NYSE:AVNS Avanos Medical Q2 2023 Earnings Report $12.06 +0.03 (+0.25%) As of 03:58 PM Eastern Earnings HistoryForecast Avanos Medical EPS ResultsActual EPS$0.24Consensus EPS $0.34Beat/MissMissed by -$0.10One Year Ago EPS$0.41Avanos Medical Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$169.40 millionExpected Revenue$186.30 millionBeat/MissMissed by -$16.90 millionYoY Revenue Growth-16.60%Avanos Medical Announcement DetailsQuarterQ2 2023Date8/9/2023TimeBefore Market OpensConference Call DateWednesday, August 9, 2023Conference Call Time9:00AM ETUpcoming EarningsAvanos Medical's Q1 2025 earnings is scheduled for Thursday, May 1, 2025, with a conference call scheduled at 9:00 AM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Q1 2025 Earnings ReportConference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Avanos Medical Q2 2023 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrAugust 9, 2023 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 8 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Please note, today's call is being recorded. At this time, I'd like to hand the floor over to Avanos' CEO, Joe Woody. Speaker 100:00:09Good morning, everyone. This is Joe Woody. We've asked the New York Stock Exchange and they agreed to halt our trading as our results were inaccurately reported by one news outlet and possibly more. Our total results inclusive of respiratory health were 199 $8,000,000 in revenue and we delivered $0.37 of EPS. Throughout the day to day, we're going to work with the various agencies and news outlets to correct the information. Speaker 100:00:37Now I'm going to turn the call over to Scott Galvin to begin our prepared remarks. Thank you. Speaker 200:00:44Good morning, everyone, and thanks for joining us. It's my pleasure to welcome you to Avanos' 2023 Q2 earnings conference call. Presenting today will be Joe Woody, CEO and Michael Greiner, Senior Vice President, CFO and Chief Transformation Officer. Joe will review our Q2 and expectations for the remainder of 2023 as well as provide further insights around the strategy we laid out at our Investor Day in June. Mike will provide additional detail regarding these topics and provide an update of our 2023 planning assumptions given our Respiratory Health business discontinued operations. Speaker 200:01:19We will finish the call with Q and A. A presentation for today's call is available on the Investors section of our website, avanos.com. As a reminder, our comments today contain forward looking statements related to the company, our expected performance, current economic conditions and our industry. No assurance can be given as to future financial results. Actual results could differ materially from those in the forward looking statements. Speaker 200:01:46For more information about forward looking statements and the risk factors that could influence future results, please see today's press release and risk factors described in our filings with the SEC. Additionally, we will be referring to adjusted results and outlook. The press release has information on these adjustments and reconciliations to comparable GAAP financial measures. Now I'll turn the call over to Joe. Speaker 100:02:09Thanks, Scott. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us to review our operational and financial results for the Q2 of 2023. We are pleased with our Q2. We noted in our year end earnings call and reiterated at our Investor Day in June, our quarterly results for 2023 would be uneven given the timing uncertainties Associated with our transformation plan, which included some of the transactions we announced just prior to our Investor Day. The demand for our products remains strong and although supply chain disruptions have lessened, we continue to experience ongoing Product supply challenges and the effects of inflation throughout our supply chain. Speaker 100:02:50Coming into the year, we anticipated that 2023 will continue to present supply chain headwinds Pockets of product availability challenges, but that many of these headwinds would ease as we reached the back half of the year. We still believe this to be the case with our anticipated year end back order levels to be around $3,000,000 down from over $10,000,000 at the beginning of the year. As always, our primary focus is on getting patients back to the things that matter as we meet the needs of our customers. Speaker 300:03:21For the Speaker 100:03:21quarter, we achieved sales of $169,000,000 from continuing operations or down approximately 1% compared to last year. Excluding both the negative impact of foreign exchange and the $5,000,000 impact related to our previously announced decision eliminate revenue that was not meeting our returns criteria, organic growth was favorable 2.6% for the quarter. We also generated $0.24 of adjusted diluted earnings per share and almost $23,000,000 of adjusted EBITDA From continuing operations during the quarter, while our adjusted gross margin was almost 60% and our SG and A as a percentage of revenue was 45.1%. Actual sales for the quarter inclusive of our respiratory health business was $200,000,000 or 2.5% growth, Also excluding the adjusted revenue items I just referenced, SG and A as a percentage of revenue was 40% Supporting an adjusted EBITDA margin of almost 16% for the quarter. Now I'll spend the next few minutes discussing our results at the product category level. Speaker 100:04:27On a constant currency basis, our Digestive Health portfolio grew almost 17% bolstered by our NeoMed product line, which posted another strong quarter versus the prior year as we continue to take advantage of the demand for ENFit conversions in North America. Our legacy enteral feeding product line grew double digits globally primarily driven by the continued expansion of our U. S. CoreTrax standard of care offering. As noted during Investor Day, we continue to deliver above market growth and leadership in our core digestive health markets and our This momentum through innovations that we plan to launch over the next 12 months, expansion into high potential global markets And actionable M and A targets in large attractive adjacencies. Speaker 100:05:15Turning to our pain management and recovery portfolio, Actual reported sales were down close to 11% for the quarter with soft results across our Interventional Pain, Game Ready and 5 Shot product categories, each which were down at least 5% versus the prior year. Separately, our surgical pain pump business was flat for the quarter Excluding the negative impact of foreign exchange and low growth, low margin products, we are no longer selling in this category. As I shared earlier, we continue to experience supply headwinds within these businesses. Although we expect these headwinds to ease during the second half of this year, Alleviating the supply chain challenges is critical to supporting our pain management and recovery portfolio sales lift in the second half of the year. Finally, our portfolio experienced a weaker than expected first half. Speaker 100:06:07However, this softness was primarily concentrated in our 5 Shot or Genvisc products. 