NYSE:YEXT Yext Q2 2024 Earnings Report $6.12 +0.04 (+0.58%) Closing price 04/17/2025 03:59 PM EasternExtended Trading$6.12 0.00 (0.00%) As of 04/17/2025 04:07 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. Earnings HistoryForecast Yext EPS ResultsActual EPS$0.06Consensus EPS $0.06Beat/MissMissed by -$0.00One Year Ago EPS-$0.16Yext Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$102.60 millionExpected Revenue$101.97 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$630.00 thousandYoY Revenue Growth+1.70%Yext Announcement DetailsQuarterQ2 2024Date9/6/2023TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateWednesday, September 6, 2023Conference Call Time5:00PM ETUpcoming EarningsYext's Q1 2026 earnings is scheduled for Monday, June 9, 2025, with a conference call scheduled on Friday, June 6, 2025 at 4:00 PM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfilePowered by Yext Q2 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrSeptember 6, 2023 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 10 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Afternoon, and welcome to the Yext Fiscal Second Quarter 20 24 Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in listen only mode. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. Please note, this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Nils Erdmann, Senior Vice President, Investor Relations. Operator00:00:39Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:41Thank you, operator, and good afternoon, everyone. Welcome to Yext's Fiscal Second Quarter 20 24 Earnings Conference Call. With me today are CEO and Chair of the Board, Mike Walrath President and COO, Mark Ferentino and CFO, Darryl Bond. During this call, we will make forward looking statements, These forward looking statements are subject to certain risks, uncertainties and assumptions, including those related to Yext's growth, The evolution of our industry, our product development and success, our management performance and general economic and business conditions. These forward looking statements represent our beliefs and assumptions only as of the date made, and we undertake no obligation to revise or update any statements to reflect changes that occur after this call. Speaker 100:01:41For further information on factors and other risks that could cause actual results to differ materially from these forward looking statements is included in our reports filed with the SEC, including in the sections titled Special Note Regarding Forward Looking Statements and Risk Factors in our most recent quarterly report on Form 10 Q for the 3 months ended July 31, 2023, and our press release that was issued this afternoon. During the call, we also refer to certain metrics, including non GAAP financial measures. Reconciliations with the most comparable historical GAAP measures are available in the earnings press release, which is available at investors. Yext .com. We also provide definitions of these metrics in the earnings press release. Speaker 100:02:22I will now turn the call over to Mike. Speaker 200:02:26Thanks, Nils, and thanks everyone for joining us today. I'll start by highlighting our continued momentum in Q2, followed by a discussion of progress we're making with our sales marketing initiatives and then I'll cover some of our expectations for the back half of the year. In Q2, we delivered results that were consistent with or slightly ahead of Our expectations. We generated revenue of $102,600,000 non GAAP EPS of $0.07 and $11,800,000 of adjusted EBITDA. Our performance in the 2nd quarter demonstrated a balance of operating efficiency and profitability consistent with the strategy we outlined last year. Speaker 200:03:05In Q2, total ARR grew 3% year over year And direct ARR was up 5%. Sales productivity and execution are continuing to show improvement and I'm pleased with the progress we're making in our end to end demand generation efforts. Our go to market transformation remains a work in progress. We are executing well and beginning to see increases in total and qualified pipeline Our mid market team who calls on smaller enterprise customers continues to execute well consistent with the progress we saw from this group in Q1. We continue to believe this momentum will eventually carry over to larger enterprises, but it is likely to take longer in the current macro environment. Speaker 200:03:47Customer buying trends, budget scrutiny and prolonged close processes with multiple decision makers are still the norm Interest in our digital experiences solution is building. We see measurable increases in total pipeline year over year. However, we have not yet seen buying trends from larger enterprise customers reaccelerating. Our assumption is that enterprise deal cycles, budget pressures and close rates will remain challenged through the rest of the year. Further, this budget scrutiny and caution impacts every renewal as well. Speaker 200:04:23RFPs, large buying committees and procurement engagement are more prevalent And in some cases, cost cutting efforts within customer accounts are severe. This coupled with headwinds and shedding unprofitable services revenue and the decisions we made last year To deprioritize direct SMB sales and Japan market, we'll continue to challenge our ARR growth and retention through the end of the fiscal year. A different dynamic is at play with our reseller channel. We are seeing some positive indicators from our reseller partners There continues to be interest from resellers in our non listing solutions. At the same time, there was a drop in ARR from our reseller Business in Q2 that was attributable to a single customer churn from an M and A event. Speaker 200:05:07Absent this customer churn, our reseller ARR would have ticked up Slightly from the Q1. We continue to believe that there is an opportunity over the long term to grow ARR in this channel, So our primary focus for the time being remains to optimize and accelerate our direct business. As we discussed in March, we expected to see improvement in our go to market execution first in sales productivity, then in qualified demand generation, which creates a framework for We are encouraged to see both an improvement in sales productivity and an increase in qualified demand. We'll use these signals to determine the right time to invest in sales capacity. As of today, we do not feel constrained by our sales capacity and continue to be laser focused on improving the performance of that organization. Speaker 200:05:56The value proposition of our DXP is resonating with customers. As we mentioned in previous quarters, our campaigns are helping open the door at smaller and large enterprises. Executives are interested in finding AI enabled solutions to enhance their digital experiences, yet many businesses lack the highly specialized technical expertise to realize its transformational power. Yext's summer release features DXP enhancements that leverage AI within chat, content and reviews, which Mark will discuss in more detail shortly. Our continued focus on margin improvement has enabled us to grow our bottom line and execute with a greater level of consistency. Speaker 200:06:34The total of our expenses in the Q2, including both non GAAP cost of revenue and operating expenses decreased roughly 9% year over year. Overall, we experienced business conditions in Q2 that were similar to the previous several quarters, if not a bit more challenging. We achieved year over year growth with a smaller sales organization, which indicates that our emphasis on productivity is having the desired effect. We made steady progress in Q2 despite a continuing cost conscious demand environment. And as our go to market and demand gen engines begin to ramp, We're looking forward to picking up momentum, but remain very cautious about the environment in the back half of the year. Speaker 200:07:16Our team remains committed to growing our business profitably and managing efficiently. Considering the continued macro uncertainty, our outlook remains the same as it was when we reported our Q1 results. But given the improvements we've made across the organization, we remain confident in our long term growth opportunities. Pleased to announce Our Board has approved an increase of $50,000,000 to our share repurchase program. This is in addition to the $100,000,000 We have been utilizing to buy back our stock since March of last year. Speaker 200:07:46Our ability to manage the growth of our business, while also generating value for our shareholders, And I'm grateful to our customers, partners and our shareholders for their ongoing trust and support. With that, I'd now like to turn the call over to Mark. Speaker 300:08:10Thanks, Mike. We continue to innovate and deliver powerful solutions across our digital experience platform to new and existing customers looking to meet new market demands and customer expectations. A big accomplishment during the quarter Our summer 'twenty three release, which featured DXP enhancements to simplify how companies generate experiences for any customer across both owned And 3rd party channels at scale. As part of the summer release, we changed the name of the Knowledge Graph to Yext Content. We believe Yext Content is the 1st headless CMS built on a foundation of AI and Knowledge Graph Technology. Speaker 300:08:54Content includes enhancements to expand how companies can use AI to generate any experience across both owned and third party channels, All from a single headless content management system. We also added AI generated responses