NASDAQ:CSBR Champions Oncology Q1 2024 Earnings Report Earnings HistoryForecast Champions Oncology EPS ResultsActual EPS-$0.19Consensus EPS N/ABeat/MissN/AOne Year Ago EPSN/AChampions Oncology Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$12.56 millionExpected RevenueN/ABeat/MissN/AYoY Revenue GrowthN/AChampions Oncology Announcement DetailsQuarterQ1 2024Date9/13/2023TimeN/AConference Call DateWednesday, September 13, 2023Conference Call Time4:30PM ETConference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfilePowered by Champions Oncology Q1 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrSeptember 13, 2023 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 6 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:01Greetings. Welcome to the Champions Oncology First Quarter Fiscal Year 20 24 Earnings Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. A question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. Please note this conference is being recorded. Operator00:00:23I will now turn the conference over to your host, Doctor. Ronnie Morris, CEO at Champions Oncology. You may begin. Speaker 100:00:33Good afternoon. I am Ronnie Morris, CEO of Champions Oncology. Joining me today is David Miller, our Chief Thank you for joining us for our quarterly earnings call. Before I begin, I will remind you that we will make forward looking statements during I'll start by pointing out that our prepared comments for today will be relatively brief as we Year 2023 along with the longer term strategic mission for the company. We also highlighted the challenges encountered such as the overall economic environment, which led to cancellations well in excess of our historical norms. Speaker 100:01:36Additionally, we identified operational issues that led to slower revenue conversion and put pressure on our operating results that could extend into fiscal year 20 As indicated, those challenges are impacting our current year's results. However, I am cautiously optimistic that we have made Significant progress towards reversing those trends. We have made the necessary operational changes with some key hires in internal restructuring that we're confident will lead On a positive note, our quarterly bookings have continued to grow and we're seeing a softening of the cancellations over the last couple of months retreating towards We continue to be excited about our expanding ex vivo platform, which we anticipate will lead to increased Sales and revenue growth over the coming quarters. In our Bio in our Clinical Biomarkers Services, we made As discussed over the years, the revenue from clinical work has a longer cycle than our traditional services, but With regards to Karelia, our wholly owned drug development subsidiary, our lead discovery programs are progressing well through the therapeutic discovery With our 2 lead programs exhibiting promising results, we have begun building therapeutic programs Around these targets, our platform has identified many other exciting targets and we are actively engaged Investors in an effort to raise capital to support and accelerate our growth. Speaker 100:03:36In summary, the quarter's performance was generally as expected. We anticipate that improvements will slowly take hold and put us back on a targeted path. Despite this being a challenging period, we We continue to have robust bookings, a comprehensive platform, a stellar reputation and a strong team that is poised for the next growth We are confident that we will emerge with strong revenue and profitability over the longer term. Now let me turn the call over to David Miller for a more detailed review of the Speaker 200:04:09Thanks, Ronny. Our full results on Form 10 Q will be filed with the SEC later today. Our first quarter revenue was $12,600,000 a decline of 9% from the Q1 of 2023. As highlighted on our year end call and reiterated by Ronny, the challenges encountered last year will impact our financial performance in the first half of twenty twenty four with a gradual improvement occurring over the course of the year. On a GAAP basis, our loss from operations for the Q1 of 2024 was $2,600,000 compared to a loss of $284,000 in the prior year. Speaker 200:04:48Included in the $2,600,000 loss were non cash expenses of stock comp and depreciation totaling approximately 900,000 Excluding these non cash items, our adjusted loss was $1,700,000 for the quarter compared to adjusted EBITDA of $450,000 in the year ago period. Turning the focus to our cash based results. The total cost of sales was $7,500,000 compared to $900,000 in our Q1 last year, an increase of 9%. The increase relative to the same period last year was primarily due to an increase in outsourced lab services and mouse costs. Due to the increase in cost of sales on lower revenue, Our gross margin for the quarter was 40% compared to 50% for the same period last year. Speaker 200:05:37The margin pressure will continue for the next few quarters, but we anticipate gradual improvement as our revenue accelerates over the course of the year, while our cost of sales will increase