NASDAQ:BRY Berry Q2 2023 Earnings Report $2.42 +0.08 (+3.21%) As of 03:29 PM Eastern This is a fair market value price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. Earnings HistoryForecast Berry EPS ResultsActual EPS$0.15Consensus EPS $0.01Beat/MissBeat by +$0.14One Year Ago EPS$0.64Berry Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$229.40 millionExpected Revenue$178.39 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$51.01 millionYoY Revenue Growth-9.40%Berry Announcement DetailsQuarterQ2 2023Date8/2/2023TimeBefore Market OpensConference Call DateWednesday, August 2, 2023Conference Call Time11:00AM ETUpcoming EarningsBerry's Q1 2025 earnings is scheduled for Tuesday, April 29, 2025Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Berry Q2 2023 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrAugust 2, 2023 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 6 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:05Welcome to the Berry Corporation Q2 2023 Earnings Call. At this time, all participants are in listen only mode. After the speakers' presentation, there will be a question and answer Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Todd Crabtree, Head of Investor Relations. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:39Thank you, Gerald, and welcome, everyone, and thank you for joining us for Berry's 2nd quarter 2020 3 earnings teleconference. Earlier today, Berry issued an earnings release highlighting 2023 second quarter results. Speaking this morning will be Fernando Araujo, our Chief Executive Officer and Mike Helm, our Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, I would like to call your attention to Safe Harbor language found in our earnings release that was issued this morning. This release and today's discussion contain certain projections and other forward looking statements within the meaning of federal securities laws. Speaker 100:01:13These statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially from those expressed or implied in These include risks and other factors outlined in our filings with the SEC, including our 10 Q, which will be filed later today. Our website, by.com, has a link to the earnings release and our most recent investor presentation. Any information, including forward looking statements Made on this call or contained in the earnings release and that presentation reflects our analysis as of the date made. We have no plans or duty to update them except as required by law. Please refer to the tables in our earnings release and on our website for a reconciliation between all adjusted measures mentioned in today's call and the related GAAP measures. Speaker 100:02:00We will also post the replay link of this call and the transcript on our website. I will now turn the call over to Fernando. Speaker 200:02:07Thanks, Todd. Welcome everyone and thank you for joining us. In the Q2, we successfully executed on our Our operational and financial performance was strong and we delivered on all fronts. We are excited about our pending acquisition of MacPherson Energy Corporation, which is on track to close late in the Q3. This is another step in achieving our important objective of acquiring accretive producing bolt ons. Speaker 200:02:39We currently anticipate that our full year 2023 results from our current operations will be in line with previous guidance Except with respect to capital expenditures, we expect 2023 capital expenditures to be approximately 35,000,000 lower than initial guidance. This is a result of the reallocation of capital used to fund a portion of the MacPherson transaction. We will fully update guidance in connection with the transaction flows. We delivered nearly 7 or more than 1600 barrels per day higher production volumes quarter over quarter, and we accomplished this with less capital than planned. We expect annual production from our current operations to be at or above the midpoint of our initial guidance. Speaker 200:03:26Our base production, which is expected to account for more than 95% of our total 2023 production is outperforming plan. This is mainly due to the implementation of an optimized steam injection strategy in our California fields. This is a great example of what I mean when I use the term operational excellence. The balance of production comes From our successful workover and sidetrack campaign, part of the production gain in Q2 was related to recovering deferred production from Q1. Our ongoing commitment is to maximize shareholder returns while ensuring that we remain a responsible and safe producer. Speaker 200:04:06In accordance with our shareholder return model, this quarter we will pay total dividends of $0.14 per share between fixed and variable. This is in line with our goal to deliver a 2023 cash return in the high single digits based on our current stock price. Additionally, we opportunistically repurchased $10,000,000 of our common stock during the Q2. We recently announced that we've entered into an agreement to acquire McPherson Energy Corporation, a privately held Kern County