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Earnings HistoryForecast RxSight EPS ResultsActual EPS-$0.40Consensus EPS -$0.47Beat/MissBeat by +$0.07One Year Ago EPSN/ARxSight Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$20.81 millionExpected Revenue$19.21 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$1.60 millionYoY Revenue GrowthN/ARxSight Announcement DetailsQuarterQ2 2023Date8/7/2023TimeN/AConference Call DateMonday, August 7, 2023Conference Call Time4:30PM ETUpcoming EarningsRxSight's Q2 2025 earnings is scheduled for Wednesday, May 7, 2025Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfilePowered by RxSight Q2 2023 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrAugust 7, 2023 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 9 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Day and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the RxSight Second Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. After the speakers' presentation, there will be a question and answer Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your first speaker today, Alex Huang. Operator00:00:38Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:40Thank you, operator. Presenting today are RX Sight President and Chief Executive Officer, Doctor. Ron Kurtz and Chief Financial Officer, Shelly Tunan. Earlier today, RX Sight released financial results for the 3 6 months ended June 30, 2023. A copy of the press release is available on the company's website. Speaker 100:01:05Before we begin, I would like to inform you that comments and responses to questions During today's call reflect management's views as of today, August 7, 2023, and will include forward looking and opinion statements, including predictions, estimates, plans, expectations and other information. Actual results may differ materially from those expressed or implied as a result of certain risks and uncertainties. These risks and uncertainties are more fully described in our press release issued today and in our filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission or SEC. Our SEC filings can be found on our website or the SEC's website. Investors are cautioned not to place undue reliance on forward looking statements, and we disclaim any obligation to update or revise these forward looking statements. Speaker 100:02:02We will also discuss certain non GAAP financial measures. Disclosures regarding non GAAP financial measures, including reconciliations with the most comparable GAAP measures can be found in the press release. Please note that this conference call will be available for audio replay on our Investor website. With that, I will turn the call over to President and Chief Executive Officer, Doctor. Ron Kurtz. Speaker 200:02:29Good afternoon and thank you for joining us. Today, we report another strong quarterly performance for RX Sight, representing our 10th consecutive period of quarter over quarter top line growth and driven by higher key operating metrics. In addition, we have taken further steps to strengthen our financial position. I'll discuss the favorable trends underlying our business later in the call, But first, Shelly will review our Q2 2023 financial performance and recent balance sheet transactions. Speaker 300:03:01Thank you, Ron. Good afternoon, everyone. RXHITE generated Q2 2023 revenue of $20,800,000 up 83% compared to $11,400,000 in the year ago quarter and up 19% compared to the $17,500,000 in the Q1 of 2023. We sold 67 light delivery devices in the Q2 of 2023, up 37% compared to 49 units in the year ago period and up 20% compared to the 56 units in the Q1 of 2023. 2nd quarter 2023 LDD sales generated revenue of $7,700,000 up 36% 19% versus the Q2 of 2022 Q1 of 2023, respectively. Speaker 300:03:58As of June 30, 2023, our LDD installed base increased to 523 units, up 78% 15% versus the Q2 of 2022 and 1st quarter of 2023, respectively. We sold 12,622 LALs In the Q2 of 2023, up 134% 20% compared to the 5,400 units and 10,523 units in the same year ago quarter and Q1 of this year, respectively. 2nd quarter 2023 LAL unit sales generated $12,400,000 in revenue, up 132% 19% compared to the $5,300,000 $10,400,000 in the Q2 of 2020 2 and the Q1 of 2023, respectively. LAL revenue represented 60 percent of total revenue in the Q2 of 2023, up from 47% 59% in the Q2 of 2022 Q1 of 2023, respectively. Gross margin in the Q2 of 20 23 was 58% compared to 42% in the same year ago quarter and 59% in the Q1 of 2023. Speaker 300:05:29Recall that the Q1 2023 gross margin was favorably impacted by LDD material price decreases, Freight savings and improvements in other costs included in LAL cost of sales, so the slight sequential change is consistent with our expectations. SG and A expenses in the Q2 of 2023 were $18,200,000 up 27% versus $14,400,000 in the year ago quarter, reflecting increased expenses in sales and marketing personnel costs and travel and increased non cash stock based compensation in sales, marketing and G and A. On a sequential basis, SG and A expenses were up 12% due primarily to increased personnel costs from increased headcount and increased marketing costs. R and D expenses in the Q2 of 2023 rose 20% to $7,400,000 compared to $6,200,000 in the same year ago quarter and $7,200,000 in the Q1 of 2023. The change versus the year ago quarter was primarily due to increased clinical study costs and increased headcount. Speaker 300:06:48We reported GAAP net loss in the Q2 of 2023 of $13,800,000 or a loss of $0.40 per basic and diluted share using weighted average shares outstanding at 34,500,000 shares. This compares to a GAAP net loss of $16,700,000 or $0.61 per share on a basic and diluted basis in the same year ago quarter. Non cash stock based compensation and loss on extinguishment of debt in the Q2 of 2023 was $4,000,000 $362,000 respectively, resulting in a non GAAP loss of $9,500,000 or a loss of $0.28 per basic and diluted share. Please refer to the unaudited non GAAP reconciliation and disclosure included in today's press release for more comparative information. We ended the Q2 of 2023 with cash, cash equivalents and short term investments of $147,100,000 compared to $153,900,000 at March 31, 2023. Speaker 300:08:05The change in the cash balance includes proceeds From our at the market program or ATM, stock option exercises and employee stock purchase plan share issuances less the pay down of $20,000,000 in debt plus termination fees and cash used in operations. Excluding the proceeds from financing and capital activities and use of capital for principal debt repayments, Cash used in operating activities during the Q2 was $9,500,000 This compares to 16 point $5,000,000 in cash used in operating activities in the Q1 of 2023, which included annual bonus payouts and higher increases in accounts receivable and inventory relative to the Q2 of 2023. On our last conference call, we indicated that we expect sequential quarterly reductions in cash used from operations in 2023. However, we may see a tick up in the Q3 because our Q2 cash use from operations was lower than expected due primarily to improvements in accounts receivable turns and higher accounts payable and accrued expenses. During the Q2 of 2023, we continue to implement our ATM program designed to further strengthen our balance sheet, raising $19,400,000 net of fees through the sale of common shares. Speaker 300:09:37We use these proceeds to reduce our term loan debt by half to $20,000,000 And as noted in today's press release, we raised an additional $11,900,000 net of fees in July under the ATM and paid off our remaining $20,000,000 debt balance. Turning now to guidance. Based on our Q2 2023 performance, we are increasing our 2023 guidance range to $81,000,000 to $86,000,000 up from prior guidance of $79,000,000 to $84,000,000 Our new guidance implies a year over year growth rate of 65% to 75% and assumes a typical cataract seasonality pattern with the Q3 lighter due to summer vacation schedules. We are also revising our 2023 guidance range for gross margin to 58% to 60% versus prior guidance of 56% to 58%. The increase reflects Continuing favorable revenue mix of LAL sales along with improved gross margin from our reconfigured LDD, which we expect to begin shipping this year with the gross margin benefit largely in the 4th quarter. Speaker 300:10:56We are increasing our 2023 operating expense guidance to $106,000,000 to $109,000,000 an increase of $1,000,000 at the top and bottom of the range. The increase reflects consulting fees, additional headcount and expanded auditor fees relating to the implementation of Sarbanes Oxley. With the increase in our market cap in the second quarter, we became subject to Section 404B of the Sarbanes Oxley Act effective with our December 31, 2023 fiscal year end and 10 ks to be filed in February 2024. The 2023 OpEx guidance represents a 25% to 29% rise over 2022 and primarily reflects our continued investments to build a large durable postoperative light treatment infrastructure to support sustained long term LAL procedure growth. It also includes non cash stock based compensation expense of 15 to $16,000,000 Since late 2022, we have raised $102,500,000 Net of fees through our confidentially marketed public offering and ATM program paid off $40,000,000 in term loan debt and reduced our annual interest expense by approximately $5,600,000 We believe our cash and short term investment balances combined with no outstanding debt, strengthens our balance sheet and leaves us well positioned to achieve profitability from operations with a healthy balance sheet. Speaker 300:12:39With that, I'll turn the call back to Ron. Speaker 200:12:43Thank you, Shelly. Last week, we marked the 2nd anniversary of our IPO, and I'd like to use my time today to highlight the progress we've made to position RX-site for long term success. First, we substantially increased the size and scope of our commercial organization, which has done a remarkable job as evidenced by the 2 year growth trends in our business. Compared to the Q2 of 2021, revenue was up 325% and quarterly LDD unit sales are up by more than 160%. Our installed base is roughly 3 times the size it was 2 years ago and now extends into Canada. Speaker 200:13:24Over this same period, LAL unit sales are up almost 600% and currently accounts for the majority of our total revenue. As Shelly just summarized, we have also continued to strengthen our balance sheet and investor base, which we believe provides a strong foundation for continued execution of our growth strategy and sets us on a path for future operating profit. At the same time, We've added new institutional shareholders to our ownership base and experienced a fivefold increase in the average daily trading volume of our stock, which along with the rise in market capitalization has substantially increased the universe of institutions that consider that can consider a meaningful RXSight position. Driving our success since the IPO has been the outstanding performance of our light adjustable lens across a wide range of patient types and preferences. We focused our efforts these past 2 years on continually refining the LAL technology and the critical knowledge base to enable doctors to deliver the best possible experience and results for patients. Speaker 200:14:35The LAL stands apart from every other premium IOL in the market today because postoperative adjustability allows patients to achieve precise, High quality vision that they can test drive and customize to arrive at their unique desired visual outcome. The growing body of real world clinical data collected over the past 2 years underscores the LAL's ability to deliver Superior uncorrected binocular visual acuity with the vast majority of patients achieving excellent vision over a range of distances Without increases in visual side effects such as glare and halo or reductions in contrast vision, a combination of outcomes They are increasingly being prioritized by doctors and patients, but are difficult to achieve consistently with competing fixed power lenses. By appealing to a wide variety of standard and premium IOL patients, the LAL enables practices to achieve a rapid return on investment for the LDD and establish an important ongoing premium revenue stream that can be further leveraged as additional practitioners tap into an existing light treatment infrastructure. We believe this will continue to be an important factor in growing LAL utilization, which has been rising steadily over the past 2 years. In closing, we are pleased with the strides that the RX- that the RX-site team has made in collaborating with our customers and investors as a public company. Speaker 200:16:05While we are still in the early stages of adoption, the LAL is beginning to change the premium IOL landscape and fuel expansion of this high growth market. Through a continued focus on customer needs and the thoughtful execution of our growth strategy, we believe the LAL can ultimately occupy A leading position in the premium cataract market, delivering sustained long term value to all stakeholders. With that, I'll ask the operator to open the call for questions. Operator00:16:35Thank you. We will now conduct the question and answer session. Thank you. Our first question is from Craig Bijou of BofA Securities. Please proceed with your question. Operator00:17:28One moment for our next question. Thank you. Our next question comes from Robbie Marcus of JPMorgan. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 400:17:44Great. Thanks for taking the question and congrats on a nice quarter. Speaker 300:17:49Thank you, Rob. Speaker 400:17:51Maybe to start, this is the 3rd quarter in a row by my math where we're seeing a really nice tick up in utilization And lens per LDD in the quarter. I think starting in Q4 and now first and second, it's So pretty significant step up. So maybe just speak to some of the trends you're seeing. How broad based is this across the Portfolio, is it driven by a top percentage or is it more wholesome from top to bottom Across users. And then I'll turn my second question in as well. Speaker 400:18:29You've had another quarter of really nice LDD Placement, the installed base is now over 500. How are you thinking about where you Stan, in terms of penetration of LDDs versus the broader potential base? And is future growth going to coming more from LAL uptake or LDD placements? Thanks a lot. Speaker 200:18:57Thank you, Ravi. I'll start and Shelly can add in anything. So with respect to utilization, generally, we think that The increase in utilization has been broad based, and some of that is attributable to Existing customers who've continued to increase their utilization as they've Seeing the benefits of the technology as more doctors in the practice have access to the infrastructure that has already been established in those practices. And then also with new customers, both because the Characteristics of the light adjustable lens are more broadly known and so doctors are more confident in starting With more of a commitment to the technology starting with larger volumes. And then of course our team, which consists both of our sales team as well as our clinical