to reviews. Consumers make buying decisions based on reviews and search engines use them as a critical input to ranking results. AI generated review response is a new capability within the product that enables businesses to use AI to scale small teams and respond to reviews. Now using their own unique data, companies can automatically generate individualized responses that are on brand and contextually appropriate according to analyzing tone and sentiment of posts across any channel. Speaker 300:09:49The general availability of the summer 'twenty three release was announced on July 31st. And while still early, The responses from customers across a range of verticals and regions has been extremely positive. Interest in our suite of AI enhanced services has opened doors with new and existing customers and awareness of our DXP platform and its capabilities continues to build. To add to this, during the Q2, our marketing team launched Yext's New annual global campaigns targeting key personas in marketing, support and IT. The 3 fully integrated global campaigns focused on the importance of having a modern, composable, Best of breed architecture powered by a headless CMS and showing the possibilities of what customers can build with our AI led digital experience platform. Speaker 300:10:45We are already seeing a positive impact. For instance, we have seen 500% more event registrations In the 1st 6 months than we had all of last year and over 70% of the contacts engaging with our campaigns are new to Yext. Initiatives such as these campaigns are driving measurable impact on our marketing pipeline, while also creating more efficient alignment In the Q2, we closed several significant upsells and had several Boomerang customers returning to Yext. Here are a few examples. Benefit Cosmetics, which is an existing Yext customer, who we began renewal conversations with over 9 months ago Guaranty Bank and Trust is another terrific example of our team starting conversations months in advance to identify and solve customer pain points. Speaker 300:12:07We were able to win back the Listings and Reviews business of Guaranteed Bank and Trust from our competitor with a full A preeminent International postal service provider expanded the relationship with Yext for new directory pages following a pages rebuild, new store locator and a new Pages launch. We were able to help a global provider of diagnostic information enhance customer experience by upgrading our partnership to include location pages. Over a period of 12 months, Our team showcased how Yext could provide incremental value by enabling them to optimize their pages, enhance An international CPG company was another renewal that developed into full platform adoption. Through our unique integration of search, We were able to show how our DXP platform could help the customer expand into new markets, enhance communication across organization and quantify the business value driven by Yext through our analytics tools. Calida Health, an existing health client leveraging Yext solutions to help customers find providers and facilities expanded their relationship with Yext to include a third division After we won 2 divisions earlier this year and added universal search as part of their increased adoption of our platform. Speaker 300:13:45In addition to these upsells, we had several new logo wins during the quarter. Columbia Sportswear needed a more accurate listings provider And we were able to create a full solution and win the business by providing additional data driven insights and analytics to help improve their customer experience. In another instance, we went head to head with 2 competitors in a bid for the listings business of a European leader in electric vehicle solutions. Yext ultimately won the business due to our understanding of their back end systems and our ability to submit accurate data to our A code hosting platform for version control and collaboration was a unique new logo deal during the quarter. They ran their own search evaluation via a free trial and self directed implementation via our hitchhikers training community. Speaker 300:14:40Yext was selected out of a number of competitors due to the clear and easy to follow documentation and low friction sales process. And finally, a large public university medical school was working with a different listings provider, but switched to Yext I am very pleased with how our teams are executing, particularly given the pace of innovation. We are prioritizing the development of solutions that will help companies keep abreast The latest in digital experiences enabling our customers to provide best in class services. Now, I'll turn the call over to Daryl. Speaker 400:15:27Thanks, Mark. I'll start with a review of our Q2 results before moving on to our guidance for Q3 and the full year fiscal 'twenty four. Revenue for our Q2 grew to $102,600,000 up 2% on an as reported basis or 1% in constant currency. Our growth in Q2 was driven by continued demand in our direct business. As of the end of Q2, our customer count for direct excluding SMB was approximately 2,980. Speaker 400:15:57Annual recurring revenue or ARR was 397,700,000 up 3% year over year or 2% in constant currency. Direct customers represented 82% of total ARR. Direct ARR at the end of Q2 totaled $327,200,000 an increase of 5% year over year or 4% in constant currency. 3rd party resellers, which represented 18% of total ARR at the end of Q2, delivered ARR of 70,500,000 a decrease of 6% year over year or 7% in constant currency. As Mike mentioned earlier, a significant portion of the decrease The result of the merger of 2 of our reseller partners. Speaker 400:16:42This accounted for roughly half of the year over year decrease and without this churn ARR would have increased sequentially compared to the Q1. As of the end of Q2, our net retention rate, which is calculated on the basis of ARR, It was 98% for direct customers and 92% for our 3rd party resellers. Turning to non GAAP results, compared to 74.5% in the year ago quarter. As we've mentioned previously, the improvement relative to last year was largely attributable to the organizational changes within our services organization, which was a process we kicked off in Q4 of last year. We expect our gross margins for the remainder of this fiscal year to remain at the high end of our 75% to 80% range. Speaker 400:17:39Our operating expenses in Q2 were $73,600,000 or 72 percent of revenue compared to $78,600,000 78% of revenue in the year ago quarter. The key part of our operating expense discipline has been the realignment of our sales and marketing team Our sales and marketing costs as a percentage of revenue were 42% in Q2 compared to 48% in the Q2 of last year. Our Q2 net income was $8,100,000 compared to a net loss of $3,900,000 in the year ago quarter. Our Q2 net income per basic share was $0.07 compared to a net loss of $0.03 per basic share in the Q2 of last year. Cash and cash equivalents were $201,000,000 at the end of Q2 compared to $217,000,000 at the end of the Q1. Speaker 400:18:31The decrease in our cash balance was driven in part by continued share repurchases in Q2, which totaled $6,400,000 or 700,000 shares. Since the commencement of the program, our share repurchases have totaled $88,000,000 or 15,100,000 shares. With the additional $50,000,000 authorization, we intend to continue buying back our stock at attractive prices. Net cash used in operating activities for Q2 was $7,000,000 compared to $25,200,000 cash used in the year ago quarter and our CapEx was $600,000 compared to $2,200,000 in Q2 last year. Turning to our outlook for the Q3 and full fiscal year 2024, our guidance assumes that the challenging macroeconomic environment and effects will persist throughout this year. Speaker 400:19:23As of today, for the Q3, we expect revenue in the range of $101,500,000 to $102,500,000 adjusted EBITDA in the range of $11,500,000 to $12,500,000 and non GAAP EPS in the range of $0.06 to $0.07 which assumes a weighted average basic share count of approximately 125 For the full year fiscal 'twenty four, we expect revenue in the range of $405,000,000 to 407,000,000 Adjusted EBITDA in the range of $50,000,000 to $52,000,000 and non GAAP EPS in the range of $0.29 to $0.30 which assumes a weighted average basic share count of approximately 124,800,000 shares. We are now ready to open up the line for questions. Operator00:20:16We will now begin the question and answer session. Our first question is from Tom White with D. A. Davidson. Please go ahead. Speaker 500:20:49Great. Thanks for taking my questions. 