FGI Industries Q2 2023 Earnings Call Transcript

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August 10, 2023

There are 6 speakers on the call.

Operator

Good morning, and welcome to the FGI Industries Second Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in a listen only mode. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. Please also note that this event is being recorded today. I would now like to turn the conference Over to Paul Bartelai, Managing Director, Valem Advisors.

Operator

Please go ahead, sir.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Welcome to FGI Industries' Q2 2023 results conference call. Leading the call today are President and CEO, David Bruce and Chief Financial Officer, Perry Lynn. We issued a press release after the market closed yesterday detailing our recent operational and financial results. I would like to remind you that management's commentary and responses to questions on today's conference call may include forward looking statements, which by their nature are uncertain and outside of the company's control.

Speaker 1

Although these forward looking statements are based on management's current expectations and beliefs, actual results may differ materially. For a discussion of some of the factors that could cause actual results to differ, please refer to the Risk Factors section of our latest filings with the SEC. Additionally, please note that you can find reconciliations of historical non GAAP financial measures in the press release issued yesterday and in the appendix of this presentation. Today's call will begin with a performance review and strategic update from David Bruce, followed by a financial review from Perry Lynn. At the conclusion of these prepared remarks, we will open the line for your questions.

Speaker 1

With that, I'll turn the call over to Dave.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Paul. Good morning to everyone and thanks for joining our call today. During the Q2, we maintained focus on our long term strategy and continued to make important progress on our growth and margin initiatives despite the sluggish demand trends and inventory headwinds, which once again pressured results. We continue to execute on our BPC growth initiatives and added several new awards and partnerships during the Q2, including a new licensing agreement that should drive incremental growth in our sanitary wear business as well as new sales partnerships that will allow us to expand our geographic footprint into India and Eastern Europe in the coming years, all of which should put FGI in a strong position to return to organic growth as industry conditions normalize. As we have discussed on prior calls, a key focus of our BPC strategy Is to increase the contribution from branded products and prioritize higher margin markets and categories.

Speaker 2

Our success under these initiatives has been a key factor in in the meaningful gross margin improvement in recent quarters. This continued into the 2nd quarter with record second Quarter gross margin of 27.4 percent, up nearly 1,000 basis points from last year. As a result, our 2nd quarter gross profit declined by less than 5% despite a nearly 40% drop in revenue. While a volume rebound in the pro channel and bath furniture could impact the gross margin trajectory in the near term, we expect the continued benefit from our Our strategic focus on higher margin categories such as shower systems and kitchen cabinetry as well as improved operating leverage to further benefit margins over time. The industry wide inventory correction that has been a headwind to our revenue growth has lingered into 2023 with uneven demand in the R and R channel and macro uncertainty adding another layer of pressure.

Speaker 2

This has caused many of our large customers to take a very cautious stance on inventory levels with many industry participants attempting to reduce inventories to levels This has prolonged the destocking headwinds, particularly in the pro channel, where the inventory correction is extending into the second half of the year. In addition, our European business centered in Germany Has faced pressure due to a combination of destocking headwinds along with significant recessionary pressures in that country. These factors are proving to be a more significant headwind than we anticipated at the start of the year. And as a result, we are adjusting our full year guidance. We now expect full year 2023 revenues of $120,000,000 to $130,000,000 adjusted operating income of $3,500,000 to $5,000,000 and adjusted net income of $2,000,000 to $3,000,000 While we are disappointed to lower our full year outlook, We still see plenty of reasons for optimism, both in the broader market and in particular with our company specific initiatives.

Speaker 2

Looking at the broader R and R market, demand has been uneven, but the overall market is holding up as well as we would expect. The R and R market tends to be more stable than the broader building products category and that is what we are seeing. The Bath Furniture business We are taking numerous actions to drive further volume growth, including Anticipated new product line rollouts and select pricing adjustments. Importantly, we are not seeing signs of broader discounting or promotional activity in the market. Looking forward, we have been encouraged by a stabilization of inventory trends as we look into the back half of twenty twenty three and into 2024.

Speaker 2

We have also been encouraged by the recent housing data, which is showing signs of stabilization and improvement as buyers get accustomed to the new level of mortgage rates. Commentary from the public builders continues to be more constructive with most players noting improved order trends and increasing buyer confidence. Overall, the trends in our end markets are largely consistent with our expectations coming into the year, and we continue to expect our end markets to decline in the mid to high single digits during 2023. While the trends in 2023 have been more challenging than originally expected, our longer term For the kitchen and bath repair and remodel market and FGI's position in the industry remain unchanged. As a result, we continue to invest through this cycle and remain focused on our strategic plan, which ultimately is to drive long term growth above the market and create value regardless of the market environment.

