Magnite Q2 2023 Earnings Call Transcript

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August 3, 2023

There are 8 speakers on the call.

Operator

Good day, and welcome to the Green Dot Corporation Second Quarter Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in a listen only mode. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Tim Willey, Senior Vice President of Finance.

Operator

Please go ahead.

Speaker 1

Thank you and good afternoon everyone. Today we are discussing Green Dot's 2nd quarter 2023 Financial and Operating Results. Following our remarks, we'll open the call for your questions. Statements and expectations regarding future results and performance? Please refer to the cautionary language in the earnings release and in Green Dot's filings with the Securities and Change Commission, including our most recent Form 10 ks and 10 Q for additional information concerning factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from the forward looking statements.

Speaker 1

During the call, we will refer to our financial measures that do not conform with generally accepted accounting principles. For the sake of clarity, unless otherwise noted, all numbers we talk about today will be on a non GAAP basis. Information may be calculated differently than similar non GAAP data presented by other companies. Quantitative reconciliation of our non GAAP Financial information to the directly comparable GAAP financial information appears in today's press release. Content on this call is property of the Green Dot Corporation and is subject to copyright protection.

Speaker 1

Now I'd like to turn the call over to George.

Speaker 2

Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining our Q2 2023 earnings call. At Green Dot, our mission is to give consumers and businesses the power to bank seamlessly, affordably and with confidence. We recognize that access to the banking system should not be a privilege. Our core value is stewardship since we take care of something for others that is Critically important to them, whether they are depositors or investors. To fulfill this mission and live up to our values, We are executing a strategy of integrating banking, technology and network platforms so that we may provide market leading financial tools at low cost.

Speaker 2

Each of these platforms are already in place. We own the bank, we own the technology and we own one of, if not the largest cash money movement and payment networks in the U. S. With our Green Dot network. In addition, we own a diverse set of distribution channels where we distribute and deposit accounts directly to consumers or through retail locations.

Speaker 2

We also support all sizes of businesses through our distribution of rapid Descartes demand deposit accounts. We facilitate cash flow management through our tax products group for thousands of additional businesses, And we support some of the largest companies in the world with sophisticated embedded financial solutions tailored to their particular needs. To fully realize the potential of this strategy, we are highly focused on integrating these assets, enhancing our technology and optimizing our product roadmap, so we can bring products to market in a more agile and timely way. So how are we doing on this journey? Jeff will cover our financial results in more detail.

Speaker 2

But for the Q2, our non GAAP revenue was up 2% compared to the same quarter in the prior year, While both non GAAP and GAAP earnings metrics declined, this decline is attributable to a variety of factors, Namely, the deconversion of several partners, the ongoing evolution of our direct business as we let several legacy brands attrit or sunset, While we focus on the growth of Go2 Bank, the impact on partner interest sharing from higher interest rates and difficult year on year comparisons as we realized several one time benefits and expenses last year. Despite these challenges and headwinds, as we move forward, We see evidence of stabilizing account trends, a growing pipeline and no shortage of opportunities for Green Dot as market for embedded finance continues to evolve and grow. Along these lines, I am pleased to confirm our newest BaaS embedded finance partner, which we have referenced in previous calls. Viridian, the global leader in human capital management technology, has selected Green Dot as a U. S.

Speaker 2

Banking partner for Dayforce Wallet, Ceridian's market leading on demand pay solution. We look forward to announcing a national launch and sharing more details of this program and partnership in the coming months. I am also very pleased to announce we have signed a meaningful new partner in our financial service center channel, which is part of our consumer segment. We are thrilled to launch a new partnership with the PLS family of financial service companies to offer Demand Deposit account among other tools and features to their customers? PLS is one of the nation's largest community based financial service providers and we have a shared commitment to providing the services and tools that Our consumers, particularly those in the LMI community.

