NASDAQ:TRUP Trupanion Q2 2023 Earnings Report $34.72 +0.54 (+1.58%) Closing price 04/17/2025 04:00 PM EasternExtended Trading$34.72 +0.01 (+0.01%) As of 04/17/2025 04:20 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. Earnings HistoryForecast Trupanion EPS ResultsActual EPS-$0.33Consensus EPS -$0.42Beat/MissBeat by +$0.09One Year Ago EPS-$0.33Trupanion Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$270.60 millionExpected Revenue$262.81 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$7.79 millionYoY Revenue Growth+23.30%Trupanion Announcement DetailsQuarterQ2 2023Date8/3/2023TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateThursday, August 3, 2023Conference Call Time4:30PM ETUpcoming EarningsTrupanion's Q1 2025 earnings is scheduled for Thursday, May 1, 2025, with a conference call scheduled at 4:30 PM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Q1 2025 Earnings ReportConference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Trupanion Q2 2023 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrAugust 3, 2023 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 14 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good day, and welcome to the Trupanion Second Quarter 2023 Earnings Call. All participants will be in listen only mode. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Laura Bainbridge with Investor Relations. Operator00:00:24Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:25Good afternoon, and welcome to Trupanion's Q2 2023 Financial Results Conference Call. Participating on today's call are Daryl Rawlings, Chief Executive Officer Margie Tooth, President and Wei Li, Interim Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, I would like to remind everyone that during today's conference call, we will make certain forward looking statements regarding the future operations, Opportunities and financial performance of Trupanion within the meaning of the Safe Harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These statements involve a high degree of known and unknown risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those discussed. A detailed discussion of these and other risks and uncertainties are included in our earnings release, which can be found on our Investor Relations website as well as the company's most recent reports On Forms 10 ks and 8 ks filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission, today's presentation contains references to non GAAP financial measures That management uses to evaluate the company's performance, including without limitation, variable expenses, fixed expenses, adjusted operating income, Acquisition costs, internal rate of return, adjusted EBITDA and free cash flow. Speaker 100:01:38When we use the term adjusted operating income or margin, It is intended to refer to our non GAAP operating income or margin before new pet acquisition and development expense. Unless otherwise noted, Margins and expenses will be presented on a non GAAP basis, which excludes stock based compensation expense and depreciation expense. These non GAAP measures are in addition to and not a substitute for measures of financial performance prepared in accordance with the U. S. GAAP. Speaker 100:02:03Investors are encouraged to review these reconciliations of these non GAAP financial measures to the most directly comparable GAAP results, which can be found in today's press release or on Trupanion's Investor Relations website under the Quarterly Earnings tab. Lastly, I would like to remind everyone that today's conference call is also available via webcast on Trupanion's Investor Relations website. A replay will also be available on the site. With that, I'll hand the call over to Daryl. Speaker 200:02:29Thanks, Laura. 2 months ago, we hosted our Annual Shareholder Meeting. I'll touch on a few of the highlights today and encourage you to watch our annual meeting highlights video available on our Investor Relations website. Among the highlights shared were 3 key priorities. 1st, expansion of our adjusted operating margin 2nd, deploying capital efficiently and third, Returning to free cash flow positive by Q4 of 2023. Speaker 200:02:57In Q2, we saw early signs of progress in each of these areas. I'll elaborate on these now. Adjusted operating income was $16,800,000 in the quarter. After an extended period of margin compression, I'm encouraged to Margins not only stabilize, but sequentially expand. Assuming the rate of veterinary inflation remains consistent with our expectations As it did in Q2, we expect further margin expansion in the second half of the year as our pricing actions continue to take hold. Speaker 200:03:28In the quarter, we deployed 19,000,000 to acquire over 75,000 gross new pets. I'm thrilled with the team's ability to add 23% More pets year over year while deploying 6% less in acquisition spend. In my opinion, this is a strong result. On a per pet basis, the cost to acquire a pet was 24% lower than the prior year period. Managing acquisition spend in relation to pet lifetime value is a honed skill of the team and one we will continue to refine at extremely granular levels. Speaker 200:04:03I'll elaborate on this point momentarily. The combination of early margin expansion and efficiencies in our pet acquisition spend Help drive a $3,900,000 sequential improvement in free cash flow in the quarter. Additional actions taken in the quarter to reduce Spend are expected to further advance us towards our goal of achieving free cash flow positive in Q4. Overall, I'm encouraged by the progress the team has made over the past 4 months. This progress is evident in our results, which are once again more closely aligned with our expectations. Speaker 200:04:39We have more work to do, but the team is focused on executing diligently through a dynamic environment. Long term, our goal remains to grow adjusted operating income and deploy increasing amounts at high internal rates of return. As we manage through this near term period of margin compression, we're throttling back on spend And allocating capital to those markets and geographies in which we are more accurately priced to our value proposition. This decentralized approach delivered strong new pet growth in the quarter, while furthering our progress towards our margin expansion and free cash flow goals. We will maintain our granular approach as the business grows from one to many P and Ls, allocating capital to products, Channels and geographies that deliver the highest rates of return. Speaker 200:05:29Understanding and managing our spend in relation to how we believe these Can and will vary dramatically based on the individual characteristics of that pet. That's before introducing varying levels of coverage, Products like FERCAN and PHI Direct, our suite of offerings with Chewy and Aflac and new markets like Continental Europe. As our mix of business evolves, our goal is to report on the internal rate of return for our new mix of pets in a more granular way. Historically, our calculation was based on an average, assumed every new pet behaves similarly to our existing book of business. For example, it assumed pets regardless of product, channel and geography had the same ARPU and margin profile And with the equal retention to our existing book. Speaker 200:06:28Now for many years as a mostly single line business, this was an appropriate An appropriately conservative way to talk about it. With new products, channels and geographies becoming a more meaningful portion of new business, These assumptions have become less relevant. This is not a new concept for us. Recall, I discussed this in a greater detail in this year's shareholder letter. I further shared an example of Continental Europe where new pet ARPU is approximately $30 compared to that of our total book at approximately 64 If we were to use a simple consolidated average, as we previously reported, the estimated return on our spend to acquire these European pets Would be overstated. Speaker 200:07:14This too would be the case with our newer products, if we were to assume equal retention to our existing book. Our newer products with less coverage have retention similar to what we believe the industry average retention is of approximately 30 months Compared to Trupanion's over 70 months, as you've heard me say before, less coverage drives lower retention. With this in mind, moving forward, we intend to provide increasing levels of granularity into the returns of our various products, Margie will provide some more detail momentarily. Stepping back, I believe the changes we've made over the past several months are proving out and set us up well to deliver improved performance moving forward. We're starting to see signs of margin expansion. Speaker 200:08:06We are investing our capital prudently and we're making progress towards a goal of free cash flow positive in Q4. We're seeing good growth and scale in our new initiatives and through our international efforts, we're meaningfully expanding our addressable market. Most importantly, our decentralized management approach is taking hold with the team delivering stronger and more predictable results. With that, I'll hand it over to Margie to add additional context around our quarterly performance and execution of our 16 month plan. Margie? Speaker 300:08:38Thanks, Daryl. Good afternoon, everyone. I'm pleased to share the ongoing progress that has been made since our Annual Shareholder Meeting just 8 weeks ago. The team has remained disciplined in capital allocation, leaning into our most efficient channels during the quarter. This strategy enabled the delivery of yet another Quarter of deliberate and meaningful growth while preserving our balance sheet. Speaker 300:09:00We added over 75,000 Grow See Pets in the quarter. This is particularly strong growth when considering the intentional reduction of pet acquisition investment, which was down 6% year over year. In the quarter, we began adjusting and in places reducing our acquisition spend to ensure we are aligning our investment to areas with the strongest lifetime value in geographies where we're able to provide value to our members consistent with our brand and pricing promise. Our estimated internal rate of return was 25% in the quarter. As a reminder, we use IRR to predict the estimated future cash flows from our newly acquired pets. Speaker 300:09:38ARPU, retention and adjusted operating margin are key inputs into this calculation. In Q2, 2, our trailing 12 month margin was 10%, which is temporarily reduced given current inflationary pressures. As you'll soon hear, we've made progress on our pricing actions and are beginning to see early signs of margin expansion, a trend we expect to continue this year and into next. Moving forward, we will be contemplating an adjustment to our IRR calculation that we believe will more appropriately and conservatively reflect the New Pet ARPU, retention and margin contribution from each line of business and aligned to a more decentralized approach. Recall, we talked This more granular approach to capital allocation in our most recent shareholder letter and also at our shareholder meeting. Speaker 300:10:24We'll be providing this updated metric in our Q3 earnings release. Overall, we view the returns of our new book of business as strong in the current climate. And moving forward, We will continue to use a multi angle view when assessing our pet acquisition performance. For the quarter, we continue to benefit from our deepest moat, our vet centric approach. In today's inflationary backdrop, the conversation around Trupanion is resonating more clearly than ever before. Speaker 300:10:50Veterinary leads are up And we continue to see solid levels of conversion. As we continue to increase the penetration of this market, we look forward to the day that our veterinary partners are freed up Financial conversations and instead are able to practice the very best medicine that is studied and trained for. Ultimately, we look forward to ending economic euthanasia. With this in mind, throughout the quarter, we maintained our focus on retention, with the average Trupanion member staying with us an estimated 74 months. Given the increase in rate now flowing through consistently to our members, we are pleased with this level of retention. Speaker 300:11:25We believe it's a reflection of strong execution in today's environment. Now let me touch on our pricing efforts. In Q2, the pricing refinement and rate adjustments across North America continued with us securing additional rate in over 30 states. The average rate flowing through our book in Q2 was 16.3%. By the end of this month, we expect to have 20.8% pricing flowing through our book. Speaker 300:11:50Keep in mind, this rate will be immediately applied to new members and rolled through the book as policies renew. By the end of September, This should increase to 22.9% and by the end of October to 23.9%, a rate we currently expect to hold through year end. As an example, this means renewing policies in October will see a 23.9% average rate increase. This increase is relative to what these members are currently paying, which was set last October for these policies. As shared in more detail in our Annual Shareholder Meeting, We are constantly monitoring the overall costs across the industry to ensure operating assumptions remain true. Speaker 300:12:28We're pleased to report that in the second quarter, Growth in cost of care remain consistent with the Q1 and in line with our assumptions. Should this change, we will be poised to take