NASDAQ:IMXI International Money Express Q2 2023 Earnings Report $3.44 -1.93 (-35.94%) As of 04/15/2025 04:00 PM Eastern Earnings HistoryForecast Applied Digital EPS ResultsActual EPS$0.46Consensus EPS $0.48Beat/MissMissed by -$0.02One Year Ago EPSN/AApplied Digital Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$169.15 millionExpected Revenue$171.35 millionBeat/MissMissed by -$2.20 millionYoY Revenue GrowthN/AApplied Digital Announcement DetailsQuarterQ2 2023Date8/2/2023TimeN/AConference Call DateWednesday, August 2, 2023Conference Call Time9:00AM ETConference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Applied Digital Q2 2023 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrAugust 2, 2023 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 8 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good day, and welcome to the International Money Express Inc. 2nd Quarter 2023 Conference Call. All participants will be in listen only mode. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. Please note this event is being recorded. Operator00:00:34I would now like to turn the conference over to Mr. Mike Galentine. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:43Good morning, and welcome to our quarterly earnings call. I would like to remind everyone that Today's call includes forward looking statements, including our Q3 and full year 2023 guidance, and actual results may differ materially from expectations. For additional information on International Money Express, which we refer to as Intermex or the company. Please see our SEC filings, including the risk factors described therein. All forward looking statements on this call are based on assumptions and beliefs as of today. Speaker 100:01:21You should not rely on our forward looking statements as predictions of Please refer to slide 2 of our presentation for a brief description of certain forward looking statements. The company undertakes no obligation to update such information except as required by applicable law. On this conference call, we discuss certain non GAAP financial measures. Information required by Regulation G under the Securities and Exchange Act Such non GAAP financial measures is included in the presentation slides, our earnings press release and our annual report on Form 10 ks, including reconciliation of certain non GAAP financial measures to the appropriate GAAP measures. These can be obtained in the Investors section of our website at intermexonline.com. Speaker 100:02:14Presenting on today's call is our Chairman, Chief Executive Officer and President, Bob Lisi and Chief Financial Officer, Andres Bendy. Also on the call today Are Chris Hunt, Chief Operating Officer Joseph Aguilar, President, Latin America Randy Nelson, Chief Revenue Officer and Marcelo Theodoro, Chief Digital Officer. Let me now turn the call over Speaker 200:02:40to Bob. Good morning and thank you for joining. We appreciate your interest in Intermex. We had a solid quarter of growth as we continue to build upon the sustained track record of multiyear expansion, and we continue the profitable integration of both Le Nationale and iTransfers acquisitions. On Slide 3, revenue increased 23.5 percent to $169,200,000 Net income was $15,400,000 a decrease of 3.5 percent, while EPS increased 2.4 to $0.42 a share. Speaker 200:03:21Adjusted net income was $18,400,000 up 0.6 percent And adjusted EPS increased 6.4 percent to $0.50 per share. EBITDA increased 11.7% to $30,900,000 Our CFO, Anders Mendy, will provide a more detailed analysis of these metrics during His prepared remarks. While we continue to achieve our aspirations of double digit EBITDA growth, our results reflect the challenges of traversing some top line headwinds. We have seen a slowdown in year over year growth to Latin America and the Caribbean markets, and this has stimulated increased price discounting in the marketplace. These challenges have emerged as we focus on the integration of a valuable acquisition that has made us a stronger company to Latin America and expanded our footprint into dozens of additional profitable corridors in Europe and Asia. Speaker 200:04:16After several years of overall market growing in the middle teens And above, the year over year growth, although still positive, has slowed. During the Q2 of 2023, through May, based on the latest available data, The top 5 countries in Laca, Mexico, Guatemala, El Salvador, Honduras and the Dominican Republic grew at a much lower rate than they did a year ago. As a result of this market slowdown, numerous competitors have resorted to more aggressive discounting, primarily in the form of reducing FX gains to attempt to We have experienced this phenomenon in the past, but this round has been a bit deeper and longer sustained than previously experienced. As a high quality service provider in the industry, we are evaluating and modifying our pricing position to find the optimal price point to maximize profitability. It is not our intent or strategy to align our price with the discounters, but we will be more aggressive in an efficient and strategic way that maximizes growth. Speaker 200:05:17Ultimately, we believe the pricing pressures will subside. In the meantime, we will execute a modified plan that enables us to capture share in the current environment. We have created a strong business that has generated double digit revenues, earnings and cash growth to deliver long term shareholder value for years. In the prior 3 years that ended 2022, the business generated $150,000,000 in net free cash. This strong free cash performance continues in 2023, where we expect to produce more than $70,000,000 in free cash. Speaker 200:05:51Today, Intermex has nearly $100,000,000 of available cash, which enables us to invest in future growth by expanding our business in multiple areas Like our presence in Europe, the acceleration of our digital business, our card products and potential acquisitions. Our unique value added model has attracted an increasing number of consumers from the Latin American community who rely on Intermex for their money transfer needs because of the quality of the experience and the trust we have gained. Our customer focused Omnichannel business model utilizes superior technology and operating infrastructure that is difficult to replicate. Powered by our state of the art proprietary technology, we deliver value added services to our customers through our extensive network of highly productive retail agents. We are confident that the differentiated business model we have built will prevail and sustain itself through any short term disruptions, and Intermex will emerge as an even stronger, more successful company as we have done throughout our history. Speaker 200:06:53On Slide 4, as we noted in the Q1 earnings call, The La Nationale acquisition has resulted in us reassessing how we discuss market share from the U. S. To Latin America. In our market share analysis, we now include the top 5 countries in Latin America and the Caribbean, of which the Dominican Republic is a part. These countries collectively account for 82% of the money sent from the U. Speaker 200:07:16S. To that region. With the inclusion of Le National, our estimated market share in in the Q2 of 2022, further solidifying our position as one of the leading remittance providers in that market. A significant opportunity exists in the U. S. Speaker 200:07:41Markets to drive continued growth in market share. Our priority is to expand our footprint in the most populated foreign born Hispanic ZIP Codes, both with Intermex as well as our La Nationale brand. Based on the foreign born population, from the La Nationale footprint, we see Tremendous opportunity for expansion across the East Coast. Additionally, a total of over 2,000 ZIP Codes representing an opportunity of 1,500,000 wires per month exists in the Intermex business. In an effort to more aggressively target this market, We have restructured our Intermec sales force. Speaker 200:08:16We have added a 6th region and a new regional sales director. Additionally, we have created 10 new sales districts to address the unserved opportunity. We also restructured the Nationale Sales team to better capture these opportunities. Historically, most of our transaction growth is produced by the same store locations with the balance Coming from new agents. As important as same store performance is to growth, the recruitment of new stores may be even more impactful. Speaker 200:08:47A new agent retailer creates incremental transactions in year 1. Additionally, that retailer will grow by even larger percentages In year 23, a continued pipeline of quality, new agents is critical to new store performance, but even more important, the same store growth over time. We are confident that based on Intermex's superior service, our share of remittances within the store will grow as we become the preferred provider over time. To ensure the company maintains the pipeline of new agents to drive future growth, we continually review and analyze Our field productivity metrics to ensure we allocate resources most effectively and cost efficiently. Additionally, we set agent recruitment targets down to the ZIP code level, but this is only the start. Speaker 200:09:38Within each of those ZIP codes, Our recent realignment, complete with an increase in regions and sales district, will position the company to better access these market opportunities. Turning to La Nacional. With the completion of the acquisition, we're actively integrating Land's U. S. Business according to our plans. Speaker 200:10:07We're also starting to capitalize on the significant opportunities that lie ahead in Europe with iTransf. We're investing significant time evaluating the opportunity in Europe, We believe the business unit has significant opportunity for outsized growth over the next several years. This opportunity exists both at retail and on the online digital side, further accentuating our omnichannel approach. In the Q2, iTransfers business grew Approximately 14% in revenue and grew approximately 70% in EBITDA. This business unit has an excellent foundation, and we feel With one company store in Germany. Speaker 200:10:55In the middle run, we will look to grow these countries out and expand to France, the U. K. And other opportunities. As we mentioned previously, we believe that the Europe market will present a big opportunity to grow digital online wires as well. There will be more to come relative to Europe, We see a tremendous future here. Speaker 200:11:15Simultaneously, as we seize the opportunity in Europe, we have made significant progress Integrating and rightsizing La Nationale's U. S.