TSE:DOL Dollarama Q2 2024 Earnings Report C$167.80 -1.79 (-1.06%) As of 04:00 PM Eastern Earnings HistoryForecast Dollarama EPS ResultsActual EPSC$0.86Consensus EPS C$0.77Beat/MissBeat by +C$0.09One Year Ago EPSN/ADollarama Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$1.46 billionExpected Revenue$1.40 billionBeat/MissBeat by +$57.74 millionYoY Revenue GrowthN/ADollarama Announcement DetailsQuarterQ2 2024Date9/13/2023TimeN/AConference Call DateWednesday, September 13, 2023Conference Call Time10:30AM ETConference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress ReleaseEarnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Dollarama Q2 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrSeptember 13, 2023 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 13 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Morning, and welcome to the Dollarama Fiscal 20 24 Second Quarter Results Conference Call. Neil Rossy, President and CEO and J. P. Towner, CFO, will make a short presentation followed by a question and answer period open exclusively to financial analysts. The press release, financial statements and management's discussion and Analysis are available at dollarama.com in the Investor Relations section as well as on SEDAR. Operator00:00:27Before we begin, I have been asked by Dollarama to read the following message regarding forward looking statements. Dollarama's remarks today may contain forward looking statements about its current and future plans, expectations, intentions, results, levels of activity, performance, goals or achievements or any other future events or developments. Forward looking statements are based on information currently available to management and on estimates and assumptions made based on factors that management believes are appropriate and reasonable in the circumstances. However, there can be no assurance that such estimates and assumptions will prove to be correct. Many factors could cause actual results, levels of activity, performance, achievements, future events or developments to differ materially from those expressed or implied by the forward looking statements. Operator00:01:18As a result, Dollarama cannot guarantee that any forward looking statement will materialize and you are cautioned not to place undue reliance on these forward looking statements. For additional information on the assumptions and risks, please consult the cautionary statement regarding forward looking information contained in Dollarama's MD and A dated September 13, 2023, available on SEDAR. Forward looking statements represent management's expectations as of September 13, 2023, And except as may be required by law, Dollarama has no intention and undertakes no obligation to update or revise any forward looking statement whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise. I would now like to turn the conference call over to Neil Rossi. Speaker 100:02:04Thank you, operator, and good morning, everyone. For the Q2 of fiscal 2024, we delivered excellent operational and financial results, including a 15.5% increase in comparable store sales, a nearly 24% increase in EBITDA and an over 30% increase in earnings per share. More broadly, our performance through the 1st two quarters of the year reflects our ability to execute on our long standing commitment to providing convenience and compelling value across our product mix. Clearly, day in and day out, Dollarama continues to solidify its position in the shopping habits of consumers and as a key destination for a broad range of affordable everyday goods. We are extremely pleased by the sales momentum we are seeing across our product categories in addition to the sustained value seeking behavior from Canadian consumers. Speaker 100:03:07We are staying true to our price follower strategy to remain competitive and sparing no effort to help our customers get the most for their hard earned money. Through our ongoing merchandising activities, product refreshes and disciplined pricing actions, we are successfully delivering year round value to our customers on every product we sell, while also maintaining strong margins. In the current macroeconomic context And based on what we have been seeing year to date, including the quarter currently underway, we expect strong customer demand to continue through the second half of the fiscal year. This is reflected in the upward revision of our same store sales guidance range for the full year. On the real estate front, we opened 18 net new stores this quarter. Speaker 100:04:06This is compared to 13 in the same quarter last year and 21 last quarter. This year, our team worked are hard to frontload net new store openings to take some of the pressure off our 4th and historically busiest quarter of the year. These results speak to the execution of that plan. As mentioned last quarter, this Acceleration has no impact on our annual target of between 6070 net new stores. Subsequent to quarter end, we completed the previously announced acquisition of industrial properties adjacent to our centralized logistics operations and TMR in the Montreal area. Speaker 100:04:49As a reminder, the objective is to leverage these strategically located properties to the benefit of our logistics operations as we continue to move toward our 2,000 store target for Canada by 2,031. In LATAM, the team at Dollar City also continues to execute on its long term growth plans and consistently delivering strong financial and operational results. In their Q2, they opened 10 net new stores bringing the total number of Dollar City locations to 458. They are seeing and experiencing many of the same trends in their 4 markets of operation as we are here in Canada. That is to say strong traction from their customers on the value and convenience they are offering in the current economic context. Speaker 100:05:44This coupled with the team's solid execution of its growth strategy is resulting in strong performance quarter after quarter. Finally, on our CFO search, we launched a robust search process earlier this summer and I am pleased to say that it has been moving along well. We will of course provide the market with an update in due time. In the meantime, JP is still very much in the chair until the end of the month And we have a skilled team to lead this function in the interim until an announcement is made. I'd like to take this opportunity to acknowledge JP's outstanding contributions to Dollarama during his tenure with us, and I wish him the very best and his new endeavor. Speaker 100:06:28JP, over to you to review our Q2 financial results in more detail. Speaker 200:06:33Thank you, Neil. Thank you for your kind words. It's been a real pleasure for me to work alongside such a talented team and for such an outstanding But now let's take a look at our KPI performance and expectations for the remainder of the fiscal year. Dollarama delivered strong top line growth with a nearly 20% increase in sales and a 15.5% increase in same store sales in the Q2. This is all the more notable because this SSS growth is over and above our 13.2% in the same quarter last year. Speaker 200:07:11We are seeing robust performance across the board in terms of our 3 main product categories and their departments. We generated a strong gross margin representing 43.9% of sales compared to 43.6% of sales in the same quarter last year, driven by lower inbound shipping costs, partly offset by higher logistics costs. SG and A as a percentage of sales was 13.6% compared to 13.8% in the same quarter last year. This improvement year over year reflects our strong top line performance and the scaling benefits it is generating, which have enabled us to absorb increased labor costs. Our 50.1% share of Dollar City's net earnings was $11,400,000 compared to $7,700,000 for the same period last year, continuing to reflect their strong execution. Speaker 200:08:08On the back of our strong KPI performance, EBITDA increased by 24% to 457,000,000 representing 31.4 percent of sales and EPS was $0.86 representing a 30% increase over last year. On the capital deployment front, we were active on the NCIB in the quarter. We renewed our program in July, allowing for the repurchase of up to 4.8% of our public float over the next 12 month period. Utilizing our former and renewed NCIB, we repurchased nearly 2,900,000 shares in Q2 for $248,000,000 The Board also approved a quarterly cash dividend of $0.0708 per share. We expect to remain active on our NCIB and to allocate excess free cash flows towards our share repurchases. Speaker 200:09:05Some housekeeping regarding cash on hand. Our Q2 cash balance is inflated by the $88,000,000 which was subsequently used to settle the land acquisition in August. As a reminder, this capital expenditure is over and above our previously disclosed annual CapEx range outlook. Turning now to our expectations for the remainder of the year. Last quarter, we were cautious On same store sales growth in upcoming quarters as we wanted to see how the consumer would lap last year's strong performance. Speaker 200:09:40But that value seeking behavior has held strong and across all our product categories. Based on that performance And what we're seeing so far in the Q3, we have revised our full year SSS guidance to a range of between 10% 11%. This will be over and above 12% annual SSS last year. So far in Q3, SSS cadence is facing at the 2 year stack of approximately 21%. While the last mile of supply chain normalization is now behind us. Speaker 200:10:19We continue to expect additional margin expansion