NASDAQ:TVTX Travere Therapeutics Q2 2023 Earnings Report $18.33 +0.70 (+3.97%) Closing price 04/25/2025 04:00 PM EasternExtended Trading$19.38 +1.05 (+5.70%) As of 04/25/2025 07:36 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. Earnings HistoryForecast Travere Therapeutics EPS ResultsActual EPS-$1.13Consensus EPS -$1.16Beat/MissBeat by +$0.03One Year Ago EPSN/ATravere Therapeutics Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$59.70 millionExpected Revenue$53.93 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$5.77 millionYoY Revenue GrowthN/ATravere Therapeutics Announcement DetailsQuarterQ2 2023Date8/3/2023TimeN/AConference Call DateThursday, August 3, 2023Conference Call Time4:30PM ETUpcoming EarningsTravere Therapeutics' Q1 2025 earnings is scheduled for Thursday, May 1, 2025, with a conference call scheduled at 4:30 PM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Q1 2025 Earnings ReportConference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfilePowered by Travere Therapeutics Q2 2023 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrAugust 3, 2023 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 13 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good day, and welcome to the Trevir Therapeutics Second Quarter 2023 Financial Results and Corporate Update Conference Call. Today's conference call is being recorded. At this time, I would like to turn the conference call over to the Vice President of Investor Relations, Naomi Eichenbaum. Please go ahead, Naomi. Speaker 100:00:19Thank you. Good afternoon, and welcome to Trevir Therapeutics' Q2 2023 financial results and Corporate Update Call. Thank you all for joining us. Today's call will be led by our Chief Executive Officer, Doctor. Eric Dube. Speaker 100:00:34Eric will be joined in the prepared remarks by Doctor. Jule Enrig, our Chief Medical Officer Peter Herma, our Chief Commercial Officer and Chris Klein, our Chief Financial Officer. Doctor. Bill Roeth, Senior Vice President of Research and Development will join us for the Q and A session. Before we begin, I would like to remind everyone that statements made during this call regarding matters that are not historical facts are forward looking statements within the Safe Harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Speaker 100:01:04Forward looking statements are not guarantees of performance. They involve known and unknown risks, uncertainties and assumptions that may cause actual results, performance and achievements to differ materially from those expressed or implied by the statement, Please see the forward looking statements disclaimer on the company's press release issued earlier today as well as the Risk Factors section in our Form 10 Q and 10 ks filed with the SEC. In addition, any forward looking statements represent our views only as of the date such statements are made August 3, 2023, and Travir specifically disclaims any obligation to update such statements to reflect future information, events or circumstances. With that, let me now turn the call over to Eric. Speaker 200:01:48Eric? Thank you, Naomi, and good afternoon, everyone. In the first half of twenty twenty three, we made significant progress on our corporate strategy of delivering new treatment standards from our pipeline of innovative medicines people living with rare disease. Our progress has been led by the ongoing successful launch of Vilspari or sparsentan. ZILFARI is the 1st and only non immunosuppressive therapy approved for the reduction of proteinuria in adults with IgA nephropathy or IgAN at risk of rapid disease progression. Speaker 200:02:20We believe that ZILspari holds the potential to help 30,000 to 50000 addressable IgA patients And our field teams continue to hear from nephrologists that their experience with VILSPARI is reflective of an efficacy and safety profile demonstrated and the interim readout from the PROTECT study. In fact, last week, I spent a day in the field with a Vilspari sales representative visiting community nephrologists. One physician shared a compelling patient story about a young woman with IgAN at risk of rapid disease progression and struggling with proteinuria levels above 2 grams per day Despite treatment with several therapies, after a few short weeks on tolsparigproteinuria level had significantly dropped below 1 gram per day. The physician noted that these types of results provide them with confidence to prescribe TYLSPARI to a greater number of their addressable patients with IGAN. We are encouraged to hear this positive feedback from the field and the nephrologists are both re prescribing and proactively identifying more eligible These insights on physician feedback and demand provide us with confidence and the potential of Vilspari to ultimately become a new treatment standard for IgAN. Speaker 200:03:33In the Q2 of 2023, We executed on our Filspari launch strategy and are observing strong performance on the 2 most important indicators of success. Demand reflected in the growth of patient start forms or PSS and patient access driven by increasing and broader payer coverage. In fact, we delivered the highest number of PSFs in the 1st quarter launch since launch amongst other rare renal launch benchmarks. Later this year, we expect to announce The complete results from the PROTECT study that we believe will have the potential to support traditional approval and the potential for a broader label of Filspari and IGAN. The study is ahead of our initial guidance and we now expect a top line readout from PROTECT late in Q3 or early in Q4. Speaker 200:04:26Looking beyond the U. S, we continue to work with our collaborator CSL v4. Regulatory reviews in Europe are underway for sparsentan and IGAN, and we anticipate an opinion from the CHMP around the end of this year. Our top priority is ensuring a successful launch of PILspari and we believe that we are off to a strong start. In parallel, we have also continued to make Progress on our other pipeline programs. Speaker 200:04:49We continue to believe that sparsentan may represent an important treatment option for patients with FSGS. In May, we reported top line results from the Phase 3 DUPLEX study of sparsentan and FSGS, in which sparsentan demonstrated significant and durable effects While the study did not achieve statistical significance on the eGFR endpoints, we are encouraged by the totality of data. We are scheduled to meet with the FDA to explore the potential for a future regulatory submission for sparsentan in FSGS and expect to provide an update on that discussion in the fall. Shifting to pegdevatinase. With the recent positive update from Cohort 6, We are even more confident that pegdovatinase represents a significant opportunity for us to help patients with HCU and for our company to accelerate our growth in the coming years. Speaker 200:05:47Based on our growing body of market research, we understand there to be a population of Approximately 3,500 addressable HCU patients in the U. S, a similar number in Europe and a meaningful number of patients in additional geographies. Importantly, over time, we see this addressable patient population potentially increase by 50% or more with the introduction of an innovative new therapy and advancements in diagnostics. This is why we are excited to continue focusing our efforts on this program and we are working towards initiating the pivotal study by year end. Outside of our innovative pipeline, we recently announced that we have entered into an agreement for the Sale of our bile acid product portfolio for up to $445,000,000 consisting of $210,000,000 upfront and up to an additional $235,000,000 in potential future sales based milestone payments. Speaker 200:06:43This divestment, which is expected to close during the Q3 will meaningfully strengthen our balance sheet and most importantly has clear strategic benefits for our organization. Strategically, it will enable us to focus even more clearly on the successful launch of PILspari and IGAN, pursuing a potential regulatory path for sparsentan and FSGS, the development of pegdapatinase for the treatment of HCU. We believe successfully developing Delivering on these priorities will position our medicines to become potential treatment standards, each in markets with $1,000,000,000 potential. Overall, for the Q2, I am incredibly proud of our team's performance. We continue to progress each of our Strategic priorities and have made important advancements with our pipeline of innovative products. Speaker 200:07:33We have successfully delivered a strong first full quarter of the launch laying the groundwork for our goal of enabling Filspari to ultimately become the foundational therapy in IGAN. Let me now turn the call over to Jula for a clinical update. Jula? Speaker 300:07:49Thank you, Eric, and good afternoon, everyone. I'd like to start by reflecting on the exciting developments for VASPARI in the first half of twenty twenty three and touch upon the important updates to come later this year. While there have been meaningful developments in nephrology over the last decade, IgAN remains one of the greatest unmet needs in rare kidney disease. IgAN patients are often uncontrolled and on average progress to kidney failure within approximately 11 years. Therefore, IgAN was a major focus at the recent European Renal Association or ERA Medical Congress, where the Trevir team showcased significant advancements in the field of rare kidney disease with 9 posters and presentations. Speaker 300:08:34The analyses from the U. K. National Registry of Rare Renal Diseases or RADAR demonstrated that IDAN patients will face kidney failure within their lifetime, typically occurring in a patient's late 40s. Importantly, the RADAR study confirmed the relationship between reductions in proteinuria at 9 months, which is aligned to our 36 week PROTECT study interim analysis proteinuria time point and subsequent preservation of kidney function. The landmark analysis from RADAR showed that a 50% reduction in proteinuria at 9 months reduced the rate of eGFR decline and delayed time to kidney failure or death by 8.5 years. Speaker 300:09:17These results highlight that patients with IgAN need both early and effective treatment options capable of significant Chronic reduction of proteinuria to preserve kidney function. Currently, there is only one approved non immunosuppressive therapy that has demonstrated such a rapid and sustained proteinuria reduction and early positive trends on kidney failure outcomes and that is Filspari. At the interim analysis of the PROTECT study, which supported DILSPARI's accelerated approval, we observed a 50% reduction of proteinuria from baseline compared to 15% with maximally titrated ervastatin. Additional data showed that greater proportions of patients on ervastatin as compared to FilSpari reached a 40% decline in eGFR from baseline kidney failure or death. Furthermore, new data from interim assessment of the PROTECT study presented at ERA show that a significantly greater proportion of patients on Filspari achieved complete and partial remission of proteinuria, which continued to accrue over the steady period, demonstrating the rapid and durable effectiveness of Filspari. Speaker 300:10:28We head into the upcoming 2 year top line readout from PRO2TECT with confidence. Based on the magnitude of proteinuria reduction observed with sparsentan As compared to irbesartan and encouraging trends on kidney outcomes at the interim assessment in PROTECT, We believe the trial is well powered to show a clinically meaningful and statistically significant treatment difference on eGFR at 2 years. This is well supported by the robust clinical literature from precedent studies demonstrating the relationship between proteinuria reduction and long term eGFR benefit in IGAN. Furthermore, as part of our NDA review, we provided the FDA with conditional power calculations based on trial level analyses and the available interim eGFR data. These eGFR trend analyses supported the accelerated approval of HILSPARI for We remain very pleased with the ongoing conduct of the PROTECT study. Speaker 300:11:30As Eric highlighted, we are now scheduled for top line readout in the late Q3 or early Q4 of this year. These data are expected to support the submission for traditional approval, which we anticipate should include a label expansion to reflect the broader population and long term benefits of Filspari, positioning it to become the foundational therapy in IgAN. Moving to FSGS, since we reported the results from the DUPLEX study, our team has been actively engaging with rare kidney disease experts, practicing nephrologists and Patient Advocacy Organizations. The overarching theme of these discussions is the high unmet need, the difficulty in studying a heterogeneous disease such as FSGS and strong support for the scientific rationale of sparsentan in FSGS. This broad encouragement combined with the positive trends seen in the ongoing analysis of the DUPLEX data support our justification to seek a path forward with regulators. Speaker 300:12:27A meeting with the FDA is scheduled and we