5 shot market has specific pricing and competitive dynamics that are not as prevalent within the 3 shot market. TriVisc, our 3 shot offering Continues to align with our overarching orthopedic call point strategy and is largely meeting our internal performance expectations. We expect volatility will continue to be a factor in both of these markets for the next several quarters as we face strong 2022 comparables and continue to experience The related swings from entering the ASP reporting environment in Q3 2022. Despite this volatility, we believe we have the right strategies in place to capitalize on our opportunities. Speaker 100:06:54Our pain management and recovery business results have not met our expectations over the last year. However, we are confident in our new strategy outlined during Investor Day. This strategy connects our pain brands across the patient lifecycle and sets the stage for sustainable mid single digit growth as we enter 2024 With gross margins exceeding 60%. Our investments in the pain management and recovery business will be very selective over the short to midterm as we focus on includes some of the initiatives that I just described. As we originally outlined in the beginning of the year and further highlighted in June during Investor Day, We have 4 key priorities for the next 3 years that will optimize our go to market opportunities and meaningfully enhance our financial profile. Speaker 100:07:47These priorities include strategically and commercially optimizing our organization, Transforming our portfolio to focus on categories where we have attractive margin profiles and the right to win, Taking additional cost management measures to enhance operating profitability and continuing our path of efficient capital allocation to meaningfully improve Our ROIC. We continue to execute well against these priorities as evidenced by our recent divestiture and acquisition activity, Implementation of our new go to market strategy for our pain management and recovery business, margin improvement, additional portfolio optimization decisions And delivery on our transformation program expense savings. In addition, our Board has recently approved a $25,000,000 share repurchase program. This will not impact our ability to continue to execute our tuck in acquisition strategy, but rather provides us flexibility to allocate capital towards Repurchasing shares that we believe are meaningfully undervalued versus our internally calculated intrinsic value. Finally, I'd like to thank everyone who participated in our Investor Day on June 20th and the subsequent feedback we received from many of you. Speaker 100:09:03Now I'll turn the call over to Michael who continues to lead these efforts in his expanded role as Chief Transformation Officer and will further discuss our Q2 financial results. Speaker 400:09:14Thanks, Joe. Before providing color on our discontinued operations reporting related to the sale of our Respiratory Health business, I'll first provide additional color and detail around our consolidated second quarter results. Total reported sales for the 2nd quarter on an actuals basis was $199,800,000 an increase of 2.5% excluding the negative impact of foreign exchange and the impact of low margin and low growth products have ceased selling. From a continuing operations standpoint, net sales were 169,400,000 Adjusted gross margins were 59.9 percent and adjusted net income for the quarter totaled $11,000,000 translating to $0.24 of adjusted diluted earnings per share. Adjusted EBITDA for the quarter was $23,000,000 in line with prior year. Speaker 400:10:04Separately, we ended the quarter with $82,000,000 of cash on hand And a leverage ratio of less than 1. Looking at our total results, including respiratory health, Gross margin for the quarter was 56.7 percent or 2 70 basis points lower than prior year, primarily driven by the unfavorable impact of the Mexican peso as well as unfavorable product mix impacts mostly related to softness in our portfolio. Sequentially, gross margin improved by 30 basis points. Separately, SG and A as a percentage of revenue improved by 60 basis points versus the prior year And 160 basis points sequentially, primarily related to our cost savings efforts to streamline the organization And reduce our external spend profile. Adjusted diluted earnings per share were $0.37 And adjusted EBITDA totaled $31,800,000 or 15.9%. Speaker 400:11:03Now Focusing on our continuing operations results, adjusted gross margin for the quarter was 59.9%, which reflects the benefits of our portfolio optimization SG and A as a percentage of revenue was 45.1%, an improvement of 100 basis points versus the prior year And a sequential improvement of 280 basis points. We anticipate SG and A as a percentage of revenue to be approximately 43% to 44% For the full year from a continuing operations standpoint, with substantial improvement in 2024, ultimately leading to our 2025 goal between 38% to 39 Percent. Adjusted diluted earnings per share were $0.24 versus $0.26 a year ago With adjusted EBITDA margin of 13.5% compared to 13.4% in 2022. For the 1st 6 months of 2023, the impact of discontinued operations totaled $19,000,000 of EBITDA reduction. We anticipate the full year impact to be approximately $40,000,000 which also is directionally representative of the annual The stranded cost impact for the RH divestiture. Speaker 400:12:16These stranded costs include allocations from shared service functions, Shipping and freight dis synergies and loss of scale in our international operations, among other fixed costs. Through 2024, we will offset a portion of these stranded costs via our transition services agreements with AirLife. Additionally, we are accelerating and expanding our existing cost reduction program to mitigate the majority of the remaining stranded costs, Expecting approximately $30,000,000 incremental cost reduction by the end of 2025, leaving an estimated $10,000,000 to $15,000,000 of go forward dis synergies. Future M and A, of course, would enable additional stranded cost absorption. As a result of the respiratory health divestiture, which we anticipate will close early in Q4, we expect adjusted diluted EPS between $1.05 $1.15 for the year with gross margins around 60% and adjusted EBITDA margins of approximately 15%, Including the current year impact of the approximately $17,000,000 annualized impact of product portfolio rationalization that we previously discussed, Company anticipates comparable organic revenue growth to be low single digits for the year. Speaker 400:13:36As previously communicated, The cost management aspects of our transformation program will total between $45,000,000 $55,000,000 of gross savings by 2025. We now anticipate approximately $20,000,000 of those savings in 2023 with the majority of the remainder to be executed in 2024. These savings do not contemplate the elimination of the stranded costs that I just described, which will be addressed separately. Our preliminary view for 2024 anticipates that we will deliver mid single digit revenue growth across our portfolio With adjusted gross margins of approximately 60%. Separately, we expect to reduce SG and A as a percentage of sales to 40% to 42% As a result of our cost takeout efforts and anticipate generating adjusted EBITDA of between $120,000,000 $140,000,000 These ranges will be negatively or positively impacted by our ability to accelerate our pain growth story and our cost management efforts. Speaker 400:14:38With regards to free cash flow, we now anticipate annual free cash flow of approximately $60,000,000 As a result of higher interest and tax payments and weaker than anticipated performance in our pain management and recovery portfolio. This estimate also excludes onetime restructuring costs for this year. We remain confident in our ability to deliver Approximately $100,000,000 of free cash flow for 2025 and this assumes $25,000,000 in tax payments, $20,000,000 in capital expenditures and $15,000,000 in interest payments. In closing, we will continue to execute on each of our transformation priorities and have a laser focus on both the digestive health and Management and Recovery Business Strategies. We believe that execution of these portfolio strategies combined with our other transformation priorities We'll support delivering mid single digit organic revenue growth, gross margins exceeding 60%, adjusted EBITDA margins greater than 20%, And free cash flow generation of approximately $100,000,000 that I just shared. Speaker 400:15:50Finally, we