additional action as needed in the coming months. As a result of the increased rate flow, we saw over 60 basis points of sequential improvement toward our value proposition target during the quarter. At all times, it's our goal to return to our target value proposition of 71%. So while we still have some work to do there, I am encouraged by the team's progress towards this critical target metric. Speaker 300:13:00We also saw a 60 basis point sequential improvement in our subscription adjusted Operating margin in the quarter. With cost of care currently increasing in line with our 15% year over year operating assumptions, We continue to see a path to our 15% adjusted operating margin target toward the end of next year. While Trupanion remains the primary engine behind our performance, We continue to see solid contribution from our newer products and channels collectively. With these products ramping in market, we're making solid efficiency gains. In Q2, Chewy expanded their comprehensive and proactive marketing campaign to introduce their insurance product line to their millions of pet parents. Speaker 300:13:38Following this activity, we've been pleased to see lead growth of this channel accelerate. In addition, we continue to see increasing contribution from our European endeavors. We added approximately 4,000 new pets during the quarter and very shortly will be launching in Poland, adding an additional 8,000 hospitals to our addressable market, which totals over 50,000. Demand in Continental Europe for a Trupanion like product, which is known for its broad coverage and vet centric approach, remains high. We're excited to bring our Trupanion product to a handful of countries in Continental Europe by year end. Speaker 300:14:11Product, channel and international market expansion are key tenants of our 60 After a period of upfront investment, many of our new initiatives are in market and beginning to contribute more meaningfully to our growth. In the quarter, approximately 13,000 of our gross Nippet adds or about 17% came from our new 60 month plan initiatives. Our appetite for sustainable growth in our underpenetrated market has not changed, and yet we will maintain discipline in our approach at all times with all products in all markets, Balancing our appetite to grow this marketplace with our desire to live within our guardrails. At times, this may mean throttling back or reducing spend and prioritizing the strength of our balance sheet. We believe this is the right thing to do. Speaker 300:14:55In the quarter, we took very deliberate actions to ensure we are operating as efficiently as possible across all areas of our business. The intention of this action was to reduce costs, many of which were centered around some of our long term test initiatives that derive limited, immediate or short term benefits. While many areas of the organization were able to improve efficiencies, these reductions were predominantly in fixed expenses and pet acquisition and not in areas directly responsible for supporting our members or partners. In further support of our efforts to enhance effective deployment of our capital, The team has made some very meaningful progress in the development of our long awaited next generation policy administration and claims adjudication platform. As we approach the final stages of our migration, we should see reduced capital expenditures next year. Speaker 300:15:41Subsequent to quarter end, we also launched our new Jupanium website Designed to be more interactive and easier for members and prospective members to learn about, enroll and engage with Trupanion. In totality, our combined actions across pricing deployment and proven ability to throttle back growth as needed further position us to deliver a solid second half performance related to our key priorities as well as on our goal to achieve positive free cash flow in the Q4 of this year. With that, I'll hand it over to Wei to talk you through our Q2 results And outlook for the remainder of the year. Speaker 400:16:13Thanks, Margie, and good afternoon, everyone. It's great to speak with you all on my first earnings call as Interim CFO. Today, I will share additional details around our Q2 performance as well as provide our outlook for the Q3 full year of 2023. Total revenue for the quarter was $270,600,000 up 23% year over year and ahead of our expectations. Within our subscription business, revenue was $173,300,000 in the quarter, up 19% year over year. Speaker 400:16:48Total subscription pets increased 23% year over year to over 943,000 pets as of June 30, 2023. Calculated on a trailing 12 month basis, our average monthly retention across all of our North America subscription products was 98.61% compared to 98.74% in the prior year period, equating to an average life of 72 months. Unless otherwise noted, the metrics I'm sharing today are presented on a consolidated basis and will be influenced by our mix of business, including new products, channels and eventually geographies, as Margie discussed. Our European Pads are currently underwritten by 3rd party underwriters and are therefore not included in our per pet metrics today. Monthly average revenue per pet for the quarter was $64.41 This quarter and moving forward, we will also break out new pet ARPU. Speaker 400:17:48Average new pet ARPU for our subscription book of business in North America was $61.49 in the quarter. Breaking down our year over year subscription revenue growth of 19% for the quarter, Pet growth contributed 19%. Pricing increases added 10%, while mix reduced it by 9%. Lastly, foreign exchange reduced revenue growth by 1%. Subscription business cost of paying veterinary invoices were 100 and $33,400,000 in the quarter, resulting in a loss ratio of 77%, a 60 basis point Sequential improvement over the last quarter. Speaker 400:18:30As a percentage of subscription revenue, variable expenses were 9.7% in the quarter, Down from 9.9% in the prior year period and down from 10.1% in the prior quarter, reflecting some cost efficiencies. Fixed expenses as a percentage of revenue were 5.1% in the quarter, up from 4.3% in the prior year period and 4.7% in the prior quarter. Fixed expenses include costs related to our new subscription products in North America and Europe. Within fixed expenses for the quarter were approximately $700,000 of onetime expenses. Absent these costs, Fixed expenses as a percentage of revenue would have been largely flat quarter over quarter. Speaker 400:19:18After the cost of paying veterinary invoices, Variable expenses and fixed expenses. We calculate our adjusted operating income. Our subscription business delivered adjusted operating income A $14,100,000 or 8.2 percent of subscription revenue, this is up from 7.6% in the prior quarter or approximately 60 basis points of sequential margin expansion. Now I'll turn to our other business segment, which is comprised of revenue from other Products and services that generally have a B2B component and a different margin profile than our subscription business. Our other business revenue was $97,300,000 for the quarter, an increase of 32% year over year. Speaker 400:20:03Adjusted operating income for this segment was $2,600,000 in the quarter. In total, adjusted operating income was 16,800,000 in Q2. This was down 19% from the prior year period, but up 8% sequentially. During the quarter, we deployed 19,000,000 to acquire over 75,000 new subscription pets. Excluding the 4,000 European pets, This translated into a pet acquisition cost of $2.36 per pet in the quarter. Speaker 400:20:35We also invested $900,000 in In development cost, as a percentage of revenue, development expense was 34 basis points compared to 92 basis points in the prior year period. This step down reflects the shift of some of our new initiatives out of development and into variable, fixed and new pet acquisition expenses Within our subscription business, adjusted EBITDA was a loss of $3,200,000 for the quarter as Compared to a loss of $1,700,000 in the prior year period, depreciation and amortization was $3,300,000 during the quarter. Stock based compensation expense was $6,500,000 during the quarter. We continue to expect stock based compensation to be around $7,000,000 per quarter for the remainder of the year. As a result, net loss was $13,700,000 or a loss of $0.33 per basic and diluted share, the same as the prior year period. Speaker 400:21:33In terms of cash flow, operating cash flow was negative $3,400,000 in the quarter Compared to negative $3,100,000 in the prior year period, capital expenditures totaled $4,700,000 in the quarter. As a result, free cash flow was negative $8,100,000 a $3,900,000 improvement from the Q1. We expect cost actions implemented in the 2nd quarter along with margin expansion to further improve our free cash flow in the second half of the year. We ended the quarter with $236,100,000 in cash and short term investments. We maintained $213,100,000 of capital surplus At our insurance subsidiaries, which was $57,300,000 more than estimated risk based capital requirement of $155,800,000 Outside of these insurance entities, we held $25,400,000 in cash and short term investments at the end of the quarter, with an additional $40,000,000 available under our credit facility. Speaker 400:22:33I will now turn to our outlook. For the full year of 2023, we're increasing our guidance at the midpoint for both revenue and adjusted operating income. Revenue is now expected to be in the range of $1,073,000,000 to $1,089,000,000 representing 19% growth at the midpoint. Subscription revenue is now expected to be in the range of $708,000,000 to $718,000,000 which would represent 20% year over year growth at the midpoint. Total adjusted operating income is now expected to be in the range of $70,000,000 to $80,000,000 At the midpoint of the range, This continues to imply expansion in adjusted operating margin in the second half of the year as our pricing actions flow more meaningfully through our book of business. Speaker 400:23:24For the Q3 of 2023, total revenue is expected to be in the range of $270,000,000 to 275,000,000 Subscription revenue is expected to be in the range of $180,000,000 to $182,000,000 Total Adjusted operating income is expected to be in the range of $18,000,000 to $21,000,000 As a reminder, Our revenue projections are subject to conversion rate fluctuations, predominantly between the U. S. And Canadian currencies. For the Q3 and full year 2023 guidance, we used a 75% conversion rate in our projections, which was the approximate rate at the end of June. Thank you for your time today. Speaker 400:24:07I will now hand the call back over to Daryl. Speaker 200:24:11Thanks, Wei. Before we open it up for questions, I wanted to remind you of our Annual Shareholder Meeting highlight reel available on our IR website. In addition, we'll be in attendance at several upcoming investor events. Margie will be attending the Canaccord Genuity Annual Growth Conference in Boston next week. And next month, we will be in attendance at Lake Street's Big 7 Conference in New York and the Jefferies Virtual Pet and Wellness Conference. Speaker 200:24:36We hope to speak to many of you there. We'll now open it up for questions. Operator00:24:42We will now begin the question and answer session. My first question comes from Maria Ripps from Canaccord. Please go ahead. Speaker 500:25:08Great. Thanks so much for taking my questions. 1st, can you maybe update us on your more recent progress in California with rate increases up to you sort of received the approval there? What's the latest timeline around refiling? And is there anything different that you're doing in terms of how you approach the filing process This time, either in terms of the data that you're presenting to the regulators or anything else? Speaker 500:25:32And then I have a quick follow-up. Speaker 600:25:34Hi, Maria. It's Margie. So yes, so overall, we are pleased with the progress in California. During the quarter, we did get our second approval within So we've had 2 in the last 8 months with stacked rate approval that's going to approximately 21%. In terms of the 13% rate that was That was based on data in November 2022. Speaker 600:25:57So specifically to answer your question about a different approach, What we're doing now, once we have that second approval through Enlivant market, which will be effective from next week, we'll then start working with them again on the next Filing, which will really kind of go into the specifics related to the data that we saw coming through in Q1 and Q2 of 2023. So The last 6 months effectively we'll be able to bake into this new filing, and we'll work with them to dig into the trends we're seeing specific to California I'll help to better articulate the need for the rate that we have there in the state. But overall, I think it's a big step forward in fixing our loss ratio. We now can increase our addressable market in the state of California where we have more neighborhoods which we can reignite growth in. And we'll continue to dig into our approach on lifetime price California to speak at additional rate in the near future, but it's a collaborative relationship and looking forward to that next step. Speaker 500:26:51Got it. That's very helpful. And then, you mentioned 15% adjusted OI target towards the end of next year. So assuming inflation sort of remains consistent with your expectations, is this predicated on another round of From a handful of larger states or do you feel like you have enough approvals under your belt? Speaker 