expect to be in a position to provide an update from the meeting in the fall. We also are planning on presenting a more comprehensive analysis of the DUPLEX study data at a scientific meeting later this year. Moving beyond sparsentan, I'll briefly touch upon the advancement of pegtobatinase for the treatment of classical homocystinuria or HCU. In late May, we provided positive top line results from Cohort 6 of the Phase onetwo COMPOSE study. Specifically, treatment with pegtubatinase resulted in a consistent benefit across the patient population with a mean reduction in total homo-fifteen of 67.1 percent and achieved total homo-fifteen levels that according to physicians could support diet liberalization. Speaker 300:13:18This is very important for patients that are typically on a highly restrictive low protein diet. There have been no significant safety concerns reported to date with pegtobatinase. Mild injection site Related reactions were observed and managed with conservative treatment. With this emerging clinical profile, We believe that pegtobatamase can effectively replace the deficient CVS enzyme activity, addressing the high unmet need in HCU and can ultimately become the 1st disease modifying therapy for patients. Engagements with regulators are progressing well. Speaker 300:13:56We currently have alignment on the use of total homocysteine as the primary endpoint for the Phase 3 study and the focus of our ongoing regulatory engagements is to align on finalizing details of the Phase 3 program now with the Cohort 6 data in hand. We look forward to providing an update on the details of the Phase 3 study later this fall with the expectation of initiating a pivotal study by year end. With that, I'll turn over to Peter for the commercial update. Peter? Speaker 400:14:24Thank you, Juan, and good afternoon, everyone. Our ambition is to make XOLSARY the new treatment standard for iGAM patients at risk of Rapid Disease Progression. And I'm really pleased how we have started in the first four and a half months since launch to realize this ambition. We have made significant progress on our 3 strategic fundamentals that I outlined on the approval call in February. 1st, changing the treatment paradigm by educating physicians about Charles Power's novel mode of action and unprecedented efficacy and safety profile. Speaker 400:15:002nd, enabling broad access for eligible patients to increasing payer coverage and third, ensuring a positive initial Let me provide you with some further color on our three areas of focus for a successful launch. Starting with physicians. Instalant, our dedicated field force has been able to engage with 4,500 nephrologists in face to face interactions. These engagements are having the intended impact. The fraudulists are increasingly understanding Filzparis' model That provides rapid and sustained proteinuria reduction in IgAAN patients, including those at risk of rapid disease progression. Speaker 400:15:47We also see continuing increase in awareness of sales firing. Based on market research findings, The agent awareness is already at nearly 90% of those surveys and over 2 thirds of the nephrologists know about Scholzparin without prompting. More importantly, 50% of these nephrologists report seeing XOLSparri as a substantial advance over other therapies, And the intent to treat within the 1st year of approval remains high at 90%. Now that our field force can We started using branded campaign materials consistent with FDA guidance for Accelerate approved products, while also launching speaker programs, We expect to further strengthen the awareness of Fiosparin. This positive momentum is also translating into behavioral changes as demonstrated by increasing demand. Speaker 400:16:40This has resulted in 417 new patient start forms in the 2nd quarter. In the 1st 4.5 months since approval, we have received a total of 563 patient store forms. As we have highlighted since approval, we view these patient platforms as the fundamental indicator for treatment demands, And it is the key metric contributing to our confidence in a successful launch. To put this into perspective, The new 417 patient store forms were received in our 1st full quarter. When comparing this to other recent rare nephrology launches, The demand for Fiospari outperformed these benchmarks within that same period. Speaker 400:17:24Additionally, We continue to observe an increase in the number of prescribers and repeat prescriptions by the same nephrologists, indicating that they are seeing the potential treatment benefits for their addressable IgM patients and starting to change their treatment paradigm with silsparin. Let me now shift to the progress that we have been making on the payer access funds. We are very pleased with the engagement we continue to have with payers and how they perceive the value that Filspari is bringing to patients. The investment we made early on in generating the health economic evidence And developing the Filsparity value story has been important in helping payers understand the utility of Filsparity. We ended the 2nd quarter with 54% of U. Speaker 400:18:12S. Life's covered Compare policies, with about 50 formularies that have FOSPARI specific policies. And we are really pleased with the quality of these specific formularies as most of these as prior authorization requirements that allow for access aligned with the Filspari label. Ensuring the patient get access To fill out very quickly after receiving a patient's platform is a key priority for Travia Total Care and our dedicated patient support services team. We are pleased with the support that Travia Total Care is providing to patients and more importantly, how these services are being appreciated by patients. Speaker 400:18:51This includes personalized education and assistance with the ramps and reimbursement process. For reimbursement claims that undergo longer review periods, Shavere Total Care can provide eligible patients with limited free products Through the Quick Start program for up to 60 days, our progress on these 3 before mentioned fundamentals resulted in net sales priority revenues of $3,500,000 in the 2nd quarter and a total of $6,500,000 in net sales in the first 4.5 months since launch. This is right in line with our expectations. As expected, Revenue in the Q2 reflects the reduction in inventories from the initial stocking at the regional centers of our specialty pharmacies that was accrued in the Q1. I'm pleased that our specialty pharmacies have since placed reorders. Speaker 400:19:48And looking at the overall launch through the Q2, We are really pleased. We see the strongest demand for the Q2 of launch amongst recent launches in rare nephrology and have broadened our high quality payer access. In the second half of the year, we expect to see patient store forms grow, inclusive of any seasonality in the summer months that we have seen in other recent rare and frothy launches, which could result in some variability from quarter to quarter. We also expect to see continued successful progress decisions It will enable us to advance access to Filsparin. With the strong demand and broadening reimbursement, We expect meaningful revenue growth for Filestari in the 3rd and 4th quarters. Speaker 400:20:37All of this is consistent with our planning and expectation that we set forth as approval. Our progress to date has created a very strong foundation. And as a result, We have great confidence that we will ultimately achieve our goal of Filspiri becoming a new treatment standard for IgAAN patients at risk of rapid progression and potentially reaching blockbuster status in the future. Let me now turn the call over to Chris for the financial update. Chris? Speaker 500:21:09Thank you, Peter, and good afternoon, everyone. As the team has highlighted, we are very pleased with The progress that has been made over the 1st 6 months of the year and we're looking forward to a strong second half still to come. Importantly, we're well positioned from a financial perspective to support our expected growth. For the Q2 of 2023, net product sales were $57,000,000 compared to $51,000,000 for the same period in 2022. The increase is primarily attributable to net product sales from the ongoing launch of Filspari. Speaker 500:21:37Our legacy products also continued to perform well in the 2nd quarter With the bile acid portfolio contributing $27,500,000 in net product sales and our tiopronin products contributing $26,100,000 in net product sales, This growth was driven by organic patient demand. During the quarter, we also recognized $2,700,000 of license and collaboration revenue, which translates $59,700,000 in total revenue for the period compared to $54,200,000 for the same period of 2022. Research and development expenses for the Q2 of 2023 were $69,400,000 compared to $59,700,000 for the same period in 2022. The difference is largely attributable to the continued advancement of our pecdevatinase program, including the ongoing COMPOSE study as well as startup activities for the pivotal program in manufacturing. On a non GAAP adjusted basis, R and D expenses were $62,400,000 for the Q2 of 2023 compared to $54,400,000 for the same period in 2022. Speaker 500:22:38Selling, general and administrative expenses for the Q2 of 2023 were $74,000,000 compared to $53,000,000 for the same period in 2022. The difference is largely attributable to the onboarding of the FilSpari field team and supporting staff as well as launch related activities, including promotional support and our REMS program following the approval of Hillsboro in the Q1. On a non GAAP adjusted basis, SG and A expenses were $55,600,000 for the Q2 of 2023 compared to $37,500,000 for the same period in 22. Total other income net for the Q2 of 2023 was $2,000,000 compared to total other income Other expense net of $1,500,000 in the same period in 2022. The difference is largely attributable to higher interest income earned in the period. Speaker 500:23:24Net loss for the Q2 of 2023 was $85,600,000 or $1.13 per basic share compared to a net loss of $67,000,000 or $1.05 per basic share for the same period in 2022. On a non GAAP adjusted basis, Net loss for the Q2 of 2023 was $58,200,000 or $0.77 per basic share compared to a net loss of $41,300,000 or Securities of $491,300,000 As Eric highlighted earlier, we were pleased to recently enter into the agreement to sell our bile acid product portfolio to Mirim Pharmaceuticals up to $445,000,000 This transaction is clear strategic and financial benefits for Travir. From a financial perspective, This transaction will bring forward several years of value from the products and meaningfully strengthen our balance sheet with an upfront payment of $210,000,000 at close. Furthermore, we will have the potential to realize up to $235,000,000 in additional value from sales based milestones as Kolbom and Kenadol continue to be important treatment options for patients in For the second half of the year, we anticipate our operating expenses to remain at or modestly below the levels we reported for the first half of the year, With some variability quarter to quarter as we continue to advance our programs and complete the bile acid portfolio transaction, which is expected to close in the Q3. Speaker 500:24:48Importantly, with our reported cash balance at the end of the second quarter and the expected net proceeds from the Byle Asset Portfolio transaction, We expect that we can manage our balance sheet to support operations beyond 2025 and achieve the key goals from our programs with significant growth potential. With that, I'll now turn the call back over to Eric for his closing comments. Eric? Speaker 200:25:09Thank you, Chris. I'm proud of the team's accomplishments in the first half of twenty twenty three and the significant progress we have made towards delivering innovative treatments for patients with rare disease. We have had an outstanding start to the launch of PILSPARI, which is performing to our high expectations and on track to potentially reach blockbuster status at peak. We remain encouraged by the profile of sparsentan in FSGS and look forward to engaging with the FDA in the near term. Pegdibatinase data from the Phase III COMPOSE study represents further evidence of its potential to become the only disease modifying treatment in a potential multibillion dollar market in the future. Speaker 200:25:50And by entering into the agreement to divest our bile acid portfolio, Our teams will be able to further concentrate their efforts on our exciting pipeline opportunities, aligning with our goal of delivering significant value in the quarters and years ahead. In the second half of the year, we look forward to providing important updates on our pipeline programs. These milestones hold the potential to make meaningful Positive impacts on the lives of those impacted by rare disease and therefore we will continue to execute with urgency. Let me now turn the call over to Naomi for Q and A. Speaker 100:26:27Naomi? Thank you, Eric. We can now open the line up for Q and A. Operator? Operator00:26:33Thank We will now take the first