at a much slower rate. For the quarter, R and D expense was approximately $2,800,000 compared to $2,900,000 in the year ago Our R and D spend is split between our traditional R and D supporting our core business services and investing in our drug discovery platform. Approximately $1,200,000 was invested towards our drug discovery efforts during the quarter. Sales and marketing expense for the quarter was a flat $1,600,000 Our G and A expense was $2,300,000 compared to $1,900,000 in the year ago period, An increase of $400,000 The increase was primarily due to a small increase in compensation expense and the bad debt and credit loss allowances. Now Now turning to cash. Speaker 200:06:36We ended the year with $5,000,000 of cash on the we ended the quarter with $5,000,000 of cash on the balance sheet and no debt. For the quarter, cash used in operating activities was $3,800,000 with an additional $700,000 for investment in less equipment and $600,000 in financing activities as part of our stock repurchase plan. The accelerated cash burn for the quarter was due to multiple factors, including our net loss and the return of customer deposits on canceled studies, which reduced our deferred revenue and cash balance. As our operational results improved, cancellations decreased and with our bookings, which are a leading indicator to higher revenue, Continuing to grow, our cash position remains solid and will gradually increase over the second half of the year. In summation, Our Q1 financial results were mostly as expected, which was that the results would still be impacted by the challenges faced in our fiscal 2023. Speaker 200:07:33However, with our continued strength in bookings and with the operational corrections made beginning to take effect And with an improving economic environment we're experiencing, we're confident that despite some short term obstacles, our long term prospects are positive. We anticipate a Slow, but steady improvement in our operational results, including revenue growth and profitability as the year progresses. We look forward to our next Update in mid December when we report our Q2 results. We will now open the call for questions. Operator00:08:03Thank you. At this time, we will be conducting a question and answer And the first question today is coming from Matt Hewitt from Craig Hallum Capital Group. Matt, your line is live. Speaker 300:08:42Good afternoon. Thank you for taking the questions. Maybe first one regarding the landscape. Obviously, we've been hearing not just from you guys on your Q4 call, but Today and we've heard from others that it's just a really difficult environment right now. Pharma and Biotech Companies are Facing funding pressures, there's all sorts of issues. Speaker 300:09:04What are you hearing from your customers as far as these Cancellations are concerned. It sounds like it's coming down, but is that a function of them reprioritizing pipelines? Is it a function of Kind of shifting gears and maybe exiting one area to focus on something else and that's what this next leg is going to be? Or is there something else driving the I guess what's an improving booking situation? Speaker 400:09:31Yes. I think it's Speaker 100:09:33I think Speaker 400:09:33that is a combination of all of the above. I think that the cancellations that we had over the last couple of quarters were primarily from things that booked A little earlier and those I think were driven more by I would say the budgetary concerns of just Are they going to be funded? I think that the newer ones are more of a prioritization, where they're They might book something and then they might decide that with the landscape that they want to prioritize One thing over the other. I think as I would say 2 comments and these are all very general because there's so many anecdotes. But I would say 2 comments. Speaker 400:10:201, that we have palpable we have seen a palpable kind of a decrease in cancellations over the last couple of months. So it wasn't just 1 month or 2 months. Now it's the 3rd month. So we're kind of confident that From that perspective, those are moving in the right direction. And I would say the second thing is that, We feel like things are opening up more now in terms of the mood Or the feeling the biotechs feeling like things are opening up for them to Raise money and continue to fund their program. Speaker 400:11:02So certainly not the way it was a couple of years ago In terms of just a tremendous amount of influx and the feeling like there's always going to be money available, Well, we feel much better than we did, let's say, a year ago. Speaker 300:11:17Got it. So maybe more back to a more normalized I think so. Of capital. Okay. Got Speaker 400:11:23it. I think so. Speaker 300:11:26Okay. That's super helpful. And then Question regarding the gross margin. Some of the decline year on year was due to increased outsourcing that you guys are doing. Are any of those services something that in theory you guys could bring in house at some point to reduce your dependence on others to complete some of these studies? Speaker 