-based business. The upside potential for La Nationale in the U. S. Lies in rightsizing the retail network And maximizing efficiencies while expanding our presence in ZIP Codes along the East Coast that are currently unserved. Speaker 200:11:36On Monday, we announced a restructuring of the U. S. Business, which will result in approximately $1,500,000 in annual savings starting in 3rd quarter. Andres will provide more insight into 3rd quarter restructuring charges incurred that would trigger the $1,500,000 in annual savings. The growth ahead of us will be driven by careful disciplined operating rigor and bringing Intermec's agent recruitment, agent performance model To this business unit, there are many opportunities to expand La Nationale's footprint into new ZIP Codes. Speaker 200:12:09With our formalized restructuring plan, we are confident that we will achieve a 9% to 11% EBITDA margin run rate by late 2023 or early 2024. Le Nationale has proven to be a valuable asset for Intermex, and we're just beginning to unlock its full potential. We believe the combination Of increased profitability of Le Nationale in the U. S, coupled with the significant growth opportunities of eye transfer in Europe We'll translate into 100 of 1,000,000 of dollars of revenue and tens of 1,000,000 of dollars of EBITDA and free cash from these properties over the coming years. Among the other areas we are optimistic about are our payroll and GPR cards. Speaker 200:12:52These will both compete in large attractive markets. The payroll card is a part of a $100,000,000,000 plus market and the GPR market is approximately double that size. Intermix has a significant distribution advantage due to our existing network of high traffic retailers and our check direct service that we provide to many of our Agent Partners. We have a great line of sight to the employers of our customer base. We can then target those companies to demonstrate and feel we are well positioned to launch our upgraded payroll card to the market later this year. Speaker 200:13:36We can also leverage a similar distribution advantage with our GPR card. Our retail sales can leverage the relationships that exist with independent retailers And effectively demonstrate the benefits of adding our GPR card at their retail locations. We are adding a new program manager for the card product We are well positioned for meaningful growth in 2024 and beyond. Lastly, our digital business continues to grow at a high rate. We grew at a rate of 63% in 2nd quarter. Speaker 200:14:15We're also delighted that our updated application has been receiving high marks from our users. A great opportunity for growth exists with Intermec's digital business as well as our wires as a service product in which we co brand or co host with a partner. In summary, it has been another great quarter of double digit EBITDA growth. There is much to be optimistic about in our business. We continue to deliver strong EBITDA numbers with a high conversion to free cash. Speaker 200:14:46That adds to our already strong balance sheet where we have a base of $100,000,000 of available cash to invest in our business. Growth opportunities abound whether it is through our modified approach to retail with our Intermex business, reorganizing of the Nationale Business Unit Or the tremendous opportunity for growth that our EU license provides for us with e transfer. Additionally, we are excited about our Continued sales growth in our digital online business and the prospects for our wireless as a service offering, along with the opportunity to launch our online offering in Europe. Lastly, we believe we have made significant progress with our 2 card products and look for each of them to be meaningful revenue and profit streams in the future. With that, I'll turn the call over to Andres, who will drill down to the numbers and offer his perspective on 2nd quarter operating performance. Speaker 200:15:40Andres? Speaker 300:15:41Thank you. As Bob mentioned, we had another quarter of double digit EBITDA growth. Still, our overall results were a little short of our expectations, Driven by a slowdown in market growth, the pricing dynamic in the markets that Bob mentioned earlier and several unhelpful items that converged during Q2 to make The objectives just that much more difficult to achieve. A large stolen safe, an agent that levered up for Mother's Day and absconded And a settlement of a long standing HR litigation in California are just a few that worked against us in Q2. On slide 5, the number of unique active customers increased by 41.1% during the Q2 to 4,200,000. Speaker 300:16:20These customers generated a record 15,100,000 remittance transactions, 26.7% more than a year ago. This represents about 6.3% growth in transactions in our core business, plus the contribution of La Nacional's U. S. And international businesses. On slide 6, we achieved a 63% increase in digitally originated transactions as strong customer acceptance of our mobile app continues. Speaker 300:16:46Moreover, we achieved this growth while being good stewards of the company's capital, not chasing customers with significant marketing spend that has an unproven payback. From a send and receive standpoint, 31% of our transactions are either sent or received digitally, up 4 80 basis points from a year ago. On slide 7, the total principal transferred grew 19.5 percent to $6,400,000,000 driven by our core business and the addition of La Nacional's U. S. And international businesses. Speaker 300:17:18The average remittance within our U. S. Core Intermex business was consistent with the prior year. It was $4.47 precisely the same send amount it was in Q2 2022. In the consolidated business, the average send amount was down 5.6% for the quarter year over year at $4.22 per transaction. Speaker 300:17:39This is influenced by the average transaction amounts in our La Nacional U. S. And Europe businesses, which are structurally lower. La Nationale U. S. Speaker 300:17:47Is currently at $2.97 and Europe at $2.70 bringing the business average to $422,000,000 for the quarter. On slide 8, total revenues companywide increased 23.5% year over year Reaching $169,200,000 during the 1st 3 months. Excluding acquisitions, revenue growth in our core business was 6.7% fueled by organic customer additions through new and existing agents. Our core revenue growth dipped below the double digit level Quarter impacted by the market slowdown and the current pricing environment. Our digital business is contributing an ever increasing share of revenue. Speaker 300:18:28While still in the single digits, we continue to thoughtfully pace spending around our app and online offerings to match or stay ahead of consumer acceptance. We're successfully growing the digital business efficiently and profitably with the revenue contribution from digitally originated transactions Up just under 58% year on year in the Q2. We keep a tight pulse on consumer behavior, which positions us to invest in digital intelligently, ensuring the unique economics supported. Net income was impacted by a few key areas, top line growth slowing, Our credit facility and depreciation and intangibles amortization. The latter is driven from M and A activity, but also from hardware upgrades and Some accelerated depreciation as we transition to a new headquarters building at year end. Speaker 300:19:19Higher effective tax rate mostly acquisition related Also kept growth in check when it comes to net income. Net income was down 3.5 percent at 15,400,000 Though GAAP EPS was better up 2.4 percent to $0.42 a share aided by our share buybacks. We'll see these same factors flow through Looking at slide 9, adjusted EBITDA increased 11.7 percent to 30,900,000 Also impacted by the slower revenue growth and the inclusion of La Nacional business where margins are structurally lower. Note that as the top line in the core business slowed, we have and will continue to aggressively control costs, which is what allowed us to again achieve Double digit EBITDA quarter. Adjusted net income was up 0.6% during the Q2 to $18,400,000 Impacted by the same underlying drivers as GAAP net income, but excluding items like share based compensation, transaction related expenses and amortization