2, if I could. I guess, first off, on the direct business. So ARR growth slowed a bit versus last quarter, but Looks like net retention kind of improved a bit sequentially. Speaker 500:21:03Mike, can you maybe just provide a bit more color Your initiatives to kind of sell into new logos, just curious to what extent you're seeing elongated sales cycles or reticence From enterprises, due to the macro, and kind of what's the balance between that Potential dynamic versus the various operational initiatives you guys are implementing around kind of Changing the sales force, the go to market, etcetera. And then I just have a follow-up on the reseller channel. Speaker 200:21:38Sure. No problem. So thanks for the question. So I think there's a couple of things at play there. So obviously, we talked earlier when we a couple of quarters ago about the changes we made and the expected Headwinds to ARR and revenue growth and things like that from services changes, Japan, SMB. Speaker 200:21:58And I think we're seeing those and I think we And that as we've talked about before, the vast majority of Speaker 600:22:11the book is in Speaker 200:22:12the second half of the year. So it's not surprising that we would see Those impacts starting to land as we get into the second half of the year, and it kind of ramps as we go through the year. As far as the macro goes, I mean, we're seeing it with new logos. We're also seeing it with existing customers, particularly on the larger enterprise side of things, but really throughout the market. There's just more scrutiny. Speaker 200:22:38There's more budget pressure. I think there's more conservatism coming out of the enterprises And it causes more discussions about where is the budget for incremental opportunities coming from, whether those are new logo upsell. And in some cases, we're seeing cost cutting pressure within existing customers and we're reacting to that by Making sure that we're positioning ourselves as the best possible partner opportunity to consolidate services. And even within the broader landscape, we're seeing even within a specific industry, we're seeing some companies are taking the opportunity to be much more aggressive about Expanding their digital experiences, some are being more cautious than others are being doing things that they acknowledge are probably long term the wrong Thanks for their digital experience, customer experiences, but they're just under some of these businesses are under extreme cost cutting pressure. And So it's a mixed bag of all those things. Speaker 200:23:40I think, as I said earlier, we were probably seeing it, if anything, a little bit Worse in Q2 than it was in the last couple of quarters. But we're really just kind of expecting that it stays this way with More scrutiny, more pressure, longer sales cycles, at least through the end of this year. Speaker 500:24:00Okay. That's helpful. Thanks for the color. And then just a follow-up on the reseller business. So you mentioned that excluding that kind of M and A event, ARR would have ticked up versus last quarter, but obviously still kind of down considerably year over year. Speaker 500:24:21Is that just broader kind of pressure that SMBs are experiencing or anything else to kind of call out there? And What is it that you guys can do to maybe help mitigate or sort of limit the amount of kind of deterioration in that business? Speaker 200:24:39Yes. So we talked about this when we initially came in 6, 7 quarters, I guess, 6 quarters ago That there was a lot of pressure on the SMB segment at the time. I think it was hitting a lot of this environmental stuff hit the SMBs earlier. So without this M and A transaction that really caused the sequential quarterly downtick, I think what we would be talking about is the real stabilization in that ARR and a feeling that we are at least seeing that stabilize. I think the mitigating factor and the thing that we're excited about is that we're starting to see the qualified demands And the pipeline show up on non listings opportunities to our reseller partner set, which as we've In the longer term, there's a real opportunity to grow those relationships and to make them more strategic and really to help our partners consolidate the different offerings to a best in class digital experience offering. Speaker 200:25:51And so I would call it Ex that one particular thing, we'd probably be talking more about just a stabilization in that ARR With the same idea that we're seeing the demand build, but we're not going to get too aggressive about forecasting that demand until we actually see it starting to convert Into bookings and commitments in that channel. Speaker 500:26:15Great. Thank you very much. Operator00:26:18The next question is from Rohit Kulkarni with ROTH MKM. Please go ahead. Speaker 700:26:24Hey, thanks. Just a big picture question on AI and What are you feeling and hearing from the market and your customers when you're pitching your AI products, be it Just the overall content management system or individual bells and whistles like chatbots or AI generated reviews and so where do you see that opening doors, be it existing customers, new wins, And how are those conversations evolving? And then I have a follow-up. Speaker 200:26:56Yes. Hey, Roy, I'm happy to talk about that a little bit. So I think we need to separate 2 things here. So there's a tremendous amount of interest in AI, and It's a great door opener today to talk about being able to bring more robust AI capabilities to Enterprises of all sizes, including things like chat and AI review response and content generation. The larger the enterprise, the longer it's going to take for them to be ready to use those technology, particularly when it comes to things that face the Customer. Speaker 200:27:35And if you think about the majority of what we do, it's customer facing digital experiences. And so One of the reasons why you've heard us be excited about this, but also be relatively tempered is that the legal compliance Regulatory processes inside larger businesses, particularly some of the regulated industries where we have a lot of strength in financial services and It means that the actual, I think, commercial opportunity with those businesses is going to take a lot longer To show up then the excitement that there is around the potential for these things. I do think we'll see adoption More quickly in smaller enterprises and less regulated segments, but I still think businesses are going to be cautious around anything AI related that they're exposing to the And with good reason. So one of the things that we're very, I think, careful about making sure that our customers Understand is that our digital experience solutions are not purely AI solutions. They're Really robust digital experience capabilities, including now content, headless CMS And a number of others that bring tremendous value without the AI plug in pieces. Speaker 200:29:00When you plug the AI into it and use the AI, It just expands the value of those solutions. Speaker 700:29:08Okay, okay, cool. Thanks, Mike. And then maybe on hiring and just the OpEx side of things, maybe correct me if I'm mistaken, did you how was hiring during the last 90 days, did you change any plans? As in it feels to me that kind of OpEx came in slightly above, maybe just a fair bit, but slightly above our expectations, but just would love to understand Have your kind of hiring plans or various different functions changed over the last 90, 1, 20 days? Speaker 200:29:43Yes. So, no, I wouldn't say there's any significant change to our approach there. I think we're being very targeted with Where we add resources, I think we're also being very thoughtful about where we are getting the performance that we need from resources. I think what you're seeing there is probably a seasonal adjustment to our people related OpEx, which is obviously the majority of it, As we do our compensation cycle in the Q2 and so if you historically, you'll always see that 2nd quarter compensation expenses are going to be Are going to tick up because that's when we do our primary promotion compensation cycle. Speaker 800:30:24I see. Okay. Thanks, Mike. Thank you. Speaker 600:30:26Sure. Operator00:30:28The next question is from Naved Khan with B. Riley Securities. Please go ahead. Speaker 600:30:34Yes, hi. Thanks a lot. Just maybe expense related items. So if I look at the sales and marketing line, Ticked up a little bit. Are there any campaign related costs in there that you might have done in Q2? Speaker 600:30:46Or is it mostly around Yes. Out of commissions or additional headcount, how should I think about increase there sequentially? And then I have a follow-up. Speaker 200:30:59Yes. I mean, we did launch some campaigns, but I wouldn't call that the primary thing. I think the primary thing is what I was just mentioning that Because of the compensation cycle and because of when it falls, that's when we'll typically see the seasonal uptick in our overall compensation expense, which obviously Sales and marketing is the largest piece of. And so it's not a specific amount of hiring or a initiative that's causing that. It's just the natural seasonality of when that compensation cycle happens. Speaker 600:31:36Understood. And then with regard to your ability to leverage Packaging and pricing to basically do renewals or drive retention and new wins. Just maybe give us your thoughts there in terms of how much are you pulling on this lever and maybe there is an ability to do even more there? Speaker 200:32:03Yes. You're talking about basically using the renewal as an opportunity to consolidate? Speaker 600:32:11Well, it's more about pricing packaging as a lever to basically drive either in a loss or maybe even new wins. Speaker 200:32:18Yes. So I think in this environment, where we where there is a lot of scrutiny around budgets and there's it's harder for, Again, in the enterprise, particularly for our buying customers to just identify incremental budgets, there are a couple of conversations that We want to have there one is clearly how many different capabilities of the platform can we package together In order to create more value for the customer and potentially help them save money, while Holding some of the pressure that we might be feeling or even expanding our relationships with those customers. And that's a motion that I think we Are focusing on improving and it's a big part of the focus in the channels. And We need to be ahead of those renewal discussions in order to be in position to do that. So