Speaker 2

Green Dot could not be more proud to be working with Ceridian and PLS and I look forward to sharing more details on our partnerships in the coming quarters. Business development more broadly remains a key priority And as we complete the technology conversion, this is one of the areas where we are redirecting our energies and focus. While 2023 is And remain the year of execution focused on internal initiatives, 2024 will be the year of execution focused on building enduring revenue streams. On last quarter's call, our Chief Revenue Officer, Chris Ruple, spoke about how we are instituting a more uniform regimented approach to how we go about identifying and pursuing opportunities. And we are making significant strides improving this model and our pipeline, which is strong.

Speaker 2

As it relates to our long discussed technology transformation, I am pleased to share we are now nearly complete with this process having executed 7 conversion events from our legacy processor to our new platform, With the final activities expected to be completed this month. The finalization of this effort puts us in a position to operate as a more efficient, nimble and scalable company going forward. This has been a 2 plus year journey driven by our legacy processors exit from the business. It's been a challenging road for many of our team members and a consuming focus for management. While we will have post conversion cleanup work remaining, Bringing this phase of work to completion allows us to redirect our focus and energy to other priorities and opportunities, including additional enhancements to our technology and product offerings and of course growth.

Speaker 2

In addition to being stewards of consumer deposits, a responsibility we take extremely seriously, We are also stewards of shareholder capital, which is why we continue to focus on making expense management and margin expansion a part of our corporate DNA. We are making significant strides in evolving our culture to having a dedicated focus on managing cost and allocating capital with a considerate and thoughtful approach. While the current period is carrying excess costs due to the technology conversion, we expect those costs to abate as we move into 2024. We will of course continue to make investments in our regulatory responsibilities and obligations in order to better serve customers. In summary, we are making important strides on our journey, but we are only in the middle innings with plenty to do.

Speaker 2

I want to thank all of our team members, our partners and our investors for coming along with us as we execute this strategy. Now, let me hand it over to Jud.

Speaker 3

Thanks, George, and good afternoon, everyone. Overall, our consolidated results came in line with our expectations. And as George said, it's a solid quarter of progress towards our goals. I'll walk you through our key financial highlights and then I'll provide color on our updated guidance for the year. Our GAAP and non GAAP revenue for the quarter grew 1% and 2% respectively year over year, while adjusted EBITDA was down year over year for the reasons George discussed.

Speaker 3

I'll provide color on each of our segments. First, in our Consumer segment. As you know, our consumer segment is comprised of both our retail and direct to consumer distribution channels. Overall, This segment is impacted by changing consumer patterns within retail, the non renewal of a retail program and our dedicated focus on our Go to Bank brand in our direct to consumer channel at the expense of legacy brands that are now in runoff. While our retail channel is impacted by secular changes And the non renewal of a program, we are taking steps to reposition this business.

Speaker 3

Specifically, we are actively working with our retail partners on strategies that encompass a wide range of embedded account and payment experiences that are designed to help our retail partners continue to build enduring and loyal customer relationships through digital financial experiences, not just products on shelves. We also signed a new partner in PLS We are focused on making our cost structure in retail more efficient. In our direct to consumer business, We continue to fully commit our marketing spend to support our go to bank brand. And as a result, we deliberately put legacy brands such as Rush, Through our platform conversions, we had success in converting a portion of those accounts to Go2 Bank. As expected, many did not convert Attrition of these legacy brands accelerate.

Speaker 3

As a result of the attrition of legacy brands over the last 2 years And its own rapid growth, Go2bank has become a larger part of that channel and its growth rate will have a more pronounced impact as we move forward. In the Q2, Go2 Bank continued to have strong year over year growth in direct deposit accounts, up approximately 40%, which resulted in strong growth in revenue per account. With that context in place, let me provide some color on the performance of the segment during the quarter. Segment revenue was down 14%, driven by the year over year decline in active accounts. Revenue in our retail channel was down in the upper teens year over year, though I would note that excluding the impact of the non renewal, revenue declines in the retail channel were in the low teens.

Speaker 3

The direct channel saw mid single digit declines in revenue consistent with the Q1. I believe it's worth pointing out that the decline in direct deposit accounts continues to moderate with its slowest rate of decline in over a year And the smallest sequential decline that we have seen in over 2 years. This is fueled in part by some moderating decline in retail, But also in the direct channel as Go2 Bank builds momentum. Direct deposit accounts represent approximately a quarter of our total accounts in the segment And these accounts are more highly engaged with higher volumes and revenues than non direct deposit accounts. Revenue per account continues to As we drive deeper engagement rates, particularly with Go2 Bank, helping to offset the attrition in legacy portfolios.

