 bar charts in the bottom left of this slide Also show that the Espegar's core segment, the online travel market, will grow at 13% 15% in Brazil and Argentina, respectively. The offline segment in both countries will be growing at a CAGR of 12%. Speaker 200:13:12It's also important to highlight that this is a very profitable market segment as well. On the right of this slide, We outlined the timing, cities and store types under our rollout strategies for Brazil and Argentina. Keep in mind that these mostly asset light retail outlets will bear our market leading brands, the Espegar in Argentina and the Colar in Brazil. Our stores will prioritize providing an exceptional customer experience, where our knowledgeable staff will assist our clients with planning their tailor made holiday travel. Given the size, growth rates and profitability of the offline segment And considering the sizable cash economies within these countries, we expect our doors to enhance our omni channels offering to further strengthen our earnings power. Speaker 200:14:09This strategic initiative is particularly efficient because of the scalability of our technology platform and it will help further consolidate Despegar's market leadership in the region. Let's now turn to Slide 11. I would like to leave everyone with a few key takeaways from our 2nd quarter results. The strong recovery in travel demand that continues across Latin America, particularly in Brazil and Chile, coupled with our still improving revenue mix, yielded record revenues for the quarter. Our cost discipline Has built significant operating leverage, which combined with a strong top line growth led to a $20,200,000 in adjusted EBITDA. Speaker 200:14:59Again, that was the strongest second quarter EBITDA post IPO, even when excluding the one time benefits in the quarter. We're also particularly pleased with the performance of our buy now, pay later business unit, COIN, as it nears the EBITDA breakeven point and is well on its way to become EBITDA accretive towards the end of this year as we outlined at last year's Investor Day. Looking ahead, we expect that recovering travel demand to continue during the seasonally stronger second half of the year. Specifically, we expect revenue and adjusted EBITDA to increase in the mid to high single digits in the 3rd quarter. In addition to reiterating our full year revenue guidance of $640,000,000 to 700,000,000 Adjusted EBITDA between $80,000,000 $100,000,000 We are confident that we can reach The mid to upper end of our guidance range for the year, assuming the demand recovery continues. Speaker 200:16:11In summary, the specar's operational strength combined with a still strong resurgence in travel demand and our focus on improving revenue mix, continue driving our profitable growth trajectory. Our record breaking revenues and consistent delivery of increasing adjusted EBITDA over the past 6 quarters and a testament to the dedication of our team and the strength of our growth strategy and business model. Before taking your questions, we would like to publicly welcome Despegar's new CFO, Amit Singh. Our senior management team looks forward to working with Amit to seize the many profitable growth opportunities that we are pursuing and extend our leadership position in Latin America's growing travel market. With that, Let's open the call for questions. Operator00:17:17And as a reminder, you can also submit your questions online by using the Q and A function of the webcast platform. Your first question comes from the line of Naved Khan with B. Riley Securities. Your line is open. Speaker 300:17:31Yes. Hi. Thanks, Laud, and congrats on the results. Just a couple of questions from me. Maybe First one maybe just on the monthly trends. Speaker 300:17:42Can you maybe just describe how bookings growth looked like during the months of April, May June and how July is trending. And then if I have to look at the take rate On the revenue margin, given that your package mix continues to increase, shouldn't Like a 13% be like a baseline? If I have to think like next year and further from there, Shouldn't that continue to end up with his thoughts? That would be helpful. Thank you. Speaker 200:18:16Hi, Naved. How are you? This is Damian. Thanks for your call. I'll take the first part regarding bookings. Speaker 200:18:27As you saw in the numbers, the trend during the Q4 Q2 were very strong And they were evenly distributed across the 3 months. Keep in mind that the Q2 is our weakest quarter in terms of seasonality. And what we've seen in July and the 1st day of August is a sustained Trend in the same level of slightly higher than during the Q2, not only as a result of vis a vis, seasonality as I mentioned, but also we The market continued to rebounding heavily in all geographies. And as per the take rate, Keep in mind that on our Investor Day last year, Obviously, it seems yesterday, but it was last year. We pointed out to a take rate in between 12% and 12.5%. Speaker 200:19:26We'll so