of intangibles and the tax impact related to those items. Speaker 300:20:26From an adjusted EPS perspective, we were up 6.4% to $0.50 a share. Turning to the balance sheet on slide 10. Intermex continues to be an efficient operator in cash generation. The company ended the quarter on a Friday, Peak activity for our business where you would have seen the revolver drawn on the balance sheet to the tune of $116,000,000 from our credit line. Net free cash generated, our internal measure, which excludes working capital cyclicality, dipped a bit to $13,000,000 in Q2. Speaker 300:20:57However, if you exclude the $5,500,000 net cash attributable to the closing of iTransferenthe2nd quarter, Net free cash generated is closer to $18,500,000 a 7% increase from Q2 2022. During the quarter, we continue to be active in the market purchasing 416,000 shares for $10,000,000 at an average price of $24 per share This is a Board authorized repurchase program. Additionally, we repurchased 500,000 shares from one of our beneficial stockholders $25.28 per share, a 4% discount to the market price on the day of the transaction. The negotiated transaction totaled $12,600,000 paid with cash on hand. We continue to see our buyback program as an excellent use of capital and anticipate On slide 11, as a result of the slower market growth we're seeing, coupled with the price discounting in the market, We're adjusting our guidance for the full year. Speaker 300:21:58As mentioned in the Q1 earnings call, we're transitioning from net income to EPS guidance for the remainder of the year. Additionally, as Bob mentioned, we'll record a restructuring charge in the Q3 for Lenacinil. We expect this will be approximately $600,000 which is captured within this guidance. As discussed, this restructure will generate over $1,500,000 And annualized savings beginning in September. Our new guidance is as follows. Speaker 300:22:26For the full year, revenue $644,900,000 to $673,000,000 diluted GAAP EPS of $1.56 to 1 point $114,800,000 to $119,800,000 For the Q3, we expect the following: Revenue of $165,700,000 to $176,800,000 GAAP diluted EPS of $0.40 to $0.43 a share, adjusted diluted EPS of $0.49 to $0.52 a share And adjusted EBITDA of $30,000,000 to $32,000,000 In summary, we continue to execute and Retooling to grow the Intermex core through the current market dynamics. At the same time, we're defining the path to 10x for Europe, Positioning a size up card in digital and driving efficiency to perpetuate a strong EBITDA growth trajectory for La Operator00:24:01Your question has been answered. The first question comes from the line of Mike Grodahl with Northland Securities. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:24:23Hey, guys. Thank you. Could you talk a little bit more about The U. S. Sales force and it sounded like you restructured it, you created a 6th region And I think you said added 10 districts. Speaker 400:24:42What about just the number of salespeople? Kind of how has that trended and how do you think that's sort of feeding the agent pipeline that you mentioned? Speaker 200:24:53Yes. So thank you, Mike, for that question. So we're doing a lot of things related to the sales force. I think As we've talked about many times, we've seen over the years, challenges arise relative to the market pricing It typically happens as the market slows down a bit, as we've seen. The growth in the market has gone from last year, in 2nd quarter at about 15% to Mexico to 8%. Speaker 200:25:19So when that happens, we see a greater push from particularly people that are discounters And in the marketplace with lower prices that caused a little bit more friction for our business. In response to that, We decided to add a 6th region. That region is added in sort of the Southwest, so that we have more emphasis now in terms of folks Focusing on the business in the Western States and then created those additional districts. In the past, we've had, at times more what we called regional sales executives, which were people that were roving, and had bigger geographies in which they could sell in. We didn't feel we got the return on investment for those. Speaker 200:26:00We feel like it's best when someone has a distinct geography, and that's why we created the additional sales districts. Now in addition to that, we're spending a lot of time looking at the markets where we have a lower market share and a huge opportunity on the upside And looking at our pricing related to those. And as I said in the opening remarks, we're not joining the force Of being a discounter by any stretch of the imagination, at the same time, we will be more aggressive at retail Where we're not necessarily excelling because there's not a lot for us to lose there, meaning there's not a big base of business We'd be discounting. There'd be a bigger base of business to acquire. So all of those things together with more salespeople, More people dedicated to specific geographies, much more strategically placed with a different approach to the market Particularly related to those areas where our market share would be, let's say, less than 10%, and even there are some pockets where it might be less than 5%, a lot of places where we have a market share of 30% or 40%. Speaker 200:27:06So we'll focus a little different kind of energy and pricing in those areas that have great opportunity for the upside. Speaker 400:27:13Got it. And then maybe just secondly, how would you describe the pricing challenges or pricing pressure? Is that a couple percentage points of overall growth? Like is there any way you can frame that a little bit? Speaker 200:27:30Yes. I mean, I think anything I would be guessing at, right, to say, well, it's this percentage of growth or whatever. I think what happens is when people, Particularly the smaller providers that general MO to start is to discount. When they see a marketplace slow down, their immediate reaction is the more exaggerated approach to what they normally do, which is to discount. And so we're seeing that in a number of areas. Speaker 200:27:57But in some other areas, we also see opportunities because even those discounters have markets where they need to be able to make money, and we need to attack those. So it's hard to put a number on it. We think that clearly though, what I talked about rather than we've always made our Success by focusing on what we do best rather than just worrying about what the marketplace is doing. And from our perspective, We still have all of those ZIP codes we talked about, 2,000 that are under served or un served that we could gain about 1,500,000 And that's only by getting about a 15% to 20% share in those zip codes, which is very much below where our best zip codes perform. And so really, that's the area that we need to focus on. Speaker 200:28:41Now what will be different because we've talked about that in the past. One thing that will be different is we'll have more dedicated people to Speaker 100:28:46those geographies. And 2, our sort of approach to the market Speaker 200:28:47is going to And 2, our sort of approach to the market is going to be different, where a gross margin, meaning what we get after we Again, the fee and the FX minus what we pay the agent and the payer, we're willing to take a lower ultimate gross margin To gain wires in this more competitive time, we're not going to wait it out as I don't want to say as passively, but as confidently as we have in We'll be a little bit more proactive, quite a bit more proactive. We still think it won't sustain itself. We know that one of the big discounters will be on the market for sale next year. One of them is on stuff out in the market for sale now, 2 private companies. And so they're very aggressive in a down market, And that's affecting the overall. Speaker 200:29:30And then what you see is even some of the public companies start to join in that discounting because they joined the fray. So we need to be able to address that as we're doing, but we also believe that there will be some relief in that over time because whoever Whenever these sales happen, usually what happens is there becomes a change in the approach to the market. Speaker 400:29:52Hey, thanks for that color, Bob. Speaker 500:29:55Welcome. Operator00:29:59The next question comes from the line of Mayank Tandon with Needham, please go ahead. Speaker 500:30:07Thank you. Good morning. Bob and Andres, I just wanted to get a better When the market began to slow down incrementally from the time you gave guidance back in May, like what really changed? Is it more just Pure macro? Or is there something else going on in the market beyond just the macro pressures? Speaker 200:30:25Well, the market Grew in last quarter at 12%, and it grew at 8% to Mexico, which is our core business. So that is something that happened at a greater level In the Q2 versus the Q1, we've seen some slowing, but it's been a bit sporadic. There's you can If you look at the numbers from Mexico, you'll see that sometimes you'll have an 8% growth month and then sometimes you'll have a 13% growth month, and it's been a bit sporadic. But the Quarter as a whole in 2nd quarter dropped about onethree from 12% growth to 8% growth, And that was not fully anticipated. We thought that probably 12% is about where it was going to land. Speaker 200:31:09So I think that impact Was what was not necessarily predicted. Speaker 500:31:16Understood. And then I just wanted to go back to the model. So