NASDAQ:ROST Ross Stores Q2 2024 Earnings Report $139.63 +0.95 (+0.69%) Closing price 04/17/2025 04:00 PM EasternExtended Trading$139.24 -0.39 (-0.28%) As of 04/17/2025 05:59 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. Earnings HistoryForecast Ross Stores EPS ResultsActual EPS$1.32Consensus EPS $1.16Beat/MissBeat by +$0.16One Year Ago EPS$1.11Ross Stores Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$4.93 billionExpected Revenue$4.75 billionBeat/MissBeat by +$185.62 millionYoY Revenue Growth+7.70%Ross Stores Announcement DetailsQuarterQ2 2024Date8/17/2023TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateThursday, August 17, 2023Conference Call Time4:15PM ETUpcoming EarningsRoss Stores' Q1 2026 earnings is scheduled for Thursday, May 22, 2025, with a conference call scheduled at 4:15 PM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptPress Release (8-K)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfilePowered by Ross Stores Q2 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrAugust 17, 2023 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 15 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Afternoon, and welcome to the Ross Stores Second Quarter 2023 Earnings Release Conference Call. The call will begin with prepared comments by management followed by a question and answer session. Before we get started, on behalf of Ross Stores, I would like to note The comments made on this call will contain forward looking statements regarding expectations about future growth and financial results, including sales and earnings forecasts, new store openings and other matters that are based on the company's current forecast of aspects of its future business. These forward looking statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from historical performance or current expectations. Risk factors are included in today's press release in the company's fiscal 2022 Form 10 ks and fiscal 2023 Form 10 Q and 8ks on file with the SEC. Operator00:00:53And now, I would like to turn the call over to Barbara Rentler, Chief Executive Officer. Speaker 100:00:59Good afternoon. Joining me on our call today are Michael Horshron, Group President and Chief Operating Officer Adam Orbos, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer and Connie Cao, Group Vice President, Investor Relations. We'll begin our call today with a review of our Q2 2023 performance, followed by our updated outlook for the second half and fiscal year. Afterwards, we'll be happy to respond to any questions you may have. As noted in today's press release, we are pleased with our 2nd quarter results with both sales and earnings well above our expectations. Speaker 100:01:35Along with easing inflationary pressures, customers responded well to our improved value offerings throughout our stores. Total sales for the period were $4,900,000,000 up from $4,600,000,000 last year, while comparable store sales rose 5%. Earnings per share for the 13 weeks ended July 29, 2023 were $1.32 on net income of $446,000,000 These results compared to $1.11 per share on net earnings of $385,000,000 in the prior year's Q2. For the 1st 6 months, earnings per share were $2.41 on net income of $818,000,000 These results compared to earnings per share of 2.08 on net earnings of $723,000,000 in first half of twenty twenty two. Sales for 2023 year to date period were $9,400,000,000 with comparable sales up 3% versus a 7% decline in the first half of last year. Speaker 100:02:51Cosmetics and accessories were the strongest merchandise areas during the quarter, Performance across geographic areas was broad based. Similar to Ross, dd's discount performance also improved due to better merchandise Assortment and the aforementioned moderating inflation. At quarter end, total consolidated inventories were down 15% versus last year, while average store inventories were up 4%. Takeaway merchandise represented 38% of total inventories versus 41% in the same period of the prior year. Turning to store growth, we opened 18 new Ross and 9 dd's discount locations in the Q2. Speaker 100:03:36We remain on track to open a total of approximately 100 locations this year, comprised of about 75 ROTH and 25 DDs. As usual, these numbers do not reflect our plans Close or relocate about 10 stores. Now Adam will provide further details on our 2nd quarter results and additional color on our updated outlook for the remainder of fiscal 2023. Speaker 200:04:02Thank you, Barbara. As previously mentioned, our comparable store sales were up 5% for the quarter driven by higher traffic. 2nd quarter operating margin was flat compared to last year at 11.3%. Cost of Goods sold during the period improved by 185 basis points. Merchandise margin increased 200 basis points primarily due to lower ocean freight costs. Speaker 200:04:29Domestic freight declined 60 basis points, while occupancy and distribution cost improved by 20 and 5 basis points respectively. Partially offsetting these benefits were buying expenses that delevered by 100 basis points mainly due to higher incentives. SG and A for the period increased 180 basis points as higher incentive costs and store wages more than offset the leverage from higher sales. During the Q2, we repurchased 2,200,000 shares of common stock for an aggregate cost of $230,000,000 We remain on track to buy back a total of $950,000,000 in stock for the year. Now let's discuss our outlook for the remainder of 2023. Speaker 200:05:22As Barbara noted in today's press release, Despite the recent moderation in inflation, our low to moderate income customer continues to face persistently higher costs on necessities. As a result, we believe it is prudent to continue to plan the business cautiously. However, given our improved second quarter performance, We are raising our second half sales and earnings outlook. We are now planning comparable store sales for the 3rd and 4th quarters of 2023 to be up 2% to 3% and 1% to 2% respectively. As noted in our press release, If the second half performs in line with these updated sales assumptions, earnings per share for the Q3 is projected to be 1 $0.16 to $1.21 versus $1 last year and $1.58 to $1.64 for the 4th quarter compared to $1.31 in 2022. Speaker 200:06:24Based on our first half results and second half guidance, Earnings per share for fiscal year 2023 are now planned to be in the range of $5.15 to $5.26 versus $4.38 last year. Incorporated in this updated guidance range is an estimated benefit to earnings per share of approximately $0.16 from the 53rd week in fiscal 2023. Now let's turn to our guidance assumptions for the Q3 of 2023. Total sales are forecast to increase 4% percent versus the prior year. We expect to open 51 stores during the quarter, including 43 Ross and 8 DDs locations. Speaker 200:07:14Operating margin for the 3rd quarter is planned to be in the 10.3% to 10.5% range versus 9.8% in 2022 as the benefit from lower ocean and domestic freight costs more than offsets an increase in other expenses, primarily related to incentive compensation and store wages. Net interest income is estimated to be approximately $34,000,000 versus $2,800,000 last year as we continue to benefit from higher interest rates on our cash balance. The tax rate is projected to be about 25% and diluted shares outstanding are expected to be approximately 3 Now I will turn the call over to Barbara for closing comments. Speaker 100:08:04Thank you, Adam. While we are pleased with our above plan results in the Q2, the macroeconomic, geopolitical and retail environments remain uncertain. Moving forward, we remain keenly focused on delivering the most compelling bargains possible as our customer is more motivated than ever to seek the best branded value as prolonged inflation remains an issue. We will also carefully manage our expenses and inventory to maximize our potential for both sales and earnings growth. Longer term, we believe the rigorous execution of our off price business model will allow us to consistently deliver solid results. Speaker 100:08:43At this point, we'd like to open up the call and respond to any questions you may have. Operator00:08:48Thank you. We will now be conducting a question and answer session. Speaker 300:09:24So Barbara, could you just elaborate on the improved value offerings that you cited in the release and Just proactive assortment changes that you've made in stores that you think are contributing to the improved performance. If any way to speak The trends that you're seeing with traffic versus basket as the Q2 progressed and into August that would be really helpful. Speaker 400:09:48Matthew, let me start on overall trends. For the quarter, on sequential trends, we wouldn't provide specifics, I would say comps were relatively strong across the quarter both on a single year comp basis and a multi year basis. On the components as we said in the commentary traffic was the primary driver Of the 5% comp, that was true for both chains. Average basket was flat With an increase slight increase in the units per transaction and a lower AUR Which offset the units per transaction. Speaker 100:10:35And then Matt, in terms of the improved value offerings, as we said before, We are really striving to offer better branded value partners for the customer. I mean, our customer is a low to moderate income customer And the merchants have been out there really chasing the business, buying closeouts, really looking for compelling values and bargains. And that's across all areas in the company. It's not just one particular area, it's everywhere because that's really what the customers are responding to And because of the amount of availability of the market, we've been able to do that. Speaker 300:11:14Great. And then just as a follow-up, could you Expand on gross margin for the balance of this year, meaning how best to think about the opportunity to recapture markdown headwinds That we saw a year ago as the year progresses within merchandise margin. And then just multi year, are there any structural impediments To returning to pre pandemic operating margin levels, which I think were in the mid-13s? Speaker 200:11:39Yes. I'll take the first piece. Matt, this is Adam. Thanks for the question. 