that's the target range in which we should operate longer term. Occasionally, we will deviate from that, but that's not our target. Speaker 300:19:43Got it, got it. And then maybe a quick follow-up, if I may. Speaker 200:19:47Let me just Speaker 300:19:49give us the thoughts High level on the competitive landscape in your core markets like Brazil and Mexico, what are you seeing in terms of competition? Speaker 200:20:01We haven't seen any major change in the trends that we've been Discussing over the last few months, we continue seeing a more rational approach from all players, Domestic local ones, I will say domestic local ones in the different markets will compete, have reduced their investments Mostly that trend has continued. And as per international players, it applies to what I mentioned before regarding being much more rational in marketing Investments and their pricing behavior. Speaker 400:20:37Great. Thank you. Speaker 100:20:39Thanks, Yves. Operator00:20:41The next question is from Andrew Rubin with Morgan Stanley. Your line is open. Speaker 400:20:48Great. Thanks very much for the question and congratulations on the results. I wanted to dig in a bit on transactions. It looks like there were diverging trends between Brazil and So we'd be curious to hear about the differences, whether based on strategy or perhaps market conditions for each country. Thank you. Speaker 200:21:11Yes. Thank you, Andrew, for your question. Two things. We are doing particularly well in Brazil. And given the market situation in Brazil, we decided to invest heavily in Brazil. Speaker 200:21:23That's Also a very key market for us. We saw market discontinuity that justify our investments and we see that trend continue in Q3. In terms of Mexico, 2 things there. First of all, keep in mind that Mexico was the market that rebounded first from Pandemia. So the baseline is much higher than in Brazil. Speaker 200:21:49And within the Quarter and even in July August, we have seen a much stronger acceleration of our bookings in Mexico, 2. So nothing out of the ordinary and strategic decisions to invest in Brazil in particular. Speaker 400:22:14Great. It's very clear. And then just a follow-up, if I may, on coin. I'm Curious what drove the faster path to breakeven and now looking for accretive in the back half? Speaker 200:22:34No. This is a combination of 2 things. We are very pleased with the performance and the prospects of COIN based on being able to obtain higher Margins per transaction, that's a result of our ability to score clients in a much granular, detailed way. So our Trade performance has improved significantly and also we've been very efficient in terms of cost. So we are very well positioned. Speaker 200:23:05For the moment, the Brazilian market in terms of credit Credit performance improves. Speaker 400:23:16Great. Very clear. Thanks again for all the color. Operator00:23:21The next question is from Kevin Kopelman with TD Cowen. Your line is open. Speaker 500:23:27Hi, this is Jacob in for Kevin. Thanks for taking my questions. So B2B is up in the mix versus 22%, 50%, GBV versus 9%. Can you talk about How that is impacting margins for the overall business and where you see growth for B2B going forward? And then maybe could you also touch On where you see growth for the overall business in 2024 as well. Speaker 500:23:50Thank you. Speaker 200:23:53Thank you, Jacob. The B2B is one of the things we are particularly happy about Because the growth performance has been in line with our expectations, but it's a different platform from the ones we had in the past. That's as a result of the integration of BestDay B2B operation into our technological platform. And the growth obviously comes with a lower margin, given that that's the nature of the B2B business. So we expect that to continue growing and gaining share within our portfolio and expanding as we expand it to other geographies. Speaker 200:24:41We are growing particularly fast in Brazil. We are in Argentina in a very intense way in the last quarter of the year. So we are very excited about the prospects and how much it adds to our scale and competitive advantage. In terms of the overall growth perspective, I would again refer you to our Investor Day in which we Set our growth aspirations at 25% year on year, and we reiterate that view at this moment. Speaker 400:25:22We Speaker 200:25:22think that overall, we're on the right path in all key variables of what we said last year on the Investor Day, Both the top line and the operational leverage that we are achieving. Speaker 500:25:38Got it. Thank you. And also a follow-up. So you have loyalty members now that's 17,000,000, so up a few million Q over Q. Are you able to quantify any sort of benefit you're seeing from these numbers related to EBITDA? Speaker 500:25:53Thanks. Speaker 200:25:56We obviously monitor and manage that benefit from all the different impact that the loyalty program of that Sidecast from acquisition costs to increased repeat rates and things