Speaker 2

As a reminder, our long term strategic plan is focused on 3 key initiatives, which includes driving organic growth using our VPC strategy, operational improvements and efficient capital deployment. I am very excited by the progress we made against these strategic initiatives during the Q2. So I would like to walk through some of our key accomplishments. As it relates to our VPC program and our organic growth initiatives, we were awarded several important new programs entered into a couple exciting partnerships during the quarter. First, we entered into a 5 year licensing agreement that will provide FGI access an industry leading overflow toilet technology, which should provide a key differentiator in the market.

Speaker 2

We expect to launch new sanitary ware products utilizing this technology at the 2024 Kitchen and Bath Show. 2nd, we entered into 2 exciting new partnerships That will enable us to expand our geographic footprint into the high growth Indian and Eastern European markets. We engaged Miura India, a sales organization based in Mumbai, India to serve as a catalyst for our geographic expansion and heightened market presence in India. Neora India will focus exclusively on marketing and selling FGI's sanitary wear line of products to both wholesale and hospitality trade channels across the country. In addition, we also recently formed a strategic partner Ship with MiaPartner to extend our presence into Eastern Europe.

Speaker 2

Leveraging their expert resources located in the target customer countries, Mia partner working with our international sales team is now actively identifying potential customer targets in the region, prioritizing cultural relevance and understanding throughout the process. This collaboration aims to 3rd, we continue to execute on recently announced awards, including our online shower door program for an existing large Canadian retail partner, which commenced in June 2023 and the rollout of FGI's industry leading shower wall program into as many as 300 locations of a large U. S. Retailer. Both programs are on track and should contribute to improved Shower Systems orders in the second half of twenty twenty three and into twenty twenty four.

Speaker 2

Our custom cabinetry business continues to grow rapidly with significantly higher incremental gross margins than the company average. Our premium Covered Bridge brand added 57 new dealers thus far in 2023, bringing the total dealer count to 180 at the end of the second quarter. As we mentioned last quarter, we continue to develop a new business venture that we feel has tremendous potential in the online custom kitchen cabinetry space. We look forward updating the market on our progress in the coming quarters. We are very excited by our progress on our strategic initiatives and we remain confident that this will help us drive above market organic growth as market conditions normalize.

Speaker 2

The second focus of our value creation strategy is on operating efficiency and driving margin expansion. We once again made excellent progress on our margin improvement initiatives as we reported another quarter of strong year over year gross margin improvement. While lower freight costs and pricing have been a contributor to the improved margin performance, we think it is important to understand that our strategic decision to focus on higher margin categories has been the main driver of the improved performance and we view this as a structural shift that will continue to benefit margins over the long term. Finally is our focus on efficient capital deployment. Following the challenges caused by the supply chain disruptions and inflationary pressures, We made meaningful progress in reducing our working capital usage in recent quarters, which has resulted in improved free cash flow conversion.

Speaker 2

This further bolstered our solid liquidity position and financial flexibility. As a result, we have ample capacity to invest in our organic growth initiatives. At the same time, we continue to actively pursue bolt on opportunities, although as we have stressed on previous calls, We remain disciplined and rigorous in our approach and our acquisition strategy. Overall, while market conditions have been a challenge and we are disappointed To fall short of our original financial targets, I am very proud of our execution. We continue to generate strong margin improvements.

Speaker 2

We were awarded several new business programs, including important partnerships to further expand our geographic footprint into new High growth markets and we made important progress on our strategic goals. We think this all serves to position the company very well for the future. With that, I will turn it over to Perry for a more detailed review of our financials.

Speaker 3

Thank you, Dave, and good morning, everyone. I will provide some additional details on the quarter given an update on our liquidity and balance sheet and wrap it up with our full year 2023 guidance. Revenue totaled $29,200,000 during the Q2 of 2023, A decrease of 39% compared to the prior year due to continued inventory destocking as well as some modest softening in our customer demand. Currency was a headwind during the quarter and negatively impacted revenue by 1.2%. Looking at our business line, sanitary ware revenue It was $18,800,000 during the Q2, down from $32,300,000 during the prior year period Due to continued inventory headwind, particularly in the pro channel, we continue to see large customer take cautious stance regarding inventory labels given sluggish demand trends, which is promoting the inventory Correction.