trainers, As we have learned over the last several years, how to give practices the information for them to start more efficiently and to expand more efficiently. Speaker 200:20:21So I think all of those have been factors In the growth of LAL utilization and we would anticipate that those factors would continue. Anything to add there, Shelly? No. With respect to LDD Penetration, as you noted, we're above 500 now. We still think that's a fraction of the overall Possibility, in the U. Speaker 200:20:52S, there are Several 1,000 practices that do cataract surgery and we're still in a minority of those. So we still see room for growth on the LDD side as well. Speaker 300:21:11Yes. I would just add to clarify a little bit. One of the things that's been nice about our LDD sales as well is That we've had good discipline in terms of pricing, that the pricing and ASP for the LDD has remained changes are very narrow. And then just to clarify on what Ron said in terms of penetration, there are about 10,000 surgeons in the U. S. Speaker 300:21:38Today, who do cataract surgery, we believe a few 1000, 2,000 to 3000 do the majority, maybe 70% of the total number. But we don't believe our total market is limited to those high volume practices, Because in fact, as we get more mature, obviously today, we're fishing where the fish are, but it also offers An opportunity for other surgeons to provide premium IOL, specifically the LAL to their patients with superior results and allow them to get in the market. Anything else, Rob? Speaker 200:22:21No. Any follow-up, Ravi? Speaker 400:22:23No. You answered it all. Appreciate taking the questions. Thanks a lot. Speaker 500:22:28Thank you. Operator00:22:30One moment for our next question. Thank you. Our next question comes from Steve Lichtman of Oppenheimer and Co Incorporated. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 600:22:46Thank you. Good evening, everyone. Beyond the top line, the other stand outlook to be on the gross margin side. So Couple of questions there. 1, what's driving the underlying gross margin benefit? Speaker 600:23:01Is it just mix or is there Something else afoot. And then secondly, Shelly, can you level set us on where you think we should be exiting the 4th quarter with the lower cost The system in place. Speaker 300:23:16Okay. Thank you, Steve. Yes, the gross margin has really Driven by a few things. One is, of course, mix, right, with the LAL substantially more profitable At the margin level than the LDD and that is something we see as a continuing trend. Costs have also gone down as we have increased the amount of production we have in the LAL as well. Speaker 300:23:46We do expect to see some nice margin expansion in the 4th quarter, but not much in the third relative to what we achieved in the first Q2 due to the fact that our reconfigured LDD will bear a higher gross margin and we think that will have benefit. So we should see some differential between the 3rd and the 4th quarters based upon not only mix, but as well as the introduction of our reconfigured LDD. Speaker 600:24:15Great. Thanks. And then just my follow-up, I guess, on the LDD number, real nice Sequential increase here and above our expectations. Can you talk to ASCRS and how coming out of that, Any tailwinds that you saw coming out of that conference where you did have a pretty big presence? And is that Part of what we're seeing here in this LDD number? Speaker 600:24:43Thanks. Speaker 200:24:46I agree. We had a very strong ASCRS and certainly that has helped us in Q2. I think it's generally consistent with increasing awareness about the light adjustable lens and That awareness drives interest on the parts of practices. So we see that as a trend that has Grown sequentially and we would hope that would continue to grow. Speaker 600:25:21Thanks, Ram. Thanks, Shadi. Operator00:25:30Thank you. Our next question comes from Ryan Zimmerman of BTIG. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 700:25:38Hey, good afternoon and congrats on a nice quarter. I want to ask just a couple of questions, Ron, more of a big picture question first. But As you've seen the uptake in the market here, I think when we talked earlier this quarter, It almost feels like your aspirations are expanding, your aperture is widening. And just as you see such good adoption, does it Change kind of how you view your commercial strategy in terms of not just the U. S. Speaker 700:26:10Market, but I guess the question kind of hints at aspirations beyond The U. S, Canada, maybe Mexico where some of the clinical trial cases were done. And what the opportunity may be internationally and if and when we could Speaker 200:26:27So as you know, Ryan, ophthalmology is really an international field. But the U. S. Traditionally has led in terms of especially in terms of the private pay markets. And so we're focused on fully developing the U. Speaker 200:26:48S. Market initially And we're that is our primary focus, but we do see significant opportunities outside the U. S. As well. And we'll as we have started in Canada, we'll continue to develop those with time. Speaker 200:27:09Okay. Operator00:27:09I think Speaker 300:27:10we might run specifically to Europe because of the CE Mark and kind of their the disarray relative to approvals. And so that does push off any kind of European opportunity for us, but we don't think that that's something we would have pulled the trigger on anyway given the opportunity in the U. S. Speaker 700:27:33Okay. I appreciate that incremental color, Shelly. And then the second question, one of the large Peers in the ophthalmic market reported earlier this earning season. So the health of the premium market has been weak. This is the 2nd quarter in a row they've said that, Yes, you continue to put up kind of, I think, really good results. Speaker 700:27:53And I'm curious if What your view is of the health of cataract market, given some of that commentary we've seen from some of your larger competitors? Speaker 200:28:08Well, the overall the cataract market continues to grow driven by demographics. And then within the overall cataract market, the premium market is still the main opportunity for practices to grow their revenue relative to continued reductions in reimbursement that they receive for cataract surgery and other reimbursed services. So we see the premium market as being A primary engine for growth in ophthalmology. And as you noted, We have seen our numbers continue to grow. Speaker 700:28:54Okay. I'll leave it there. Thanks. Operator00:28:58One moment for our next question. Thank you. Our next question comes from Larry Biegelsen of Wells Fargo. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 500:29:14Hi. This is Charles on for Larry. Can you hear me okay? Speaker 300:29:17Yes. Hi, Charles. Speaker 500:29:20Hi. First, congrats on the nice quarter. I want to follow-up a little bit. So on your newer lower cost LDD, so that was approved at Start of the year. Can you just refresh us, give an update where you guys are at preparing for the launch and building inventory? Speaker 500:29:37Last turn, it sounded like 2nd half launch, is that going to be a phased approach? And is there going to be any kind of limit by inventory availability there to talk about? Thanks. Speaker 200:29:50Thank you, Charles. So as you noted, the reconfigured LDD It was approved earlier in the year. It has the same functionality as our current LDD, Primarily, has will have its impact on the margin. And as Shelly noted, we're anticipating that to be primarily towards the end of the year. So That has really been our plan for the year and I don't see many changes there. Speaker 300:30:30To your question is supply chain. Supply chain is still tough, but it's continuing to improve. And one of our strategy is not to introduce the reconfigured LDD until we're certain that we have the finished Goods and stock as well as the supply chain has stabilized. And so that is part of our strategy and ensuring that we have Full availability for our customers. Speaker 500:31:02Okay, great. Thank you. Operator00:31:06One moment for our next question. Thank you. Our next question comes from Greg Bijou of B&A Securities. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 800:31:22Good afternoon. Sorry about earlier. I guess I missed my initial slot, but thanks for putting me on. I guess, I had two questions on competition. And I wanted to kind of see what you're seeing on the field level or the ground level and what you're hearing from docs anecdotally. Speaker 800:31:47I believe and it's a bit of a follow-up on a question that was asked before, but is it truly patient awareness? Is it the patient satisfaction, the results that the doctor is seeing? Is it the ability to potentially price at a premium to other competitive IOL premium IOLs. And then the second competition question is just anything That you guys know of or have heard or kind of worries you about some of the bigger players and the development of new lenses there? Speaker 200:32:26So I think all the things that you mentioned, Craig, are in play. Certainly, the awareness of the quality of the results that patients and doctors can Obtained with the light adjustable lens is an important factor. Once the system becomes available to doctors, then That allows them to offer it to more patients, more doctors in the practice. So I think all of these things are in play. And the ability to have a really strong ROI Is obviously a factor as well. Speaker 200:33:11And the doctors are pricing the technology at a level commensurate with the quality of the results that it produces. So all of those are important to growth. With respect to competition, again, The only we have the same visibility of the competition that everybody else does as far as we can tell. We don't see anything on the Horizon even in the near or midterm, there are some projects out there, But this is it's not an easy task to make a technology That delivers all the aspects of the light adjustable lens and it remains to be seen Whether and when somebody is going to be able to do that. And then Even when somebody enters, if they do, they'll be entering at a point When we'll already have introduced a whole slew of improvements to the technology in response to market requirements. Speaker 200:34:28So I think it's going to be a tough road for somebody to follow. Speaker 800:34:34Got it. That's helpful. Thanks, Ron. And maybe a Quick follow-up for Shelly. On the new LDD, And I guess it's part of longer term peak margins. Speaker 800:34:50But I guess my question is about How should we think about where you can bring peak gross margin? And how long does it take you to get to that level? Speaker 300:35:03So I think you're asking not specifically about the reconfigured LDD or are you talking about overall margins in the long run for the company. Speaker 800:35:14Yes, more overall margins. Shelly, I know you have been reluctant to provide some details. If you're willing to give detail, I'd love to hear it, but just overall margins for the company. Speaker 300:35:26Yes. And so with the reconfigured LDD and I think said this before, we expect to be able to stabilize that margin in the 20% to 30% range and we've been lower than that and hopefully more towards the high end as we Because we've got good volume in that product as well. Overall, really, if we think out long term, there's A big market, for LDD sales, but typical of razor razorblade companies, In the long run, we would expect probably 90% of our revenue to come from the LAL, and that is very price stable, has been so far because of the value it offers. And I would expect long range will be in the mid-eighty percent gross margin level, maybe even as high as 90%, but that remains to be seen. Speaker 800:36:23Great. Thanks and congrats on a strong quarter. Speaker 300:36:27Thank you. Operator00:36:29One moment for our next question. Thank you. Our next question comes from David Saxon of Needham and Co. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 500:36:44Yes. Hi, Ron. Hi, Shelly. Thanks for taking my questions and congrats on the quarter. Maybe to follow-up to one of Craig's questions, it's been 2 years since you've been public, you've been a little further along in the launch. Speaker 500:36:59So So I wanted to ask, are you seeing hearing the same areas of pushback from prospective docs as you were a few years ago? Or has the awareness and interest been established and it's just more of a question of getting out and engaging with the docs and placing LDDs? And also any color on kind of how the sales cycle has changed? Speaker 200:37:25Yes. Thank you, David. I think the same general interactions are going on. I think we have obviously a larger and more experienced commercial team and we have More experience that we can point to and that we can refer new practices or practices looking at our technology 2, so that they can get information not only from us, but by from other customers that might be like More like them. But so for example, we're unlike other In tracheal lenses, we have a piece of capital equipment, and that obviously has a cost to it. Speaker 200:38:17But Over the last several years, we've established that the ROI for that piece of capital is pretty quick In the 6 to 9 month on average and can be quite faster. And so That makes new practices coming on board more comfortable, but they still need to go through their So it's both Shelly and I have been in Similar business models before and I would say it never gets easy, but we've seen I think we have More answers for potential customers. Speaker 500:39:07Got it. Thanks for that, Ron. Maybe a A follow-up for Shelly, just on the operating expense guidance. I think it implies around 33% growth in the back half versus 20% growth we saw in the first half. So what's driving that? Speaker 500:39:25What investments are you making? Anything there would be helpful. Thanks so much. Speaker 300:39:32Thank you so much. Of course, I did mention the SOX expenses as well as The audit fees associated with SOX, you get most of that right at the end of the year. And also for the back end year, We add clinical applications, personnel and pace with our LDG sales. We add a few account managers and other people as We need to expand our marketing. And of course, by the 3rd Q4, you get that full impact of those additions as well during the year and that's what really drives the OpEx up as you exit the year. Speaker 800:40:12Great. Thank you. Operator00:40:17I'm showing no further questions at this time. And I would now like to turn the conference back to Ron Kurtz for closing remarks. Speaker 200:40:25Well, thank you all for your time and attention today. As always, we appreciate your interest in RX Sight and look forward to updating you on our progress in future quarters. Goodbye. Thanks. Operator00:40:37This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.Read morePowered by Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallRxSight Q2 202300:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2x Earnings DocumentsPress Release(8-K)Quarterly report(10-Q) RxSight Earnings HeadlinesPiper Sandler Initiates Coverage of RxSight (RXST) with Neutral RecommendationApril 16, 2025 | msn.comRxSight initiated with a Neutral at Piper SandlerApril 15, 2025 | markets.businessinsider.comNew “Trump” currency proposed in DCAccording to one of the most connected men in Washington… A surprising new bill was just introduced in Washington. 