3rd quarter from an operating margin standpoint, the components will look similar to 2nd quarter. Speaker 200:11:48So ocean freight It was a significant tailwind for us and will continue in Q3. But I'll remind you that in 4th Quarter last year, we started to see the benefits of ocean freight, so it will moderate considerably in Q4. But again, 3rd quarter versus second quarter, it should be comparable on that standpoint. From a domestic freight standpoint, Again, we commented in the call on 60 basis points of good news. Assuming fuel costs stay the same, Would expect that to continue through the balance of 2023. Speaker 200:12:26Other big movers, we've commented a lot about We knew that would be a headwind coming into the year as we outperformed this year and go up against an underperforming 2022. So that was a big moving part and that'll continue into Q3 and Q4, but would also comment the way We've flowed incentive cost last year. 2nd quarter was the most impactful quarter. So it'll still be a significant headwind, but in Q3 and Q4, but not as significant as Q2. Speaker 400:13:01Matthew, on the long term Growth algorithm, we still believe we can achieve gradual improvement in profitability over time. In general, EBIT growth though will be highly dependent on sustained strong sales growth And certainly how the macroeconomic and geopolitical factors including inflation may continue to unfold. To achieve this, obviously, strengthening our price value offerings across our entire assortment is going to be key to that success. I'd say outside top line, we continue to believe there are opportunities throughout the P and L that can help drive comp growth and EBIT margin expansion over time. Speaker 200:13:51And I think you also asked Markdown, so we didn't answer that question. So given the elevated levels last fall, Should expect some benefit as we move through the second half, obviously, assuming we deliver our sales expectations. Speaker 300:14:08Great color. Congrats again. Thanks. Operator00:14:13And the next question comes from the line of Lorraine Hutchinson with Bank of America. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 500:14:19Thank you. Good afternoon. I wanted to focus on SG and A for a minute, understanding this year there's a rebuild of incentive comp. How are you thinking about that line item over the longer term? And what comp would you expect to leverage SG and A in the out years? Speaker 200:14:37Yes. Hi, Lorraine. This is Adam. So SG and A, we knew would be pressured due to incentive costs coming into this year and it Clearly was, but most of our SG and A deleverage in the second quarter was driven by incentive cost, although higher store wages played Part in that also. I think your kind of longer term leverage question, 4% comp is where we think we Clearly lever and SG and A and that fundamentally hasn't changed for us. Speaker 500:15:11Thank you. And then any change to your outlook on wage pressures either for this year or for the coming years? Speaker 400:15:19Sure, Lorraine. Generally speaking, wages in our stores and DCs are relatively Stable, so there was no change to the outlook for 2023. We continue To take a market by market approach to staffing and we do adjust wages where appropriate in individual markets. Say longer term, I think it's going to be dependent on the statutory environment. That's really what's driven our wage growth over the last few years. Speaker 500:15:52Thank you. Operator00:15:56Ladies and gentlemen, as a reminder, we ask Thank you. And the next question comes from the line of Mark Altschwager with Baird. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 600:16:08Thank you. Good afternoon. Great quarter. Back to the top line for a moment. Just with the positive inflection you're seeing in comps, What's your level of confidence that the business can return to a 3%, 3% plus next year? Speaker 600:16:22And Bigger picture, do you think you've hit the point where the value is resonating in a way that it can trump the inflationary pressure Your consumer is feeling elsewhere. I guess, asked another way, tough times is when we would think more customers would need ROS And the trade down can drive the top line. Do you think that's where we are today? Thank you. Speaker 400:16:47Here's how I'd answer that. Generally speaking, we can control what we can control. We know that we made some progress improving our assortments During the Q2, we also know there's we can make significantly more improvements. And With that, I think that gives us confidence or that we can continue to grow comp. Longer term, When we start talking about next year, I think we'll be in a better position to see what the outlook is when we give our Earnings guidance early next year. Speaker 400:17:21So we'll continue to monitor the economy. It still remains very uncertain and We'll do what we can to offer the customer the best possible value possible in this environment, which is very important to our Speaker 100:17:36I think the other piece Mark is that, if we continue to improve on our value offerings, we really think that that's the way to gain share across All customer income demographics. So if we do a good, better, best strategy and we have incredible values, We have more of an opportunity to gain more customers. Speaker 600:17:58Thank you. Speaker 500:18:44And our next question comes from the line of Chuck Grom with Gordon Haskett. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 600:18:52Can you guys hear me? Speaker 200:18:54We can. We can. Speaker 600:18:55Okay. Okay. Now the call went dead. Thanks. Great quarter. Speaker 600:18:59I wanted to see if you guys could talk about the home category a little bit. You called out cosmetics and accessories being areas of strength. Your largest The other day talked about home being strong and I was wondering if you could talk about that and also tie in what's happened with Bebeth. Speaker 100:19:16I'm sorry, I didn't catch the last piece. You said with? Speaker 600:19:19If you could just tie in any benefit you think you saw in the quarter and could expect to see in the coming quarters from Bed Bath and Beyond. Speaker 100:19:25Paul from Bebez Neha. Okay, sorry. Home also performed above the chain average. And We feel that there's a lot of growth still left in home for us, pretty broad based across the board. In terms of Bed Bath and Beyond, Two thoughts. Speaker 100:19:43One is that they lost a lot of volume prior to this even happening. And the classifications that they carried Where we have overlap, I think over time we could pick up more volume perhaps, but I think that's very hard to measure. And you have to have overlap of the locations. So I think there's some opportunity how to measure that. I'm not really sure how to measure it. Speaker 100:20:07I think of it more as a total home package. We feel like we have a lot of growth in Home still ahead of us. And again, I think that's pretty broad based. Speaker 600:20:17And just as a quick follow-up, do you think the home category is starting to form a base after several quarters now of attrition? Speaker 100:20:28You mean specifically to us or you mean in the world? Speaker 600:20:32I guess both because it seems like more people are starting to talk about the home category Into the form of bottom. Speaker 100:20:38Yes. Look, I think it depends on where you are in your development as a home business. So we have some businesses that are more developed than others. And so I think as we develop some of those other businesses, it will help us to continue to grow that as opposed to If we were in every business and everything was developed. So all businesses within our home business are not created equal. Speaker 100:21:00And so I think for us, we still see opportunity. In terms of the outside world, yes, there are a lot of people in home and it goes back to what you're offering. So I take the whole value equation for us in the entire box that would include home and making sure that we have the right values to continue to grow that business and then to maximize The areas where we are still what I would call underdeveloped. Speaker 600:21:25Great answer. Thank you very much. Operator00:21:29And the next question comes from the line of Paul Lejuez with Citigroup. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 600:21:35Hey, thanks guys. I'm curious how DDs performed relative to raw off. I think you said you saw improvement At both, but curious on an absolute basis how dd has performed. I think it's been underperforming for about a year now. And so also curious if you think that underperformance continues or perhaps do easier comparisons We have caused BBs to start to outperform the ROTH concept just whatever is built into your assumption. Speaker 600:22:06Thanks. Speaker 400:22:08Hi, Paul. I would say as we mentioned in the commentary, dd's performance also improved During the quarter versus Q1 and we believe that's a combination of better assortments and like Ross moderating inflation. That said, dd's sales trends continued to trail Ross. As a reminder, the dd's average household income It's more impacted by the inflation especially on necessities. Their average household income is $40,000 to $45,000 Compared to $60,000 to $65,000 for Ross, our strategy here is very similar. Speaker 400:22:51We are Very focused on offering strong values, which is very important to the DB customer today. Operator00:23:02And the next question comes from the line of Adrienne Yih with Barclays. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 500:23:08Great. Thank you very much. Barbara, I wanted to ask you about the Packaway merchandise. I mean, it's a shade lower than last year. I was just wondering if you can talk about how much of that packaway is actually short stay in tristeatin versus kind of annualized? Speaker 500:23:24I know you tend to do more of the short stay. And then the supply chain sort of being unlocked, obviously, I would assume that allows you to Play in that kind of short stay much more effectively. My second just follow-up question is, on the direct import side, You don't do Speaker 100:23:42as much direct import. Speaker 500:23:43So I'm just curious how much of the ocean sort of the modal mix ocean to air Versus domestic, right, sort of that outbound, I suppose, rail trucking. Is that rail trucking, the domestic portion of it Outweighing the Oceanair, if I can ask that. Thank you very much. Speaker 400:24:06I'll answer the question on the transportation. Ocean Freight, despite the fact that direct imports is a smaller part of our business, ocean freight had a larger impact than the domestic Transportation, save. The domestic transportation, you can see it's separately within our gross margin It was driven by better rates, but within the year fuel rates have come down versus our expectations, which is where we saw benefit in the first quarter Our Q2, sorry. Speaker 100:24:40And then in terms of short stays of Packaway, it means a mix of What we would define or guess what you're defining as longer stays versus short stays of product and that very much depends on when you're buying, right? So if you're buying Spring pack away or next year that would be something that would be happening more along the lines of This kind of this timeframe. So again, there's always a mix and it fluctuates based off of what we find, what we want to pack, What that looks like? So there's no formula to that. It's really about what's the best possible deal, the best possible value we can get for the customers. Speaker 100:25:18So that moves around. But it is a combination of both. And at this particular time, it's kind of like you haven't necessarily put out all your fall You haven't necessarily put in all your spring if you were talking on the apparel side. The supply chain Unlock in terms of a short stay in the hotel, are you implying on our direct imports or are you applying in the outside world? Speaker 500:25:42In either, probably both, if you can share that. Speaker 100:25:47Yes. So the short Dave, in terms of putting in the hotel, we don't necessarily put goods that we bring in ourselves in the hotel, in any big way unless we have to. Now a year ago, when we had all the carrier issues, Obviously, the goods arrived early. We took the goods in. We released them. Speaker 100:26:03Sometimes we do we put goods in there for short stays for Variety of reasons, container size, there's a variety of reasons why we do it, but it's not something that we Like to do as a big as a large strategy in home with our own imports, but we do do some. So the supply chain timing of the unlock for our call it business as usual prior to the casual, the carrier issues, Again, we manage that very closely. It really was last year in this timeframe where all those goods came in. We had And then metered out at the appropriate times for the customer, otherwise we would have been off seasonality in a variety of other You know, issues along with that. Operator00:26:52And the next question comes from the line of Brooke Roach with Goldman Sachs. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 700:26:59Good afternoon and thank you for taking our question. Barbara, you talked about the opportunity to continue to improve your assortment As you move forward following some early gains, was there any change in your mix this quarter between good, better, best? And how are you planning those buys between the assortment of good, better, best into the second half of the year? Thank you. Speaker 100:27:23Change in good, better, best, I don't really think there was a significant change in our good, better, best strategy. Best has been out there in the market a while. There's been a lot of availability. So a lot of what for this past quarter that Would have affected what you would have seen on the floor in terms of the 3 buckets was the amount of merchandise that we chased based on and the availability in the market. And so since the availability in the market is pretty broad based between good, better, best, I mean, as usual, not every class, every price point. Speaker 100:27:58I think the assortments are more reflective What we've been able to chase. And I would say the same thing for fall. Obviously, we have a Strategy around balance, but when you're chasing as much as we're chasing, that kind of really goes to what the customer is voting on And what we can get in the market. I think the merchants in Q2 did a very good job of getting values on the floor, Chasing back into more of what she wanted and trying to hit the appropriate levels of each one of those buckets because the customer votes every day. We could want a particular good, better, best on the floor. Speaker 100:28:42That's not necessarily what the customer wants. So I think the merchants have really been out in the market and really, really looking for great deals, which have been out there. And so it fluctuates. And I would expect it would fluctuate In Q3 and Q4, but we are looking for each one of those buckets and great deals in all of them. Operator00:29:04And the next question comes from the line of Dana Telsey with Telsey Advisory Group. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 800:29:10Hi, good afternoon everyone and nice to see the nice results. As you think about the current environment, I believe last time Barbara you had mentioned The focus on value that's the consumers are searching for and you could do a better job of it. How much is the improvement that we saw this quarter? Is the comparison given the increase in traffic, how much of it was the consumer and how much of it on your journey of better value for better brands, How much of it is your progress there and where are you versus relative to where you want to be? And then just any updates on new store How those are doing versus your plan? Speaker 800:29:49Thank you. Speaker 400:29:50Dana on the productivity levels they haven't changed. They've Average between 60% 65% of an average mature store For the chain and that has not changed over time. Speaker 100:30:07You want to talk about traffic? Speaker 400:30:12Traffic on so on traffic, Your question on traffic. So traffic was the main driver of the comp for the quarter. Speaker 100:30:27And where is the customer on the journey? Look, I think the customer with moderating inflation Is feeling a little bit more room to spend money, but again, our customers, moderate to low income customers, so they still she still faces inflation In front of her because she has just the higher cost and necessity she has to spend. So I think on our journey with the customer In terms of better value and better values on the floor, I think it's a continual process, right? The customer votes And the merchants are out buying goods and responding to what she's voting on. So I think from in Q2 versus Q1, I think the merchant team Did a better job of offering her broader assortments and better values and I think we'll continue to make progress on that and it will seek its own level. Speaker 100:31:19It's not really A target or a level that we have in mind is just how the customer responds and obviously we want to put out the best possible values we always can. And so the merchants have that in mind and now they have really a heightened awareness and the ability to chase goods has really given us an opportunity to perhaps accelerate some of those things. So again, it'll continue. I don't have a beginning or end amount that We think you should ask because I think the customer will decide for us and our job and the merchant team's job is to respond to that and satisfy her in whatever level that is. Operator00:32:01And the next question comes from the line of Alex Stratton with Morgan Stanley. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 900:32:07Great. Thanks for taking the question and congrats on a nice quarter. I wanted to talk about the competitive landscape. On our end, we've witnessed the rise of these low price e commerce players in recent years like even Shein. So I'm just wondering like how maybe Barbara you think about those types of businesses, what they mean for Ross or even how the competitive landscape has Change now versus a few years ago. Speaker 900:32:32Thanks a lot. Speaker 100:32:35Well, obviously Sheehan is doing a lot of business And they offer great value. We have a our junior business It's a pretty large business for us in ladies apparel. So I think that would be most comparable. I don't think I can really compare myself to Shan. I think Reality of it is to see there's a lot more competition in that arena, whether it's Jium, whether it's Primark, whether So I think it's just our job to be able to offer assortments that satisfy the customer. Speaker 100:33:08And again, they're just like another competitor. If you think about all the competitors, right, department stores years ago had a lot more share. So that would have been a major competitor for us. I think, I mean, you would know better than I would know. You're watching the world evolve and different segments of the market are more challenging than others. Speaker 100:33:30And so I think one of the best parts about being in off price is that we have a unique opportunity to satisfy all types of customers. This is why we want the assortments to be broad. This is why we want the values to be strong. And everyone keeps asking about the trade down customer. I think just getting more customers is really by broadening your assortment. Speaker 100:33:46And I think off price, It's really by broadening your assortment. And I think Off Price has a unique opportunity to do that versus if I'm in another particular segment. The merchants obviously study Shein, they study all the other retailers and their job is to understand what they offer and what we can offer And to give the best product and the best value that we can. And I think there's been if we looked at this and had this discussion 10 years ago, it would be a very different discussion than where we are today. So Retailing is, I think we probably all agree dynamic. Speaker 100:34:18And so but I do believe that off price has this unique opportunity because it carries lots of products It has the ability to flex based off of the customer and you're not kind of pigeonholed into One view of who you are. You can flex and move with what the customer wants. So I think our price is in the right place at the right time. Operator00:34:47And the next question comes from the line of Ike Boruchow with Wells Fargo. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 500:34:53Hi, everyone. This is Juliana on for Ike. Congrats on a good quarter. Maybe just a quick follow-up on AURs. Is the moderation we're seeing there more result of mix shift towards cosmetic and accessories, for example, we saw this quarter? Speaker 500:35:06And as we see home performance improving, do you see that driving an upside there? Thank you. Speaker 400:35:12On the AUR, It was a combination of mix shift and us providing better values to the customer. The way we think about it going forward is we really don't plan the business on traffic or transactions. We think if we offer the best values That will have an impact on both traffic and basket size. AURs will fundamentally be dependent on the Mix of sales in the business. Speaker 100:35:43And then in terms of home, listen, I feel like we what I said, we have opportunity in home. And so that compared to the company as there are upside versus other businesses, I think over time. Home is not home is longer lead time type businesses and things, but I do believe there is upside. Operator00:36:09And the next question comes from the line of Marni Shapiro with Retail Tracker. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 1000:36:15Thanks, guys. Congratulations on a great quarter. I'm curious in most of your regions or a lot of your regions, students are back to school. I'm curious if you saw Early pickup for traffic for back to school and what the trends were looking like. And just in general, I'm curious if you guys are seeing sort of the Peaks and valleys in your traffic around holidays where holiday weekends or holiday events, the traffic is much higher and when it's In the valley, it's lower or has it evened out a little bit? Speaker 400:36:47Hi, Marni. We wouldn't talk about intra quarter Trends for back to school in terms of traffic, I would say in our business it's been very steady Versus peaks and valleys that you mentioned. Operator00:37:06And the next question comes from the line of Laura Champine with Loop Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 500:37:13Thanks for taking my question. I noted that this was the 3rd quarter in a row of Inventories down double digits, which seems just to be normalization, but do you have enough inventory In your opinion given the current improvement in sales trend? Speaker 400:37:32Hi, Laura. Yes, the reduction in inventory It was down 15% as we mentioned in the release and that was really about the comparison versus last year where we had As Barbara mentioned, substantial amount of early receipts that we had to store in our packaway facilities And also higher in transit inventory. So we're up against those larger numbers last year. We feel good about our overall inventory levels. We actually ended up 4% in our stores. Speaker 400:38:07So I would say overall, the level and content of the inventory we're happy with. Operator00:38:17And the next question comes from the line of Edward Yruma with Piper Sandler. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 100:38:22Hey, thanks for taking the questions. Just quickly, I Speaker 1100:38:25know you cited strength in cosmetics and accessories, kind of curious on inventory availability there, if you're chasing there. Obviously, there's a proposed M and A in the space of that impact in your opinion kind of accessory availability long term. And then just a model housekeeping question. I noticed that accrued payrolls were up pretty materially year over year and sequentially. Any driver you'd like to call out there would be great. Speaker 1100:38:47Thanks. Speaker 200:38:50On the last piece, accrued payroll, it's really our financial performance. So incentive costs are up and when you look at that this year versus Last year comparison. Speaker 100:39:00And I just want to make sure on the cosmetic and accessory question, you want to know what the availability is? Speaker 1100:39:07Yes, just kind of curious if you're seeing good product in the market and if you're willing to opine on this M and A that may happen in the space like would that Hamper your availability in accessory space longer term? Speaker 100:39:21Look, there's availability in almost every market. I said in the beginning, I mean, not every class and every business in every market has availability, but Both cosmetics and accessories have availability just depending upon what it is you're looking for. The second piece of the question, I'm not sure if you can Speaker 400:39:38comment on the M and A in the Speaker 100:39:41Okay. Operator00:39:44And the next question comes from the line of Anisha Sherman with Bernstein. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 1200:39:51Thank you. So similar to last quarter, your new guidance also models a comp acceleration on a 4 year stack. Can you talk about what makes you confident about that acceleration going into the second half? Is it more about external factors like inflation moderating? Or is it about Internal execution and bringing a better product to the market. Speaker 1200:40:14And then second, some other discount retailers have talked this week about Absorbing inflation and doing price rollbacks for back to school, do you expect fall and back to school to become quite promotional across the sector? Thank you. Speaker 400:40:30On the guidance, Anisha, I think it's a function of How we performed in the Q2 and our confidence in the assortments we're providing the customer. I'd say that's What's driving our guidance in the Q3 and the Q4, we actually see a deceleration and we'll update that as we get closer. We think the 4th quarters could be a very promotional holiday season. Operator00:41:00And the next question comes from the line of Cory Tarlow with Jefferies. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 1300:41:07Great, thanks. You talked about cosmetics and accessories and a little bit on home. I was wondering if you could also touch on Footwear and apparel, anything you're seeing there? How does that perform relative to the chain average? And then just on real estate, what's the availability look like? Speaker 1300:41:23And Is there any impact that you're seeing as you look down your real estate pipeline in terms of impact from potentially higher rates on Higher interest rates on either rental agreements or returns that you've seen? Speaker 400:41:39Sure. Merchant wise, let me talk about the Category performance, merchandise wise, cosmetics and accessories, as we mentioned, we're again the best performing businesses. Shoes and home We're above the chain average. Apparel trailed the chain although it performed above our plan and improved versus Q1. On real estate availability, I'd say overall there's been an increased interest From other retailers and the types of real estate that we typically prefer. Speaker 400:42:13That said, our team has a very methodical process of developing a healthy Real estate pipeline to support our long term growth plans. And in terms of Brent, obviously, we're under contract and have option renewals and we're not seeing at this point major increases in And our rent Operator00:42:39costs. And the next question comes from the line of John Kernan with TD Speaker 1400:42:46Good afternoon. This is Krista Zuber on behalf of John. Just given the still broadly highly promotional environment across Retail heading into the second half and your sharper value proposition. I wonder if you could just talk to you rather broadly Or directionally, how you see sort of your merchandise margin in relation to your Q3 operating margin guidance? Thank you. Speaker 200:43:12Christa, merchandise margin will continue to be primarily driven by Ocean Freight Benefit. I mentioned earlier, we'll have a little bit of tailwind just As we had elevated markdown levels that will be helped to us and really that's all we see as major moving components within merchandise margin. Operator00:43:35We have time for one final question coming from the line of Jay Sole with UBS. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 600:43:42Great. Thank you for taking my question. I guess if you just take a step back and just give us an idea of how the overall Inventory buying environment compares right now to a year ago, because if you go back a year ago, it was really a time where a lot of retailers and just the whole Industry realized how much excess inventory had been built up post reopening and heading into sort of a slowdown as inflation really started to kick in. So could you just give us an idea of how you think about the environment now relative to then? Is it as good? Speaker 600:44:09Is it better? Is it a little bit worse? Is it a lot worse? 