Speaker 3

However, our sanitary revenue did increase 23% sequentially from the Q1 of 2023. So we are seeing some customer beginning to return to more normal order patterns, and we are hopeful for continued rebound in order trend to in the back half of the year as inventory label normalize and demand rebound driven by recent improvement in the housing industry fundamentals. Best Furniture revenue was $4,800,000 during the 2nd quarter, A decline from revenue of $7,700,000 in the prior year period. The broader Bass Furniture market, in particular Bass Cabinetry, Has continued to experience sluggish demand trend causing inventory level to remain elevated. In response to the ongoing demand headwinds, as Dave mentioned, we have made some modest pricing adjustment on certain Bath furniture products, which is expected to drive improved demand.

Speaker 3

Shawwa system revenue was $4,300,000 during the 2nd quarter, down from $6,500,000 last year due to some modest inventory destocking and order timing. While revenue declined from last year, the overall momentum in the business remains strong with the recently awarded New program expected to drive improved trend in second half of twenty twenty three. On a revenue, which consists Primarily of the custom peach and cabinetry business was $1,300,000 during the Q2, essentially free from the prior year. While there was a modest law in order following the strong path of the new business coming out of Kitchen and Bath Show At the start of the year, trend in the business remains strong and we expect strong momentum in the back half of the year. Gross profit was $8,000,000 during the Q2, a decrease of only 4.9% compared to last year.

Speaker 3

As the recent revenue headwind continued to be offset by improved margin performance, gross profit margin improved to 27 0.4% during the Q2 of 2023, up 980 basis points from last year. While mainly driven by more favorable product mix, gross margin also benefit from lower freight cost and the full benefit of the price increase implemented during 2022. Our operating expense increased to $7,400,000 during the 2nd quarter, up from RMB 6,700,000 last year as we continue to invest our growth initiative. The higher operating expenses reflect Marketing spending for new product initiative caused to support our geographic expansion program and the expenses tied to our new kitchen business opportunity. GAAP operating income was $580,000 during the Q2 of 2023, down from income $1,700,000 in the prior year period.

Speaker 3

Excluding one time expenses, adjusted operating income was 6 142,000 during the Q2. The decline in operating income was a result of the revenue decline and the continued Investment in operating expense tied to the growth initiative partially offset by improved gross margin. As a result, Operating margin was 2.2% during the Q2, down from 3.6% in the same period last year, But improvement from the breakeven profitability during the Q1 of 2023, GAAP net income was $100,000 or $0.01 per diluted share during the Q2 of 2023 versus net income of $1,200,000 or $0.10 per diluted share in the same period last year. Excluding one time item, adjusted net income for the Q2 of 2023 was $200,000 or $0.02 per diluted share. Now turning into balance sheet and our liquidity.

Speaker 3

As of June 30, 2023, the company has $6,900,000 of cash and cash equivalents and total debt of $7,900,000 At the end of the quarter, we had $15,700,000 of availability under our credit facility, net of data of credit. Combined with cash, total liquidity was $22,600,000 at quarter end. We believe we are in a solid liquidity position that is more than sufficient to fund our growth initiative. Finally, turning into guidance. As Dave discussed, inventory destocking has proven to be a bigger headwind than expected.

Speaker 3

As a result, We are lowering our full year 2023 guidance. Please note that guidance they have online for net income and operating income is being provided on an adjusted basis and excluded non recurring items. In addition, our guidance include approximately $500,000 in expenses for our new kitchen cabinetry initiative. That completes our prepared remarks. Operator, we are now ready for question and answer portion of our call.

Operator

We will now begin the question and answer session. At this time, we will take our first question, which will come from Reuben Garner with Benchmark. Please go ahead.

Speaker 4

Thank you. Good morning, everybody. Hey,

Speaker 2

good morning, Ruben. Good morning, Ruben.

Speaker 4

So Just trying to clarify the comments on the destocking is because you mentioned some customers were showing signs of returning to normal Order patterns sequentially, is all the destocking that you're seeing at this point at the pro level? And can you remind us how much of your business goes through that channel? And then I guess maybe just for clarification purposes, what you're Speaking specifically at retail.

Speaker 2

Yes. Thanks for the question. Yes, we're seeing it in both the pro and retail side. It is moderating. So that is why we mentioned that they continue to come down, but there's more of a lag.

Speaker 2

And as you know, we have A relatively high concentration of some larger customers in both the Pro and the retail side. And as their inventory has been funneling down and moving out through the channel, their baseline inventory levels are also being to be a bit lower than they were prior to all of these inventory issues. And at the same time, In both the pro channel and the retail channel, we're seeing a softening. We've said that the R and R market is going to be is projected to be down in the high So when you combine the softening of the on the demand side with the Extended lower inventory levels, this is sort of dragging out a little bit more of what we expected on the destocking side. Now again, Because of the larger customer size that impacted us and extended a bit, it's very hard for us to Recover that as quickly as we would have wanted to.