question from the line of Anupam Rama from JPMorgan. Anupam Rama, your line is open. Speaker 500:27:07Hi. Thank you for taking the question. This is actually Malcolm Kuno on for Anupam. Just one question. What does your market research suggest about Speaker 200:27:25Thanks for the great question. And I will turn that one over to Peter. Speaker 400:27:35Thanks, Eric. Yes, what I would say is Duve, I would like you to think about this kind of a it's a rolling launch. We started promoting FilSpire with PI Materials only consistent to the FDA guidance that are approved through accelerated approval. Now that we are past day 120, we have the ability to promote. And as in every launch, there is an adoption curve with innovators and early adopters, and this is what we plan for in our focused targeting efforts. Speaker 400:28:05To your question, with more data, we'll further reinforce the first party profile and allow some new communication opportunities. And I think this will help us To further broaden the prescriber base. Speaker 500:28:17Great. Thank you. Speaker 200:28:20Thank you, Malcolm. Operator00:28:22We will take our next question from the line of Tyler Van Buren from TD Cowen. Tyler Van Buren, your line is open. Speaker 600:28:32Thank you. Good afternoon. Thanks for taking the question. I understand that it could take up to 20 to 60 days for patients to receive coverage. But of the 5 Can you say approximately how many of these are covered and then also potentially how many of them Speaker 200:28:56Thanks for the question, Tyler. And Peter, why don't you take that one? Speaker 400:29:01Yes, happy to take that question, Erik. I would say, as you would expect in the beginning of a launch, especially this early, The metrics in the fulfillment process are highly variable. If I look at where we are, I would say our metrics are right in line with benchmark in rare disease launches. And to your question on the reported 563 patients start forms, I can say that most of these patients have received FOSPARIN. And we see a positive trend of conversion to paid products that we believe will continue with increasing payer coverage decisions to include filsparium in formulas. Operator00:29:43We will take the next question from the line of Greg Harrison with Bank of America. Greg Harrison, your line is now open. Speaker 700:29:51Hey, good afternoon and congrats on all the progress and thanks for taking the question. In the prepared remarks, it was noted that, you now expect the FOSPARIN label to be expanded Along with full approval, what do you think would change in the label? And How would that impact the addressable patient population that could get the drug? Speaker 200:30:22Great. Thanks for the question. So what I would say is that we would expect the label to The full population that we studied in our Phase 3 PROTECT trial, which did enroll patients 1 gram per day and above, which is far broader than what we have in our indication statement now, those patients that are at risk of Rapid progression, typically those patients above 1.5 gram and this was based on FDA's assessment of approval through accelerated approval. So we do believe that there will be an expansion to reflect again the broad efficacy that we have Seeing at least through the interim, in our Phase 3 program. And I'll have Peter talk about how that might impact the addressable population. Speaker 400:31:15Yes. Thanks, Erik. I think there's 2 elements here. I think it helps us to further broaden How physicians think about their addressable patient, I think that's 1. But I also think that there will be a broadening of the prescriber base. Speaker 400:31:30And I think with new data, it provides further confidence that a situation that maybe on the sense right now. And that's something that we are I have been planning for in our targeting efforts. I was calling out the 4,000 nephrologists that we have the 4,500 nephrologists that we have been able to reach. We are planning to expand that further to ultimately 6,000 nephrologists and the broadening of the prescriber base with the broadening of Addressable patient, I think, gives me good confidence for the second half of the year. And ultimately, after we have announced the data and we have the Updated label that we will continue to see growth of Joe Spire in years to come. Speaker 700:32:13Great. That's helpful. If I could sneak one more in, how would you characterize the flow of new patient start forms throughout Q2, was it steady or maybe accelerating towards the end of the quarter? Speaker 200:32:30Yes. Great question. Peter, would you like to take that? Speaker 400:32:33Yes. Greg, I would say it's steadily increasing. Speaker 200:32:38Yes, I think that's right. What I would reflect is that it's increasing and we would As we've seen with other launches that there is variability in the 1st year. Importantly though, Greg, as we talk about what we would In the second half of this year, would be an overall growth in both patient start forms as well as revenues, Given the strong demand that we've seen as well as the great expansion of payer access, that will certainly reflect and growth in both of those in the back half of the year. But quarter to quarter or month to month, we would expect to be see some variability. But we are certainly in a great position to achieve our ambition of making Vilspari the foundational therapy and ultimately Thank you. Operator00:33:36We will take the next question from the line of Joseph Schwartz with Leerink Partners. Joseph Schwartz, your line is now open. Speaker 800:33:45Great. Thanks so much and congrats on the quarter. I was wondering if you could walk us through some of the Powering assumptions that have gone into the Protect design, I think I saw somewhere that Protect was powered to detect a 30% And also a 2.9 millimeters per min per year difference in total eGFR slope. Speaker 400:34:13And then I think you Speaker 800:34:16repowered the study, but then A paper came out by Incur et al. That, predicted that a 30% difference in proteinuria would produce a 1.67 Unit difference in total eGFR slope. And so I'm wondering, since sparsentan actually produced a 41% relative reduction, which I think Incur at all would predict to drive a 2.77 unit Difference in total eGFR slope. How to interpret these relationships Given that companies usually power studies for smaller changes than they expect to see. And so my question I guess is, what given the Trial has been repowered once and some of these relationships have evolved over time. Speaker 800:35:18How was the trial initially powered? How do you see it being powered now? And we've heard Maybe it's just with respect to FSGS that very small changes could be clinically meaningful. Would changes Of a smaller magnitude, it will be possible to drive a stat sig result in Protect? Speaker 200:35:41Yes. Joe, thank you for the question. I think, Jula is well poised to be able to provide some clarity on that question. Speaker 300:35:50Yes. Thanks, Joe. Just to clarify, you're correct. We have 90% greater than 90% power to detect A difference in slope of 2.9 ml per minute per year with 380 patients. And that's how we originally powered the trial that was based on historical data and you're correct Achieving at least a 30% difference in proteinuria, which we did achieve. Speaker 300:36:12So we now have additional data as you pointed out the incremental analysis for example our Interim data and we achieved a 41% relative reduction in proteinuria, which was, as you said, greater than we predicted. So we did conditional power calculations based on the available interim eGFR data as well as trial level analysis, which gave us a high level of confidence That will achieve a clinically meaningful and statistically significant effect at 2 years and this data did support our accelerated approval. I did want to clarify one thing is that we didn't repower, but we did over recruit. So we do continue to have a high level of confidence that we will achieve Both clinically meaningful and statistically significant effects. And I will just also add that, yes, I don't think we need to hit as high based on the additional data of What we originally powered on is based on the treatment effect and variability, but we remain highly confident that we will hit statistical significance at 2 years. Speaker 800:37:11Thank you very much. Operator00:37:15We will take the next question from the line of Maury Raycroft of Jefferies. Please. Maury Raycroft, your line is open. Speaker 900:37:23Hi, congrats on the progress and thanks for taking my question. I was wondering what are your latest thoughts on FOSPARI revenue for the full year 2023 as it relates to the consensus number for the year, Which you've commented on in the past. And also wondering separately what feedback you're getting related to REMS and REMS implementation and how is this impacting access or PSF conversions? Speaker 200:37:49Corey, thanks for the questions. Why don't I start with The Filsparity revenue for the full year, I think we've been very pleased with what we saw in the first half. And I think with the demand that we are seeing generated launched to date that we fully expect to see an acceleration of revenue in the second half of this year. With consensus, I think largely in line with how other 1st year rail renal sales have gone, We think that we're in good position there. So I think that we believe that we're going to see a strong second half of the year, including some of the potential seasonality in the summer months that we've seen with other rare renal launches to date. Speaker 200:38:33So I think we're well positioned for a strong launch. And again, this 1st year is really about setting the foundation for us to become a blockbuster in Foundational therapy in the treatment paradigm. I'll turn it over to Peter to give some feedback on what he's hearing in terms of REMS Certification and what this means for conversions? Speaker 400:38:55Yes. Happy to do so, Eric. And Maurice, thanks for the question. I would say let me start by referring to the demand that we were able to generate with FOLSARY in the first half. Those 5 63 patient platforms are generated considering the REMS program. Speaker 400:39:15And what we are seeing is that when the physician appreciates the strong And safety profile of Closparin in combination with the urgency to treat, the doctor will have the conversation with his or her patient that is at risk of rapid progression. And so I think it really comes back to focusing on the long fundamentals. Erik was talking about building the foundation in the 1st year, the 1st 6 to 9 months that we have outlined before. So this comes back to really like educating us the nephrology community on Fiosparis' efficacy and safety profile in novel mode of action as well as ensuring a positive first experience. And as we mentioned in this call, we canceled this and we are making solid progress in the year. Speaker 900:39:57Got it. Thanks for taking my questions. Speaker 200:40:01Thanks, Mark. Operator00:40:03We will take our next question from the line of Tim Lugo with William Blair. Tim Lugo, your line is now open. Speaker 1000:40:11Thanks for the question and congrats on the good quarter. With the bile acid portfolio being carved out, how should we expect Gross margins to trend over the next few quarters during the launch and then maybe what will gross margins be trending at maturity? Speaker 200:40:30Chris, why don't you take that question? Thanks for it, Tim. Speaker 400:40:35Yes, happy to do that. Speaker 500:40:36Thanks for the question, Tim. In terms of specifics for gross margins, it will be easier for us to be able to comment on that once we've closed the transaction and we have some of the And then carve out statements that will be available. But what I can point you to is that we do expect to see a reduction In expense related to the bile acid portfolio, that will come in both SG and A and R and D. And when you think about SG and A, You've got a small sales force that is supporting coal bomb and you've got promotional efforts that go into that. So that would transition. Speaker 500:41:07And then from an R and D perspective, we do have Small Phase 3 study that's ongoing to support Kenadol as well as some, biostats and regulatory work. And We do expect that those expenses will transition as we move forward and we'll be able to go into a bit more detail as to the specifics on margins there as we go forward. In terms of margins for the launch, we've commented historically that we expect thus far to get to a stable state of mid to high And really there, at least on a gross and net perspective, and everything we see thus far is in line with obtaining that. Speaker 1000:41:48Okay. Fair enough. And yes, there were some comments about seasonality in the summer, but then also some destocking And Q2 and reorders, which I assume would impact Q3. Can you kind of Put those together, it sounds like you mentioned consensus is assuming in line with the rare arena launch, other rare arena launches. Are you pretty comfortable with what Q3 consensus is? Speaker 200:42:19So