like that, but we will not disclose Those at the moment. Speaker 500:26:15Got it. All right. Thanks. Thanks for your time. Operator00:26:21Okay, we will transition to the webcast questions. The first is from Bruno Goldstein asking, Can you please give us more detail on the decrease of the current contingent liabilities on the 2nd quarter? Speaker 100:26:36Absolutely, Bruno. Thanks for your question. This is Hugo Feijter speaking. Just To put it into perspective, the contingent liabilities essentially have increased due to the increase in provisions of legal Claims in the Brazilian market that has been the major impact on that specific line item. And there is a small The remainder that has also been affected by FX variations, but it's marginal. Speaker 100:27:04The biggest impact comes from the adjustments to claims. Operator00:27:12Thank you. And our next webcast question is from Alejandra Aranda asking What should we expect for 2H considering the latest currency softness seen? Speaker 200:27:25Hi, Alejandra. How are you? Thanks very much for your questions. As we stated in our earnings release, Argentina currently represents slightly less than 15% of our bookings. We are exposed on the revenue side and on the cost side. Speaker 200:27:45The revenue side is of that 15%, mostly on the domestic Chulis market, which is 6% of our bookings, is even less than the total exposure to Argentina. And given our cost base that is denominated in peso. We have a natural hedge in between the revenue stream and the cost base. So the impact on the P and L Of any type of Argentine devaluation is close to 0. On the other hand, And in terms of the balance sheet, we split our strategy in 2. Speaker 200:28:23We as we mentioned in several occasions before, We actively hedge our working capital and current balance exposure. So again, no impact whatsoever there. And we explicitly do not hedge our long term assets and liabilities. So if there's a relevant devaluation in Argentina, you will see a non cash, again non cash Accounting impact from the long term assets that we have in Argentina. Those are for your reference, Those are more tax grades that we have with the Argentine authority that are reflected in, obviously, Argentine So those tax credits will be worth less dollars, but again, it's non cash impact. Operator00:29:20Thank you. And we have a follow-up from Alejandra. What should we expect in terms of marketing costs for 2H23? And also could you expand a bit more on recovery trends of domestic versus international travel? Speaker 200:29:34Yes. I will start with the second part, Alex. As I said, we've seen in Q2 and accelerating in Q3 a recovery trend towards pre pandemic levels. But the interesting thing is that when you look at the domestic travel market, it's Fully recovered slightly above pre pandemic levels in passenger terms. When you look at the international, international market is still below the pre pandemic level. Speaker 200:30:10So there There's still room for further growth and recovery on the international markets. As per your question regarding marketing costs, we expect to continue Investing heavily in marketing, but gaining the efficiencies we committed to in the Investor Day. There's a clarification to make here, which when you look at selling and marketing, not marketing stand alone. In selling, some of our channels, the ones we are investing in, for example, B2B, generate additional Cost that go into selling and marketing, that was the commissions, for example, of B2B. So That's a clarification I have to take into account. Speaker 200:31:05The pure marketing, it will be in line with our Investor Day and will So days and will reflect economies and scale and efficiency. We may spending be spending a little bit More on the sales side of it, given the growth of the B2B and some offline growth, That again will be positive in terms of contribution, but the growth will be reflected there too. Operator00:31:36Thank you. Our next webcast question is from Santi Jaratan. It says, Hi, Damian. Can you please talk about your plan to grow in countries like Colombia, Peru, Panama and Costa Rica. What's your perception of the profit pool potential in these geographies? Speaker 200:31:56Hi, Isateo. How are you? Thanks for the question. We have Obviously, aggressive growth plans that are country by country specific of the ones you mentioned, Colombia is particularly relevant to us, even it is the 3rd to 4th country in terms of size, and we believe there's a significant opportunity there. In Peru, again, we have a very strong position, opportunities To grow there, but not as big a market as Colombia, for example. Speaker 200:32:33Costa Rica, less so, I would say. As we mentioned on several occasions before, Latin America is a very different most like of markets that are very peculiar. And our priority markets are Brazil, Mexico in the 1st year and in the 2nd year is Colombia, Chile and Argentina. Operator00:33:02Thank you. Our next question is from Joao Suarez