Speaker 3

As I've said many times, this is an evolution,

Speaker 1

but we are encouraged by what

Speaker 3

we are seeing from GoTo Bank and the impact it's having on the direct channel And the increased likelihood that it can help drive continued moderation in the rate of decline for the consumer segment overall and believe that we're moving closer to an inflection point. Segment profit was down year over year by 27% Due to the decline in revenue and as we discussed last year, we negotiated numerous one time benefits in our expense structure in the first half of twenty twenty two And in particular, the Q2 of 2022, causing margin compression and making the year over year a pretty tough comparison. In the B2B segment, which consists of our BaaS and PayCAR channels, aggregate revenue growth of 26% Largely remains driven by our BaaS channel, where revenue was up approximately 30%. The growth of 1 of our larger BaaS continues to power the top line, while we face headwinds on revenue and actives from the roll off of 2 BaaS partners. In the PayCAR channel, our revenue and active account growth has moderated due to macro shifts in the temporary staffing industry, One of our primary verticals, where inflation and recession fears have impacted hiring decisions.

Speaker 3

We experienced active declines in this vertical in late 2022 through May of this year and we saw a rebound in June. Our revenue was also impacted by a shift in the mix of purchase volume that is weighing on interchange rates and changes in consumer ATM behavior. That said, strong sales activity and leading indicators in the core PayCard product as well as continued growth in our EWA offering give us confidence that momentum in this channel should reaccelerate in the coming quarters. Profit in the B2B segment was down 23% as expected, driven largely by the impact of client deconversions in the BaaS business in the dynamics I just discussed in the PayCard channel? We had margin compression from one time expense structure benefits last year similar to our Consumer segment And pressure on margins in the PayCard business due to the lower interchange rate.

Speaker 3

While we face what we believe to be temporary pressure On revenue growth, we continue to invest in the PayCard business as sales momentum has been strong, while also incurring expenses to support the launch of our newest partner? Shifting to our Money Movement segment, revenue was down 8% year over year from a decline in cash transfer volume and timing of tax refund volume? The Green Dot Network business continues to see year over year revenue declines moderate from the mid teens in 2022 to a mid single digit decline in the Q2 of 2023. Revenue declines remain driven principally from the impact of the decline in active accounts in our other segments, while continued growth from third party transactions Up year over year in the mid teens helps offset some of the overall decline. 3rd party programs now comprise over 60% of our total cash transfer volume.

Speaker 3

Our tax refund volume was down year over year because of timing shifts versus last year. On a year to date basis, revenue in our tax processing channel was up low single digits year over year. Profitability remains strong with flattish profits and some modest margin expansion in both tax and Green Dot Network. Our final segment, Corporate and Other, reflects the interest income we earn in our bank, net of the revenue share on interest we pay to VAST Partners, As well as salaries and administrative costs and some smaller intercompany adjustments. Interest income net of partner sharing was down year over year As expected, due to a higher rate environment.

Speaker 3

As a reminder, the rapidly rising rate environment of 2022 Created an imbalance between the blended yield we earn on our cash and investments and the rate we pay our VaaS partners and effectively creates a headwind for revenue in this segment. Salaries and other general and administrative expenses were up just slightly from last year as our cost cutting efforts help to offset the incremental costs associated with our technology conversions. Now turning to guidance. We are reaffirming our revenue range of $1,376,000,000 to $1,462,000,000 and expect to be above the midpoint of this range. We are narrowing our adjusted EBITDA range to $182,000,000 to $188,000,000 while keeping our midpoint at 185,000,000 Likewise, we are narrowing our non GAAP EPS range to $1.80 to 1.90 We are encouraged by our results and trends in Q2 and the progress we're making towards our goals.