Tim, what I can characterize is in the second half Of the year, we do expect to see a ramp in our revenues. And I think in Q3, we do expect to see A pull through of the demand that we were able to generate in patient start forms in Q2. And as we've seen a meaningful improvement in payer access, we think a lot of that will convert to paid scripts. But in the first part of a launch, it is variable. And there is there still is some time even with great access to be able to really tighten that correlation between demand and revenue. Speaker 200:43:02So we think that that's going to really start to play through in the Q3. And then really by the end of this year, we should start to see the Patient Start forms and revenue really tie closely together. The other thing that I will mention is that with many of the other launches within this space, in their 1st year of launch, Close to 50% of the revenues are generated in the last quarter of the year. We Fully expect that that is something that we could see here. But taking a step back, I think we're very confident in our ability to meet those And we're off to a strong start, but we still have to continue to execute, lay that foundation that Peter talked about and continue to deliver The strong demand that was generated in the first half of the year. Speaker 400:43:53Understood. Thank you so much. Speaker 200:43:56Thank you. Operator00:43:59Our next question comes from the line of Mohit Bansal with Wells Fargo. Mohit Bansal, your line is open. Speaker 800:44:07Hey, this is Adam on for Mohit. What are the current areas of focus to ensure the Filspirone launches a success? And with start forms or sales be the better metric to watch over the next two quarters? Speaker 200:44:20Yes, it's a great question, Adam. Why don't I take that one? I would say earlier in launch patient start forms are the best lead indicator. It truly is reflective of the underlying demand by patients and by physicians. And I think as we've seen, that's a very strong focus. Speaker 200:44:39I think as we now have An increase in access and what Peter laid out in the last couple of calls is it takes About 3 quarters to lay that foundation for a launch like this. And so we're well positioned to do that. Once we get through that, we do Expect to see meaningful uplift in revenue and that really should be then the measure of success moving forward. But I think as we've demonstrated in Q2 patient start forms reflect a high level of demand out there. We expect that will continue through the rest of the year. Speaker 200:45:12And again, we'll be positioned to have a very successful launch in the years to come. Speaker 500:45:18Great. Thank you. Speaker 200:45:20Thank you. Operator00:45:22We will take our next question from the line of Vamil Divan with Guggenheim Securities. Vamil Divan, your line is now open. Speaker 1100:45:30Great. Thanks for taking the questions and all the color on the call. So just maybe you can provide a little more insight on just sort of exactly Patients are getting prescribed FOSPHARI. I'm trying to get a sense of sort of are they ones in the academic setting versus On the community setting, are they being prescribed after they get an SGLT-two, before SGLT-two? Also maybe just kind of how Tarpeo Just fitting into this, is this generally being given on top of Tarpeo? Speaker 1100:45:57So any other sort of added insights on the sort of patient profile that's being prescribed? The product would be helpful. Thank you. Speaker 200:46:05Great. Thank you for the questions. Peter, why don't you take those? Speaker 400:46:10Yes. Thanks for that question, Amil. Well, I think patient characteristic, I think several items I would call out here. I think first from a payer coverage perspective, What we said from the onset is that 2 thirds of those patients are commercial and that is very much in line with our expectations. It's a patient population that is predominantly male. Speaker 400:46:32That's also in line with our expectations. I think the average age what we are seeing is in the mid-40s. But the particular question that you were asking like where does it sit in the treatment paradigm. And what we start to see is that physicians understand that this is early on as it is replacing ACE and ARPS. Often, these are rapidly progressing patients and often those patients are right now on RAS inhibition together with SGLT-two. Speaker 400:47:00So what we are seeing is that for those patients that are being prescribed right now, It's replacing ACE inhibitors or ARBs, but often in combination with SGLT-two. To your other question with regards to TARPEO, Clearoids in general are like at a later resort, but it's still on top of Asian ARPS or now We feel sorry. That's how we see it being used as well. Okay. Thank you. Speaker 1000:47:33Thank you. Operator00:47:36We will take our next question from the line of Laura Chico with Wedbush Securities. Laura Chico, your line is now open. Speaker 100:47:44Hey, good afternoon. Thanks very much for taking the questions. I just had 2 quick ones. So first, Eric, just following up on your earlier comments with potential label expansion. And I think this might have been asked a little bit, but are you not seeing any patients kind of below that threshold The proteinuria indicated on the label or is there kind of some indication that they are waiting for label expansion to begin moving into that kind of patient population set. Speaker 100:48:13And then just real quickly FSGS, what are the range of outcomes that Speaker 300:48:16we should expect from the Speaker 200:48:21Great. Why don't I take the first one and then Jula can take the FSGS question. So we are seeing some patients that are below 1.5 grams of proteinuria because there are other factors that physicians do determine the level of risk of progression. So we are seeing that. But as you can imagine, Most of the patients early in launch are the most severe that really have very few options, if any, in the treatment of our material. Speaker 200:48:54So We do expect that a label expansion will help in increasing the number of patients that would be available for us to treat, but also just the level of evidence that would be within that Full approval label. So as Peter mentioned, it's sort of a rolling launch with additional evidence and support moving forward. So I think we've been pleased with the clear understanding that physicians have about helping treat patients with VOSFARI that are at risk. And Julep, why don't you address the question about potential outcomes for FSGS? Speaker 300:49:29Yes. So as we said on the call, we have a meeting with the And with the DUPLEX results in hand, which we have been analyzing and as I mentioned, we released the interim data, which shows durable effects On proteinuria, positive trends on eGFR, positive trends on kidney outcomes and then a great safety profile, we're really seeking to understand the agency's expectations for submission and really overall willingness to accept a submission based on the totality of data that we've already released and the additional data that we have analyzed. So And we do expect to be in a position to provide an update to you all later in the fall. Speaker 1000:50:07Thanks very much. Thank you. Operator00:50:12Our next question comes from the line of Alex Thompson with Stifel. Alex Thompson, your line is now open. Speaker 500:50:19Great. Thanks. Maybe for Peter, could you provide any color on patients And liver monitoring, the setting in which the blood test is ongoing and patients maybe getting a second course of therapy so far? And then maybe for Chris, could Can you talk about what assumptions are embedded in your runway guidance around past 2025? Thanks. Speaker 200:50:43All right. Peter, would you like to take the first one? Speaker 400:50:47Yes, absolutely. Alex, thanks for your question. If I understand you correctly, it's like what is the repeat prescription of YOSPARI with like the monitoring of Liver testing. What we're seeing so far the patients that have started JOSPARI that there is a high level of repeat Prescription and Compliance. So we don't see at this point that there's any implication or complication with the monthly delivering Testing, but it's really on new ones, but so far, high compliance. Speaker 200:51:23And Chris for Runway. Speaker 500:51:25Yes, happy to take that. Thanks, Alex. So Included in the cash runway guidance are a number of things. The first is, of course, the IgA nephropathy launch, 2nd being investment in the pegdevatinase pivotal program and that getting off the ground later this year. Also baked into that is maintenance of discipline spend for FSGS while we have those discussions with FDA and evaluate next steps. Speaker 500:51:51We also bring into that continued competitive dynamics for Thiola and potential pressure on that business. And then any milestones that we would either receive and or pay as a result of the various different programs that are going forward and sales trajectory. So hopefully that gives you a good sense for all of what's in there. Great. Super helpful. Speaker 500:52:13Thank you. Speaker 200:52:14Thanks, Alex. Operator00:52:16Our next question comes from the line of Ed Arce with H. C. Wainwright. Ed Arce, your line is now open. Speaker 1200:52:24Great. Thanks for taking my questions and congrats on the progress in the quarter. A couple from me, really just to follow-up on And prior questions, 1st, with regard to meeting with the FDA later this year on FSGS, I wanted to get a little bit more granularity around some of the scenarios or perhaps proposals that you're coming to the meeting with, In particular, whether a new trial would include more patients or higher power or perhaps a longer lead in period or some other aspects that would better correlate proteinuria with The long term outcome of the GFR. And then secondly, around the label Expansion in IGAN. Just wondering if you can put some type of a quantitative Description around the incremental size of patients if you go down from the 1.5 grams now to the 1 gram after Thanks so much. Speaker 200:53:37Ed, thank you for the questions. Maybe, I can take a stab at the FDA I think fundamentally, we're looking for FDA to align on our view that the totality of data that we've generated to date sparsentan in FSGS would be sufficient for us to submit an sNDA. I don't really foresee that we would undertake a large trial at this point. I think that the data that we have is sufficient. Julia, would you like to add any other color to that? Speaker 300:54:09I would echo what Eric had to say. And really, this is our first meeting with them, them being able to see the data, the totality of results that we've generated And a consistent and durable effect on proteinuria and positive trends on many other meaningful endpoints. So it's really just to have a first conversation to show them the data and have a discussion about next steps. Speaker 200:54:38And Peter, would you like to take the question about the expanded population? Speaker 400:54:47Sorry, can you repeat the question? I missed that. Speaker 200:54:49Yes. The question is quantifying How many additional patients might there be with the expanded label for IGATA at full approval? Speaker 400:55:00Yes. I think it is important to realize that even though the label reads right now for patients at high risk of Disease progression generally with the proteinuria higher than 1.5. That doesn't exclude patients below 1.5 because there may be other factors Why the physician determines that a patient is on a path of rapid progression. So we see also utilization below 1.5. But I think to the point that I made earlier on the call, with the broadening of the label, we also will see broadening On the prescriber base, because that provides further confidence in the profile and an opportunity for communication. Speaker 400:55:43And as Eric mentioned earlier, initially in the launch, often you are being prescribed in patients that have not had success with any other treatment options. And as physicians start to see what Gylfire can do and means for their own patients, that stimulates Repeat prescription as well. And that's what we start to hear and that really pleases me. Speaker 200:56:06Yes. I think maybe the only other thing I would add, Ed, I think there's going to be 2 factors for us assuming that the addressable population now of 30,000 to 50,000 expands Given that there are up to 150,000 patients in the U. S. With IgA nephropathy, I think fundamentally it's going to be the addressable increase of those patients That are below 1.5. And I think a very compelling data set that we now have, that Julep shared from the RADAR analysis reflects that even patients that may have been considered low risk, those patients that may have 0.5 grams, There is a proportion of them that are at risk of progression. Speaker 200:56:48So I think there is going to be increased awareness of who's at risk as well as earlier diagnosis as we have more education in IgAN in the years to come. So there's actually Several different factors that are likely to expand the addressable population, not just in the label expansion. So We can certainly talk about that in future quarters, but we do believe that there are several meaningful factors that should expand the population moving forward. Speaker 1200:57:21Great. That's helpful. Thank you, Eric. Speaker 200:57:23Thank you. Operator00:57:25This concludes today's question and answer session. I will now turn the call back to Naomi Eichenbaum for any additional or closing remarks. 