operator for $70,000,000 in cash. This transaction improves capital efficiency and reallocates capital with 80% of the purchase price funded with $35,000,000 from our planned 2023 capital expenditures, plus expected cash flows from the acquired assets in 2023 2024. Speaker 200:04:59Based on current projections and $75 per barrel Brent pricing, the adjusted free cash flow delivered by the combined company After the transaction is fully paid for in 2024, is expected to be 15% to 25% greater than Berry without Macpherson. In Fusion assets, which are high quality, low decline producing properties are a natural fit with our existing rural Kern County portfolio. In addition to the attractive base production, we see upside for near term production enhancement and development opportunities by utilizing existing Wild Wars. This is a value creating transaction for Berry and its shareholders reflective of our disciplined capital return strategy. We are ideally positioned to capture future consolidation opportunities. Speaker 200:05:48I will now turn the call over to Mike. Speaker 300:05:51Thank you, Fernando. As always, more information is available in our earnings release issued this morning and in our 10 Q filing available later today. Here are a few highlights. Our financial and operational results were strong this quarter. Adjusted EBITDA totaled $69,000,000 compared to $59,000,000 for the Q1. Speaker 300:06:10This 17% increase despite the lower oil prices is primarily due to higher production and lower lease operating expenses. Lease operating expenses, including the effect of gas purchase hedges, decreased 23% from Q1, most of which is attributable to the lower fuel costs and lower lease maintenance costs. We also continue to implement ongoing cost reduction initiatives during the quarter, some of which are beginning to bear fruit entering the second half of the year. An example of this is the completion of the solar project at our South Belle Rouge property, which in addition to reducing our carbon footprint is expected to reduce our annual power costs by about $300,000 Adjusted G and A expenses were down slightly compared to the Q1 And we expect to see continued improvement throughout the rest of the year. 2nd quarter adjusted free cash flow was $34,000,000 which after taking into account the use of working capital in the Q1 resulted in a cumulative net adjusted free cash flow of $7,000,000 for the first half of Accordingly, we have declared a variable dividend of $0.02 per share in addition to the quarterly fixed dividend of $0.12 per share. Speaker 300:07:27As a reminder, our shareholder return model is based on annual adjusted free cash flow calculated after the payment of the fixed dividend, 20% of which is earmarked for variable dividends. The remaining 80% is intended for opportunistic debt and stock repurchases as well as strategic growth and the acquisition of producing bolt ons. Berry was active with share buybacks in the 2nd quarter, Repurchasing around 1,400,000 shares in the open market for approximately $10,000,000 at an average price of $7.04 per share. We have an additional $190,000,000 authorized for future stock buybacks and $75,000,000 authorized for debt repurchases. To summarize, Berry is hitting its operational and financial targets and is well positioned for continued success maximizing shareholder returns. Speaker 300:08:15Back to you, Commander. Speaker 200:08:17Thanks, Mike. In closing, our 2nd quarter results have delivered on our commitment to maximize shareholder returns and achieve operational excellence. We are on track to meet our annual production goals with less capital spend and decreasing operating expenses. We are confident in our ability to enhance free cash flow and shareholder returns going forward. We believe that Current industry and market conditions are favorable for M and A and the MacPherson acquisition is evidence of that. Speaker 200:08:48Berry remains well positioned to be a consolidator We are actively pursuing other opportunities that align with our strategy to maximize shareholder value. With that, I will now turn the call over to the operator for questions. Operator00:09:04Thank you. We will now conduct a question and answer session. Please standby while we compile the Q and A roster. Our first question comes from the line of Charles Meade with Johnson Rice. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 400:09:35Good morning, Fernando, Mike and the rest of the Berry team. Fernando, I want to pick up Exactly where you left off there with your prepared comments about, you said that Conditions are becoming more favorable for A and D or for acquisition opportunities in Kern County. And This looks like a good deal, this McPherson deal, but can you elaborate a bit on What are the prospects for more opportunities like this coming your way? Yes. Speaker 200:10:12This is a very good question, Charles. In California, in particular, we're seeing a renewed interest in M and A opportunities, especially with the current regulatory environment. Groups are willing to have a conversation now more than before, and we are very active in those conversations with several parties. We believe the future of California is consolidation in order for industry to be able to achieve those synergies, those operational synergies available. And we as Berry want to be that company that leading company that consolidates assets. Speaker 200:10:49Obviously, we continue to evaluate producing properties in Kern County, but also in Utah and other places. In all cases, properties that would align with our strategy to maximize shareholder returns, We are looking at opportunities to be able to keep production flat or even increase production in some cases. We are focusing on areas where we can see immediate operational synergies and areas where we can apply some of our proven technologies to be able to enhance the So we're very active currently, Charles, looking at different opportunities, but this is the time. Speaker 400:11:33Got it. So just to push on that a little bit more, if I understand you right or if I understand correctly, Just something along the lines of these are family owned businesses, probably family operated and They've been doing the same sorts of projects for years and now because The regulatory environment has maybe shut some of those activities down. There It's kind of forcing a reevaluation of their strategic direction. Is that am I understanding correctly or along the right lines? Speaker 200:12:13Yes, you're correct in that assumption. A lot of the smaller companies are kind of reevaluating their businesses Now with the current environment, but again, we're looking at not only some of the smaller players, but looking at different sized companies or opportunities as well. Speaker 400:12:30Got it. Got it. Okay. Thank you. And then maybe just a second follow-up then. Speaker 400:12:36So obviously, this is this MacPherson is It's in your wheelhouse in Kern County, but most of my understanding is most of your Production, not all, but most is more Western Bakersfield, whereas your existing Postle Creek and this McPherson is more north of Bakersfield. So Are there how is the opportunity set different or perhaps better With these assets since you're kind of waiting up in this area? Speaker 200:13:12We see opportunities Both on the eastern side of Kern County, which is the case of McPherson and also the western side of Kern County Where most of our operations are. So we are talking to folks on both sides. Now Macpherson, as you know, is fairly close to our postal field. So we're going to be able to realize some synergies just Because of economies of scale. But we are seeing opportunities in both sides of the basin, and we're Actively looking at everything. Speaker 400:13:52Got it. I'll let someone else hop in and I'll hop back in the queue. Operator00:14:14Our next question comes from the line of Tim Chahart from BEROS Investment Management. The line is now yours. Speaker 500:14:23Hi, good morning. Just curious if I'm sure you're aware of California Resources and their efforts To more or less split their company into 2 businesses, E and P on one side and Carbon Management On the other, is that structure at all relevant to you in your assets since you operate in somewhat Similar proximity to where they are? Speaker 200:14:57Yes. Very, very good question, Tim. And the big difference Between CRC and us is really size. Our goal when it comes to ESG in particular is to be a good corporate citizen and to be able to minimize Environmental impact. As far as carbon capture projects, we want to be more of a follower than a leader. Speaker 200:15:17So we are talking to different parties about the possibility of collecting our emissions and delivering those emissions to a third party. But we don't we just simply don't have the size to be able to have our own project like CRC. Speaker 500:15:34And it seems like they're bringing in outside capital via partnership. So in other words, I don't think they're handling it all on their own. But I'm just I guess you've answered the question, but I'm just pointing out that, Yes, they're larger, but there's also outside capital that's looking for things like this. Can I ask you a separate Question whether there's been any change in the court process with Kern County timetable With the appellate court system or anything along those lines that you can offer color to? Speaker 200:16:12Yes, sure, Tim. The permitting situation really hasn't changed Since last time we reported with the court issuing a stay back in January, as you know, now the appeal process It is underway and the court is expected the court process is expected to take a few months. So we're expecting To have a ruling at the end of the year, beginning of next year, we're confident that the courts will reinstate the Current company EIR, although that is obviously a risk and it's not a given, but we'll be ready for that. We've got several we've got on the order of 84 Current county permits, county cards as they call them, ready to go when that happens. But for now, there's really been no additional movement Beyond what I just talked about. Speaker 500:17:02I see. Thanks for your time. Operator00:17:07Thank you. I'm showing no further questions. So at this time, I would now like to turn the conference back over to CEO, Fernando Araujo, for closing remarks. Speaker 200:17:40Well, thank you everyone for attending and be safe and until next time. We're Operator00:17:55This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. 