Speaker 2

We didn't completely anticipate. We were cautious to think that may extend Further into the year and I think we had mentioned that, but by doing so, it obviously is a was more of a challenge to overcome as quickly.

Speaker 4

So we have limited financial history with you guys. Is there normally a

Speaker 2

Like a

Speaker 4

stocking quarter for your industry? And if so, Is that something that is just being pushed out like we're seeing in other categories where the retailers or the dealers channels just saying, hey, look, We normally stock up in the Q4. We're going to push pause and wait. Just given all the uncertainty, we're going to wait until Early part of next year to make sure the consumer is okay and how things okay before we go ahead and kind of return to normal buying. Is there something like that, a dynamic like that in your potentially?

Speaker 2

For the most part, no. We're relatively there's not much seasonality To our business, when I say that, there's a bit of seasonality on the retail side tied A little bit to the spring season because obviously everybody gets out and about and as they promote the spring businesses that we see a little bit of a bump there. The only seasonality I would say that we did miss last year was going into the end of the season Because of our manufacturing being in Asia for the most part, people get ahead of the holiday season, Chinese New Year for example, And usually give us a little bit of an order bump towards the end of the year in advance of those We didn't see that, right? So at this year, we would anticipate that we would see that again because that's been sort of a normal trend for us over the course of our Business through all the cycles. So that is something that we're hoping to see again as we get into the second half.

Speaker 4

Okay, great. And then last one for me. Your margin performance has been encouraging the last couple of quarters. It looks like you're creeping Back into that kind of mid single digit operating margin range that you were a few years ago, but you're getting there a very different way. How do we Thanks about that kind of makeup between gross margin and what your operating expense line looks like longer Term is something in the mid to upper 20s from a gross margin standpoint sustainable and will you have

Speaker 2

Yes, that's a great question. I'm glad you brought that up. We do think there's absolutely leverage. I've used the phrase before on 1 or 2 of the calls. We're not a start up company, but we're acting like a start In a sense that we're despite some down cycles with business, we continue to reinvest to grow this business.

Speaker 2

And part of what I mentioned earlier, With our concentration risk being in some larger customers and limited more limited channels without we've talked about the evergreen space we Not only in North America and the channels, but that's why we're investing in the Digital Kitchen Venture. That's why we're investing to move into the Indian market. That's why we've invested to try to break into the UK market and now, of course, Eastern Europe. And all of that is part of Continuing to level the playing field for us as far as the channel our VPC strategy, which again you're familiar with. And what essentially those investments are going to do for us is, I call it like sort of leveling the waves in the ocean.

Speaker 2

Right now, Because we are subscale and a lot of the larger customers could impact our results in both ways, right? They could be Impacted negatively or positively, but we really want to grow out and scale bring more scalability to the business overall, Expand the markets geographically, expand the channels and of course expand the product, the new product mixtures that we're working on to all of our customers. To answer the bottom line, yes, you're going to see there's a little over $1,000,000 in OpEx spending this year that really isn't going to bring any revenue until next year, right? So Had we wanted to, we could have taken that and said we're not going to invest at all and we probably would have been a lot closer Our adjusted operating income or adjusted net income numbers from our guidance, but really that doesn't really do us any good in the long term, right? So the long term outlook It's what we're focused on and we're obviously being very diligent about what we spend, but the investments are there and they're going to be Quite lucrative, we think, as we move along.

Speaker 4

Great. And I'm going to sneak one more follow-up. And so Perry mentioned, I think it was Bath Furniture adjusting some prices to try to drive demand, just kind of tying into that sustainability question on the gross Margin side is the last few couple of quarters, is that kind of indicative of where we can Say going into next year or you're going to have to give some back with inflation kind of coming in?

Speaker 2

Yes, I think we're doing a couple of things. So yes, we made some pricing adjustments. But more importantly, we're making mix changes within the Not only the cabinet assortment, all of our assortments obviously, but we're making some mix changes in cabinetry as the majority of Our portfolio of Bath Furniture was focused on the high end, right? And obviously, as the market changed, there was a little bit more movement, Not initially, but there's been more movement now towards what I would call the middle range. So we've already been working on adjusting The assortments to meet the newer customer demand, and that's already in place for going into the back half of the year and We'll be debut in a major way when we exhibit at our major trade show in the spring, but by then we'll already be in place.

Speaker 2

So that's Really what we meant there, we did adjust some pricing. And I think we had mentioned even several quarters ago, as freight Costs continue to come down. We still adjusted pricing. But with that and adjusting our mixes and our product mixes and upgrading our product mixes, That's why we're still very confident we're going to continue to grow our margins sequentially as we move forward.