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There are 13 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good day, and welcome to the Trevir Therapeutics Second Quarter 2023 Financial Results and Corporate Update Conference Call. Today's conference call is being recorded. At this time, I would like to turn the conference call over to the Vice President of Investor Relations, Naomi Eichenbaum. Please go ahead, Naomi. Speaker 100:00:19Thank you. Good afternoon, and welcome to Trevir Therapeutics' Q2 2023 financial results and Corporate Update Call. Thank you all for joining us. Today's call will be led by our Chief Executive Officer, Doctor. Eric Dube. Speaker 100:00:34Eric will be joined in the prepared remarks by Doctor. Jule Enrig, our Chief Medical Officer Peter Herma, our Chief Commercial Officer and Chris Klein, our Chief Financial Officer. Doctor. Bill Roeth, Senior Vice President of Research and Development will join us for the Q and A session. Before we begin, I would like to remind everyone that statements made during this call regarding matters that are not historical facts are forward looking statements within the Safe Harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Speaker 100:01:04Forward looking statements are not guarantees of performance. They involve known and unknown risks, uncertainties and assumptions that may cause actual results, performance and achievements to differ materially from those expressed or implied by the statement, Please see the forward looking statements disclaimer on the company's press release issued earlier today as well as the Risk Factors section in our Form 10 Q and 10 ks filed with the SEC. In addition, any forward looking statements represent our views only as of the date such statements are made August 3, 2023, and Travir specifically disclaims any obligation to update such statements to reflect future information, events or circumstances. With that, let me now turn the call over to Eric. Speaker 200:01:48Eric? Thank you, Naomi, and good afternoon, everyone. In the first half of twenty twenty three, we made significant progress on our corporate strategy of delivering new treatment standards from our pipeline of innovative medicines people living with rare disease. Our progress has been led by the ongoing successful launch of Vilspari or sparsentan. ZILFARI is the 1st and only non immunosuppressive therapy approved for the reduction of proteinuria in adults with IgA nephropathy or IgAN at risk of rapid disease progression. Speaker 200:02:20We believe that ZILspari holds the potential to help 30,000 to 50000 addressable IgA patients And our field teams continue to hear from nephrologists that their experience with VILSPARI is reflective of an efficacy and safety profile demonstrated and the interim readout from the PROTECT study. In fact, last week, I spent a day in the field with a Vilspari sales representative visiting community nephrologists. One physician shared a compelling patient story about a young woman with IgAN at risk of rapid disease progression and struggling with proteinuria levels above 2 grams per day Despite treatment with several therapies, after a few short weeks on tolsparigproteinuria level had significantly dropped below 1 gram per day. The physician noted that these types of results provide them with confidence to prescribe TYLSPARI to a greater number of their addressable patients with IGAN. We are encouraged to hear this positive feedback from the field and the nephrologists are both re prescribing and proactively identifying more eligible These insights on physician feedback and demand provide us with confidence and the potential of Vilspari to ultimately become a new treatment standard for IgAN. Speaker 200:03:33In the Q2 of 2023, We executed on our Filspari launch strategy and are observing strong performance on the 2 most important indicators of success. Demand reflected in the growth of patient start forms or PSS and patient access driven by increasing and broader payer coverage. In fact, we delivered the highest number of PSFs in the 1st quarter launch since launch amongst other rare renal launch benchmarks. Later this year, we expect to announce The complete results from the PROTECT study that we believe will have the potential to support traditional approval and the potential for a broader label of Filspari and IGAN. The study is ahead of our initial guidance and we now expect a top line readout from PROTECT late in Q3 or early in Q4. Speaker 200:04:26Looking beyond the U. S, we continue to work with our collaborator CSL v4. Regulatory reviews in Europe are underway for sparsentan and IGAN, and we anticipate an opinion from the CHMP around the end of this year. Our top priority is ensuring a successful launch of PILspari and we believe that we are off to a strong start. In parallel, we have also continued to make Progress on our other pipeline programs. Speaker 200:04:49We continue to believe that sparsentan may represent an important treatment option for patients with FSGS. In May, we reported top line results from the Phase 3 DUPLEX study of sparsentan and FSGS, in which sparsentan demonstrated significant and durable effects While the study did not achieve statistical significance on the eGFR endpoints, we are encouraged by the totality of data. We are scheduled to meet with the FDA to explore the potential for a future regulatory submission for sparsentan in FSGS and expect to provide an update on that discussion in the fall. Shifting to pegdevatinase. With the recent positive update from Cohort 6, We are even more confident that pegdovatinase represents a significant opportunity for us to help patients with HCU and for our company to accelerate our growth in the coming years. Speaker 200:05:47Based on our growing body of market research, we understand there to be a population of Approximately 3,500 addressable HCU patients in the U. S, a similar number in Europe and a meaningful number of patients in additional geographies. Importantly, over time, we see this addressable patient population potentially increase by 50% or more with the introduction of an innovative new therapy and advancements in diagnostics. This is why we are excited to continue focusing our efforts on this program and we are working towards initiating the pivotal study by year end. Outside of our innovative pipeline, we recently announced that we have entered into an agreement for the Sale of our bile acid product portfolio for up to $445,000,000 consisting of $210,000,000 upfront and up to an additional $235,000,000 in potential future sales based milestone payments. Speaker 200:06:43This divestment, which is expected to close during the Q3 will meaningfully strengthen our balance sheet and most importantly has clear strategic benefits for our organization. Strategically, it will enable us to focus even more clearly on the successful launch of PILspari and IGAN, pursuing a potential regulatory path for sparsentan and FSGS, the development of pegdapatinase for the treatment of HCU. We believe successfully developing Delivering on these priorities will position our medicines to become potential treatment standards, each in markets with $1,000,000,000 potential. Overall, for the Q2, I am incredibly proud of our team's performance. We continue to progress each of our Strategic priorities and have made important advancements with our pipeline of innovative products. Speaker 200:07:33We have successfully delivered a strong first full quarter of the launch laying the groundwork for our goal of enabling Filspari to ultimately become the foundational therapy in IGAN. Let me now turn the call over to Jula for a clinical update. Jula? Speaker 300:07:49Thank you, Eric, and good afternoon, everyone. I'd like to start by reflecting on the exciting developments for VASPARI in the first half of twenty twenty three and touch upon the important updates to come later this year. While there have been meaningful developments in nephrology over the last decade, IgAN remains one of the greatest unmet needs in rare kidney disease. IgAN patients are often uncontrolled and on average progress to kidney failure within approximately 11 years. Therefore, IgAN was a major focus at the recent European Renal Association or ERA Medical Congress, where the Trevir team showcased significant advancements in the field of rare kidney disease with 9 posters and presentations. Speaker 300:08:34The analyses from the U. K. National Registry of Rare Renal Diseases or RADAR demonstrated that IDAN patients will face kidney failure within their lifetime, typically occurring in a patient's late 40s. Importantly, the RADAR study confirmed the relationship between reductions in proteinuria at 9 months, which is aligned to our 36 week PROTECT study interim analysis proteinuria time point and subsequent preservation of kidney function. The landmark analysis from RADAR showed that a 50% reduction in proteinuria at 9 months reduced the rate of eGFR decline and delayed time to kidney failure or death by 8.5 years. Speaker 300:09:17These results highlight that patients with IgAN need both early and effective treatment options capable of significant Chronic reduction of proteinuria to preserve kidney function. Currently, there is only one approved non immunosuppressive therapy that has demonstrated such a rapid and sustained proteinuria reduction and early positive trends on kidney failure outcomes and that is Filspari. At the interim analysis of the PROTECT study, which supported DILSPARI's accelerated approval, we observed a 50% reduction of proteinuria from baseline compared to 15% with maximally titrated ervastatin. Additional data showed that greater proportions of patients on ervastatin as compared to FilSpari reached a 40% decline in eGFR from baseline kidney failure or death. Furthermore, new data from interim assessment of the PROTECT study presented at ERA show that a significantly greater proportion of patients on Filspari achieved complete and partial remission of proteinuria, which continued to accrue over the steady period, demonstrating the rapid and durable effectiveness of Filspari. Speaker 300:10:28We head into the upcoming 2 year top line readout from PRO2TECT with confidence. Based on the magnitude of proteinuria reduction observed with sparsentan As compared to irbesartan and encouraging trends on kidney outcomes at the interim assessment in PROTECT, We believe the trial is well powered to show a clinically meaningful and statistically significant treatment difference on eGFR at 2 years. This is well supported by the robust clinical literature from precedent studies demonstrating the relationship between proteinuria reduction and long term eGFR benefit in IGAN. Furthermore, as part of our NDA review, we provided the FDA with conditional power calculations based on trial level analyses and the available interim eGFR data. These eGFR trend analyses supported the accelerated approval of HILSPARI for We remain very pleased with the ongoing conduct of the PROTECT study. Speaker 300:11:30As Eric highlighted, we are now scheduled for top line readout in the late Q3 or early Q4 of this year. These data are expected to support the submission for traditional approval, which we anticipate should include a label expansion to reflect the broader population and long term benefits of Filspari, positioning it to become the foundational therapy in IgAN. Moving to FSGS, since we reported the results from the DUPLEX study, our team has been actively engaging with rare kidney disease experts, practicing nephrologists and Patient Advocacy Organizations. The overarching theme of these discussions is the high unmet need, the difficulty in studying a heterogeneous disease such as FSGS and strong support for the scientific rationale of sparsentan in FSGS. This broad encouragement combined with the positive trends seen in the ongoing analysis of the DUPLEX data support our justification to seek a path forward with regulators. Speaker 300:12:27A meeting with the FDA is scheduled and we expect to be in a position to provide an update from the meeting in the fall. We also are planning on presenting a more comprehensive analysis of the DUPLEX study data at a scientific meeting later this year. Moving beyond sparsentan, I'll briefly touch upon the advancement of pegtobatinase for the treatment of classical homocystinuria or HCU. In late May, we provided positive top line results from Cohort 6 of the Phase onetwo COMPOSE study. Specifically, treatment with pegtubatinase resulted in a consistent benefit across the patient population with a mean reduction in total homo-fifteen of 67.1 percent and achieved total homo-fifteen levels that according to physicians could support diet liberalization. Speaker 300:13:18This is very important for patients that are typically on a highly restrictive low protein diet. There have been no significant safety concerns reported to date with pegtobatinase. Mild injection site Related reactions were observed and managed with conservative treatment. With this emerging clinical profile, We believe that pegtobatamase can effectively replace the deficient CVS enzyme activity, addressing the high unmet need in HCU and can ultimately become the 1st disease modifying therapy for patients. Engagements with regulators are progressing well. Speaker 300:13:56We currently have alignment on the use of total homocysteine as the primary endpoint for the Phase 3 study and the focus of our ongoing regulatory engagements is to align on finalizing details of the Phase 3 program now with the Cohort 6 data in hand. We look forward to providing an update on the details of the Phase 3 study later this fall with the expectation of initiating a pivotal study by year end. With that, I'll turn over to Peter for the commercial update. Peter? Speaker 400:14:24Thank you, Juan, and good afternoon, everyone. Our ambition is to make XOLSARY the new treatment standard for iGAM patients at risk of Rapid Disease Progression. And I'm really pleased how we have started in the first four and a half months since launch to realize this ambition. We have made significant progress on our 3 strategic fundamentals that I outlined on the approval call in February. 