as we look at the rest of the year, just The building blocks in terms of the numbers, what are the expectations for transaction growth and principal growth and remittance If you could just give us some sense of like what you have embedded in your guidance? Thank you. Speaker 300:31:36Yes. I would just speak from a trend this is Andres. From a transaction growth In the core, we're in conservatively around 5% growth in the core business. And what are the other factors that I could dimensionalize for you? Speaker 200:31:51Principal amount. Speaker 300:31:52Principal amount. I think principal amount we've held in the core as well, Steady year over year. We haven't modeled in any growth or haven't modeled in any attrition in that amount. Speaker 500:32:08And the remittance size would also be just given some of the headwinds you guys talked about, we expect the remittance size to also come down just for the back half of the year to reflect the updated guidance? Speaker 300:32:21Yes. I think it's not much. I mean, maybe a little less than 1% in terms of overall size, the part that's not impacted by The acquisition principal sizes. Speaker 500:32:34Okay. That's helpful. Thank you so much. Speaker 200:32:37Remember the peso is trading at its Strongest point, which we hadn't really talked about, but that many times has an effect on the principal amounts. You would think when you get less pesos on the other side of the border, People would tend to send more because they have a stable amount they need. But what happens is when the peso is usually weaker, If it's in the 20s, people send larger principal amounts because they feel like the peso is on sale and they send bigger Average transaction. So we're kind of the whole industry is kind of those headwinds where the peso has been stronger than it's been in a number of years now. Speaker 500:33:15That's great color. Thank you so much. Operator00:33:29The next question comes from the line of David Scharf with JMP. Please go ahead. Good morning. Speaker 200:33:37Good morning, David. Yes. Speaker 600:33:38Good morning. Thanks for taking my questions. Maybe just to follow-up a little more on the competitive Dynamic right now. Bob, you called out a couple private discounters. But taking a step back, and maybe compared to prior cycles, like you say, this ebbs and flows in terms of price competition, Are the pricing moves by competitors, would you describe them as fairly broad based Among most of the remittance providers you encounter in your stores or is it concentrated within a couple of discounters? Speaker 200:34:24So the question is not broad based geographically, but is it broad based within the competitors? Speaker 600:34:30Exactly. Is this something Speaker 200:34:32Yes, I would say that it is. I would say that it is. And one of the large publics with their second or flanker brand, however you want to Private, that's a deep discounter as well. And one of the other public companies is pretty aggressive as well. So I think it's We're probably, by ourselves as the guys holding the line more. Speaker 200:34:54Our margins have been relatively stable, which is really good news because it gives us Into Mexico of $5 or over $5 and I'm just using that as an example, I'm not quoting that number. And you go out and aggressively go after business that's at a much lower rate, Your blended gross margin is still quite attractive. So we've got a lot of headroom, and I think it's really, Other than us, relatively pervasive. A lot of markets where we have such a strong Position, in the Eastern States, for instance, and I won't name the states specifically, for strategic reasons, But it's harder for the competition to come in because we're so well entrenched. But where we're going in acquiring new business, And that's where I think our approach will change more because there's so much of an upside opportunity. Speaker 200:35:52You might look at a state in the West, Colorado, it has more foreign borns than a state like Georgia. We have a fraction of the business So our opportunity there where we have really strong margins is to be much more aggressive because the upside is really big for us. And that's Again, riding with the discounters. In some cases, we won't be at all. In some cases, our offering won't change at all because we don't really have an issue. Speaker 200:36:27But in other cases, we'll be much more aggressive. We're still going to ride on our value added service. The fact that We pick up our customer service line in 4 seconds that our technology works better and faster and more reliably than anyone else in the face to face transaction. The banking relationships, our Check Direct product, the quality of our customer service, all of those things, we're still going to sell on that value add, But we recognize that we might need to be a little closer to the discounters' prices in certain areas of the market for us to compete And grow again at rates that are in the teens. Speaker 600:37:03Got it. No, understood. And Okay. Couple of just follow ups on more on the operational side. First, the sales additions, can you provide some just context in terms of The addition of a new sales director or new region, new districts, Was this in the cards since the beginning of the year? Speaker 600:37:29Or have you accelerated any expansion plans on the kind of agent acquisition front in To what might be a persistent Speaker 200:37:41price Yes. I mean, I think We're constantly evolving, but the actual decision to add another Regional Director, a new region, happened probably in late sort of Q1, early second And added the person in late Q2. As far as the sales districts, which are Folks that are on the ground, the closest to our retailers, we just recognize the increased productivity of having folks having a signed geography Rather than selling on a floater basis, and when I say a floater, it doesn't mean all over the country, it just means that those what we call RSEs, Regional sales executives, they could sell maybe all over Southern California, but they didn't have accountability for geography. So we recognized that, that was not working, and we'd rather create more districts, which we think puts us in much better position To attack the marketplace with that geographical assignment. So that's really the move there. Speaker 200:38:46And it's I think It's been evolving, but I think it's mostly in response to the fact that we're seeing the market slow. We're seeing all the things we talked about. The Discounters become more aggressive in discounting. And our response to that in an effort to really drill down better into the market And grow our business in some of those areas where we have a really big upside and not really a big base of business And our willingness to do that in a way that we'll accept gross margins that probably were less than we accepted in the past, Still very profitable, but less than they've been in the past. Speaker 600:39:23Got it. Just to close out, I'm assuming based on Just 5% kind of organic transaction growth in the second half that the guidance reduction was Pretty much organic related. Was there any downward revision to the LN La Nacional Forecast is well embedded in the second half guidance reduction or was pretty much all the core business? Speaker 300:39:54No. It was pretty much Driven by the core business, I think La Nacional and Itransfer are doing what we expected them to do. And I think that restructuring activity that we talked about It's going to flow through nicely in the Q4 for La Nacional. So it's really driven by the quarter. Speaker 600:40:10Okay. Got it. Thanks so much. Thank Speaker 400:40:16you. Operator00:40:27The final question comes from the line of Chris Vank with Credit Suisse. Please go ahead. Speaker 700:40:35Hi, good morning. Thank you for taking my question. I have a question on the new Florida immigration law, so specifically the Senate Bill 1718, which was Passed in May and came into impact on July 1, have you seen any impact so far in the 1st month of implementation? And Speaker 200:41:02Yes. I think what we saw initially was a response that was relative to protest, Whether there'll be a long term effect or not, what we see usually when these things kind of happen is it sort of wanes over time and there's really not a big effect. We also will see, I think, in some of these cases where there's been difficulty in the past of a state making it more difficult For immigration is for farmers or those that need the labor to begin to work directly With the work Visa folks to be able to bring people in, on a more less undocumented basis In more documented basis, so there are lots of crops to pick in Florida, and we don't anticipate that in the long run that it's going to have a big impact. We've seen municipalities, not typically states, but municipalities do different things over time. We've even seen states put a tax on On remittances, on every remittance. Speaker 200:42:02And it's not had an impact over time because of the need for labor and the willingness of folks to provide it. So I think some short term kind of days of protest and stuff occurred, but I think it's too early to tell What's going on is we have a market that's slowing a bit anyway, so it's difficult to see, and we're not seeing Florida grow or slow At a rate that would be greater than the greater market, and we wouldn't expect that it would be something that would hamper the ability of People who require labor to hire it and labor who wants to provide labor to provide it. Speaker 700:42:40All right. Very helpful and very comprehensive. Thank you so much. Operator00:42:51I'll turn the conference back over to Bob Liffey for any closing remarks. Speaker 200:42:57Yes. Thank you all for joining us. We look forward to talking to you all soon. 