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There are 15 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Afternoon, and welcome to the Ross Stores Second Quarter 2023 Earnings Release Conference Call. The call will begin with prepared comments by management followed by a question and answer session. Before we get started, on behalf of Ross Stores, I would like to note The comments made on this call will contain forward looking statements regarding expectations about future growth and financial results, including sales and earnings forecasts, new store openings and other matters that are based on the company's current forecast of aspects of its future business. These forward looking statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from historical performance or current expectations. Risk factors are included in today's press release in the company's fiscal 2022 Form 10 ks and fiscal 2023 Form 10 Q and 8ks on file with the SEC. Operator00:00:53And now, I would like to turn the call over to Barbara Rentler, Chief Executive Officer. Speaker 100:00:59Good afternoon. Joining me on our call today are Michael Horshron, Group President and Chief Operating Officer Adam Orbos, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer and Connie Cao, Group Vice President, Investor Relations. We'll begin our call today with a review of our Q2 2023 performance, followed by our updated outlook for the second half and fiscal year. Afterwards, we'll be happy to respond to any questions you may have. As noted in today's press release, we are pleased with our 2nd quarter results with both sales and earnings well above our expectations. Speaker 100:01:35Along with easing inflationary pressures, customers responded well to our improved value offerings throughout our stores. Total sales for the period were $4,900,000,000 up from $4,600,000,000 last year, while comparable store sales rose 5%. Earnings per share for the 13 weeks ended July 29, 2023 were $1.32 on net income of $446,000,000 These results compared to $1.11 per share on net earnings of $385,000,000 in the prior year's Q2. For the 1st 6 months, earnings per share were $2.41 on net income of $818,000,000 These results compared to earnings per share of 2.08 on net earnings of $723,000,000 in first half of twenty twenty two. Sales for 2023 year to date period were $9,400,000,000 with comparable sales up 3% versus a 7% decline in the first half of last year. Speaker 100:02:51Cosmetics and accessories were the strongest merchandise areas during the quarter, Performance across geographic areas was broad based. Similar to Ross, dd's discount performance also improved due to better merchandise Assortment and the aforementioned moderating inflation. At quarter end, total consolidated inventories were down 15% versus last year, while average store inventories were up 4%. Takeaway merchandise represented 38% of total inventories versus 41% in the same period of the prior year. Turning to store growth, we opened 18 new Ross and 9 dd's discount locations in the Q2. Speaker 100:03:36We remain on track to open a total of approximately 100 locations this year, comprised of about 75 ROTH and 25 DDs. As usual, these numbers do not reflect our plans Close or relocate about 10 stores. Now Adam will provide further details on our 2nd quarter results and additional color on our updated outlook for the remainder of fiscal 2023. Speaker 200:04:02Thank you, Barbara. As previously mentioned, our comparable store sales were up 5% for the quarter driven by higher traffic. 2nd quarter operating margin was flat compared to last year at 11.3%. Cost of Goods sold during the period improved by 185 basis points. Merchandise margin increased 200 basis points primarily due to lower ocean freight costs. Speaker 200:04:29Domestic freight declined 60 basis points, while occupancy and distribution cost improved by 20 and 5 basis points respectively. Partially offsetting these benefits were buying expenses that delevered by 100 basis points mainly due to higher incentives. SG and A for the period increased 180 basis points as higher incentive costs and store wages more than offset the leverage from higher sales. During the Q2, we repurchased 2,200,000 shares of common stock for an aggregate cost of $230,000,000 We remain on track to buy back a total of $950,000,000 in stock for the year. Now let's discuss our outlook for the remainder of 2023. Speaker 200:05:22As Barbara noted in today's press release, Despite the recent moderation in inflation, our low to moderate income customer continues to face persistently higher costs on necessities. As a result, we believe it is prudent to continue to plan the business cautiously. However, given our improved second quarter performance, We are raising our second half sales and earnings outlook. We are now planning comparable store sales for the 3rd and 4th quarters of 2023 to be up 2% to 3% and 1% to 2% respectively. As noted in our press release, If the second half performs in line with these updated sales assumptions, earnings per share for the Q3 is projected to be 1 $0.16 to $1.21 versus $1 last year and $1.58 to $1.64 for the 4th quarter compared to $1.31 in 2022. Speaker 200:06:24Based on our first half results and second half guidance, Earnings per share for fiscal year 2023 are now planned to be in the range of $5.15 to $5.26 versus $4.38 last year. Incorporated in this updated guidance range is an estimated benefit to earnings per share of approximately $0.16 from the 53rd week in fiscal 2023. Now let's turn to our guidance assumptions for the Q3 of 2023. Total sales are forecast to increase 4% percent versus the prior year. We expect to open 51 stores during the quarter, including 43 Ross and 8 DDs locations. Speaker 200:07:14Operating margin for the 3rd quarter is planned to be in the 10.3% to 10.5% range versus 9.8% in 2022 as the benefit from lower ocean and domestic freight costs more than offsets an increase in other expenses, primarily related to incentive compensation and store wages. Net interest income is estimated to be approximately $34,000,000 versus $2,800,000 last year as we continue to benefit from higher interest rates on our cash balance. The tax rate is projected to be about 25% and diluted shares outstanding are expected to be approximately 3 Now I will turn the call over to Barbara for closing comments. Speaker 100:08:04Thank you, Adam. While we are pleased with our above plan results in the Q2, the macroeconomic, geopolitical and retail environments remain uncertain. Moving forward, we remain keenly focused on delivering the most compelling bargains possible as our customer is more motivated than ever to seek the best branded value as prolonged inflation remains an issue. We will also carefully manage our expenses and inventory to maximize our potential for both sales and earnings growth. Longer term, we believe the rigorous execution of our off price business model will allow us to consistently deliver solid results. Speaker 100:08:43At this point, we'd like to open up the call and respond to any questions you may have. Operator00:08:48Thank you. We will now be conducting a question and answer session. Speaker 300:09:24So Barbara, could you just elaborate on the improved value offerings that you cited in the release and Just proactive assortment changes that you've made in stores that you think are contributing to the improved performance. If any way to speak The trends that you're seeing with traffic versus basket as the Q2 progressed and into August that would be really helpful. Speaker 400:09:48Matthew, let me start on overall trends. For the quarter, on sequential trends, we wouldn't provide specifics, I would say comps were relatively strong across the quarter both on a single year comp basis and a multi year basis. On the components as we said in the commentary traffic was the primary driver Of the 5% comp, that was true for both chains. Average basket was flat With an increase slight increase in the units per transaction and a lower AUR Which offset the units per transaction. Speaker 100:10:35And then Matt, in terms of the improved value offerings, as we said before, We are really striving to offer better branded value partners for the customer. I mean, our customer is a low to moderate income customer And the merchants have been out there really chasing the business, buying closeouts, really looking for compelling values and bargains. And that's across all areas in the company. It's not just one particular area, it's everywhere because that's really what the customers are responding to And because of the amount of availability of the market, we've been able to do that. Speaker 300:11:14Great. And then just as a follow-up, could you Expand on gross margin for the balance of this year, meaning how best to think about the opportunity to recapture markdown headwinds That we saw a year ago as the year progresses within merchandise margin. And then just multi year, are there any structural impediments To returning to pre pandemic operating margin levels, which I think were in the mid-13s? Speaker 200:11:39Yes. I'll take the first piece. Matt, this is Adam. Thanks for the question. 