MGM Resorts International Q2 2023 Earnings Call Transcript

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August 2, 2023

There are 17 speakers on the call.

Operator

Afternoon, and welcome to the MGM Resorts International Second Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. Joining the call from the company today are Bill Hornbuckle, Chief Executive Officer and President Corey Sanders, Chief Operating Officer Jonathan Halkyard, Chief Financial Officer and Treasurer Hubert Wang, President and Chief Operating Officer of MGM China and Andrew Chapman, Director of Investor Relations. Participants are currently in a listen only mode. And after the company's prepared remarks, there will be a question and answer session. Please also note that this event is being recorded.

Operator

I would now like to turn the call over to Andrew Chapman.

Speaker 1

Good afternoon, and welcome to the MGM Resource International's 2nd quarter 2023 is being broadcast live on the Internet at investors. Engineresorts.com. We've also furnished our press release on Form 8 ks to the SEC. Company. On this call, we will make forward looking statements under the Safe Harbor provisions of the federal securities laws.

Speaker 1

Actual results may differ materially from those contemplated in these statements. Additional information concerning factors that could cause actual results to differ from these forward looking statements is contained in today's press release and in our periodic filings with the company's call is being recorded. Since as required by law, we undertake no obligation to update these statements as a result of new information or otherwise. Company. During the call, we will also discuss non GAAP financial measures in talking about our performance.

Speaker 1

You can find the reconciliation to GAAP financial measures in our press release and investor presentation, conference call, which are available on our website. Finally, this presentation is being recorded. I will now turn it over to Bill Hornbuckle.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Andrew, and thank you all for joining us this afternoon. I'm happy to share that MGM Resorts posted an all time record company's call is being recorded. We achieved strong earnings across our domestic portfolio with near record second quarter adjusted property company's Q1 results at MGM China and the Q1 of positive EBITDA at BetMGM. At a high level, we're seeing strong demand trends in Las Vegas, casino drop and handle up year over year alongside increasing hotel revenues with our 4th quarter hotel revenues forecasted to be the highest of all time. Company.

Speaker 2

In our regional operations, we achieved year over year top line growth on a same store basis, taking into consideration the sale of the Goldstrike Tunica company with profit margins in the range of prior quarters. We're continuing to evaluate our business and evolve our products to ensure that we're maximizing profit conference call, while maintaining great customer service levels. Our 2nd quarter results are continued testament to our 75,000 plus employees company and their commitment to offering world class service and memories for our guests. Simply stated, our employees are the best in the business, and I want to company, we thank them for helping us deliver another outstanding quarter in Las Vegas and our regional locations and ultimately in Macau. Company.

Speaker 3

While we're

Speaker 2

certainly pleased with the results we've achieved in the first half of this year, we frankly are even more excited by what's to come in the back half, company, starting with the historic long term agreement with Marriott International that we announced last month. As part of this agreement, company, we've created a new MGM collection with Marriott Bonvoy, allowing its more than 180,000,000 members to book rooms and earn and redeem Marriott Bonvoy points company at 17 MGM Resorts Domestic Properties. This agreement will enhance our profitability by driving lower customer acquisition costs company and with a better mix in higher ADRs and on property spend. By 2025, our expectation is that the Marriott customer base company represent a meaningful segment of our hotel mix at premium rates. Jonathan will expand further on this business case in his section.

Speaker 2

Company. I'd like to personally thank Tony Capuano and his team for their partnership and collaboration throughout this effort, and we can't wait to get started in the fall. Looking into the Q3, we have great programming, including Black Hat at Mandalay Bay, Magic at the Convention Center and Beyonce at Allegion. Bookings are strengthening for the remainder of the year and as we get close to the Formula 1 in November, we've also got a great fall home schedule for the Raiders, conference call, which will have fans flocking into Vegas in Green Bay, Pittsburgh, Kansas City and New England among other cities that all travel well. Company.

Speaker 2

For Formula 1, while still early, we already have twice the occupancy on the books and at 4 times the average rate compared to last year company, we are pleased to announce that the Company's Q1 is shaping up to be an all time record casino event for the company. Our pace into the Q2 of 2024 is also setting up conference call is quite well, excuse me, in the Q1 highlighted by the Super Bowl and Allegiant Stadium in February. We're already seeing stronger rates in a typical Super Bowl weekend company with exceptional early business from sponsors and media that has led to 3 to 4 times higher room rates on the books. Company. Looking longer term, we're excited by the possibilities of welcoming the A's to Las Vegas literally in our front yard at the current Tropicana site.

Speaker 2

Company. EA is proposing a 30,000 seat stadium representing an additional 2,400,000 seats every year during the regular season. Company that should drive over 400,000 new tourists in the focus on midweek business. The Raiders and the Stanley Cup champion Golden Knights have shown that Las Vegas company is the go to destination for away fans seeking a fun and entertaining getaway to see their favorite teams play and when they think the A's will be no different. Company, the AVE Stadium, Allegiant and T Mobile represent 100,000 seats holding 3 professional sports teams company that are directly adjacent to 1 or more of our properties with a possibility for multiple events on the same day, it's clear that Las Vegas has become the world's premier sports company and Entertainment Destination.

Speaker 2

Turning to Macau, we posted another outstanding quarter of performance at adjusted property EBITDAR surpassing the Q2 company of 2019, margins were in the high 20s, a great story that we feel confident can be sustained for the long term. Company. Our outsized performance in Macau is a result of exceptional execution by the team at MGM China, who has done an incredible job positioning our properties to maintain share in the mid teens company and the market has seen significant increase in hotel supply during the quarter. Just a few weeks ago, we reconfigured an enhanced pit 7 at MGM Macau company and the LOTUS room in MGM Cotai and expect to complete the deployment optimization in Q3 of our tables. Company.