will remain prudent stewards of our balance sheet, Pursuing margin accretive tuck in acquisitions and opportunistic share repurchases. Operator, please open the line for questions. Operator00:16:05Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. Today's first question comes from Rick Wise with Stifel. Please go ahead. Speaker 500:16:36Good morning, Joe. Hi, Mike. Thanks for all the detail and the clarity. And a lot to absorb and think through, but you gave us a lot of Good data. I want to start off just Michael, you said it very clearly and giving us First look at 2024 that pain growth acceleration or reacceleration, Cost reduction are the 2 critical pillars, if I understood your words, correct me if I'm wrong, to achieving that growth. Speaker 500:17:15Maybe take us through I'm going to guess cost reduction is more in your control. Just give us even more detail about Why you're confident that you can achieve your goals and some of the specific actions we can understand that. And maybe just I'm just looking at your Slide 7 where you talk about the pain portfolio being challenged. If you'd be so kind, take us through each piece and help us understand your action plan That's going to you wouldn't say it if you didn't have a plan and didn't believe it, I'm confident. That's going to help us More credibly understand and believe that pain growth can reaccelerate in 2024. Speaker 600:18:01And Speaker 500:18:01that's sort of my first and second question. Speaker 400:18:06Thanks Rick. And I'll turn it over to Joe in a second to talk about the pain strategic approach And tie that back to what we shared on Investor Day and why we are confident in our ability to execute mid single digit next year. What I was trying to convey on the EBITDA and the cost and the pain growth, $120,000,000 to $140,000,000 is our current Preliminary early view of 2024. The lower end of that range would mean we didn't execute as well as we wanted to on the pain growth And or the cost management efforts, which I agree are in our control, maybe we're a little bit slower. Maybe there were some things that occurred through the transition agreements that had us distracted for a short period of time in the early half of the year. Speaker 400:18:52So we had to get at some of those cost management efforts in the back half of twenty twenty four. So these 2025 targets, We feel really good about because 1, we have programs in place like you just described and the 2024 range, we feel really good about. But whether we're at 120 or 140 will be entirely dependent upon our ability to grow mid single digits in the pain category, which Joe will talk about in a minute, And the quickness at which we get at these cost management programs. Those programs will happen, Rick. It's just can we get it done in March or do we get them done in July? Speaker 100:19:27And Rick, this is Joe Woody. Just to kind of pick up on the pain growth for 2024. I mean, if you think about this quarter, the company, Either way, we're about sort of 2.5 ish percent organic growth when you remove all the noise. And what we've said is we've unfortunately continued in IVP in acute pain with pretty significant supply chain issues. This is before we talk about the new initiatives. Speaker 100:19:52So we're almost sort of Without those kind of at a 4 ish or 5 ish type of growth as a overall Avanos in the new Avanos go forward, the continued operations if you look at it That way. The other thing I would say is we're very confident in bringing DYROS in and that's going to give us an opportunity to play in the ambulatory surgical center. It's also going to give us the ability we think to take share in the standard RF market, which is going to be good for us. Then we've got some things going on in the business. So internationally, we've got a positive reimbursement in Japan. Speaker 100:20:26We've got NICE in the U. K. Coming out for COOLIEF, Talking about giving us the ability to expand our reimbursement in Europe. And really from a strategic perspective being completely different with An approach with the ambulatory surgical center and primarily the orthopedic call point and we are changing a lot of people out and a lot of distributors. So I think Frankly, we'd pretty much be there if we didn't have some of the, it's not the whole story, but if we didn't have, the supply chain issues, we'd be pretty doggone close. Speaker 100:20:56And frankly, we're going to have pretty easy comparables. So but even beyond that, what we're pointing to is we feel that we really can get to a Mid single digit growth because we're participating now in the places that we can win. Speaker 500:21:10Yes, Ed, got it, Dan. I lied. I'll ask a half. And the likely or the potential of Duro's contribution? And then thank you. Speaker 100:21:20Yes. So this year, it's going to be sort of call it $6,000,000 ish million in revenue. Speaker 500:21:25And to 24 and how are you thinking about 24 and 25? Speaker 400:21:30It'll be double digit growth, no doubt about. It'll be an uplift, but obviously on a lower base. So the impact on the mid single digit for pain will be somewhat de minimis. Speaker 500:21:44Thank you. Operator00:21:48The next question comes from Matthew Mishan with KeyBanc. Please go ahead. Speaker 600:21:54Good morning. Thanks for taking the questions. I just wanted to start off with the new baseline for 2023. The $105,000,000 to $115,000,000 of EPS and $100,000,000 to $110,000,000 of EBITDA, Those are clean numbers excluding the divestiture. There's no necessarily revenue coming out And costs that are kind of stuck in the P and L. Speaker 600:22:23Those would be exclusive completely of the divestiture. Speaker 400:22:28Well, they are there are there is that $30,000,000 of trapped costs that still remain in there that we will be getting at Over the next 12 to 18 months. So they're clean, but there are fixed costs that are trapped, Stranded, whatever words you guys want to use, post that and that doesn't include that. So, however, when you get to the 24 and 25 numbers, Those include our ability to get those costs out, if that makes sense, Matt. Speaker 600:23:00No, no, it makes complete sense With how you're looking at it. And then if you think about the progression to 2024, it's about At the midpoint on the EBITDA about $25,000,000 of improvement year over year. Just can you help us kind of walk us to how you're getting there? It seems like a lot of that is going to be just from cost reductions that you have an opportunity and have a pretty good handle on. Speaker 400:23:28Yes, I think it's 2 things. Absolutely, a good portion is cost reductions and then it's the mid single digit growth combined against a higher gross margin profile, right? So our Gross margin profile next year will be going up versus this year meaningfully. Our SG and A as a percentage of revenue will actually be up next year a little bit Versus this year, but we'll be slowly be coming down to our ultimately our end targets of 38% to 39% in 2025. So it is a mix of good mid single digit growth, better mix of product portfolio, dropping to the bottom line, Plus working on our transformation cost efforts that you just mentioned and also starting to lean in on the additional cost takeout Post the divestiture, the full divestiture of RH, right, we're going to be entangled with AirLife for Better part of a year post closing, as they do some manufacturing for us, we do some manufacturing for them. Speaker 400:24:25The 2 plants that they will take over, we get out of and Condense our footprint, which is what we shared on Investor Day. So it's a combination of both. I think the point you're making there, Matt, which I totally agree on is All of that we have control over. Now do we have exact control over whether it's the Q2 or Q3 next year? I mean that's tough Right. Speaker 400:24:45And this is