NASDAQ:CAPR Capricor Therapeutics Q2 2023 Earnings Report $12.66 -0.62 (-4.63%) As of 01:18 PM Eastern This is a fair market value price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. Earnings HistoryForecast Capricor Therapeutics EPS ResultsActual EPS-$0.29Consensus EPS -$0.34Beat/MissBeat by +$0.05One Year Ago EPSN/ACapricor Therapeutics Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$3.92 millionExpected RevenueN/ABeat/MissN/AYoY Revenue GrowthN/ACapricor Therapeutics Announcement DetailsQuarterQ2 2023Date8/7/2023TimeN/AConference Call DateMonday, August 7, 2023Conference Call Time4:30PM ETUpcoming EarningsCapricor Therapeutics' Q1 2025 earnings is scheduled for Monday, May 12, 2025, with a conference call scheduled at 4:30 PM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Q1 2025 Earnings ReportConference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfilePowered by Capricor Therapeutics Q2 2023 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrAugust 7, 2023 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 5 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Afternoon, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Capricor Therapeutics Second Quarter 2023 Financial Results and Corporate Update Call. At this time, all lines are in a listen only mode. Following the presentation, we will conduct a question and answer session. As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to our host, Mr. Operator00:00:30A. J. Bergman, Capricor's Chief Financial Officer. Speaker 100:00:36Thank you, and good afternoon, everyone. Before we start, I would like to state that we will be making certain forward looking statements during today's presentation. These statements may include statements regarding, among other things, the efficacy, safety and intended utilization of our product candidates Our future research and development plans, including our anticipated conduct and timing of preclinical and clinical studies, plans to present or report additional data, Our plans regarding regulatory filings, potential regulatory developments regarding our product candidates, manufacturing capabilities, potential milestone payments and other possible uses of existing cash and investment resources. These forward looking statements are based on current information, assumptions and expectations that are subject to change and involve a number of risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially from those contained in the forward looking statements. These and other risks are described in our periodic filings made with the SEC, including our quarterly and annual reports. Speaker 100:01:29You are cautioned not to place undue reliance on these forward looking statements, and we disclaim any obligation to update such statements. With that, I'll turn the call over to Linda Marban, CEO. Speaker 200:01:40Thank you, A. J. Good afternoon and thank you for joining our Q2 2023 conference call. Today, I would like to begin by reiterating our deep commitment to optimizing patient focused medicine and in the first half of twenty twenty three, we continued to make steady progress across our pipeline and are well positioned to deliver on important clinical and regulatory milestones for our Duchenne muscular dystrophy program as well as continue to advance our exosome platform technology. I am extremely pleased with the recent additions of 2 new members to our Board of Directors With the addition of doctors Philip Gotwalt and Paul Atwater, Doctor. Speaker 200:02:21Gotwalt most recently served as the Global Head Vice President of Business Development and Licensing at Novartis Institutes For Biomedical Research and has nearly 30 years of experience in drug development, research, corporate strategy and business development. Doctor. Airwater brings over 30 years of internal medicine and infectious disease experience As the Sherilyn and Ken Fisher Professor of Medicine at the Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine, serving as the Clinical Director for the Division of Infectious Diseases and the Director of the Cherilyn and Ken Fisher Center For Environmental Infectious Diseases. Both Doctor. Gottwald and Airwater's deep industry experience will be invaluable as we continue to enhance our strategic and business development priorities across both of our programs. Speaker 200:03:17Our late stage clinical development program for CAP-one thousand and two and patients DMD continues to advance through development and key priorities include enrollment of our Phase III O3 clinical trial, which I will give more details on in the next few minutes, as well as continuing discussions with the FDA regarding the proposed path towards submissions of a Biologics license application. Building on this momentum, we believe we are well positioned to execute our corporate executives through our objectives throughout the remainder of the year. I will now dive into our programs and provide an update on recent activity. Let me provide you an update on our recent FDA interactions. Earlier this year, as part of our RMAT designation, We held a Type B CMC or Chemistry, Manufacturing and Controls related meeting with FDA where we outlined our plans for production of commercial scale GMP CAP-ten-two. Speaker 200:04:20The outcome of this meeting was positive and that FTA clearly outlined for us the deliverables necessary for the CMC portion of our BLA. As we previously have reported, there also was a discussion concerning the possible inclusion of additional patients We would need to be treated with product from our San Diego GMP facility in order to support commercial product manufacturing at this site. As this request would have likely extended the timeline for the completion of our pivotal trial and therefore the time to BLA, We requested a subsequent Type B clinical meeting with FDA to determine if there was a more efficient and expeditious path to BLA due to the great unmet medical need of this patient population. The advocacy community believes As we do, the CAP-one thousand and two attenuates disease progression and they have continued to raise awareness of our program within the FDA And specifically CBER and as the FDA continues to highlight the importance of patient perspective, they have continued to pay close attention to our program. To that end, the FDA granted our request to discuss our program in more detail And this meeting occurred in July of this year. Speaker 200:05:42The goal was to further outline a plan for an expedited path to BLA for CAP-one thousand and two for for the treatment of later stage DMT. And I'm happy to share that FDA seem generally supportive of this plan. Currently, we are awaiting the final minutes from FDA, which we expect this month. We have already had another informal meeting with FDA to further design certain aspects of our program and we are greatly appreciative of the FDA's guidance to optimize the HOPE-three clinical trial design to support our path to potential approval. Next, I will provide an update on HOPE-three, our Phase 3 clinical trial. Speaker 200:06:24I am very pleased to inform you that as of today, We have randomized 48 subjects across 17 active sites. And based on the currently designed sample size of 68 patients, We are on track to be fully enrolled early in Q4 of this year. Furthermore, we remain on track to conduct an interim analysis on HOPE-three in the Q4 of this year, which will primarily focus on a futility analysis. I am very enthusiastic about the rate of enrollments, which has been strong throughout the summer and propelled by the positive feedback from patients and families, including the anecdotal reports of disease attenuation. Additionally, we are extremely pleased by the safety