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There are 6 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:05Welcome to the Berry Corporation Q2 2023 Earnings Call. At this time, all participants are in listen only mode. After the speakers' presentation, there will be a question and answer Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Todd Crabtree, Head of Investor Relations. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:39Thank you, Gerald, and welcome, everyone, and thank you for joining us for Berry's 2nd quarter 2020 3 earnings teleconference. Earlier today, Berry issued an earnings release highlighting 2023 second quarter results. Speaking this morning will be Fernando Araujo, our Chief Executive Officer and Mike Helm, our Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, I would like to call your attention to Safe Harbor language found in our earnings release that was issued this morning. This release and today's discussion contain certain projections and other forward looking statements within the meaning of federal securities laws. Speaker 100:01:13These statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially from those expressed or implied in These include risks and other factors outlined in our filings with the SEC, including our 10 Q, which will be filed later today. Our website, by.com, has a link to the earnings release and our most recent investor presentation. Any information, including forward looking statements Made on this call or contained in the earnings release and that presentation reflects our analysis as of the date made. We have no plans or duty to update them except as required by law. Please refer to the tables in our earnings release and on our website for a reconciliation between all adjusted measures mentioned in today's call and the related GAAP measures. Speaker 100:02:00We will also post the replay link of this call and the transcript on our website. I will now turn the call over to Fernando. Speaker 200:02:07Thanks, Todd. Welcome everyone and thank you for joining us. In the Q2, we successfully executed on our Our operational and financial performance was strong and we delivered on all fronts. We are excited about our pending acquisition of MacPherson Energy Corporation, which is on track to close late in the Q3. This is another step in achieving our important objective of acquiring accretive producing bolt ons. Speaker 200:02:39We currently anticipate that our full year 2023 results from our current operations will be in line with previous guidance Except with respect to capital expenditures, we expect 2023 capital expenditures to be approximately 35,000,000 lower than initial guidance. This is a result of the reallocation of capital used to fund a portion of the MacPherson transaction. We will fully update guidance in connection with the transaction flows. We delivered nearly 7 or more than 1600 barrels per day higher production volumes quarter over quarter, and we accomplished this with less capital than planned. We expect annual production from our current operations to be at or above the midpoint of our initial guidance. Speaker 200:03:26Our base production, which is expected to account for more than 95% of our total 2023 production is outperforming plan. This is mainly due to the implementation of an optimized steam injection strategy in our California fields. This is a great example of what I mean when I use the term operational excellence. The balance of production comes From our successful workover and sidetrack campaign, part of the production gain in Q2 was related to recovering deferred production from Q1. Our ongoing commitment is to maximize shareholder returns while ensuring that we remain a responsible and safe producer. Speaker 200:04:06In accordance with our shareholder return model, this quarter we will pay total dividends of $0.14 per share between fixed and variable. This is in line with our goal to deliver a 2023 cash return in the high single digits based on our current stock price. Additionally, we opportunistically repurchased $10,000,000 of our common stock during the Q2. We recently announced that we've entered into an agreement to acquire McPherson Energy Corporation, a privately held Kern County operator for $70,000,000 in cash. This transaction improves capital efficiency and reallocates capital with 80% of the purchase price funded with $35,000,000 from our planned 2023 capital expenditures, plus expected cash flows from the acquired assets in 2023 2024. Speaker 200:04:59Based on current projections and $75 per barrel Brent pricing, the adjusted free cash flow delivered by the combined company After the transaction is fully