Speaker 2

In Macau, we are focused on 4 key priority: activating our incremental 200 tables making optimistic changes company to our casino floor to maximize yield, taking care of our premium mass customers and driving international customers to our property through our global branch office network. Company, we're committed to helping shape the future of Macau as a global tourism destination through our concession commitments with investments being beginning this year. Thank you, Mikhail. Capital will cover a wide range of opportunities, including investments in art and culture, entertainment and the expansion of our international customer base. Company's call, I'd like to thank the Macawitzer Government for their continued support.

Speaker 2

Turning now to BetMGM, as the team announced last week, company. We are on track for second half twenty twenty three profitability, and we're pleased with the meaningful progress we've made towards single account, single wallet. Company. In fact, this week, we expect to be live with this feature in 14 markets, which cover more than 50% of our database. Our partners announced acquisition of Angstrom is also a positive step towards improving BetMGM's product and refining our pricing tools, both of which we expect to drive customer satisfaction company and ultimately margins.

Speaker 2

One of the meaningful benefits that MGM Resorts brings to bed MGM is the 37,000 rooms in Las Vegas company is important new customers nightly. All of our resort guests are exposed to BetMGM marketing throughout their stay and on average BetMGM requires company's call is now open. 30,000 customers monthly who have originated or had a prior relationship with MGM Resorts, with half of those coming from Nevada. Excuse me. As we roll out single account, single wallet across the country, BetMGM will be able to truly activate our unparalleled footprint in Las Vegas company is part of our omni channel strategy.

Speaker 2

We expect acquisition and engagement metrics to grow as players get to enjoy a seamless experience company using the BetMGM app across state borders. We're also focused on growing our international digital business through LEO Vegas company and last quarter announced an acquisition of Push Gaming, a gaming content studio. That acquisition is scheduled to close later this fall. We developed our digital presence internationally through improved content, technology and distribution. Now lastly, on the development front, company, in New York, we hope to receive a license in the first half of twenty twenty four.

Speaker 2

In Japan, Next step is entering into implementation agreement with the central government, company, which we also expect in the fall. In closing, our agreement with Marriott, ongoing investments into our operations company and a fantastic sports and entertainment backdrop in Las Vegas position us well to create operating leverage by growing our EBITDAR against our fixed rent escalators. Company's call. The stability of our domestic business will be supplemented by outsized earnings opportunities in Macau as that business ramps and the beginning company's call is being recorded. We also have longer tail opportunities with our developments in Japan and New York and with our international digital strategy company with Leo Vegas.

Speaker 2

When you connect each of these opportunities for cash flow generation together, add to the strength of our balance sheet company and with more cash than debt than excluding MGM China, then consider the fact that we reduced our share count by approximately 30% since the beginning of 2021, company, we believe the company is tremendously positioned for growth as we accelerate our free cash flow yield. With that, I'll turn this over to Jonathan for more detail on the quarter. Jonathan?

Speaker 4

Company. Thanks very much, Bill. And I too want to start my remarks by thanking our employees for all their hard work in delivering another robust quarter of results. Company. Bill said our employees are the best in the business and I couldn't agree more.

Speaker 4

In the second quarter, we achieved strong earnings across our domestic portfolio company's

Speaker 5

call is now open. A near second quarter all time

Speaker 4

record adjusted property EBITDAR results at MGM China. Before I get into the results, conference call. Let me begin with the financial benefits we believe the Marriott agreement brings to MGM. In Las Vegas, MGM Resorts fills roughly 12,000,000 room nights a year. Company.

Speaker 4

Based on data from the Cosmopolitan as well as Marriott, we believe we can replace approximately 5% to 7% of our lowest yielding rooms company with Marriott Direct bookings representing 600,000 to 800,000 rooms per year. Upgrading these lower yielding room nights with Marriott brings a lower customer acquisition costs, higher ADR and a higher yielding customer with more on property spend. Company. Based on our research and our prior experience with Cosmopolitan, we expect to increase profit per room by is approximately $100 per night, driving $60,000,000 to $75,000,000 in annual profit once stabilized. Company's call.

Speaker 4

This estimate doesn't include any further upside from our regional operations, group or occupancy lift. All in all, we're company, I'm

Speaker 5

excited about this agreement

Speaker 4

with Marriott and look forward to kicking things off in October. Now turning to our results. Company's call is being recorded. Thank you, Steve. Thank you, Steve.

Speaker 4

Thank you, Steve. Thank you, Steve. Thank you, Steve. Thank you, Steve. Thank you, Steve.

Speaker 4

Thank you, Steve. Thank you, Steve. Thank you, Steve. Thank you, Steve. Thank you, Steve.

Speaker 4

Thank you, Steve. Thank you, Steve. Thank you, Steve. Thank you, Steve. Thank you, Steve.

Speaker 4

Company's operating activities and $14,000,000 in CapEx related to MGM China were included in the quarter. Company. Here in Las Vegas, revenues of $2,100,000,000 were steady compared to prior year and adjusted property EBITDAR was down 6% company to $777,000,000 that's a good number for Las Vegas.

Speaker 6

On a

Speaker 4

same store basis, excluding the Mirage and the Cosmopolitan, company. Revenues were level and adjusted property EBITDAR decreased 8%. Margins of 36% were well above 2019 levels. 2nd quarter occupancy was 96% and ADR was $2.34 an increase of 4% year over year. Company's call.

Speaker 4

Looking forward, our pace, which reflects on the books rooms, is up year over year for every month beginning in 2023 or remaining in 2023. Company. In terms of where we are seeing strength in Las Vegas, it's clear that it's coming from the Luxury segment, which for this purpose we define as our company are the properties which have a higher ADR than the strip average of $185 and that's our business. Company. This segment represents approximately 65% of our rooms and over 80% of our EBITDAR in the 2nd quarter.