those things don't come together at the last minute. Speaker 200:33:16I think Mark referenced one of the customers he was talking about was a 9 month cycle leading up to their renewal. So we'll We continue to focus on getting better at that motion as we really get the sales team structured and operating appropriately. I feel like I say this every call and soon I won't be able to say this, but Tom is still in seat less than a year. I think we're doing a lot of great work. We're Some of the productivity enhancements and things like that, but we are still early in this transformation. Speaker 600:33:49Got it. And maybe one last one, if I may. I know there has been some impact From sort of discontinuation of the lower margin services business, maybe just quantify how much the impact was on the growth With that, I'm just trying to parse out what's organic versus inorganic. Speaker 400:34:13Yes. Hey, Naved, it's Daryl. When we initially laid out the components of the headwinds that we were going to see in the fiscal year, it was In the low single digit percentage point on growth. And as Mike mentioned earlier, a lot of those renewals will come up As it relates to services, a lot of those renewals will come up in Q3 and Q4, and that's where we'll see the impact in revenue ARR and retention. Speaker 600:34:42Got it. So as far as this last quarter it was less than 1%. Is that fair? Speaker 400:34:52We haven't broken it out. I mean, the low single digits is really on a year over year growth rate. But like we said, it's certainly back end loaded. Speaker 600:35:04Understood. Thank you, guys. Speaker 900:35:08Thanks, Sean. The next question Operator00:35:10is from Arjun Bhatia with William Blair. Please go ahead. Speaker 900:35:15Hi, this is Chris on for Arjun. Thanks for taking the question. The first one for me, How much more room do you have to continue driving margin expansion from here without a top line pickup? Are there still levers you can Speaker 200:35:39Yes, I think there are always levers there. I think the question that we're asking ourselves daily, weekly, monthly here is at what point does Extracting more margin overall, operating margin for the business costs the opportunity to get the revenue reaccelerating. So We think about this all the time. We talked about this at our Investor Day. When I Talking to my comments about seeing sales productivity increase, seeing qualified demand there, if we did nothing more than continue to increase Sales productivity and increased qualified demand, we would actually I think you'd get you'd start to see that revenue growth That were or that ARR reacceleration we're looking for. Speaker 200:36:30We could clearly cut expenses To get more, but the question ultimately is do you sacrifice revenue growth there. So we I think we grapple with this question all the time and in a difficult environment, it's a little it's probably a little harder question, especially when we have this kind of mixed signal where the Macro environment is very difficult, but the qualified demand and overall demand is clearly building. And we're seeing progress on that side. And so This is not an easy one. We're going to keep evaluating it. Speaker 200:37:07We're going to keep looking at it. We know we've made a lot of progress, but depending on how the environment develops and how much demand develops, then we'll be thinking about Optimizing between incremental operating margin and revenue growth. Speaker 900:37:25Got it. Yes, that makes a lot of sense. And the second question I had was on the revenue outlook. So it looks basically flat Each quarter from 2Q through the end of the year, how much of the growth recovery at this point is Directly tied to an improving macro environment. So what are you hearing from customers that gives you confidence that we'll actually see ARR growth return when the macro starts to improve? Speaker 200:37:55Yes, I think look, I think that's the hardest thing to predict, right? So in a world where overall demand is improving, which we've mentioned, right, Well, sort of total demand and qualified demand, which is really just refers to different stages. We would And a macro environment is improving what you'd anticipate is that close rates recover to what they were We want to enter the challenging macro at least 3 or 4 quarters ago. And you have more demand, so that would indicate You're going to that we're going to grow the book, right? And so we have the one signal that we are very happy with, which is There's more opportunity. Speaker 200:38:42There's more demand. There's more interest. And we track that through all stages of the pipeline That campaigns are creating responses and interest in all of those things. So We either need to see that continue to build to the point where we can actually outrun the macro headwind or we see the macro headwinds Subside and deals get easier to do, particularly at the enterprise level, which is where we see the sort of faster acceleration of the ARR. And look, I wish I could tell you when that's going to happen. Speaker 200:39:18I think we're pretty clear that we don't that our guide and our forecast doesn't anticipate that that In the back half of the year, we think the caution that's tied to The macro uncertainty and really these businesses like the market hate uncertainty, we expect that to continue. If it improves faster, then We would expect to see benefit from that. And if it gets worse, we would expect to see the impact of that as well. Operator00:39:57The next question is from Ryan MacDonald with Needham. Please go ahead. Speaker 800:40:02Hi, thanks for taking my questions. Mike, I appreciate the environment is a bit challenged, but one of the areas that you seem to be continuing to have some nice successes with these Boomerang customers. Can you just talk about what the dynamics are at play in that Portion of the market from a competitive perspective and whether there's a specific strategy that you've employed that seems to be Leading to this success and how large of a revenue opportunity should we think about this Boomerang customer opportunity being moving forward? Speaker 200:40:37Yes. So I'll say some high level things about that, Mark, maybe want to jump in with some more specifics. But I think When you think about like what the boomerang customers typically look like, because of the relative newness of much many of the products, They're primarily going to be listings and reviews customers who are boomeranging. And typically, when we saw, which we've talked about, we saw some of these listings and customers go elsewhere over the last 2, 3, 4 years, we've talked about this a lot. They were promised certain things by competitors. Speaker 200:41:14And in a lot of cases, they moved for lower cost solutions. And I think what they found was that The ones that are coming back clearly didn't get the value that they were expecting elsewhere and so we're seeing Let them return. I think at the same like on the same token on the flip side of that, when there is significant budget pressure in the market, the sort of The attraction to moving to a lower cost provider is going to be there as well. So I think we're happy to see the boomerangs happening and we're very focused Making sure that we do everything we can to keep companies like those that are now coming back From leaving for what might appear to be greener pastures or just cost savings and then turn out to have a product that really doesn't work very well or a set of services that don't work? Speaker 300:42:06Yes. As Mike said, the majority of the customers are really a lot of the listings customers. What you see over the last few years is some of our competition doing some unnatural things from a deal structure standpoint. And The old adage is you get what you pay for. And so listings quality, the support models, The ability to resolve issues at scale are really all areas where competition has fallen down really. Speaker 300:42:38And when you're talking about mission critical data being out there in the Internet, you're talking about your public presence and sort of driving top of the funnel, You really can't go with a second rate solution. And in some cases, the customer has to go through that experience before they realize The overall value that we've been providing for years. So that's what we're going to see and I expect us to continue to see that in future quarters. Speaker 800:43:04That's helpful color there. I appreciate it. And maybe as a follow-up. So I get that we have some sales cycle elongations now, but is there any Strategies you're able to employ to essentially nudge prospective customers along in the pipeline at this point, whether it's Utilizing pricing or flexible deal structures as maybe a way to take advantage of trying to gain some market share in a more difficult time? Or Is it a pretty frozen end market at this point? Speaker 200:43:34Yes. No, I mean, we're always looking for those opportunities. I said before, sometimes those are consolidation opportunities. Sometimes those are we can do 2 or 3 things that they're evaluating and we can do it all at And that's how they can find some cost savings. And so we're really happy to engage in those discussions. Speaker 200:43:54We're obviously Looking Speaker 300:43:56at pricing, Speaker 200:43:57we're looking at packaging, we're looking at different ways to address our customer needs to be efficient. The same way we're addressing being efficient as a business as well. And I think this kind of optimization will continue for a while. And I anticipate that we'll get back to the business of building Really high ROI digital experiences as we get through this kind of malaise period. Speaker 800:44:27Thanks for taking my questions. Pleasure. Thanks. Operator00:44:31This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Mike Walrath for any closing remarks. Speaker 200:44:39Thanks everybody for joining us and look forward to talking to you soon. Operator00:44:43The conference is now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. 