Speaker 3

Turning to the back half of the year, Let me provide you with a bit more color to round out your models. At a high level, revenue should generally be evenly split between the 3rd quarter and the 4th quarter With about 40% of adjusted EBITDA and non GAAP EPS in the 3rd quarter and the balance in the 4th quarter. This would imply a bit more margin pressure in the 3rd quarter from the 2nd quarter levels before rebounding a bit in the 4th quarter. Now let me provide a bit more color on the full year financial outlook for each of the segments. In the Consumer segment, We expect revenue and segment profits to decline year over year in the mid teens.

Speaker 3

Margins for the full year should approximate the full year margins that we saw in 2022 With sequential improvements in each of Q3 and Q4. In the B2B segment, we look for revenue growth for the year to be approximately 20% with flattish segment profits. While full year margins should be down roughly 300 basis points from 2022, We should see sequential improvement in both the 3rd and 4th quarters. In the Money Movement segment, we expect revenue and profit to be essentially flat with last year. In the Corporate and Other segment, we have an earnings headwind from higher interest revenue share.

Speaker 3

In our Q4 2022 call, We provided an estimated headwind for 2023 in a range of $15,000,000 to $20,000,000 This range has increased several $1,000,000 in light of recent rate hikes. All the while, expenses should begin to reflect our progress in cutting costs as we move through the platform conversions. For the full year, I expect our non GAAP effective tax rate to be 23.5% and the diluted weighted average share count to be approximately 52,000,000 shares. With that, I'll turn it back to George.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Jess. As I look back on the first half of the year, we have accomplished quite a bit. We are in the final stretch of completing the technology platform conversions and are on track to realize our goal of 35,000,000 and cost savings and become a more nimble streamlined company. Just as important, this enables us to reallocate resources to focus on other areas and Our newest BaaS partner, Ceridian has been onboarded and we are excited to have PLS as a new Customer in our FSC channel, while also signing over 300 new customers in our PayCard and EWA business And 6 additional partners to the Green Dot network. Lastly, we took moves to further reduce our cost structure while increasing our investment in Sound regulatory compliance and we continue to be very focused on driving a culture of efficiency and smart investment throughout the organization.

Speaker 2

That said, there's still plenty of work to do, but I am pleased with where we are on our transformation and I am very grateful for the hard work and dedication of the Green Dot team as we work to deliver on our goals for 2023 and beyond, while also being good stewards of the

Operator

Your first question today comes from Ramsey El Assal from Barclays. Please go ahead. Hi.

Speaker 4

This is Shrey on for Ramsey. Thanks for taking my questions. My first question is on the B2B segment. It came in well ahead of expectations. Could you provide some insight on how much the beat was driven by the roll offs of the BaaS contract non renewal versus the growth in The remaining BaaS and PayCard business?

Speaker 3

I'll take that one. So the beat in BaaS, I think we made a reference in the prepared remarks that BaaS continues to power the top line results. In particular, one of our vast partners in principle is driving a lot of Growth and then that's helping offset some of the lost revenue from the roll off of the BaaS partners. Make sure I'm answering your question.

Speaker 4

Yes, absolutely. That's helpful. And then just as a follow-up, when and at what pace do the Associated revenues for the Ceridian signing ramp up throughout the year or is that more of a 2024 impact? And if so, how should we think about the ramp and the corresponding P and L impact for next year? Thanks.

Speaker 3

Yes. I think the impact of Ceridian in 2023 will be relatively small. These programs take a while to ramp up. So we just launched the Ceridian program. So it will have obviously a more material impact in 2024 and then PLS will launch in 2024 and ramp throughout the year.

Speaker 3

And in both in the case of both programs, there's an existing base that we will attempt to convert and then ramp new acquisition as well. So like any of our programs, it will take time for those to materialize and become more meaningful for the P and L.

Speaker 5

Got it. Appreciate it.

Operator

Thank you. Your next question comes from Michael Perito from KBW. Please go ahead.

Speaker 6

Hey, guys. Good afternoon. Thanks for taking my questions.

Speaker 2

Hey, Michael.