Speaker 4

Company. In the regions, revenues of $926,000,000 were down 3% compared to prior year and adjusted property EBITDAR was down 14% company's call is now open to the call to $294,000,000 Of course, this quarter, we did not have the results of the Gold Strike. So same store revenues, excluding the Gold Strike, grew 2% company with adjusted property EBITDAR decreasing 7%. We continue to see stable trends in our regional operations. Company.

Speaker 4

While EBITDAR was down year over year on a same store basis, most of that decline is attributable to 2 properties, the Borgata and MGM Grand Detroit, company, both of which lead their highly competitive markets. Regional adjusted EBITDAR margins were 32% in the quarter. Company. As you will recall, in the Q3 of 2022, we brought back our normal service and amenity levels to our regional properties, company, which has led to consistent margins in the 32% to 33% range since. Turning to Macau.

Speaker 4

Our adjusted property EBITDAR of $209,000,000 is an increase of 21% versus the Q2 of 2019 with a 28% margin. Gross gaming revenues exceeded 2nd quarter 2019 company's earnings call, our adjusted EBITDAR was over 100% when compared to 2019. We made progress in improving MGM China's credit profile with the July commencement of the amendment and extension of our 2 revolving credit facilities with a new maturity date in 2026, and this was an important step in securing company and extending our access to liquidity. In the first half of twenty twenty three, BetMGM generated net revenues associated with operations company of $944,000,000 which is an improvement of 55% compared to the first half last year. Company.

Speaker 4

Bet MGM is well on track to achieve our forecast of $1,800,000,000 to $2,000,000,000 in net revenues from operations for the year. Company. Our 50% of BetMGM's operating losses in the 2nd quarter were $22,000,000 As you recall, BetMGM or sorry, MGM reports company's Investors and Investors and Investors and Investors. So our 2nd quarter reporting reflects March through May and that explains the variance to BetMGM's Company's Q4 results are positive EBITDA in the calendar quarter. Let me close on capital allocation and valuation.

Speaker 4

Company, as we just lapped the 1 year mark at the Cosmopolitan and with the Mirage and Goldstrike transactions behind us, conference call is a good time to reflect on the impact of these portfolio moves on our financial picture. We committed a net $460,000,000 of company's capital to our domestic OpCos with the acquisition of the Cosmopolitan and the subsequent dispositions of the Mirage and the Goldstrike. Company. On a trailing 12 month basis, the incremental adjusted property EBITDAR generated from the Cosmopolitan less the amount lost with the dispositions company was $258,000,000 Backing out the change to cash rent with these transactions results in a net increase of $188,000,000 company is on $460,000,000 of capital. This implies a creation multiple of 2.4 times company, or said another way, a return on investment of 41% for a property, the Cosmopolitan of Las Vegas, company that is now the youngest in our Las Vegas portfolio with the attending low CapEx requirement.

Speaker 4

We take capital allocation seriously here company, we're proud of these moves and the execution of the Cosmopolitan, which made it all possible. This year through today, we also returned capital to company's shareholders by purchasing over 28,000,000 shares for $1,200,000,000 We're currently trading at company is 30% higher than our average weighted cost of shares since the program resumed in early 2021, yet our valuation still remains very attractive. Company's call. In our earnings presentation posted this afternoon, I revisit our adjusted EBITDA multiple at current trading levels. Using consensus valuation estimates for company's share of BetMGM and the current market value of MGM China, we're trading at 5 times trailing adjusted EBITDA.

Speaker 4

Bill, back to you.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Jonathan. Hopefully, you've heard the business case come through loud and clear. MGM Resorts offers consistent earnings through our Las Vegas and regional properties company. With near term growth and diversification through BetMGM's shift to profitability and MGM's China's rapid inflection, company as well as long term growth opportunities in international, digital and to our expansion efforts in New York and Japan, plus company's financial results, our Board of Directors and Investor Relations, as well as return capital to shareholders company is through share repurchases. As Jonathan mentioned, we believe our shares will still be priced at an attractive level.

Speaker 2

And as we stand today, I am certainly encouraged company is our ability to grow free cash flow significantly and believe as the sum of the parts evaluation we included in the deck suggests our core business is trading at multiples company is well below our competitors, providing them for future growth and value to our shareholders. With that, operator, we'll take questions.

Speaker 5

Conference call,

Operator

we will now begin the question and answer session. Conference call. And our first question today will come from Joe Greff with JPMorgan. Please go ahead.

Speaker 7

Afternoon, Bill. Afternoon, Jonathan.

Speaker 8

Hi, Joe.

Speaker 7

You did a fairly thorough job talking about company Your current operations and the trend lines in Las Vegas and the regional Macau as well as BetMGM. So I have a couple of sort of big picture questions or one big picture question and then sort of one thought on New York. But my first question is, if you can just give us an update company. On any digital or any M and A aspirations in digital, how much of a strategic priority is that for you both commercial markets and in North America. And then maybe for each, how big is too big?

Speaker 7

Is there a size constraint? And then my follow-up question relates to the company, the 3 downstate licenses here in New York or New York where I'm at, if Could the 2 existing facilities get licenses if there's contention or uncertainty around the company, the 3rd license and what's your expectation in terms of communications regarding the next steps in New York? I think, Bill, company.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Joe. Let me take those. Company. As it relates to digital, we're focused on working alongside our partners with a collective goal to maximize the growth and profitability company of MGM and Leo Vegas, I think we're making good progress on both those fronts, and that's really all we're going to say. I think on the second one, it has been interesting.