profile of CAP-one thousand and two and the overall support of our investigators and family. Speaker 200:07:15Now for an update on our most recent HOPE-two open label extension or OLE results presented at this year's Parent Project for Muscular Dystrophy Annual Conference. To remind you, we presented positive statistically significant 2 year follow-up results from the study. As you may recall, the HOPE-two OLE study previously met its primary endpoint at the 1 year time point on the poll version 2.0 scale. At the 24 month time point, The data continued to show statistically significant differences in the pull performance of the upper limb version 2.0 in the open label extension treatment group when compared to the original rate of decline of the placebo group from HOPE-two after 1 year. Even more profound were the cardiac findings we observed. Speaker 200:08:10While the natural history of DMD cardiomyopathy suggests a steady decline in cardiac function As measured by ejection fraction, in HOPE-two OLE, we observed improvements in heart function in 6 of 9 patients. Over time, we also observed an increasing correlation with the performance of the upper limb version 2.0 and ejection fraction results. The 2 year results from this open label study are tremendously impactful for DMD patients, So in cardiac and skeletal functional benefits, which underscores the potential long term benefits of CAP-one thousand and two treatments in DMD, The disease modifying potential together with the favorable safety and tolerability profile further positions CAP-one thousand and two as a potential anchor therapy for DMD patients. We are thankful to the patients and their families for their continuous commitment to working with us on demonstrating the potential benefits of CAP-one thousand and two. Now turning to our partnership strategy. Speaker 200:09:15Now that we have secured commercial and distribution rights in the U. S. And Japan with our partner Nippon Shinyaku, We continue to focus on securing additional partners in other markets around the world with Europe being a key priority I now have several companies evaluating the opportunity. Another focus I would like to briefly touch upon is the opportunity to evaluate new indications for CAP-one thousand and two might provide benefits to additional patients. While we haven't committed any resources to this development area yet, this opportunity would provide another potential avenue for partnering, Licensing or even sole development leveraging on the capabilities we have built at Capricor for CAP-one thousand and two. Speaker 200:10:01Lastly, I would like to provide an update on our GMP manufacturing facility. We have Design this GMP manufacturing facility to produce commercial scale GMP CAP-one thousand and two doses. We see this facility as a versatile and cost effective way to bring CAP-one thousand and two to market efficiently. In anticipation of CAP-one thousand and two obtaining market We built this facility because we believe having the ability to manufacture in house will greatly increase our margins and will support the early launch of this product. I am pleased to report that the San Diego facility is up and running, Engineering runs are underway and we remain on track to be able to release clinical doses in the Q3 of this year. Speaker 200:10:48Overall, I am very pleased with the progress of our DMD program. We look forward to sharing further updates from our interactions with FDA, our progress with HOPE-three and the development of potential additional partnerships in new territories. We have 2 new additions to our senior leadership team enhancing our regulatory and CMC internal expertise. Doctor. Yushi Feng has assumed his role as Vice President of Regulatory, overseeing all regulatory activities. Speaker 200:11:19Doctor. Feng previously worked at the FDA, Wave Life Sciences and Kodiak Biosciences. Each of these Companies have overlapping areas with overlap are overlapping with our areas of focus. Additionally, Jonathan Tayko has joined us as Vice President of Program Management and Business Operations, overseeing CMC Development Act. Prior experience for Mr. Speaker 200:11:44Tayco included Kite Pharma, where he played an integral role in the BLA approval of Yescarta, one of the first approved cell therapy treatments for large B cell lymphoma. I'm very pleased to welcome these 2 new members to our team. Now turning to our exosome platform technology, which leverages the natural cell to cell communication of the body. We are harnessing exosomes to serve as a novel drug delivery system with broad therapeutic applications and our proprietary Stealth X XPression platform is at the core of our exosome program, which is focused on the development of 2 broad modalities, infectious disease and precision therapeutics. As previously stated, we believe that exosomes are the future of drug delivery. Speaker 200:12:33They are able to deliver contents directly to the cell, The ability to manufacture a large volume of a relatively homogeneous formulation similar to lipid nanoparticle. We have focused a significant amount of time and energy into manufacturing and targeting of exosomes and I am delighted to share with you that we have made Paradigm shifting progress on these objectives. This development step allows for rapid and efficient development of future exosome products. To that end, I'm very pleased to report that we have recently begun work with an undisclosed pharma company looking at enhancing delivery of ASOs using exosomes as the delivery vehicle. I look forward to providing more details on this in the coming months as this is a very important step for Capricorn as we begin to leverage our platform Stealth X. Speaker 200:13:33We look further to exploring the applications of our CellFX platform as we expand into a precision based therapeutic and are working in targets primarily in neuromuscular diseases at this time. Additionally, we recently published data in Bio Rx IV, A journal featuring 2 vaccine candidates that were generated with Stelphax. Exosomes were engineered to express influenza H3 or SARS CoV-two spike. When administered individually, both Stealth X H3 and Stealth X spike introduced a strong immunization with the production of a potent humoral and cellular immune response. These effects were obtained with administration of nanograms of protein and without adjuvant or lipid nanoparticles. Speaker 200:14:23To test the potential benefits of the bivalent vaccine. Hemagglutinin H3 and SARS CoV-two spike proteins were individually engineered on the exosome surface and mixed before injection. This combination approach also induced a strong immune response in mice with both antibody and T cell response. Additionally, there were no detectable immune competition between antigens. By combining multiple targets in a These results support the potential therapeutic utility and versatility of our Stealth X platform and addressing a broad range of infectious diseases. Speaker 200:15:04Our current plans continue to focus on leveraging business development and partnering strategies as well as non dilutive grant funding for our exosome platform technology. In closing, We are pleased with the advancements across our organization as we remain focused on becoming a commercial scale company with CAP-one thousand and two as our lead asset and development of our Exosome technology. We are entering the second half of the year in a position of strength. I look forward to working with our new board members and capitalizing on their deep industry experience and forward looking vision, which we feel will be invaluable as we continue to execute on the key priorities for CAP-one thousand and two and our exosome