why these are very preliminary 2024 numbers. As we get to the back half this year, as we get beyond the close date, which we hope is going to Early part of the Q4, we're on track for that. We will have for Q4 earnings, we will have a much better defined runway Of how quick we can get at each of these costs and what next year looks like. But yes, we feel good about these ranges because To your point, majority of what's in there for next year and in the 25 is very much in our control, assuming we execute on the pain strategy. Speaker 600:25:19Excellent. And then last question just on the market. As you think about the ASPs He is coming closer to parity between OrthoGen and some of the competition. Kind of where is that And getting closer to parity and kind of when do you expect that to converge completely? Speaker 100:25:40So Matt, this is Joe Woody. I we have several quarters or maybe even said in the prepared remarks, but I can't remember exactly. But I think it's about several quarters. You move into 2024, we're going to settle out a different base. And then we're very confident that we can get a low single digit growth out of that business on a go forward. Speaker 500:25:58Okay. Thank you. Operator00:26:02The next question comes from Kristen Stewart with CL King. Please go ahead. Speaker 700:26:07Hi. Congratulations on a good quarter when you look at the numbers in totality. I was just wondering if you Go through the Digestive Health business, you had a really strong quarter there. How should we just think about the sustainability of that franchise? Speaker 100:26:22Yes. So, Kristen, thanks for your comments on the quarter. I think that we had a very strong At very high double digit, good core track, really good in our legacy business. We think NeoMed has the Type of growth that we've been experiencing double digit anyway at least the next 12 months. And we've got some great global opportunity in legacy side of our business. Speaker 100:26:48But that said, obviously, we'll have tough comparators next year. Nonetheless, we still see it as a really rock solid Mid single digit grower across the board. And then of course, as we said at the Investor Day, we're going to be additive with M and A bolt ons there too. Speaker 700:27:05And just on the M and A environment, is there anything that you can share with us in terms of anything proceeding? Speaker 100:27:12No, as you can imagine, our heads down on execution right now and integration and all the things that you saw in the release. But we do think that as we move into 2024, we'll start to open our aperture again there. Speaker 400:27:25Yes. The only thing I would add, Kristen, to that, obviously, we just have a lot to absorb right now. We really want to execute on what we just laid out today over 24, 25 and ties back to what we shared on Investor Day. We are very focused going forward though. We're not adding a 3rd leg. Speaker 400:27:41We'll be very focused primarily in the DH space. We've done a couple of nice things We believe in the pain space. We've got to go execute organically there. So should we do anything actionable over the next 12 months, You most likely would see that come from the DH space. Speaker 700:27:58Perfect. Thanks very much. Speaker 500:28:00Thank Operator00:28:04you. The next question comes from Daniel Stauter with JMP Securities. Please go ahead. Speaker 300:28:14Yes, great. Thanks. So just first one would be on gross margin. I mean, you talked about 6% both today and during your Analyst Day, And you're almost there right now with earnings. But you talked about $59,000,000 for the full year. Speaker 300:28:30We're really just looking out, just wanted to ask about how do some of these new products play into that. I think you had talked about them being accretive to margins Upon full ramp, but I just wanted to ask post launch of some of these new products in the next 12 months, how long will it take to Really add to that gross margin and add some even more power there. Thanks. Speaker 400:28:53Yes. So I think you're referring to a couple of launches we have in DH, Plus, obviously, adding the DIROS technology, they will be over time, They will be additive to gross margins, which could provide some upside to our 60% to 61% that we have previously disclosed. We also have those inflationary headwinds that we described, which some may argue were conservative that we shared on Investor Day. It was over 400 basis points of So, we still feel very comfortable the 60% to 61%. But as you see the numbers already roll up at 59.9% and what we're looking at, You can make other assessments that perhaps 60% to 61% is too conservative, but we're comfortable with that range right now until we say How the inflationary environment in Mexico plays out over the next 12 to 18 months and ensuring that these launches occur successfully And that Zeros is what we strongly believe it will be for us. Speaker 300:29:56Great. And then just one more for me on pain management. You Mentioned that the softness was due to some supply chain issues, but I really just want to ask about the underlying procedure demand here. How is that And then as far as the supply challenges, what was the main issue there? It seems interesting to us that the headwinds were so broad based. Speaker 300:30:14So any Specific thing you can comment would be helpful. Thanks. Speaker 100:30:20The underlying is trending up And we're in a situation with back order where we're sort of having to allocate to our top 200 accounts and we can't take advantage to your point Of the upswing in procedures. We think that's going to close out as we move into the Q4 really more towards the mid Part of the Q4 and as we go into 2024, so we can take advantage of those, which is why we're feeling a little bit more positive Around that, the actual areas are around chips and components and some of our CRGs, some of the supplies that are part of the COOLIEF For the RF procedure. Then we have a catheter issue that we're dealing with on a supplier To really it affects the ON Q growth in particular. So it's really holding us back. We're frustrated by it. Speaker 100:31:12We Worked our way through it. We again have said we think we'll be through it by the end of the year and that's when we'll start to jump in and take advantage of some of this natural procedural growth, which is there. Speaker 300:31:23Great. Thank you very much. Speaker 500:31:26Yes. Operator00:31:28This concludes our question and answer session. I would now like to turn the call back over to Joe Woody for his closing remarks. Speaker 100:31:37Thank you. I think everybody can get the feeling that we're focused on execution then delivering this plan, and all the things that we outlined at Investor Day. So this year already we've executed on product exits, Divested our RH business, acquired what we think is a valuable technology in DYROS and approved additional share repurchase program and we're delivering on most our financial objectives. Our feeling is these results have established a necessary foundation for us to deliver our midterm financial commitments. We're confident that the transformation priorities in our market leading portfolio and attractive markets position us for sales growth and the margin expansion that we're talking about And of course, meaningful free cash flow generation. Speaker 100:32:16So I know we'll be talking to a number of you going forward. Thanks for attending the call and your continued interest in Avanos. Operator00:32:24The conference has now concluded. Thank you for your participation. 