1st, changing the treatment paradigm by educating physicians about Charles Power's novel mode of action and unprecedented efficacy and safety profile. Speaker 400:15:002nd, enabling broad access for eligible patients to increasing payer coverage and third, ensuring a positive initial Let me provide you with some further color on our three areas of focus for a successful launch. Starting with physicians. Instalant, our dedicated field force has been able to engage with 4,500 nephrologists in face to face interactions. These engagements are having the intended impact. The fraudulists are increasingly understanding Filzparis' model That provides rapid and sustained proteinuria reduction in IgAAN patients, including those at risk of rapid disease progression. Speaker 400:15:47We also see continuing increase in awareness of sales firing. Based on market research findings, The agent awareness is already at nearly 90% of those surveys and over 2 thirds of the nephrologists know about Scholzparin without prompting. More importantly, 50% of these nephrologists report seeing XOLSparri as a substantial advance over other therapies, And the intent to treat within the 1st year of approval remains high at 90%. Now that our field force can We started using branded campaign materials consistent with FDA guidance for Accelerate approved products, while also launching speaker programs, We expect to further strengthen the awareness of Fiosparin. This positive momentum is also translating into behavioral changes as demonstrated by increasing demand. Speaker 400:16:40This has resulted in 417 new patient start forms in the 2nd quarter. In the 1st 4.5 months since approval, we have received a total of 563 patient store forms. As we have highlighted since approval, we view these patient platforms as the fundamental indicator for treatment demands, And it is the key metric contributing to our confidence in a successful launch. To put this into perspective, The new 417 patient store forms were received in our 1st full quarter. When comparing this to other recent rare nephrology launches, The demand for Fiospari outperformed these benchmarks within that same period. Speaker 400:17:24Additionally, We continue to observe an increase in the number of prescribers and repeat prescriptions by the same nephrologists, indicating that they are seeing the potential treatment benefits for their addressable IgM patients and starting to change their treatment paradigm with silsparin. Let me now shift to the progress that we have been making on the payer access funds. We are very pleased with the engagement we continue to have with payers and how they perceive the value that Filspari is bringing to patients. The investment we made early on in generating the health economic evidence And developing the Filsparity value story has been important in helping payers understand the utility of Filsparity. We ended the 2nd quarter with 54% of U. Speaker 400:18:12S. Life's covered Compare policies, with about 50 formularies that have FOSPARI specific policies. And we are really pleased with the quality of these specific formularies as most of these as prior authorization requirements that allow for access aligned with the Filspari label. Ensuring the patient get access To fill out very quickly after receiving a patient's platform is a key priority for Travia Total Care and our dedicated patient support services team. We are pleased with the support that Travia Total Care is providing to patients and more importantly, how these services are being appreciated by patients. Speaker 400:18:51This includes personalized education and assistance with the ramps and reimbursement process. For reimbursement claims that undergo longer review periods, Shavere Total Care can provide eligible patients with limited free products Through the Quick Start program for up to 60 days, our progress on these 3 before mentioned fundamentals resulted in net sales priority revenues of $3,500,000 in the 2nd quarter and a total of $6,500,000 in net sales in the first 4.5 months since launch. This is right in line with our expectations. As expected, Revenue in the Q2 reflects the reduction in inventories from the initial stocking at the regional centers of our specialty pharmacies that was accrued in the Q1. I'm pleased that our specialty pharmacies have since placed reorders. Speaker 400:19:48And looking at the overall launch through the Q2, We are really pleased. We see the strongest demand for the Q2 of launch amongst recent launches in rare nephrology and have broadened our high quality payer access. In the second half of the year, we expect to see patient store forms grow, inclusive of any seasonality in the summer months that we have seen in other recent rare and frothy launches, which could result in some variability from quarter to quarter. We also expect to see continued successful progress decisions It will enable us to advance access to Filsparin. With the strong demand and broadening reimbursement, We expect meaningful revenue growth for Filestari in the 3rd and 4th quarters. Speaker 400:20:37All of this is consistent with our planning and expectation that we set forth as approval. Our progress to date has created a very strong foundation. And as a result, We have great confidence that we will ultimately achieve our goal of Filspiri becoming a new treatment standard for IgAAN patients at risk of rapid progression and potentially reaching blockbuster status in the future. Let me now turn the call over to Chris for the financial update. Chris? Speaker 500:21:09Thank you, Peter, and good afternoon, everyone. As the team has highlighted, we are very pleased with The progress that has been made over the 1st 6 months of the year and we're looking forward to a strong second half still to come. Importantly, we're well positioned from a financial perspective to support our expected growth. For the Q2 of 2023, net product sales were $57,000,000 compared to $51,000,000 for the same period in 2022. The increase is primarily attributable to net product sales from the ongoing launch of Filspari. Speaker 500:21:37Our legacy products also continued to perform well in the 2nd quarter With the bile acid portfolio contributing $27,500,000 in net product sales and our tiopronin products contributing $26,100,000 in net product sales, This growth was driven by organic patient demand. During the quarter, we also recognized $2,700,000 of license and collaboration revenue, which translates $59,700,000 in total revenue for the period compared to $54,200,000 for the same period of 2022. Research and development expenses for the Q2 of 2023 were $69,400,000 compared to $59,700,000 for the same period in 2022. The difference is largely attributable to the continued advancement of our pecdevatinase program, including the ongoing COMPOSE study as well as startup activities for the pivotal program in manufacturing. On a non GAAP adjusted basis, R and D expenses were $62,400,000 for the Q2 of 2023 compared to $54,400,000 for the same period in 2022. Speaker 500:22:38Selling, general and administrative expenses for the Q2 of 2023 were $74,000,000 compared to $53,000,000 for the same period in 2022. The difference is largely attributable to the onboarding of the FilSpari field team and supporting staff as well as launch related activities, including promotional support and our REMS program following the approval of Hillsboro in the Q1. On a non GAAP adjusted basis, SG and A expenses were $55,600,000 for the Q2 of 2023 compared to $37,500,000 for the same period in 22. Total other income net for the Q2 of 2023 was $2,000,000 compared to total other income Other expense net of $1,500,000 in the same period in 2022. The difference is largely attributable to higher interest income earned in the period. Speaker 500:23:24Net loss for the Q2 of 2023 was $85,600,000 or $1.13 per basic share compared to a net loss of $67,000,000 or $1.05 per basic share for the same period in 2022. On a non GAAP adjusted basis, Net loss for the Q2 of 2023 was $58,200,000 or $0.77 per basic share compared to a net loss of $41,300,000 or Securities of $491,300,000 As Eric highlighted earlier, we were pleased to recently enter into the agreement to sell our bile acid product portfolio to Mirim Pharmaceuticals up to $445,000,000 This transaction is clear strategic and financial benefits for Travir. From a financial perspective, This transaction will bring forward several years of value from the products and meaningfully strengthen our balance sheet with an upfront payment of $210,000,000 at close. Furthermore, we will have the potential to realize up to $235,000,000 in additional value from sales based milestones as Kolbom and Kenadol continue to be important treatment options for patients in For the second half of the year, we anticipate our operating expenses to remain at or modestly below the levels we reported for the first half of the year, With some variability quarter to quarter as we continue to advance our programs and complete the bile acid portfolio transaction, which is expected to close in the Q3. Speaker 500:24:48Importantly, with our reported cash balance at the end of the second quarter and the expected net proceeds from the Byle Asset Portfolio transaction, We expect that we can manage our balance sheet to support operations beyond 2025 and achieve the key goals from our programs with significant growth potential. With that, I'll now turn the call back over to Eric for his closing comments. Eric? Speaker 200:25:09Thank you, Chris. I'm proud of the team's accomplishments in the first half of twenty twenty three and the significant progress we have made towards delivering innovative treatments for patients with rare disease. We have had an outstanding start to the launch of PILSPARI, which is performing to our high expectations and on track to potentially reach blockbuster status at peak. We remain encouraged by the profile of sparsentan in FSGS and look forward to engaging with the FDA in the near term. Pegdibatinase data from the Phase III COMPOSE study represents further evidence of its potential to become the only disease modifying treatment in a potential multibillion dollar market in the future. Speaker 200:25:50And by entering into the agreement to divest our bile acid portfolio, Our teams will be able to further concentrate their efforts on our exciting pipeline opportunities, aligning with our goal of delivering significant value in the quarters and years ahead. In the second half of the year, we look forward to providing important updates on our pipeline programs. These milestones hold the potential to make meaningful Positive impacts on the lives of those impacted by rare disease and therefore we will continue to execute with urgency. Let me now turn the call over to Naomi for Q and A. Speaker 100:26:27Naomi? Thank you, Eric. We can now open the line up for Q and A. Operator? Operator00:26:33Thank We will now take the first question from the line of Anupam Rama from JPMorgan. Anupam Rama, your line is open. Speaker 500:27:07Hi. Thank you for taking the question. This is actually Malcolm Kuno on for Anupam. Just one question. What does your market research suggest about Speaker 200:27:25Thanks for the great question. And I will turn that one over to Peter. Speaker 400:27:35Thanks, Eric. Yes, what I would say is Duve, I would like you to think about this kind of a it's a rolling launch. We started promoting FilSpire with PI Materials only consistent to the FDA guidance that are approved through accelerated approval. Now that we are past day 120, we have the ability to promote. And