in the second half of the fiscal year. This will bring us in line with our annual guidance range for gross margin of 43.5% to 44.5% of sales. On SG and A, we also continue to expect to meet our guidance range of between 14.7% to 15.2%, given that our strong sales performance is enabling us to scale SG and A as a percentage of sales. So all in all, a stellar performance through the first half of the year. This is thanks to the team's ability to deliver on our value promise Canadian consumers who appreciate it more than ever in what remains a challenging economic context. Speaker 200:11:09That concludes our formal remarks. Now I'll turn it over to the operator for the Q and A. Operator00:11:50Our first question comes from the line of Mark Petrie with CIBC. Speaker 300:11:58Good morning. Thanks guys and congrats on an excellent quarter. I wanted to ask first maybe about just consumer traffic and spending patterns. Obviously, a lot of shifts there within your business and just More broadly, and I'm curious to hear your perspective on your assortment and shelf space allocation today. And is there To make adjustments there or are you comfortable with where you're sitting? Speaker 200:12:26Yes. So thanks for the question, Mark. It's interesting because last year, we were seeing trade down in the consumable space. And this year, there's still a lot of activity in consumables, but our general merchandise categories are also Performing across all departments. So, we're very comfortable with our mix in So we're very comfortable with the shelf space that we have for each department and each category. Speaker 200:12:59In fact, Those that shelf space hasn't moved that much over the past 2 years and it's just more activity in each of those departments. And then in terms of price points, I think we've made good progress on the rollout of the new price points. And more importantly, we're able to maintain our relative value across all categories and across all price points with introduction of our new products last year. Speaker 300:13:35Yes. Okay. Okay, perfect. Could Could I also ask you just about some of the factors within your SG and A? Obviously, the Q2 performance was fantastic and your guidance implies some bigger increase In the second half of the year sort of on a per store per week basis, is that a reflection of the October round of minimum wage increases or are there other factors that we should be considering? Speaker 200:13:58No. Part of it is what you mentioned on the October round, But part of it is also that we've been able to scale with a strong top line performance, our SG and A line. And I mean you can derive our second half expectations. And so we would hope to achieve Probably the better end of our SG and A guidance range if all things remain equal. But definitely, it's a question of scaling, But then there's the October round, which we're watching as well. Speaker 300:14:38Yes. Okay. Makes sense. And I'll just squeeze in one more if I could. And just On the AIR MILES arrangement, I know it wasn't a factor in Q2, but hoping you could just talk about any impact from that? Speaker 300:14:48And also if you could just elaborate on the Speaker 100:14:56We're too early in the process to really have A good idea of what kind of leverage can or might be gained from that. Speaker 300:15:10Okay, fair enough. Thanks and all the best. Speaker 200:15:13Okay. Thanks, Mark. Operator00:15:16Our next question comes on the line of Irene Nattel with RBC Capital Markets. Speaker 400:15:24Thanks. Can you hear me? Speaker 100:15:27Fantastically. Speaker 500:15:30Thank you, Neil. First of Speaker 400:15:32all, let me just say thank you to JP and we're going to miss you. And now on to my question. So I'm listening to your commentary and I'm looking at the implied guidance for the back half of the year. And if we're kind of at 10 ish percent same store sales 6 weeks into Q3, It looks as though the 4% to 6% implied same store sales guidance in H2, it looks fairly conservative. So can you walk through what the thinking is there and whether you're seeing any red flags that cause you to be more cautious than usual. Speaker 200:16:12So I mean, I think part of it is just our general philosophy around guidance. And there There is no red flags. It's quite the opposite. I mean, we were having a similar discussion, If you recall in Q1 in June, on the back of 17% SSS in Q1. And we wanted to see how we would be lapping last year's trade down. Speaker 200:16:42And we're very pleased with What we've seen in Q2 where we delivered 15.5% over 13% last year And then so far in Q3, as I mentioned in my remarks, we're seeing a 2 year stack of 21%. So Definitely pleased with how our value proposition is positioned, very pleased with the traction we're seeing And the guidance is what it is, but there's no red flags. Speaker 100:17:16But our conservatism often comes from things that have nothing To do with our execution, obviously. And so we're also just weary of contextually The situation with coming out of the pandemic Recovering and now there's a sensitivity you see in schools and this and that. And so just we want to remain Conservative for reasons that may have nothing to do with internal red flags. Speaker 400:17:51Understood. Thank you. And then just sort of thinking through kind of what the cadence of what happened during Q2. So when we had the call in June, I think you said same store sales were running about 11%. You ended the quarter 15.5%. Speaker 400:18:05So can you talk about performance through, I guess, June July, what you're seeing in back to school? And then if I may, just as we think about the assortment For the holiday season, where are you in terms of price point penetration versus where you might have been a year ago? Thank you. Speaker 200:18:27So historically, Speaker 100:18:33with the introduction of price points over the course of time, The mix itself has not really shifted very much, not just the last 2 years, but many, many years. And so the mix within any given department may shift yearly to some stuff that's a little On the lower end of our price range and other years a little higher depending on what's available to the buyers. But the amount of space we allocate per section and the amount of Views we list in any given department is extremely consistent. So when you see Slight changes in sales patterns, they have more to do with volume than they do with a change in our offering. That's really important, because I know that the flavor of the day is all of these YouTube things about Grocery and Food and Dollarama, but the reality is, we haven't grown our food sections or grocery sections. Speaker 100:19:42We have It still remains a small piece of our offering, just one of the many things we offer. And it's important to just keep things fact based as opposed to notionally based when we're having these discussions. For the question about the season coming up, Our sales our mix of goods is the same as it has been in the past with the introduction of the new price points, which will be scattered throughout our Halloween and Christmas offerings In the same percentages approximately as they have been in our ever digit. Speaker 400:20:34That's great. Thank you. Speaker 600:20:37Thank you. Operator00:20:39Our next question comes from the line of Chris Lee with Desjardins. Chris, your line is now open. Our next question will come from the line of Brian Morrison with TD. Speaker 700:21:09Good morning. Thank you. JP, it's been a pleasure and I certainly wish you well in your future endeavors. I want to turn to price checks. We're starting to see a slowdown in your degree of price increases that are being put through. Speaker 700:21:21Just wondering if you can talk through with the slowing of inflation, what you're seeing in terms of pricing with respect to the competition? Speaker 100:21:30So you're correct. We feel that even though domestically we're still feeling inflationary pressures on costs, On the import side, costs are fairly stable and controlled. And we're always, as you know, a price follower. And so we just Following the market, making sure that we're best value all year long and the same story, nothing's changed. Speaker 700:22:11Okay. I guess, Neil or JP, can you just talk about the timing of new store openings? I know you're looking to even them out throughout the year, but The second half typically has more availability. And with the economic challenges, I assume your film has to be reading. So what's your view on this? Speaker 700:22:25And is there Potential upside to your annual target. G and E both in I think 39 to date. Well, I wish you were right, Speaker 100:22:34But the phone never rings. Real estate is something that we must always chase down and stay on top of and manage. And so the amount of availability hasn't changed from years past to now. The difference is we've always wanted to open the bulk of our new store openings at the beginning of the year and it's always Been something that escaped us even though we've tried just to help our operations be able to focus on the 4th quarter sales. And the change is nothing more or the other way to look at it is, it's an incredible achievement by our real estate and operations team to just keep pushing the landlords, keep pushing our construction team and our store execution to front load it because the world has not changed, the real estate market has not changed, The availability has not changed. Speaker 100:23:37It's purely just a question of effort to get them opened at the beginning of the year. Even