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Sign up for Earnings360's daily newsletter to receive timely earnings updates on Avanos Medical and other key companies, straight to your email. Email Address About Avanos MedicalAvanos Medical (NYSE:AVNS), a medical technology company, offers medical device solutions in North America, Europe, the Middle East, Africa, the Asia Pacific, and Latin America. It offers a portfolio of chronic care products that include digestive health products, such as Mic-Key enteral feeding tubes, Corpak patient feeding solutions, and NeoMed neonatal and pediatric feeding solutions. The company also provides a portfolio of non-opioid pain solutions, including surgical pain and recovery products, such as ON-Q and ambIT surgical pain pumps, Game Ready cold, and compression therapy systems. In addition, it offers interventional pain solutions, which offers minimally invasive pain-relieving therapies, such as Coolief pain relief therapy; OrthogenRx's knee osteoarthritis hyaluronic acid pain relief injection products; and Trident radiofrequency ablation products to treat chronic pain conditions. It markets its products directly to hospitals and other healthcare providers, healthcare facilities, and other end-user customers, as well as through third-party wholesale distributors. The company was formerly known as Halyard Health, Inc. and changed its name to Avanos Medical, Inc. in June 2018. 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There are 8 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Please note, today's call is being recorded. At this time, I'd like to hand the floor over to Avanos' CEO, Joe Woody. Speaker 100:00:09Good morning, everyone. This is Joe Woody. We've asked the New York Stock Exchange and they agreed to halt our trading as our results were inaccurately reported by one news outlet and possibly more. Our total results inclusive of respiratory health were 199 $8,000,000 in revenue and we delivered $0.37 of EPS. Throughout the day to day, we're going to work with the various agencies and news outlets to correct the information. Speaker 100:00:37Now I'm going to turn the call over to Scott Galvin to begin our prepared remarks. Thank you. Speaker 200:00:44Good morning, everyone, and thanks for joining us. It's my pleasure to welcome you to Avanos' 2023 Q2 earnings conference call. Presenting today will be Joe Woody, CEO and Michael Greiner, Senior Vice President, CFO and Chief Transformation Officer. Joe will review our Q2 and expectations for the remainder of 2023 as well as provide further insights around the strategy we laid out at our Investor Day in June. Mike will provide additional detail regarding these topics and provide an update of our 2023 planning assumptions given our Respiratory Health business discontinued operations. Speaker 200:01:19We will finish the call with Q and A. A presentation for today's call is available on the Investors section of our website, avanos.com. As a reminder, our comments today contain forward looking statements related to the company, our expected performance, current economic conditions and our industry. No assurance can be given as to future financial results. Actual results could differ materially from those in the forward looking statements. Speaker 200:01:46For more information about forward looking statements and the risk factors that could influence future results, please see today's press release and risk factors described in our filings with the SEC. Additionally, we will be referring to adjusted results and outlook. The press release has information on these adjustments and reconciliations to comparable GAAP financial measures. Now I'll turn the call over to Joe. Speaker 100:02:09Thanks, Scott. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us to review our operational and financial results for the Q2 of 2023. We are pleased with our Q2. We noted in our year end earnings call and reiterated at our Investor Day in June, our quarterly results for 2023 would be uneven given the timing uncertainties Associated with our transformation plan, which included some of the transactions we announced just prior to our Investor Day. The demand for our products remains strong and although supply chain disruptions have lessened, we continue to experience ongoing Product supply challenges and the effects of inflation throughout our supply chain. Speaker 100:02:50Coming into the year, we anticipated that 2023 will continue to present supply chain headwinds Pockets of product availability challenges, but that many of these headwinds would ease as we reached the back half of the year. We still believe this to be the case with our anticipated year end back order levels to be around $3,000,000 down from over $10,000,000 at the beginning of the year. As always, our primary focus is on getting patients back to the things that matter as we meet the needs of our customers. Speaker 300:03:21For the Speaker 100:03:21quarter, we achieved sales of $169,000,000 from continuing operations or down approximately 1% compared to last year. Excluding both the negative impact of foreign exchange and the $5,000,000 impact related to our previously announced decision eliminate revenue that was not meeting our returns criteria, organic growth was favorable 2.6% for the quarter. We also generated $0.24 of adjusted diluted earnings per share and almost $23,000,000 of adjusted EBITDA From continuing operations during the quarter, while our adjusted gross margin was almost 60% and our SG and A as a percentage of revenue was 45.1%. Actual sales for the quarter inclusive of our respiratory health business was $200,000,000 or 2.5% growth, Also excluding the adjusted revenue items I just referenced, SG and A as a percentage of revenue was 40% Supporting an adjusted EBITDA margin of almost 16% for the quarter. Now I'll spend the next few minutes discussing our results at the product category level. Speaker 100:04:27On a constant currency basis, our Digestive Health portfolio grew almost 17% bolstered by our NeoMed product line, which posted another strong quarter versus the prior year as we continue to take advantage of the demand for ENFit conversions in North America. Our legacy enteral feeding product line grew double digits globally primarily driven by the continued expansion of our U. S. CoreTrax standard of care offering. As noted during Investor Day, we continue to deliver above market growth and leadership in our core digestive health markets and our This momentum through innovations that we plan to launch over the next 12 months, expansion into high potential global markets And actionable M and A targets in large attractive adjacencies. Speaker 100:05:15Turning to our pain management and recovery portfolio, Actual reported sales were down close to 11% for the quarter with soft results across our Interventional Pain, Game Ready and 5 Shot product categories, each which were down at least 5% versus the prior year. Separately, our surgical pain pump business was flat for the quarter Excluding the negative impact of foreign exchange and low growth, low margin products, we are no longer selling in this category. As I shared earlier, we continue to experience supply headwinds within these businesses. Although we expect these headwinds to ease during the second half of this year, Alleviating the supply chain challenges is critical to supporting our pain management and recovery portfolio sales lift in the second half of the year. Finally, our portfolio experienced a weaker than expected first half. Speaker 100:06:07However, this softness was primarily concentrated in our 5 Shot or Genvisc products. 