600:27:11Right. So we have by the end of the year, essentially what that means is we will have Stage approvals to hold that rate at the end of the year. So we're not going to continue to go above that rate and I. E. Going in for more approval to expand it. Speaker 600:27:24What we are doing though is winter next year, which will allow us to catch up on the 15. So if we're getting a higher rate than 15, you start to see that margin expansion. This month just gone, we had 16.3% rate flowing through our book, which is why you saw that margin expansion. As you mentioned, if that assumption holds true and we don't see a change in the 15, we believe that we will have sufficient rate and plans in place to get us on track by the end of next year. We will keep monitoring it. Speaker 600:27:50If things change, then we will adjust our approach, but we feel confident right now that we have the right plan in place to get there. Speaker 500:27:57Got it. That's very helpful. Thank you so much, Margit. Speaker 100:28:01Thank you. Operator00:28:03The next Question comes from Shweta Gajuria from Evercore ISI. Please go ahead. Speaker 700:28:11So if the California rate filing, if it does not get approved, what the alternative is at that point And then or and or the impact on the overall book of business? And then I have a follow-up, please. Speaker 600:28:27Yes. Hi, Shota. A little bit further into California than we have been. So we very deliberately pulled back our spend. We're looking at where we have strong margin. Speaker 600:28:36And in areas where we didn't have strong margin and we weren't hitting our target value proposition, I. E, we were giving greater than our target value proposition, we really thought to pull back that growth. So we've been To dig in further into California and get a little bit of that growth moving in other areas, if we do see an extended delay on the next We'll continue to monitor where we are effective and where we have the strong margin. And we will adjust our operating approach terms of growth, strong part of our business, it's not the biggest part of our business, and that's very deliberate as we thought about distribution moving forward for the long term. So we will calibrate, we'll keep checking the data, making sure that we have the right value proposition, and we'll adjust as necessary. Speaker 600:29:15But Right now, as I mentioned, we feel very positive about the relationship with the regulator, and we're encouraged by the dollar, and we'll continue to work with them to do what's right for our members. Speaker 700:29:25That you pulled back on some of the initiatives that were maybe for the mid- to long term or you weren't seeing the returns as expected as part of your cost savings For cost cutting, could you talk about which one specifically those were? Speaker 600:29:40Yes, 3 across the board. So there are some things that we do that ultimately will help us Unlock a few tests. So whenever we look at deploying capital, we try and learn new ways of doing things, new avenues, new tests, new tactics, As well as, I would say for some channels, we're building things out for the future. So they're related to whether it's a bet, whether it's breeders, social media, there are things that we're as much as we can within the existing team set that we have today and ensuring that the things we're doing deliver a return today rather than A tactic that is a test that's not necessarily proven or maybe isn't driving the results we wanted. We've been a little bit more stringent in the quarter around that and So we can be very deliberate with the deployment of capital. Speaker 600:30:23It doesn't harm our core channels. We've stayed very true The vet channel was holding very strong in the quarter, which is testament to the impact of the product that we have. And it just allows us really to focus and double down on Speaker 800:30:41We've gotten enough approvals or the states did not require A approval such that you feel very comfortable going forward in? Speaker 900:30:51Hi, Josh. This is Darryl. It's a very good question. When we look at our total new pets that have come in, We're really breaking the business down into multiple P and Ls. Kind of our historic subscription business, if you took North America, we break it into about 3 different Market. Speaker 900:31:142 of those markets, the average new ARPU is about $74, dollars 75 And the other two markets, the average ARPU is about $56 Speaker 1000:31:25So you could Speaker 900:31:25see that there's a dramatic difference. The area where we have the lower ARPU, about $56 is priced adequately to our value proposition today. It is actually the areas with the higher ARPU that we have had more margin compression over the last 6 to 9 months. In addition to that, when you look at the new products that we have, which represented about 17% of our total new pets in the quarter, Most of those are pretty adequate and that's where, Margie and the team have slowed the growth there. And as we've had the approvals like we've been In the opening remarks, we've had 30 state approvals in the last quarter. Speaker 900:32:10Now we're able to put our foot back more on the gas because we're adequately priced. So It's something you always have to monitor, but you need to monitor in a very granular way across products, distribution channels, not just by the state, but down to a neighborhood level. And for the team to be able to take your average pet acquisition cost of $309 and lower it down to $2.30 in a single year, think it's a testament to the team and pointing those the spend in the right direction. I feel really good about the progress. Speaker 800:32:40Thank you for that answer. And I don't need specific numbers. I don't think you'd give them to me anyways. But when I look at the retention dipping a little bit, obviously, it should be As you raise prices, is the movement coming in the 1st years? Is it coming in those receiving 20% Or greater rate increases or is it in the majority of the book? Speaker 800:33:00I guess that 80% of the book that's neither 1st year nor getting a 20% rate increase. Speaker 900:33:08Well, it's interesting because that slight dip in retention, which as a reminder, it's still well over 70 months and Over double what we think the industry average. That includes our new initiatives. So it includes the new products that have lower coverage, New distribution channel, if you pulled those ones out, I think the retention rate would be very similar to what our average has been in the last couple of years. It remains very strong. It's pretty consistent in our 3 buckets that we talk about in our shareholder letters between 1st year average rate increases than those that have higher. Speaker 900:33:41So Nothing dramatic change here. Margie, do you have anything to add there? Speaker 600:33:48I mean, I think you're right. What we did see, we saw a very strong start to Q2 As we get more and more rate flowing through the book of business, it is our expectation. We see a little bit of a softness coming through. We saw a little bit of that at the end of the quarter, but generally, we feel like the retention has been very I think the team has done a very good job in terms of execution, making sure that value proposition is well understood. And they have a very robust Plan in place for the remainder of the year acknowledging that that rate increase will continue to tick up through the rest of 2023 and into 2024. Speaker 600:34:17So far, we feel confident in the way that they are managing that process, and we'll keep monitoring it in those buckets, as Daryl alluded, and there's a little more granular Detail behind the scene and the retention metrics that Wei shared in terms of the 72 months for the overall book of business, What you have in there is a real mixture, as Daryl mentioned, of products, the channels. We see a very different retention That we mentioned earlier, you're going to see a difference in that retention profile too. But so far so good and we feel like it's in a good place. Speaker 800:34:58Thank you very much for the answers. Operator00:35:02The next question comes from Jon Block from Stifel. Please go ahead. Speaker 1000:35:08Great. Thanks, guys. Good afternoon. First question, can you just talk about the path back for the subscriber MLR, I think it came down 60 bps Q over Q, which was good to see, but it's still pretty darn elevated at 77%. You got some of that stuff in California and New York. Speaker 1000:35:26How should we think about that trend line, call it, into the back half of 2H 'twenty three, sorry, the back part of 'twenty three and even into 'twenty four, do you want to give a little bit more Specific to when you think you'd get back to that 71% target? Speaker 600:35:42Yes, sure. So when we think about the We're happy to see that margin expansion. I think it's back to a little bit more of that predictability that we have known and loved over the last 20 plus years. I think in terms of the rate that we have flowing through at this 16% by the end of Q2, we've got that continuing to increase through this year. So you can expect with That rate, that margin starts to expand even further and brings us closer to our value proposition, as you say. Speaker 600:36:09Still confident with that in mind that we You need to see the 15% increase of inflation across the book of business. If that continues, then by the end of next year, we expect to be back towards target. If it changes, then obviously that will also change and we'll adjust accordingly, but we feel confident with the plans we have in place and the rates we have flowing through, Combined with our attention that we will see that happen in the back end of 2024. Speaker 1000:36:34Okay. Maybe just to ask it differently, is there a certain Trend line that you need into the back part of this year, Margie, in order to hit your free cash flow positive target? Speaker 600:36:46Yes. So for free cash flow positive, we as Wei mentioned, we've seen some good improvement Sequentially, quarter over quarter, so I think $3,900,000 benefit in terms of where we are right now in terms of our cash. I think in The expectation for quarter end year end, sorry, we still fully expect with the rate we have flowing that we're making good progress in Q3 and then 4 is still very much on track in terms of our goal. Speaker 1000:37:13Okay. Thanks for that. And maybe the second question might have a couple of parts. But First, just from an employee perspective, I thought we mentioned some one time expenses. I don't know if it was $700,000 or $900,000 Was that severance? Speaker 1000:37:26And I guess if it was or if it wasn't, Daryl, can you talk about the employee count at Trupanion if that's being curtailed? And if so, Where the company is making some of those changes and then sort of the follow-up on a different topic is just more of a clarification. I think, Daryl, you said, Hey, retention is getting hit a little bit from some of those lower end plans. If you normalize for that, retention would be largely unchanged. But just to be clear, Your pack is also benefiting from that, right? Speaker 1000:37:54You're saying how you've done a great job on pack, but those lower end plans, I believe, have a lower pet acquisition cost. I just want to make sure That would be showing up in both places, right? It'd be hitting your retention, but benefiting your pack arguably. Thanks, guys. Speaker 900:38:11Yes. Margie can answer probably sorry, we got an echo there. The question on Sorry, that was me on my end, sorry. There was about 3% Reduction in headcount across the company during Q2. There was some severance expense. Speaker 900:38:36Margie alluded to that in her opening remarks. And the second part of it is, yes, just as a reminder, Our pet cost was reduced by 6% and yet we had 23% more pets We enrolled during the quarter, but all pets are not created equally. So some of these pets have low ARPU and lower retention, other ones have higher ARPU and higher retention. So it's very important that we look at it in a decentralized way and spend the corresponding amount. When you see the pet acquisition cost drop as dramatically as you did from 309 2:30, it's an evidence that we're doing that. Operator00:39:16The next question comes from Wilma Burdes from Raymond James. Please go ahead. Speaker 1100:39:21Hey, good evening. Maybe you could give us a little bit of color on the Time period for the other business to roll off. I know it has a little bit shorter retention period than the Porsche repaying in business. Is it From what I'm looking at, it seems like maybe starting in 2024 that would roll off over a period of 3 to 5 years. Maybe just Yes, that makes some sense. Speaker 1200:39:49Hey, this is Wei. So I can answer this question. So basically, in the prepared remarks, I The new guidance of the Q4 Q3 and the full year guidance for total revenue and subscription revenue, that implies also the Q3 and Q4 for other business. We have been seeing the growth has been decelerating, but still The pace of rolling off of our book has been slower than we had expected. So we're still expecting a growth from versus last year in the second half of this year. Speaker 1200:40:31And looking at to 2024, There's a lot of uncertainty, but we believe will start to decline, but our model right now is single digits of revenue We have a decline for other business. And as a reminder, the other business margin is usually between 2% 3%. We do think given the new arrangement with PetSmart, it will be about 3% going forward, But it's still