APA Q2 2023 Earnings Call Transcript

There are 19 speakers on the call.

Operator

Good day, and welcome to the APA Corporation's 2nd Quarter 2023 Results Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. After the speaker presentation, there will be a question and answer Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over To your speaker, Mr. Gary Clark, Vice President of Investor Relations.

Operator

The floor is yours, sir.

Speaker 1

Good morning, and thank you for joining us on APA Corporation's 2nd Quarter 2023 Financial and Operational Results Conference Call. We will begin the call with an overview by CEO and President, John Christmann. Steve Riney, Executive Vice President and CFO, will then provide further color on our results and outlook. Also on the call and available to answer questions are Dave Purcell, Executive Vice President of Development Tracy Henderson, Executive Vice President of Exploration and Clay Bretches, Executive Vice President of Operations. Our prepared remarks will be less than 15 minutes in length, with the remainder of the hour allotted for Q and A.

Speaker 1

In conjunction with yesterday's press release, I hope you had an opportunity to review our financial and operational supplement, which can be found on our Investor Relations website at investor. Apacorp.com. Please note that we may discuss certain non GAAP financial measures today. A reconciliation of the differences between these non GAAP financial measures and the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures can be found in the supplemental information provided on our website. Consistent with previous reporting practices, adjusted production numbers cited in today's call are adjusted to exclude non controlling interest in Egypt and Egypt Tax Barrels.

Speaker 1

I'd like to remind everyone that today's discussion will contain forward looking estimates and assumptions based on our current views and reasonable expectations. However, a number of factors could cause actual results To differ materially from what we discuss today. The full disclaimer is located with the supplemental information on our website. And with that, I'll turn the call over to John.

Speaker 2

Good morning and thank you for joining us. On today's call, we will review Q2 highlights and discuss our outlook for the rest of the year. APA delivered strong results and made notable progress on a number of fronts during the quarter, Most specifically, with regard to drilling and completion efficiencies in the U. S. And Egypt, a reduction in year over year per unit LOE and G and A costs, working capital improvements in Egypt and the appraisal of Crab Dagu in Suriname.

Speaker 2

We also delivered on our production goals with total adjusted production of 325,000 BOE per day coming in at the high end of our guidance range. This was driven by good Permian Basin and Egypt oil performance, Partially offset by price related dry gas curtailments in the Permian and unscheduled compressor downtime in the North Sea. Total adjusted oil production of 154,000 barrels per day exceeded our guidance by 4,000 barrels per day, driven mostly by the U. S. Capital investment during the period was in line with guidance as our average operated drilling rig count remained steady at 17 in Egypt, 5 in the Permian Basin and 1 semisubmersible in the North Sea.

Speaker 2

As previously planned, We released the Ocean Patriot in the North Sea at the end of June. U. S. Oil production increased by 6% compared to the first in the Permian is delivering substantial efficiencies and oil production increases, which we expect will continue, Though the timing and size of pad completions can result in a lumpy production profile. APA's Permian rig activity is directed toward oil development in the Southern Midland Basin, where we currently have 2 rigs operating And oil weighted development in the Delaware Basin where we currently have 3 rigs operating.

Speaker 2

As we noted on our last call. We are deferring additional drilling and completion activity at Alpine High until natural gas and NGL prices improve. That said, the most recent wells placed online at Alpine High are performing in line with expectations, and we look forward to returning to work there in the future. Turning now to Egypt. Gross oil production of 100 and 41,000 barrels per day was in line with our guidance.

Speaker 2

Drilling efficiencies, new well connections, Recompletions and exploration success were all consistent with our expectations for the quarter. As a result, we are projecting gross oil production will be up 5% in the 3rd quarter to 148,000 barrels per day, And we are making good progress toward our 4th quarter guide of 154,000 barrels per day. In the North Sea, 2nd quarter production of 42,000 BOEs per day was well below our guidance due to the previously mentioned compressor downtime. We expect volumes to increase in the Q3 to a range of 46,000 to 48,000 BOE per day, driven by higher operating efficiency and the positive impact of our Store North well, which went on production in late June. In Suriname Block 58, we are currently focused on appraising last year's Crabdagou discovery.

Speaker 2

As previously noted, we have completed testing at Crabdagou II and results were consistent with our pre drill expectations. At Crabdagoo III, we are in the pressure buildup phase and data collected thus far is very encouraging. The DD3 semisubmersible rig is still on location and will be released upon completion of operations. We believe that no additional appraisal or exploratory drilling is necessary in the Sapacara and Crabdagou area at this time. Looking ahead to the second half of the year, we expect growing programs to remain constant in both the U.