Speaker 4

Great. Thanks and good luck going through the rest of the year, guys.

Speaker 2

No problem. Thank you.

Operator

And our next question will come from Greg Davis with Northland Securities. Please go ahead.

Speaker 5

Great. Good morning, Dave and Terry. Thanks for taking the question.

Speaker 2

Hey, Rick. How are you? Good morning.

Speaker 5

Great. Thanks. I think if you were to break out the drivers of the delta in guidance, how much I imagine the vast majority is Just the destocking trends continuing, how much is destocking related versus perhaps other shifting dynamics that you're seeing?

Speaker 2

Yes, it's a good question. I think they're really They're hand in hand because destocking by itself, let's go back historically. But pre just up until 2022, the industry experienced the longest period of active stocking in the last 20 years. It was 26 weeks, I believe, or several months, 26 weeks in a row of active stocking. And then As we hit the destocking wall, so to speak, last year, that was prior to really having any anticipation of The R and R demand dropping as well.

Speaker 2

So what's happened is you've had destocking extend a bit. You've had the end user market demand drop. And then as I've mentioned, you've also had customers rethink what their baseline inventory levels will be. So they've lowered those as well. So really they work hand in hand to sort of soften the demand side.

Speaker 2

I will say though based Conversations with customers based on the industry research that we've seen, based on the mood speaking to the in the market, Those inventory levels are moderating, but of course, there's a lag, right? So there's a lag by the time they because they want to flush out inventory that they already have for sales that You know, are still softening from a demand perspective and then those once those levels get down, they turn around and the order case comes back. So We have seen and I think Ruben sort of mentioned that we have seen some of the orders come back to some degree, For example, on bath cabinetry, but it hasn't been consistent. So that's what we're trying to we're still not back to what we would call a regular order cadence. And that's what's been extended.

Speaker 2

We thought we would be back to an order cadence earlier, and we're not. So that was a large part of them and the major part of us looking at We had to adjust the guidance because we just like I said, the major customers that we have both on the pro and the retail side You don't have that major impact as it's very difficult to overcome at this point.

Speaker 5

Great. That's very helpful, Dave. And I think it makes Thanks, regarding what you're seeing. But, I guess, the follow-up there, is the order cadence improving? Or is it kind of just Leveled out at where we thought in Q2.

Speaker 5

Just wondering maybe the dynamics you're seeing in Q3, like are they improving or is it kind of consistent? And along with that question, maybe what is the cadence that's implied within your guidance for Q3 versus Q4 for the remainder of the

Speaker 2

Yes. So in a sense, what we're if you look at our overall guide, while the second half guide It's a bit lower. It's more close to our original guidance than the first half, right? So the first half is really we're going to take most of our hits From a revenue perspective, and we would expect that those last two quarters we would get back to that normal pace. And we are we already are seeing Here in August, for example, we're starting to see a pickup, right?

Speaker 2

We're starting to see a little bit more regularity to some things. It's also Difficult to say regularity when it's only been a month and a half, but we are starting to feel the moods a little better. There's a lot of activity. Like I said, all the programs that we talked about last quarter are all on schedule to roll out. So we're going to have a lot of incremental gain from some of the new programs as well.

Speaker 2

So At this point, we took that into account to try to forecast out that cadence and assume Based on what we're seeing and hearing that, that will become more regular and would help us achieve those numbers that we laid out there.

Speaker 5

Great. Appreciate the color there. Because I mean, I know it's still early in the quarter relatively, but it's kind of good to hear that it's not Trending worse in a way. So that's helpful. And I

Speaker 4

think you already touched on this.

Speaker 5

I'm sorry, I got on the call a little bit later.

Speaker 4

Can you just

Speaker 5

break out what channels maybe saw the worst of the destocking trends and which held up relatively better?

Speaker 2

I would say for us, And we look at a lot of market data and this was sort of supportive with the data, but really on the pro side, on our sanitary ware, because Sanitary Ware, as you know, is the largest product category for the company globally and in all the divisions, obviously. So that's where we experienced the most hit as far as destocking was on the pro sanitary wear side. And secondly would have been on our bathroom furniture on the retail side. So those are the 2 major impacts That we're tough to recover from this first half.

Speaker 5

Great. Appreciate it. Thanks.

Operator

Okay. And this concludes our question and answer session. I'd like to turn the conference back over to David Bruce for any closing remarks.

Speaker 2

Thank you for your time and interest today. We really appreciate your continued support of FTI. And also, Please note that we will be attending the Northland Capital Markets Conference on September 19. Stay well and if we don't connect

Operator

The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect your lines.

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