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There are 10 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Afternoon, and welcome to the Yext Fiscal Second Quarter 20 24 Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in listen only mode. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. Please note, this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Nils Erdmann, Senior Vice President, Investor Relations. Operator00:00:39Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:41Thank you, operator, and good afternoon, everyone. Welcome to Yext's Fiscal Second Quarter 20 24 Earnings Conference Call. With me today are CEO and Chair of the Board, Mike Walrath President and COO, Mark Ferentino and CFO, Darryl Bond. During this call, we will make forward looking statements, These forward looking statements are subject to certain risks, uncertainties and assumptions, including those related to Yext's growth, The evolution of our industry, our product development and success, our management performance and general economic and business conditions. These forward looking statements represent our beliefs and assumptions only as of the date made, and we undertake no obligation to revise or update any statements to reflect changes that occur after this call. Speaker 100:01:41For further information on factors and other risks that could cause actual results to differ materially from these forward looking statements is included in our reports filed with the SEC, including in the sections titled Special Note Regarding Forward Looking Statements and Risk Factors in our most recent quarterly report on Form 10 Q for the 3 months ended July 31, 2023, and our press release that was issued this afternoon. During the call, we also refer to certain metrics, including non GAAP financial measures. Reconciliations with the most comparable historical GAAP measures are available in the earnings press release, which is available at investors. Yext .com. We also provide definitions of these metrics in the earnings press release. Speaker 100:02:22I will now turn the call over to Mike. Speaker 200:02:26Thanks, Nils, and thanks everyone for joining us today. I'll start by highlighting our continued momentum in Q2, followed by a discussion of progress we're making with our sales marketing initiatives and then I'll cover some of our expectations for the back half of the year. In Q2, we delivered results that were consistent with or slightly ahead of Our expectations. We generated revenue of $102,600,000 non GAAP EPS of $0.07 and $11,800,000 of adjusted EBITDA. Our performance in the 2nd quarter demonstrated a balance of operating efficiency and profitability consistent with the strategy we outlined last year. Speaker 200:03:05In Q2, total ARR grew 3% year over year And direct ARR was up 5%. Sales productivity and execution are continuing to show improvement and I'm pleased with the progress we're making in our end to end demand generation efforts. Our go to market transformation remains a work in progress. We are executing well and beginning to see increases in total and qualified pipeline Our mid market team who calls on smaller enterprise customers continues to execute well consistent with the progress we saw from this group in Q1. We continue to believe this momentum will eventually carry over to larger enterprises, but it is likely to take longer in the current macro environment. Speaker 200:03:47Customer buying trends, budget scrutiny and prolonged close processes with multiple decision makers are still the norm Interest in our digital experiences solution is building. We see measurable increases in total pipeline year over year. However, we have not yet seen buying trends from larger enterprise customers reaccelerating. Our assumption is that enterprise deal cycles, budget pressures and close rates will remain challenged through the rest of the year. Further, this budget scrutiny and caution impacts every renewal as well. Speaker 200:04:23RFPs, large buying committees and procurement engagement are more prevalent And in some cases, cost cutting efforts within customer accounts are severe. This coupled with headwinds and shedding unprofitable services revenue and the decisions we made last year To deprioritize direct SMB sales and Japan market, we'll continue to challenge our ARR growth and retention through the end of the fiscal year. A different dynamic is at play with our reseller channel. We are seeing some positive indicators from our reseller partners There continues to be interest from resellers in our non listing solutions. At the same time, there was a drop in ARR from our reseller Business in Q2 that was attributable to a single customer churn from an M and A event. Speaker 200:05:07Absent this customer churn, our reseller ARR would have ticked up Slightly from the Q1. We continue to believe that there is an opportunity over the long term to grow ARR in this channel, So our primary focus for the time being remains to optimize and accelerate our direct business. As we discussed in March, we expected to see improvement in our go to market execution first in sales productivity, then in qualified demand generation, which creates a framework for We are encouraged to see both an improvement in sales productivity and an increase in qualified demand. We'll use these signals to determine the right time to invest in sales capacity. As of today, we do not feel constrained by our sales capacity and continue to be laser focused on improving the performance of that organization. Speaker 200:05:56The value proposition of our DXP is resonating with customers. As we mentioned in previous quarters, our campaigns are helping open the door at smaller and large enterprises. Executives are interested in finding AI enabled solutions to enhance their digital experiences, yet many businesses lack the highly specialized technical expertise to realize its transformational power. Yext's summer release features DXP enhancements that leverage AI within chat, content and reviews, which Mark will discuss in more detail shortly. Our continued focus on margin improvement has enabled us to grow our bottom line and execute with a greater level of consistency. Speaker 200:06:34The total of our expenses in the Q2, including both non GAAP cost of revenue and operating expenses decreased roughly 9% year over year. Overall, we experienced business conditions in Q2 that were similar to the previous several quarters, if not a bit more challenging. We achieved year over year growth with a smaller sales organization, which indicates that our emphasis on productivity is having the desired effect. We made steady progress in Q2 despite a continuing cost conscious demand environment. And as our go to market and demand gen engines begin to ramp, We're looking forward to picking up momentum, but remain very cautious about the environment in the back half of the year. Speaker 200:07:16Our team remains committed to growing our business profitably and managing efficiently. Considering the continued macro uncertainty, our outlook remains the same as it was when we reported our Q1 results. But given the improvements we've made across the organization, we remain confident in our long term growth opportunities. Pleased to announce Our Board has approved an increase of $50,000,000 to our share repurchase program. This is in addition to the $100,000,000 We have been utilizing to buy back our stock since March of last year. Speaker 200:07:46Our ability to manage the growth of our business, while also generating value for our shareholders, And I'm grateful to our customers, partners and our shareholders for their ongoing trust and support. With that, I'd now like to turn the call over to Mark. Speaker 300:08:10Thanks, Mike. We continue to innovate and deliver powerful solutions across our digital experience platform to new and existing customers looking to meet new market demands and customer expectations. A big accomplishment during the quarter Our summer 'twenty three release, which featured DXP enhancements to simplify how companies generate experiences for any customer across both owned And 3rd party channels at scale. As part of the summer release, we changed the name of the Knowledge Graph to Yext Content. We believe Yext Content is the 1st headless CMS built on a foundation of AI and Knowledge Graph Technology. Speaker 300:08:54Content includes enhancements to expand how companies can use AI to generate any experience across both owned and third party channels, All from a single headless content management system. We also added AI generated responses to reviews. Consumers make buying decisions based on reviews and search engines use them as a critical input to ranking results. AI generated review response is a new capability within the product that enables businesses to use AI to scale small teams and respond to reviews. Now using their own unique data, companies can automatically generate individualized responses that are on brand and contextually appropriate according to analyzing tone and sentiment of posts across any channel. Speaker 