Speaker 2

S. And Egypt As a steady operational cadence in these areas enables more efficient operations. That said, we have reduced Our full year upstream capital investment outlook to reflect previously noted North Sea platform drilling reductions, No additional drilling in Suriname this year and some minor service cost declines. We are also reducing our full year LOE outlook From $1,500,000,000 to $1,400,000,000 which reflects our ongoing success in actively managing these costs down as well as some price decreases associated with shorter cycle items such as diesel and chemicals. APA remains committed to returning at least 60% of our free cash flow this calendar year to shareholders.

Speaker 2

During the first half of the year, we generated $366,000,000 of free cash flow, 94% of which We returned to shareholders via dividends and stock buybacks. Since the commencement of our share repurchase program in October of 2021, We have repurchased nearly 20% of total shares outstanding at an average price of just under $34 per share. In closing, we believe the investment case for APA and the E and P industry is strong And that the longer term outlook for hydrocarbon prices is very constructive. APA has a diversified portfolio and the operational flexibility to quickly respond to commodity price volatility and other externalities. We are committed to our shareholder returns framework and to allocating capital for the long term benefit of investors.

Speaker 2

APA seeks to produce oil and gas safely and to reduce the environmental impact of our operations. Last month, we issued our 2023 sustainability report, which highlights recent achievements on these fronts, as well as our current ESG goals and initiatives. I encourage all of you to review this report, which you can find on our website. And with that, I will turn the

Speaker 3

call over to Steve Riney. Thanks, John. For the 2nd quarter, Under Generally Accepted Accounting Principles, APA reported consolidated net income of $381,000,000 or $1.23 per diluted common share. As usual, these results include items that are outside of core earnings. The most significant of which, our mark to market appreciation is the value of our Kinetic stock ownership and unrealized gain on WAHA basis swaps.

Speaker 3

Excluding these and other smaller items, adjusted net income for the 2nd quarter was $264,000,000 or $0.85 per diluted common share. Free cash flow, which for external purposes excludes changes in working capital, was $94,000,000 in the quarter. Through dividends and share repurchases, we returned 131% of this amount to shareholders during the quarter. As John noted, both operational and cost performance were very good during the quarter. Compared to the same quarter last year, total adjusted oil production was up 14%.

Speaker 3

Adjusted oil mix Increased from 44% to 47%, and we held lease operating expenditures nearly flat. G and A expense was $72,000,000 significantly below our underlying actual run rate cost. This is a result of APA's lower stock price at the quarter end and the mark to market impact on previously accrued share based compensation. Underlying quarterly G and A costs remain stable around $100,000,000 Switching to forward looking guidance. Oil production is expected to increase significantly in the 3rd quarter in all three of our operating regions.

Speaker 3

Our full year guidance Oil production will increase again in the Q4 in both the U. S. And Egypt. Declines at the mature Qasr gas field In Egypt and at Alpine High, where we have deferred drilling and completion activity, will result in total company natural gas Production continuing to decline through the rest of this year. Next, I would like to provide some Color related to our changing guidance for profit or loss on our gas transport obligations.

Speaker 3

As most of you know, we hold just over 670,000,000 cubic feet per day of Permian Basin takeaway capacity. We sell our produced gas in basin and we manage the transport obligation by purchasing 3rd party gas in basin for resale on the Gulf Coast. We realized a net trading margin based on the price differentials less the total transport cost. Since the transport cost is mostly fixed, this activity will generate a profit when price differentials are wide and a loss when they are narrow. In the Q2, this activity generated a net profit of $13,000,000 As we have all seen, The differential between Waha and Gulf Coast pricing has compressed dramatically since late May.

Speaker 3

Based on the forward strip, We anticipate these trading activities will result in a small loss in both the 3rd and 4th quarters, and we have adjusted our guidance accordingly. The flip side of this is that we are now getting higher realizations on our gas produced and sold in the Permian Basin. We commenced deliveries under our Cheniere gas supply agreement on August 1. At current strip prices, This contract will generate approximately $120,000,000 of free cash flow for the last 5 months of 2023 and an estimated $385,000,000 for the full year of 2024. As you know, these cash Flows are likely to be volatile from quarter to quarter.