Speaker 2

I'm hopeful in the next month or so That we're going to hear something from the commission and ultimately get the process rolling. As you know, we've submitted questions. I think we submitted like company, we have 485 questions about the actual bill and the process. The moment they begin to return those questions to us, the 90 day starts, company. We've not got any specific indication, but we do believe it will happen shortly and are hopeful to that.

Speaker 2

That remains on track, I think, for sometime in 'twenty four, getting licensed and then pushing on from there would be our goal and our hope, but nothing definitive there either.

Speaker 4

Thanks, guys.

Operator

And our next question will come from Shaun Kelley with Bank of America. Please go ahead.

Speaker 9

Hi, good afternoon, everyone. Thanks for taking my questions. So I just want to dig into sort of the Las Vegas outlook a little bit, company But probably a little bit more through a margin or cost lens. So I think across the quarter and certainly across lots of other company. Leisure oriented businesses, we're starting to see the top line just normalize a little bit and it's pretty understandable after such a good year last year.

Speaker 9

Just could you help us think a little bit about what kind of revenue growth MGM needs in the back half or kind of moving forward company. To get a bit of cost leverage to either hold margin or get a bit of cost leverage from a bit of a more normalized level. I think in the back half ex Formula 1, things are going to start to look a little bit more normal. So just help us think about what are you experiencing on the inflation front? What would you need?

Speaker 9

Could you lever a company A 2% or 3% growth rate, would you need a little bit more than that just given the existing inflationary environment? How do you kind of think about those puts and takes?

Speaker 2

I'll kick it off and turn it over to my colleagues. Look, obviously, Formula 1 is a unique opportunity and it sounds like one that's going to repeat itself for us often and The economics around that are substantial. That being said, we've relooked at our forecast for the second half of the year and particularly on top line, Driven by rooms and driven by luxury, feel really good about it, both individually by property and particularly as you go up the luxury spectrum and then ultimately overall. I think the big thing that's going to impact us is going to be ultimately wage. You all know the company, all of Las Vegas companies are now out in negotiating process, which is going well.

Speaker 2

Company. We have decades of history with them on doing this. This town hasn't seen a strike since the '80s. And so I think we'll come to a reasonable resolve. There are issues there around housekeeping of note in their core contingency of people that we're going to need to address.

Speaker 2

But labor, I think, is the biggest thing that sits out there. But again, the top line has been holding up exceptionally well. So company.

Speaker 4

Yes, it's Jonathan. Sean, I'll add a couple of comments. Year on year, company. We're experiencing some increases in Las Vegas in the regional markets, in our FTE counts, company is mostly around full staffing in the regions around actually a fairly dramatic increase in non gaming revenues in our regional company. But as you look sequentially as we go forward into the 3rd, Q4, Q1 of next year, I think we'll just need a few percentage points of growth in order to maintain margins company's call is being recorded in and around these current levels.

Speaker 4

And interestingly, in Las Vegas, the Q4 has become a seasonal higher quarter for us with, Of course, F1, the event schedule around the Raiders and other things that we're doing, so that tends to help margins as well.

Speaker 10

Corey,

Speaker 3

I think he covered it, John.

Speaker 2

And Sean, I would just for reaffirmation on margins, we've now landed, I think, where we said we would land. Company I think that's pretty history would say that and we intend to stay there. And so we'll continue to adjust the business accordingly, company. But we understand the importance of the margins and where we are and where we need and want to be. And I think we're just about there.

Speaker 9

That's super helpful color. Thank you. As my follow-up, a small one, but Jonathan, thanks for the sort of extra detail on the The Marriott agreement, just sort of one specific one on that, but the $60,000,000 to $75,000,000 in annual profit you outlined, is company. Like that net or gross, meaning is that after the incremental cost to Marriott for that? So would that just be pure savings to MGM or do we have to net out whatever the costs are, the fees to Marriott as

Operator

a part of that?

Speaker 4

No. We see that as net of company and also doesn't include benefits in the regional markets And in occupancy, recognizing we already operate at very high occupancies, but that's a net number.

Speaker 9

Really encouraging. Thank you, everyone.

Operator

Company. And our next question will come from David Katz with Jefferies. Please go ahead.

Speaker 6

Hi, afternoon everyone. Thanks for taking my question. I wanted to talk about the regional business just a bit. We've A number of regional operators report so far and there's been just some pressure right on the top and the bottom. Can you just give us your Current state of the state of the regional business, is this kind of a momentary Pressure, is it economically driven?

Speaker 6

What is your outlook for that business competitively, etcetera.

Speaker 3

Yes, David, it's Corey. I think the business is company is fairly stable. As we look across all of our lines of business, the one area we're seeing a little bit of a decline in is our table games at a few of the properties company that Jonathan mentioned earlier about the decline in our business, the non gaming amenities are holding up extremely well company have been very strong this summer. On the labor front, I think we're pretty well dialed in there. We're still down significantly from our peak company The FTEs and have a good understanding of our cost.

Speaker 3

So that business maintaining, I see is most likely happening in the future quarters.

Speaker 6

Got it.

Speaker 4

I was just going to add a couple of comments, which is that ours is a unique company's regional portfolio in that not only are virtually all the properties have commanding market positions, but company now with the conclusion of the room renovation at the Water Club as well as the Beau Rivage, these are properties which are as a group going to be company, extremely strong free cash flow generators for the enterprise, over the next several years with a lot of the major CapEx behind us. So, They play a very important part for the portfolio because of that.

Speaker 6

Understood. Company. And one of the topics we haven't talked about in a while, Jonathan, is focusing on digital investment, investment in the loyalty program company and MGM's loyalty program. Can you update us on what's going on there and what benefits you may be seeing or any ways to measure?