400:11:48Yes. We could for some of them. I would say the biggest pressure on the gross margins was just some of the delayed studies and the repeating of studies, Which we think we have a pretty good handle on now and that goes to the mouse costs increase because we're just using more mice to get the same amount of work done. So I think that that those pressures on the gross margin are probably the largest pressures that I think the next Couple of months, certainly next couple of quarters, I think we're going to turn back around. Speaker 300:12:26Got it. And then maybe one last one for me and I'll hop back in the queue. I think you were commenting about on the biomarkers and some of the key hires that you were able to get there. You've seen an increase in lead gen and your clinical bookings there are improving. Operator00:12:45How should we Speaker 300:12:46be thinking about size Some of those types of studies are they bigger than your historical studies? Or Just I know they've got a longer lead time, so I'm just thinking theoretically those should be larger, right? Speaker 400:13:02Yes. They come in all different sizes, primarily because for certain types of these clinical biomarkers, you first sign A study just to see the validation of an assay. And then if you successfully validate the assay and The biotech or pharma likes the assay and the way it's working then they'll sign a larger study. So It comes in or it's a validated assay already and then it's a larger study to begin with. So I think that they're all different sizes. Speaker 400:13:37And from our perspective, I think it took us a couple of years to get our operations correct. I remember we had talked many years about How it just took us longer to get the labs running efficiently With the right type of regulatory and operational efficiencies, we've accomplished that. The second part was to get the business development team that could actually go out and spread the word that we are in new services, because this is a new service line for us. It's a relatively new service line for us. Get the word out that the high quality we do in Preclinical work, we can also do in clinical services as well. Speaker 400:14:21And that's why we're excited about this Key hires in the business development team, because we think now we're going to be able to go out and spread the word and let people know The high quality work that we do, which will lead to increased business, which we're already starting to see. Speaker 300:14:39That's great. Thank you. Operator00:14:44Thank you. The next question is coming from David Darren from Darren Capital. David, your line is live. Speaker 500:14:56Doctor. Morris, I wanted to ask you a question about your Hiring. I know that it's out there that the Champions is looking to hire. Are your results affecting your hiring goals? Are your hiring goals increasing or are they decreasing? Speaker 500:15:16And are these positions you're looking to fill More for entry level or higher level management in which you're seeking more seasoned employees? Speaker 400:15:27Yes. So we aren't we certainly have a couple of physicians we're looking to hire, but we do not have a lot of physicians We have a fairly good team. I mean, when I say good team, I mean, we have a very good team in terms of quality of people. But we have a We're I think fairly well positioned that I think we at this point considering certainly our history we have very few positions available. So I'm not sure the question in terms of hiring, but I don't think our hiring has changed. Speaker 400:16:03We have a certain expectation for the bookings. We have a certain expectation for the work We want to do and we have outfitted the organization to meet those expectations. And certainly for like the scientific operation, like the ex vivo platform And the biomarkers, we have built a team that has excess capacity because we need that team in place. We need The operational efficient operationally efficient with good quality and we expect that over the next year or 2 we'll be able to fill it up And we'll be able to continue to work efficiently. So I don't know that we have that many openings right now. Speaker 400:16:53We always have There's always some bit of turnover, but I think we're hiring the same we've always hired. Speaker 500:17:02Thank you. Thank you. And there were no Operator00:17:07other questions from the lines at this time. I would now like to hand the call back to Doctor. Morris for closing remarks. Speaker 400:17:16Thank you for joining us for our quarterly earnings call. A lot of good things happening at Champions Oncology. We're very excited about the drug discovery effort that we have. We're very excited about some of the new assays that we've been rolling out especially our ex vivo assay. We continue to be excited about Our in vivo work that we do and clearly the biomarker that we perform for biopharma. Speaker 400:17:45So On all areas, I think we continue to have an excellent reputation In the marketplace for doing good high quality work, we are scientifically inclined, collaborative And I think those are all the recipes for continued success. So we look forward to discussing those with you on our next quarterly call. And thank you everybody and have a good afternoon. Bye. Operator00:18:17Thank you. This does conclude today's conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. 