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There are 8 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good day, and welcome to the International Money Express Inc. 2nd Quarter 2023 Conference Call. All participants will be in listen only mode. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. Please note this event is being recorded. Operator00:00:34I would now like to turn the conference over to Mr. Mike Galentine. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:43Good morning, and welcome to our quarterly earnings call. I would like to remind everyone that Today's call includes forward looking statements, including our Q3 and full year 2023 guidance, and actual results may differ materially from expectations. For additional information on International Money Express, which we refer to as Intermex or the company. Please see our SEC filings, including the risk factors described therein. All forward looking statements on this call are based on assumptions and beliefs as of today. Speaker 100:01:21You should not rely on our forward looking statements as predictions of Please refer to slide 2 of our presentation for a brief description of certain forward looking statements. The company undertakes no obligation to update such information except as required by applicable law. On this conference call, we discuss certain non GAAP financial measures. Information required by Regulation G under the Securities and Exchange Act Such non GAAP financial measures is included in the presentation slides, our earnings press release and our annual report on Form 10 ks, including reconciliation of certain non GAAP financial measures to the appropriate GAAP measures. These can be obtained in the Investors section of our website at intermexonline.com. Speaker 100:02:14Presenting on today's call is our Chairman, Chief Executive Officer and President, Bob Lisi and Chief Financial Officer, Andres Bendy. Also on the call today Are Chris Hunt, Chief Operating Officer Joseph Aguilar, President, Latin America Randy Nelson, Chief Revenue Officer and Marcelo Theodoro, Chief Digital Officer. Let me now turn the call over Speaker 200:02:40to Bob. Good morning and thank you for joining. We appreciate your interest in Intermex. We had a solid quarter of growth as we continue to build upon the sustained track record of multiyear expansion, and we continue the profitable integration of both Le Nationale and iTransfers acquisitions. On Slide 3, revenue increased 23.5 percent to $169,200,000 Net income was $15,400,000 a decrease of 3.5 percent, while EPS increased 2.4 to $0.42 a share. Speaker 200:03:21Adjusted net income was $18,400,000 up 0.6 percent And adjusted EPS increased 6.4 percent to $0.50 per share. EBITDA increased 11.7% to $30,900,000 Our CFO, Anders Mendy, will provide a more detailed analysis of these metrics during His prepared remarks. While we continue to achieve our aspirations of double digit EBITDA growth, our results reflect the challenges of traversing some top line headwinds. We have seen a slowdown in year over year growth to Latin America and the Caribbean markets, and this has stimulated increased price discounting in the marketplace. These challenges have emerged as we focus on the integration of a valuable acquisition that has made us a stronger company to Latin America and expanded our footprint into dozens of additional profitable corridors in Europe and Asia. Speaker 200:04:16After several years of overall market growing in the middle teens And above, the year over year growth, although still positive, has slowed. During the Q2 of 2023, through May, based on the latest available data, The top 5 countries in Laca, Mexico, Guatemala, El Salvador, Honduras and the Dominican Republic grew at a much lower rate than they did a year ago. As a result of this market slowdown, numerous competitors have resorted to more aggressive discounting, primarily in the form of reducing FX gains to attempt to We have experienced this phenomenon in the past, but this round has been a bit deeper and longer sustained than previously experienced. As a high quality service provider in the industry, we are evaluating and modifying our pricing position to find the optimal price point to maximize profitability. It is not our intent or strategy to align our price with the discounters, but we will be more aggressive in an efficient and strategic way that maximizes growth. Speaker 200:05:17Ultimately, we believe the pricing pressures will subside. In the meantime, we will execute a modified plan that enables us to capture share in the current environment. We have created a strong business that has generated double digit revenues, earnings and cash growth to deliver long term shareholder value for years. In the prior 3 years that ended 2022, the business generated $150,000,000 in net free cash. This strong free cash performance continues in 2023, where we expect to produce more than $70,000,000 in free cash. Speaker 200:05:51Today, Intermex has nearly $100,000,000 of available cash, which enables us to invest in future growth by expanding our business in multiple areas Like our presence in Europe, the acceleration of our digital business, our card products and potential acquisitions. Our unique value added model has attracted an increasing number of consumers from the Latin American community who rely on Intermex for their money transfer needs because of the quality of the experience and the trust we have gained. Our customer focused Omnichannel business model utilizes superior technology and operating infrastructure that is difficult to replicate. Powered by our state of the art proprietary technology, we deliver value added services to our customers through our extensive network of highly productive retail agents. We are confident that the differentiated business model we have built will prevail and sustain itself through any short term disruptions, and Intermex will emerge as an even stronger, more successful company as we have done throughout our history. Speaker 200:06:53On Slide 4, as we noted in the Q1 earnings call, The La Nationale acquisition has resulted in us reassessing how we discuss market share from the U. S. To Latin America. In our market share analysis, we now include the top 5 countries in Latin America and the Caribbean, of which the Dominican Republic is a part. These countries collectively account for 82% of the money sent from the U. Speaker 200:07:16S. To that region. With the inclusion of Le National, our estimated market share in in the Q2 of 2022, further solidifying our position as one of the leading remittance providers in that market. A significant opportunity exists in the U. S. Speaker 200:07:41Markets to drive continued growth in market share. Our priority is to expand our footprint in the most populated foreign born Hispanic ZIP Codes, both with Intermex as well as our La Nationale brand. Based on the foreign born population, from the La Nationale footprint, we see Tremendous opportunity for expansion across the East Coast. Additionally, a total of over 2,000 ZIP Codes representing an opportunity of 1,500,000 wires per month exists in the Intermex business. In an effort to more aggressively target this market, We have restructured our Intermec sales force. Speaker 200:08:16We have added a 6th region and a new regional sales director. Additionally, we have created 10 new sales districts to address the unserved opportunity. We also restructured the Nationale Sales team to better capture these opportunities. Historically, most of our transaction growth is produced by the same store locations with the balance Coming from new agents. As important as same store performance is to growth, the recruitment of new stores may be even more impactful. Speaker 200:08:47A new agent retailer creates incremental transactions in year 1. Additionally, that retailer will grow by even larger percentages In year 23, a continued pipeline of quality, new agents is critical to new store performance, but even more important, the same store growth over time. We are confident that based on Intermex's superior service, our share of remittances within the store will grow as we become the preferred provider over time. To ensure the company maintains the pipeline of new agents to drive future growth, we continually review and analyze Our field productivity metrics to ensure we allocate resources most effectively and cost efficiently. Additionally, we set agent recruitment targets down to the ZIP code level, but this is only the start. Speaker 200:09:38Within each of those ZIP codes, Our recent realignment, complete with an increase in regions and sales district, will position the company to better access these market opportunities. Turning to La Nacional. With the completion of the acquisition, we're actively integrating Land's U. S. Business according to our plans. Speaker 200:10:07We're also starting to capitalize on the significant opportunities that lie ahead in Europe with iTransf. We're investing significant time evaluating the opportunity in Europe, We believe the business unit has significant opportunity for outsized growth over the next several years. This opportunity exists both at retail and on the online digital side, further accentuating our omnichannel approach. In the Q2, iTransfers business grew Approximately 14% in revenue and grew approximately 70% in EBITDA. This business unit has an excellent foundation, and we feel With one company store in Germany. Speaker 200:10:55In the middle run, we will look to grow these countries out and expand to France, the U. K. And other opportunities. As we mentioned previously, we believe that the Europe market will present a big opportunity to grow digital online wires as well. There will be more to come relative to Europe, We see a tremendous future here. Speaker 200:11:15Simultaneously, as we seize the opportunity in Europe, we have made significant progress Integrating and rightsizing La Nationale's U. S.