AirBoss of America Q2 2023 Earnings Call Transcript

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August 10, 2023

There are 6 speakers on the call.

Operator

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to the Second Quarter 2023 I would now like to turn the meeting over to Chris Bitsakakis, President and Co and CEO. Please go ahead, sir.

Speaker 1

Thank you, operator. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us for the Airbus 2nd quarter 2023 results conference call. My name is Chris Bitsakakis, President and Co CEO. For our agenda today, I will start with a review of the operational highlights for the quarter year, followed by Frank Antille, our CFO, who will discuss Financial results before we open the conference line to questions. Before we begin, I will remind listeners that our remarks today contain forward looking statements, Including our estimates of future developments.

Speaker 1

We invite listeners to review risk factors related to our business in our annual information form and our MD and A, both of which are available on SEDAR Plus or on our corporate website. Also, we will discuss certain non GAAP measures, including EBITDA. Reconciliations of these measures are available in our MD and A. And finally, please note that our reporting currency is in U. S.

Speaker 1

Dollars. References today will be in U. S. Dollars unless we indicate otherwise. I'll I'll start today by outlining our Q2 results and providing an overview of what we are seeing within our business segments as we move into the second half of twenty twenty three.

Speaker 1

In aggregate, our 3 business segments continued to focus on operational execution, growth initiatives and key investments throughout our business despite the current economic headwinds. Our consolidated sales levels and gross profit were higher than the Q2 of 2022, but a combination of elevated operating expenses and interest costs a negative impact on our profitability for Q2 this year. From a demand perspective, some of the improvements we saw exiting Q1 continued through to Q2, But customer volumes remain below those experienced in 2022 within our Airbus Rubber Solutions and Airbus Defense Group. Even as we saw a reduction in our profit as compared to Q2 of last year, we have posted strong free cash flow generation for the quarter and year to date in 2023, which has allowed us to continue investing in the business while also reducing our net debt levels, which have declined by over $14,500,000 to date in 2023. Turning now to our business segments.

Speaker 1

Looking specifically at ARS, we were active in 2022 making investments to improve our efficiency And expand the suite of compounds we supply to our customers and ARS posted record performance in 2022. For Q2 of 2023, ARS saw improvements in demand over the prior quarter this year, but volumes are still below Q2 of 2022 with decreased volumes largely due to decreased demand from tolling customers. And while we posted an 8.5% year over year decline in sales within ARS In Q2, we were pleased to see that our investments in Production Automation allowed us to successfully offset reduced sales volumes with improved margin contributions from this business segment. And as I mentioned earlier, the improvement from Q1 to Q2 of this year in volume was about 12%. ARS continues to apply its research and development expertise toward new collaborations with its customers and new products to add to its current range of solutions.

Speaker 1

And our long term priority for ARS remains focused on delivering growth through our position as a leading specialty supplier in North America, one with a valuable portfolio of specialty compounds Combined with strong production capabilities. For the balance of this year, ARS remains focused on replacing the volume gap from tolling customers with more advanced and more consistent non tolling volumes as we await a rebound in tolling volume. Looking at Engineered Products or AEP, This business segment continues to build on the momentum recently established with key suppliers and customers to deliver strong performance in Q2. Economic headwinds continue to impact the production schedules across certain OEMs and Tier 1 suppliers. But despite these influences, We saw higher year over year volumes in our SUV and light truck platforms, which supported solid net sales growth and gross profit contributions from AEP in the Q2.

Speaker 1

We continue to see opportunities to increase the contributions AEP can make to our financial results through 2023 and beyond through our focus on expanding our client relationships, developing new products and diversifying the sectors we operate in. Moving on to ADG, we announced in late July that due to delays in converting sales opportunities for our suite of survivability solutions, We made the strategic decision to implement a series of measures to reduce ABG's costs, streamline operations And reduce ADG's breakeven point metrics as we await new contract awards. Our focus during this process was to create a much closer alignment of the operating cost within ADG and its ongoing level of business activity. The cost saving measures are expected to result in approximately $5,000,000 in annual cost reductions once fully implemented. Through this process, it was also imperative for us to ensure that our ability to deliver against Current and future supplier agreements remain strong, which I also believe we have accomplished.