though we've always wanted to And failed in the past. We succeeded this year and we're Speaker 200:23:47all very proud of it. Speaker 700:23:49So Neil, does the effort translate in upside to your annual target? Speaker 200:23:55So we're still very comfortable with our annual guidance and we don't see any upside. So You should expect 60 to 70 net new stores this year. Speaker 600:24:07All right. Thanks very much, JP. Speaker 200:24:09Thanks, Brian. Operator00:24:12Our next question comes from the line of Chris Lee with Desjardins. Speaker 800:24:19Hi, I hope you can hear me now. Speaker 200:24:21Yes, we can hear you, Chris. Speaker 800:24:23Yes, sorry about that. I know it's probably too early to talk about next year, but Just at a high level, what do you think are some of the key puts and takes for same store sales growth for next year? Because on the one hand, you'll likely still have the benefit from Good demand, skill refresh, high penetration of the higher price point. But on the other hand, maybe some reversal from discount if inflation do thus moderate and macro conditions improve. So just wanted to see get your thoughts out, do you think positive same store sales is a reasonable expectation for next year? Speaker 800:24:55And Again, what are some of the key puts and takes we should be thinking about for next year? Thank you. Speaker 200:25:01So, I think you started your question the right way. It's too early to talk about next year's same store sales as We're just in September. So, but the puts and takes are all of the puts and takes that we would have in any year. So our business hasn't changed. The fundamentals are the same. Speaker 200:25:28And so as the year progresses, We'll start to have better visibility on next year's same store sales and that will translate into our guidance in March. But at this point, I mean our focus is on delivering Halloween, delivering Christmas, delivering on our annual guidance that we just raised. So It's too early to talk about what will happen 12 months from now. Speaker 800:25:54Okay. That's fair. And maybe a follow-up is just On the higher price point, it's been more than a year since you launched them. In our pricing surveys, we noticed that only a small percentage of products have been discontinued. And this is probably a rhetorical question, but does that mean that you're generally happy with how the consumer acceptance has been with the higher price points? Speaker 800:26:14And then secondly, what are some of the key learnings so far from the higher price points that you can share with us? Thanks. Speaker 100:26:21I think the learnings are the same as they've been for every price point introduction, which is One, we don't like to add price points until we really feel pressured that to offer the proper assortment to our customer. We pretty much feel we have to, to give a great shopping experience. And 2, Each time we do that because we wait so long and we spend so much time preparing, it's been well accepted. And so, our price point introduction has been well accepted because we use the same philosophy as we do for the other Price points, which is great relative value. We try to ensure that it's an additional sale and not just A multiple, so if we had a 10 pack pencil, we're not buying we're not making a $5 item with 50 pack pencil because that's not adding anything to our offering to the customers. Speaker 100:27:22So we wanted to be something that we could not otherwise offer before. And so really Similar to our new sale that makes the shopping experience more interesting. Speaker 800:27:36Okay. Thanks, Neil. And JP, let me also add best wishes to you as well. Thank you. Speaker 200:27:42Thanks, Chris. Operator00:27:49Our next question comes from the line of George Doumet with Scotiabank. Speaker 900:27:57Yes, hi. Congrats on a strong quarter. And JP, just wanted to wish you continued success in your future role. Just want to get started. Maybe Neil, you mentioned product refreshes. Speaker 100:28:06Can you Speaker 900:28:06talk a little bit about any themes there? And how should we think of maybe that quantum Versus historically how it's been. Speaker 100:28:16Product refreshes are in line with historical. Nothing has changed. I don't think there's a cadence increase or slowdown. We are seeing Over the last few years, there's certainly on the import side or overseas sourcing side, A slowdown in creativity and the desire of manufacturers to spend money on new molds and creation. So the onus shifted to the retailer in our case to ensure that we were either creating We're finding with more effort than before new and exciting items. Speaker 100:29:00That still remains the case. The world is not pouring creativity and orders into are overseas manufacturers yet. I think it's all cyclical and will likely come back at some point in the near future. But for now, our team has to keep doing what it's done for the last 2, 3 years, which is to spend more of its time Being creative as opposed to shopping what's being created by the manufacturers. Speaker 900:29:35Okay, thanks. And Based on the midpoint of the guidance, it looks like you guys are looking for 80 ish basis points of expansion in gross margins in the second half. How should we maybe think of the cadence between Q3 and Q4? And is the lower versus the upper end just predicated on kind of where consumers sorry, consumables land For the year or maybe other factors in there Speaker 100:29:55to consider? Speaker 200:29:56Well, as we said since the beginning of the year, we think that 2nd half gross margin is going to be stronger than first half in terms of year over year improvement. And then the question is really a question of mix, George, depending on what we see on the mix side in terms General merchandise versus consumables versus seasonal, which we can't predict. But so far what we're seeing is a well balanced mix, as I mentioned And Neil mentioned between our 3 main product categories. Speaker 900:30:32Okay, that's helpful. Just one last one, if I may. Can you maybe talk a little bit about the appetite for M and A When it comes to potentially another acquisition kind of outside of the Americas or our core markets where you can share best practices? Thanks. Speaker 100:30:48We're looking and have always looked at what Other markets in the world we're doing with regards to our sector. We will continue to do so. And when an opportunity makes sense and would be additive, We will jump on that opportunity as we did in creating the Dollar City business with our partners there. But for the moment, it's business as usual and we continue to keep our eyes on the world. Speaker 900:31:26Okay. Thank you. Speaker 100:31:30Thank you. Operator00:31:32Our next question comes from the line of Vishal Shreedhar with National Bank. Speaker 600:31:38Hi, thanks for taking my question and best of luck JP and congrats on the quarter. Regarding shrink, what are you seeing and how do you expect that to unfold over the quarters ahead? Do you expect that to become An increase in pressure or is it largely stable? Speaker 200:31:57No, I think it's largely stable. We've completed the vast majority of our accounts. And so we're I would say In the gross margin comments that I made earlier, the shrink trends are included in there. And so, Yes, we're comfortable with the shrink position that we have. The reality is It's gotten worse over the past 12 to 18 months, but we knew it going in the year. Speaker 200:32:32So we were able to factor it in our guidance. Speaker 600:32:37Okay. Thank you. And with respect to Dollarama's performance, Obviously, the same store sales growth has been outsized for many quarters now. Wondering if management sees that same store sales growth and is discerning any customer messages from it and that maybe there's opportunity to increase store sizes and that maybe the capacity plans that you have need to be revised earlier than anticipated. What should the market look into these accelerated trends? Speaker 100:33:17Obviously, we're all very satisfied with all the hard work we always put in and we're grateful that our customers recognize That hard work and the value and shopping experience we try to present them. I think we all feel Joanne Schwanel and the rest of the leadership team, particularly the ones who Spend the most time at store level that our store size feels like a good size to us, that 10,000 square feet box. There's always going to be exceptions where we have truly strong stores in smaller locations. And as always, Our real estate team works on trying to grow the size of those stores. But corporately, I don't think we have any change And our philosophy or outlook on what the right box looks like as a whole. Speaker 100:34:14And I think it's that simple. Speaker 600:34:20Okay. Thank you for your comments. Speaker 200:34:24Thanks, Vishal. Operator00:34:27Our next question comes from the line of Luke Cannon with Canaccord Genuity. Speaker 1000:34:34Thanks and good morning. JP, maybe one for you. I may have missed this in the discussion earlier, but as far as the mix assumption for H2, Is the assumption that demand remains well balanced for the rest of the year? Or I seem to remember on a prior call, you had mentioned that there was a view that potentially mix could continue to normalize towards general merchandise and seasonal products. Speaker 200:34:59I mean, as we mentioned, I think so far and like unfortunately, I can't predict the future. But so far, what we're seeing is a well balanced mix. I wouldn't say there's A major, major shift