Speaker 4

Sure. Most of our investments in the loyalty program have been around technology enablement for our MGM Rewards members so that they can make their reservations online, they can check-in through mobile check-in, etcetera, company and also introducing benefits to the program whereby they can redeem their MGM reward company is now on the line of the call. Points for non gaming as well as other amenities and earn the points on non gaming amenities. All of these are seeing company's call is steady progress as we go through quarter to quarter. And it's an increasingly important part of the business.

Speaker 4

The capital investment requirement is company is fairly modest. It's more around operational standards and just increasing the awareness company is our MGM Rewards customers' benefits associated with the program.

Speaker 3

And just a few other points, Jonathan. We just have company changed our platforms, which will allow us to do gamification, which we think from a loyalty perspective will help increase wallet share. And then we just announced that the Cosmopolitan of Las Vegas in February will shift to our loyalty program. So we're looking forward to the opportunities there also.

Speaker 2

And maybe last comment, our casino segmentation is up almost 10 points as a percentage of our mix company's call is generally the program and all of its attributes have been a key driver in that. And so we've seen a good deal of pickup throughout the course of the last year. Even if I take out BetMGM, which is, as I've said in my prepared comments, a huge driver of new sign ups, if you take that up, I want to and I'll be off on the number here, but I think we have like 12 company, 13% growth in that program and so and ultimately awareness. Obviously, going from M Life to MGM Rewards, company, the awareness of the program and what it means across the portfolio has been beneficial.

Speaker 6

Thank you, everyone.

Operator

And our next question will come from Barry Jonas with Truist Securities. Please go ahead.

Speaker 11

Hey, good afternoon. I appreciate the commentary on margins. You've previously talked about 400 basis points to 600 basis company is curious if that's still

Speaker 10

the right range, that 200 basis point range or if you think it's a little tighter now?

Speaker 4

I'm still comfortable with that range, and I appreciate the observation. We look at it very closely. We get very company is very specific in terms of where that margin improvement is coming from. But then again, 2019 was a long time ago. So We're focusing on the business as it is now, but we're still comfortable with that as a benchmark.

Speaker 11

Okay, understood. And then just as a follow-up, you've given a lot of great color on the Marriott deal. Maybe just Can you talk a little bit more about any integrations with BetMGM and how you could see upside there?

Speaker 2

Ultimately, it's our ability to market to their customers and then their customers Having an opportunity to do BetMGM in its context, we have company. A program that I think that's going to motivate Bonvoy points for those folks ultimately. It sits independent with BetMGM today, I think it will be a key driver and when you have 180,000,000 people aware of a product, we think it's pretty significant and interesting and they can company, get rewarded in Bonvoy points and ultimately do things, both inside that organization and ultimately back within our own. So, it's a pretty straightforward deal, Well, there's a fee for acquisitions for us, and then they open up the benefits programming to all of their members and our members to each other.

Speaker 11

Perfect. Thank you so much.

Operator

And our next question will is from Carlo Santarelli with Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead.

Speaker 11

Hey, guys. I was just hoping maybe if we could company is going to kind of look at the same store results in Las Vegas and maybe you guys can kind of help me better understand some of the ins and outs. But conference call, but still kind of within a range of what you guys talked about relative to 2019. For starters, what There was no reference to hold or anything, so I wanted to ask if that was normal. And secondly, I wanted to ask with the union contracts Upcoming, is there any kind of booking of potential incremental labor increases that took place in the quarter and might take place in the 3rd

Speaker 4

In terms of the margin company's performance year on year, again, it was fairly consistent with what we experienced in the Q2 in terms of margin performance in Las Vegas. Company. But as we look at year on year, a lot of the difference is coming from labor. As we came out of this company came into the Q2 in 2022. We weren't yet fully staffed, and so we were comping against company, a lighter labor load in the Q2 of 2022.

Speaker 4

And then it was a mixed bag of a number of small items, none of which are company I think are worth going into, hold was not a significant factor and those all contributed to it. But like You noted in the premise of your question, we're kind of in that margin zone that we anticipated getting to and have been now for a couple of quarters.

Speaker 11

Okay. Thanks. And then just getting back to the accounting for BetMGM and obviously the EBITDA loss in the quarter Given the different calendar accounting, clearly June was a positive month based on that. July August tend to be Seasonally softer months, I would say, within the sports calendar, etcetera. Is it possible that kind of company is 3Q, which is generally a weaker quarter in general from an EBITDA perspective, could actually be breakeven to slightly positive company prior to obviously what would be expected to be a stronger 4Q?

Speaker 4

I mean, I prefer not to Harse the quarter, I think you're directionally correct in terms of the relative strength of the different quarters. I think the Q2 calendar result It was terrific and we stand by that second half, profitability comment.

Speaker 11

Okay. And sorry, just so I'm clear, that's obviously you guys are thinking aggregate second half as reported Positive, but not necessarily each quarter positive. Is that the right way to interpret that?

Speaker 2

Yes.

Speaker 5

Yes.

Speaker 2

Okay. You've got football obviously kicking up in the 3rd quarter. The answer is yes.

Speaker 11

Yes. All right. Thank you, guys.

Operator

And our next question will come from call is Stephen Grambling with Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.

Speaker 12

Hey, thanks. Maybe one more on BetMGM. I know you didn't company. I'm sorry, I didn't disclose the EBITDA exactly, but from what we can tell, it looks like the margin there may be a little bit lower than one of your closest peers, but I know there's some company's Q4, the company's Q4, the company's Q4, the company's Q4, the company's Q4, the company's Q4, the company's Q4, the company's Q4, the company's Q4, the company's Q4, the company's Q4, the company's Q4, the company's Q4, the company's Q4, the company's Q4, the

Speaker 5

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Speaker 2

Q4, Yes. Look, I think and we've said this on a prior call, and I think the great news is we finally got single wallet in motion. I think the opportunity with Angstrom will drive more product, more parlay, more frequency and recency around bets in game and otherwise. And those are big margin businesses. And so if you look at, I think gross, we're a little over 9%.