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It offers RxSight system that enables doctors to customize and enhance the visual acuity for patients after cataract surgery. The company's RxSight system includes RxSight Light Adjustable Lens, a special photosensitive material that changes shape and power. RxSight light delivery device, an office-based light treatment device that delivers UV light in a programmed pattern to modify the LAL based on the visual correction needed to achieve desired vision after cataract surgery. It primarily serves cataract doctors. The company was formerly known as Calhoun Vision, Inc. and changed its name to RxSight, Inc. in February 2017. 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There are 9 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Day and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the RxSight Second Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. After the speakers' presentation, there will be a question and answer Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your first speaker today, Alex Huang. Operator00:00:38Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:40Thank you, operator. Presenting today are RX Sight President and Chief Executive Officer, Doctor. Ron Kurtz and Chief Financial Officer, Shelly Tunan. Earlier today, RX Sight released financial results for the 3 6 months ended June 30, 2023. A copy of the press release is available on the company's website. Speaker 100:01:05Before we begin, I would like to inform you that comments and responses to questions During today's call reflect management's views as of today, August 7, 2023, and will include forward looking and opinion statements, including predictions, estimates, plans, expectations and other information. Actual results may differ materially from those expressed or implied as a result of certain risks and uncertainties. These risks and uncertainties are more fully described in our press release issued today and in our filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission or SEC. Our SEC filings can be found on our website or the SEC's website. Investors are cautioned not to place undue reliance on forward looking statements, and we disclaim any obligation to update or revise these forward looking statements. Speaker 100:02:02We will also discuss certain non GAAP financial measures. Disclosures regarding non GAAP financial measures, including reconciliations with the most comparable GAAP measures can be found in the press release. Please note that this conference call will be available for audio replay on our Investor website. With that, I will turn the call over to President and Chief Executive Officer, Doctor. Ron Kurtz. Speaker 200:02:29Good afternoon and thank you for joining us. Today, we report another strong quarterly performance for RX Sight, representing our 10th consecutive period of quarter over quarter top line growth and driven by higher key operating metrics. In addition, we have taken further steps to strengthen our financial position. I'll discuss the favorable trends underlying our business later in the call, But first, Shelly will review our Q2 2023 financial performance and recent balance sheet transactions. Speaker 300:03:01Thank you, Ron. Good afternoon, everyone. RXHITE generated Q2 2023 revenue of $20,800,000 up 83% compared to $11,400,000 in the year ago quarter and up 19% compared to the $17,500,000 in the Q1 of 2023. We sold 67 light delivery devices in the Q2 of 2023, up 37% compared to 49 units in the year ago period and up 20% compared to the 56 units in the Q1 of 2023. 2nd quarter 2023 LDD sales generated revenue of $7,700,000 up 36% 19% versus the Q2 of 2022 Q1 of 2023, respectively. Speaker 300:03:58As of June 30, 2023, our LDD installed base increased to 523 units, up 78% 15% versus the Q2 of 2022 and 1st quarter of 2023, respectively. We sold 12,622 LALs In the Q2 of 2023, up 134% 20% compared to the 5,400 units and 10,523 units in the same year ago quarter and Q1 of this year, respectively. 2nd quarter 2023 LAL unit sales generated $12,400,000 in revenue, up 132% 19% compared to the $5,300,000 $10,400,000 in the Q2 of 2020 2 and the Q1 of 2023, respectively. LAL revenue represented 60 percent of total revenue in the Q2 of 2023, up from 47% 59% in the Q2 of 2022 Q1 of 2023, respectively. Gross margin in the Q2 of 20 23 was 58% compared to 42% in the same year ago quarter and 59% in the Q1 of 2023. Speaker 300:05:29Recall that the Q1 2023 gross margin was favorably impacted by LDD material price decreases, Freight savings and improvements in other costs included in LAL cost of sales, so the slight sequential change is consistent with our expectations. SG and A expenses in the Q2 of 2023 were $18,200,000 up 27% versus $14,400,000 in the year ago quarter, reflecting increased expenses in sales and marketing personnel costs and travel and increased non cash stock based compensation in sales, marketing and G and A. On a sequential basis, SG and A expenses were up 12% due primarily to increased personnel costs from increased headcount and increased marketing costs. R and D expenses in the Q2 of 2023 rose 20% to $7,400,000 compared to $6,200,000 in the same year ago quarter and $7,200,000 in the Q1 of 2023. The change versus the year ago quarter was primarily due to increased clinical study costs and increased headcount. Speaker 300:06:48We reported GAAP net loss in the Q2 of 2023 of $13,800,000 or a loss of $0.40 per basic and diluted share using weighted average shares outstanding at 34,500,000 shares. This compares to a GAAP net loss of $16,700,000 or $0.61 per share on a basic and diluted basis in the same year ago quarter. Non cash stock based compensation and loss on extinguishment of debt in the Q2 of 2023 was $4,000,000 $362,000 respectively, resulting in a non GAAP loss of $9,500,000 or a loss of $0.28 per basic and diluted share. Please refer to the unaudited non GAAP reconciliation and disclosure included in today's press release for more comparative information. We ended the Q2 of 2023 with cash, cash equivalents and short term investments of $147,100,000 compared to $153,900,000 at March 31, 2023. Speaker 300:08:05The change in the cash balance includes proceeds From our at the market program or ATM, stock option exercises and employee stock purchase plan share issuances less the pay down of $20,000,000 in debt plus termination fees and cash used in operations. Excluding the proceeds from financing and capital activities and use of capital for principal debt repayments, Cash used in operating activities during the Q2 was $9,500,000 This compares to 16 point $5,000,000 in cash used in operating activities in the Q1 of 2023, which included annual bonus payouts and higher increases in accounts receivable and inventory relative to the Q2 of 2023. On our last conference call, we indicated that we expect sequential quarterly reductions in cash used from operations in 2023. However, we may see a tick up in the Q3 because our Q2 cash use from operations was lower than expected due primarily to improvements in accounts receivable turns and higher accounts payable and accrued expenses. During the Q2 of 2023, we continue to implement our ATM program designed to further strengthen our balance sheet, raising $19,400,000 net of fees