Speaker 6

I wanted to start on some of the segment commentary that Jess provided at the end there. I think if I heard you correctly, the B2B segment revenue year on year growth was 20%. I just want to make sure I heard that correctly and just kind of does that suggest a little bit of a year on year growth slowdown in the back half

Speaker 2

of the year is relative to where you were in

Speaker 6

the first half? Is that correct?

Speaker 3

I did say 20% year over year for the full year in 2023. With respect to second half versus first half, I have to go back and look and see what I think partly you're going to have some of these fast partners that we're rolling off. I think in our Q1 call, we did mention that we had Some impact from those programs in the Q1, and certainly that had exceeded our expectations in the Q1. And then in the Q2, those programs are essentially completely gone.

Speaker 6

Got it. Okay. And have you guys just in terms of Active accounts and deposits, have you guys quantified what's left with the programs that Are going to be gone in the next few months here in terms of when looking at the end of period kind of Q2 numbers?

Speaker 3

If my memory serves here, I believe in the BaaS channel, all those actors are gone.

Speaker 6

Got it. Okay. And then, obviously, the updated segment commentary and Guidance is helpful on the financial front. So maybe kind of a big picture question. A couple of the other more bank oriented BaaS Providers this quarter on their calls made comments about some of the competition, Not necessarily increasing, but kind of more velocity of opportunities from fallout from smaller players And other partners that were with, just curious what you guys are seeing?

Speaker 6

Has there been any notable change in the competition in the bat space in the last 90 to 100 days or so? And if so, any kind of quality opportunities in the pipeline today that maybe weren't there 6 months ago or just Wondering how that all kind of looks from your perspective.

Speaker 2

Hey, Michael, it's George. So the answer in short is yes. We think our pipeline is getting healthier. In some of the previous calls we've had, Where we've talked about the implications of the changing capital markets on our competition, I think remain relevant. Many of our competitors Raise their capital in low very low interest rate environments and then went to market aggressively based on that Low cost capital and obviously that capital is getting consumed and they're facing new capital raise obligations At a much higher rate, or they're unable to sustain their business models with respect to The capital environment.

Speaker 2

And so that's all very positive to us since we, of course, are well capitalized and Have strong cash flow and do not need to access the capital markets in any short term basis in order to compete. So I think in addition to just maybe some less well capitalized providers leaving the market, the Market, the potential market participants, the buyers, that market is increasing In the sense that there are all sorts of businesses who their businesses are changing. Retail is a classic example of this where They are having changing consumer patterns and behaviors and they're seeking to integrate financial services into those relationships. And then that legacy retailer, which was a bricks and mortar distribution point for a company like Green Dot Now might be a embedded finance Solution opportunity for us. And so there's some changing market dynamics beyond, just the capital markets as well.

Speaker 6

Good. Got it. That makes sense. Very helpful guys. Thank you for taking my question.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Michael.

Operator

Thank you. Your next question comes from Matthew Herbert from JMP.

Speaker 6

This is Matt from Jefferies. First question is Consumer Services ARPU decreased quarter on quarter. I'm just curious if you can just elaborate a little further on the dynamics there? Thanks.

Speaker 3

Yes. We had mentioned a roll off of a retail program. We mentioned it as part of our guide for the Full year earlier in our Q4 call. So that has an impact to some degree on the ARPU in the consumer services segment.

Speaker 6

Okay. So then

Speaker 2

we'll go back

Speaker 6

to that. Right. Okay. Thanks. And then just on EWA, Could you

Speaker 2

share any progress there? I know it's

Speaker 6

an exciting product and it sounded like there's some momentum that would be helpful. Thanks.

Speaker 2

Sure, Matthew. We were excited about EWA. We remain excited about EWA. The market's Spectacular opportunity for us. The growth rate on an admittedly small base was extremely high this quarter within that business unit.

Speaker 2

And importantly, there's Payroll packages. 6 months ago, our penetration into the market for payroll packages was very, very small, whereas As of the end of this quarter, we're integrated into a very substantial portion of the U. S. Addressable payroll Market, which allows our sales team to be much more aggressive in selling this product. So no change, excited before, still excited.

Speaker 2

It's going to be a great opportunity for the company over the next coming years.