from consumable to general merchandise or to seasonal, We're continuing to see all the categories performing strongly and we're pleased with the results. Speaker 1000:35:29Okay. And then for my follow-up here, it's on the labor environment and more specifically what you guys have done internally to be able to be more efficient when it comes to Staffing and Sourcing Labor. You've made some investments in the past from an IT perspective on improving what you're doing there. I'm curious to know if Full benefit of those investments have begun flowing through the P and L yet or if that's a multi quarter expectation for benefits that you expect to see on the SG and A line? Speaker 200:35:59I'd say, as always, when you think about our SG and A line, We're always looking for ways to be as efficient as we can be. We're in the labor market that Where we have to always put our best foot forward and be competitive. And so far, We're pleased with the results we're seeing from our ability to attract talent and to retain talent as much as possible in the current environment. And we haven't had to curtail opening hours or any major disruptions to our operations like you may have heard in the industry in general. So, so far from a HR perspective, I think we've done a good job of Being efficient while making sure that we offer the best service possible to our customers and we have stores that are well merchandised Day in and day Speaker 1000:37:00out. Okay. Appreciate it. All the best JP. Operator00:37:09Our next question comes from the line of Martin Landry with Stifel Canada. Speaker 1100:37:19Hi, good morning. Can you hear me? Yes. Okay, good morning. My first question is on your the rollout of your $5 price points. Speaker 1100:37:33I was wondering where you're at in that process. Our analysis would suggest that Roughly 15% of your SKUs are above $4 And I was wondering, are you done with that process Speaker 100:37:54There's no target just to clarify the situation. There never was a target and there won't be a target with regards to how many SKUs are in any given price point. It's fluid and it really is dependent on the offering. So if The next 6 months presents a greater percentage of truly amazing $5 items, We will have more $5 items. And if the next 6 months produces a fantastic, let's say, Offering of $2 or $2.50 items, then that's the price point range that will grow. Speaker 100:38:41It's really Truly dependent on the items we create and the items presented to us And the costs associated with those items as the raw materials and the other things that affect those items, The cube size, so if they're large, then clearly, they're going to be pushed to the highest end of our price point range because freight will have a much greater factor. But again, it's all truly dependent on the offering. And if you see ebbs and flows of price points, it's purely just a question of opportunity. Speaker 1100:39:29Okay, that's helpful. And then just in terms of my second question, I'm trying to understand better the magnitude of your success And trying to look at past recession and if we look at the 2,008, 2009 recession, I believe that your same store sales growth were increasing by 7%, 8%. And in the last year now, you've been growing twice as fast, your same store sales. I'm wondering if you can Compare and contrast a little bit of situation of 2,008, 2009 versus the current environment? Speaker 100:40:11I'm much too young to do that, so I'll ask JP to do that. Speaker 200:40:19They're not comparable. If you look at 'eight, 'nine at the time, we're starting to introduce the $2 price points. So first of all, we didn't have the same product offering. Number 2, from a macro context, we were not in the Hyperinflationary scenario with government stimulus, you didn't have a supply chain driven A recession, but a financial crisis. So very hard and almost impossible To compare 4,809 to what we're going through right now and debate as are we In a recession right now, we're not. Speaker 200:41:05I mean, someone, Alan and me can opine on that. But just generally speaking, if you look at The Dollarama business model today versus 2,008, 2,009 and if you look at the macro environment, They're both very different. So hard to draw any parallel from 1 or the other. Speaker 1100:41:29Okay. That's it for me. Congrats on your results. Speaker 200:41:33Thanks, Martin. Operator00:41:36Our next question comes from the line of Cammy Chen with BMO Capital Markets. Speaker 500:41:44Hi, good morning. I'll be quick here. Just going back to the gross margin improvement year over year, it was quite notable. I just want to confirm, so JP, was it all due to the better year over year shipping costs? Like was there anything else, maybe just the Good performance in general merchandise that contributed as well. Speaker 500:42:06And did I hear correctly, in terms of The shipping cost tailwind, you're expecting that year over year improvement to be greater in the second half of the year? Speaker 200:42:19So you heard correct on both fronts. The gross I mean there are many lines and to go from sales to gross margins. But the lion's share of the improvement is a function of Our ability to make our cost structure in the supply chain more efficient than it was last year. And given our inventory turns over approximately 3.5 times A year, a lot of those benefits will be felt more in the second half than in the first half. Speaker 500:43:04Okay, understood. And I wanted to ask about your earnings pickup From the Dollar City, the last three quarters have been a little volatile, like I think in your fiscal Q4, it was $20,000,000 then Last quarter, 13, this quarter, 11. I don't know if that's from FX translation or something like that. Has there been any sort of shift in the Underlying businesses momentum? Thanks. Speaker 200:43:32No, it's more seasonality. Keep in mind that Darcy's year end is a December year end, so they tend to Halloween and Christmas in their Q4, whereas we have Halloween in our Q3 and Christmas in our Q4. So their seasonality tends to be a little bit more skewed towards Q4 and that explains most of What you're describing is volatile. Speaker 500:44:00Okay, understood. Thank you. Speaker 200:44:02Thanks, Operator00:44:04Tammy. Our next question comes from the line of Zane Burak with Credit Suisse. Speaker 1200:44:12Hi, this is Zane. Thanks a lot for taking the question and congrats on a great quarter. I wanted to go back to traffic. Can you talk about the strength there? Clearly, there are some macro pressures that are making the consumer more budget conscious. Speaker 1200:44:30But beyond that, can you point to anything specific of all your initiatives fueling that traffic, especially versus your discount peers, Whether it be new price points, merchandising, private label, marketing, etcetera. And separately, When I looked at the model historically, prior to COVID, I should say, your comps were largely driven by ticket growth, Although transactions also tended to be positive, I guess with double digit transaction growth over the past 7 quarters now. Do you think the composition of comps going forward will be different than historical trends, meaning more over indexed to traffic? And how does that affect your long term algo going forward? Sorry, I know it's a lot there, but Any color would be helpful. Speaker 200:45:25Well, that's a full question. The so on the first part, When you're talking about initiatives, I mean, all the items you talked about, price points, mix, Value prop merchandising. These are not initiatives. This is what we do day in and day out. So the Team has done a fantastic job at executing very well on all those fronts and that's translated And the results that you're seeing in Q2. Speaker 200:45:59So there's no specific initiative that I would point to except Of course, we've introduced a new price point, but that's not an initiative. But it's just the combination of Our value prop in the current environment with good merchandising and making sure we're in stock with the right goods and the right assortment, And that's driven our results, but there is no specific initiative. It's just good Consistent execution. Then on your second question on the composition of the comps, For sure, we've seen elevated transaction levels as there's been trade down over the past 18 months. So that's resulted in more frequent trips and more transactions. Speaker 200:46:51So saying that we were really questioning is will we be able Maintain the basket size with the increased transaction and we've been able to maintain and increase even the basket size over the past 18 months. So that's really what's driven the comps. Speaker 1200:47:10Got it. Thanks for the color, JP. And I guess somewhat related to that, I know you updated your long term store target in Canada not too long ago, I think it was a couple of years ago. But I guess given the strength in traffic, is there a consideration of accelerating units growth in outer years such that Maybe there is more of a land grab opportunity than you previously considered. And relatedly, should we expect an update on the Long term store target anytime soon. Speaker 1200:47:41I guess, can you speak to any work or analysis you've done on that front recently? Speaker 200:47:46Yes. So to the focus right now well, first of all, it was updated 2 years ago. So the focus right now 2 years in is just to deliver and execute. As we discussed earlier, we front loaded the growth of stores in the year. The pipeline in terms of real estate is looking good. Speaker 200:48:06But right now, it's just delivering on this year and next year and then we'll see what the future holds. Speaker 1200:48:16Understood. And it's been great to work with you JP and best of luck to you in the next chapter. Appreciate it. Speaker 200:48:21Thank you. Operator00:48:25Thank you. This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. 