much smaller than our subscription business. The revenue projection, I would say, Wouldn't impact too much of our bottom line performance. And I would say in terms of out years after 2024, I would say, it's going to be a pretty long tail based on our experience before. Speaker 1200:41:26And also as a reminder, If they were off quicker than we expected, it will be more capital effective to our capital position. Speaker 1100:41:41Thank you. So I guess maybe the Single digit revenue declines would kind of continue for 2025 and beyond. Is that How I should interpret what you said? Speaker 1200:41:55That's for the 2024. I'll be honest, we haven't Really started the 2025 for this other business. I do not have too much clarity on that. But I would say it's going to be a fairly slow decline over the next 3 to 5 years. Speaker 600:42:17Yes. And if I can just add as well, Will, hi, it's Maggie. Just to echo as what you were saying, we're expecting to be single Great. We want to be good partners. I want to make sure that from the another business perspective that we're able to support the businesses that are partners and came to us For them anyway in the 1st place. Speaker 600:42:34So, the roll off obviously is dependent on their plans and we'll be here to support them. But the main thing for us is ensuring that we have sufficient Benefit from that partnership in terms of the margin, which is why Elite is certainly increased. So we look forward to seeing that be part of our business for a little longer than we It has upside for everybody and we'll continue to share changes as and when they happen. Speaker 1100:42:58Okay. And then one quick one. We noticed that you broke out a new line item over the last few quarters, pet acquisition For commission based policies, it was about $900,000,000 this quarter. Speaker 100:43:10Could you just give a Speaker 1100:43:11little bit of clarity on what that is? And is that netted out of The pet acquisition cost of $2.36 or how should we think about that figure? Speaker 1200:43:20Yes, good question. As a reminder, we acquired Pet Expert and Small Paws in the second half of last year. So since then, when we Report our quarterly results in the key metrics. The total pet count and the subscription Business pet count. They do include those pet enrolled in Europe. Speaker 1200:43:46But as a reminder, they are currently Under a commission based insurance agent business model, we do not underwrite those Policies, it's underwritten by 3rd party policies. So their revenue are conditions. So that's why if you look at the report we provide every quarter since then, the per test metrics, Especially, those do not include the European PAS under Underwritten by 3rd party. So that's the reason when we do the reconciliation to calculate the Pet acquisition cost for every average single pet, the $2.36 per pet this quarter, So that has to be excluded, because it doesn't make sense. The revenue profile is totally different, our underwriting model. Speaker 1200:44:46I hope that's helpful. Speaker 500:44:49Thank you. Operator00:44:51The next question comes from Katy Sakas from Autonomous Research. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:44:57Hi. Thank you. It looks like quite Speaker 1300:45:00a bit more cash moved into the insurance subsidiaries this quarter. And 2 months ago at the shareholder meeting, it sounded like you guys felt that the subs were more than adequately capitalized. So I'm kind of curious why the move, Why the increase well above minimum RBC requirements? Speaker 1200:45:21Hey, Katie. This is Wait again or yes, I'm happy to answer this question and let Daryl Marvi chime in. So basically, we wanted to provide a little bit more clarity about our cash position. I wanted to reiterate What I mentioned before is that we're very happy about our cash position. I'm increasingly confident about The trajectory, the free cash flow has been improving $4,000,000 ish better than Q1 and we expect to be Continue to improve sequentially in the second half of the year and confident about the free cash flow being positive in Q4. Speaker 1200:46:06And we do provide a little bit more color on the cash position between the insurance company and the holding company, Just for being more transparent, and as you can see, we have $25,000,000 cash That's the outside of the insurance quantity and we also have $40,000,000 credit facility and plus we have $57,000,000 more than the required capital requirement at the insurance company. So that gave us over $120,000,000 that we believe is, we're appropriately capitalized, in the near future. Speaker 600:46:48Yes. And if I can add a little bit there as well. Hi, Casey. It's Maggie. In terms of why there is additional, you're right. Speaker 600:46:53We are over capitalized And we are actively working on addressing that to ensure that, that the good news is that we don't need to continue to put money in when we've already The level that we have, so historically we would have to continue to support that. Hopefully you can hear me. There are some blue angels flying over our heads right now, so I apologize Up in the background noise. But the our hope is over the next few months, we will work through our plans in terms So with that capital allocation, that explains so we can ensure that we are as efficient as possible. We're just happy that at this stage, we are absolutely well above the RBC level, which means that we're not continuing to have to put money in at the levels we were when we had that combined growth of both the Jupana and our other business segments growing at Much higher levels than before. Speaker 1300:47:40Okay. And then as a quick follow-up question, how much of your marketing Spence, in 2Q, would you characterize as cuttable? I know you guys talked about doing some Experimental things on the marketing side, how much of that could potentially be cut, if need be in the back half of the year to get margins where you'd like them to be? Speaker 1000:48:04Yes. Speaker 600:48:05So when we're thinking about marketing, so if we're talking about the core business specifically here, there have been some reductions already in Q2 that Really will take us to the point where we're looking at our core channels. We can continue to go further into our pack. We're always looking at the internal rates of return. And the key thing here is, As we alluded in the opening remarks, we're really trying to get granular and decentralized in Speaker 1200:48:27the way we're reporting on Speaker 600:48:28our internal rates of return to allow us to understand what do we need to be spending for a specific Area or geography or product versus what have we just historically got on the books. So for example, when we talk about costing expense, That would imply that we're not going to be there are things that we're doing that are not going to drive return at any point in time. So We've already reduced, with those things like contract spend, we've made sure that the teams are clear on the value being driven and driven from the activities they're producing. Yes, we could take that pack down probably somewhere between 25% to 30% further than we have done. It's important though for us if we've got margins where they need to So we're not looking at that blanket approach, we're looking at granular level approach. Speaker 600:49:11We can see there are lots of areas within our addressable market across North America that we can very healthily grow and that's lot of the growth that you've seen in the quarter has come from areas where we have strong margin, we are hitting our value proposition and we have Confidence in the internal rates of return to continue to grow there. We didn't act as quickly as we could have in the quarter. I think we spent a little bit of money in places where probably shouldn't and we didn't invest enough in areas where we could have. So I think what you'll see in Q3 is further refinement. That being said, 6% reduction in pack and 23% growth. Speaker 600:49:45Seeing that distribution strategy really kick in, it's taking hold from the perspective of what we said we would do. We would have more for growth in areas that we had not had before, so whether that's new products, new markets, that allows us to test new strategies and operate at a slightly lower level from a So we're not all putting everything into our core business. It can be through other products, other geographies to bring that pack sorry, to bring the IRR within its guardrail. So We have flexibility. We are fortunately able to leverage our distribution strategy, which is really doing exactly what we intended it to do. Speaker 600:50:19And we feel good about the direction that's moving through the year, especially as we see margin expansion. It gives us a lot more appetite for growth as we can see an end the margin compression that we've had for the volunteer. Speaker 900:50:31Yes. I'll just add one last thing. This is about smart disciplined growth and being Free cash flow positive in Q4. Those are our goals. That's what we're executing towards. Speaker 100:50:42Got it. Thank you. Operator00:50:45The next question comes from John Barnidge from Piper Sandler. Please go ahead. Speaker 900:50:53Thank you very much and good afternoon. My question and congrats on the approvals on the rate filings is With ARPU becoming a changing dynamic, how should we think about the significant 20% pricing An individual receiving it and then toggling with the deductible to keep their subscription payment unchanged. Is that increase in frequency at all? Speaker 600:51:18No, it's not actually. It's been consistent. It's something that we watch and we expected to see that come up Since we've been putting these rates through, we haven't seen that change. It's been consistent for the last 10 or so years. What is changing though As we've mentioned over the last few quarters, we are seeing a different mix of business as we where we're acquiring pets. Speaker 600:51:38And when we talk about mix, we're talking about geography, We're talking about age of pets, we're talking about breed, even species. So that's driving some of the shift in terms of the ARPU that we ultimately end up netting. But in terms of the rate increases and how we should think about the impact on the members, often what's happening is there is a There may be a phone call into the team, but the team, we speak to all our members that they are looking to cancel. They're able to really explain the value proposition. That experience hasn't changed either. Speaker 600:52:10So we're seeing strong retention and we're seeing, no increase in the number of people that are, What we would call buy down, which is something that we get deductible around. And ultimately, where we're trying to get to now is making sure that we're Proactively reaching out to members to help them understand what's happening in the vet industry so that they can understand why these prices are moving. And I think kind of the ARPU mix, like I mentioned, is really largely coming through. That makes the business. So as Daryl mentioned earlier in the call, we have Such a difference across North America with ARPU. Speaker 600:52:45You've got 2 areas in North America that have ARPU in excess of $74 That equates It's 40% of our new business. And then you've got 50% of our new business coming from areas where we have a $55 ARPU. So when you look at those 2 together, You really do have a blend. So it doesn't that blended artery doesn't tell the full story, which is really why we want to go to a next stage next Quarter to be able to break that down and give us far more granular approach to how we're thinking about growth and how ARPU is one component of that internal rate of return. So I think in terms of the pricing, the good thing is we have got a margin expansion, which is what we were looking for. Speaker 600:53:24And we'll continue See that come through, assuming our cost of goods, which will then show up in those numbers from the ARPU growth we're expecting by year end. Does that answer your question, John? Speaker 900:53:34Yes, it does. Thank you very much. And then you talked maybe about considering semiannual renewals at your Investor Day, is that still under consideration? Speaker 600:53:47Yes, absolutely. I think we're always open to adjusting to make sure we can give our members the best experience and that was That's what that's in regard to. So ensuring that there is a way for our members to accurately budget For the cost of care, now that budgeting often for the 97% of the population that's uninsured comes through really Leading into the credit card savings, friends, whatever they can do to afford the cost of care, those 3% that are insured and those that are insured with Trupanion, Up until recently, we have been able to budget because they've had a monthly payment that's pretty consistent year over year. This year is a little different. It's different for every insurance provider. Speaker 600:54:22It's different for the industry where We are seeing bigger increases and we feel it's more appropriate and fair to be able to slowly move into those increases rather than giving people a 20% plus increase. Adjustments to our product are always front of mind. We believe we have the best product in the industry, which is why our retention rate is the strongest that they are. Less coverage, lower retention. We have very, very high coverage and higher retention. Speaker 600:54:45And I think adjustments such as renewal dates and making Tweaks to that process through the period of renewal is important to us, so we'll continue looking at that. There is nothing Right now in market that we're doing towards that goal, but that would be something that we'll plan over next year. Speaker 900:55:05Great. Thank you very much. Speaker 600:55:07Thank you. Operator00:55:08Due to the time, this concludes our question and answer session. The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.Read morePowered by Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallTrupanion Q2 202300:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2x Earnings DocumentsSlide DeckPress Release(8-K)Quarterly report(10-Q) Trupanion Earnings HeadlinesTrupanion, Inc. 