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There are 6 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:01Greetings. Welcome to the Champions Oncology First Quarter Fiscal Year 20 24 Earnings Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. A question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. Please note this conference is being recorded. Operator00:00:23I will now turn the conference over to your host, Doctor. Ronnie Morris, CEO at Champions Oncology. You may begin. Speaker 100:00:33Good afternoon. I am Ronnie Morris, CEO of Champions Oncology. Joining me today is David Miller, our Chief Thank you for joining us for our quarterly earnings call. Before I begin, I will remind you that we will make forward looking statements during I'll start by pointing out that our prepared comments for today will be relatively brief as we Year 2023 along with the longer term strategic mission for the company. We also highlighted the challenges encountered such as the overall economic environment, which led to cancellations well in excess of our historical norms. Speaker 100:01:36Additionally, we identified operational issues that led to slower revenue conversion and put pressure on our operating results that could extend into fiscal year 20 As indicated, those challenges are impacting our current year's results. However, I am cautiously optimistic that we have made Significant progress towards reversing those trends. We have made the necessary operational changes with some key hires in internal restructuring that we're confident will lead On a positive note, our quarterly bookings have continued to grow and we're seeing a softening of the cancellations over the last couple of months retreating towards We continue to be excited about our expanding ex vivo platform, which we anticipate will lead to increased Sales and revenue growth over the coming quarters. In our Bio in our Clinical Biomarkers Services, we made As discussed over the years, the revenue from clinical work has a longer cycle than our traditional services, but With regards to Karelia, our wholly owned drug development subsidiary, our lead discovery programs are progressing well through the therapeutic discovery With our 2 lead programs exhibiting promising results, we have begun building therapeutic programs Around these targets, our platform has identified many other exciting targets and we are actively engaged Investors in an effort to raise capital to support and accelerate our growth. Speaker 100:03:36In summary, the quarter's performance was generally as expected. We anticipate that improvements will slowly take hold and put us back on a targeted path. Despite this being a challenging period, we We continue to have robust bookings, a comprehensive platform, a stellar reputation and a strong team that is poised for the next growth We are confident that we will emerge with strong revenue and profitability over the longer term. Now let me turn the call over to David Miller for a more detailed review of the Speaker 200:04:09Thanks, Ronny. Our full results on Form 10 Q will be filed with the SEC later today. Our first quarter revenue was $12,600,000 a decline of 9% from the Q1 of 2023. As highlighted on our year end call and reiterated by Ronny, the challenges encountered last year will impact our financial performance in the first half of twenty twenty four with a gradual improvement occurring over the course of the year. On a GAAP basis, our loss from operations for the Q1 of 2024 was $2,600,000 compared to a loss of $284,000 in the prior year. Speaker 200:04:48Included in the $2,600,000 loss were non cash expenses of stock comp and depreciation totaling approximately 900,000 Excluding these non cash items, our adjusted loss was $1,700,000 for the quarter compared to adjusted EBITDA of $450,000 in the year ago period. Turning the focus to our cash based results. The total cost of sales was $7,500,000 compared to $900,000 in our Q1 last year, an increase of 9%. The increase relative to the same period last year was primarily due to an increase in outsourced lab services and mouse costs. Due to the increase in cost of sales on lower revenue, Our gross margin for the quarter was 40% compared to 50% for the same period last year. Speaker 200:05:37The margin pressure will continue for the next few quarters, but we anticipate gradual improvement as our revenue accelerates over the course of the year, while our cost of sales will increase at a much slower rate. For the quarter, R and D expense was approximately $2,800,000 compared to $2,900,000 in the year ago Our R and D spend is split between our traditional R and D supporting our core business services and investing in our drug discovery platform. Approximately $1,200,000 was invested towards our drug