Speaker 6

Got it. Thanks.

Speaker 2

You bet.

Operator

Thank you. Your next question comes from Chris Kennedy from William Blair. Please go ahead.

Speaker 5

Yes, good afternoon. Thanks for taking the question. George, I mean, you've done a lot of changes at the company and hopefully in 2024, those Kind of behind you. And when you think about how you're pivoting the company and the opportunities associated with embedded finance, how should we think about Kind of the growth of Green Dot going forward.

Speaker 2

Thank you for your question, Chris. I mean, I do hope at some level this change we're going through has an ephemeral characteristic to it so that it Based off of that, we will always be faced with change. We are operating in a dynamic world With technological change and business pattern change. But our most immediate focus, as I've mentioned in the past, is to Get our capabilities integrated with each other so that we can provide a vertically integrated set of solutions to Partners. We're well down that path.

Speaker 2

We still have work to go. That work will continue into 2024. But as I mentioned in our prepared remarks, Keep in mind, as we come to work every day and try to motivate our team, we're focused very much on Inwardly looking technology change right now and that really consumes a lot of intellectual capability. That is about to shift and that shift is going to go from doing that sort of work to focusing Externally on our market opportunities, we are doing that today, of course. But when we spend a lot of time on Some of the changes we've been managing it just inherently takes away from some of these opportunities.

Speaker 2

So that's going to be a big shift for us. You'll see it in our messaging and our communication, In our pipeline, in our announcements. So that's going to be our focus in 2024. We're very, very excited to be shifting to that focus here in the back half of this year. Now what does it Objectively for growth, I can't guide you to any particular metric at this point, but The embedded finance market is tremendously vast.

Speaker 2

We're extremely unique. We have highly differentiated points of Product offerings and capabilities and our other businesses that we don't typically think of as embedded finance By the way, PayCard, EWA, our TPG tax processing businesses, we're all extremely We're extremely optimistic about all of those opportunities and we think those businesses are all growth businesses as well. And this year has been a difficult year As we've had some of these roll offs in our discussion today, but those are going to be behind us Shortly, our trading portfolio is going to be behind us. So we're excited about the future. We think we have a lot of opportunities to dramatically change our growth Great.

Speaker 2

So I'll stop there. I've rambled on a bit. Let you ask for follow-up.

Speaker 1

Yes. I guess,

Speaker 5

Is there going to be a time where you're going to kind of lay out what your long term growth objectives and Will be for the company?

Speaker 2

Yes, absolutely. So in the short term, I should say, first of all, our cadence is When we do our next call, reporting our Q3 results, we hope to make some additional qualitative more qualitative comments about These topics and then when we do our Q4 call in early 2024, obviously, we'll be giving guidance 24, and we hope to be able to wrap within that guidance more at least directionally On a quantitative basis about what we think the business might look like over a multiyear period.

Operator

Your next question comes from George Sutton from Craig Hallum. Please go ahead.

Speaker 7

Thank you. George, you mentioned you're in the final stretch of the tech conversion. Can you just tell us what Exactly is involved in the final stretch?

Speaker 2

We have 2 remaining conversions. So I mentioned we had 7. We've done 7. We have 2 remaining scheduled to be done in the next couple of weeks.

Speaker 7

And when you say next couple of weeks, so should be completed, I don't know how Quickly a conversion would necessarily take?

Speaker 2

Well, The poor team that has to actually execute these conversions stays on a 24 hour watch as the conversion gets managed Do an evening late at night. So it's not the work is involved in leading up to the conversion of course and preparing Forms and doing all you can to manage the process effectively. And then we The conversion happens late in the evening. So the vast majority of all the work associated with doing Each of the 9 conversions has already been complete, but nevertheless, there's 2 events remaining. But I would clarify, George, that I don't want to make this is a significant episode.

Speaker 2

I don't want to make too much of it. I mean, we will Plan to continue to enhance technology, develop new capabilities, as we deploy our product roadmap. So we're a technology company. We're going to be keep we're going to continue to have investments in technology. But that's what's involved with the conversion As they remain.