Speaker 1

The ADG survivability platform remains fully capable to execute against its current and future remains fully capable to execute against its current and future awards. As recent evidence of the capabilities of ADG's product portfolio, In early July, we announced new contracts for Airbus, molded glove and also our bandolier line chart system. These new contracts have an aggregate value of $22,000,000 and demonstrate the diversity of ADG's lineup of survivability solutions. Regarding M and A, We actively monitor our main markets for acquisitions that have the potential to build our portfolio of products or compounds, advance our technical capabilities And expand our geographic presence. Looking forward, we remain confident that our products along with our production execution capabilities continue to position us to deliver long term value for our shareholders.

Speaker 1

I will now pass the call over to Frank for the financial review.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Chris, and good morning, everyone. As a reminder, our dollar amounts presented today are in U. S. Dollars except for dividends per share, which are in Canadian dollars. Percentage changes compare Q2 2023 to Q2 of 2022 unless otherwise noted.

Speaker 2

Starting from the top line, consolidated Q2 net sales were $114,000,000 which were 3.2% higher than Q2 of last year With a strong increase in Airbus Engineered Products, more than offsetting a decline in sales within Airbus Rubber Solutions during the quarter, ADG's net sales were relatively flat to Q2 of 2022. Consolidated gross profit increased to 17,600,000 Which was 18.8% higher than our gross profit in Q2 of 2022. As a percentage of sales, our gross margin contribution was 15 0.4%, which was 200 basis points above our gross margin contributions in Q2 of last year. Improved volumes within AEP were a significant contributor To our gross margins, as well as a strong gross margin percentage within ARS despite lower sales levels compared to last year. These gains were partially offset by lower gross margin within ADG primarily due to an unfavorable product mix.

Speaker 2

Q2 Adjusted EBITDA decreased to $5,200,000 impacted primarily by higher general and administrative costs as a percentage of sales. Quarterly loss was $2,600,000 or negative $0.10 per diluted share compared to $2,500,000 or 0 point 0 $9 per diluted share in Q2 of Turning now to our individual segments. ADG's net sales increased 0.6 percent to 26,000,000 With the increase primarily due to increased deliveries of certain molded defense products, gross profit at ADG decreased to 4,200,000 With the decrease driven by an unfavorable product mix and higher overhead costs, net sales at Airbus Rubber Solutions decreased 8.5% to $57,800,000 driven by reduced volumes across many of our end use markets. Gross profit at ARS decreased to 1.7 percent to $9,600,000 due to volume reductions and product mix. Q2 2023 gross profit as a percentage of sales was 16.7%, which was an improvement over the 15.5% margin posted in Q2 of 2022.

Speaker 2

Net sales in the Engineered Products segment increased by 40.3 percent to $37,700,000 due to higher volumes and favorable mix in the SUV and light truck platforms. Gross profit at AEP increased by 8.5 Gross profit at AEP increased by $8,500,000 over Q2 of 2022 to $3,700,000 And this was due To improve the arrangements with our key suppliers and customers, volume improvements for certain vehicle platforms and product mix along with our ongoing cost management efforts. Free cash flow for Q2 was an inflow of $14,500,000 which supported our continued investment in capital assets and further reductions of our debt. CapEx was $2,400,000 in Q2 of 2023 and we reduced our net debt balance by 10,600,000 We continue to ensure we maintain sufficient liquidity to fund the growth of our business. Our revolving credit facility availability is $250,000,000 with an accordion of 75,000,000 And approximately $116,000,000 was drawn at the end of Q2.

Speaker 2

As of the end of the quarter, we had net debt of 95,000,000 for a net leverage ratio of 3.11 times trailing 12 months adjusted EBITDA. With that, I will now turn the call over to Chris.

Speaker 1

Thank you, Frank. Marie, at this point, we can open up the line for

Speaker 3

Q and A. Thank you.