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There are 13 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Morning, and welcome to the Dollarama Fiscal 20 24 Second Quarter Results Conference Call. Neil Rossy, President and CEO and J. P. Towner, CFO, will make a short presentation followed by a question and answer period open exclusively to financial analysts. The press release, financial statements and management's discussion and Analysis are available at dollarama.com in the Investor Relations section as well as on SEDAR. Operator00:00:27Before we begin, I have been asked by Dollarama to read the following message regarding forward looking statements. Dollarama's remarks today may contain forward looking statements about its current and future plans, expectations, intentions, results, levels of activity, performance, goals or achievements or any other future events or developments. Forward looking statements are based on information currently available to management and on estimates and assumptions made based on factors that management believes are appropriate and reasonable in the circumstances. However, there can be no assurance that such estimates and assumptions will prove to be correct. Many factors could cause actual results, levels of activity, performance, achievements, future events or developments to differ materially from those expressed or implied by the forward looking statements. Operator00:01:18As a result, Dollarama cannot guarantee that any forward looking statement will materialize and you are cautioned not to place undue reliance on these forward looking statements. For additional information on the assumptions and risks, please consult the cautionary statement regarding forward looking information contained in Dollarama's MD and A dated September 13, 2023, available on SEDAR. Forward looking statements represent management's expectations as of September 13, 2023, And except as may be required by law, Dollarama has no intention and undertakes no obligation to update or revise any forward looking statement whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise. I would now like to turn the conference call over to Neil Rossi. Speaker 100:02:04Thank you, operator, and good morning, everyone. For the Q2 of fiscal 2024, we delivered excellent operational and financial results, including a 15.5% increase in comparable store sales, a nearly 24% increase in EBITDA and an over 30% increase in earnings per share. More broadly, our performance through the 1st two quarters of the year reflects our ability to execute on our long standing commitment to providing convenience and compelling value across our product mix. Clearly, day in and day out, Dollarama continues to solidify its position in the shopping habits of consumers and as a key destination for a broad range of affordable everyday goods. We are extremely pleased by the sales momentum we are seeing across our product categories in addition to the sustained value seeking behavior from Canadian consumers. Speaker 100:03:07We are staying true to our price follower strategy to remain competitive and sparing no effort to help our customers get the most for their hard earned money. Through our ongoing merchandising activities, product refreshes and disciplined pricing actions, we are successfully delivering year round value to our customers on every product we sell, while also maintaining strong margins. In the current macroeconomic context And based on what we have been seeing year to date, including the quarter currently underway, we expect strong customer demand to continue through the second half of the fiscal year. This is reflected in the upward revision of our same store sales guidance range for the full year. On the real estate front, we opened 18 net new stores this quarter. Speaker 100:04:06This is compared to 13 in the same quarter last year and 21 last quarter. This year, our team worked are hard to frontload net new store openings to take some of the pressure off our 4th and historically busiest quarter of the year. These results speak to the execution of that plan. As mentioned last quarter, this Acceleration has no impact on our annual target of between 6070 net new stores. Subsequent to quarter end, we completed the previously announced acquisition of industrial properties adjacent to our centralized logistics operations and TMR in the Montreal area. Speaker 100:04:49As a reminder, the objective is to leverage these strategically located properties to the benefit of our logistics operations as we continue to move toward our 2,000 store target for Canada by 2,031. In LATAM, the team at Dollar City also continues to execute on its long term growth plans and consistently delivering strong financial and operational results. In their Q2, they opened 10 net new stores bringing the total number of Dollar City locations to 458. They are seeing and experiencing many of the same trends in their 4 markets of operation as we are here in Canada. That is to say strong traction from their customers on the value and convenience they are offering in the current economic context. Speaker 100:05:44This coupled with the team's solid execution of its growth strategy is resulting in strong performance quarter after quarter. Finally, on our CFO search, we launched a robust search process earlier this summer and I am pleased to say that it has been moving along well. We will of course provide the market with an update in due time. In the meantime, JP is still very much in the chair until the end of the month And we have a skilled team to lead this function in the interim until an announcement is made. I'd like to take this opportunity to acknowledge JP's outstanding contributions to Dollarama during his tenure with us, and I wish him the very best and his new endeavor. Speaker 100:06:28JP, over to you to review our Q2 financial results in more detail. Speaker 200:06:33Thank you, Neil. Thank you for your kind words. It's been a real pleasure for me to work alongside such a talented team and for such an outstanding But now let's take a look at our KPI performance and expectations for the remainder of the fiscal year. Dollarama delivered strong top line growth with a nearly 20% increase in sales and a 15.5% increase in same store sales in the Q2. This is all the more notable because this SSS growth is over and above our 13.2% in the same quarter last year. Speaker 200:07:11We are seeing robust performance across the board in terms of our 3 main product categories and their departments. We generated a strong gross margin representing 43.9% of sales compared to 43.6% of sales in the same quarter last year, driven by lower inbound shipping costs, partly offset by higher logistics costs. SG and A as a percentage of sales was 13.6% compared to 13.8% in the same quarter last year. This improvement year over year reflects our strong top line performance and the scaling benefits it is generating, which have enabled us to absorb increased labor costs. Our 50.1% share of Dollar City's net earnings was $11,400,000 compared to $7,700,000 for the same period last year, continuing to reflect their strong execution. Speaker 200:08:08On the back of our strong KPI performance, EBITDA increased by 24% to 457,000,000 representing 31.4 percent of sales and EPS was $0.86 representing a 30% increase over last year. On the capital deployment front, we were active on the NCIB in the quarter. We renewed our program in July, allowing for the repurchase of up to 4.8% of our public float over the next 12 month period. Utilizing our former and renewed NCIB, we repurchased nearly 2,900,000 shares in Q2 for $248,000,000 The Board also approved a quarterly cash dividend of $0.0708 per share. We expect to remain active on our NCIB and to allocate excess free cash flows towards our share repurchases. Speaker 200:09:05Some housekeeping regarding cash on hand. Our Q2 cash balance is inflated by the $88,000,000 which was subsequently used to settle the land acquisition in August. As a reminder, this capital expenditure is over and above our previously disclosed annual CapEx range outlook. Turning now to our expectations for the remainder of the year. Last quarter, we were cautious On same store sales growth in upcoming quarters as we wanted to see how the consumer would lap last year's strong performance. Speaker 200:09:40But that value seeking behavior has held strong and across all our product categories. Based on that performance And what we're seeing so far in the Q3, we have revised our full year SSS guidance to a range of between 10% 11%. This will be over and above 12% annual SSS last year. So far in Q3, SSS cadence is facing at the 2 year stack of approximately 21%. While the last mile of supply chain normalization is now behind us. Speaker 200:10:19We continue to expect additional margin expansion in the second half of the fiscal year. This will bring us in line with our annual guidance range for gross margin of 43.5% to 44.5% of sales. On SG and A, we also continue to expect to meet our guidance range of between 14.7% to 15.2%, given that our strong sales performance is enabling us to scale SG and A as a percentage of sales. So all in all, a stellar performance