300:09:49The general availability of the summer 'twenty three release was announced on July 31st. And while still early, The responses from customers across a range of verticals and regions has been extremely positive. Interest in our suite of AI enhanced services has opened doors with new and existing customers and awareness of our DXP platform and its capabilities continues to build. To add to this, during the Q2, our marketing team launched Yext's New annual global campaigns targeting key personas in marketing, support and IT. The 3 fully integrated global campaigns focused on the importance of having a modern, composable, Best of breed architecture powered by a headless CMS and showing the possibilities of what customers can build with our AI led digital experience platform. Speaker 300:10:45We are already seeing a positive impact. For instance, we have seen 500% more event registrations In the 1st 6 months than we had all of last year and over 70% of the contacts engaging with our campaigns are new to Yext. Initiatives such as these campaigns are driving measurable impact on our marketing pipeline, while also creating more efficient alignment In the Q2, we closed several significant upsells and had several Boomerang customers returning to Yext. Here are a few examples. Benefit Cosmetics, which is an existing Yext customer, who we began renewal conversations with over 9 months ago Guaranty Bank and Trust is another terrific example of our team starting conversations months in advance to identify and solve customer pain points. Speaker 300:12:07We were able to win back the Listings and Reviews business of Guaranteed Bank and Trust from our competitor with a full A preeminent International postal service provider expanded the relationship with Yext for new directory pages following a pages rebuild, new store locator and a new Pages launch. We were able to help a global provider of diagnostic information enhance customer experience by upgrading our partnership to include location pages. Over a period of 12 months, Our team showcased how Yext could provide incremental value by enabling them to optimize their pages, enhance An international CPG company was another renewal that developed into full platform adoption. Through our unique integration of search, We were able to show how our DXP platform could help the customer expand into new markets, enhance communication across organization and quantify the business value driven by Yext through our analytics tools. Calida Health, an existing health client leveraging Yext solutions to help customers find providers and facilities expanded their relationship with Yext to include a third division After we won 2 divisions earlier this year and added universal search as part of their increased adoption of our platform. Speaker 300:13:45In addition to these upsells, we had several new logo wins during the quarter. Columbia Sportswear needed a more accurate listings provider And we were able to create a full solution and win the business by providing additional data driven insights and analytics to help improve their customer experience. In another instance, we went head to head with 2 competitors in a bid for the listings business of a European leader in electric vehicle solutions. Yext ultimately won the business due to our understanding of their back end systems and our ability to submit accurate data to our A code hosting platform for version control and collaboration was a unique new logo deal during the quarter. They ran their own search evaluation via a free trial and self directed implementation via our hitchhikers training community. Speaker 300:14:40Yext was selected out of a number of competitors due to the clear and easy to follow documentation and low friction sales process. And finally, a large public university medical school was working with a different listings provider, but switched to Yext I am very pleased with how our teams are executing, particularly given the pace of innovation. We are prioritizing the development of solutions that will help companies keep abreast The latest in digital experiences enabling our customers to provide best in class services. Now, I'll turn the call over to Daryl. Speaker 400:15:27Thanks, Mark. I'll start with a review of our Q2 results before moving on to our guidance for Q3 and the full year fiscal 'twenty four. Revenue for our Q2 grew to $102,600,000 up 2% on an as reported basis or 1% in constant currency. Our growth in Q2 was driven by continued demand in our direct business. As of the end of Q2, our customer count for direct excluding SMB was approximately 2,980. Speaker 400:15:57Annual recurring revenue or ARR was 397,700,000 up 3% year over year or 2% in constant currency. Direct customers represented 82% of total ARR. Direct ARR at the end of Q2 totaled $327,200,000 an increase of 5% year over year or 4% in constant currency. 3rd party resellers, which represented 18% of total ARR at the end of Q2, delivered ARR of 70,500,000 a decrease of 6% year over year or 7% in constant currency. As Mike mentioned earlier, a significant portion of the decrease The result of the merger of 2 of our reseller partners. Speaker 400:16:42This accounted for roughly half of the year over year decrease and without this churn ARR would have increased sequentially compared to the Q1. As of the end of Q2, our net retention rate, which is calculated on the basis of ARR, It was 98% for direct customers and 92% for our 3rd party resellers. Turning to non GAAP results, compared to 74.5% in the year ago quarter. As we've mentioned previously, the improvement relative to last year was largely attributable to the organizational changes within our services organization, which was a process we kicked off in Q4 of last year. We expect our gross margins for the remainder of this fiscal year to remain at the high end of our 75% to 80% range. Speaker 400:17:39Our operating expenses in Q2 were $73,600,000 or 72 percent of revenue compared to $78,600,000 78% of revenue in the year ago quarter. The key part of our operating expense discipline has been the realignment of our sales and marketing team Our sales and marketing costs as a percentage of revenue were 42% in Q2 compared to 48% in the Q2 of last year. Our Q2 net income was $8,100,000 compared to a net loss of $3,900,000 in the year ago quarter. Our Q2 net income per basic share was $0.07 compared to a net loss of $0.03 per basic share in the Q2 of last year. Cash and cash equivalents were $201,000,000 at the end of Q2 compared to $217,000,000 at the end of the Q1. Speaker 400:18:31The decrease in our cash balance was driven in part by continued share repurchases in Q2, which totaled $6,400,000 or 700,000 shares. Since the commencement of the program, our share repurchases have totaled $88,000,000 or 15,100,000 shares. With the additional $50,000,000 authorization, we intend to continue buying back our stock at attractive prices. Net cash used in operating activities for Q2 was $7,000,000 compared to $25,200,000 cash used in the year ago quarter and our CapEx was $600,000 compared to $2,200,000 in Q2 last year. Turning to our outlook for the Q3 and full fiscal year 2024, our guidance assumes that the challenging macroeconomic environment and effects will persist throughout this year. Speaker 400:19:23As of today, for the Q3, we expect revenue in the range of $101,500,000 to $102,500,000 adjusted EBITDA in the range of $11,500,000 to $12,500,000 and non GAAP EPS in the range of $0.06 to $0.07 which assumes a weighted average basic share count of approximately 125 For the full year fiscal 'twenty four, we expect revenue in the range of $405,000,000 to 407,000,000 Adjusted EBITDA in the range of $50,000,000 to $52,000,000 and non GAAP EPS in the range of $0.29 to $0.30 which assumes a weighted average basic share count of approximately 124,800,000 shares. We are now ready to open up the line for questions. Operator00:20:16We will now begin the question and answer session. Our first question is from Tom White with D. A. Davidson. Please go ahead. Speaker 500:20:49Great. Thanks for taking my questions. 2, if I could. I guess, first off, on the direct business. So ARR growth slowed a bit versus last quarter, but Looks like net retention kind of improved a bit sequentially. Speaker 500:21:03Mike, can you maybe just provide a bit more color Your initiatives to kind of sell into new logos, just curious to what extent you're seeing elongated sales cycles or reticence From enterprises, due to the macro, and kind of what's the balance between that Potential dynamic versus the various operational initiatives you guys are implementing around kind of Changing the sales force, the go to market, etcetera. And then I just have a follow-up on the reseller channel. Speaker 200:21:38Sure. No problem. So thanks for the question. So I think there's a couple of things at play there. So obviously, we talked earlier when we a couple of quarters ago about the changes we made and the expected Headwinds to ARR and revenue growth and things like that from services changes, Japan, SMB. Speaker 200:21:58And I think we're seeing those and I think we And that as we've talked about before, the vast majority of Speaker 600:22:11the book is in Speaker 200:22:12the second half of the year. So it's not surprising that we would see Those impacts starting to land as we get into the second half of the year, and it kind of ramps as we go through the year. As far as the macro goes, I mean, we're seeing it with new logos. We're also seeing it with existing customers, particularly on the larger