paid for in 2024, is expected to be 15% to 25% greater than Berry without Macpherson. In Fusion assets, which are high quality, low decline producing properties are a natural fit with our existing rural Kern County portfolio. In addition to the attractive base production, we see upside for near term production enhancement and development opportunities by utilizing existing Wild Wars. This is a value creating transaction for Berry and its shareholders reflective of our disciplined capital return strategy. We are ideally positioned to capture future consolidation opportunities. Speaker 200:05:48I will now turn the call over to Mike. Speaker 300:05:51Thank you, Fernando. As always, more information is available in our earnings release issued this morning and in our 10 Q filing available later today. Here are a few highlights. Our financial and operational results were strong this quarter. Adjusted EBITDA totaled $69,000,000 compared to $59,000,000 for the Q1. Speaker 300:06:10This 17% increase despite the lower oil prices is primarily due to higher production and lower lease operating expenses. Lease operating expenses, including the effect of gas purchase hedges, decreased 23% from Q1, most of which is attributable to the lower fuel costs and lower lease maintenance costs. We also continue to implement ongoing cost reduction initiatives during the quarter, some of which are beginning to bear fruit entering the second half of the year. An example of this is the completion of the solar project at our South Belle Rouge property, which in addition to reducing our carbon footprint is expected to reduce our annual power costs by about $300,000 Adjusted G and A expenses were down slightly compared to the Q1 And we expect to see continued improvement throughout the rest of the year. 2nd quarter adjusted free cash flow was $34,000,000 which after taking into account the use of working capital in the Q1 resulted in a cumulative net adjusted free cash flow of $7,000,000 for the first half of Accordingly, we have declared a variable dividend of $0.02 per share in addition to the quarterly fixed dividend of $0.12 per share. Speaker 300:07:27As a reminder, our shareholder return model is based on annual adjusted free cash flow calculated after the payment of the fixed dividend, 20% of which is earmarked for variable dividends. The remaining 80% is intended for opportunistic debt and stock repurchases as well as strategic growth and the acquisition of producing bolt ons. Berry was active with share buybacks in the 2nd quarter, Repurchasing around 1,400,000 shares in the open market for approximately $10,000,000 at an average price of $7.04 per share. We have an additional $190,000,000 authorized for future stock buybacks and $75,000,000 authorized for debt repurchases. To summarize, Berry is hitting its operational and financial targets and is well positioned for continued success maximizing shareholder returns. Speaker 300:08:15Back to you, Commander. Speaker 200:08:17Thanks, Mike. In closing, our 2nd quarter results have delivered on our commitment to maximize shareholder returns and achieve operational excellence. We are on track to meet our annual production goals with less capital spend and decreasing operating expenses. We are confident in our ability to enhance free cash flow and shareholder returns going forward. We believe that Current industry and market conditions are favorable for M and A and the MacPherson acquisition is evidence of that. Speaker 200:08:48Berry remains well positioned to be a consolidator We are actively pursuing other opportunities that align with our strategy to maximize shareholder value. With that, I will now turn the call over to the operator for questions. Operator00:09:04Thank you. We will now conduct a question and answer session. Please standby while we compile the Q and A roster. Our first question comes from the line of Charles Meade with Johnson Rice. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 400:09:35Good morning, Fernando, Mike and the rest of the Berry team. Fernando, I want to pick up Exactly where you left off there with your prepared comments about, you said that Conditions are becoming more favorable for A and D or for acquisition opportunities in Kern County. And This looks like a good deal, this McPherson deal, but can you elaborate a bit on What are the prospects for more opportunities like this coming your way? Yes. Speaker 200:10:12This is a very good question, Charles. In California, in particular, we're seeing a renewed interest in M and A opportunities, especially with the current regulatory environment. Groups are willing to have a conversation now more than before, and we are very active in those conversations with several parties. We believe the future of California is consolidation in order for industry to be able to achieve those synergies, those operational synergies available. And we as Berry want to be that company that leading company that consolidates assets. Speaker 200:10:49Obviously, we continue to evaluate producing properties in Kern County, but also in Utah