discovery efforts during the quarter. Sales and marketing expense for the quarter was a flat $1,600,000 Our G and A expense was $2,300,000 compared to $1,900,000 in the year ago period, An increase of $400,000 The increase was primarily due to a small increase in compensation expense and the bad debt and credit loss allowances. Now Now turning to cash. Speaker 200:06:36We ended the year with $5,000,000 of cash on the we ended the quarter with $5,000,000 of cash on the balance sheet and no debt. For the quarter, cash used in operating activities was $3,800,000 with an additional $700,000 for investment in less equipment and $600,000 in financing activities as part of our stock repurchase plan. The accelerated cash burn for the quarter was due to multiple factors, including our net loss and the return of customer deposits on canceled studies, which reduced our deferred revenue and cash balance. As our operational results improved, cancellations decreased and with our bookings, which are a leading indicator to higher revenue, Continuing to grow, our cash position remains solid and will gradually increase over the second half of the year. In summation, Our Q1 financial results were mostly as expected, which was that the results would still be impacted by the challenges faced in our fiscal 2023. Speaker 200:07:33However, with our continued strength in bookings and with the operational corrections made beginning to take effect And with an improving economic environment we're experiencing, we're confident that despite some short term obstacles, our long term prospects are positive. We anticipate a Slow, but steady improvement in our operational results, including revenue growth and profitability as the year progresses. We look forward to our next Update in mid December when we report our Q2 results. We will now open the call for questions. Operator00:08:03Thank you. At this time, we will be conducting a question and answer And the first question today is coming from Matt Hewitt from Craig Hallum Capital Group. Matt, your line is live. Speaker 300:08:42Good afternoon. Thank you for taking the questions. Maybe first one regarding the landscape. Obviously, we've been hearing not just from you guys on your Q4 call, but Today and we've heard from others that it's just a really difficult environment right now. Pharma and Biotech Companies are Facing funding pressures, there's all sorts of issues. Speaker 300:09:04What are you hearing from your customers as far as these Cancellations are concerned. It sounds like it's coming down, but is that a function of them reprioritizing pipelines? Is it a function of Kind of shifting gears and maybe exiting one area to focus on something else and that's what this next leg is going to be? Or is there something else driving the I guess what's an improving booking situation? Speaker 400:09:31Yes. I think it's Speaker 100:09:33I think Speaker 400:09:33that is a combination of all of the above. I think that the cancellations that we had over the last couple of quarters were primarily from things that booked A little earlier and those I think were driven more by I would say the budgetary concerns of just Are they going to be funded? I think that the newer ones are more of a prioritization, where they're They might book something and then they might decide that with the landscape that they want to prioritize One thing over the other. I think as I would say 2 comments and these are all very general because there's so many anecdotes. But I would say 2 comments. Speaker 400:10:201, that we have palpable we have seen a palpable kind of a decrease in cancellations over the last couple of months. So it wasn't just 1 month or 2 months. Now it's the 3rd month. So we're kind of confident that From that perspective, those are moving in the right direction. And I would say the second thing is that, We feel like things are opening up more now in terms of the mood Or the feeling the biotechs feeling like things are opening up for them to Raise money and continue to fund their program. Speaker 400:11:02So certainly not the way it was a couple of years ago In terms of just a tremendous amount of influx and the feeling like there's always going to be money available, Well, we feel much better than we did, let's say, a year ago. Speaker 300:11:17Got it. So maybe more back to a more normalized I think so. Of capital. Okay. Got Speaker 400:11:23it. I think so. Speaker 300:11:26Okay. That's super helpful. And then Question regarding the gross margin. Some of the decline year on year was due to increased outsourcing that you guys are doing. Are any of those services something that in theory you guys could bring in house at some point to reduce your dependence on others to complete some of these studies? Speaker 400:11:48Yes. We could for some of them. I would say the biggest pressure on the gross margins was just some of the delayed studies and the repeating of studies, Which we think we have a pretty good handle on now and that goes to the mouse costs increase because we're just using more mice to get the same amount of work