through the sale of common shares. Speaker 300:09:37We use these proceeds to reduce our term loan debt by half to $20,000,000 And as noted in today's press release, we raised an additional $11,900,000 net of fees in July under the ATM and paid off our remaining $20,000,000 debt balance. Turning now to guidance. Based on our Q2 2023 performance, we are increasing our 2023 guidance range to $81,000,000 to $86,000,000 up from prior guidance of $79,000,000 to $84,000,000 Our new guidance implies a year over year growth rate of 65% to 75% and assumes a typical cataract seasonality pattern with the Q3 lighter due to summer vacation schedules. We are also revising our 2023 guidance range for gross margin to 58% to 60% versus prior guidance of 56% to 58%. The increase reflects Continuing favorable revenue mix of LAL sales along with improved gross margin from our reconfigured LDD, which we expect to begin shipping this year with the gross margin benefit largely in the 4th quarter. Speaker 300:10:56We are increasing our 2023 operating expense guidance to $106,000,000 to $109,000,000 an increase of $1,000,000 at the top and bottom of the range. The increase reflects consulting fees, additional headcount and expanded auditor fees relating to the implementation of Sarbanes Oxley. With the increase in our market cap in the second quarter, we became subject to Section 404B of the Sarbanes Oxley Act effective with our December 31, 2023 fiscal year end and 10 ks to be filed in February 2024. The 2023 OpEx guidance represents a 25% to 29% rise over 2022 and primarily reflects our continued investments to build a large durable postoperative light treatment infrastructure to support sustained long term LAL procedure growth. It also includes non cash stock based compensation expense of 15 to $16,000,000 Since late 2022, we have raised $102,500,000 Net of fees through our confidentially marketed public offering and ATM program paid off $40,000,000 in term loan debt and reduced our annual interest expense by approximately $5,600,000 We believe our cash and short term investment balances combined with no outstanding debt, strengthens our balance sheet and leaves us well positioned to achieve profitability from operations with a healthy balance sheet. Speaker 300:12:39With that, I'll turn the call back to Ron. Speaker 200:12:43Thank you, Shelly. Last week, we marked the 2nd anniversary of our IPO, and I'd like to use my time today to highlight the progress we've made to position RX-site for long term success. First, we substantially increased the size and scope of our commercial organization, which has done a remarkable job as evidenced by the 2 year growth trends in our business. Compared to the Q2 of 2021, revenue was up 325% and quarterly LDD unit sales are up by more than 160%. Our installed base is roughly 3 times the size it was 2 years ago and now extends into Canada. Speaker 200:13:24Over this same period, LAL unit sales are up almost 600% and currently accounts for the majority of our total revenue. As Shelly just summarized, we have also continued to strengthen our balance sheet and investor base, which we believe provides a strong foundation for continued execution of our growth strategy and sets us on a path for future operating profit. At the same time, We've added new institutional shareholders to our ownership base and experienced a fivefold increase in the average daily trading volume of our stock, which along with the rise in market capitalization has substantially increased the universe of institutions that consider that can consider a meaningful RXSight position. Driving our success since the IPO has been the outstanding performance of our light adjustable lens across a wide range of patient types and preferences. We focused our efforts these past 2 years on continually refining the LAL technology and the critical knowledge base to enable doctors to deliver the best possible experience and results for patients. Speaker 200:14:35The LAL stands apart from every other premium IOL in the market today because postoperative adjustability allows patients to achieve precise, High quality vision that they can test drive and customize to arrive at their unique desired visual outcome. The growing body of real world clinical data collected over the past 2 years underscores the LAL's ability to deliver Superior uncorrected binocular visual acuity with the vast majority of patients achieving excellent vision over a range of distances Without increases in visual side effects such as glare and halo or reductions in contrast vision, a combination of outcomes They are increasingly being prioritized by doctors and patients, but are difficult to achieve consistently with competing fixed power lenses. By appealing to a wide variety of standard and premium IOL patients, the LAL enables practices to achieve a rapid return on investment for the LDD and establish an important ongoing premium revenue stream that can be further leveraged as additional practitioners tap into an existing light treatment infrastructure. We believe this will continue to be an important factor in growing LAL utilization, which has been rising steadily over the past 2 years. In closing, we are pleased with the strides that the RX- that the RX-site team has made in collaborating with our customers and investors as a public company. Speaker 200:16:05While we are still in the early stages of adoption, the LAL is beginning to change the premium IOL landscape and fuel expansion of this high growth market. Through a continued focus on customer needs and the thoughtful execution of our growth strategy, we believe the LAL can ultimately occupy A leading position in the premium cataract market, delivering sustained long term value to all stakeholders. With that, I'll ask the operator to open the call for questions. Operator00:16:35Thank you. We will now conduct the question and answer session. Thank you. Our first question is from Craig Bijou of BofA Securities. Please proceed with your question. Operator00:17:28One moment for our next question. Thank you. Our next question comes from Robbie Marcus of JPMorgan. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 400:17:44Great. Thanks for taking the question and congrats on a nice quarter. Speaker 300:17:49Thank you, Rob. Speaker 400:17:51Maybe to start, this is the 3rd quarter in a row by my math where we're seeing a really nice tick up in utilization And lens per LDD in the quarter. I think starting in Q4 and now first and second, it's So pretty significant step up. So maybe just speak to some of the trends you're seeing. How broad based is this across the Portfolio, is it driven by a top percentage or is it more wholesome from top to bottom Across users. And then I'll turn my second question in as well. Speaker 400:18:29You've had another quarter of really nice LDD Placement, the installed base is now over 500. How are you thinking about where you Stan, in terms of penetration of LDDs versus the broader potential base? And is future growth going to coming more from LAL uptake or LDD placements? Thanks a lot. Speaker 200:18:57Thank you, Ravi. I'll start and Shelly can add in anything. So with respect to utilization, generally, we think that The increase in utilization has been broad based, and some of that is attributable to Existing customers who've continued to increase their utilization as they've Seeing the benefits of the technology as more doctors in the practice have access to the infrastructure that has already been established in those practices. And then also with new customers, both because the Characteristics