Speaker 3

As a reminder, these projections are net of all costs, including the cost to acquire and transport the gas to Cheniere. Our complete guidance for both the Q3 and updated full year 2023 can be found in our financial and operational supplement. Finally, a brief comment on Egypt receivables. We have a long standing well functioning relationship with Egypt based on nearly 30 years of working in their country. Like many parts of the world today, they are experiencing some challenging financial times, and we will partner with them through that process just like we have in the past.

Speaker 3

Since the Q1 earnings call, we have had very constructive conversations with Egypt. As a result of steps already taken, the receivables balance came down in the 2nd quarter, and we are confident further steps will keep this on the right track. In closing, our original full year production guidance is unchanged, and we have reduced our 2023 budget capital and operating expense In aggregate, by about $250,000,000 Our balance sheet and debt maturity profile are in good shape, And this was most recently recognized by Moody's, who returned us to investment grade in June. Since the beginning of 2021, We have significantly improved our capital structure by reducing our outstanding bond debt by $3,200,000,000 while also returning $2,900,000,000 to shareholders via share repurchases and dividends. And with that, I will turn the call over to the operator for Q and A.

Operator

Thank you. Our first question will come from the line of Doug Liggett with Bank of America.

Speaker 4

Gosh, good morning, guys. I'll take that. But thanks for

Speaker 5

Good morning, Doug. Yes.

Speaker 4

It's more exotic than it probably should be, but good morning, John. So Couple of things from me. So I want to ask about Egypt, not about the working capital progress, which is terrific. I think you've addressed that, Steve, with your commentary. But I want to ask about the confidence in the medium term oil growth trajectory in Egypt.

Speaker 4

That seems to be the only knock on the quarter is that folks are maybe a little questioning whether you can actually deliver that. So How is that progressing? What is the outlook today? And I've got a follow-up, please.

Speaker 5

Yes, Doug, the nice thing being early August, We have the luxury of seeing a lot of the wells we've got coming on in the near future. And if you look and you won't see it, but our July volumes have We averaged 145,000 barrels a day on the oil side. So we're up already in July over the second quarter And we've got good line of sight on what's coming and it's going to be a good back half of the year and I'll let Dave Purcell He'll jump in with a little bit more detail.

Speaker 6

Yes. Doug, as John alluded or John said, the gross oil at 145 In July, it gives us confidence. We have a couple other data points. We've had good success on exploration in both the Matru and the Abigorated Basin, so we have good line of sight on the well stock remaining through the rest of the year that will come online. If you look at expected wells online in the back half of the year, it's significantly higher than the front.

Speaker 6

So just some numbers. First half of the year, we brought 48 wells online. Back half of the year, we expect to put over 70 wells online. So More wells, high quality, good confidence in what those wells look like. So again, our confidence in the back half guidance It is very good, very high.

Speaker 6

And what about beyond 2023, Dave? Yes. We continue to look At the 2024 plan, we're too early to give guidance, but we have confidence in the ability to keep the growth engine moving.

Speaker 4

Great stuff. Thank you for that. John, I apologize I'm going to have to be predictable. But so Totalis having its Analyst At the end of September, I think they've given a pretty good steer that they're going to have something to say there on Suriname. So I know you don't want to front run that, but I do want to ask you about resource scale to the extent you can and what you know today.

Speaker 4

And I'll frame it like this. When Riza II was sanctioning Guyana with similar GORs, the capacity of the development, 600,000,000 barrels, 120,000 barrels a day. From everything we know, especially with Baja and the connectivity there, Tell me why resource of that scale is wildly off the mark?

Speaker 5

I mean, at this point, a couple of things, Doug. Number 1, we still have the rig on location, so it's early. Number 2, we came into this year with the primary objective being appraising the Crabdagou Fairway. And you had the original discovery well. If I flip over, it's a totally different set of partners In Block 53, but we had when we announced the Baja discovery, we said it was a downdip low above that fairway.

Speaker 5

So yes, it does Stretch from there all the way now back to Crabdagoo III. Crabdagoo III was 14 kilometers from the discovery well. And as we've said, the results are very, very encouraging. We do we can confirm it's oil, But it's early for me to comment or say anything at this point. We've got a lot of technical work to do.

Speaker 5

It's a very large fairway And there will be resource in there that you're not going to see from the flow test. So there's just a lot of technical work that we need to do and we'll come back in due course with Information in the relatively near future.