through the first half of the year. This is thanks to the team's ability to deliver on our value promise Canadian consumers who appreciate it more than ever in what remains a challenging economic context. Speaker 200:11:09That concludes our formal remarks. Now I'll turn it over to the operator for the Q and A. Operator00:11:50Our first question comes from the line of Mark Petrie with CIBC. Speaker 300:11:58Good morning. Thanks guys and congrats on an excellent quarter. I wanted to ask first maybe about just consumer traffic and spending patterns. Obviously, a lot of shifts there within your business and just More broadly, and I'm curious to hear your perspective on your assortment and shelf space allocation today. And is there To make adjustments there or are you comfortable with where you're sitting? Speaker 200:12:26Yes. So thanks for the question, Mark. It's interesting because last year, we were seeing trade down in the consumable space. And this year, there's still a lot of activity in consumables, but our general merchandise categories are also Performing across all departments. So, we're very comfortable with our mix in So we're very comfortable with the shelf space that we have for each department and each category. Speaker 200:12:59In fact, Those that shelf space hasn't moved that much over the past 2 years and it's just more activity in each of those departments. And then in terms of price points, I think we've made good progress on the rollout of the new price points. And more importantly, we're able to maintain our relative value across all categories and across all price points with introduction of our new products last year. Speaker 300:13:35Yes. Okay. Okay, perfect. Could Could I also ask you just about some of the factors within your SG and A? Obviously, the Q2 performance was fantastic and your guidance implies some bigger increase In the second half of the year sort of on a per store per week basis, is that a reflection of the October round of minimum wage increases or are there other factors that we should be considering? Speaker 200:13:58No. Part of it is what you mentioned on the October round, But part of it is also that we've been able to scale with a strong top line performance, our SG and A line. And I mean you can derive our second half expectations. And so we would hope to achieve Probably the better end of our SG and A guidance range if all things remain equal. But definitely, it's a question of scaling, But then there's the October round, which we're watching as well. Speaker 300:14:38Yes. Okay. Makes sense. And I'll just squeeze in one more if I could. And just On the AIR MILES arrangement, I know it wasn't a factor in Q2, but hoping you could just talk about any impact from that? Speaker 300:14:48And also if you could just elaborate on the Speaker 100:14:56We're too early in the process to really have A good idea of what kind of leverage can or might be gained from that. Speaker 300:15:10Okay, fair enough. Thanks and all the best. Speaker 200:15:13Okay. Thanks, Mark. Operator00:15:16Our next question comes on the line of Irene Nattel with RBC Capital Markets. Speaker 400:15:24Thanks. Can you hear me? Speaker 100:15:27Fantastically. Speaker 500:15:30Thank you, Neil. First of Speaker 400:15:32all, let me just say thank you to JP and we're going to miss you. And now on to my question. So I'm listening to your commentary and I'm looking at the implied guidance for the back half of the year. And if we're kind of at 10 ish percent same store sales 6 weeks into Q3, It looks as though the 4% to 6% implied same store sales guidance in H2, it looks fairly conservative. So can you walk through what the thinking is there and whether you're seeing any red flags that cause you to be more cautious than usual. Speaker 200:16:12So I mean, I think part of it is just our general philosophy around guidance. And there There is no red flags. It's quite the opposite. I mean, we were having a similar discussion, If you recall in Q1 in June, on the back of 17% SSS in Q1. And we wanted to see how we would be lapping last year's trade down. Speaker 200:16:42And we're very pleased with What we've seen in Q2 where we delivered 15.5% over 13% last year And then so far in Q3, as I mentioned in my remarks, we're seeing a 2 year stack of 21%. So Definitely pleased with how our value proposition is positioned, very pleased with the traction we're seeing And the guidance is what it is, but there's no red flags. Speaker 100:17:16But our conservatism often comes from things that have nothing To do with our execution, obviously. And so we're also just weary of contextually The situation with coming out of the pandemic Recovering and now there's a sensitivity you see in schools and this and that. And so just we want to remain Conservative for reasons that may have nothing to do with internal red flags. Speaker 400:17:51Understood. Thank you. And then just sort of thinking through kind of what the cadence of what happened during Q2. So when we had the call in June, I think you said same store sales were running about 11%. You ended the quarter 15.5%. Speaker 400:18:05So can you talk about performance through, I guess, June July, what you're seeing in back to school? And then if I may, just as we think about the assortment For the holiday season, where are you in terms of price point penetration versus where you might have been a year ago? Thank you. Speaker 200:18:27So historically, Speaker 100:18:33with the introduction of price points over the course of time, The mix itself has not really shifted very much, not just the last 2 years, but many, many years. And so the mix within any given department may shift yearly to some stuff that's a little On the lower end of our price range and other years a little higher depending on what's available to the buyers. But the amount of space we allocate per section and the amount of Views we list in any given department is extremely consistent. So when you see Slight changes in sales patterns, they have more to do with volume than they do with a change in our offering. That's really important, because I know that the flavor of the day is all of these YouTube things about Grocery and Food and Dollarama, but the reality is, we haven't grown our food sections or grocery sections. Speaker 100:19:42We have It still remains a small piece of our offering, just one of the many things we offer. And it's important to just keep things fact based as opposed to notionally based when we're having these discussions. For the question about the season coming up, Our sales our mix of goods is the same as it has been in the past with the introduction of the new price points, which will be scattered throughout our Halloween and Christmas offerings In the same percentages approximately as they have been in our ever digit. Speaker 400:20:34That's great. Thank you. Speaker 600:20:37Thank you. Operator00:20:39Our next question comes from the line of Chris Lee with Desjardins. Chris, your line is now open. Our next question will come from the line of Brian Morrison with TD. Speaker 700:21:09Good morning. Thank you. JP, it's been a pleasure and I certainly wish you well in your future endeavors. I want to turn to price checks. We're starting to see a slowdown in your degree of price increases that are being put through. Speaker 700:21:21Just wondering if you can talk through with the slowing of inflation, what you're seeing in terms of pricing with respect to the competition? Speaker 100:21:30So you're correct. We feel that even though domestically we're still feeling inflationary pressures on costs, On the import side, costs are fairly stable and controlled. And we're always, as you know, a price follower. And so we just Following the market, making sure that we're best value all year long and the same story, nothing's changed. Speaker 700:22:11Okay. I guess, Neil or JP, can you just talk about the timing of new store openings? I know you're looking to even them out throughout the year, but The second half typically has more availability. And with the economic challenges, I assume your film has to be reading. So what's your view on this? Speaker 700:22:25And is there Potential upside to your annual target. G and E both in I think 39 to date. Well, I wish you were right, Speaker 100:22:34But the phone never rings. Real estate is something that we must always chase down and stay on top of and manage. And so the amount of availability hasn't changed from years past to now. The difference is we've always wanted to open the bulk of our new store openings at the beginning of the year and it's always Been something that escaped us even though we've tried just to help our operations be able to focus on the 4th quarter sales. And the change is nothing more or the other way to look at it is, it's an incredible achievement by our real estate and operations team to just keep pushing the landlords, keep pushing our construction team and our store execution to front load it because the world has not changed, the real estate market has not changed, The availability has not changed. Speaker 100:23:37It's purely just a question of effort to get them opened at the beginning of the year. Even though we've always wanted to And failed in the past. We succeeded this year and we're Speaker 200:23:47all very proud of it. Speaker 700:23:49So Neil, does the effort translate in upside to your annual target? Speaker 200:23:55So we're still very comfortable with our annual guidance and we don't see any upside. So You should expect 60 to 70 net new stores this