and other places. In all cases, properties that would align with our strategy to maximize shareholder returns, We are looking at opportunities to be able to keep production flat or even increase production in some cases. We are focusing on areas where we can see immediate operational synergies and areas where we can apply some of our proven technologies to be able to enhance the So we're very active currently, Charles, looking at different opportunities, but this is the time. Speaker 400:11:33Got it. So just to push on that a little bit more, if I understand you right or if I understand correctly, Just something along the lines of these are family owned businesses, probably family operated and They've been doing the same sorts of projects for years and now because The regulatory environment has maybe shut some of those activities down. There It's kind of forcing a reevaluation of their strategic direction. Is that am I understanding correctly or along the right lines? Speaker 200:12:13Yes, you're correct in that assumption. A lot of the smaller companies are kind of reevaluating their businesses Now with the current environment, but again, we're looking at not only some of the smaller players, but looking at different sized companies or opportunities as well. Speaker 400:12:30Got it. Got it. Okay. Thank you. And then maybe just a second follow-up then. Speaker 400:12:36So obviously, this is this MacPherson is It's in your wheelhouse in Kern County, but most of my understanding is most of your Production, not all, but most is more Western Bakersfield, whereas your existing Postle Creek and this McPherson is more north of Bakersfield. So Are there how is the opportunity set different or perhaps better With these assets since you're kind of waiting up in this area? Speaker 200:13:12We see opportunities Both on the eastern side of Kern County, which is the case of McPherson and also the western side of Kern County Where most of our operations are. So we are talking to folks on both sides. Now Macpherson, as you know, is fairly close to our postal field. So we're going to be able to realize some synergies just Because of economies of scale. But we are seeing opportunities in both sides of the basin, and we're Actively looking at everything. Speaker 400:13:52Got it. I'll let someone else hop in and I'll hop back in the queue. Operator00:14:14Our next question comes from the line of Tim Chahart from BEROS Investment Management. The line is now yours. Speaker 500:14:23Hi, good morning. Just curious if I'm sure you're aware of California Resources and their efforts To more or less split their company into 2 businesses, E and P on one side and Carbon Management On the other, is that structure at all relevant to you in your assets since you operate in somewhat Similar proximity to where they are? Speaker 200:14:57Yes. Very, very good question, Tim. And the big difference Between CRC and us is really size. Our goal when it comes to ESG in particular is to be a good corporate citizen and to be able to minimize Environmental impact. As far as carbon capture projects, we want to be more of a follower than a leader. Speaker 200:15:17So we are talking to different parties about the possibility of collecting our emissions and delivering those emissions to a third party. But we don't we just simply don't have the size to be able to have our own project like CRC. Speaker 500:15:34And it seems like they're bringing in outside capital via partnership. So in other words, I don't think they're handling it all on their own. But I'm just I guess you've answered the question, but I'm just pointing out that, Yes, they're larger, but there's also outside capital that's looking for things like this. Can I ask you a separate Question whether there's been any change in the court process with Kern County timetable With the appellate court system or anything along those lines that you can offer color to? Speaker 200:16:12Yes, sure, Tim. The permitting situation really hasn't changed Since last time we reported with the court issuing a stay back in January, as you know, now the appeal process It is underway and the court is expected the court process is expected to take a few months. So we're expecting To have a ruling at the end of the year, beginning of next year, we're confident that the courts will reinstate the Current company EIR, although that is obviously a risk and it's not a given, but we'll be ready for that. We've got several we've got on the order of 84 Current county permits, county cards as they call them, ready to go when that happens. But for now, there's really been no additional movement Beyond what I just talked about. Speaker 500:17:02I see. Thanks for your time. Operator00:17:07Thank you. I'm showing no further questions. So at this time, I would now like to turn the conference back over to CEO, Fernando Araujo, for closing remarks. Speaker 200:17:40Well, thank you everyone for attending and be safe and until next time. We're Operator00:17:55This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may nowRead moreRemove AdsPowered by