enterprise side of things, but really throughout the market. There's just more scrutiny. Speaker 200:22:38There's more budget pressure. I think there's more conservatism coming out of the enterprises And it causes more discussions about where is the budget for incremental opportunities coming from, whether those are new logo upsell. And in some cases, we're seeing cost cutting pressure within existing customers and we're reacting to that by Making sure that we're positioning ourselves as the best possible partner opportunity to consolidate services. And even within the broader landscape, we're seeing even within a specific industry, we're seeing some companies are taking the opportunity to be much more aggressive about Expanding their digital experiences, some are being more cautious than others are being doing things that they acknowledge are probably long term the wrong Thanks for their digital experience, customer experiences, but they're just under some of these businesses are under extreme cost cutting pressure. And So it's a mixed bag of all those things. Speaker 200:23:40I think, as I said earlier, we were probably seeing it, if anything, a little bit Worse in Q2 than it was in the last couple of quarters. But we're really just kind of expecting that it stays this way with More scrutiny, more pressure, longer sales cycles, at least through the end of this year. Speaker 500:24:00Okay. That's helpful. Thanks for the color. And then just a follow-up on the reseller business. So you mentioned that excluding that kind of M and A event, ARR would have ticked up versus last quarter, but obviously still kind of down considerably year over year. Speaker 500:24:21Is that just broader kind of pressure that SMBs are experiencing or anything else to kind of call out there? And What is it that you guys can do to maybe help mitigate or sort of limit the amount of kind of deterioration in that business? Speaker 200:24:39Yes. So we talked about this when we initially came in 6, 7 quarters, I guess, 6 quarters ago That there was a lot of pressure on the SMB segment at the time. I think it was hitting a lot of this environmental stuff hit the SMBs earlier. So without this M and A transaction that really caused the sequential quarterly downtick, I think what we would be talking about is the real stabilization in that ARR and a feeling that we are at least seeing that stabilize. I think the mitigating factor and the thing that we're excited about is that we're starting to see the qualified demands And the pipeline show up on non listings opportunities to our reseller partner set, which as we've In the longer term, there's a real opportunity to grow those relationships and to make them more strategic and really to help our partners consolidate the different offerings to a best in class digital experience offering. Speaker 200:25:51And so I would call it Ex that one particular thing, we'd probably be talking more about just a stabilization in that ARR With the same idea that we're seeing the demand build, but we're not going to get too aggressive about forecasting that demand until we actually see it starting to convert Into bookings and commitments in that channel. Speaker 500:26:15Great. Thank you very much. Operator00:26:18The next question is from Rohit Kulkarni with ROTH MKM. Please go ahead. Speaker 700:26:24Hey, thanks. Just a big picture question on AI and What are you feeling and hearing from the market and your customers when you're pitching your AI products, be it Just the overall content management system or individual bells and whistles like chatbots or AI generated reviews and so where do you see that opening doors, be it existing customers, new wins, And how are those conversations evolving? And then I have a follow-up. Speaker 200:26:56Yes. Hey, Roy, I'm happy to talk about that a little bit. So I think we need to separate 2 things here. So there's a tremendous amount of interest in AI, and It's a great door opener today to talk about being able to bring more robust AI capabilities to Enterprises of all sizes, including things like chat and AI review response and content generation. The larger the enterprise, the longer it's going to take for them to be ready to use those technology, particularly when it comes to things that face the Customer. Speaker 200:27:35And if you think about the majority of what we do, it's customer facing digital experiences. And so One of the reasons why you've heard us be excited about this, but also be relatively tempered is that the legal compliance Regulatory processes inside larger businesses, particularly some of the regulated industries where we have a lot of strength in financial services and It means that the actual, I think, commercial opportunity with those businesses is going to take a lot longer To show up then the excitement that there is around the potential for these things. I do think we'll see adoption More quickly in smaller enterprises and less regulated segments, but I still think businesses are going to be cautious around anything AI related that they're exposing to the And with good reason. So one of the things that we're very, I think, careful about making sure that our customers Understand is that our digital experience solutions are not purely AI solutions. They're Really robust digital experience capabilities, including now content, headless CMS And a number of others that bring tremendous value without the AI plug in pieces. Speaker 200:29:00When you plug the AI into it and use the AI, It just expands the value of those solutions. Speaker 700:29:08Okay, okay, cool. Thanks, Mike. And then maybe on hiring and just the OpEx side of things, maybe correct me if I'm mistaken, did you how was hiring during the last 90 days, did you change any plans? As in it feels to me that kind of OpEx came in slightly above, maybe just a fair bit, but slightly above our expectations, but just would love to understand Have your kind of hiring plans or various different functions changed over the last 90, 1, 20 days? Speaker 200:29:43Yes. So, no, I wouldn't say there's any significant change to our approach there. I think we're being very targeted with Where we add resources, I think we're also being very thoughtful about where we are getting the performance that we need from resources. I think what you're seeing there is probably a seasonal adjustment to our people related OpEx, which is obviously the majority of it, As we do our compensation cycle in the Q2 and so if you historically, you'll always see that 2nd quarter compensation expenses are going to be Are going to tick up because that's when we do our primary promotion compensation cycle. Speaker 800:30:24I see. Okay. Thanks, Mike. Thank you. Speaker 600:30:26Sure. Operator00:30:28The next question is from Naved Khan with B. Riley Securities. Please go ahead. Speaker 600:30:34Yes, hi. Thanks a lot. Just maybe expense related items. So if I look at the sales and marketing line, Ticked up a little bit. Are there any campaign related costs in there that you might have done in Q2? Speaker 600:30:46Or is it mostly around Yes. Out of commissions or additional headcount, how should I think about increase there sequentially? And then I have a follow-up. Speaker 200:30:59Yes. I mean, we did launch some campaigns, but I wouldn't call that the primary thing. I think the primary thing is what I was just mentioning that Because of the compensation cycle and because of when it falls, that's when we'll typically see the seasonal uptick in our overall compensation expense, which obviously Sales and marketing is the largest piece of. And so it's not a specific amount of hiring or a initiative that's causing that. It's just the natural seasonality of when that compensation cycle happens. Speaker 600:31:36Understood. And then with regard to your ability to leverage Packaging and pricing to basically do renewals or drive retention and new wins. Just maybe give us your thoughts there in terms of how much are you pulling on this lever and maybe there is an ability to do even more there? Speaker 200:32:03Yes. You're talking about basically using the renewal as an opportunity to consolidate? Speaker 600:32:11Well, it's more about pricing packaging as a lever to basically drive either in a loss or maybe even new wins. Speaker 200:32:18Yes. So I think in this environment, where we where there is a lot of scrutiny around budgets and there's it's harder for, Again, in the enterprise, particularly for our buying customers to just identify incremental budgets, there are a couple of conversations that We want to have there one is clearly how many different capabilities of the platform can we package together In order to create more value for the customer and potentially help them save money, while Holding some of the pressure that we might be feeling or even expanding our relationships with those customers. And that's a motion that I think we Are focusing on improving and it's a big part of the focus in the channels. And We need to be ahead of those renewal discussions in order to be in position to do that. So those things don't come together at the last minute. Speaker 200:33:16I think Mark referenced one of the customers he was talking about was a 9 month cycle leading up to their renewal. So we'll We continue to focus on getting better at that motion as we really get the sales team structured and operating appropriately. I feel like I say this every call and soon I won't be able to say this, but Tom is still in seat less than a year. I think we're doing a lot of great work. We're Some of the productivity