platform. Now with that, I will turn the call over to our Chief Financial Officer, A. Speaker 200:15:50J. Bergman, to run through our financial results for the Q2 of 2023. Speaker 100:15:57Thank you, Linda. This afternoon's press release provided a summary of our Q2 2023 financials on a GAAP basis. You may also refer to our quarterly report on Form 10Q, which we expect to become available shortly and will be accessible on the SEC website as well as the Financial section of our website. As of June 30, 2023, the company's cash, cash equivalents and marketable securities totaled approximately $37,800,000 compared to approximately $41,400,000 on December 31, 2022. Based on our current operating plan, excludes any additional potential milestone payments under our exclusive commercialization and distribution agreements with Nippon Shinyaku that may become due, which would extend our cash runway. Speaker 100:16:51Turning to the financials. Revenues for the Q2 of 2023 were approximately $3,900,000 Compared with 0 for the Q2 of 2022, the primary source of revenue was from the ratable recognition of the $30,000,000 upfront payment in accordance with our U. S. Exclusive commercialization and distribution agreement we received from Nippon Shinyaku. Moving to our operating expense For the Q2 of 2023, excluding stock based compensation, our research and development expense was approximately $8,400,000 compared to approximately $4,700,000 in Q2 2022. Speaker 100:17:26Again, excluding stock based compensation, our general and administrative expenses were approximately 1 point $7,000,000 in Q2 2023 and approximately $1,400,000 in Q2 2022. Net loss for the Q2 of 20 23 was approximately $7,400,000 compared to a net loss of approximately $7,100,000 for the Q2 of 2022. Net loss for the first half of twenty twenty three was approximately $15,100,000 compared to a net loss of approximately $14,900,000 for the first half of twenty twenty two. And with that, we will now open the line up for questions. Thank you very much. Operator00:18:05Thank you, sir. Ladies and gentlemen, we will now begin the question and answer session. Your first question comes from the line of Joe Pantginis from H. C. Wainwright. Operator00:18:30Please go ahead. Speaker 300:18:32Hi, good afternoon, Linda and A. J. Thanks for taking the questions. So I know there's a lot of working parts here and I know my questions So with that said, I guess, as San Diego comes online this quarter, if I heard you correctly, Do you have a general range of the number of patients that would be required from that facility to start with? Speaker 200:19:03Yes, Joe, hey, good to talk to you. And you're correct. There's very little we can say until we get the final minutes. But What I can tell you is that once we get them, we plan on doing a public release in some way either via press release and or call So to update the market and the community as to exactly the path forward, what I can tell you is that FDA has worked really closely with us. They're very supportive of this program. Speaker 200:19:28Several of our patients' families have reached out to FDA in order to ask them to We'll take a really careful look at Capricorn to help move the program forward because they feel that their sons are feeling and focusing better. And so we're confident that the answers that we get back from FDA will be The best ones possible to move the products towards BLA. Speaker 300:19:48That makes sense. And I guess For my next question, it's sort of in the same realm, but I'll ask it sort of scenario based. So you do have the type you do have the minutes that you're awaiting right Now you also have the upcoming interim analysis in the Q4 for Hope 3, which you said is primarily based on futility. However, in your Does one of the potential scenarios include the positive feedback from the minutes With regard to the data you might see in the interim that could allow for the acceleration or resetting of the timelines positively for HOPE-three? Speaker 200:20:25Yes. That was a pretty impressive question to ask Joe. Good work. I can tell you've been doing this a long time. So the answer to that is futility is the metric that we're looking at for the interim analysis. Speaker 200:20:42FDA has been pretty clear with us that they want to keep this trial very tightly regulated, really carefully monitored, Because they believe in the product too, we can tell from their feedback from us for us. And so, we're probably not going to use the interim for accelerated approval opportunity. I can tell you, that I am laser focusing on opportunities where we may be able to take advantage of an earlier look, To look for an accelerated approval, I cannot disclose now, how we might do that, but that is something we're definitely thinking about. Speaker 300:21:16Got it. And I guess my other questions are strictly logistical. So in the conduct of HOPE III, You're obviously encouraged by the enrollment rates that you've been seeing, if I understand correctly. What are the prominent reasons For screening failure of patients or what does the patient and also what does the patient pipeline look like for potential enrollment? Speaker 200:21:40Yes, Joe, great question. So screen failure, which has really come down a lot, thanks to our really very strong New clinical team that we put in place. And the primary reason that people fail out typically is that they don't have Inclusion criteria of the performance of the upper limb score 2 to 5. And so we typically see some of these guys whose scores are too low. And let me just say from a human level, It's heartbreaking because they have to have the ability to use their hands and bring it to their mouth unassisted. Speaker 200:22:12And we probably get 2 or 3 calls a week from people saying, well, what if they need help? What if they use their other hand to boost it? People want CAP-one thousand and two desperately. So that leads into the answer to your second question. The pipeline of potential patients is very rich. Speaker 200:22:28There's a lot Energy around this open label extension data, at the PPMG meeting, we were by far one of the busiest booths, second only to Sarepta with the gene therapy. And so we are looking to build with Sarepta with all of the gene therapies that could come along as anchor therapy for CAP-one thousand and two. And so the family see it that way as well. So we do not see any potential, turndown or downturn, not downturn, downturn in patient opportunities moving forward. Speaker 300:22:58Got it. And then lastly, going away from HOPE III and DMD, you did give us a little bit of a tease again about Additional CAP-one thousand and two opportunities and I was just curious here, any potential for Going back to any of the prior indications that you've worked on in the cardiovascular arena or any teasing you might want to give us now with regard to newer indications Or is this wait and see? Speaker 200:23:27Yes. So, I think the best way to answer that is we are very Pleased with the progress of CAP-one thousand and two and DMD. I think it's very clear that there seems to be a disease modifying and a very strong treatment effect that persists after years. Our patients have done really well on a repeated exposure. We have open label extension patients that are in their 3rd year and coming into their 4th year of treatment. Speaker 200:23:51And so it's very safe. The infusions are easy. So we are opening the door internally to look at potential opportunities for CAP-one thousand and two. We're exploring those now and we'll provide updates as we have them to where we will likely deploy CAP-one thousand and two next. But what I can tell you, If you're sort of looking into your crystal ball, we've seen really nice data and in an inflammatory cardiomyopathy, skeletal muscle disease, neuromuscular disease. Speaker 200:24:18We know that CAP-one thousand and two's primary mode of action is immunomodulatory and pro regenerative. So we're going to continue to explore indications that The disease pathogenesis would be highlighted by those two processes. Speaker 300:24:31Got it. Thank you, Linda. Appreciate it. Speaker 200:24:34Thanks, Joe. Take care. I'll see you soon. Operator00:24:48Your next question comes from the line of Alan Long from BioWatch News. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:24:56Linda, A. J, it's great to be back and what wonderful commentary. Linda, your commentary extends way beyond the release and love to hear it. And also a shout out to Joe, the last analyst for great questions. I have a couple of sets of questions. Speaker 400:25:13You are into really low volume, high margin products, although Linda, you thought my ear about the breakthroughs Into scalability, is the pilot manufacturing model a possible template for Capricor's future path towards Vertical integration, in other words, are you considering this your usual modus operandi going forward? You could simply replicate pilot sized facilities. Your Speaker 200:25:46By the way, it's great to hear your voice and I hope you're continuing to do well. But are you talking primarily about For CAP-one thousand and two in terms of pilot manufacturing expansion? Speaker 400:25:57Both. If I understand the manufacturing, you don't need a large footprint For either, do you accomplish what you need? Speaker 200:26:05Right. So they're similar but different, obviously. So with CAP-ten-two, We really have put several manufacturing scale out and scale up opportunities in place so that we can reduce the footprint necessary and create more self. That's Pretty effective and that's largely been the focus of the transfer to the San Diego GMP facility. We're working really closely with FDA and their CMC group In order to make sure that the product is the same as we produce in the pilot facility, which is why we're working right now to get those out there and into the clinic. Speaker 200:26:41So yes, we expect that we could expand this and it won't exactly be, as I think you're envisioning, which is we take 10 little pilot facilities and turned it into 100 little pilot facilities. It will be an expanded facility, but some manufacturing processes will be largely the same. So therapy manufacturing opportunities has really expanded in the past couple of decades. So there's a lot of good opportunity there. So Not exactly how you envisioned, but almost. Speaker 200:27:08In terms of exosomes, that is one of the areas of great pride for us. As I mentioned in my prepared remarks, One of the things that have held back exosomes is how are you going to make these? How are you going to make them homogeneous? How are you going to turn them into a product? And we believe We have done that. Speaker 200:27:25We've taken sort of the state of the art and what is known about Exosome, making lipid nanoparticles as well as some of the other engineering constructs And are building a really good manufacturing paradigm that also should be buildable and not really pilot plant expansion. That one will be more like Big bubbling bioreactors and that kind of thing as we move it forward. But that's a procedure that can easily go from A couple of mills to 100 mills to liters and to larger volumes in that, that makes any sense to you out? Speaker 400:28:02It does. You also caught my ear about the ASO undisclosed pharma interest. Want to go more general. Can I get more commentary on the general pharma and suitor interest? Because I've been watching this. Speaker 400:28:19How much for So from suitors for combination trials, because if I read some of the literature right, if I'm wrong, feel free to bat me on the head. There's an absorption issue of the current gene and cell therapies. And this is our top one, 102 potentially becomes 1 plus 1 equals 3 and not 2, that exerts a lot of interest from those who are In that space, can you further comment on that in general? Speaker 200:28:49You mean with the exosomes in terms of their partnering potential? Speaker 400:28:53Yes. Speaker 200:28:55Yes, absolutely. So, that's this is one of the Great opportunities in biotechnology and pharma is well aware of it. I think everybody knows that lipid nanoparticles can only take you so far. We've been working as a field, and I say we because this even predates my own career in science on delivery targeted delivery of therapeutics We know how important that is and we can now harness something that the body makes naturally to do that. And so that's why Capricor Has really turned our focus in the past few years towards an engineered exosome platform, not working specifically with Exosome made by a cell CAP-one thousand and two makes perfectly wonderful exosomes. Speaker 200:29:37We think they mediate the mechanism of action of CAP-one thousand and two. But what we really want to do is turn exosomes into a drug product. And so you engineer an exosome, you put what you want on the inside and you tell it where to go on the outside, it's like putting a zip code on it. And of course, Pharma is very interested in that. And we have a very active business development program right now. Speaker 200:29:57And one of the main hurdles was This manufacturing step which we have succeeded in doing. So we look forward to great opportunities with the exodomes moving forward. Speaker 400:30:07Last question, but this is for AGI, I guess for both of you, this will be a fun question, but it does get to some interesting things. You got $10,000,000 more dollars upfront cash from the last agreement. You got a grant or another agreement that brings in another $10,000,000 How would you like it used? Speaker 100:30:30Yes. Thanks, Alan. Nice to hear from you. I mean, Obviously, bringing in non dilutive capital is a big focus for us, as you heard Linda articulate, both from potential in our approach to vaccinology As well as the next steps, which is targeted therapeutics. Where exactly would we like to deploy it? Speaker 100:30:48I mean, if I had my wish list, it would be great To use that non dilutive capital to move into these types of new indications that we're hinting at here, whether it's new neuromuscular targets or Potentially using the exosome as a targeted vehicle, that would be my wish list and taking those non dilutive capital dollars in the door is a big area that we're putting a lot of energy and I don't know Linda wants to articulate anything else. Speaker 200:31:13Yes. So, cash is king as you are in product development mode. And What we would definitely do is use it in a laser focused targeted way to move our programs forward. So CAP 102 is at the front of the line right now. All Major dollars being spent are being spent on getting CAP-one hundred and two approved and then the few Dollars left over go towards the exosome program as we move that forward. Speaker 200:31:41If the dollars come in and are specifically requested to build a program, we would obviously work on that. For instance, if there was a deal where they wanted to build engineered exosome, that's where a good proportion of those dollars would go. So To that end, we are focusing on what we need to do, AJ, maintains a very tight ship in terms of managing our resources and that Speaker 400:32:06Well, I look forward in the intermediate future, Linda, to Walk in your office. The future looks bright for both of us and I'm Speaker 200:32:16pleased with what Speaker 400:32:18I hear. Yes. Speaker 200:32:19That's wonderful news. Well, the future is bright for Capricor, but if the future is bright for you, that's great news, Alan. So let's see each other soon. Speaker 400:32:28Thank you. Looking forward to it. Speaker 200:32:31All right. Take care, Alan. Speaker 400:32:33Take care. Operator00:32:51There seems to be no further questions at this time. I'd now like to turn the call back over to Capricor Management for any closing remarks. Speaker 200:33:00Thank you. 