Operator

Thank you. One moment for our next question. And that will come from the line of John Freeman with Raymond James. Your line is open.

Speaker 5

Hi, guys. Good morning, John.

Speaker 7

Yes. The first topic I want to address was on the shareholder returns. You returned the 131 percent of free cash flow this quarter. Last quarter, you did 81%. So I'd just be curious kind of Your thought process and kind of how you all determine when it's the appropriate time to kind of really lean into shareholder returns like Obviously, that was more than double the minimum 60% target that you all have.

Speaker 7

So just sort of how you all think about when it's appropriate time to kind of lean into these things?

Speaker 8

Yes, John, this is Steve. If I step back and take a look at the year, We always plan that the second half free cash flow would be greater than the first half. And that's going to come from production growth, it's going to come from the Cheniere contract, it's going to come from a lower amount of capital spending that we'll have in the And now as we look at actual prices for the first half and anticipated prices for the second half price will also be A benefactor there. So to address one potential concern that maybe we've done Most of our share buybacks in the first half, I'd say the second half, there's still plenty of buybacks We've always said the 60% is a minimum. And I think every time period that we would look at, We've exceeded that minimum.

Speaker 8

We did in that Q4 of 2021. We did it for the full year of 2022 and certainly doing it First half of twenty twenty three. And I'd just say, we did front end we chose to obviously to front end load The buyback program in 2023, I just say that we're very happy with the share prices that we got, especially in the second quarter. And we'll see what the second half of the year brings for us.

Speaker 7

Okay. And then my follow-up just kind of following on to Doug's questions on Egypt. Just sort of what you all identified in terms of the you got the mature natural gas field that's declining to that oil mix As we've seen now for the last three quarters, it just keeps inching up. It looks like just ballpark that For 2024, like something in that like 65% kind of oil mix would be possible. Just sort of any commentary about how you all see That oil mix sort of continue to evolve as it continues to ramp up.

Speaker 5

John, that's a great point. I mean, as costs are continued To decline, you will see our oil mix in Egypt rise. And if you go back, Kosser's legacy, large field, 3Ts, It's been on decline and it is declining. And so as costs continue to decline and our programs are in the more oily driven Areas, you'll see that mix rise. And so it's early.

Speaker 5

I don't want to get into 'twenty four, but it wouldn't surprise me and I wouldn't probably anticipate that the oil mix

Operator

That will come from the line of Neal Dingmann with Churit Securities. Your line is open.

Speaker 9

Good morning, guys. John, could I ask maybe one more on Egypt just specifically, Given the ample I'm just wondering, are you seeing ample equipment and personnel that continue to run the 17 rigs? And if so, given the strong results and your Strong balance sheet. Any thoughts to boost activity next year?

Speaker 5

Neal, it took us a little bit of time last year with Training programs to kind of get the program where we wanted it. We're there today. So we feel good about that. We've put a lot of training in place. I think right now, 'seventeen, 'eighteen rigs is a pretty good number.

Speaker 5

I think it's about all that's in country and from a staffing perspective. I think we're in a pretty good place and you're seeing us finally get the results and the Efficiency is where we were hoping we'd get to. So we feel like we're in a good place and right now that's what I see for the foreseeable future.

Speaker 9

Very good. And then my second for you guys is just on the Southern Midland. Could you speak to now have you changed or are you walking up the average size, lateral length? It seems like some of your peers are continuing to Got a larger wells, larger pads to try to get more efficiencies. I'm just wondering if you're on the same mindset.

Speaker 5

Yes. We came into this year really with our programs focused On the longer laterals, a lot of 2 and 3 milers. So Dave, I think you've got little more colors or some statistics there.

Speaker 6

Yes. So just on the Permian in general, we continue to walk lateral length higher. If you look at last year, we averaged just over 10,000 feet. This year, we're going to average closer to 10,500 feet foot per lateral. Again, there's variance.

Speaker 6

There's some 3 milers and there's some 1.5, but on average, the program is And in 2024, we anticipate the lengths will continue to inch a little bit Longer as well. And I think on the frac size, we've tended to lean to a little bit looser spacing and larger individual frac Sage size and have had good success with that. And so I don't know that we'll get any bigger, but We're pretty comfortable with where we are on our completion designs at this point.

Operator

Thank you. One moment for our next question. That will come from the line of Scott Gruber with Citigroup. Your line is open.