done. So I think that that those pressures on the gross margin are probably the largest pressures that I think the next Couple of months, certainly next couple of quarters, I think we're going to turn back around. Speaker 300:12:26Got it. And then maybe one last one for me and I'll hop back in the queue. I think you were commenting about on the biomarkers and some of the key hires that you were able to get there. You've seen an increase in lead gen and your clinical bookings there are improving. Operator00:12:45How should we Speaker 300:12:46be thinking about size Some of those types of studies are they bigger than your historical studies? Or Just I know they've got a longer lead time, so I'm just thinking theoretically those should be larger, right? Speaker 400:13:02Yes. They come in all different sizes, primarily because for certain types of these clinical biomarkers, you first sign A study just to see the validation of an assay. And then if you successfully validate the assay and The biotech or pharma likes the assay and the way it's working then they'll sign a larger study. So It comes in or it's a validated assay already and then it's a larger study to begin with. So I think that they're all different sizes. Speaker 400:13:37And from our perspective, I think it took us a couple of years to get our operations correct. I remember we had talked many years about How it just took us longer to get the labs running efficiently With the right type of regulatory and operational efficiencies, we've accomplished that. The second part was to get the business development team that could actually go out and spread the word that we are in new services, because this is a new service line for us. It's a relatively new service line for us. Get the word out that the high quality we do in Preclinical work, we can also do in clinical services as well. Speaker 400:14:21And that's why we're excited about this Key hires in the business development team, because we think now we're going to be able to go out and spread the word and let people know The high quality work that we do, which will lead to increased business, which we're already starting to see. Speaker 300:14:39That's great. Thank you. Operator00:14:44Thank you. The next question is coming from David Darren from Darren Capital. David, your line is live. Speaker 500:14:56Doctor. Morris, I wanted to ask you a question about your Hiring. I know that it's out there that the Champions is looking to hire. Are your results affecting your hiring goals? Are your hiring goals increasing or are they decreasing? Speaker 500:15:16And are these positions you're looking to fill More for entry level or higher level management in which you're seeking more seasoned employees? Speaker 400:15:27Yes. So we aren't we certainly have a couple of physicians we're looking to hire, but we do not have a lot of physicians We have a fairly good team. I mean, when I say good team, I mean, we have a very good team in terms of quality of people. But we have a We're I think fairly well positioned that I think we at this point considering certainly our history we have very few positions available. So I'm not sure the question in terms of hiring, but I don't think our hiring has changed. Speaker 400:16:03We have a certain expectation for the bookings. We have a certain expectation for the work We want to do and we have outfitted the organization to meet those expectations. And certainly for like the scientific operation, like the ex vivo platform And the biomarkers, we have built a team that has excess capacity because we need that team in place. We need The operational efficient operationally efficient with good quality and we expect that over the next year or 2 we'll be able to fill it up And we'll be able to continue to work efficiently. So I don't know that we have that many openings right now. Speaker 400:16:53We always have There's always some bit of turnover, but I think we're hiring the same we've always hired. Speaker 500:17:02Thank you. Thank you. And there were no Operator00:17:07other questions from the lines at this time. I would now like to hand the call back to Doctor. Morris for closing remarks. Speaker 400:17:16Thank you for joining us for our quarterly earnings call. A lot of good things happening at Champions Oncology. We're very excited about the drug discovery effort that we have. We're very excited about some of the new assays that we've been rolling out especially our ex vivo assay. We continue to be excited about Our in vivo work that we do and clearly the biomarker that we perform for biopharma. Speaker 400:17:45So On all areas, I think we continue to have an excellent reputation In the marketplace for doing good high quality work, we are scientifically inclined, collaborative And I think those are all the recipes for continued success. So we look forward to discussing those with you on our next quarterly call. And thank you everybody and have a good afternoon. Bye. Operator00:18:17Thank you. This does conclude today's conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.Read morePowered by