5 shot market has specific pricing and competitive dynamics that are not as prevalent within the 3 shot market. TriVisc, our 3 shot offering Continues to align with our overarching orthopedic call point strategy and is largely meeting our internal performance expectations. We expect volatility will continue to be a factor in both of these markets for the next several quarters as we face strong 2022 comparables and continue to experience The related swings from entering the ASP reporting environment in Q3 2022. Despite this volatility, we believe we have the right strategies in place to capitalize on our opportunities. Speaker 100:06:54Our pain management and recovery business results have not met our expectations over the last year. However, we are confident in our new strategy outlined during Investor Day. This strategy connects our pain brands across the patient lifecycle and sets the stage for sustainable mid single digit growth as we enter 2024 With gross margins exceeding 60%. Our investments in the pain management and recovery business will be very selective over the short to midterm as we focus on includes some of the initiatives that I just described. As we originally outlined in the beginning of the year and further highlighted in June during Investor Day, We have 4 key priorities for the next 3 years that will optimize our go to market opportunities and meaningfully enhance our financial profile. Speaker 100:07:47These priorities include strategically and commercially optimizing our organization, Transforming our portfolio to focus on categories where we have attractive margin profiles and the right to win, Taking additional cost management measures to enhance operating profitability and continuing our path of efficient capital allocation to meaningfully improve Our ROIC. We continue to execute well against these priorities as evidenced by our recent divestiture and acquisition activity, Implementation of our new go to market strategy for our pain management and recovery business, margin improvement, additional portfolio optimization decisions And delivery on our transformation program expense savings. In addition, our Board has recently approved a $25,000,000 share repurchase program. This will not impact our ability to continue to execute our tuck in acquisition strategy, but rather provides us flexibility to allocate capital towards Repurchasing shares that we believe are meaningfully undervalued versus our internally calculated intrinsic value. Finally, I'd like to thank everyone who participated in our Investor Day on June 20th and the subsequent feedback we received from many of you. Speaker 100:09:03Now I'll turn the call over to Michael who continues to lead these efforts in his expanded role as Chief Transformation Officer and will further discuss our Q2 financial results. Speaker 400:09:14Thanks, Joe. Before providing color on our discontinued operations reporting related to the sale of our Respiratory Health business, I'll first provide additional color and detail around our consolidated second quarter results. Total reported sales for the 2nd quarter on an actuals basis was $199,800,000 an increase of 2.5% excluding the negative impact of foreign exchange and the impact of low margin and low growth products have ceased selling. From a continuing operations standpoint, net sales were 169,400,000 Adjusted gross margins were 59.9 percent and adjusted net income for the quarter totaled $11,000,000 translating to $0.24 of adjusted diluted earnings per share. Adjusted EBITDA for the quarter was $23,000,000 in line with prior year. Speaker 400:10:04Separately, we ended the quarter with $82,000,000 of cash on hand And a leverage ratio of less than 1. Looking at our total results, including respiratory health, Gross margin for the quarter was 56.7 percent or 2 70 basis points lower than prior year, primarily driven by the unfavorable impact of the Mexican peso as well as unfavorable product mix impacts mostly related to softness in our portfolio. Sequentially, gross margin improved by 30 basis points. Separately, SG and A as a percentage of revenue improved by 60 basis points versus the prior year And 160 basis points sequentially, primarily related to our cost savings efforts to streamline the organization And reduce our external spend profile. Adjusted diluted earnings per share were $0.37 And adjusted EBITDA totaled $31,800,000 or 15.9%. Speaker 400:11:03Now Focusing on our continuing operations results, adjusted gross margin for the quarter was 59.9%, which reflects the benefits of our portfolio optimization SG and A as a percentage of revenue was 45.1%, an improvement of 100 basis points versus the prior year And a sequential improvement of 280 basis points. We anticipate SG and A as a percentage of revenue to be approximately 43% to 44% For the full year from a continuing operations standpoint, with substantial improvement in 2024, ultimately leading to our 2025 goal between 38% to 39 Percent. Adjusted diluted earnings per share were $0.24 versus $0.26 a year ago With adjusted EBITDA margin of 13.5% compared to 13.4% in 2022. For the 1st 6 months of 2023, the impact of discontinued operations totaled $19,000,000 of EBITDA reduction. We anticipate the full year impact to be approximately $40,000,000 which also is directionally representative of the annual The stranded cost impact for the RH divestiture. Speaker 400:12:16These stranded costs include allocations from shared service functions, Shipping and freight dis synergies and loss of scale in our international operations, among other fixed costs. Through 2024, we will offset a portion of these stranded costs via our transition services agreements with AirLife. Additionally, we are accelerating and expanding our existing cost reduction program to mitigate the majority of the remaining stranded costs, Expecting approximately $30,000,000 incremental cost reduction by the end of 2025, leaving an estimated $10,000,000 to $15,000,000 of go forward dis synergies. Future M and A, of course, would enable additional stranded cost absorption. As a result of the respiratory health divestiture, which we anticipate will close early in Q4, we expect adjusted diluted EPS between $1.05 $1.15 for the year with gross margins around 60% and adjusted EBITDA margins of approximately 15%, Including the current year impact of the approximately $17,000,000 annualized impact of product portfolio rationalization that we previously discussed, Company anticipates comparable organic revenue growth to be low single digits for the year. Speaker 400:13:36As previously communicated, The cost management aspects of our transformation program will total between $45,000,000 $55,000,000 of gross savings by 2025. We now anticipate approximately $20,000,000 of those savings in 2023 with the majority of the remainder to be executed in 2024. These savings do not contemplate the elimination of the stranded costs that I just described, which will be addressed separately. Our preliminary view for 2024 anticipates that we will deliver mid single digit revenue growth across our portfolio With adjusted gross margins of approximately 60%. Separately, we expect to reduce SG and A as a percentage of sales to 40% to 42% As a result of our cost takeout efforts and anticipate generating adjusted EBITDA of between $120,000,000 $140,000,000 These ranges will be negatively or positively impacted by our ability to accelerate our pain growth story and our cost management efforts. Speaker 400:14:38With regards to free cash flow, we now anticipate annual free cash flow of approximately $60,000,000 As a result of higher interest and tax payments and weaker than anticipated performance in our pain management and recovery portfolio. This estimate also excludes onetime restructuring costs for this year. We remain confident in our ability to deliver Approximately $100,000,000 of free cash flow for 2025 and this assumes $25,000,000 in tax payments, $20,000,000 in capital expenditures and $15,000,000 in interest payments. In closing, we will continue to execute on each of our transformation priorities and have a laser focus on both the digestive health and Management and Recovery Business Strategies. We believe that execution of these portfolio strategies combined with our other transformation priorities