Speaker 10

Yes, good morning. I'm a peer around the corner a little bit 2 here in the 24 on the U. S. Side, it looks like implied in the full year guidance that your U. S.

Speaker 10

Oil production can Continue to decline in 4Q, you may be getting to the mid-80s. How should we think about 2024 at this juncture in terms of oil growth In the U. S?

Speaker 5

It's early in terms of numbers. I mean, we typically don't start getting into 2024. I can tell you, we're working the 2024 plan and A lot of detail right now that we start getting into reviewing that and so forth in the fall. I would anticipate pretty Level activity sets from where we are today. And so if you look at that with the programs we're delivering and The types of laterals we're drilling, I would expect fairly similar increments of growth, maybe on a little higher base In terms of the with the volume that we're growing this year, but it's always lumpy when you're running 5 rigs with the timing.

Speaker 5

And so I don't know how the timing will line up year over year, Q4 over Q4, some of those numbers, but I would expect a very strong continuous program In the U. S. And in Egypt for 2024.

Speaker 10

And if deflation and service costs Here in the States, if that turns out to be more material, do you end up recycling that back into more drilling? Or would you kind of keep the program the same even in light of that deflation and just reap the benefits in terms of greater free cash?

Speaker 5

I mean, I would say right now the plans would be to take the program and let the program dictate because 5 rigs, we're working with 1.5 frac crews. We're in a pretty good cadence there. It's hard to just And incrementally without going up in stair step function. So I would anticipate that the service side, whatever benefits there would There would come to free cash flow and the program will be pretty stable. We do try to go in every year with a pretty set The framework on the capital side and so a lot of what's going on this fall will dictate what our service costs will look like For the portions that we will try to lock down for next year.

Speaker 5

So we'll just have to wait and see how things play out. And clearly, you've had a little bit of softening in some areas Right now, but I think everybody is waiting to kind of see what prices do the back half of the year to really steer next year's capital.

Operator

Thank you. One moment for our next question. That will come from the line of Charles Meade with Johnson Rice. Your line is open.

Speaker 11

Good morning, John, to you and your whole team there.

Speaker 5

Good morning, Charles.

Speaker 11

John, I have to say I'm eager to as I'm sure you guys all are to see all the or to learn about all the appraisal results You better recognize we're going to have to wait a little bit. So I want to instead ask about Baja and specifically What your plans are or what the considerations are for appraisal there? I recognize that you guys said it's In the same depositional system as the Crabbeau and perhaps as part of talking about your plan for appraisal, could you also address it, Is it also one of these shelf slope kind of targets or has it is are you maybe starting to hit the transition into the Basin 4 fans out there.

Speaker 5

I can let Tracy in a second get in a little bit to the geology, but what I'll just tell you first Baja, it is a discovery that we discovered the discovery well is in Block 53, where we have a separate set of partners as opposed to Block 58 where it's us in Total. We are the operator of Block 53. And so I can't say a lot at this point other than we've got a lot of work to do in terms of does potentially flow into An oil hub in Block 58 or does it make up its own project in Block 53? So at this point, I can't say a lot there other than obviously there's a lot of work being done, a lot of different angles looked at. And Tracy, I'll have you chime in a little bit on the geology.

Speaker 12

Sure. Good morning, Charles. I think great question on the Fairway and your initial assessment there about being sloped channel systems So what we're describing is a fairway and as John mentioned in his remarks, something we've defined now that's roughly 25 kilometers from Baja to Crabdagou 3. So you've got a very robust system that's coming through here in a series of Slope channels that you can tell from our original release at Crabdagoo 1, which are stacked systems. So correct in your assessment, we're seeing Slope Channel Systems.

Speaker 12

As John said, we've got more technical work to do. We still got a well on location and a lot of work to integrate going forward.

Speaker 11

Thank you, Tracy. Thank you, John. That's it for me.

Speaker 5

You bet.

Operator

Thank you. One moment for our next question. That will come from the line of Roger Read with Wells Fargo. Your line is open.

Speaker 13

Yes. Thank you. Good morning.

Speaker 5

Good morning, Roger.

Speaker 13

Good morning, John. Just like to ask about Egypt and Not from an operational standpoint, but it's been more financial, I don't know if I'd call it risk or just it's Egypt being Egypt. But I was just curious how things are going in terms of your ability to fund the operations in the country, return capital out of the country as needed or as desired and anything else we should be watching there?