of the light adjustable lens are more broadly known and so doctors are more confident in starting With more of a commitment to the technology starting with larger volumes. And then of course our team, which consists both of our sales team as well as our clinical trainers, As we have learned over the last several years, how to give practices the information for them to start more efficiently and to expand more efficiently. Speaker 200:20:21So I think all of those have been factors In the growth of LAL utilization and we would anticipate that those factors would continue. Anything to add there, Shelly? No. With respect to LDD Penetration, as you noted, we're above 500 now. We still think that's a fraction of the overall Possibility, in the U. Speaker 200:20:52S, there are Several 1,000 practices that do cataract surgery and we're still in a minority of those. So we still see room for growth on the LDD side as well. Speaker 300:21:11Yes. I would just add to clarify a little bit. One of the things that's been nice about our LDD sales as well is That we've had good discipline in terms of pricing, that the pricing and ASP for the LDD has remained changes are very narrow. And then just to clarify on what Ron said in terms of penetration, there are about 10,000 surgeons in the U. S. Speaker 300:21:38Today, who do cataract surgery, we believe a few 1000, 2,000 to 3000 do the majority, maybe 70% of the total number. But we don't believe our total market is limited to those high volume practices, Because in fact, as we get more mature, obviously today, we're fishing where the fish are, but it also offers An opportunity for other surgeons to provide premium IOL, specifically the LAL to their patients with superior results and allow them to get in the market. Anything else, Rob? Speaker 200:22:21No. Any follow-up, Ravi? Speaker 400:22:23No. You answered it all. Appreciate taking the questions. Thanks a lot. Speaker 500:22:28Thank you. Operator00:22:30One moment for our next question. Thank you. Our next question comes from Steve Lichtman of Oppenheimer and Co Incorporated. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 600:22:46Thank you. Good evening, everyone. Beyond the top line, the other stand outlook to be on the gross margin side. So Couple of questions there. 1, what's driving the underlying gross margin benefit? Speaker 600:23:01Is it just mix or is there Something else afoot. And then secondly, Shelly, can you level set us on where you think we should be exiting the 4th quarter with the lower cost The system in place. Speaker 300:23:16Okay. Thank you, Steve. Yes, the gross margin has really Driven by a few things. One is, of course, mix, right, with the LAL substantially more profitable At the margin level than the LDD and that is something we see as a continuing trend. Costs have also gone down as we have increased the amount of production we have in the LAL as well. Speaker 300:23:46We do expect to see some nice margin expansion in the 4th quarter, but not much in the third relative to what we achieved in the first Q2 due to the fact that our reconfigured LDD will bear a higher gross margin and we think that will have benefit. So we should see some differential between the 3rd and the 4th quarters based upon not only mix, but as well as the introduction of our reconfigured LDD. Speaker 600:24:15Great. Thanks. And then just my follow-up, I guess, on the LDD number, real nice Sequential increase here and above our expectations. Can you talk to ASCRS and how coming out of that, Any tailwinds that you saw coming out of that conference where you did have a pretty big presence? And is that Part of what we're seeing here in this LDD number? Speaker 600:24:43Thanks. Speaker 200:24:46I agree. We had a very strong ASCRS and certainly that has helped us in Q2. I think it's generally consistent with increasing awareness about the light adjustable lens and That awareness drives interest on the parts of practices. So we see that as a trend that has Grown sequentially and we would hope that would continue to grow. Speaker 600:25:21Thanks, Ram. Thanks, Shadi. Operator00:25:30Thank you. Our next question comes from Ryan Zimmerman of BTIG. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 700:25:38Hey, good afternoon and congrats on a nice quarter. I want to ask just a couple of questions, Ron, more of a big picture question first. But As you've seen the uptake in the market here, I think when we talked earlier this quarter, It almost feels like your aspirations are expanding, your aperture is widening. And just as you see such good adoption, does it Change kind of how you view your commercial strategy in terms of not just the U. S. Speaker 700:26:10Market, but I guess the question kind of hints at aspirations beyond The U. S, Canada, maybe Mexico where some of the clinical trial cases were done. And what the opportunity may be internationally and if and when we could Speaker 200:26:27So as you know, Ryan, ophthalmology is really an international field. But the U. S. Traditionally has led in terms of especially in terms of the private pay markets. And so we're focused on fully developing the U. Speaker 200:26:48S. Market initially And we're that is our primary focus, but we do see significant opportunities outside the U. S. As well. And we'll as we have started in Canada, we'll continue to develop those with time. Speaker 200:27:09Okay. Operator00:27:09I think Speaker 300:27:10we might run specifically to Europe because of the CE Mark and kind of their the disarray relative to approvals. And so that does push off any kind of European opportunity for us, but we don't think that that's something we would have pulled the trigger on anyway given the opportunity in the U. S. Speaker 700:27:33Okay. I appreciate that incremental color, Shelly. And then the second question, one of the large Peers in the ophthalmic market reported earlier this earning season. So the health of the premium market has been weak. This is the 2nd quarter in a row they've said that, Yes, you continue to put up kind of, I think, really good results. Speaker 700:27:53And I'm curious if What your view is of the health of cataract market, given some of that commentary we've seen from some of your larger competitors? Speaker 200:28:08Well, the overall the cataract market continues to grow driven by demographics. And then within the overall cataract market, the premium market is still the main opportunity for practices to grow their revenue relative to continued reductions in reimbursement that they receive for cataract surgery and other reimbursed services. So we see the premium market as being A primary engine for growth in ophthalmology. And as you noted, We have seen our numbers continue to grow. Speaker 700:28:54Okay. I'll leave it there. Thanks. Operator00:28:58One moment for our next question. Thank you. Our next question comes from Larry Biegelsen of Wells Fargo. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 500:29:14Hi. This is Charles on for Larry. Can you hear me okay? Speaker 300:29:17Yes. Hi, Charles. Speaker 500:29:20Hi. First, congrats on the nice quarter. I want to follow-up a little bit. So on your newer lower cost LDD, so that was approved at Start of the year. Can you just refresh us, give an update where you guys are at preparing for the launch and building inventory? Speaker 500:29:37Last turn, it sounded like 2nd half launch, is that going to be a phased approach? And is there going to be any kind of limit by inventory availability there to talk about? Thanks. Speaker 200:29:50Thank you, Charles. So as you noted, the reconfigured LDD It was approved earlier in the year. It has the same functionality as our current LDD, Primarily, has will have its impact on the margin. And as Shelly noted, we're anticipating that to be primarily towards the end of the year. So That has really been our plan for the year and I don't see many changes there. Speaker 300:30:30To your question is supply chain. Supply chain is still tough, but it's continuing to improve. And one of our strategy is not to introduce the reconfigured LDD until we're certain that we have the finished Goods and stock as well as the supply chain has stabilized. And so that is part of our strategy and ensuring that we have Full availability for our customers. Speaker 500:31:02Okay, great. Thank you. Operator00:31:06One moment for our next question. Thank you. Our next question comes from Greg Bijou of B&A Securities. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 800:31:22Good afternoon. Sorry about earlier. I guess I missed my initial slot, but thanks for putting me on. I guess, I had two questions on competition. And I wanted to kind of see what you're seeing on the field level or the ground level and what you're hearing from docs anecdotally. Speaker 800:31:47I believe and it's a bit of a follow-up on a question that was asked before, but is it truly patient awareness? Is it the patient satisfaction, the results that the doctor is seeing? Is it the ability to potentially price at a premium to other competitive IOL premium IOLs. And then the second competition question is just anything That you guys know of or have heard or kind of worries you about some of the bigger players and the development of new lenses there? Speaker 200:32:26So I think all the things that you mentioned, Craig, are in play. Certainly, the awareness of the quality of the results that patients and doctors can Obtained with the light adjustable lens is an important factor. Once the system becomes available to doctors, then That allows them to offer it to more patients, more doctors in the practice. So I think all of these things are in play. And the ability to have a really strong ROI Is obviously a factor as well. Speaker 200:33:11And the doctors are pricing the technology at a level commensurate with the quality of the results that it produces. So all of those are important to growth. With respect to competition, again, The only we have the same visibility of the competition that everybody else does as far as we can tell. We don't see anything on the Horizon even in the near or midterm, there are some projects out there, But this is it's not an easy task to make a technology That delivers all the aspects of the light adjustable lens and it remains to be seen Whether and when somebody is going to be able to do that. And then Even when somebody enters, if they do, they'll be entering at a point When we'll already have introduced a whole slew of improvements to the technology in response to market requirements. Speaker 200:34:28So I think it's going to be a tough road for somebody to follow. Speaker 800:34:34Got it. That's helpful. Thanks, Ron. And maybe a Quick follow-up for Shelly. On the new LDD, And I guess it's part of longer term peak margins. Speaker 800:34:50But I guess my question is about How should we think about where you can bring peak gross margin? And how long does it take you to get to that level? Speaker 300:35:03So I think you're asking not specifically about the reconfigured LDD or are you talking about overall margins in the long run for the company. Speaker 800:35:14Yes, more overall margins. Shelly, I know you have been reluctant to provide some details. If you're willing to give detail, I'd love to hear it, but just overall margins for the company. Speaker 300:35:26Yes. And so with the reconfigured LDD and I think said this before, we expect to be able to stabilize that margin in the 20% to 30% range and we've been lower than that and hopefully more towards the high end as we Because we've got good volume in that product as well. Overall, really, if we think out long term, there's A big market, for LDD sales, but typical of razor razorblade companies, In the long run, we would expect probably 90% of our revenue to come from the LAL, and that is very price stable, has been so far because of the value it offers. And I would expect long range will be in the mid-eighty percent gross margin level, maybe even as high as 90%, but that remains to be seen. Speaker 800:36:23Great. Thanks and congrats on a strong quarter. Speaker 300:36:27Thank you. Operator00:36:29One moment for our next question. Thank you. Our next question comes from David Saxon of Needham and Co. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 500:36:44Yes. Hi, Ron. Hi, Shelly. Thanks for taking my questions and congrats on the quarter. Maybe to follow-up to one of Craig's questions, it's been 2 years since you've been public, you've been a little further along in the launch. Speaker 500:36:59So So I wanted to ask, are you seeing hearing the same areas of pushback from prospective docs as you were a few years ago? Or has the awareness and interest been established and it's just more of a question of getting out and engaging with the docs and placing LDDs? And also any color on kind of how the sales cycle has changed? Speaker 200:37:25Yes. Thank you, David. I think the same general interactions are going on. I think we have obviously a larger and more experienced commercial team and we have More experience that we can point to and that we can refer new practices or practices looking at our technology 2, so that they can get information not only from us, but by from other customers that might be like More like them. But so for example, we're unlike other In tracheal lenses, we have a piece of capital equipment, and that obviously has a cost to it. Speaker 200:38:17But Over the last several years, we've established that the ROI for that piece of capital is pretty quick In the 6 to 9 month on average and can be quite faster. And so That makes new practices coming on board more comfortable, but they still need to go through their So it's both Shelly and I have been in Similar business models before and I would say it never gets easy, but we've seen I think we have More answers for potential customers. Speaker 500:39:07Got it. Thanks for that, Ron. Maybe a A follow-up for Shelly, just on the operating expense guidance. I think it implies around 33% growth in the back half versus 20% growth we saw in the first half. So what's driving that? Speaker 500:39:25What investments are you making? Anything there would be helpful. Thanks so much. Speaker 300:39:32Thank you so much. Of course, I did mention the SOX expenses as well as The audit fees associated with SOX, you get most of that right at the end of the year. And also for the back end year, We add clinical applications, personnel and pace with our LDG sales. We add a few account managers and other people as We need to expand our marketing. And of course, by the 3rd Q4, you get that full impact of those additions as well during the year and that's what really drives the OpEx up as you exit the year. Speaker 800:40:12Great. Thank you. Operator00:40:17I'm showing no further questions at this time. And I would now like to turn the conference back to Ron Kurtz for closing remarks. Speaker 200:40:25Well, thank you all for your time and attention today. As always, we appreciate your interest in RX Sight and look forward to updating you on our progress in future quarters. Goodbye. Thanks. Operator00:40:37This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.Read morePowered by