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There are 5 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Afternoon, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Capricor Therapeutics Second Quarter 2023 Financial Results and Corporate Update Call. At this time, all lines are in a listen only mode. Following the presentation, we will conduct a question and answer session. As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to our host, Mr. Operator00:00:30A. J. Bergman, Capricor's Chief Financial Officer. Speaker 100:00:36Thank you, and good afternoon, everyone. Before we start, I would like to state that we will be making certain forward looking statements during today's presentation. These statements may include statements regarding, among other things, the efficacy, safety and intended utilization of our product candidates Our future research and development plans, including our anticipated conduct and timing of preclinical and clinical studies, plans to present or report additional data, Our plans regarding regulatory filings, potential regulatory developments regarding our product candidates, manufacturing capabilities, potential milestone payments and other possible uses of existing cash and investment resources. These forward looking statements are based on current information, assumptions and expectations that are subject to change and involve a number of risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially from those contained in the forward looking statements. These and other risks are described in our periodic filings made with the SEC, including our quarterly and annual reports. Speaker 100:01:29You are cautioned not to place undue reliance on these forward looking statements, and we disclaim any obligation to update such statements. With that, I'll turn the call over to Linda Marban, CEO. Speaker 200:01:40Thank you, A. J. Good afternoon and thank you for joining our Q2 2023 conference call. Today, I would like to begin by reiterating our deep commitment to optimizing patient focused medicine and in the first half of twenty twenty three, we continued to make steady progress across our pipeline and are well positioned to deliver on important clinical and regulatory milestones for our Duchenne muscular dystrophy program as well as continue to advance our exosome platform technology. I am extremely pleased with the recent additions of 2 new members to our Board of Directors With the addition of doctors Philip Gotwalt and Paul Atwater, Doctor. Speaker 200:02:21Gotwalt most recently served as the Global Head Vice President of Business Development and Licensing at Novartis Institutes For Biomedical Research and has nearly 30 years of experience in drug development, research, corporate strategy and business development. Doctor. Airwater brings over 30 years of internal medicine and infectious disease experience As the Sherilyn and Ken Fisher Professor of Medicine at the Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine, serving as the Clinical Director for the Division of Infectious Diseases and the Director of the Cherilyn and Ken Fisher Center For Environmental Infectious Diseases. Both Doctor. Gottwald and Airwater's deep industry experience will be invaluable as we continue to enhance our strategic and business development priorities across both of our programs. Speaker 200:03:17Our late stage clinical development program for CAP-one thousand and two and patients DMD continues to advance through development and key priorities include enrollment of our Phase III O3 clinical trial, which I will give more details on in the next few minutes, as well as continuing discussions with the FDA regarding the proposed path towards submissions of a Biologics license application. Building on this momentum, we believe we are well positioned to execute our corporate executives through our objectives throughout the remainder of the year. I will now dive into our programs and provide an update on recent activity. Let me provide you an update on our recent FDA interactions. Earlier this year, as part of our RMAT designation, We held a Type B CMC or Chemistry, Manufacturing and Controls related meeting with FDA where we outlined our plans for production of commercial scale GMP CAP-ten-two. Speaker 200:04:20The outcome of this meeting was positive and that FTA clearly outlined for us the deliverables necessary for the CMC portion of our BLA. As we previously have reported, there also was a discussion concerning the possible inclusion of additional patients We would need to be treated with product from our San Diego GMP facility in order to support commercial product manufacturing at this site. As this request would have likely extended the timeline for the completion of our pivotal trial and therefore the time to BLA, We requested a subsequent Type B clinical meeting with FDA to determine if there was a more efficient and expeditious path to BLA due to the great unmet medical need of this patient population. The advocacy community believes As we do, the CAP-one thousand and two attenuates disease progression and they have continued to raise awareness of our program within the FDA And specifically CBER and as the FDA continues to highlight the importance of patient perspective, they have continued to pay close attention to our program. To that end, the FDA granted our request to discuss our program in more detail And this meeting occurred in July of this year. Speaker 200:05:42The goal was to further outline a plan for an expedited path to BLA for CAP-one thousand and two for for the treatment of later stage DMT. And I'm happy to share that FDA seem generally supportive of this plan. Currently, we are awaiting the final minutes from FDA, which we expect this month. We have already had another informal meeting with FDA to further design certain aspects of our program and we are greatly appreciative of the FDA's guidance to optimize the HOPE-three clinical trial design to support our path to potential approval. Next, I will provide an update on HOPE-three, our Phase 3 clinical trial. Speaker 200:06:24I am very pleased to inform you that as of today, We have randomized 48 subjects across 17 active sites. And based on the currently designed sample size of 68 patients, We are on track to be fully enrolled early in Q4 of this year. Furthermore, we remain on track to conduct an interim analysis on HOPE-three in the Q4 of this year, which will primarily focus on a futility analysis. I am very enthusiastic about the rate of enrollments, which has been strong throughout the summer and propelled by the positive feedback from patients and families, including the anecdotal reports of disease attenuation. Additionally, we are extremely pleased by the safety profile of CAP-one thousand and two and the overall support of our investigators and family. Speaker 200:07:15Now for an update on our most recent HOPE-two open label extension or OLE results presented at this year's Parent Project for Muscular Dystrophy Annual Conference. To remind you, we presented positive statistically significant 2 year follow-up results from the study. As you may recall, the HOPE-two OLE study previously met its primary endpoint at the 1 year time point on the poll version 2.0 scale. At the 24 month time point, The data continued to show statistically significant differences in the pull performance