Speaker 2

I know there's a goal to break through 10 Once we get Angstrom fully deployed, which will probably come in a couple of phases through football and then post football. And so I think if you looked at the businesses, that's the company. The biggest delta between the 2 is the product offering and more importantly, the type of products that potentially someone like a FanDuel or DraftKings will offer versus the velocity of company's earnings call. We're simply going to have more high margin bets available for customers as we deploy Angstrom.

Speaker 4

And Stephen, it's Jonathan. If you look at our second quarter, some of the KPIs that we called out in the earnings presentation. I mean, as leading indicators, we're very excited about them for the profitability of the business, company's earnings call. Lower customer acquisition costs, higher margin on online sports betting, increased play by our loyal known customers and All of our pre-twenty 23 markets now contribution positive. I mean, all those things bode very well company for improving profitability in the future.

Speaker 12

That's super helpful. And one follow-up just on Kind of BetMGM, but also the regional properties. It looks like the properties that were in the States with legalized iGaming Had a little bit weaker gross gaming revenue than those without. Any color on how to assess cannibalization from iGaming or BetMGM specifically?

Speaker 2

Well, I think in macro, it's beginning to be a slight factor. But I think if you look at it in aggregate, obviously, what's happened in a place like Michigan, where it's gone company is almost 100% more than brick and mortar. It's meaningful to the business and meaningful collectively. We continue to hold our market share. I don't know, Corey, company Recently what it is, 48% or whatever it is, 46%.

Speaker 2

So in totality, we think it's to our betterment company, we're excited by it long term. And again, I think once we get more of this omnichannel in play, we can begin to motivate back

Speaker 5

into the property level with tournaments and other activity cases that will drive

Speaker 2

people back into company level with tournaments and other activity cases will drive people back into brick and mortar.

Speaker 12

Makes sense and ultimately free cash flow margin accretive.

Speaker 13

Yes, clearly.

Speaker 12

Thank you.

Operator

And our next question will come from Dan Politzer with Wells Fargo. Please go ahead.

Speaker 10

Hey, good afternoon, everyone. I guess a high level one on Vegas. You've done a good job kind of laying out the near term and medium term outlook. But I I guess as we look past the Super Bowl into 2024, can you maybe highlight some of the key events that you have on the calendar or I guess Where you are in terms of the group and convention pacing versus where you typically are? Yes, just any color as we kind of look further out into the demand picture company would be great.

Speaker 10

Thanks.

Speaker 2

I'll get started, Cory.

Speaker 3

Yes. So 2024 from a convention booking perspective looks really positive for our company. Company is the number of convention room nights we've had in the second and third quarter here. So we have been a little bit down on the convention side, company, which puts some pressure on the legacy properties in the mid week. But as we look at 'twenty four, in the pace that we're seeing company and where those rooms are being booked, it should make up the difference that we saw in the last few quarters.

Speaker 2

And then if you think just more macro in terms of events, event activity, company The great news is we're still the net beneficiary of where carriers like to bring their aircraft. I think we're sitting at 115% or 116% of company's Q4, we have a number of inventory seats over where we were pre pandemic. So that's been great news. Conventions, as Corey mentioned, will pick pace. Company.

Speaker 2

We have yet to see the full return of international business to Las Vegas, particularly from Asia. I think that will take some pace. We're excited by what we think Marriott can do from a, if not a displacement, but probably a little bit of both, a higher value customer against an occupancy creep up company because we've seen what's happened to Cosmopolitan, if we stretch it across the portfolio, we think that's meaningful. We have several bids in for several NC2A tournaments, the College championship game, the Final 4, Frozen Fury, if not Frozen, whatever they call their Final 4 for hockey, I think it's called Frozen Fury. For whether it's a Beyonce that's coming in later this month or others, selling out in Las Vegas is almost a given, company given the nature of the activity, it's not a 3 hour event, it's a 3 day event.

Speaker 2

And so, we keep getting more than our fair share company looks at all of those things as a community and we as individual properties obviously with T Mobile in our portfolio etcetera. So Overall, pretty excited by all of it. And then you have

Speaker 3

the spirit with U2, which at 20,000 people a night has to help the entire city. I think boxing is definitely coming back. We just hosted a fight last week and that was spectacular for us.

Speaker 10

Got it. Thanks for all the color. And then just pivoting to digital and BetMGM, obviously, if we look through your slides and we see the data, share has company Kind of edged downwards a bit. So maybe can you talk about the priorities at the JV level as it relates to growth and market share versus profitability, which

Speaker 5

It's 2

Speaker 2

things. You kind of touched on both of them. Drive to profitability, We see cohorts maturing in 24 to 36 months, particularly in sports, hopefully a little sooner than iGaming company. Well, not hopefully. They are maturing a little sooner than I gaming.

Speaker 2

We've seen our CPAs come down from 400s down below 300s. And so there's active maturity there in the context of how we're marketing and to whom, and we're more disciplined about all of that. And candidly, it's back what I said earlier. Our product is not where we want it to be. I think the moves that we're now making though company, we'll continue to make with Angstrom as a part as an onboarded partner for BetMGM.