Speaker 7

Got you. Thank you. And Jess, you ran through real quick brands that You had sunsetted. Can you just walk through the brands that you sunsetted and what kind of a conversion you were able to make into the GoToBank?

Speaker 3

Yes. So we I would say the 2 primary brands that we sunset, one was called RushCard, which Green Dot had acquired back in 2017, I believe, and then, Count Now, which is a program that was acquired back in 20 Team, so both purely direct to consumer businesses. I think we've when you try to convert Existing customers to a new product like GoToBank, this is not unique to us. There's a generally, you're not going to get the vast majority of those accounts to migrate. So I'd say with the count now, we had less success and more success with Rush.

Speaker 3

But generally, the rule of thumb is somewhere between 10% to 30% is going to convert.

Speaker 2

Got you. Okay. Thanks, guys. Thank you, George.

Operator

Thank you. Your next question comes from Joel Rykers from Truer Securities. Please go ahead.

Speaker 1

Hi, guys. This is Joel on for Andrew. I was just wondering if you could provide some Info regarding the cadence of the GoToBank marketing ramp and then whether or not you think that's going

Speaker 3

to need to be followed by a

Speaker 1

period of additional investment to Kind of bring the Brock product to scale or I mean if that's just going to be fully addressed by the tech conversion. If you could just provide some color there that would be great.

Speaker 2

Sure, Joel. I'll start. I hope I cut your question. I hope I'm not being obtuse as I tried to answer it. But If I understood the first part of your question was what is the kind of the cadence of the marketing spend on GoToBank?

Speaker 2

And I think we've mentioned in the past, we spent somewhere in the neighborhood of $40,000,000 to $50,000,000 A year on direct to consumer marketing and what we very specifically mean by that, we do specific targeted marketing For distribution of our direct to consumer products, Go2bank. So that could take the form of direct to consumer mail, TV Spot, search engine optimization type work, etcetera. So that Cadence can be put in the front loaded a bit in the year, because During the tax season and when people are receiving refunds from the IRS, they're more receptive to offers of This type. So we tend to front load some of that investment and it tends to taper off towards Q3 and Q4 as a general rule. And I wouldn't expect any material changes from that general rule.

Speaker 2

And if I understood the second part of your question, Whether we expect any material increase in that investment, we target our investment based on Cost effectiveness, cost per funded accounts. And so we know that if we Are unruly in our investment in direct to consumer marketing that can drive up the price in that Particular sub distribution channel and that causes our cost per funded to go up To a point that at certain points we deem unacceptable. So generally the answer to the second part of your question is no. We don't expect any dramatic Change, certainly not in the short term in our direct to consumer marketing in Go2bank. Go2bank is growing very nicely, doing very well as a product.

Speaker 2

And we're very happy with our cost per funded accomplishments. And so We're going to be steady as she goes, I expect at least in the near term.

Speaker 1

Great. Thank you. It's super helpful. And then just in terms of Bath Contract restructuring, will the pass through revenue cause any long term drag on EBIT margin? Or do

Speaker 3

you guys think that's something that could

Speaker 1

be addressed over time Just through renegotiations?

Speaker 3

I think at least in the near term, It will continue to be a drag. It's hard to say what any renegotiations or what the ultimate economics will shake out to be. So it's hard to say what it will look like long term. But at least in the near term, it will continue to have some margin compression.

Speaker 2

Thank you. Thank you.

Operator

This concludes our question and answer session for today. I would now like to turn the conference back over to Mr. Gresham for any closing remarks.

Speaker 2

Thank you, operator. Let me just say in closing and with all sincerity, I want to Extend my heartfelt gratitude to our team members, who work so hard, to make The line is better for the consumers we serve, the partners we serve. We've had teams extraordinarily dedicated to the technology conversion we've made reference to today. And I just want to Really thank them for their hard work and sacrifices. Couldn't be more pleased with our partnerships with Ceridian and PLS All of our other partners across the organization and of course, thank you to our investors for coming along with us on this ride as we turn this company in the right direction?

Speaker 2

Appreciate it so much. Thank you for your interest in Green Dot today.

Operator

The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.

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