Operator

We will now take questions from the telephone Thank you for your patience. The first question is from Kevin Chang from CIBC. Please go ahead. Your line is now open.

Speaker 4

Hi, good morning. Thanks for taking my question here. Maybe just on the volume trends you're seeing within ARS. I'd be interested in knowing just kind of how that progressed Through the Q2, I guess, here as we're in the middle of the Q3, are you seeing signs that I guess the sales pressure has troughed or are you still seeing sales trying to find a bottom here as we progress through the second half of this year? Yes.

Speaker 1

Good morning, Kevin. We saw a in terms of volume, we saw a 12 Increase in volume from Q1 to Q2. What we saw in about December of last year was a significant drop in our tooling volumes And some kind of residual softness around some of our other customers. And but the really big driver was the Towing volume that drove it down. We saw that continue into Q1.

Speaker 1

However, we've been successful in Being able to bring on new non tooling customers for Q2, which brought us our 12% increase in volume for Q1. And we have lots of plans in place for Q3. We're bringing on new customers as we speak and into Q4. And this is a sort of a strategy we've had for a while To be a little less reliant on these tolling volumes. And because of the way I know you cover the transportation and automotive sector, The big tire companies, which are predominantly where a lot of the tolling volume comes from, a lot of their volume is related to truck tires.

Speaker 1

And when you see freight rates start to drop and trucking sort of start to drop a little bit, you see a lower demand in truck tires, which we think is what's driving that tolling volume decrease because what happens is it then opens up capacity in their own internal mixing, which then gets then they look at Bringing outside mixing in. Now with several of these tolling customers, we have specialty compounds with them that don't go in and out. But the overflow that does come out, as soon as there's a little bit of a decline, particularly in truck tires, then you see that volume go back Into their own mix and capacity, which is why for years we've sort of had a plan in place to make us less reliant on tolling volumes because when they're here, Great, because it eats up capacity and works well for us. But at the same time, it gets kind of lumpy at times. So, it's accelerated our strategy a little bit.

Speaker 1

It's allowed us to utilize the investments that we've made in research and development So that we can develop new compounds, attract new non tolling customers, more specialty customers as well And bring them in for a much more stable volume, which is what you're probably going to see for the balance of this year.

Speaker 4

That makes sense. And just as you think about growing the non tolling volumes, it sounds like you've been you continue to be successful And grabbing market share, I guess I'd be interested in understanding what exactly I guess what's the value proposition that you're putting forward here as you grab some of that market share? Is it the mixing capabilities, some of the R and D you've done? Is it price? Is it just having that excess capacity?

Speaker 4

So maybe service is better. Just wondering What that value proposition that you're bringing to the table to drive some of that market share shift?

Speaker 1

Yes. Our value proposition has always been the same. It's not really Price driven value proposition, at least not a from our perspective, a sale price. We've really invested in research and development. We have the, I think the best R and D team and R and D facilities in North America for custom compounding.

Speaker 1

And we're able to utilize those assets To develop new compounds that can solve problems for our customers. And quite often, some of the problems that we solve make them more efficient, which in the end for them is a Cost save, but it's not a strategy that we're going to go in and take a compound and just drop the price and create a price war with our competitors. That's not the intention. The intention is to use technology, innovation and the value equation of our higher end equipment, Our more consistent mixing and our high quality to be able to still command a better margin, But solve problems for our customers so that their end cost is actually lower.

Speaker 4

That makes sense. And then maybe just last one for me. I mean, obviously, you're probably seeing all the headlines With the union negotiations with the big three auto, just wondering, I guess, from your perspective, if you're taking Any contingency plans now? Are you seeing anything from the OEMs themselves in terms of maybe ramping up Capacity to build inventory in the event that there's a labor disruption. Just wondering what you're seeing within AEP as, I guess as the industry potentially faces this existential risk?