as in every launch, there is an adoption curve with innovators and early adopters, and this is what we plan for in our focused targeting efforts. Speaker 400:28:05To your question, with more data, we'll further reinforce the first party profile and allow some new communication opportunities. And I think this will help us To further broaden the prescriber base. Speaker 500:28:17Great. Thank you. Speaker 200:28:20Thank you, Malcolm. Operator00:28:22We will take our next question from the line of Tyler Van Buren from TD Cowen. Tyler Van Buren, your line is open. Speaker 600:28:32Thank you. Good afternoon. Thanks for taking the question. I understand that it could take up to 20 to 60 days for patients to receive coverage. But of the 5 Can you say approximately how many of these are covered and then also potentially how many of them Speaker 200:28:56Thanks for the question, Tyler. And Peter, why don't you take that one? Speaker 400:29:01Yes, happy to take that question, Erik. I would say, as you would expect in the beginning of a launch, especially this early, The metrics in the fulfillment process are highly variable. If I look at where we are, I would say our metrics are right in line with benchmark in rare disease launches. And to your question on the reported 563 patients start forms, I can say that most of these patients have received FOSPARIN. And we see a positive trend of conversion to paid products that we believe will continue with increasing payer coverage decisions to include filsparium in formulas. Operator00:29:43We will take the next question from the line of Greg Harrison with Bank of America. Greg Harrison, your line is now open. Speaker 700:29:51Hey, good afternoon and congrats on all the progress and thanks for taking the question. In the prepared remarks, it was noted that, you now expect the FOSPARIN label to be expanded Along with full approval, what do you think would change in the label? And How would that impact the addressable patient population that could get the drug? Speaker 200:30:22Great. Thanks for the question. So what I would say is that we would expect the label to The full population that we studied in our Phase 3 PROTECT trial, which did enroll patients 1 gram per day and above, which is far broader than what we have in our indication statement now, those patients that are at risk of Rapid progression, typically those patients above 1.5 gram and this was based on FDA's assessment of approval through accelerated approval. So we do believe that there will be an expansion to reflect again the broad efficacy that we have Seeing at least through the interim, in our Phase 3 program. And I'll have Peter talk about how that might impact the addressable population. Speaker 400:31:15Yes. Thanks, Erik. I think there's 2 elements here. I think it helps us to further broaden How physicians think about their addressable patient, I think that's 1. But I also think that there will be a broadening of the prescriber base. Speaker 400:31:30And I think with new data, it provides further confidence that a situation that maybe on the sense right now. And that's something that we are I have been planning for in our targeting efforts. I was calling out the 4,000 nephrologists that we have the 4,500 nephrologists that we have been able to reach. We are planning to expand that further to ultimately 6,000 nephrologists and the broadening of the prescriber base with the broadening of Addressable patient, I think, gives me good confidence for the second half of the year. And ultimately, after we have announced the data and we have the Updated label that we will continue to see growth of Joe Spire in years to come. Speaker 700:32:13Great. That's helpful. If I could sneak one more in, how would you characterize the flow of new patient start forms throughout Q2, was it steady or maybe accelerating towards the end of the quarter? Speaker 200:32:30Yes. Great question. Peter, would you like to take that? Speaker 400:32:33Yes. Greg, I would say it's steadily increasing. Speaker 200:32:38Yes, I think that's right. What I would reflect is that it's increasing and we would As we've seen with other launches that there is variability in the 1st year. Importantly though, Greg, as we talk about what we would In the second half of this year, would be an overall growth in both patient start forms as well as revenues, Given the strong demand that we've seen as well as the great expansion of payer access, that will certainly reflect and growth in both of those in the back half of the year. But quarter to quarter or month to month, we would expect to be see some variability. But we are certainly in a great position to achieve our ambition of making Vilspari the foundational therapy and ultimately Thank you. Operator00:33:36We will take the next question from the line of Joseph Schwartz with Leerink Partners. Joseph Schwartz, your line is now open. Speaker 800:33:45Great. Thanks so much and congrats on the quarter. I was wondering if you could walk us through some of the Powering assumptions that have gone into the Protect design, I think I saw somewhere that Protect was powered to detect a 30% And also a 2.9 millimeters per min per year difference in total eGFR slope. Speaker 400:34:13And then I think you Speaker 800:34:16repowered the study, but then A paper came out by Incur et al. That, predicted that a 30% difference in proteinuria would produce a 1.67 Unit difference in total eGFR slope. And so I'm wondering, since sparsentan actually produced a 41% relative reduction, which I think Incur at all would predict to drive a 2.77 unit Difference in total eGFR slope. How to interpret these relationships Given that companies usually power studies for smaller changes than they expect to see. And so my question I guess is, what given the Trial has been repowered once and some of these relationships have evolved over time. Speaker 800:35:18How was the trial initially powered? How do you see it being powered now? And we've heard Maybe it's just with respect to FSGS that very small changes could be clinically meaningful. Would changes Of a smaller magnitude, it will be possible to drive a stat sig result in Protect? Speaker 200:35:41Yes. Joe, thank you for the question. I think, Jula is well poised to be able to provide some clarity on that question. Speaker 300:35:50Yes. Thanks, Joe. Just to clarify, you're correct. We have 90% greater than 90% power to detect A difference in slope of 2.9 ml per minute per year with 380 patients. And that's how we originally powered the trial that was based on historical data and you're correct Achieving at least a 30% difference in proteinuria, which we did achieve. Speaker 300:36:12So we now have additional data as you pointed out the incremental analysis for example our Interim data and we achieved a 41% relative reduction in proteinuria, which was, as you said, greater than we predicted. So we did conditional power calculations based on the available interim eGFR data as well as trial level analysis, which gave us a high level of confidence That will achieve a clinically meaningful and statistically significant effect at 2 years and this data did support our accelerated approval. I did want to clarify one thing is that we didn't repower, but we did over recruit. So we do continue to have a high level of confidence that we will achieve Both clinically meaningful and statistically significant effects. And I will just also add that, yes, I don't think we need to hit as high based on the additional data of What we originally powered on is based on the treatment effect and variability, but we remain highly confident that we will hit statistical significance at 2 years. Speaker 800:37:11Thank you very much. Operator00:37:15We will take the next question from the line of Maury Raycroft of Jefferies. Please. Maury Raycroft, your line is open. Speaker 900:37:23Hi, congrats on the progress and thanks for taking my question. I was wondering what are your latest thoughts on FOSPARI revenue for the full year 2023 as it relates to the consensus number for the year, Which you've commented on in the past. And also wondering separately what feedback you're getting related to REMS and REMS implementation and how is this impacting access or PSF conversions? Speaker 200:37:49Corey, thanks for the questions. Why don't I start with The Filsparity revenue for the full year, I think we've been very pleased with what we saw in the first half. And I think with the demand that we are seeing generated launched to date that we fully expect to see an acceleration of revenue in the second half of this year. With consensus, I think largely in line with how other 1st year rail renal sales have gone, We think that we're in good position there. So I think that we believe that we're going to see a strong second half of the year, including some of the potential seasonality in the summer months that we've seen with other rare renal launches to date. Speaker 200:38:33So I think we're well positioned for a strong launch. And again, this 1st year is really about setting the foundation for us to become a blockbuster in Foundational therapy in the treatment paradigm. I'll turn it over to Peter to give some feedback on what he's hearing in terms of REMS Certification and what this means for conversions? Speaker 400:38:55Yes. Happy to do so, Eric. And Maurice, thanks for the question. I would say let me start by referring to the demand that we were able to generate with FOLSARY in the first half. Those 5 63 patient platforms are generated considering the REMS program. Speaker 400:39:15And what we are seeing is that when the physician appreciates the strong And safety profile of Closparin in combination with the urgency to treat, the doctor will have the conversation with his or her patient that is at risk of rapid progression. And so I think it really comes back to focusing on the long fundamentals. Erik was talking about building the foundation in the 1st year, the 1st 6 to 9 months that we have outlined before. So this comes back to really like educating us the nephrology community on Fiosparis' efficacy and safety profile in novel mode of action as well as ensuring a positive first experience. And as we mentioned in this call, we canceled this and we are making solid progress in the year. Speaker 900:39:57Got it. Thanks for taking my questions. Speaker 200:40:01Thanks, Mark. Operator00:40:03We will take our next question from the line of Tim Lugo with William Blair. Tim Lugo, your line is now open. Speaker 1000:40:11Thanks for the question and congrats on the good quarter. With the bile acid portfolio being carved out, how should we expect Gross margins to trend over the next few quarters during the launch and then maybe what will gross margins be trending at maturity? Speaker 200:40:30Chris, why don't you take that question? Thanks for it, Tim. Speaker 400:40:35Yes, happy to do that. Speaker 500:40:36Thanks for the question, Tim. In terms of specifics for gross margins, it will be easier for us to be able to comment on that once we've closed the transaction and we have some of the And then carve out statements that will be available. But what I can point you to is that we do expect to see a reduction In expense related to the bile acid portfolio, that will come in both SG and A and R and D. And when you think about SG and A, You've got a small sales force that is supporting coal bomb and you've got promotional efforts that go into that. So that would transition. Speaker 500:41:07And then from an R and D perspective, we do have Small Phase 3 study that's ongoing to support Kenadol as well as some, biostats and regulatory work. And We do expect that those expenses will transition as we move forward and we'll be able to go into a bit more detail as to the specifics on margins there as we go forward. In terms of margins for the launch, we've commented historically that we expect thus far to get to a stable state of mid to high And really there, at least on a gross and net perspective, and everything we see thus far is in line with obtaining that. Speaker 1000:41:48Okay. Fair enough. And yes, there were some comments about seasonality in the summer, but then also some destocking And Q2 and reorders, which I assume would impact Q3. Can you kind of Put those together, it sounds like you mentioned consensus is assuming in line with the rare arena launch, other rare arena launches. Are you pretty comfortable with what Q3 consensus is? Speaker 200:42:19So Tim, what I can characterize is in the second half Of the year, we do expect to see a ramp in our revenues. And I think in Q3, we do expect to see A pull through of the demand that we were able to generate in patient start forms in Q2. And as we've seen a meaningful improvement in payer access, we think a lot of that will convert to paid scripts. But in the first part of a launch, it is variable. And there is there still is some time even with great access to be able to really tighten that correlation between demand and revenue. Speaker 200:43:02So we think that that's going to really start to play through in the Q3. And then really by the end of this