of the upper limb version 2.0 in the open label extension treatment group when compared to the original rate of decline of the placebo group from HOPE-two after 1 year. Even more profound were the cardiac findings we observed. Speaker 200:08:10While the natural history of DMD cardiomyopathy suggests a steady decline in cardiac function As measured by ejection fraction, in HOPE-two OLE, we observed improvements in heart function in 6 of 9 patients. Over time, we also observed an increasing correlation with the performance of the upper limb version 2.0 and ejection fraction results. The 2 year results from this open label study are tremendously impactful for DMD patients, So in cardiac and skeletal functional benefits, which underscores the potential long term benefits of CAP-one thousand and two treatments in DMD, The disease modifying potential together with the favorable safety and tolerability profile further positions CAP-one thousand and two as a potential anchor therapy for DMD patients. We are thankful to the patients and their families for their continuous commitment to working with us on demonstrating the potential benefits of CAP-one thousand and two. Now turning to our partnership strategy. Speaker 200:09:15Now that we have secured commercial and distribution rights in the U. S. And Japan with our partner Nippon Shinyaku, We continue to focus on securing additional partners in other markets around the world with Europe being a key priority I now have several companies evaluating the opportunity. Another focus I would like to briefly touch upon is the opportunity to evaluate new indications for CAP-one thousand and two might provide benefits to additional patients. While we haven't committed any resources to this development area yet, this opportunity would provide another potential avenue for partnering, Licensing or even sole development leveraging on the capabilities we have built at Capricor for CAP-one thousand and two. Speaker 200:10:01Lastly, I would like to provide an update on our GMP manufacturing facility. We have Design this GMP manufacturing facility to produce commercial scale GMP CAP-one thousand and two doses. We see this facility as a versatile and cost effective way to bring CAP-one thousand and two to market efficiently. In anticipation of CAP-one thousand and two obtaining market We built this facility because we believe having the ability to manufacture in house will greatly increase our margins and will support the early launch of this product. I am pleased to report that the San Diego facility is up and running, Engineering runs are underway and we remain on track to be able to release clinical doses in the Q3 of this year. Speaker 200:10:48Overall, I am very pleased with the progress of our DMD program. We look forward to sharing further updates from our interactions with FDA, our progress with HOPE-three and the development of potential additional partnerships in new territories. We have 2 new additions to our senior leadership team enhancing our regulatory and CMC internal expertise. Doctor. Yushi Feng has assumed his role as Vice President of Regulatory, overseeing all regulatory activities. Speaker 200:11:19Doctor. Feng previously worked at the FDA, Wave Life Sciences and Kodiak Biosciences. Each of these Companies have overlapping areas with overlap are overlapping with our areas of focus. Additionally, Jonathan Tayko has joined us as Vice President of Program Management and Business Operations, overseeing CMC Development Act. Prior experience for Mr. Speaker 200:11:44Tayco included Kite Pharma, where he played an integral role in the BLA approval of Yescarta, one of the first approved cell therapy treatments for large B cell lymphoma. I'm very pleased to welcome these 2 new members to our team. Now turning to our exosome platform technology, which leverages the natural cell to cell communication of the body. We are harnessing exosomes to serve as a novel drug delivery system with broad therapeutic applications and our proprietary Stealth X XPression platform is at the core of our exosome program, which is focused on the development of 2 broad modalities, infectious disease and precision therapeutics. As previously stated, we believe that exosomes are the future of drug delivery. Speaker 200:12:33They are able to deliver contents directly to the cell, The ability to manufacture a large volume of a relatively homogeneous formulation similar to lipid nanoparticle. We have focused a significant amount of time and energy into manufacturing and targeting of exosomes and I am delighted to share with you that we have made Paradigm shifting progress on these objectives. This development step allows for rapid and efficient development of future exosome products. To that end, I'm very pleased to report that we have recently begun work with an undisclosed pharma company looking at enhancing delivery of ASOs using exosomes as the delivery vehicle. I look forward to providing more details on this in the coming months as this is a very important step for Capricorn as we begin to leverage our platform Stealth X. Speaker 200:13:33We look further to exploring the applications of our CellFX platform as we expand into a precision based therapeutic and are working in targets primarily in neuromuscular diseases at this time. Additionally, we recently published data in Bio Rx IV, A journal featuring 2 vaccine candidates that were generated with Stelphax. Exosomes were engineered to express influenza H3 or SARS CoV-two spike. When administered individually, both Stealth X H3 and Stealth X spike introduced a strong immunization with the production of a potent humoral and cellular immune response. These effects were obtained with administration of nanograms of protein and without adjuvant or lipid nanoparticles. Speaker 200:14:23To test the potential benefits of the bivalent vaccine. Hemagglutinin H3 and SARS CoV-two spike proteins were individually engineered on the exosome surface and mixed before injection. This combination approach also induced a strong immune response in mice with both antibody and T cell response. Additionally, there were no detectable immune competition between antigens. By combining multiple targets in a These results support the potential therapeutic utility and versatility of our Stealth X platform and addressing a broad range of infectious diseases. Speaker 200:15:04Our current plans continue to focus on leveraging business development and partnering strategies as well as non dilutive grant funding for our exosome platform technology. In closing, We are pleased with the advancements across our organization as we remain focused on becoming a commercial scale company with CAP-one thousand and two as our lead asset and development of our Exosome technology. We are entering the second half of the year in a position of strength. I look forward to working with our new board members and capitalizing on their deep industry experience and forward looking vision, which we feel will be invaluable as we continue to execute on the key priorities for CAP-one thousand and two and our exosome platform. Now with that, I will turn the call over to our Chief Financial Officer, A. Speaker 200:15:50J. Bergman, to run through our financial results for the Q2 of 2023. Speaker 100:15:57Thank you, Linda. This afternoon's press release provided a summary of our Q2 2023 financials on a GAAP basis. You may also refer to our quarterly report on Form 10Q, which we expect to become available shortly and will be accessible on the SEC website as well as the Financial section of our website. As of June 30, 2023, the company's cash, cash equivalents and marketable securities totaled approximately $37,800,000 compared to approximately $41,400,000 on December 31, 2022. Based on our current operating plan, excludes any additional potential milestone payments under our exclusive commercialization and distribution agreements with Nippon Shinyaku that may become due, which would extend our cash runway. Speaker 100:16:51Turning to the financials. Revenues for the Q2 of 2023 were approximately $3,900,000 Compared with 0 for the Q2 of 2022, the primary source of revenue was from the ratable recognition of the $30,000,000 upfront payment in accordance with our U. S. Exclusive commercialization and distribution agreement we received from Nippon Shinyaku. Moving to our operating expense For the Q2 of 2023, excluding stock based compensation, our research and development expense was approximately $8,400,000 compared to approximately $4,700,000 in Q2 2022. Speaker 100:17:26Again, excluding stock based compensation, our general and administrative expenses were approximately 1 point $7,000,000 in Q2 2023 and approximately $1,400,000 in Q2 2022. Net loss for the Q2 of 20 23 was approximately $7,400,000 compared to a net loss of approximately $7,100,000 for the Q2 of 2022. Net loss for the first half of twenty twenty three was approximately $15,100,000 compared to a net loss of approximately $14,900,000 for the first half of twenty twenty two. And with that, we will now open the line up for questions. Thank you very much. Operator00:18:05Thank you, sir. Ladies and gentlemen, we will now begin the question and answer session. Your first question comes from the line of Joe Pantginis from H. C. Wainwright. Operator00:18:30Please go ahead. Speaker 300:18:32Hi, good afternoon, Linda and A. J. Thanks for taking the questions. So I know there's a lot of working parts here and I know my questions So with that said, I guess, as San Diego comes online this quarter, if I heard you correctly, Do you have a general range of the number of patients that would be required from that facility to start with? Speaker 200:19:03Yes, Joe, hey, good to talk to you. And you're correct. There's very little we can say until we get the final minutes. But What I can tell you is that once we get them, we plan on doing a public release in some way either via press release and or call So to update the market and the community as to exactly the path forward, what I can tell you is that FDA has worked really closely with us. They're very supportive of this program. Speaker 200:19:28Several of our patients' families have reached out to FDA in order to ask them to We'll take a really careful look at Capricorn to help move the program forward because they feel that their sons are feeling and focusing better. And so we're confident that the answers that we get back from FDA will be The best ones possible to move the products towards BLA. Speaker 300:19:48That makes sense. And I guess For my next question, it's sort of in the same realm, but I'll ask it sort of scenario based. So you do have the type you do have the minutes that you're awaiting right Now you also have the upcoming interim analysis in the Q4 for Hope 3, which you said is primarily based on futility. However, in your Does one of the potential scenarios include the positive feedback from the minutes With regard to the data you might see in the interim that could allow for the acceleration or resetting of the timelines positively for HOPE-three? Speaker 200:20:25Yes. That was a pretty impressive question to ask Joe. Good work. I can tell you've been doing this a long time. So the answer to that is futility is the metric that we're looking at for the interim analysis. Speaker 200:20:42FDA has been pretty clear with us that they want to keep this trial very tightly regulated, really carefully monitored, Because they believe in the product too, we can tell from their feedback from us for us. And so, we're probably not going to use the interim for accelerated approval opportunity. I can tell you, that I am laser focusing on opportunities where we may be able to take advantage of an earlier look, To look for an accelerated approval, I cannot disclose now, how we might do that, but that is something we're definitely thinking about. Speaker 300:21:16Got it. And I guess my other questions are strictly logistical. So in the conduct of HOPE III, You're obviously encouraged by the enrollment rates that you've been seeing, if I understand correctly. What are the prominent reasons For screening failure of patients or what does the patient and also what does the patient pipeline look like for potential enrollment? Speaker 200:21:40Yes, Joe, great question. So screen failure, which has really come down a lot, thanks to our really very strong New clinical team that we put in place. And the primary reason that people fail out typically is that they don't have Inclusion criteria of the performance of the upper limb score 2 to 5. And so we typically see some of these guys whose scores are too low. And let me just say from a human level, It's heartbreaking because they have to have the ability to use their hands and bring it to their mouth unassisted. Speaker 200:22:12And we probably get 2 or 3 calls a week from people saying, well, what if they need help? What if they use their other hand to boost it? People want CAP-one thousand and two desperately. So that leads into the answer to your second question. The pipeline of potential patients is very rich. Speaker 200:22:28There's a lot Energy around this open label extension data, at the PPMG meeting, we were by far one of the busiest booths, second only to Sarepta with the gene therapy. And so we are looking to build with Sarepta with all of the gene therapies that could come along as anchor therapy for CAP-one thousand and two. And so the family see it that way as well. So we do not see any potential, turndown or downturn, not downturn, downturn in patient opportunities moving forward. Speaker 300:22:58Got it. And then lastly, going away from HOPE III and DMD, you did give us a little bit of a tease again about Additional CAP-one thousand and two opportunities and I was just curious here, any potential for Going back to any of the prior indications that you've worked on in the cardiovascular arena or any teasing you might want to give us now with regard to newer indications Or is this wait and see? Speaker 200:23:27Yes. So, I think the best way to answer that is we are very Pleased with the progress of CAP-one thousand and two and DMD. I think it's very clear that there seems to be a disease modifying and a very strong treatment effect that persists after years. Our patients have done really well on a repeated exposure. We have open label extension patients that are in their 3rd year and coming into their 4th year of treatment. Speaker 200:23:51And so it's very safe. The infusions are easy. So we are opening the door internally to look at potential opportunities for CAP-one thousand and two. We're exploring those now and we'll provide updates as we have them to where we will likely deploy CAP-one thousand and two next. But what I can tell you, If you're sort of looking into your crystal ball, we've seen really nice data and in an inflammatory cardiomyopathy, skeletal muscle disease, neuromuscular disease. Speaker 200:24:18We know that CAP-one thousand and two's primary mode of action is immunomodulatory and pro regenerative. So we're going to continue to explore indications that The disease pathogenesis would be highlighted by those two processes. Speaker 300:24:31Got it. Thank you, Linda. Appreciate it. Speaker 200:24:34Thanks, Joe. Take care. I'll see you soon. Operator00:24:48Your next question comes from the line of Alan Long from BioWatch News. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:24:56Linda, A. J, it's great to be back and what wonderful commentary. Linda, your commentary extends way beyond the release and love to hear it. And also a shout out to Joe, the last analyst for great questions. I have a couple of sets of questions. Speaker 400:25:13You are into really low volume, high margin products, although Linda, you thought my ear about the breakthroughs Into scalability, is the pilot manufacturing model a possible template for Capricor's future path towards Vertical integration, in other words, are you considering this your usual modus operandi going forward? You could simply replicate pilot sized facilities. Your Speaker 200:25:46By the way, it's great to hear your voice and I hope you're continuing to do well. But are you talking primarily about For CAP-one thousand and two in terms of pilot manufacturing expansion? Speaker 400:25:57Both. If I understand the manufacturing, you don't need a large footprint For either, do you accomplish what you need? Speaker 200:26:05Right. So they're similar but different, obviously. So with CAP-ten-two, We really have put several manufacturing scale out and scale up opportunities in place so that we can reduce the footprint necessary and create more self. That's Pretty effective and that's largely been the focus of the transfer to the San Diego GMP facility. We're working really closely with FDA and their CMC group In order to make sure that the product is the same as we produce in the pilot facility, which is why we're working right now to get those out there and into the clinic. Speaker 200:26:41So yes, we expect that we could expand this and it won't exactly be, as I think you're envisioning, which is we take 10 little pilot facilities and turned it into 100 little pilot facilities. It will be an expanded facility, but some manufacturing processes will be largely the same. So therapy manufacturing opportunities has really expanded in the past couple of decades. So there's a lot of good opportunity there. So Not exactly how you envisioned, but almost. Speaker 200:27:08In terms of exosomes, that is one of the areas of great pride for us. As I mentioned in my prepared remarks, One of the things that have held back exosomes is how are you going to make these? How are you going to make them homogeneous? How are you going to turn them into a product? And we believe We have done that. Speaker 200:27:25We've taken sort of the state of the art and what is known about Exosome, making lipid nanoparticles as well as some of the other engineering constructs And are building a really good manufacturing paradigm that also should be buildable and not really pilot plant expansion. That one will be more like Big bubbling bioreactors and that kind of thing as we move it forward. But that's a procedure that can easily go from A couple of mills to 100 mills to liters and to larger volumes in that, that makes any sense to you out? Speaker 400:28:02It does. You also caught my ear about the ASO undisclosed pharma interest. Want to go more general. Can I get more commentary on the general pharma and suitor interest? Because I've been watching this. Speaker 400:28:19How much for So from suitors for combination trials, because if I read some of the literature right, if I'm wrong, feel free to bat me on the head. There's an absorption issue of the current gene and cell therapies. And this is our top one, 102 potentially becomes 1 plus 1 equals 3 and not 2, that exerts a lot of interest from those who are In that space, can you further comment on that in general? Speaker 200:28:49You mean with the exosomes in terms of their partnering potential? Speaker 400:28:53Yes. Speaker 200:28:55Yes, absolutely. So, that's this is one of the Great opportunities in biotechnology and pharma is well aware of it. I think everybody knows that lipid nanoparticles can only take you so far. We've been working as a field, and I say we because this even predates my own career in science on delivery targeted delivery of therapeutics We know how important that is and we can now harness something that the body makes naturally to do that. And so that's why Capricor Has really turned our focus in the past few years towards an engineered exosome platform, not working specifically with Exosome made by a cell CAP-one thousand and two makes perfectly wonderful exosomes. Speaker 200:29:37We think they mediate the mechanism of action of CAP-one thousand and two. But what we really want to do is turn exosomes into a drug product. And so you engineer an exosome, you put what you want on the inside and you tell it where to go on the outside, it's like putting a zip code on it. And of course, Pharma is very interested in that. And we have a very active business development program right now. Speaker 200:29:57And one of the main hurdles was This manufacturing step which we have succeeded in doing. So we look forward to great opportunities with the exodomes moving forward. Speaker 400:30:07Last question, but this is for AGI, I guess for both of you, this will be a fun question, but it does get to some interesting things. You got $10,000,000 more dollars upfront cash from the last agreement. You got a grant or another agreement that brings in another $10,000,000 How would you like it used? Speaker 100:30:30Yes. Thanks, Alan. Nice to hear from you. I mean, Obviously, bringing in non dilutive capital is a big focus for us, as you heard Linda articulate, both from potential in our approach to vaccinology As well as the next steps, which is targeted therapeutics. Where exactly would we like to deploy it? Speaker 100:30:48I mean, if I had my wish list, it would be great To use that non dilutive capital to move into these types of new indications that we're hinting at here, whether it's new neuromuscular targets or Potentially using the exosome as a targeted vehicle, that would be my wish list and taking those non dilutive capital dollars in the door is a big area that we're putting a lot of energy and I don't know Linda wants to articulate anything else. Speaker 200:31:13Yes. So, cash is king as you are in product development mode. And What we would definitely do is use it in a laser focused targeted way to move our programs forward. So CAP 102 is at the front of the line right now. All Major dollars being spent are being spent on getting CAP-one hundred and two approved and then the few Dollars left over go towards the exosome program as we move that forward. Speaker 200:31:41If the dollars come in and are specifically requested to build a program, we would obviously work on that. For instance, if there was a deal where they wanted to build engineered exosome, that's where a good proportion of those dollars would go. So To that end, we are focusing on what we need to do, AJ, maintains a very tight ship in terms of managing our resources and that Speaker 400:32:06Well, I look forward in the intermediate future, Linda, to Walk in your office. The future looks bright for both of us and I'm Speaker 200:32:16pleased with what Speaker 400:32:18I hear. Yes. Speaker 200:32:19That's wonderful news. Well, the future is bright for Capricor, but if the future is bright for you, that's great news, Alan. So let's see each other soon. Speaker 400:32:28Thank you. Looking forward to it. Speaker 200:32:31All right. Take care, Alan. Speaker 400:32:33Take care. Operator00:32:51There seems to be no further questions at this time. I'd now like to turn the call back over to Capricor Management for any closing remarks. Speaker 200:33:00Thank you. Overall, I am confident that the company's upcoming catalysts provide a solid foundation for execution and value creation. We remain focused on driving our late stage Before we conclude today's call, I want to extend my sincere appreciationRead morePowered by