Speaker 1

Yes. We are seeing certain Product line, certain vehicle lines that are working a little bit over time, but we're not seeing this sort of massive buildup of inventory From the customers. And I'm sure you could probably answer that question even better than me. Of course, we're concerned about it. We hear the rhetoric and the rhetoric seems to be quite aggressive and the demand is quite aggressive.

Speaker 1

And from our perspective, because most of our products are on light truck and SUV, Those are the most valuable sort of product lines for our customers as well. So I suspect that they're going to defend Their ability to keep producing those products and we'll negotiate in good faith. And at this point, we're hopeful That they can find a resolution. But in terms of a crystal ball, I'm not seeing any sort of panic from the customers where They're ordering way ahead or anything like that. So I'm assuming that they have a strategy in place that they feel could work.

Speaker 4

That makes sense. I'll leave it there. Thank you for taking my questions.

Speaker 2

Thank you.

Speaker 3

Thank you.

Operator

The next question is from Tim James from TD Cowen. Please go ahead. Your line is now open.

Speaker 3

Thanks very much and good morning. Just staying with AEP for a moment. I think the indications, If you will, from the Q1 call, we're for revenues there to kind of head towards that 2019 level, I think it was sort of in and around $125,000,000 The company has reported $77,000,000 through the first half of the year, implying obviously much less than that in the second half. Is there kind of an update to that full year Indication that we should have for AEP revenue? And if so, what has changed?

Speaker 2

Hi, Tim. It's Frank. Thanks for asking. I think Q2 is now a more reflective Run rate of what we're going to see and still in line of sort of what we had indicated as it related to 2019, obviously, with Top line being maybe a little bit heavier, but the margin profile, as we've mentioned previously, in the low double digits with EBITDA in sort of the mid to high single digits It's sort of where we're looking to land. Keeping in mind that there were some other adjustments and things that took place in Q1 and obviously what happened also in Q4 of 2022, which really sort of maybe distorted the figures.

Speaker 2

But going forward, I think this is more of sort of a landing and run rate moving forward.

Speaker 3

Okay. That's helpful, Frank. Thank you. Then I'm just wondering if it's Possible, Chris, to get into any more detail on the cost savings initiatives in AGG. You've outlined kind of $5,000,000 Annually, I assume that's primarily kind of operating costs, excluding any D and A.

Speaker 3

How long will it take you to implement Those cost savings initiatives and when should we kind of see them hit a full rate benefit?

Speaker 1

Tim, the majority of those savings have already been executed on. There are some small amounts of non critical items that still need to get tidied up. But for the purpose of this question, everything will be completed in Q3.

Speaker 3

Okay. So we can expect or should think about sort of a $5,000,000 annualized reduction in the operating costs In ADG then effectively as of kind of Q4 is pretty reasonable.

Speaker 1

Yes, that's correct. And we were quite Surgical and what we did there to make sure that with this continued pipeline of opportunities that we still expect Not to be not to kind of handcuff ourselves in a way that we can't execute appropriately on them. So I think the team did a good job in lowering the breakeven point, while still retaining the capabilities To execute on the new awards.

Speaker 3

Okay. Thank you. Then same with the Fence, I'm just wondering if you could provide A bit of an update on there were a number of kind of Husky awards that the company has received recently. There was a 10 vehicle contract, a 3 vehicle for a West African customer. And Then I believe there were some spares and parts from a contract a couple of years ago.

Speaker 3

How much of these Contracts, is it possible to sort of give us a rough idea of the contribution from Husky related revenues in the quarter? And if you can just update us on the status Those contracts?

Speaker 2

Yes, Tim, on the financial part, I could say from what we'd announced, roughly 25% Of that Husky award was delivered in the quarter. Obviously, there's still more to go through the rest of this year and beyond From what we had announced

Speaker 1

previously. Sorry, Frank, 25% of which one, the combination of the 10 vehicles? Correct. So the 10 vehicle 1? Correct.

Speaker 3

Okay.

Speaker 1

And The 3 vehicles, the 3 were delivered jointly.

Speaker 5

Yes. So I don't know if

Speaker 1

you got caught up, but 3 of the vehicles were delivered in Q2, Tim.