Speaker 5

No, I mean as Steve mentioned in his prepared remarks that Egypt and a lot of places around the world right now are going through some difficult times. There is Stress in the system as you look at wheat prices and things. But from a standpoint of our business, it's been pretty much normal course In terms of movements and things like that and you've seen us working constructively with Egypt to make progress And we're seeing that, so.

Speaker 13

Okay. I'll take that as a good answer. And then my other question is just as you look at operations in the Permian, what would be the broader description of Sort of productivity and efficiency gains you're seeing, sort of leaving any service cost inflation or deflation aside, But just what you're seeing in terms of performance on the drilling side, on the completion stages, things like that?

Speaker 6

Yes, Roger, this is Dave. So on the drilling side, we continue To improve our drilling performance, again, there's any number of metrics, which I won't bore you with. But the drilling team is doing a good job of getting our wells down In a very efficient manner where I think you might be going is on the productivity side. Lateral lengths, as I talked about earlier, getting a little bit longer and that helps. But on the lateral length adjusted basis, Relaxed spacing and bigger fracs have been a benefit to us in getting those Lateral length adjusted productivity numbers to continue to improve and it's always hard to forecast are we going to keep getting better, but we're happy with The program so far, 2023 looks pretty good compared to 20 22 and the team we have a pretty good or very good subsurface team that continues to try to push the envelope on productivity per foot and we're striving to continue to Move that into 2024.

Operator

Thank you. One moment for our next question. And that will come from the line of Arun Jayaram with JPMorgan Securities. Your line is open.

Speaker 14

John, good morning. I wanted to get your thoughts on how the process you think will move Once you've fully evaluated the Crabdagoo III results towards the declaration of commerciality and perhaps an FID decision.

Speaker 5

Yes. I mean Arun, first of all, it's like we said, we're rigs still on location and so we've got a lot of technical work to do. But We'll come back at some point with more data. That is exactly what you just mentioned would be the steps you'd take. And we've got a lot of work to do to be in a position to do that and obviously we'll be working with our partner Total.

Speaker 5

So

Speaker 14

Got it. Got it. I mean, I just wanted to maybe follow-up there. Total has a frame agreement with the sub Provider, John, as you know, and they've raised the scope of the SURF package To over $1,000,000,000 from previously it was $250,000,000 to $500,000,000 Anything to read into that In terms of potential boat size at this point?

Speaker 5

The only thing I'd say and I'm going to defer, we'll let Total I handle those relationships and that's what they're they'll be operator, right? I'll just leave it at that. But I mean, I would say we came into this year With the goal to appraise Crabdagou because we said it could impact scope scale. And clearly, we've had a positive result at CrabDagogy 3. So, yes, it was one of the objectives with the appraisal program and the number 3 well was designed We're a very large step out to better understand potentially what type of resource we're going to have there.

Speaker 5

So got to let the technical teams do the work, But that was the objective coming into this year was to help better understand scope and scale.

Speaker 14

Great. A quick follow-up on the North Sea. John, oil prices, Brent, is now moving eclipsed 80%. What do you think Needs to happen for the North Sea to attract capital next year. And maybe just thoughts on the broader portfolio, If we get in a situation where the Northeast is not competitive, are you just comfortable with, call it, 2 legs of the stool exurnum

Speaker 9

at this point?

Speaker 5

Obviously, the nice thing is having a diverse portfolio where we've got places to put capital and We basically ran a program in the North Sea with the Ocean Patriot for 6 months. You see us in a good position in terms of sustaining and growing Company, so as we look at next year, we'll factor in what makes sense. But right now, more importantly from the North Sea's perspective, you'd need to see some stability in the You'd need to see some stability in the regime to make long term investments. And right now, we have not seen any stability. And so I would not anticipate us jumping in because prices are up and deciding to put a lot of capital in the North Sea at this point, Other than what we need to do for maintenance and integrity and safety.

Operator

Thank you. One moment for our next question. That will come from the line of Leo Mariani with ROTH MKM. Your line is open.

Speaker 15

Hi, guys. Just wanted to follow-up quickly on Suriname here. So certainly seems as though you guys have found Significant oil here, crab de goo based on the comments you've made. I understand there's more technical work to go, but I'm just Curious a little bit kind of around the thought process on kind of stopping drilling for the rest of the year. I mean, it feels like you've got Great momentum there.