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There are 14 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good day, and welcome to the Trupanion Second Quarter 2023 Earnings Call. All participants will be in listen only mode. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Laura Bainbridge with Investor Relations. Operator00:00:24Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:25Good afternoon, and welcome to Trupanion's Q2 2023 Financial Results Conference Call. Participating on today's call are Daryl Rawlings, Chief Executive Officer Margie Tooth, President and Wei Li, Interim Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, I would like to remind everyone that during today's conference call, we will make certain forward looking statements regarding the future operations, Opportunities and financial performance of Trupanion within the meaning of the Safe Harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These statements involve a high degree of known and unknown risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those discussed. A detailed discussion of these and other risks and uncertainties are included in our earnings release, which can be found on our Investor Relations website as well as the company's most recent reports On Forms 10 ks and 8 ks filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission, today's presentation contains references to non GAAP financial measures That management uses to evaluate the company's performance, including without limitation, variable expenses, fixed expenses, adjusted operating income, Acquisition costs, internal rate of return, adjusted EBITDA and free cash flow. Speaker 100:01:38When we use the term adjusted operating income or margin, It is intended to refer to our non GAAP operating income or margin before new pet acquisition and development expense. Unless otherwise noted, Margins and expenses will be presented on a non GAAP basis, which excludes stock based compensation expense and depreciation expense. These non GAAP measures are in addition to and not a substitute for measures of financial performance prepared in accordance with the U. S. GAAP. Speaker 100:02:03Investors are encouraged to review these reconciliations of these non GAAP financial measures to the most directly comparable GAAP results, which can be found in today's press release or on Trupanion's Investor Relations website under the Quarterly Earnings tab. Lastly, I would like to remind everyone that today's conference call is also available via webcast on Trupanion's Investor Relations website. A replay will also be available on the site. With that, I'll hand the call over to Daryl. Speaker 200:02:29Thanks, Laura. 2 months ago, we hosted our Annual Shareholder Meeting. I'll touch on a few of the highlights today and encourage you to watch our annual meeting highlights video available on our Investor Relations website. Among the highlights shared were 3 key priorities. 1st, expansion of our adjusted operating margin 2nd, deploying capital efficiently and third, Returning to free cash flow positive by Q4 of 2023. Speaker 200:02:57In Q2, we saw early signs of progress in each of these areas. I'll elaborate on these now. Adjusted operating income was $16,800,000 in the quarter. After an extended period of margin compression, I'm encouraged to Margins not only stabilize, but sequentially expand. Assuming the rate of veterinary inflation remains consistent with our expectations As it did in Q2, we expect further margin expansion in the second half of the year as our pricing actions continue to take hold. Speaker 200:03:28In the quarter, we deployed 19,000,000 to acquire over 75,000 gross new pets. I'm thrilled with the team's ability to add 23% More pets year over year while deploying 6% less in acquisition spend. In my opinion, this is a strong result. On a per pet basis, the cost to acquire a pet was 24% lower than the prior year period. Managing acquisition spend in relation to pet lifetime value is a honed skill of the team and one we will continue to refine at extremely granular levels. Speaker 200:04:03I'll elaborate on this point momentarily. The combination of early margin expansion and efficiencies in our pet acquisition spend Help drive a $3,900,000 sequential improvement in free cash flow in the quarter. Additional actions taken in the quarter to reduce Spend are expected to further advance us towards our goal of achieving free cash flow positive in Q4. Overall, I'm encouraged by the progress the team has made over the past 4 months. This progress is evident in our results, which are once again more closely aligned with our expectations. Speaker 200:04:39We have more work to do, but the team is focused on executing diligently through a dynamic environment. Long term, our goal remains to grow adjusted operating income and deploy increasing amounts at high internal rates of return. As we manage through this near term period of margin compression, we're throttling back on spend And allocating capital to those markets and geographies in which we are more accurately priced to our value proposition. This decentralized approach delivered strong new pet growth in the quarter, while furthering our progress towards our margin expansion and free cash flow goals. We will maintain our granular approach as the business grows from one to many P and Ls, allocating capital to products, Channels and geographies that deliver the highest rates of return. Speaker 200:05:29Understanding and managing our spend in relation to how we believe these Can and will vary dramatically based on the individual characteristics of that pet. That's before introducing varying levels of coverage, Products like FERCAN and PHI Direct, our suite of offerings with Chewy and Aflac and new markets like Continental Europe. As our mix of business evolves, our goal is to report on the internal rate of return for our new mix of pets in a more granular way. Historically, our calculation was based on an average, assumed every new pet behaves similarly to our existing book of business. For example, it assumed pets regardless of product, channel and geography had the same ARPU and margin profile And with the equal retention to our existing book. Speaker 200:06:28Now for many years as a mostly single line business, this was an appropriate An appropriately conservative way to talk about it. With new products, channels and geographies becoming a more meaningful portion of new business, These assumptions have become less relevant. This is not a new concept for us. Recall, I discussed this in a greater detail in this year's shareholder letter. I further shared an example of Continental Europe where new pet ARPU is approximately $30 compared to that of our total book at approximately 64 If we were to use a simple consolidated average, as we previously reported, the estimated return on our spend to acquire these European pets Would be overstated. Speaker 200:07:14This too would be the case with our newer products, if we were to assume equal retention to our existing book. Our newer products with less coverage have retention similar to what we believe the industry average retention is of approximately 30 months Compared to Trupanion's over 70 months, as you've heard me say before, less coverage drives lower retention. With this in mind, moving forward, we intend to provide increasing levels of granularity into the returns of our various products, Margie will provide some more detail momentarily. Stepping back, I believe the changes we've made over the past several months are proving out and set us up well to deliver improved performance moving forward. We're starting to see signs of margin expansion. Speaker 200:08:06We are investing our capital prudently and we're making progress towards a goal of free cash flow positive in Q4. We're seeing good growth and scale in our new initiatives and through our international efforts, we're meaningfully expanding our addressable market. Most importantly, our decentralized management approach is taking hold with the team delivering stronger and more predictable results. With that, I'll hand it over to Margie to add additional context around our quarterly performance and execution of our 16 month plan. Margie? Speaker 300:08:38Thanks, Daryl. Good afternoon, everyone. I'm pleased to share the ongoing progress that has been made since our Annual Shareholder Meeting just 8 weeks ago. The team has remained disciplined in capital allocation, leaning into our most efficient channels during the quarter. This strategy enabled the delivery of yet another Quarter of deliberate and meaningful growth while preserving our balance sheet. Speaker 300:09:00We added over 75,000 Grow See Pets in the quarter. This is particularly strong growth when considering the intentional reduction of pet acquisition investment, which was down 6% year over year. In the quarter, we began adjusting and in places reducing our acquisition spend to ensure we are aligning our investment to areas with the strongest lifetime value in geographies where we're able to provide value to our members consistent with our brand and pricing promise. Our estimated internal rate of return was 25% in the quarter. As a reminder, we use IRR to predict the estimated future cash flows from our newly acquired pets. Speaker 300:09:38ARPU, retention and adjusted operating margin are key inputs into this calculation. In Q2, 2, our trailing 12 month margin was 10%, which is temporarily reduced given current inflationary pressures. As you'll soon hear, we've made progress on our pricing actions and are beginning to see early signs of margin expansion, a trend we expect to continue this year and into next. Moving forward, we will be contemplating an adjustment to our IRR calculation that we believe will more appropriately and conservatively reflect the New Pet ARPU, retention and margin contribution from each line of business and aligned to a more decentralized approach. Recall, we talked This more granular approach to capital allocation in our most recent shareholder letter and also at our shareholder meeting. Speaker 300:10:24We'll be providing this updated metric in our Q3 earnings release. Overall, we view the returns of our new book of business as strong in the current climate. And moving forward, We will continue to use a multi angle view when assessing our pet acquisition performance. For the quarter, we continue to benefit from our deepest moat, our vet centric approach. In today's inflationary backdrop, the conversation around Trupanion is resonating more clearly than ever before. Speaker 300:10:50Veterinary leads are up And we continue to see solid levels of conversion. As we continue to increase the penetration of this market, we look forward to the day that our veterinary partners are freed up Financial conversations and instead are able to practice the very best medicine that is studied and trained for. Ultimately, we look forward to ending economic euthanasia. With this in mind, throughout the quarter, we maintained our focus on retention, with the average Trupanion member staying with us an estimated 74 months. Given the increase in rate now flowing through consistently to our members, we are pleased with this level of retention. Speaker 300:11:25We believe it's a reflection of strong execution in today's environment. Now let me touch on our pricing efforts. In Q2, the pricing refinement and rate adjustments across North America continued with us securing additional rate in over 30 states. The average rate flowing through our book in Q2 was 16.3%. By the end of this month, we expect to have 20.8% pricing flowing through our book. Speaker 300:11:50Keep in mind, this rate will be immediately applied to new members and rolled through the book as policies renew. By the end of September, This should increase to 22.9% and by the end of October to 23.9%, a rate we currently expect to hold through year end. As an example, this means renewing policies in October will see a 23.9% average rate increase. This increase is relative to what these members are currently paying, which was set last October for these policies. As shared in more detail in our Annual Shareholder Meeting, We are constantly monitoring the overall costs across the industry to ensure operating assumptions remain true. Speaker 300:12:28We're pleased to report that in the second quarter, Growth in cost of care remain consistent with the Q1 and in line with our assumptions. Should this change, we will be poised to take additional action as needed in the coming months. As a result of the increased rate flow, we saw over 60 basis points of sequential improvement toward our value proposition target during the quarter. At all times, it's our goal to return to our target value proposition of 71%. So while we still have some work to do there, I am encouraged by the team's progress towards this critical target metric. Speaker 