We'll support delivering mid single digit organic revenue growth, gross margins exceeding 60%, adjusted EBITDA margins greater than 20%, And free cash flow generation of approximately $100,000,000 that I just shared. Speaker 400:15:50Finally, we will remain prudent stewards of our balance sheet, Pursuing margin accretive tuck in acquisitions and opportunistic share repurchases. Operator, please open the line for questions. Operator00:16:05Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. Today's first question comes from Rick Wise with Stifel. Please go ahead. Speaker 500:16:36Good morning, Joe. Hi, Mike. Thanks for all the detail and the clarity. And a lot to absorb and think through, but you gave us a lot of Good data. I want to start off just Michael, you said it very clearly and giving us First look at 2024 that pain growth acceleration or reacceleration, Cost reduction are the 2 critical pillars, if I understood your words, correct me if I'm wrong, to achieving that growth. Speaker 500:17:15Maybe take us through I'm going to guess cost reduction is more in your control. Just give us even more detail about Why you're confident that you can achieve your goals and some of the specific actions we can understand that. And maybe just I'm just looking at your Slide 7 where you talk about the pain portfolio being challenged. If you'd be so kind, take us through each piece and help us understand your action plan That's going to you wouldn't say it if you didn't have a plan and didn't believe it, I'm confident. That's going to help us More credibly understand and believe that pain growth can reaccelerate in 2024. Speaker 600:18:01And Speaker 500:18:01that's sort of my first and second question. Speaker 400:18:06Thanks Rick. And I'll turn it over to Joe in a second to talk about the pain strategic approach And tie that back to what we shared on Investor Day and why we are confident in our ability to execute mid single digit next year. What I was trying to convey on the EBITDA and the cost and the pain growth, $120,000,000 to $140,000,000 is our current Preliminary early view of 2024. The lower end of that range would mean we didn't execute as well as we wanted to on the pain growth And or the cost management efforts, which I agree are in our control, maybe we're a little bit slower. Maybe there were some things that occurred through the transition agreements that had us distracted for a short period of time in the early half of the year. Speaker 400:18:52So we had to get at some of those cost management efforts in the back half of twenty twenty four. So these 2025 targets, We feel really good about because 1, we have programs in place like you just described and the 2024 range, we feel really good about. But whether we're at 120 or 140 will be entirely dependent upon our ability to grow mid single digits in the pain category, which Joe will talk about in a minute, And the quickness at which we get at these cost management programs. Those programs will happen, Rick. It's just can we get it done in March or do we get them done in July? Speaker 100:19:27And Rick, this is Joe Woody. Just to kind of pick up on the pain growth for 2024. I mean, if you think about this quarter, the company, Either way, we're about sort of 2.5 ish percent organic growth when you remove all the noise. And what we've said is we've unfortunately continued in IVP in acute pain with pretty significant supply chain issues. This is before we talk about the new initiatives. Speaker 100:19:52So we're almost sort of Without those kind of at a 4 ish or 5 ish type of growth as a overall Avanos in the new Avanos go forward, the continued operations if you look at it That way. The other thing I would say is we're very confident in bringing DYROS in and that's going to give us an opportunity to play in the ambulatory surgical center. It's also going to give us the ability we think to take share in the standard RF market, which is going to be good for us. Then we've got some things going on in the business. So internationally, we've got a positive reimbursement in Japan. Speaker 100:20:26We've got NICE in the U. K. Coming out for COOLIEF, Talking about giving us the ability to expand our reimbursement in Europe. And really from a strategic perspective being completely different with An approach with the ambulatory surgical center and primarily the orthopedic call point and we are changing a lot of people out and a lot of distributors. So I think Frankly, we'd pretty much be there if we didn't have some of the, it's not the whole story, but if we didn't have, the supply chain issues, we'd be pretty doggone close. Speaker 100:20:56And frankly, we're going to have pretty easy comparables. So but even beyond that, what we're pointing to is we feel that we really can get to a Mid single digit growth because we're participating now in the places that we can win. Speaker 500:21:10Yes, Ed, got it, Dan. I lied. I'll ask a half. And the likely or the potential of Duro's contribution? And then thank you. Speaker 100:21:20Yes. So this year, it's going to be sort of call it $6,000,000 ish million in revenue. Speaker 500:21:25And to 24 and how are you thinking about 24 and 25? Speaker 400:21:30It'll be double digit growth, no doubt about. It'll be an uplift, but obviously on a lower base. So the impact on the mid single digit for pain will be somewhat de minimis. Speaker 500:21:44Thank you. Operator00:21:48The next question comes from Matthew Mishan with KeyBanc. Please go ahead. Speaker 600:21:54Good morning. Thanks for taking the questions. I just wanted to start off with the new baseline for 2023. The $105,000,000 to $115,000,000 of EPS and $100,000,000 to $110,000,000 of EBITDA, Those are clean numbers excluding the divestiture. There's no necessarily revenue coming out And costs that are kind of stuck in the P and L. Speaker 600:22:23Those would be exclusive completely of the divestiture. Speaker 400:22:28Well, they are there are there is that $30,000,000 of trapped costs that still remain in there that we will be getting at Over the next 12 to 18 months. So they're clean, but there are fixed costs that are trapped, Stranded, whatever words you guys want to use, post that and that doesn't include that. So, however, when you get to the 24 and 25 numbers, Those include our ability to get those costs out, if that makes sense, Matt. Speaker 600:23:00No, no, it makes complete sense With how you're looking at it. And then if you think about the progression to 2024, it's about At the midpoint on the EBITDA about $25,000,000 of improvement year over year. Just can you help us kind of walk us to how you're getting there? It seems like a lot of that is going to be just from cost reductions that you have an opportunity and have a pretty good handle on. Speaker 400:23:28Yes, I think it's 2 things. Absolutely, a good portion is cost reductions and then it's the mid single digit growth combined against a higher gross margin profile, right? So our Gross margin profile next year will be going up versus this year meaningfully. Our SG and A as a percentage of revenue will actually be up next year a little bit Versus this year, but we'll be slowly be coming down to our ultimately our end targets of 38% to 39% in 2025. So it is a mix of good mid single digit growth, better mix of product portfolio, dropping to the bottom line, Plus working on our transformation cost efforts that you just mentioned and also starting to lean in on the additional cost takeout Post the divestiture, the full divestiture of RH, right, we're going to be entangled with AirLife for Better part of a year post closing, as they do some manufacturing for us, we do some manufacturing for them. Speaker 400:24:25The 2 plants that they will take over, we get out of and Condense our footprint, which is what we shared on Investor Day. So it's a combination