enhancements and things like that, but we are still early in this transformation. Speaker 600:33:49Got it. And maybe one last one, if I may. I know there has been some impact From sort of discontinuation of the lower margin services business, maybe just quantify how much the impact was on the growth With that, I'm just trying to parse out what's organic versus inorganic. Speaker 400:34:13Yes. Hey, Naved, it's Daryl. When we initially laid out the components of the headwinds that we were going to see in the fiscal year, it was In the low single digit percentage point on growth. And as Mike mentioned earlier, a lot of those renewals will come up As it relates to services, a lot of those renewals will come up in Q3 and Q4, and that's where we'll see the impact in revenue ARR and retention. Speaker 600:34:42Got it. So as far as this last quarter it was less than 1%. Is that fair? Speaker 400:34:52We haven't broken it out. I mean, the low single digits is really on a year over year growth rate. But like we said, it's certainly back end loaded. Speaker 600:35:04Understood. Thank you, guys. Speaker 900:35:08Thanks, Sean. The next question Operator00:35:10is from Arjun Bhatia with William Blair. Please go ahead. Speaker 900:35:15Hi, this is Chris on for Arjun. Thanks for taking the question. The first one for me, How much more room do you have to continue driving margin expansion from here without a top line pickup? Are there still levers you can Speaker 200:35:39Yes, I think there are always levers there. I think the question that we're asking ourselves daily, weekly, monthly here is at what point does Extracting more margin overall, operating margin for the business costs the opportunity to get the revenue reaccelerating. So We think about this all the time. We talked about this at our Investor Day. When I Talking to my comments about seeing sales productivity increase, seeing qualified demand there, if we did nothing more than continue to increase Sales productivity and increased qualified demand, we would actually I think you'd get you'd start to see that revenue growth That were or that ARR reacceleration we're looking for. Speaker 200:36:30We could clearly cut expenses To get more, but the question ultimately is do you sacrifice revenue growth there. So we I think we grapple with this question all the time and in a difficult environment, it's a little it's probably a little harder question, especially when we have this kind of mixed signal where the Macro environment is very difficult, but the qualified demand and overall demand is clearly building. And we're seeing progress on that side. And so This is not an easy one. We're going to keep evaluating it. Speaker 200:37:07We're going to keep looking at it. We know we've made a lot of progress, but depending on how the environment develops and how much demand develops, then we'll be thinking about Optimizing between incremental operating margin and revenue growth. Speaker 900:37:25Got it. Yes, that makes a lot of sense. And the second question I had was on the revenue outlook. So it looks basically flat Each quarter from 2Q through the end of the year, how much of the growth recovery at this point is Directly tied to an improving macro environment. So what are you hearing from customers that gives you confidence that we'll actually see ARR growth return when the macro starts to improve? Speaker 200:37:55Yes, I think look, I think that's the hardest thing to predict, right? So in a world where overall demand is improving, which we've mentioned, right, Well, sort of total demand and qualified demand, which is really just refers to different stages. We would And a macro environment is improving what you'd anticipate is that close rates recover to what they were We want to enter the challenging macro at least 3 or 4 quarters ago. And you have more demand, so that would indicate You're going to that we're going to grow the book, right? And so we have the one signal that we are very happy with, which is There's more opportunity. Speaker 200:38:42There's more demand. There's more interest. And we track that through all stages of the pipeline That campaigns are creating responses and interest in all of those things. So We either need to see that continue to build to the point where we can actually outrun the macro headwind or we see the macro headwinds Subside and deals get easier to do, particularly at the enterprise level, which is where we see the sort of faster acceleration of the ARR. And look, I wish I could tell you when that's going to happen. Speaker 200:39:18I think we're pretty clear that we don't that our guide and our forecast doesn't anticipate that that In the back half of the year, we think the caution that's tied to The macro uncertainty and really these businesses like the market hate uncertainty, we expect that to continue. If it improves faster, then We would expect to see benefit from that. And if it gets worse, we would expect to see the impact of that as well. Operator00:39:57The next question is from Ryan MacDonald with Needham. Please go ahead. Speaker 800:40:02Hi, thanks for taking my questions. Mike, I appreciate the environment is a bit challenged, but one of the areas that you seem to be continuing to have some nice successes with these Boomerang customers. Can you just talk about what the dynamics are at play in that Portion of the market from a competitive perspective and whether there's a specific strategy that you've employed that seems to be Leading to this success and how large of a revenue opportunity should we think about this Boomerang customer opportunity being moving forward? Speaker 200:40:37Yes. So I'll say some high level things about that, Mark, maybe want to jump in with some more specifics. But I think When you think about like what the boomerang customers typically look like, because of the relative newness of much many of the products, They're primarily going to be listings and reviews customers who are boomeranging. And typically, when we saw, which we've talked about, we saw some of these listings and customers go elsewhere over the last 2, 3, 4 years, we've talked about this a lot. They were promised certain things by competitors. Speaker 200:41:14And in a lot of cases, they moved for lower cost solutions. And I think what they found was that The ones that are coming back clearly didn't get the value that they were expecting elsewhere and so we're seeing Let them return. I think at the same like on the same token on the flip side of that, when there is significant budget pressure in the market, the sort of The attraction to moving to a lower cost provider is going to be there as well. So I think we're happy to see the boomerangs happening and we're very focused Making sure that we do everything we can to keep companies like those that are now coming back From leaving for what might appear to be greener pastures or just cost savings and then turn out to have a product that really doesn't work very well or a set of services that don't work? Speaker 300:42:06Yes. As Mike said, the majority of the customers are really a lot of the listings customers. What you see over the last few years is some of our competition doing some unnatural things from a deal structure standpoint. And The old adage is you get what you pay for. And so listings quality, the support models, The ability to resolve issues at scale are really all areas where competition has fallen down really. Speaker 300:42:38And when you're talking about mission critical data being out there in the Internet, you're talking about your public presence and sort of driving top of the funnel, You really can't go with a second rate solution. And in some cases, the customer has to go through that experience before they realize The overall value that we've been providing for years. So that's what we're going to see and I expect us to continue to see that in future quarters. Speaker 800:43:04That's helpful color there. I appreciate it. And maybe as a follow-up. So I get that we have some sales cycle elongations now, but is there any Strategies you're able to employ to essentially nudge prospective customers along in the pipeline at this point, whether it's Utilizing pricing or flexible deal structures as maybe a way to take advantage of trying to gain some market share in a more difficult time? Or Is it a pretty frozen end market at this point? Speaker 200:43:34Yes. No, I mean, we're always looking for those opportunities. I said before, sometimes those are consolidation opportunities. Sometimes those are we can do 2 or 3 things that they're evaluating and we can do it all at And that's how they can find some cost savings. And so we're really happy to engage in those discussions. Speaker 200:43:54We're obviously Looking Speaker 300:43:56at pricing, Speaker 200:43:57we're looking at packaging, we're looking at different ways to address our customer needs to be efficient. The same way we're addressing being efficient as a business as well. And I think this kind of optimization will continue for a while. And I anticipate that we'll get back to the business of building Really high ROI digital experiences as we get through this kind of malaise period. Speaker 800:44:27Thanks for taking my questions. Pleasure. Thanks. Operator00:44:31This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Mike Walrath for any closing remarks. Speaker 200:44:39Thanks everybody for joining us and look forward to talking to you soon. Operator00:44:43The conference is now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may nowRead morePowered by