year, we should start to see the Patient Start forms and revenue really tie closely together. The other thing that I will mention is that with many of the other launches within this space, in their 1st year of launch, Close to 50% of the revenues are generated in the last quarter of the year. We Fully expect that that is something that we could see here. But taking a step back, I think we're very confident in our ability to meet those And we're off to a strong start, but we still have to continue to execute, lay that foundation that Peter talked about and continue to deliver The strong demand that was generated in the first half of the year. Speaker 400:43:53Understood. Thank you so much. Speaker 200:43:56Thank you. Operator00:43:59Our next question comes from the line of Mohit Bansal with Wells Fargo. Mohit Bansal, your line is open. Speaker 800:44:07Hey, this is Adam on for Mohit. What are the current areas of focus to ensure the Filspirone launches a success? And with start forms or sales be the better metric to watch over the next two quarters? Speaker 200:44:20Yes, it's a great question, Adam. Why don't I take that one? I would say earlier in launch patient start forms are the best lead indicator. It truly is reflective of the underlying demand by patients and by physicians. And I think as we've seen, that's a very strong focus. Speaker 200:44:39I think as we now have An increase in access and what Peter laid out in the last couple of calls is it takes About 3 quarters to lay that foundation for a launch like this. And so we're well positioned to do that. Once we get through that, we do Expect to see meaningful uplift in revenue and that really should be then the measure of success moving forward. But I think as we've demonstrated in Q2 patient start forms reflect a high level of demand out there. We expect that will continue through the rest of the year. Speaker 200:45:12And again, we'll be positioned to have a very successful launch in the years to come. Speaker 500:45:18Great. Thank you. Speaker 200:45:20Thank you. Operator00:45:22We will take our next question from the line of Vamil Divan with Guggenheim Securities. Vamil Divan, your line is now open. Speaker 1100:45:30Great. Thanks for taking the questions and all the color on the call. So just maybe you can provide a little more insight on just sort of exactly Patients are getting prescribed FOSPHARI. I'm trying to get a sense of sort of are they ones in the academic setting versus On the community setting, are they being prescribed after they get an SGLT-two, before SGLT-two? Also maybe just kind of how Tarpeo Just fitting into this, is this generally being given on top of Tarpeo? Speaker 1100:45:57So any other sort of added insights on the sort of patient profile that's being prescribed? The product would be helpful. Thank you. Speaker 200:46:05Great. Thank you for the questions. Peter, why don't you take those? Speaker 400:46:10Yes. Thanks for that question, Amil. Well, I think patient characteristic, I think several items I would call out here. I think first from a payer coverage perspective, What we said from the onset is that 2 thirds of those patients are commercial and that is very much in line with our expectations. It's a patient population that is predominantly male. Speaker 400:46:32That's also in line with our expectations. I think the average age what we are seeing is in the mid-40s. But the particular question that you were asking like where does it sit in the treatment paradigm. And what we start to see is that physicians understand that this is early on as it is replacing ACE and ARPS. Often, these are rapidly progressing patients and often those patients are right now on RAS inhibition together with SGLT-two. Speaker 400:47:00So what we are seeing is that for those patients that are being prescribed right now, It's replacing ACE inhibitors or ARBs, but often in combination with SGLT-two. To your other question with regards to TARPEO, Clearoids in general are like at a later resort, but it's still on top of Asian ARPS or now We feel sorry. That's how we see it being used as well. Okay. Thank you. Speaker 1000:47:33Thank you. Operator00:47:36We will take our next question from the line of Laura Chico with Wedbush Securities. Laura Chico, your line is now open. Speaker 100:47:44Hey, good afternoon. Thanks very much for taking the questions. I just had 2 quick ones. So first, Eric, just following up on your earlier comments with potential label expansion. And I think this might have been asked a little bit, but are you not seeing any patients kind of below that threshold The proteinuria indicated on the label or is there kind of some indication that they are waiting for label expansion to begin moving into that kind of patient population set. Speaker 100:48:13And then just real quickly FSGS, what are the range of outcomes that Speaker 300:48:16we should expect from the Speaker 200:48:21Great. Why don't I take the first one and then Jula can take the FSGS question. So we are seeing some patients that are below 1.5 grams of proteinuria because there are other factors that physicians do determine the level of risk of progression. So we are seeing that. But as you can imagine, Most of the patients early in launch are the most severe that really have very few options, if any, in the treatment of our material. Speaker 200:48:54So We do expect that a label expansion will help in increasing the number of patients that would be available for us to treat, but also just the level of evidence that would be within that Full approval label. So as Peter mentioned, it's sort of a rolling launch with additional evidence and support moving forward. So I think we've been pleased with the clear understanding that physicians have about helping treat patients with VOSFARI that are at risk. And Julep, why don't you address the question about potential outcomes for FSGS? Speaker 300:49:29Yes. So as we said on the call, we have a meeting with the And with the DUPLEX results in hand, which we have been analyzing and as I mentioned, we released the interim data, which shows durable effects On proteinuria, positive trends on eGFR, positive trends on kidney outcomes and then a great safety profile, we're really seeking to understand the agency's expectations for submission and really overall willingness to accept a submission based on the totality of data that we've already released and the additional data that we have analyzed. So And we do expect to be in a position to provide an update to you all later in the fall. Speaker 1000:50:07Thanks very much. Thank you. Operator00:50:12Our next question comes from the line of Alex Thompson with Stifel. Alex Thompson, your line is now open. Speaker 500:50:19Great. Thanks. Maybe for Peter, could you provide any color on patients And liver monitoring, the setting in which the blood test is ongoing and patients maybe getting a second course of therapy so far? And then maybe for Chris, could Can you talk about what assumptions are embedded in your runway guidance around past 2025? Thanks. Speaker 200:50:43All right. Peter, would you like to take the first one? Speaker 400:50:47Yes, absolutely. Alex, thanks for your question. If I understand you correctly, it's like what is the repeat prescription of YOSPARI with like the monitoring of Liver testing. What we're seeing so far the patients that have started JOSPARI that there is a high level of repeat Prescription and Compliance. So we don't see at this point that there's any implication or complication with the monthly delivering Testing, but it's really on new ones, but so far, high compliance. Speaker 200:51:23And Chris for Runway. Speaker 500:51:25Yes, happy to take that. Thanks, Alex. So Included in the cash runway guidance are a number of things. The first is, of course, the IgA nephropathy launch, 2nd being investment in the pegdevatinase pivotal program and that getting off the ground later this year. Also baked into that is maintenance of discipline spend for FSGS while we have those discussions with FDA and evaluate next steps. Speaker 500:51:51We also bring into that continued competitive dynamics for Thiola and potential pressure on that business. And then any milestones that we would either receive and or pay as a result of the various different programs that are going forward and sales trajectory. So hopefully that gives you a good sense for all of what's in there. Great. Super helpful. Speaker 500:52:13Thank you. Speaker 200:52:14Thanks, Alex. Operator00:52:16Our next question comes from the line of Ed Arce with H. C. Wainwright. Ed Arce, your line is now open. Speaker 1200:52:24Great. Thanks for taking my questions and congrats on the progress in the quarter. A couple from me, really just to follow-up on And prior questions, 1st, with regard to meeting with the FDA later this year on FSGS, I wanted to get a little bit more granularity around some of the scenarios or perhaps proposals that you're coming to the meeting with, In particular, whether a new trial would include more patients or higher power or perhaps a longer lead in period or some other aspects that would better correlate proteinuria with The long term outcome of the GFR. And then secondly, around the label Expansion in IGAN. Just wondering if you can put some type of a quantitative Description around the incremental size of patients if you go down from the 1.5 grams now to the 1 gram after Thanks so much. Speaker 200:53:37Ed, thank you for the questions. Maybe, I can take a stab at the FDA I think fundamentally, we're looking for FDA to align on our view that the totality of data that we've generated to date sparsentan in FSGS would be sufficient for us to submit an sNDA. I don't really foresee that we would undertake a large trial at this point. I think that the data that we have is sufficient. Julia, would you like to add any other color to that? Speaker 300:54:09I would echo what Eric had to say. And really, this is our first meeting with them, them being able to see the data, the totality of results that we've generated And a consistent and durable effect on proteinuria and positive trends on many other meaningful endpoints. So it's really just to have a first conversation to show them the data and have a discussion about next steps. Speaker 200:54:38And Peter, would you like to take the question about the expanded population? Speaker 400:54:47Sorry, can you repeat the question? I missed that. Speaker 200:54:49Yes. The question is quantifying How many additional patients might there be with the expanded label for IGATA at full approval? Speaker 400:55:00Yes. I think it is important to realize that even though the label reads right now for patients at high risk of Disease progression generally with the proteinuria higher than 1.5. That doesn't exclude patients below 1.5 because there may be other factors Why the physician determines that a patient is on a path of rapid progression. So we see also utilization below 1.5. But I think to the point that I made earlier on the call, with the broadening of the label, we also will see broadening On the prescriber base, because that provides further confidence in the profile and an opportunity for communication. Speaker 400:55:43And as Eric mentioned earlier, initially in the launch, often you are being prescribed in patients that have not had success with any other treatment options. And as physicians start to see what Gylfire can do and means for their own patients, that stimulates Repeat prescription as well. And that's what we start to hear and that really pleases me. Speaker 200:56:06Yes. I think maybe the only other thing I would add, Ed, I think there's going to be 2 factors for us assuming that the addressable population now of 30,000 to 50,000 expands Given that there are up to 150,000 patients in the U. S. With IgA nephropathy, I think fundamentally it's going to be the addressable increase of those patients That are below 1.5. And I think a very compelling data set that we now have, that Julep shared from the RADAR analysis reflects that even patients that may have been considered low risk, those patients that may have 0.5 grams, There is a proportion of them that are at risk of progression. Speaker 200:56:48So I think there is going to be increased awareness of who's at risk as well as earlier diagnosis as we have more education in IgAN in the years to come. So there's actually Several different factors that are likely to expand the addressable population, not just in the label expansion. So We can certainly talk about that in future quarters, but we do believe that there are several meaningful factors that should expand the population moving forward. Speaker 1200:57:21Great. That's helpful. Thank you, Eric. Speaker 200:57:23Thank you. Operator00:57:25This concludes today's question and answer session. I will now turn the call back to Naomi Eichenbaum for any additional or closing remarks. Speaker 100:57:36Thank you. This concludes our Q2 update. We look forward to keeping you updated throughout the remainder of the year and speaking with you all again soon. Have a great rest of your evening.Read morePowered by