300:13:00We also saw a 60 basis point sequential improvement in our subscription adjusted Operating margin in the quarter. With cost of care currently increasing in line with our 15% year over year operating assumptions, We continue to see a path to our 15% adjusted operating margin target toward the end of next year. While Trupanion remains the primary engine behind our performance, We continue to see solid contribution from our newer products and channels collectively. With these products ramping in market, we're making solid efficiency gains. In Q2, Chewy expanded their comprehensive and proactive marketing campaign to introduce their insurance product line to their millions of pet parents. Speaker 300:13:38Following this activity, we've been pleased to see lead growth of this channel accelerate. In addition, we continue to see increasing contribution from our European endeavors. We added approximately 4,000 new pets during the quarter and very shortly will be launching in Poland, adding an additional 8,000 hospitals to our addressable market, which totals over 50,000. Demand in Continental Europe for a Trupanion like product, which is known for its broad coverage and vet centric approach, remains high. We're excited to bring our Trupanion product to a handful of countries in Continental Europe by year end. Speaker 300:14:11Product, channel and international market expansion are key tenants of our 60 After a period of upfront investment, many of our new initiatives are in market and beginning to contribute more meaningfully to our growth. In the quarter, approximately 13,000 of our gross Nippet adds or about 17% came from our new 60 month plan initiatives. Our appetite for sustainable growth in our underpenetrated market has not changed, and yet we will maintain discipline in our approach at all times with all products in all markets, Balancing our appetite to grow this marketplace with our desire to live within our guardrails. At times, this may mean throttling back or reducing spend and prioritizing the strength of our balance sheet. We believe this is the right thing to do. Speaker 300:14:55In the quarter, we took very deliberate actions to ensure we are operating as efficiently as possible across all areas of our business. The intention of this action was to reduce costs, many of which were centered around some of our long term test initiatives that derive limited, immediate or short term benefits. While many areas of the organization were able to improve efficiencies, these reductions were predominantly in fixed expenses and pet acquisition and not in areas directly responsible for supporting our members or partners. In further support of our efforts to enhance effective deployment of our capital, The team has made some very meaningful progress in the development of our long awaited next generation policy administration and claims adjudication platform. As we approach the final stages of our migration, we should see reduced capital expenditures next year. Speaker 300:15:41Subsequent to quarter end, we also launched our new Jupanium website Designed to be more interactive and easier for members and prospective members to learn about, enroll and engage with Trupanion. In totality, our combined actions across pricing deployment and proven ability to throttle back growth as needed further position us to deliver a solid second half performance related to our key priorities as well as on our goal to achieve positive free cash flow in the Q4 of this year. With that, I'll hand it over to Wei to talk you through our Q2 results And outlook for the remainder of the year. Speaker 400:16:13Thanks, Margie, and good afternoon, everyone. It's great to speak with you all on my first earnings call as Interim CFO. Today, I will share additional details around our Q2 performance as well as provide our outlook for the Q3 full year of 2023. Total revenue for the quarter was $270,600,000 up 23% year over year and ahead of our expectations. Within our subscription business, revenue was $173,300,000 in the quarter, up 19% year over year. Speaker 400:16:48Total subscription pets increased 23% year over year to over 943,000 pets as of June 30, 2023. Calculated on a trailing 12 month basis, our average monthly retention across all of our North America subscription products was 98.61% compared to 98.74% in the prior year period, equating to an average life of 72 months. Unless otherwise noted, the metrics I'm sharing today are presented on a consolidated basis and will be influenced by our mix of business, including new products, channels and eventually geographies, as Margie discussed. Our European Pads are currently underwritten by 3rd party underwriters and are therefore not included in our per pet metrics today. Monthly average revenue per pet for the quarter was $64.41 This quarter and moving forward, we will also break out new pet ARPU. Speaker 400:17:48Average new pet ARPU for our subscription book of business in North America was $61.49 in the quarter. Breaking down our year over year subscription revenue growth of 19% for the quarter, Pet growth contributed 19%. Pricing increases added 10%, while mix reduced it by 9%. Lastly, foreign exchange reduced revenue growth by 1%. Subscription business cost of paying veterinary invoices were 100 and $33,400,000 in the quarter, resulting in a loss ratio of 77%, a 60 basis point Sequential improvement over the last quarter. Speaker 400:18:30As a percentage of subscription revenue, variable expenses were 9.7% in the quarter, Down from 9.9% in the prior year period and down from 10.1% in the prior quarter, reflecting some cost efficiencies. Fixed expenses as a percentage of revenue were 5.1% in the quarter, up from 4.3% in the prior year period and 4.7% in the prior quarter. Fixed expenses include costs related to our new subscription products in North America and Europe. Within fixed expenses for the quarter were approximately $700,000 of onetime expenses. Absent these costs, Fixed expenses as a percentage of revenue would have been largely flat quarter over quarter. Speaker 400:19:18After the cost of paying veterinary invoices, Variable expenses and fixed expenses. We calculate our adjusted operating income. Our subscription business delivered adjusted operating income A $14,100,000 or 8.2 percent of subscription revenue, this is up from 7.6% in the prior quarter or approximately 60 basis points of sequential margin expansion. Now I'll turn to our other business segment, which is comprised of revenue from other Products and services that generally have a B2B component and a different margin profile than our subscription business. Our other business revenue was $97,300,000 for the quarter, an increase of 32% year over year. Speaker 400:20:03Adjusted operating income for this segment was $2,600,000 in the quarter. In total, adjusted operating income was 16,800,000 in Q2. This was down 19% from the prior year period, but up 8% sequentially. During the quarter, we deployed 19,000,000 to acquire over 75,000 new subscription pets. Excluding the 4,000 European pets, This translated into a pet acquisition cost of $2.36 per pet in the quarter. Speaker 400:20:35We also invested $900,000 in In development cost, as a percentage of revenue, development expense was 34 basis points compared to 92 basis points in the prior year period. This step down reflects the shift of some of our new initiatives out of development and into variable, fixed and new pet acquisition expenses Within our subscription business, adjusted EBITDA was a loss of $3,200,000 for the quarter as Compared to a loss of $1,700,000 in the prior year period, depreciation and amortization was $3,300,000 during the quarter. Stock based compensation expense was $6,500,000 during the quarter. We continue to expect stock based compensation to be around $7,000,000 per quarter for the remainder of the year. As a result, net loss was $13,700,000 or a loss of $0.33 per basic and diluted share, the same as the prior year period. Speaker 400:21:33In terms of cash flow, operating cash flow was negative $3,400,000 in the quarter Compared to negative $3,100,000 in the prior year period, capital expenditures totaled $4,700,000 in the quarter. As a result, free cash flow was negative $8,100,000 a $3,900,000 improvement from the Q1. We expect cost actions implemented in the 2nd quarter along with margin expansion to further improve our free cash flow in the second half of the year. We ended the quarter with $236,100,000 in cash and short term investments. We maintained $213,100,000 of capital surplus At our insurance subsidiaries, which was $57,300,000 more than estimated risk based capital requirement of $155,800,000 Outside of these insurance entities, we held $25,400,000 in cash and short term investments at the end of the quarter, with an additional $40,000,000 available under our credit facility. Speaker 400:22:33I will now turn to our outlook. For the full year of 2023, we're increasing our guidance at the midpoint for both revenue and adjusted operating income. Revenue is now expected to be in the range of $1,073,000,000 to $1,089,000,000 representing 19% growth at the midpoint. Subscription revenue is now expected to be in the range of $708,000,000 to $718,000,000 which would represent 20% year over year growth at the midpoint. Total adjusted operating income is now expected to be in the range of $70,000,000 to $80,000,000 At the midpoint of the range, This continues to imply expansion in adjusted operating margin in the second half of the year as our pricing actions flow more meaningfully through our book of business. Speaker 400:23:24For the Q3 of 2023, total revenue is expected to be in the range of $270,000,000 to 275,000,000 Subscription revenue is expected to be in the range of $180,000,000 to $182,000,000 Total Adjusted operating income is expected to be in the range of $18,000,000 to $21,000,000 As a reminder, Our revenue projections are subject to conversion rate fluctuations, predominantly between the U. S. And Canadian currencies. For the Q3 and full year 2023 guidance, we used a 75% conversion rate in our projections, which was the approximate rate at the end of June. Thank you for your time today. Speaker 400:24:07I will now hand the call back over to Daryl. Speaker 200:24:11Thanks, Wei. Before we open it up for questions, I wanted to remind you of our Annual Shareholder Meeting highlight reel available on our IR website. In addition, we'll be in attendance at several upcoming investor events. Margie will be attending the Canaccord Genuity Annual Growth Conference in Boston next week. And next month, we will be in attendance at Lake Street's Big 7 Conference in New York and the Jefferies Virtual Pet and Wellness Conference. Speaker 200:24:36We hope to speak to many of you there. We'll now open it up for questions. Operator00:24:42We will now begin the question and answer session. My first question comes from Maria Ripps from Canaccord. Please go ahead. Speaker 500:25:08Great. Thanks so much for taking my questions. 1st, can you maybe update us on your more recent progress in California with rate increases up to you sort of received the approval there? What's the latest timeline around refiling? And is there anything different that you're doing in terms of how you approach the filing process This time, either in terms of the data that you're presenting to the regulators or anything else? Speaker 500:25:32And then I have a quick follow-up. Speaker 600:25:34Hi, Maria. It's Margie. So yes, so overall, we are pleased with the progress in California. During the quarter, we did get our second approval within So we've had 2 in the last 8 months with stacked rate approval that's going to approximately 21%. In terms of the 13% rate that was That was based on data in November 2022. Speaker 600:25:57So specifically to answer your question about a different approach, What we're doing now, once we have that second approval through Enlivant market, which will be effective from next week, we'll then start working with them again on the next Filing, which will really kind of go into the specifics related to the data that we saw coming through in Q1 and Q2 of 2023. So The last 6 months effectively we'll be able to bake into this new filing, and we'll work with them to dig into the trends we're seeing specific to California I'll help to better articulate the need for the rate that we have there in the state. But overall, I think it's a big step forward in fixing our loss ratio. We now can increase our addressable market in the state of California where we have more neighborhoods which we can reignite growth in. And we'll continue to dig into our approach on lifetime price California to speak at additional rate in the near future, but it's a collaborative relationship and looking forward to that next step. Speaker 500:26:51Got it. That's very helpful. And then, you mentioned 15% adjusted OI target towards the end of next year. So assuming inflation sort of remains consistent with your expectations, is this predicated on another round of From a handful of larger states or do you feel like you have enough approvals under your belt? Speaker 600:27:11Right. So we have by the end of the year, essentially what that means is we will have Stage approvals to hold that rate at the end of the year. So we're not going to continue to go above that rate and I. E. Going in for more approval to expand it. Speaker 600:27:24What we are doing though is winter next year, which will allow us to catch up on the 15. So if we're getting a higher rate than 