Speaker 2

We'll get us company to a place where we'll be back in that game in a meaningful way, and hopefully begin to gain some share back. On the casino side, it's simply Sports Betters, about 30% of them migrate over to the casino. If you take that out of the equation, If you leave that in the equation, it's the part of the reason iGaming has come down a couple of points, but we continue to dominate. We're not naive that they're not coming after us In that forum, but we continue to innovate. We've got new games going on the floor.

Speaker 2

Go back to the question we just had around, company. Is it hurting brick and mortar that have jackpots that extend from digital over to brick and mortar and vice versa? And so we're continuing to Figure out ways to tie both products together to promote both ends of the spectrum.

Speaker 10

Got it. Really helpful. Thanks for the color.

Operator

And our next question will come from Brandt Montour with Barclays. Please go ahead.

Speaker 14

Good evening, everybody. Thanks for the question. I was wondering if in the regionals, company,

Speaker 2

if you wanted to if

Speaker 14

you were able to give us a little more color on what happened in at the Borgata and in Detroit this quarter and if it's fair to assume that if you adjusted for that, You would have ended up comfortably in that 32% to 33% margin range that you talked about, Jonathan.

Speaker 4

Company. Sure. Yes, at the Borgata, it was a matter of a couple of pretty significant company. Table game events moving from June into July and MGM Detroit, it was some issues around Hold for the property in the quarter. But again, going forward, we're comfortable being in that range.

Speaker 3

Forgot it was the big tracker of the margin.

Speaker 14

Okay, great. That's helpful. And then over in Macau, company. As you look at the market's recovery and where you guys think the recovery is coming from here and company, looking at your own capacity and your own sort of expertise, can you tell us What gives you confidence that you'll be able to hold the market share gains that you've gotten and how you sort of think that can trend from here?

Speaker 2

I'll kick it off and turn it over to Hubert, who obviously lives this every day. Look, we are uniquely positioned in the way we've company, historically shaped for decades our marketing organization around knowing our own customers and delivering them to our properties. Company. And obviously now with the demise of junkets, we've seen that network go to work and frankly we're expanding on that network. We've opened a couple more offices company.

Speaker 2

And so that's been meaningful and helpful. And then I think it is interesting to us that the moves that we made on the casino floor itself company and the reconfigurations and the velocity and the way we offer up games and the proximity to each other, others have now begun to replicate. Company. And so that's real, and it may or may not take its course. But here we are, July was yet a record month.

Speaker 2

Here we are 7 months into this, company, we continue to hold share where I think you've seen almost 10,000 hotel rooms open up in the market company. So look, if there's always tomorrow, we're not overly cocky about it, but we do think we've done a good job deploying the 200 tables we got. Company is about 150 in play with 50 more to go, and I think that will help our share story as we get to the second half of the year. Hubert, anything to add?

Speaker 13

Yes. Thank you, Bill. Other than the table and floor optimization you talked about, company. I think that we are also looking at sales team expansion. Obviously, I think that this is going to be very important for acquisition, another thing is that we're going to leverage our network that MGM Resort has internationally company to push the overseas market, I think that we have already made a lot of progress, and we're going to open more offices and double our headcounts, company, sales and marketing people in these areas.

Speaker 13

Other than that, I think capital projects and enhancement remain a very important element company to improve our customers' experience, particularly at the premium app side. So we are looking at, for example, at MGM Macau site, we're going to do a villa company's call is being recorded. And there are also a lot of non gaming programs and products that we're going to Either Renovate or BUT under the retendering concession commitment. So there are a lot of things that we are company. And focusing on to defend our market share.

Speaker 13

Just to give you some color on the recovery, I think our July company. Results are very strong, robust and it's showing continuous improvement on a lot of fronts and a lot of KPIs company vis a vis 2nd quarter. So whether it's debit GGR or mass GGR recovery rates company and even EBITDA recovery, so we're looking at higher numbers than the Q2. So I'm very optimistic company On the balance of the year in terms of recovery and the financial results.

Speaker 5

Thank you.

Speaker 8

Great. Thanks everyone for

Speaker 5

the color.

Operator

And our next question will come from Robin Farley with UBS. Please go ahead.

Speaker 15

Great. Thanks. I just wanted to follow-up on the Marriott agreement. It seems like a great distribution agreement. They describe it as a franchise agreement, which would suggest that you're paying company.

Speaker 15

A share of rooms revenue from you mentioned you expect them to fill maybe 5% to 7% of the lowest rooms. Are you paying a share of room revenues from the other 90 plus percent of rooms in the agreement? Thanks.

Speaker 2

Company. Robin, the whole agreement is basically a hybrid, given the nature of Las Vegas, given our occupancies. And so yes, we're paying fees on some rooms, not all. And so, look, I think you long understand the nature of the story here and what we've been able to do. Well, there was Hyatt was more of just a loyalty program, this goes a little deeper and longer, which we're excited by, but it is rewarded on performance.

Speaker 2

So the more room nights they drive and the more room nights they bring us, The better they do and ultimately I think the better we will do, but it's a hybrid deal. It wouldn't be in the general context of how you think about a franchise agreement.

Speaker 15

So not a share of revenues on the rooms that you already fill yourself. Is that the way to think about it?

Speaker 4

Yes. We're not going to go into the details of the agreement. We actually feel like we've been pretty company In terms of what we think they'll deliver, what they think they'll deliver in terms of rooms and the incremental value associated with those rooms on a net company. So that's as far as we're going to go in terms of describing the transaction.

Speaker 15

Company. Okay. Thank you. Thanks for the color.

Operator

Our next question will come from John DeCree with CBRE. Please go ahead.

Speaker 8

Good afternoon, everyone. Thanks for taking my questions. In your prepared remarks, company. You mentioned about the A's in the backyard for you guys. So maybe a little bit further looking, but are there company, your potential reinvestment opportunities on the south end of the Strip for your properties that might company.