year. Speaker 600:24:07All right. Thanks very much, JP. Speaker 200:24:09Thanks, Brian. Operator00:24:12Our next question comes from the line of Chris Lee with Desjardins. Speaker 800:24:19Hi, I hope you can hear me now. Speaker 200:24:21Yes, we can hear you, Chris. Speaker 800:24:23Yes, sorry about that. I know it's probably too early to talk about next year, but Just at a high level, what do you think are some of the key puts and takes for same store sales growth for next year? Because on the one hand, you'll likely still have the benefit from Good demand, skill refresh, high penetration of the higher price point. But on the other hand, maybe some reversal from discount if inflation do thus moderate and macro conditions improve. So just wanted to see get your thoughts out, do you think positive same store sales is a reasonable expectation for next year? Speaker 800:24:55And Again, what are some of the key puts and takes we should be thinking about for next year? Thank you. Speaker 200:25:01So, I think you started your question the right way. It's too early to talk about next year's same store sales as We're just in September. So, but the puts and takes are all of the puts and takes that we would have in any year. So our business hasn't changed. The fundamentals are the same. Speaker 200:25:28And so as the year progresses, We'll start to have better visibility on next year's same store sales and that will translate into our guidance in March. But at this point, I mean our focus is on delivering Halloween, delivering Christmas, delivering on our annual guidance that we just raised. So It's too early to talk about what will happen 12 months from now. Speaker 800:25:54Okay. That's fair. And maybe a follow-up is just On the higher price point, it's been more than a year since you launched them. In our pricing surveys, we noticed that only a small percentage of products have been discontinued. And this is probably a rhetorical question, but does that mean that you're generally happy with how the consumer acceptance has been with the higher price points? Speaker 800:26:14And then secondly, what are some of the key learnings so far from the higher price points that you can share with us? Thanks. Speaker 100:26:21I think the learnings are the same as they've been for every price point introduction, which is One, we don't like to add price points until we really feel pressured that to offer the proper assortment to our customer. We pretty much feel we have to, to give a great shopping experience. And 2, Each time we do that because we wait so long and we spend so much time preparing, it's been well accepted. And so, our price point introduction has been well accepted because we use the same philosophy as we do for the other Price points, which is great relative value. We try to ensure that it's an additional sale and not just A multiple, so if we had a 10 pack pencil, we're not buying we're not making a $5 item with 50 pack pencil because that's not adding anything to our offering to the customers. Speaker 100:27:22So we wanted to be something that we could not otherwise offer before. And so really Similar to our new sale that makes the shopping experience more interesting. Speaker 800:27:36Okay. Thanks, Neil. And JP, let me also add best wishes to you as well. Thank you. Speaker 200:27:42Thanks, Chris. Operator00:27:49Our next question comes from the line of George Doumet with Scotiabank. Speaker 900:27:57Yes, hi. Congrats on a strong quarter. And JP, just wanted to wish you continued success in your future role. Just want to get started. Maybe Neil, you mentioned product refreshes. Speaker 100:28:06Can you Speaker 900:28:06talk a little bit about any themes there? And how should we think of maybe that quantum Versus historically how it's been. Speaker 100:28:16Product refreshes are in line with historical. Nothing has changed. I don't think there's a cadence increase or slowdown. We are seeing Over the last few years, there's certainly on the import side or overseas sourcing side, A slowdown in creativity and the desire of manufacturers to spend money on new molds and creation. So the onus shifted to the retailer in our case to ensure that we were either creating We're finding with more effort than before new and exciting items. Speaker 100:29:00That still remains the case. The world is not pouring creativity and orders into are overseas manufacturers yet. I think it's all cyclical and will likely come back at some point in the near future. But for now, our team has to keep doing what it's done for the last 2, 3 years, which is to spend more of its time Being creative as opposed to shopping what's being created by the manufacturers. Speaker 900:29:35Okay, thanks. And Based on the midpoint of the guidance, it looks like you guys are looking for 80 ish basis points of expansion in gross margins in the second half. How should we maybe think of the cadence between Q3 and Q4? And is the lower versus the upper end just predicated on kind of where consumers sorry, consumables land For the year or maybe other factors in there Speaker 100:29:55to consider? Speaker 200:29:56Well, as we said since the beginning of the year, we think that 2nd half gross margin is going to be stronger than first half in terms of year over year improvement. And then the question is really a question of mix, George, depending on what we see on the mix side in terms General merchandise versus consumables versus seasonal, which we can't predict. But so far what we're seeing is a well balanced mix, as I mentioned And Neil mentioned between our 3 main product categories. Speaker 900:30:32Okay, that's helpful. Just one last one, if I may. Can you maybe talk a little bit about the appetite for M and A When it comes to potentially another acquisition kind of outside of the Americas or our core markets where you can share best practices? Thanks. Speaker 100:30:48We're looking and have always looked at what Other markets in the world we're doing with regards to our sector. We will continue to do so. And when an opportunity makes sense and would be additive, We will jump on that opportunity as we did in creating the Dollar City business with our partners there. But for the moment, it's business as usual and we continue to keep our eyes on the world. Speaker 900:31:26Okay. Thank you. Speaker 100:31:30Thank you. Operator00:31:32Our next question comes from the line of Vishal Shreedhar with National Bank. Speaker 600:31:38Hi, thanks for taking my question and best of luck JP and congrats on the quarter. Regarding shrink, what are you seeing and how do you expect that to unfold over the quarters ahead? Do you expect that to become An increase in pressure or is it largely stable? Speaker 200:31:57No, I think it's largely stable. We've completed the vast majority of our accounts. And so we're I would say In the gross margin comments that I made earlier, the shrink trends are included in there. And so, Yes, we're comfortable with the shrink position that we have. The reality is It's gotten worse over the past 12 to 18 months, but we knew it going in the year. Speaker 200:32:32So we were able to factor it in our guidance. Speaker 600:32:37Okay. Thank you. And with respect to Dollarama's performance, Obviously, the same store sales growth has been outsized for many quarters now. Wondering if management sees that same store sales growth and is discerning any customer messages from it and that maybe there's opportunity to increase store sizes and that maybe the capacity plans that you have need to be revised earlier than anticipated. What should the market look into these accelerated trends? Speaker 100:33:17Obviously, we're all very satisfied with all the hard work we always put in and we're grateful that our customers recognize That hard work and the value and shopping experience we try to present them. I think we all feel Joanne Schwanel and the rest of the leadership team, particularly the ones who Spend the most time at store level that our store size feels like a good size to us, that 10,000 square feet box. There's always going to be exceptions where we have truly strong stores in smaller locations. And as always, Our real estate team works on trying to grow the size of those stores. But corporately, I don't think we have any change And our philosophy or outlook on what the right box looks like as a whole. Speaker 100:34:14And I think it's that simple. Speaker 600:34:20Okay. Thank you for your comments. Speaker 200:34:24Thanks, Vishal. Operator00:34:27Our next question comes from the line of Luke Cannon with Canaccord Genuity. Speaker 1000:34:34Thanks and good morning. JP, maybe one for you. I may have missed this in the discussion earlier, but as far as the mix assumption for H2, Is the assumption that demand remains well balanced for the rest of the year? Or I seem to remember on a prior call, you had mentioned that there was a view that potentially mix could continue to normalize towards general merchandise and seasonal products. Speaker 200:34:59I mean, as we mentioned, I think so far and like unfortunately, I can't predict the future. But so far, what we're seeing is a well balanced mix. I wouldn't say there's A major, major shift from consumable to general merchandise or to seasonal, We're continuing to see all the categories performing strongly and we're pleased with the results. Speaker 1000:35:29Okay. And then for my follow-up here, it's on the labor environment and more specifically what you guys have done internally to be able to be more efficient when it comes to Staffing and Sourcing