15, you start to see that margin expansion. This month just gone, we had 16.3% rate flowing through our book, which is why you saw that margin expansion. As you mentioned, if that assumption holds true and we don't see a change in the 15, we believe that we will have sufficient rate and plans in place to get us on track by the end of next year. We will keep monitoring it. Speaker 600:27:50If things change, then we will adjust our approach, but we feel confident right now that we have the right plan in place to get there. Speaker 500:27:57Got it. That's very helpful. Thank you so much, Margit. Speaker 100:28:01Thank you. Operator00:28:03The next Question comes from Shweta Gajuria from Evercore ISI. Please go ahead. Speaker 700:28:11So if the California rate filing, if it does not get approved, what the alternative is at that point And then or and or the impact on the overall book of business? And then I have a follow-up, please. Speaker 600:28:27Yes. Hi, Shota. A little bit further into California than we have been. So we very deliberately pulled back our spend. We're looking at where we have strong margin. Speaker 600:28:36And in areas where we didn't have strong margin and we weren't hitting our target value proposition, I. E, we were giving greater than our target value proposition, we really thought to pull back that growth. So we've been To dig in further into California and get a little bit of that growth moving in other areas, if we do see an extended delay on the next We'll continue to monitor where we are effective and where we have the strong margin. And we will adjust our operating approach terms of growth, strong part of our business, it's not the biggest part of our business, and that's very deliberate as we thought about distribution moving forward for the long term. So we will calibrate, we'll keep checking the data, making sure that we have the right value proposition, and we'll adjust as necessary. Speaker 600:29:15But Right now, as I mentioned, we feel very positive about the relationship with the regulator, and we're encouraged by the dollar, and we'll continue to work with them to do what's right for our members. Speaker 700:29:25That you pulled back on some of the initiatives that were maybe for the mid- to long term or you weren't seeing the returns as expected as part of your cost savings For cost cutting, could you talk about which one specifically those were? Speaker 600:29:40Yes, 3 across the board. So there are some things that we do that ultimately will help us Unlock a few tests. So whenever we look at deploying capital, we try and learn new ways of doing things, new avenues, new tests, new tactics, As well as, I would say for some channels, we're building things out for the future. So they're related to whether it's a bet, whether it's breeders, social media, there are things that we're as much as we can within the existing team set that we have today and ensuring that the things we're doing deliver a return today rather than A tactic that is a test that's not necessarily proven or maybe isn't driving the results we wanted. We've been a little bit more stringent in the quarter around that and So we can be very deliberate with the deployment of capital. Speaker 600:30:23It doesn't harm our core channels. We've stayed very true The vet channel was holding very strong in the quarter, which is testament to the impact of the product that we have. And it just allows us really to focus and double down on Speaker 800:30:41We've gotten enough approvals or the states did not require A approval such that you feel very comfortable going forward in? Speaker 900:30:51Hi, Josh. This is Darryl. It's a very good question. When we look at our total new pets that have come in, We're really breaking the business down into multiple P and Ls. Kind of our historic subscription business, if you took North America, we break it into about 3 different Market. Speaker 900:31:142 of those markets, the average new ARPU is about $74, dollars 75 And the other two markets, the average ARPU is about $56 Speaker 1000:31:25So you could Speaker 900:31:25see that there's a dramatic difference. The area where we have the lower ARPU, about $56 is priced adequately to our value proposition today. It is actually the areas with the higher ARPU that we have had more margin compression over the last 6 to 9 months. In addition to that, when you look at the new products that we have, which represented about 17% of our total new pets in the quarter, Most of those are pretty adequate and that's where, Margie and the team have slowed the growth there. And as we've had the approvals like we've been In the opening remarks, we've had 30 state approvals in the last quarter. Speaker 900:32:10Now we're able to put our foot back more on the gas because we're adequately priced. So It's something you always have to monitor, but you need to monitor in a very granular way across products, distribution channels, not just by the state, but down to a neighborhood level. And for the team to be able to take your average pet acquisition cost of $309 and lower it down to $2.30 in a single year, think it's a testament to the team and pointing those the spend in the right direction. I feel really good about the progress. Speaker 800:32:40Thank you for that answer. And I don't need specific numbers. I don't think you'd give them to me anyways. But when I look at the retention dipping a little bit, obviously, it should be As you raise prices, is the movement coming in the 1st years? Is it coming in those receiving 20% Or greater rate increases or is it in the majority of the book? Speaker 800:33:00I guess that 80% of the book that's neither 1st year nor getting a 20% rate increase. Speaker 900:33:08Well, it's interesting because that slight dip in retention, which as a reminder, it's still well over 70 months and Over double what we think the industry average. That includes our new initiatives. So it includes the new products that have lower coverage, New distribution channel, if you pulled those ones out, I think the retention rate would be very similar to what our average has been in the last couple of years. It remains very strong. It's pretty consistent in our 3 buckets that we talk about in our shareholder letters between 1st year average rate increases than those that have higher. Speaker 900:33:41So Nothing dramatic change here. Margie, do you have anything to add there? Speaker 600:33:48I mean, I think you're right. What we did see, we saw a very strong start to Q2 As we get more and more rate flowing through the book of business, it is our expectation. We see a little bit of a softness coming through. We saw a little bit of that at the end of the quarter, but generally, we feel like the retention has been very I think the team has done a very good job in terms of execution, making sure that value proposition is well understood. And they have a very robust Plan in place for the remainder of the year acknowledging that that rate increase will continue to tick up through the rest of 2023 and into 2024. Speaker 600:34:17So far, we feel confident in the way that they are managing that process, and we'll keep monitoring it in those buckets, as Daryl alluded, and there's a little more granular Detail behind the scene and the retention metrics that Wei shared in terms of the 72 months for the overall book of business, What you have in there is a real mixture, as Daryl mentioned, of products, the channels. We see a very different retention That we mentioned earlier, you're going to see a difference in that retention profile too. But so far so good and we feel like it's in a good place. Speaker 800:34:58Thank you very much for the answers. Operator00:35:02The next question comes from Jon Block from Stifel. Please go ahead. Speaker 1000:35:08Great. Thanks, guys. Good afternoon. First question, can you just talk about the path back for the subscriber MLR, I think it came down 60 bps Q over Q, which was good to see, but it's still pretty darn elevated at 77%. You got some of that stuff in California and New York. Speaker 1000:35:26How should we think about that trend line, call it, into the back half of 2H 'twenty three, sorry, the back part of 'twenty three and even into 'twenty four, do you want to give a little bit more Specific to when you think you'd get back to that 71% target? Speaker 600:35:42Yes, sure. So when we think about the We're happy to see that margin expansion. I think it's back to a little bit more of that predictability that we have known and loved over the last 20 plus years. I think in terms of the rate that we have flowing through at this 16% by the end of Q2, we've got that continuing to increase through this year. So you can expect with That rate, that margin starts to expand even further and brings us closer to our value proposition, as you say. Speaker 600:36:09Still confident with that in mind that we You need to see the 15% increase of inflation across the book of business. If that continues, then by the end of next year, we expect to be back towards target. If it changes, then obviously that will also change and we'll adjust accordingly, but we feel confident with the plans we have in place and the rates we have flowing through, Combined with our attention that we will see that happen in the back end of 2024. Speaker 1000:36:34Okay. Maybe just to ask it differently, is there a certain Trend line that you need into the back part of this year, Margie, in order to hit your free cash flow positive target? Speaker 600:36:46Yes. So for free cash flow positive, we as Wei mentioned, we've seen some good improvement Sequentially, quarter over quarter, so I think $3,900,000 benefit in terms of where we are right now in terms of our cash. I think in The expectation for quarter end year end, sorry, we still fully expect with the rate we have flowing that we're making good progress in Q3 and then 4 is still very much on track in terms of our goal. Speaker 1000:37:13Okay. Thanks for that. And maybe the second question might have a couple of parts. But First, just from an employee perspective, I thought we mentioned some one time expenses. I don't know if it was $700,000 or $900,000 Was that severance? Speaker 1000:37:26And I guess if it was or if it wasn't, Daryl, can you talk about the employee count at Trupanion if that's being curtailed? And if so, Where the company is making some of those changes and then sort of the follow-up on a different topic is just more of a clarification. I think, Daryl, you said, Hey, retention is getting hit a little bit from some of those lower end plans. If you normalize for that, retention would be largely unchanged. But just to be clear, Your pack is also benefiting from that, right? Speaker 1000:37:54You're saying how you've done a great job on pack, but those lower end plans, I believe, have a lower pet acquisition cost. I just want to make sure That would be showing up in both places, right? It'd be hitting your retention, but benefiting your pack arguably. Thanks, guys. Speaker 900:38:11Yes. Margie can answer probably sorry, we got an echo there. The question on Sorry, that was me on my end, sorry. There was about 3% Reduction in headcount across the company during Q2. There was some severance expense. Speaker 900:38:36Margie alluded to that in her opening remarks. And the second part of it is, yes, just as a reminder, Our pet cost was reduced by 6% and yet we had 23% more pets We enrolled during the quarter, but all pets are not created equally. So some of these pets have low ARPU and lower retention, other ones have higher ARPU and higher retention. So it's very important that we look at it in a decentralized way and spend the corresponding amount. When you see the pet acquisition cost drop as dramatically as you did from 309 2:30, it's an evidence that we're doing that. Operator00:39:16The next question comes from Wilma Burdes from Raymond James. Please go ahead. Speaker 1100:39:21Hey, good evening. Maybe you could give us a little bit of color on the Time period for the other business to roll off. I know it has a little bit shorter retention period than the Porsche repaying in business. Is it From what I'm looking at, it seems like maybe starting in 2024 that would roll off over a period of 3 to 5 years. Maybe just Yes, that makes some sense. Speaker 1200:39:49Hey, this is Wei. So I can answer this question. So basically, in the prepared remarks, I The new guidance of the Q4 Q3 and the full year guidance for total revenue and subscription revenue, that implies also the Q3 and Q4 for other business. We have been seeing the growth has been decelerating, but still The pace of rolling off of our book has been slower than we had expected. So we're still expecting a growth from versus last year in the second half of this year. Speaker 1200:40:31And looking at to 2024, There's a lot of uncertainty, but we believe will start to decline, but our model right now is single digits of revenue We have a decline for other business. And as a reminder, the other business margin is usually between 2% 3%. We do think given the new arrangement with PetSmart, it will be about 3% going forward, But it's still much smaller than our subscription business. The revenue projection, I would say, Wouldn't impact too much of our bottom line performance. And I would say in terms of out years after 2024, I would say, it's going to be a pretty long tail based on our experience before. Speaker 1200:41:26And also as a reminder, If they were off quicker than we expected, it will be more capital effective to our capital