-based business. The upside potential for La Nationale in the U. S. Lies in rightsizing the retail network And maximizing efficiencies while expanding our presence in ZIP Codes along the East Coast that are currently unserved. Speaker 200:11:36On Monday, we announced a restructuring of the U. S. Business, which will result in approximately $1,500,000 in annual savings starting in 3rd quarter. Andres will provide more insight into 3rd quarter restructuring charges incurred that would trigger the $1,500,000 in annual savings. The growth ahead of us will be driven by careful disciplined operating rigor and bringing Intermec's agent recruitment, agent performance model To this business unit, there are many opportunities to expand La Nationale's footprint into new ZIP Codes. Speaker 200:12:09With our formalized restructuring plan, we are confident that we will achieve a 9% to 11% EBITDA margin run rate by late 2023 or early 2024. Le Nationale has proven to be a valuable asset for Intermex, and we're just beginning to unlock its full potential. We believe the combination Of increased profitability of Le Nationale in the U. S, coupled with the significant growth opportunities of eye transfer in Europe We'll translate into 100 of 1,000,000 of dollars of revenue and tens of 1,000,000 of dollars of EBITDA and free cash from these properties over the coming years. Among the other areas we are optimistic about are our payroll and GPR cards. Speaker 200:12:52These will both compete in large attractive markets. The payroll card is a part of a $100,000,000,000 plus market and the GPR market is approximately double that size. Intermix has a significant distribution advantage due to our existing network of high traffic retailers and our check direct service that we provide to many of our Agent Partners. We have a great line of sight to the employers of our customer base. We can then target those companies to demonstrate and feel we are well positioned to launch our upgraded payroll card to the market later this year. Speaker 200:13:36We can also leverage a similar distribution advantage with our GPR card. Our retail sales can leverage the relationships that exist with independent retailers And effectively demonstrate the benefits of adding our GPR card at their retail locations. We are adding a new program manager for the card product We are well positioned for meaningful growth in 2024 and beyond. Lastly, our digital business continues to grow at a high rate. We grew at a rate of 63% in 2nd quarter. Speaker 200:14:15We're also delighted that our updated application has been receiving high marks from our users. A great opportunity for growth exists with Intermec's digital business as well as our wires as a service product in which we co brand or co host with a partner. In summary, it has been another great quarter of double digit EBITDA growth. There is much to be optimistic about in our business. We continue to deliver strong EBITDA numbers with a high conversion to free cash. Speaker 200:14:46That adds to our already strong balance sheet where we have a base of $100,000,000 of available cash to invest in our business. Growth opportunities abound whether it is through our modified approach to retail with our Intermex business, reorganizing of the Nationale Business Unit Or the tremendous opportunity for growth that our EU license provides for us with e transfer. Additionally, we are excited about our Continued sales growth in our digital online business and the prospects for our wireless as a service offering, along with the opportunity to launch our online offering in Europe. Lastly, we believe we have made significant progress with our 2 card products and look for each of them to be meaningful revenue and profit streams in the future. With that, I'll turn the call over to Andres, who will drill down to the numbers and offer his perspective on 2nd quarter operating performance. Speaker 200:15:40Andres? Speaker 300:15:41Thank you. As Bob mentioned, we had another quarter of double digit EBITDA growth. Still, our overall results were a little short of our expectations, Driven by a slowdown in market growth, the pricing dynamic in the markets that Bob mentioned earlier and several unhelpful items that converged during Q2 to make The objectives just that much more difficult to achieve. A large stolen safe, an agent that levered up for Mother's Day and absconded And a settlement of a long standing HR litigation in California are just a few that worked against us in Q2. On slide 5, the number of unique active customers increased by 41.1% during the Q2 to 4,200,000. Speaker 300:16:20These customers generated a record 15,100,000 remittance transactions, 26.7% more than a year ago. This represents about 6.3% growth in transactions in our core business, plus the contribution of La Nacional's U. S. And international businesses. On slide 6, we achieved a 63% increase in digitally originated transactions as strong customer acceptance of our mobile app continues. Speaker 300:16:46Moreover, we achieved this growth while being good stewards of the company's capital, not chasing customers with significant marketing spend that has an unproven payback. From a send and receive standpoint, 31% of our transactions are either sent or received digitally, up 4 80 basis points from a year ago. On slide 7, the total principal transferred grew 19.5 percent to $6,400,000,000 driven by our core business and the addition of La Nacional's U. S. And international businesses. Speaker 300:17:18The average remittance within our U. S. Core Intermex business was consistent with the prior year. It was $4.47 precisely the same send amount it was in Q2 2022. In the consolidated business, the average send amount was down 5.6% for the quarter year over year at $4.22 per transaction. Speaker 300:17:39This is influenced by the average transaction amounts in our La Nacional U. S. And Europe businesses, which are structurally lower. La Nationale U. S. Speaker 300:17:47Is currently at $2.97 and Europe at $2.70 bringing the business average to $422,000,000 for the quarter. On slide 8, total revenues companywide increased 23.5% year over year Reaching $169,200,000 during the 1st 3 months. Excluding acquisitions, revenue growth in our core business was 6.7% fueled by organic customer additions through new and existing agents. Our core revenue growth dipped below the double digit level Quarter impacted by the market slowdown and the current pricing environment. Our digital business is contributing an ever increasing share of revenue. Speaker 300:18:28While still in the single digits, we continue to thoughtfully pace spending around our app and online offerings to match or stay ahead of consumer acceptance. We're successfully growing the digital business efficiently and profitably with the revenue contribution from digitally originated transactions Up just under 58% year on year in the Q2. We keep a tight pulse on consumer behavior, which positions us to invest in digital intelligently, ensuring the unique economics supported. Net income was impacted by a few key areas, top line growth slowing, Our credit facility and depreciation and intangibles amortization. The latter is driven from M and A activity, but also from hardware upgrades and Some accelerated depreciation as we transition to a new headquarters building at year end. Speaker 300:19:19Higher effective tax rate mostly acquisition related Also kept growth in check when it comes to net income. Net income was down 3.5 percent at 15,400,000 Though GAAP EPS was better up 2.4 percent to $0.42 a share aided by our share buybacks. We'll see these same factors flow through Looking at slide 9, adjusted EBITDA increased 11.7 percent to 30,900,000 Also impacted by the slower revenue growth and the inclusion of La Nacional business where margins are structurally lower. Note that as the top line in the core business slowed, we have and will continue to aggressively control costs, which is what allowed us to again achieve Double digit EBITDA quarter. Adjusted net income was up 0.6% during the Q2 to $18,400,000 Impacted by the same underlying drivers as GAAP net income, but excluding items like share based compensation, transaction related expenses and amortization of intangibles and the tax impact related to those items. Speaker 300:20:26From an adjusted EPS perspective, we were up 6.4% to $0.50 a share. Turning to the balance sheet on slide 10. Intermex continues to be an efficient operator in cash generation. The company ended the quarter on a Friday, Peak activity for our business where you would have seen the revolver drawn