Speaker 3

Okay. And then approximately 25% of the 10 vehicle 1 was also recorded. That right?

Speaker 1

No. No. So that was a bit of a misunderstanding, I think. Out of the 13 vehicles, 3 of them were delivered in Q2.

Speaker 3

Okay. Is there any the contract from I can't remember whether it was 'twenty one or 'twenty, some spares and parts that was going to run for a fairly prolonged period. Is that generating any revenue today? Or is that What's the status of that piece of business?

Speaker 2

Yes, Tim, that contract extension is Still in play, but again nothing has come to fruition at this time. But we're obviously staying close to them And available to support demand as we move forward. Okay. Thank you.

Speaker 3

Okay. Those were all the questions that I had. Thank you very much.

Speaker 2

Excellent. Thank you.

Operator

Thank We have a question from Adam McBain from

Speaker 3

I'm filling in for David Ocampo. Good morning. Good morning. When I look at leverage, as you pointed out, I see it's at 3.1 turns versus 2.4 turns at the end of last fiscal year. It's my understanding that you have a couple of financial covenants in there, but specifically one capping max leverage.

Speaker 3

You just remind us how much room you have under that covenant? How you're thinking about the balance sheet in that context? Maybe share with us Some of the levers that you have available in order to stay on side?

Speaker 2

Yes, Adam. As it relates To our covenants, we're obviously very focused on liquidity and delivering as you saw the generation of free cash for the quarter. So as a result of our actions as it related to converting AR, Reducing our inventory and obviously supporting our cash conversion cycle, we're very comfortable that we're still obviously within our limits And we are very proactive with our bank syndicate as well, always to make sure that we're on-site and that we're working towards delivering. And as we've said before, part of our process here is to really stay on top of our cash collection. But also as we landed and announced some of the new deals as EBITDA comes in, that's going to help support us on the consolidated net debt ratio.

Speaker 2

And the other one is on the consolidated interest expense ratio, which interest is going up. So we're obviously monitoring it closely and we've As disclosed in our financial statements entered into several interest rate swaps to help reduce and mitigate some of that interest expense, Again, being very proactive in how we're managing the leverage going forward. So we don't anticipate any issues through the end of this year and continue to focus as we forecast out into 2024 as well.

Speaker 3

Great. Thank you. That's helpful. Great. Thank you.

Speaker 3

I don't have any more questions, so I'll turn it back in queue.

Operator

Thank you. The next question is from Ahmed Abdullah from National Bank. Please go ahead. Your line is now open.

Speaker 5

Yes. Thanks for taking my question. Looking at where the stock sits right now and the dividend yield, is there a Yield target or a payout target that you guys are considering for maybe freeing up some liquidity?

Speaker 2

That's a good question, Amit. I mean, I don't think we have a specific target in mind. We're very focused obviously on managing our cash flow as mentioned previously. We're also very focused on returning to our Shareholders and very committed to that as well. So I think we're just being very cautious as we move forward.

Speaker 2

But at this point, we're proceeding as is From that perspective, but staying the course, understanding that there has been some challenges on the share price recently.

Speaker 5

Okay, that's fair. And with the loss on the ADT EBITDA, Higher margin business was not able to offset some of the weakness that's there given that you got the 3 vehicles out of the 13?

Speaker 2

Yes, Amit, there was some additional costs and charges that flowed through ADG in the quarter as noted in the financial statement Note 5 Related to inventory. So part of our quarterly review of inventory aging, so there was some additional obsolescence that was booked that obviously offset some of that. And that's just normal course as we go through our business. So we're obviously very focused on that as well.

Speaker 5

Okay, that's helpful. That's it for me. Thank you very much.

Operator

Thank you. There are no further questions at this time. I would like to turn back the meeting over to Mr. Zekauskas.

Speaker 1

Thank you, operator. This concludes our question and answer period. Thanks everyone for attending today's call. Please feel free to reach out to us directly or through our Investor Relations team if you have any questions on our results or anything in general. Thank you and have a great day.

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