of both. I think the point you're making there, Matt, which I totally agree on is All of that we have control over. Now do we have exact control over whether it's the Q2 or Q3 next year? I mean that's tough Right. Speaker 400:24:45And this is why these are very preliminary 2024 numbers. As we get to the back half this year, as we get beyond the close date, which we hope is going to Early part of the Q4, we're on track for that. We will have for Q4 earnings, we will have a much better defined runway Of how quick we can get at each of these costs and what next year looks like. But yes, we feel good about these ranges because To your point, majority of what's in there for next year and in the 25 is very much in our control, assuming we execute on the pain strategy. Speaker 600:25:19Excellent. And then last question just on the market. As you think about the ASPs He is coming closer to parity between OrthoGen and some of the competition. Kind of where is that And getting closer to parity and kind of when do you expect that to converge completely? Speaker 100:25:40So Matt, this is Joe Woody. I we have several quarters or maybe even said in the prepared remarks, but I can't remember exactly. But I think it's about several quarters. You move into 2024, we're going to settle out a different base. And then we're very confident that we can get a low single digit growth out of that business on a go forward. Speaker 500:25:58Okay. Thank you. Operator00:26:02The next question comes from Kristen Stewart with CL King. Please go ahead. Speaker 700:26:07Hi. Congratulations on a good quarter when you look at the numbers in totality. I was just wondering if you Go through the Digestive Health business, you had a really strong quarter there. How should we just think about the sustainability of that franchise? Speaker 100:26:22Yes. So, Kristen, thanks for your comments on the quarter. I think that we had a very strong At very high double digit, good core track, really good in our legacy business. We think NeoMed has the Type of growth that we've been experiencing double digit anyway at least the next 12 months. And we've got some great global opportunity in legacy side of our business. Speaker 100:26:48But that said, obviously, we'll have tough comparators next year. Nonetheless, we still see it as a really rock solid Mid single digit grower across the board. And then of course, as we said at the Investor Day, we're going to be additive with M and A bolt ons there too. Speaker 700:27:05And just on the M and A environment, is there anything that you can share with us in terms of anything proceeding? Speaker 100:27:12No, as you can imagine, our heads down on execution right now and integration and all the things that you saw in the release. But we do think that as we move into 2024, we'll start to open our aperture again there. Speaker 400:27:25Yes. The only thing I would add, Kristen, to that, obviously, we just have a lot to absorb right now. We really want to execute on what we just laid out today over 24, 25 and ties back to what we shared on Investor Day. We are very focused going forward though. We're not adding a 3rd leg. Speaker 400:27:41We'll be very focused primarily in the DH space. We've done a couple of nice things We believe in the pain space. We've got to go execute organically there. So should we do anything actionable over the next 12 months, You most likely would see that come from the DH space. Speaker 700:27:58Perfect. Thanks very much. Speaker 500:28:00Thank Operator00:28:04you. The next question comes from Daniel Stauter with JMP Securities. Please go ahead. Speaker 300:28:14Yes, great. Thanks. So just first one would be on gross margin. I mean, you talked about 6% both today and during your Analyst Day, And you're almost there right now with earnings. But you talked about $59,000,000 for the full year. Speaker 300:28:30We're really just looking out, just wanted to ask about how do some of these new products play into that. I think you had talked about them being accretive to margins Upon full ramp, but I just wanted to ask post launch of some of these new products in the next 12 months, how long will it take to Really add to that gross margin and add some even more power there. Thanks. Speaker 400:28:53Yes. So I think you're referring to a couple of launches we have in DH, Plus, obviously, adding the DIROS technology, they will be over time, They will be additive to gross margins, which could provide some upside to our 60% to 61% that we have previously disclosed. We also have those inflationary headwinds that we described, which some may argue were conservative that we shared on Investor Day. It was over 400 basis points of So, we still feel very comfortable the 60% to 61%. But as you see the numbers already roll up at 59.9% and what we're looking at, You can make other assessments that perhaps 60% to 61% is too conservative, but we're comfortable with that range right now until we say How the inflationary environment in Mexico plays out over the next 12 to 18 months and ensuring that these launches occur successfully And that Zeros is what we strongly believe it will be for us. Speaker 300:29:56Great. And then just one more for me on pain management. You Mentioned that the softness was due to some supply chain issues, but I really just want to ask about the underlying procedure demand here. How is that And then as far as the supply challenges, what was the main issue there? It seems interesting to us that the headwinds were so broad based. Speaker 300:30:14So any Specific thing you can comment would be helpful. Thanks. Speaker 100:30:20The underlying is trending up And we're in a situation with back order where we're sort of having to allocate to our top 200 accounts and we can't take advantage to your point Of the upswing in procedures. We think that's going to close out as we move into the Q4 really more towards the mid Part of the Q4 and as we go into 2024, so we can take advantage of those, which is why we're feeling a little bit more positive Around that, the actual areas are around chips and components and some of our CRGs, some of the supplies that are part of the COOLIEF For the RF procedure. Then we have a catheter issue that we're dealing with on a supplier To really it affects the ON Q growth in particular. So it's really holding us back. We're frustrated by it. Speaker 100:31:12We Worked our way through it. We again have said we think we'll be through it by the end of the year and that's when we'll start to jump in and take advantage of some of this natural procedural growth, which is there. Speaker 300:31:23Great. Thank you very much. Speaker 500:31:26Yes. Operator00:31:28This concludes our question and answer session. I would now like to turn the call back over to Joe Woody for his closing remarks. Speaker 100:31:37Thank you. I think everybody can get the feeling that we're focused on execution then delivering this plan, and all the things that we outlined at Investor Day. So this year already we've executed on product exits, Divested our RH business, acquired what we think is a valuable technology in DYROS and approved additional share repurchase program and we're delivering on most our financial objectives. Our feeling is these results have established a necessary foundation for us to deliver our midterm financial commitments. We're confident that the transformation priorities in our market leading portfolio and attractive markets position us for sales growth and the margin expansion that we're talking about And of course, meaningful free cash flow generation. Speaker 100:32:16So I know we'll be talking to a number of you going forward. Thanks for attending the call and your continued interest in Avanos. Operator00:32:24The conference has now concluded. Thank you for your participation. You may nowRead moreRemove AdsPowered by