Speaker 15

You found a lot of oil at the end of the day. Why get rid of the rig for the last call it 4 or 5 months of the year, why not sort of build on that momentum, drill some of the other exploration targets, just given how vast The basin is at this point in time?

Speaker 5

Yes, Leo, I mean, you've got a we've got a large block. We've got a lot of time for other Prospect areas and so forth. And I think the key was coming in. There's been a focus on let's get to a project and an oil development and that What the focus was this year and there are other prospects in the Crabdagou and Sopacara area. But at this point, we don't think it's necessary to drill those right now.

Speaker 15

Okay. And then just in terms of the U. S. Well performance, you guys talked about this a little bit. It sounds like there have been some changes to the completion design potential here with a little bit kind of wider spacing, but It seems like the oil performance there has been a lot more consistent.

Speaker 15

You guys basically said that it looks like 2023 well performance is a little better Then 22, just kind of wanted to get a little sense of what do you think the kind of running room here is on Kind of the Tier 1 Permian acreage, if you look out a handful of years, do you guys have kind of an estimate on how long you can kind of keep 5 rigs running and kind of how much inventory you have maybe in terms of kind of rig years or something?

Speaker 6

Yes. Leo, we've talked about Our visibility is kind of through the end of the decade on this run rate in this program and No change to that. So we're pleased with we're looking at a 3 to 5 year plan and pretty happy With what we have in there, so stay tuned.

Speaker 5

And the other thing I would add is if you look The evolution of the program, a lot of the stuff we're drilling today that's Tier 1, 2 years ago we had it at Tier 2, Tier 3, right? We've got a nice acreage footprint. And so you're always also looking to see the evolution of the resource. We've got strong confidence in the U. S.

Speaker 5

Inventory at this program rates.

Operator

And thank you. One moment for our next question. And that will come from the line of Jeffrey Lambujon with TPH. Your line is open.

Speaker 16

Good morning, guys. Appreciate you taking my questions. I wanted to ask my first one on U. S. Activity.

Speaker 16

Just wondering if the 2 Midland and 3 Delaware splits good to assume as part of that base case Steady activity, and if you talk about how you think about toggling that in the near term, if at all, whether in terms of inventory comparing the 2 or any other factors. I'd imagine the flexibility of the Delaware in terms of proximity to the Alpine High plays into it to some degree. If you could also maybe speak to what you want to see there on the macro or from the wells So add back any sort of

Speaker 6

capital there? Yes. Jeffrey, just a good question on the Midland versus Delaware split. If you again, as you know, rigs are fungible. We could there's no magic a Delaware rig could move over to the Southern Midland Basin.

Speaker 6

But if you think about the next 18 months or so, 2 in SMB and 3 in Delaware Basin Tends to make sense. And then the question on Alpine, it's really about not just gas price, but what gas price does it take for those wells To be competitive versus an oil rig line either in SMB or Delaware and Those are the decisions we'll be looking at as Matterhorn comes online sometime back half of next year.

Speaker 16

Okay, great. And that makes sense. And then maybe just a quick follow-up on the North Sea. I know it's already a relatively Small part of the budget and getting smaller just looking to next year with the release of the Ocean Patriot as you guys highlighted. But can you talk about what sort of operations We should think about there just in terms of steady state going forward and what that means for CapEx.

Speaker 16

It seems like year over year you could maybe be looking at something like Maybe half the spend that was originally budgeted for this year?

Speaker 5

Yes. I mean, I think if we look at the back half of 2023, we've got around $50,000,000 Of capital in the North Sea, and that's probably what you'd assume going into for each half of next year, I'd So $100,000,000 give or take is what it would look at like today roughly. I think the biggest thing there is just philosophy change. I mean we're going to be operating for Safety and integrity and managing decline and managing free cash flow. And there's still a lot of life left.

Speaker 5

I think the important thing is even by pulling the Patriot out, it doesn't really change Our timing on when we see abandonment, I think we're still well into the early 2030s. And so we're going to do as good a job with that asset managing it For

Speaker 11

free cash flow.

Operator

Thank you. One moment for our next question. And that will come from the line of Paul Cheng with Scotiabank. Your line is open.

Speaker 17

Thank you. Good morning, guys. John, maybe I got it wrong, but I think at one point, there's a number talking about your surname so far the discovery, Say around $800,000,000 bail. Just want to clarify if that is the right number and that in pace or we comfortable way and whether I assume that's not including the KRYBECCA III latest appraisal. And just want to see is That the geologist that to make what kind of reasonable recoverable way if it is in pace that we should assume any reason that Yes, won't we cover more than 50% of the resourcing pace?