on the balance sheet to the tune of $116,000,000 from our credit line. Net free cash generated, our internal measure, which excludes working capital cyclicality, dipped a bit to $13,000,000 in Q2. Speaker 300:20:57However, if you exclude the $5,500,000 net cash attributable to the closing of iTransferenthe2nd quarter, Net free cash generated is closer to $18,500,000 a 7% increase from Q2 2022. During the quarter, we continue to be active in the market purchasing 416,000 shares for $10,000,000 at an average price of $24 per share This is a Board authorized repurchase program. Additionally, we repurchased 500,000 shares from one of our beneficial stockholders $25.28 per share, a 4% discount to the market price on the day of the transaction. The negotiated transaction totaled $12,600,000 paid with cash on hand. We continue to see our buyback program as an excellent use of capital and anticipate On slide 11, as a result of the slower market growth we're seeing, coupled with the price discounting in the market, We're adjusting our guidance for the full year. Speaker 300:21:58As mentioned in the Q1 earnings call, we're transitioning from net income to EPS guidance for the remainder of the year. Additionally, as Bob mentioned, we'll record a restructuring charge in the Q3 for Lenacinil. We expect this will be approximately $600,000 which is captured within this guidance. As discussed, this restructure will generate over $1,500,000 And annualized savings beginning in September. Our new guidance is as follows. Speaker 300:22:26For the full year, revenue $644,900,000 to $673,000,000 diluted GAAP EPS of $1.56 to 1 point $114,800,000 to $119,800,000 For the Q3, we expect the following: Revenue of $165,700,000 to $176,800,000 GAAP diluted EPS of $0.40 to $0.43 a share, adjusted diluted EPS of $0.49 to $0.52 a share And adjusted EBITDA of $30,000,000 to $32,000,000 In summary, we continue to execute and Retooling to grow the Intermex core through the current market dynamics. At the same time, we're defining the path to 10x for Europe, Positioning a size up card in digital and driving efficiency to perpetuate a strong EBITDA growth trajectory for La Operator00:24:01Your question has been answered. The first question comes from the line of Mike Grodahl with Northland Securities. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:24:23Hey, guys. Thank you. Could you talk a little bit more about The U. S. Sales force and it sounded like you restructured it, you created a 6th region And I think you said added 10 districts. Speaker 400:24:42What about just the number of salespeople? Kind of how has that trended and how do you think that's sort of feeding the agent pipeline that you mentioned? Speaker 200:24:53Yes. So thank you, Mike, for that question. So we're doing a lot of things related to the sales force. I think As we've talked about many times, we've seen over the years, challenges arise relative to the market pricing It typically happens as the market slows down a bit, as we've seen. The growth in the market has gone from last year, in 2nd quarter at about 15% to Mexico to 8%. Speaker 200:25:19So when that happens, we see a greater push from particularly people that are discounters And in the marketplace with lower prices that caused a little bit more friction for our business. In response to that, We decided to add a 6th region. That region is added in sort of the Southwest, so that we have more emphasis now in terms of folks Focusing on the business in the Western States and then created those additional districts. In the past, we've had, at times more what we called regional sales executives, which were people that were roving, and had bigger geographies in which they could sell in. We didn't feel we got the return on investment for those. Speaker 200:26:00We feel like it's best when someone has a distinct geography, and that's why we created the additional sales districts. Now in addition to that, we're spending a lot of time looking at the markets where we have a lower market share and a huge opportunity on the upside And looking at our pricing related to those. And as I said in the opening remarks, we're not joining the force Of being a discounter by any stretch of the imagination, at the same time, we will be more aggressive at retail Where we're not necessarily excelling because there's not a lot for us to lose there, meaning there's not a big base of business We'd be discounting. There'd be a bigger base of business to acquire. So all of those things together with more salespeople, More people dedicated to specific geographies, much more strategically placed with a different approach to the market Particularly related to those areas where our market share would be, let's say, less than 10%, and even there are some pockets where it might be less than 5%, a lot of places where we have a market share of 30% or 40%. Speaker 200:27:06So we'll focus a little different kind of energy and pricing in those areas that have great opportunity for the upside. Speaker 400:27:13Got it. And then maybe just secondly, how would you describe the pricing challenges or pricing pressure? Is that a couple percentage points of overall growth? Like is there any way you can frame that a little bit? Speaker 200:27:30Yes. I mean, I think anything I would be guessing at, right, to say, well, it's this percentage of growth or whatever. I think what happens is when people, Particularly the smaller providers that general MO to start is to discount. When they see a marketplace slow down, their immediate reaction is the more exaggerated approach to what they normally do, which is to discount. And so we're seeing that in a number of areas. Speaker 200:27:57But in some other areas, we also see opportunities because even those discounters have markets where they need to be able to make money, and we need to attack those. So it's hard to put a number on it. We think that clearly though, what I talked about rather than we've always made our Success by focusing on what we do best rather than just worrying about what the marketplace is doing. And from our perspective, We still have all of those ZIP codes we talked about, 2,000 that are under served or un served that we could gain about 1,500,000 And that's only by getting about a 15% to 20% share in those zip codes, which is very much below where our best zip codes perform. And so really, that's the area that we need to focus on. Speaker 200:28:41Now what will be different because we've talked about that in the past. One thing that will be different is we'll have more dedicated people to Speaker 100:28:46those geographies. And 2, our sort of approach to the market Speaker 200:28:47is going to And 2, our sort of approach to the market is going to be different, where a gross margin, meaning what we get after we Again, the fee and the FX minus what we pay the agent and the payer, we're willing to take a lower ultimate gross margin To gain wires in this more competitive time, we're not going to wait it out as I don't want to say as passively, but as confidently as we have in We'll be a little bit more proactive, quite a bit more proactive. We still think it won't sustain itself. We know that one of the big discounters will be on the market for sale next year. One of them is on stuff out in the market for sale now, 2 private companies. And so they're very aggressive in a down market, And that's affecting the overall. Speaker 200:29:30And then what you see is even some of the public companies start to join in that discounting because they joined the fray. So we need to be able to address that as we're doing, but we also believe that there will be some relief in that over time because whoever Whenever these sales happen, usually what happens is there becomes a change in the approach to the market. Speaker 400:29:52Hey, thanks for that color, Bob. Speaker 500:29:55Welcome. Operator00:29:59The next question comes from the line of Mayank Tandon with Needham, please go ahead. Speaker 500:30:07Thank you. Good morning. Bob and Andres, I just wanted to get a better When the market began to slow down incrementally from the time you gave guidance back in May, like what really changed? Is it more just Pure macro? Or is there something else going on in the market beyond just the macro pressures? Speaker 200:30:25Well, the market Grew in last quarter at 12%, and it grew at 8% to Mexico, which is our core business. So that is something that happened at a greater level In the Q2 versus the Q1, we've seen some slowing, but it's been a bit sporadic. There's you can If you look at the numbers from Mexico, you'll see that sometimes you'll have an 8% growth month and then sometimes you'll have a 13% growth month, and it's been a bit sporadic. But the Quarter as a whole in 2nd quarter dropped about onethree from 12% growth to 8% growth, And that was not fully anticipated. We thought that probably 12% is about where it was going to land. Speaker 200:31:09So I think that impact Was what was not necessarily predicted. Speaker 500:31:16Understood. And then I just wanted to go back to the model. So as we look at the rest of the year, just The building blocks in terms of the numbers, what are the expectations for transaction growth and principal growth and remittance If you could just give us some sense of like what you have embedded in your guidance? Thank you. Speaker 300:31:36Yes. I would just speak from a trend this is Andres. From a transaction growth In