3rd quarter from an operating margin standpoint, the components will look similar to 2nd quarter. Speaker 200:11:48So ocean freight It was a significant tailwind for us and will continue in Q3. But I'll remind you that in 4th Quarter last year, we started to see the benefits of ocean freight, so it will moderate considerably in Q4. But again, 3rd quarter versus second quarter, it should be comparable on that standpoint. From a domestic freight standpoint, Again, we commented in the call on 60 basis points of good news. Assuming fuel costs stay the same, Would expect that to continue through the balance of 2023. Speaker 200:12:26Other big movers, we've commented a lot about We knew that would be a headwind coming into the year as we outperformed this year and go up against an underperforming 2022. So that was a big moving part and that'll continue into Q3 and Q4, but would also comment the way We've flowed incentive cost last year. 2nd quarter was the most impactful quarter. So it'll still be a significant headwind, but in Q3 and Q4, but not as significant as Q2. Speaker 400:13:01Matthew, on the long term Growth algorithm, we still believe we can achieve gradual improvement in profitability over time. In general, EBIT growth though will be highly dependent on sustained strong sales growth And certainly how the macroeconomic and geopolitical factors including inflation may continue to unfold. To achieve this, obviously, strengthening our price value offerings across our entire assortment is going to be key to that success. I'd say outside top line, we continue to believe there are opportunities throughout the P and L that can help drive comp growth and EBIT margin expansion over time. Speaker 200:13:51And I think you also asked Markdown, so we didn't answer that question. So given the elevated levels last fall, Should expect some benefit as we move through the second half, obviously, assuming we deliver our sales expectations. Speaker 300:14:08Great color. Congrats again. Thanks. Operator00:14:13And the next question comes from the line of Lorraine Hutchinson with Bank of America. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 500:14:19Thank you. Good afternoon. I wanted to focus on SG and A for a minute, understanding this year there's a rebuild of incentive comp. How are you thinking about that line item over the longer term? And what comp would you expect to leverage SG and A in the out years? Speaker 200:14:37Yes. Hi, Lorraine. This is Adam. So SG and A, we knew would be pressured due to incentive costs coming into this year and it Clearly was, but most of our SG and A deleverage in the second quarter was driven by incentive cost, although higher store wages played Part in that also. I think your kind of longer term leverage question, 4% comp is where we think we Clearly lever and SG and A and that fundamentally hasn't changed for us. Speaker 500:15:11Thank you. And then any change to your outlook on wage pressures either for this year or for the coming years? Speaker 400:15:19Sure, Lorraine. Generally speaking, wages in our stores and DCs are relatively Stable, so there was no change to the outlook for 2023. We continue To take a market by market approach to staffing and we do adjust wages where appropriate in individual markets. Say longer term, I think it's going to be dependent on the statutory environment. That's really what's driven our wage growth over the last few years. Speaker 500:15:52Thank you. Operator00:15:56Ladies and gentlemen, as a reminder, we ask Thank you. And the next question comes from the line of Mark Altschwager with Baird. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 600:16:08Thank you. Good afternoon. Great quarter. Back to the top line for a moment. Just with the positive inflection you're seeing in comps, What's your level of confidence that the business can return to a 3%, 3% plus next year? Speaker 600:16:22And Bigger picture, do you think you've hit the point where the value is resonating in a way that it can trump the inflationary pressure Your consumer is feeling elsewhere. I guess, asked another way, tough times is when we would think more customers would need ROS And the trade down can drive the top line. Do you think that's where we are today? Thank you. Speaker 400:16:47Here's how I'd answer that. Generally speaking, we can control what we can control. We know that we made some progress improving our assortments During the Q2, we also know there's we can make significantly more improvements. And With that, I think that gives us confidence or that we can continue to grow comp. Longer term, When we start talking about next year, I think we'll be in a better position to see what the outlook is when we give our Earnings guidance early next year. Speaker 400:17:21So we'll continue to monitor the economy. It still remains very uncertain and We'll do what we can to offer the customer the best possible value possible in this environment, which is very important to our Speaker 100:17:36I think the other piece Mark is that, if we continue to improve on our value offerings, we really think that that's the way to gain share across All customer income demographics. So if we do a good, better, best strategy and we have incredible values, We have more of an opportunity to gain more customers. Speaker 600:17:58Thank you. Speaker 500:18:44And our next question comes from the line of Chuck Grom with Gordon Haskett. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 600:18:52Can you guys hear me? Speaker 200:18:54We can. We can. Speaker 600:18:55Okay. Okay. Now the call went dead. Thanks. Great quarter. Speaker 600:18:59I wanted to see if you guys could talk about the home category a little bit. You called out cosmetics and accessories being areas of strength. Your largest The other day talked about home being strong and I was wondering if you could talk about that and also tie in what's happened with Bebeth. Speaker 100:19:16I'm sorry, I didn't catch the last piece. You said with? Speaker 600:19:19If you could just tie in any benefit you think you saw in the quarter and could expect to see in the coming quarters from Bed Bath and Beyond. Speaker 100:19:25Paul from Bebez Neha. Okay, sorry. Home also performed above the chain average. And We feel that there's a lot of growth still left in home for us, pretty broad based across the board. In terms of Bed Bath and Beyond, Two thoughts. Speaker 100:19:43One is that they lost a lot of volume prior to this even happening. And the classifications that they carried Where we have overlap, I think over time we could pick up more volume perhaps, but I think that's very hard to measure. And you have to have overlap of the locations. So I think there's some opportunity how to measure that. I'm not really sure how to measure it. Speaker 100:20:07I think of it more as a total home package. We feel like we have a lot of growth in Home still ahead of us. And again, I think that's pretty broad based. Speaker 600:20:17And just as a quick follow-up, do you think the home category is starting to form a base after several quarters now of attrition? Speaker 100:20:28You mean specifically to us or you mean in the world? Speaker 600:20:32I guess both because it seems like more people are starting to talk about the home category Into the form of bottom. Speaker 100:20:38Yes. Look, I think it depends on where you are in your development as a home business. So we have some businesses that are more developed than others. And so I think as we develop some of those other businesses, it will help us to continue to grow that as opposed to If we were in every business and everything was developed. So all businesses within our home business are not created equal. Speaker 100:21:00And so I think for us, we still see opportunity. In terms of the outside world, yes, there are a lot of people in home and it goes back to what you're offering. So I take the whole value equation for us in the entire box that would include home and making sure that we have the right values to continue to grow that business and then to maximize The areas where we are still what I would call underdeveloped. Speaker 600:21:25Great answer. Thank you very much. Operator00:21:29And the next question comes from the line of Paul Lejuez with Citigroup. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 600:21:35Hey, thanks guys. I'm curious how DDs performed relative to raw off. I think you said you saw improvement At both, but curious on an absolute basis how dd has performed. I think it's been underperforming for about a year now. And so also curious if you think that underperformance continues or perhaps do easier comparisons We have caused BBs to start to outperform the ROTH concept just whatever is built into your assumption. Speaker 600:22:06Thanks. Speaker 400:22:08Hi, Paul. I would say as we mentioned in the commentary, dd's performance also improved During the quarter versus Q1 and we believe that's a combination of better assortments and like Ross moderating inflation. That said, dd's sales trends continued to trail Ross. As a reminder, the dd's average household income It's more impacted by the inflation especially on necessities. Their average household income is $40,000 to $45,000 Compared to $60,000 to $65,000 for Ross, our strategy here is very similar. Speaker 400:22:51We are Very focused on offering strong values, which is very important to the DB customer today. Operator00:23:02And the next question comes from the line of Adrienne Yih with Barclays. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 500:23:08Great. Thank you very much. Barbara, I wanted to ask you about the Packaway merchandise. I mean, it's a shade lower than last year. I was just wondering if you can talk about how much of that packaway is actually short stay in tristeatin versus kind of annualized? Speaker 500:23:24I know you tend to do more of the short stay. And then the supply chain sort of being unlocked, obviously, I would assume that allows you to Play in that kind of short stay much more effectively. My second just follow-up question is, on the direct import side, You don't do Speaker 100:23:42as much direct import. Speaker 500:23:43So I'm just curious how much of the ocean sort of the modal mix ocean to air Versus domestic, right, sort of that outbound, I suppose, rail trucking. Is that rail trucking, the domestic portion of it Outweighing the Oceanair, if I can ask that. Thank you very much. Speaker 400:24:06I'll answer the question on the transportation. Ocean Freight, despite the fact that direct imports is a smaller part of our business, ocean freight had a larger impact than the domestic Transportation, save. The domestic transportation, you can see it's separately within our gross margin It was driven by better rates, but within the year fuel rates have come down versus our expectations, which is where we saw benefit in the first quarter Our Q2, sorry. Speaker 100:24:40And then in terms of short stays of Packaway, it means a mix of What we would define or guess what you're defining as longer stays versus short stays of product and that very much depends on when you're buying, right? So if you're buying Spring pack away or next year that would be something that would be happening more along the lines of This kind of this timeframe. So again, there's always a mix and it fluctuates based off of what we find, what we want to pack, What that looks like? So there's no formula to that. It's really about what's the best possible deal, the best possible value we can get for the customers. Speaker 100:25:18So that moves around. But it is a combination of both. And at this particular time, it's kind of like you haven't necessarily put out all your fall You haven't necessarily put in all your spring if you were talking on the apparel side. The supply chain Unlock in terms of a short stay in the hotel, are you implying on our direct imports or are you applying in the outside world? Speaker 500:25:42In either, probably both, if you can share that. Speaker 100:25:47Yes. So the short Dave, in terms of putting in the hotel, we don't necessarily put goods that we bring in ourselves in the hotel, in any big way unless we have to. Now a year ago, when we had all the carrier issues, Obviously, the goods arrived early. We took the goods in. We released them. Speaker 100:26:03Sometimes we do we put goods in there for short stays for Variety of reasons, container size, there's a variety of reasons why we do it, but it's not something that we Like to do as a big as a large strategy in home with our own imports, but we do do some. So the supply chain timing of the unlock for our call it business as usual prior to the casual, the carrier issues, Again, we manage that very closely. It really was last year in this timeframe where all those goods came in. We had And then metered out at the appropriate times for the customer, otherwise we would have been off seasonality in a variety of other You know, issues along with that. Operator00:26:52And the next question comes from the line of Brooke Roach with Goldman Sachs. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 700:26:59Good afternoon and thank you for taking our question. Barbara, you talked about the opportunity to continue to improve your assortment As you move forward following some early gains, was there any change in your mix this quarter between good, better, best? And how are you planning those buys between the assortment of good, better, best into the second half of the year? Thank you. Speaker 100:27:23Change in good, better, best, I don't really think there was a significant change in our good, better, best strategy. Best has been out there in the market a while. There's been a lot of availability. So a lot of what for this past quarter that Would have affected what you would have seen on the floor in terms of the 3 buckets was the amount of merchandise that we chased based on and the availability in the market. And so since the availability in the market is pretty broad based between good, better, best, I mean, as usual, not every class, every price point. Speaker 100:27:58I think the assortments are more reflective What we've been able to chase. And I would say the same thing for fall. Obviously, we have a Strategy around balance, but when you're chasing as much as we're chasing, that kind of really goes to what the customer is voting on And what we can get in the market. I think the merchants in Q2 did a very good job of getting values on the floor, Chasing back into more of what she wanted and trying to hit the appropriate levels of each one of those buckets because the customer votes every day. We could want a particular good, better, best on the floor. Speaker 100:28:42That's not necessarily what the customer wants. So I think the merchants have really been out in the market and really, really looking for great deals, which have been out there. And so it fluctuates. And I would expect it would fluctuate In Q3 and Q4, but we are looking for each one of those buckets and great deals in all of them. Operator00:29:04And the next question comes from the line of Dana Telsey with Telsey Advisory Group. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 800:29:10Hi, good afternoon everyone and nice to see the nice results. As you think about the current environment, I believe last time Barbara you had mentioned The focus on value that's the consumers are searching for and you could do a better job of it. How much is the improvement that we saw this quarter? Is the comparison given the increase in traffic, how much of it was the consumer and how much of it on your journey of better value for better brands, How much of it is your progress there and where are you versus relative to where you want to be? And then just any updates on new store How those are doing versus your plan? Speaker 800:29:49Thank you. Speaker 400:29:50Dana on the productivity levels they haven't changed. They've Average between 60% 65% of an average mature store For the chain and that has not changed over time. Speaker 100:30:07You want to talk about traffic? Speaker 400:30:12Traffic on so on traffic, Your question on traffic. So traffic was the main driver of the comp for the quarter. Speaker 100:30:27And where is the customer on the journey? Look, I think the customer with moderating inflation Is feeling a little bit more room to spend money, but again, our customers, moderate to low income customers, so they still she still faces inflation In front of her because she has just the higher cost and necessity she has to spend. So I think on our journey with the customer In terms of better value and better values on the floor, I think it's a continual process, right? The customer votes And the merchants are out buying goods and responding to what she's voting on. So I think from in Q2 versus Q1, I think the merchant team Did a better job of offering her broader assortments and better values and I think we'll continue to make progress on that and it will seek its own level. Speaker 100:31:19It's not really A target or a level that we have in mind is just how the customer responds and obviously we want to put out the best possible values we always can. And so the merchants have that in mind and now they have really a heightened awareness and the ability to chase goods has really given us an opportunity to perhaps accelerate some of those things. So again, it'll continue. I don't have a beginning or end amount that We think you should ask because I think the customer will decide for us and our job and the merchant team's job is to respond to that and satisfy her in whatever level that is. Operator00:32:01And the next question comes from the line of Alex Stratton with Morgan Stanley. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 900:32:07Great. Thanks for taking the question and congrats on a nice quarter. I wanted to talk about the competitive landscape. On our end, we've witnessed the rise of these low price e commerce players in recent years like even Shein. So I'm just wondering like how maybe Barbara you think about those types of businesses, what they mean for Ross or even how the competitive landscape has Change now versus a few years ago. Speaker 900:32:32Thanks a lot. Speaker 100:32:35Well, obviously Sheehan is doing a lot of business And they offer great value. We have a our junior business It's a pretty large business for us in ladies apparel. So I think that would be most comparable. I don't think I can really compare myself to Shan. I think Reality of it is to see there's a lot more competition in that arena, whether it's Jium, whether it's Primark, whether So I think it's just our job to be able to offer assortments that satisfy the customer. Speaker 100:33:08And again, they're just like another competitor. If you think about all the competitors, right, department stores years ago had a lot more share. So that would have been a major competitor for us. I think, I mean, you would know better than I would know. You're watching the world evolve and different segments of the market are more challenging than others. Speaker 100:33:30And so I think one of the best parts about being in off price is that we have a unique opportunity to satisfy all types of customers. This is why we want the assortments to be broad. This is why we want the values to be strong. And everyone keeps asking about the trade down customer. I think just getting more customers is really by broadening your assortment. Speaker 100:33:46And I think off price, It's really by broadening your assortment. And I think Off Price has a unique opportunity to do that versus if I'm in another particular segment. The merchants obviously study Shein, they study all the other retailers and their job is to understand what they offer and what we can offer And to give the best product and the best value that we can. And I think there's been if we looked at this and had this discussion 10 years ago, it would be a very different discussion than where we are today. So Retailing is, I think we probably all agree dynamic. Speaker 100:34:18And so but I do believe that off price has this unique opportunity because it carries lots of products It has the ability to flex based off of the customer and you're not kind of pigeonholed into One view of who you are. You can flex and move with what the customer wants. So I think our price is in the right place at the right time. Operator00:34:47And the next question comes from the line of Ike Boruchow with Wells Fargo. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 500:34:53Hi, everyone. This is Juliana on for Ike. Congrats on a good quarter. Maybe just a quick follow-up on AURs. Is the moderation we're seeing there more result of mix shift towards cosmetic and accessories, for example, we saw this quarter? Speaker 500:35:06And as we see home performance improving, do you see that driving an upside there? Thank you. Speaker 400:35:12On the AUR, It was a combination of mix shift and us providing better values to the customer. The way we think about it going forward is we really don't plan the business on traffic or transactions. We think if we offer the best values That will have an impact on both traffic and basket size. AURs will fundamentally be dependent on the Mix of sales in the business. Speaker 100:35:43And then in terms of home, listen, I feel like we what I said, we have opportunity in home. And so that compared to the company as there are upside versus other businesses, I think over time. Home is not home is longer lead time type businesses and things, but I do believe there is upside. Operator00:36:09And the next question comes from the line of Marni Shapiro with Retail Tracker. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 1000:36:15Thanks, guys. Congratulations on a great quarter. I'm curious in most of your regions or a lot of your regions, students are back to school. I'm curious if you saw Early pickup for traffic for back to school and what the trends were looking like. And just in general, I'm curious if you guys are seeing sort of the Peaks and valleys in your traffic around holidays where holiday weekends or holiday events, the traffic is much higher and when it's In the valley, it's lower or has it evened out a little bit? Speaker 400:36:47Hi, Marni. We wouldn't talk about intra quarter Trends for back to school in terms of traffic, I would say in our business it's been very steady Versus peaks and valleys that you mentioned. Operator00:37:06And the next question comes from the line of Laura Champine with Loop Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 500:37:13Thanks for taking my question. I noted that this was the 3rd quarter in a row of Inventories down double digits, which seems just to be normalization, but do you have enough inventory In your opinion given the current improvement in sales trend? Speaker 400:37:32Hi, Laura. Yes, the reduction in inventory It was down 15% as we mentioned in the release and that was really about the comparison versus last year where we had As Barbara mentioned, substantial amount of early receipts that we had to store in our packaway facilities And also higher in transit inventory. So we're up against those larger numbers last year. We feel good about our overall inventory levels. We actually ended up 4% in our stores. Speaker 400:38:07So I would say overall, the level and content of the inventory we're happy with. Operator00:38:17And the next question comes from the line of Edward Yruma with Piper Sandler. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 100:38:22Hey, thanks for taking the questions. Just quickly, I Speaker 1100:38:25know you cited strength in cosmetics and accessories, kind of curious on inventory availability there, if you're chasing there. Obviously, there's a proposed M and A in the space of that impact in your opinion kind of accessory availability long term. And then just a model housekeeping question. I noticed that accrued payrolls were up pretty materially year over year and sequentially. Any driver you'd like to call out there would be great. Speaker 1100:38:47Thanks. Speaker 200:38:50On the last piece, accrued payroll, it's really our financial performance. So incentive costs are up and when you look at that this year versus Last year comparison. Speaker 100:39:00And I just want to make sure on the cosmetic and accessory question, you want to know what the availability is? Speaker 1100:39:07Yes, just kind of curious if you're seeing good product in the market and if you're willing to opine on this M and A that may happen in the space like would that Hamper your availability in accessory space longer term? Speaker 100:39:21Look, there's availability in almost every market. I said in the beginning, I mean, not every class and every business in every market has availability, but Both cosmetics and accessories have availability just depending upon what it is you're looking for. The second piece of the question, I'm not sure if you can Speaker 400:39:38comment on the M and A in the Speaker 100:39:41Okay. Operator00:39:44And the next question comes from the line of Anisha Sherman with Bernstein. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 1200:39:51Thank you. So similar to last quarter, your new guidance also models a comp acceleration on a 4 year stack. Can you talk about what makes you confident about that acceleration going into the second half? Is it more about external factors like inflation moderating? Or is it about Internal execution and bringing a better product to the market. Speaker 1200:40:14And then second, some other discount retailers have talked this week about Absorbing inflation and doing price rollbacks for back to school, do you expect fall and back to school to become quite promotional across the sector? Thank you. Speaker 400:40:30On the guidance, Anisha, I think it's a function of How we performed in the Q2 and our confidence in the assortments we're providing the customer. I'd say that's What's driving our guidance in the Q3 and the Q4, we actually see a deceleration and we'll update that as we get closer. We think the 4th quarters could be a very promotional holiday season. Operator00:41:00And the next question comes from the line of Cory Tarlow with Jefferies. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 1300:41:07Great, thanks. You talked about cosmetics and accessories and a little bit on home. I was wondering if you could also touch on Footwear and apparel, anything you're seeing there? How does that perform relative to the chain average? And then just on real estate, what's the availability look like? Speaker 1300:41:23And Is there any impact that you're seeing as you look down your real estate pipeline in terms of impact from potentially higher rates on Higher interest rates on either rental agreements or returns that you've seen? Speaker 400:41:39Sure. Merchant wise, let me talk about the Category performance, merchandise wise, cosmetics and accessories, as we mentioned, we're again the best performing businesses. Shoes and home We're above the chain average. Apparel trailed the chain although it performed above our plan and improved versus Q1. On real estate availability, I'd say overall there's been an increased interest From other retailers and the types of real estate that we typically prefer. Speaker 400:42:13That said, our team has a very methodical process of developing a healthy Real estate pipeline to support our long term growth plans. And in terms of Brent, obviously, we're under contract and have option renewals and we're not seeing at this point major increases in And our rent Operator00:42:39costs. And the next question comes from the line of John Kernan with TD Speaker 1400:42:46Good afternoon. This is Krista Zuber on behalf of John. Just given the still broadly highly promotional environment across Retail heading into the second half and your sharper value proposition. I wonder if you could just talk to you rather broadly Or directionally, how you see sort of your merchandise margin in relation to your Q3 operating margin guidance? Thank you. Speaker 200:43:12Christa, merchandise margin will continue to be primarily driven by Ocean Freight Benefit. I mentioned earlier, we'll have a little bit of tailwind just As we had elevated markdown levels that will be helped to us and really that's all we see as major moving components within merchandise margin. Operator00:43:35We have time for one final question coming from the line of Jay Sole with UBS. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 600:43:42Great. Thank you for taking my question. I guess if you just take a step back and just give us an idea of how the overall Inventory buying environment compares right now to a year ago, because if you go back a year ago, it was really a time where a lot of retailers and just the whole Industry realized how much excess inventory had been built up post reopening and heading into sort of a slowdown as inflation really started to kick in. So could you just give us an idea of how you think about the environment now relative to then? Is it as good? Speaker 600:44:09Is it better? Is it a little bit worse? Is it a lot worse? Any kind of context there would be helpful. Thank you. Speaker 100:44:15There was a lot of availability last year and there's a lot of availability now. And again, it's broad based, obviously, again, not every single classification of business, but there is definitely Fine. It was there last year and it's there again this year. Operator00:44:34There are no further questions at this time. And I'd like to I'll turn the floor back over to Barbara Rentler for any closing comments. Speaker 100:44:40Thank you for joining us today and for your interest in Ross Stores. Operator00:44:45This concludes today's teleconference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation andRead morePowered by