asking, Damian, could you please give an update on how much penetration of B2B do you expect in Brazil, at least some medium short term idea of how this should represent? Speaker 200:33:21Hello. We are not ready to share the specific penetration of business line by Canty, what I can share with you is that Brazil is the market where the B2B is growing the fastest, And we are starting for a very, very small base, and we are positively surprised by the reception of the Brazilian market to our technology platform, which we believe is the best in the market And also our commercial offering there. The results have been very surprising for us in Brazil. That explains in part the big growth we've seen in Brazil. Operator00:34:09Thank you. The next question is from Alex Guarino asking, talk more about the offline strategy. Does Despegar have existing stores in other markets? Are you going to be opening more stores than originally 15 planned? And what is the impact to CapEx? Speaker 100:34:29Alex, thank you very much for your question. I'll take the first part. First of all, yes, we do operate stores in different regions within Latin America. Just for your reference, Under our Viajes Falabella brand, we operate approximately somewhere between 80 to 90 stores in the Indian region And as well under our Best Day brand, we operate around 120, 130 stores, but those stores Our very asset light stores and you should probably think of them more in their majority as sales booth that are actually operating In shopping malls. So we do definitely have experience with regards to operating offline stores. Speaker 100:35:15With regards to our strategy in opening stores in Argentina And Brazil, this is certainly our initial rollout strategy at this point in time. And with regards to CapEx, we're looking at somewhere around $100,000 per store, give or take, right? Operator00:35:43Thank you. We have another question from Bruno Goldstein asking, do you have any updates regarding the preferred shares A, Caterton, any strategy to address this liability in 2025? Speaker 200:35:58Yes. That's a very little liability that will come through in September 2025. We are assessing several options and looking for the most cost efficient to be preparing time for that transition. Operator00:36:21Okay, just one moment for the next question. So the next question is from Alejandra Aranda asking why rollout in Argentina versus Chile or Colombia. Speaker 200:36:39Ale, that has to do with Particular market conditions. As I mentioned before, the conditions of the Asian market, the terms and attractiveness of Offline and online channels vary a lot. Argentina, as you know, has the one of the largest A portion of the GDP is cash driven. And that's a portion of the market that is very hard to capture using online transactions. And you see a flourishing Business of cash transactions that are tourist related in Argentina, for example. Speaker 200:37:22That's one of the reasons that We are looking into that opportunity. Speaker 100:37:27Maybe if I can expand one more variable here, Alea, keep in mind that within Chile and within Colombia, we already do operate our Viajes Falabella offline strategy, right? We do already have an Offline stores in those specific markets that you referenced. Thanks for your question. Operator00:37:48And Alejandra is also asking What should we expect for 2H considering the latest currency softness seen? Speaker 100:38:00Sorry, would you mind repeating the question? Operator00:38:03Certainly. What should we expect to Speaker 200:38:13Hello? Hello. Operator00:38:15Apologies for that. Going back to the question here, what should we expect for 2H considering the latest currency softness seen? Sorry, presenters, are you still there? We're not able to hear you. Speaker 200:38:42No. What I would say is that we reiterate our guidance, both in terms of revenues and EBITDA. Moreover, given the positive trajectory of our performance and the market, we are optimistic we hit the upper Speaker 100:38:58A range Speaker 200:39:01of the 2 variables we provided as guidance. Operator00:39:08Thank you. We have another question from Joao Suarez. How much this impacts your take rate and working capital? Speaker 200:39:19George, just to clarify, are you Referring to the offline stores, when you say how much this impact. If it's the offline stores, we would say that the take rate of offline stores is slightly higher That online and working capital is the same dynamic of the rest of the business. It doesn't change in a major way. Operator00:39:51Thank you. We'll pause for oh, it appears there are no further questions at this time. So I'll turn it back over to Mr. Skulkin for any closing remarks. Speaker 200:40:02Well, as usual, I would like to thank you all for the interest in the company, And we are looking forward to seeing you again when we announce the 3rd quarter results. Thank you very much. Operator00:40:15This concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect.Read morePowered by