Speaker 8

Make ROI sense now that maybe didn't previously, is there things that you're starting to consider and that you might be able to do company with that potential anchor down there in your backyard.

Speaker 2

John, thanks for the question. I think the answer is yes to a degree. I mean, we're going to keep company The velocity of capital we spend in Las Vegas when we're sitting here, particularly on that corner when we own all three properties in measure. Company. Having said that, it's $1,500,000,000 stadium that's going to deliver 100 of 1,000 of new folks.

Speaker 2

MGM is 30 years old and needs some love anyways. We're not pleased about the way it all connects right now. So we'd like to work on connectivity on that corner. We'd like to work on particularly the front end of MGM. We think company.

Speaker 2

The further you get away from the elevators, the worse the property gets, not the better. And we'd like to think our front door could be enhanced, and I know it can. And this will be a catalyst to that dialogue, company, where we go and how much time to tell. But yes, we do think there's an opportunity there.

Speaker 8

Thanks, Dale. Maybe one more also circling back to the prepared remarks, if you could provide a little bit of color, there's obviously been strength on the strip company at the luxury properties that you gave us some color on, but smaller piece of the business perhaps than on luxury properties, if you could company, give us a little color as to what you're seeing there in terms of just differential from Luxury Properties, if you'd call it company. Softness and what opportunities are there? Is it economic? Is it still just that midweek occupancy that needs to come back as conventions company, roll in and citywide fill ups or kind of how are you thinking about those other properties that could maybe see some opportunities?

Speaker 2

John, I'll kick it off and turn it to Corey because he knows this more intimately. But I would say this, Park is enjoying its best year ever by far. And so it sits in the epicenter with T Mobile of activity. And we see bleed over from Luxor Sure, when conventions are there, obviously, we'll see bleed over Luxe or Excalibur when sports kick when football kicks back up. New York, New York is enjoying a decent year.

Speaker 2

So it's a little bit of a mixed bag, but generally, Corey?

Speaker 3

Yes. I think in general, there's plenty of demand to fill the properties. It just comes to the rate on midweeks. And in particular, when you look at Luxor and Excalibur, they've been impacted company by Mandalay's Construction going on over there. So they haven't had the flow over from those convention room nights.

Speaker 3

When there are conventions in town, we have pricing even at those pricing power even at those properties. Company. But the summer has been a little bit low on the convention business, not just for us, but from what we've heard from some of our competitors. But we're still happy with the occupancy we're seeing in there.

Speaker 8

Great. Thanks so much guys.

Speaker 16

Company in 4 quarters, just wondering how you're thinking about the pace of repurchases as we get through the back half of the year and then beyond? Thanks.

Speaker 4

Yes. Thanks for the question. This is an important part of our capital allocation program. It has been now for company over 2 years, we try to be consistent, but also opportunistic depending upon where we see Company's earnings call is expected to be a share as compared to our own estimated value of the Company and this quarter was company is aggressive, although not terribly more so than the Q1. This will continue to be a part of our capital allocation company's financial results and the pace will be dictated by the market as well as some of the other opportunities that we have before us.

Speaker 4

But company, we do have close to $2,000,000,000 still of excess cash on the balance sheet. And one of the best We think at our valuation right now, one of the best homes for that capital is repurchasing our own shares.

Speaker 16

Great. Thanks. And then wanted to go back to Macau to Hubert. Nice to hear about the quarter and that July is trending in the right direction. Company.

Speaker 16

We've seen that the State Council recently published a 20 point measure to potentially expand consumption in China. I think we've all been waiting for a resumption of that farther out traveler or visitor non Guangdong to come back to the market. So 2 part question on that. First off, do you think this could be the catalyst that gets them going and what would be? Company.

Speaker 16

And then secondly, do you need that customer to come back or given your results that you're showing right now, are you pretty happy with the current customers that you have in properties.

Speaker 4

Thanks. Yes. I think that's

Speaker 13

a great question. I think the stimulation package that the government institute company in China, I think it's going to be another push for the mass segment and particularly at the mid to lower end of mass. Company. This market, frankly, I think that is so far driven by the premium mass segment. Company But I think the longer term recovery or growth will be a broad spectrum, much broader spectrum than just that, particularly with all the non gaming programs that all the concessionaires Implementing, I think that the demand will come from a lot of that will come from the lower to mid end of the math.

Speaker 13

Company. I think we are already moving beyond recovery. We are talking about growth. So we are focusing on all segments. Of course, premium mass, given the profit footprint, etcetera, I think we focus on that.

Speaker 13

But a lot of company bodes well for us as well in the coming months and quarters for

Speaker 4

the business growth. Company. Thank you very much. Appreciate it.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes our question and answer session. I'd like to turn the conference back over to Bill Hornbuckle for any closing remarks.

Speaker 2

Thank you, operator. Just quickly before you all go, Look, I think you've heard, we continue to have a really strong top line story in Las Vegas. It's led by event activity. It's led by Luxury, Which we again to Jonathan's comment, 80% of our earnings are coming from the Luxury segment and sector. You heard us talk about Marriott, Think about what we just did.

Speaker 2

We've just partnered with the world's largest hospitality organization and with 180,000,000 members company directly tied to our programs and ultimately to our properties. BetMGM is now at inflection point. Company, you heard us talk about margin retention and margin stabilization going forward. I think we're at the numbers we should and want to be both in Las Vegas and regional, company and we'll continue to work towards that end. You heard about our balance sheet being in great shape and the value that it presents to shareholders, particularly given the trading multiple that we're at company remains very opportunistic in our view, but it sits there loud and clear.

Speaker 2

So for that, I thank you for all your support in your ear

Operator

conference has now concluded. Thank you very much for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.

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