Speaker 17

That's the first question.

Speaker 5

Yes. So Paul, the You get to the 800, as we've disclosed at Sapacara from the original well, the second well, we had more than 600,000,000 barrels of connected resource. That's where 6 of it comes from and then the original 200 was from the discovery well from the flow test we did there At Crabdagoo. So the 800 number is would be a connected resource in place And it's not a recoverable number, but it also does not include Crabdago 2 or Crabdagou 3 and the integration work that's going on now that will come forward. So, and Dave, you might Reference just it's really high quality rock and it'd be early to talk about actual recovery factors, but you can give some Insights there?

Speaker 6

Yes. Paul, I think if you can just look at historical recovery factors in big deepwater Discoveries to put a range on it. The recovery factors are a function of the field development plans that you have. We're going to have gas injection here and Again, there'll be a lot of pressure maintenance. These are high quality reservoirs.

Speaker 6

So I think you'd expect High recovery factors, but at this point it's way premature to try to put a number on that.

Speaker 17

I think do you have a rough estimate what's the gas cut in that $800,000,000

Speaker 6

Yes. You're talking about gas cut, Paul?

Speaker 17

Yes. What's the gas percentage or what's the oil percentage either way?

Speaker 6

Yes, I don't have that at the tip of my fingers, but we've put the GORs in the prior press releases on The Sapa Cara and the Krabbegue discovery and we've not disclosed anything yet on Krabbegue 2 or 3.

Speaker 5

Yes. Sapa Cara was 1100 GOR roughly And the discovery well at Crabdagou had a couple of different ranges from around Yes, the high teens to the high 2000s.

Speaker 17

Okay, great. And on Terminus, You've joined a number of 3 mile wells, so just want to see that is there a number you can share What percent of your inventory backlog that you could do 3 months? And what percent of your work program for the next

Speaker 6

Yes, Paul, this is Dave. I don't have that number. It's a relatively small percent of the total work We're happy with the results from our 3 milers. It's really just a question of where does the acreage footprint Allow that allow us to drill the 3 milers. You can tell just by the numbers I threw out earlier, Most of what we're drilling are 2 milers, but the team anytime we get chance to drill 3 miler we'll do it And that's just Acreage footprint, but from a modeling standpoint, it's probably best to just assume They're all 2 milers in the program.

Operator

Thank you. One moment for our next question. That will come from the line of Umank Chaudhary with Goldman Sachs. Your line is open.

Speaker 18

Hi, good morning and thank you for taking my questions.

Speaker 5

You bet.

Speaker 18

My first question is on the $100,000,000 savings from your operating cost management program. You talked about diesel and chemicals driving some savings there. Any additional color you can provide in terms of any other buckets which is driving those savings?

Speaker 6

Yes. This is Dave. If you look at it, it's really just across the board. It's a lot of things and really it's the operating team has shown really good cost discipline Through the year, we came into the year with some inflationary headwinds and the team kind of took that as a challenge And really is doing a great job in all the areas Egypt, North Sea and the U. S.

Speaker 6

And trying to keep those costs in check. And So it's diesel and chemicals are easy to see, but everything else is just a lot of little things that add up to material numbers.

Speaker 18

Thank you. And then, would echo commenced from earlier, excited to see more on Sarinam Down the road, but separately, would just love your thoughts around the M and A landscape and how does that Compare versus some of your organic opportunities here?

Speaker 5

I mean, I think in general, You've seen a couple of deals take place in the Permian. They've traded at what we viewed as pretty high valuations. Yes, you look, obviously, we've been focused organically, but you've always got to be on the lookout for things that could make sense. And obviously, that's where we are and what we do. We come in every day to try to make this company more valuable And more attractive, so.

Operator

Thank you. I'm showing no further questions in the queue at this time. I would now like to turn the call back over to Mr. John Christmann for any closing remarks.

Speaker 5

Yes. Thank you for participating on our call today. I want to close with the following thoughts. Our asset teams are executing at a high level and we have a high number of Quality wells scheduled for the back half of the year, which gives us confidence in achieving our full year production guidance. We're progressing in a positive direction in Suriname and we remain committed to our capital return program.

Speaker 5

We look forward to keeping you apprised of our progress. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you all for participating. This concludes today's program. You may now

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