Labor. You've made some investments in the past from an IT perspective on improving what you're doing there. I'm curious to know if Full benefit of those investments have begun flowing through the P and L yet or if that's a multi quarter expectation for benefits that you expect to see on the SG and A line? Speaker 200:35:59I'd say, as always, when you think about our SG and A line, We're always looking for ways to be as efficient as we can be. We're in the labor market that Where we have to always put our best foot forward and be competitive. And so far, We're pleased with the results we're seeing from our ability to attract talent and to retain talent as much as possible in the current environment. And we haven't had to curtail opening hours or any major disruptions to our operations like you may have heard in the industry in general. So, so far from a HR perspective, I think we've done a good job of Being efficient while making sure that we offer the best service possible to our customers and we have stores that are well merchandised Day in and day Speaker 1000:37:00out. Okay. Appreciate it. All the best JP. Operator00:37:09Our next question comes from the line of Martin Landry with Stifel Canada. Speaker 1100:37:19Hi, good morning. Can you hear me? Yes. Okay, good morning. My first question is on your the rollout of your $5 price points. Speaker 1100:37:33I was wondering where you're at in that process. Our analysis would suggest that Roughly 15% of your SKUs are above $4 And I was wondering, are you done with that process Speaker 100:37:54There's no target just to clarify the situation. There never was a target and there won't be a target with regards to how many SKUs are in any given price point. It's fluid and it really is dependent on the offering. So if The next 6 months presents a greater percentage of truly amazing $5 items, We will have more $5 items. And if the next 6 months produces a fantastic, let's say, Offering of $2 or $2.50 items, then that's the price point range that will grow. Speaker 100:38:41It's really Truly dependent on the items we create and the items presented to us And the costs associated with those items as the raw materials and the other things that affect those items, The cube size, so if they're large, then clearly, they're going to be pushed to the highest end of our price point range because freight will have a much greater factor. But again, it's all truly dependent on the offering. And if you see ebbs and flows of price points, it's purely just a question of opportunity. Speaker 1100:39:29Okay, that's helpful. And then just in terms of my second question, I'm trying to understand better the magnitude of your success And trying to look at past recession and if we look at the 2,008, 2009 recession, I believe that your same store sales growth were increasing by 7%, 8%. And in the last year now, you've been growing twice as fast, your same store sales. I'm wondering if you can Compare and contrast a little bit of situation of 2,008, 2009 versus the current environment? Speaker 100:40:11I'm much too young to do that, so I'll ask JP to do that. Speaker 200:40:19They're not comparable. If you look at 'eight, 'nine at the time, we're starting to introduce the $2 price points. So first of all, we didn't have the same product offering. Number 2, from a macro context, we were not in the Hyperinflationary scenario with government stimulus, you didn't have a supply chain driven A recession, but a financial crisis. So very hard and almost impossible To compare 4,809 to what we're going through right now and debate as are we In a recession right now, we're not. Speaker 200:41:05I mean, someone, Alan and me can opine on that. But just generally speaking, if you look at The Dollarama business model today versus 2,008, 2,009 and if you look at the macro environment, They're both very different. So hard to draw any parallel from 1 or the other. Speaker 1100:41:29Okay. That's it for me. Congrats on your results. Speaker 200:41:33Thanks, Martin. Operator00:41:36Our next question comes from the line of Cammy Chen with BMO Capital Markets. Speaker 500:41:44Hi, good morning. I'll be quick here. Just going back to the gross margin improvement year over year, it was quite notable. I just want to confirm, so JP, was it all due to the better year over year shipping costs? Like was there anything else, maybe just the Good performance in general merchandise that contributed as well. Speaker 500:42:06And did I hear correctly, in terms of The shipping cost tailwind, you're expecting that year over year improvement to be greater in the second half of the year? Speaker 200:42:19So you heard correct on both fronts. The gross I mean there are many lines and to go from sales to gross margins. But the lion's share of the improvement is a function of Our ability to make our cost structure in the supply chain more efficient than it was last year. And given our inventory turns over approximately 3.5 times A year, a lot of those benefits will be felt more in the second half than in the first half. Speaker 500:43:04Okay, understood. And I wanted to ask about your earnings pickup From the Dollar City, the last three quarters have been a little volatile, like I think in your fiscal Q4, it was $20,000,000 then Last quarter, 13, this quarter, 11. I don't know if that's from FX translation or something like that. Has there been any sort of shift in the Underlying businesses momentum? Thanks. Speaker 200:43:32No, it's more seasonality. Keep in mind that Darcy's year end is a December year end, so they tend to Halloween and Christmas in their Q4, whereas we have Halloween in our Q3 and Christmas in our Q4. So their seasonality tends to be a little bit more skewed towards Q4 and that explains most of What you're describing is volatile. Speaker 500:44:00Okay, understood. Thank you. Speaker 200:44:02Thanks, Operator00:44:04Tammy. Our next question comes from the line of Zane Burak with Credit Suisse. Speaker 1200:44:12Hi, this is Zane. Thanks a lot for taking the question and congrats on a great quarter. I wanted to go back to traffic. Can you talk about the strength there? Clearly, there are some macro pressures that are making the consumer more budget conscious. Speaker 1200:44:30But beyond that, can you point to anything specific of all your initiatives fueling that traffic, especially versus your discount peers, Whether it be new price points, merchandising, private label, marketing, etcetera. And separately, When I looked at the model historically, prior to COVID, I should say, your comps were largely driven by ticket growth, Although transactions also tended to be positive, I guess with double digit transaction growth over the past 7 quarters now. Do you think the composition of comps going forward will be different than historical trends, meaning more over indexed to traffic? And how does that affect your long term algo going forward? Sorry, I know it's a lot there, but Any color would be helpful. Speaker 200:45:25Well, that's a full question. The so on the first part, When you're talking about initiatives, I mean, all the items you talked about, price points, mix, Value prop merchandising. These are not initiatives. This is what we do day in and day out. So the Team has done a fantastic job at executing very well on all those fronts and that's translated And the results that you're seeing in Q2. Speaker 200:45:59So there's no specific initiative that I would point to except Of course, we've introduced a new price point, but that's not an initiative. But it's just the combination of Our value prop in the current environment with good merchandising and making sure we're in stock with the right goods and the right assortment, And that's driven our results, but there is no specific initiative. It's just good Consistent execution. Then on your second question on the composition of the comps, For sure, we've seen elevated transaction levels as there's been trade down over the past 18 months. So that's resulted in more frequent trips and more transactions. Speaker 200:46:51So saying that we were really questioning is will we be able Maintain the basket size with the increased transaction and we've been able to maintain and increase even the basket size over the past 18 months. So that's really what's driven the comps. Speaker 1200:47:10Got it. Thanks for the color, JP. And I guess somewhat related to that, I know you updated your long term store target in Canada not too long ago, I think it was a couple of years ago. But I guess given the strength in traffic, is there a consideration of accelerating units growth in outer years such that Maybe there is more of a land grab opportunity than you previously considered. And relatedly, should we expect an update on the Long term store target anytime soon. Speaker 1200:47:41I guess, can you speak to any work or analysis you've done on that front recently? Speaker 200:47:46Yes. So to the focus right now well, first of all, it was updated 2 years ago. So the focus right now 2 years in is just to deliver and execute. As we discussed earlier, we front loaded the growth of stores in the year. The pipeline in terms of real estate is looking good. Speaker 200:48:06But right now, it's just delivering on this year and next year and then we'll see what the future holds. Speaker 1200:48:16Understood. And it's been great to work with you JP and best of luck to you in the next chapter. Appreciate it. Speaker 200:48:21Thank you. Operator00:48:25Thank you. This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.Read morePowered by