the core, we're in conservatively around 5% growth in the core business. And what are the other factors that I could dimensionalize for you? Speaker 200:31:51Principal amount. Speaker 300:31:52Principal amount. I think principal amount we've held in the core as well, Steady year over year. We haven't modeled in any growth or haven't modeled in any attrition in that amount. Speaker 500:32:08And the remittance size would also be just given some of the headwinds you guys talked about, we expect the remittance size to also come down just for the back half of the year to reflect the updated guidance? Speaker 300:32:21Yes. I think it's not much. I mean, maybe a little less than 1% in terms of overall size, the part that's not impacted by The acquisition principal sizes. Speaker 500:32:34Okay. That's helpful. Thank you so much. Speaker 200:32:37Remember the peso is trading at its Strongest point, which we hadn't really talked about, but that many times has an effect on the principal amounts. You would think when you get less pesos on the other side of the border, People would tend to send more because they have a stable amount they need. But what happens is when the peso is usually weaker, If it's in the 20s, people send larger principal amounts because they feel like the peso is on sale and they send bigger Average transaction. So we're kind of the whole industry is kind of those headwinds where the peso has been stronger than it's been in a number of years now. Speaker 500:33:15That's great color. Thank you so much. Operator00:33:29The next question comes from the line of David Scharf with JMP. Please go ahead. Good morning. Speaker 200:33:37Good morning, David. Yes. Speaker 600:33:38Good morning. Thanks for taking my questions. Maybe just to follow-up a little more on the competitive Dynamic right now. Bob, you called out a couple private discounters. But taking a step back, and maybe compared to prior cycles, like you say, this ebbs and flows in terms of price competition, Are the pricing moves by competitors, would you describe them as fairly broad based Among most of the remittance providers you encounter in your stores or is it concentrated within a couple of discounters? Speaker 200:34:24So the question is not broad based geographically, but is it broad based within the competitors? Speaker 600:34:30Exactly. Is this something Speaker 200:34:32Yes, I would say that it is. I would say that it is. And one of the large publics with their second or flanker brand, however you want to Private, that's a deep discounter as well. And one of the other public companies is pretty aggressive as well. So I think it's We're probably, by ourselves as the guys holding the line more. Speaker 200:34:54Our margins have been relatively stable, which is really good news because it gives us Into Mexico of $5 or over $5 and I'm just using that as an example, I'm not quoting that number. And you go out and aggressively go after business that's at a much lower rate, Your blended gross margin is still quite attractive. So we've got a lot of headroom, and I think it's really, Other than us, relatively pervasive. A lot of markets where we have such a strong Position, in the Eastern States, for instance, and I won't name the states specifically, for strategic reasons, But it's harder for the competition to come in because we're so well entrenched. But where we're going in acquiring new business, And that's where I think our approach will change more because there's so much of an upside opportunity. Speaker 200:35:52You might look at a state in the West, Colorado, it has more foreign borns than a state like Georgia. We have a fraction of the business So our opportunity there where we have really strong margins is to be much more aggressive because the upside is really big for us. And that's Again, riding with the discounters. In some cases, we won't be at all. In some cases, our offering won't change at all because we don't really have an issue. Speaker 200:36:27But in other cases, we'll be much more aggressive. We're still going to ride on our value added service. The fact that We pick up our customer service line in 4 seconds that our technology works better and faster and more reliably than anyone else in the face to face transaction. The banking relationships, our Check Direct product, the quality of our customer service, all of those things, we're still going to sell on that value add, But we recognize that we might need to be a little closer to the discounters' prices in certain areas of the market for us to compete And grow again at rates that are in the teens. Speaker 600:37:03Got it. No, understood. And Okay. Couple of just follow ups on more on the operational side. First, the sales additions, can you provide some just context in terms of The addition of a new sales director or new region, new districts, Was this in the cards since the beginning of the year? Speaker 600:37:29Or have you accelerated any expansion plans on the kind of agent acquisition front in To what might be a persistent Speaker 200:37:41price Yes. I mean, I think We're constantly evolving, but the actual decision to add another Regional Director, a new region, happened probably in late sort of Q1, early second And added the person in late Q2. As far as the sales districts, which are Folks that are on the ground, the closest to our retailers, we just recognize the increased productivity of having folks having a signed geography Rather than selling on a floater basis, and when I say a floater, it doesn't mean all over the country, it just means that those what we call RSEs, Regional sales executives, they could sell maybe all over Southern California, but they didn't have accountability for geography. So we recognized that, that was not working, and we'd rather create more districts, which we think puts us in much better position To attack the marketplace with that geographical assignment. So that's really the move there. Speaker 200:38:46And it's I think It's been evolving, but I think it's mostly in response to the fact that we're seeing the market slow. We're seeing all the things we talked about. The Discounters become more aggressive in discounting. And our response to that in an effort to really drill down better into the market And grow our business in some of those areas where we have a really big upside and not really a big base of business And our willingness to do that in a way that we'll accept gross margins that probably were less than we accepted in the past, Still very profitable, but less than they've been in the past. Speaker 600:39:23Got it. Just to close out, I'm assuming based on Just 5% kind of organic transaction growth in the second half that the guidance reduction was Pretty much organic related. Was there any downward revision to the LN La Nacional Forecast is well embedded in the second half guidance reduction or was pretty much all the core business? Speaker 300:39:54No. It was pretty much Driven by the core business, I think La Nacional and Itransfer are doing what we expected them to do. And I think that restructuring activity that we talked about It's going to flow through nicely in the Q4 for La Nacional. So it's really driven by the quarter. Speaker 600:40:10Okay. Got it. Thanks so much. Thank Speaker 400:40:16you. Operator00:40:27The final question comes from the line of Chris Vank with Credit Suisse. Please go ahead. Speaker 700:40:35Hi, good morning. Thank you for taking my question. I have a question on the new Florida immigration law, so specifically the Senate Bill 1718, which was Passed in May and came into impact on July 1, have you seen any impact so far in the 1st month of implementation? And Speaker 200:41:02Yes. I think what we saw initially was a response that was relative to protest, Whether there'll be a long term effect or not, what we see usually when these things kind of happen is it sort of wanes over time and there's really not a big effect. We also will see, I think, in some of these cases where there's been difficulty in the past of a state making it more difficult For immigration is for farmers or those that need the labor to begin to work directly With the work Visa folks to be able to bring people in, on a more less undocumented basis In more documented basis, so there are lots of crops to pick in Florida, and we don't anticipate that in the long run that it's going to have a big impact. We've seen municipalities, not typically states, but municipalities do different things over time. We've even seen states put a tax on On remittances, on every remittance. Speaker 200:42:02And it's not had an impact over time because of the need for labor and the willingness of folks to provide it. So I think some short term kind of days of protest and stuff occurred, but I think it's too early to tell What's going on is we have a market that's slowing a bit anyway, so it's difficult to see, and we're not seeing Florida grow or slow At a rate that would be greater than the greater market, and we wouldn't expect that it would be something that would hamper the ability of People who require labor to hire it and labor who wants to provide labor to provide it. Speaker 700:42:40All right. Very helpful and very comprehensive. Thank you so much. Operator00:42:51I'll turn the conference back over to Bob Liffey for any closing remarks. Speaker 200:42:57Yes. Thank you all for joining us. We look forward to talking to you all soon. ThanksRead moreRemove AdsPowered by