position. Speaker 1100:41:41Thank you. So I guess maybe the Single digit revenue declines would kind of continue for 2025 and beyond. Is that How I should interpret what you said? Speaker 1200:41:55That's for the 2024. I'll be honest, we haven't Really started the 2025 for this other business. I do not have too much clarity on that. But I would say it's going to be a fairly slow decline over the next 3 to 5 years. Speaker 600:42:17Yes. And if I can just add as well, Will, hi, it's Maggie. Just to echo as what you were saying, we're expecting to be single Great. We want to be good partners. I want to make sure that from the another business perspective that we're able to support the businesses that are partners and came to us For them anyway in the 1st place. Speaker 600:42:34So, the roll off obviously is dependent on their plans and we'll be here to support them. But the main thing for us is ensuring that we have sufficient Benefit from that partnership in terms of the margin, which is why Elite is certainly increased. So we look forward to seeing that be part of our business for a little longer than we It has upside for everybody and we'll continue to share changes as and when they happen. Speaker 1100:42:58Okay. And then one quick one. We noticed that you broke out a new line item over the last few quarters, pet acquisition For commission based policies, it was about $900,000,000 this quarter. Speaker 100:43:10Could you just give a Speaker 1100:43:11little bit of clarity on what that is? And is that netted out of The pet acquisition cost of $2.36 or how should we think about that figure? Speaker 1200:43:20Yes, good question. As a reminder, we acquired Pet Expert and Small Paws in the second half of last year. So since then, when we Report our quarterly results in the key metrics. The total pet count and the subscription Business pet count. They do include those pet enrolled in Europe. Speaker 1200:43:46But as a reminder, they are currently Under a commission based insurance agent business model, we do not underwrite those Policies, it's underwritten by 3rd party policies. So their revenue are conditions. So that's why if you look at the report we provide every quarter since then, the per test metrics, Especially, those do not include the European PAS under Underwritten by 3rd party. So that's the reason when we do the reconciliation to calculate the Pet acquisition cost for every average single pet, the $2.36 per pet this quarter, So that has to be excluded, because it doesn't make sense. The revenue profile is totally different, our underwriting model. Speaker 1200:44:46I hope that's helpful. Speaker 500:44:49Thank you. Operator00:44:51The next question comes from Katy Sakas from Autonomous Research. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:44:57Hi. Thank you. It looks like quite Speaker 1300:45:00a bit more cash moved into the insurance subsidiaries this quarter. And 2 months ago at the shareholder meeting, it sounded like you guys felt that the subs were more than adequately capitalized. So I'm kind of curious why the move, Why the increase well above minimum RBC requirements? Speaker 1200:45:21Hey, Katie. This is Wait again or yes, I'm happy to answer this question and let Daryl Marvi chime in. So basically, we wanted to provide a little bit more clarity about our cash position. I wanted to reiterate What I mentioned before is that we're very happy about our cash position. I'm increasingly confident about The trajectory, the free cash flow has been improving $4,000,000 ish better than Q1 and we expect to be Continue to improve sequentially in the second half of the year and confident about the free cash flow being positive in Q4. Speaker 1200:46:06And we do provide a little bit more color on the cash position between the insurance company and the holding company, Just for being more transparent, and as you can see, we have $25,000,000 cash That's the outside of the insurance quantity and we also have $40,000,000 credit facility and plus we have $57,000,000 more than the required capital requirement at the insurance company. So that gave us over $120,000,000 that we believe is, we're appropriately capitalized, in the near future. Speaker 600:46:48Yes. And if I can add a little bit there as well. Hi, Casey. It's Maggie. In terms of why there is additional, you're right. Speaker 600:46:53We are over capitalized And we are actively working on addressing that to ensure that, that the good news is that we don't need to continue to put money in when we've already The level that we have, so historically we would have to continue to support that. Hopefully you can hear me. There are some blue angels flying over our heads right now, so I apologize Up in the background noise. But the our hope is over the next few months, we will work through our plans in terms So with that capital allocation, that explains so we can ensure that we are as efficient as possible. We're just happy that at this stage, we are absolutely well above the RBC level, which means that we're not continuing to have to put money in at the levels we were when we had that combined growth of both the Jupana and our other business segments growing at Much higher levels than before. Speaker 1300:47:40Okay. And then as a quick follow-up question, how much of your marketing Spence, in 2Q, would you characterize as cuttable? I know you guys talked about doing some Experimental things on the marketing side, how much of that could potentially be cut, if need be in the back half of the year to get margins where you'd like them to be? Speaker 1000:48:04Yes. Speaker 600:48:05So when we're thinking about marketing, so if we're talking about the core business specifically here, there have been some reductions already in Q2 that Really will take us to the point where we're looking at our core channels. We can continue to go further into our pack. We're always looking at the internal rates of return. And the key thing here is, As we alluded in the opening remarks, we're really trying to get granular and decentralized in Speaker 1200:48:27the way we're reporting on Speaker 600:48:28our internal rates of return to allow us to understand what do we need to be spending for a specific Area or geography or product versus what have we just historically got on the books. So for example, when we talk about costing expense, That would imply that we're not going to be there are things that we're doing that are not going to drive return at any point in time. So We've already reduced, with those things like contract spend, we've made sure that the teams are clear on the value being driven and driven from the activities they're producing. Yes, we could take that pack down probably somewhere between 25% to 30% further than we have done. It's important though for us if we've got margins where they need to So we're not looking at that blanket approach, we're looking at granular level approach. Speaker 600:49:11We can see there are lots of areas within our addressable market across North America that we can very healthily grow and that's lot of the growth that you've seen in the quarter has come from areas where we have strong margin, we are hitting our value proposition and we have Confidence in the internal rates of return to continue to grow there. We didn't act as quickly as we could have in the quarter. I think we spent a little bit of money in places where probably shouldn't and we didn't invest enough in areas where we could have. So I think what you'll see in Q3 is further refinement. That being said, 6% reduction in pack and 23% growth. Speaker 600:49:45Seeing that distribution strategy really kick in, it's taking hold from the perspective of what we said we would do. We would have more for growth in areas that we had not had before, so whether that's new products, new markets, that allows us to test new strategies and operate at a slightly lower level from a So we're not all putting everything into our core business. It can be through other products, other geographies to bring that pack sorry, to bring the IRR within its guardrail. So We have flexibility. We are fortunately able to leverage our distribution strategy, which is really doing exactly what we intended it to do. Speaker 600:50:19And we feel good about the direction that's moving through the year, especially as we see margin expansion. It gives us a lot more appetite for growth as we can see an end the margin compression that we've had for the volunteer. Speaker 900:50:31Yes. I'll just add one last thing. This is about smart disciplined growth and being Free cash flow positive in Q4. Those are our goals. That's what we're executing towards. Speaker 100:50:42Got it. Thank you. Operator00:50:45The next question comes from John Barnidge from Piper Sandler. Please go ahead. Speaker 900:50:53Thank you very much and good afternoon. My question and congrats on the approvals on the rate filings is With ARPU becoming a changing dynamic, how should we think about the significant 20% pricing An individual receiving it and then toggling with the deductible to keep their subscription payment unchanged. Is that increase in frequency at all? Speaker 600:51:18No, it's not actually. It's been consistent. It's something that we watch and we expected to see that come up Since we've been putting these rates through, we haven't seen that change. It's been consistent for the last 10 or so years. What is changing though As we've mentioned over the last few quarters, we are seeing a different mix of business as we where we're acquiring pets. Speaker 600:51:38And when we talk about mix, we're talking about geography, We're talking about age of pets, we're talking about breed, even species. So that's driving some of the shift in terms of the ARPU that we ultimately end up netting. But in terms of the rate increases and how we should think about the impact on the members, often what's happening is there is a There may be a phone call into the team, but the team, we speak to all our members that they are looking to cancel. They're able to really explain the value proposition. That experience hasn't changed either. Speaker 600:52:10So we're seeing strong retention and we're seeing, no increase in the number of people that are, What we would call buy down, which is something that we get deductible around. And ultimately, where we're trying to get to now is making sure that we're Proactively reaching out to members to help them understand what's happening in the vet industry so that they can understand why these prices are moving. And I think kind of the ARPU mix, like I mentioned, is really largely coming through. That makes the business. So as Daryl mentioned earlier in the call, we have Such a difference across North America with ARPU. Speaker 600:52:45You've got 2 areas in North America that have ARPU in excess of $74 That equates It's 40% of our new business. And then you've got 50% of our new business coming from areas where we have a $55 ARPU. So when you look at those 2 together, You really do have a blend. So it doesn't that blended artery doesn't tell the full story, which is really why we want to go to a next stage next Quarter to be able to break that down and give us far more granular approach to how we're thinking about growth and how ARPU is one component of that internal rate of return. So I think in terms of the pricing, the good thing is we have got a margin expansion, which is what we were looking for. Speaker 600:53:24And we'll continue See that come through, assuming our cost of goods, which will then show up in those numbers from the ARPU growth we're expecting by year end. Does that answer your question, John? Speaker 900:53:34Yes, it does. Thank you very much. And then you talked maybe about considering semiannual renewals at your Investor Day, is that still under consideration? Speaker 600:53:47Yes, absolutely. I think we're always open to adjusting to make sure we can give our members the best experience and that was That's what that's in regard to. So ensuring that there is a way for our members to accurately budget For the cost of care, now that budgeting often for the 97% of the population that's uninsured comes through really Leading into the credit card savings, friends, whatever they can do to afford the cost of care, those 3% that are insured and those that are insured with Trupanion, Up until recently, we have been able to budget because they've had a monthly payment that's pretty consistent year over year. This year is a little different. It's different for every insurance provider. Speaker 600:54:22It's different for the industry where We are seeing bigger increases and we feel it's more appropriate and fair to be able to slowly move into those increases rather than giving people a 20% plus increase. Adjustments to our product are always front of mind. We believe we have the best product in the industry, which is why our retention rate is the strongest that they are. Less coverage, lower retention. We have very, very high coverage and higher retention. Speaker 600:54:45And I think adjustments such as renewal dates and making Tweaks to that process through the period of renewal is important to us, so we'll continue looking at that. There is nothing Right now in market that we're doing towards that goal, but that would be something that we'll plan over next year. Speaker 900:55:05Great. Thank you very much. Speaker 600:55:07Thank you. Operator00:55:08Due to the time, this concludes our question and answer session. The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.Read morePowered by