NASDAQ:WTBA West Bancorporation Q4 2023 Earnings Report $19.03 +0.33 (+1.76%) Closing price 04/25/2025 04:00 PM EasternExtended Trading$19.08 +0.05 (+0.26%) As of 04/25/2025 04:05 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. Earnings HistoryForecast West Bancorporation EPS ResultsActual EPS$0.27Consensus EPS $0.31Beat/MissMissed by -$0.04One Year Ago EPSN/AWest Bancorporation Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$18.26 millionExpected Revenue$18.82 millionBeat/MissMissed by -$560.00 thousandYoY Revenue GrowthN/AWest Bancorporation Announcement DetailsQuarterQ4 2023Date1/25/2024TimeN/AConference Call DateThursday, January 25, 2024Conference Call Time3:00PM ETConference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Annual Report (10-K)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by West Bancorporation Q4 2023 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrJanuary 25, 2024 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 7 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good afternoon, and welcome to West Bancorporation Inc. 4th Quarter 2023 Earnings Call. Please note that this call is being recorded. All participants are now in listen only mode. After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question and answer session. Operator00:00:24Thank you. I will now turn the call over to Jane Funk, CFO. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:31Thank you, and welcome, everybody. Thank you for joining us today. On the call today, we'll have myself Dave Nelson, our CEO Harley Olesen, Chief Risk Officer Brad Winterbottom, our Bank President and Brad Peters, our Minnesota Group President. I'll start the call with our earnings call forward looking statement. During today's conference call, We may make projections or other forward looking statements within the meaning of the Safe Harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 regarding future events or the future financial performance of the company. Speaker 100:01:08We caution that such statements are predictions and that actual results may differ materially. Please see the forward looking statement disclosure in our 2023 Q4 earnings release for more information about risks and uncertainties which may affect us. The information we will provide today is accurate as of December 31, 2023, and we undertake no duty to update the information. And with that, I'll turn it over to Dave Nelson. Speaker 200:01:34Thank you, Jane, and thank you everyone for joining us this morning and Thank you for your continued interest and support of our company. Our quarter went as expected. During the quarter, we had a provision And an intentional loss trade that Jane will provide details on both of those. In terms of margin compression, No Fed rate hike during the Q4 was welcome and future rate cuts would be even more helpful. Our credit quality remains pristine. Speaker 200:02:08We ended the quarter and the year with no 30 day past Due loans and essentially no credit problems. Our Board of Directors approved a $0.25 per share regular quarterly dividend payable Wednesday, February 21 to shareholders of record as of Wednesday, February 7. Those are the extent of my prepared remarks. I would now like to turn the call over to our Chief Risk Officer, Mr. Harley Olesen. Speaker 300:02:37Thank you, Dave. And as he stated, our credit quality remains extremely strong. Our watch list is only $440,000 And as said before, we have no past due loans at quarter end over 30 days. We do Stress test our portfolio each quarter and have seen improving trends in total loan to value and debt service coverage just for Some percentages of the portfolio makeup in the commercial real estate area, 32% of our portfolio is multifamily, 18% is warehouse, 10% is office, Which is approximately 50% owner occupied, 7% in mixed use properties, 15% in hotels, 11% in medical office properties and 7% in senior housing assisted living type properties. Office properties in downtown locations have the most pressure on values due to vacancies. Speaker 300:03:47We have minimal exposure to this type of property. Assisted living and long term care facilities also are under pressure due to High cost of staffing those facilities and we have a limited amount of that also. Our focus is to provide great service to our customers that have comprehensive relationships with us. We're not looking for Applicants just want to do a deal. Our bankers have been doing a good job capturing more of our customers' total business. Speaker 300:04:21The economy in our markets remains strong. With having to increase our deposit to maintain our customer base, we keep prospecting those relationships that add to both sides of the balance sheet. And with that, I will turn it over to our bank President, Brad Winterbottom. Speaker 400:04:41Good afternoon. For the year ended 2023, our loan portfolio grew just over 6.7% $2,930,000,000 in outstandings. And for the quarter ended twelvethirty onetwenty 3, our loan portfolio grew $78,000,000 or 2.7 percent. Our growth in the portfolio was in part due to some asset Acquisition funding and vertical construction draws on previously committed transactions. We have slightly over $190,000,000 in unfunded commitments on vertical construction draws that should take place over the next 12 to 18 months. Speaker 400:05:27Deposit gathering sales efforts are an emphasis In a very highly competitive environment in the markets we serve, we are winning our fair Share battles of these. Our pipeline is good. Given the interest rate environment we're living in, we have Continue to see good opportunities in all markets we serve to grow our market share and we remain confident in our abilities create and maintain positive relationships with our customers and the prospects that we are pursuing. With that, I'll turn it over to Brad Peters, our Minnesota President. Speaker 500:06:07Thanks, Brad. Good afternoon, everyone. I'm going to provide a brief update on our progress in Minnesota. We continue to navigate through a challenging environment due to the rapid rise in interest rates. In spite of those challenges, we are growing new business and enhancing existing relationships. Speaker 500:06:26Our focus has been on C and I growth and we have been intentional in our calling efforts to draw a new deposit and treasury management We are also growing our high value retail deposits by focusing on our business owners and their key employees. The Mankato market has now opened their new facility. This has been a great tool to attract new business and high value personal deposit Our Watanah market has finalized plans for the new building and construction will begin later this spring. Those are the end of my comments. I will now turn it back over to Jane. Speaker 100:07:05Thanks, Brad. Just a few comments on our financials and then we'll open it So our earnings were $4,500,000 in the 4th quarter compared to $5,900,000 in the 3rd quarter. The 4th quarter income included a $431,000 loss on sale of investment securities. The securities transaction provided approximately $11,000,000 of proceeds that was reinvested in the loan portfolio and the earn back period on that loss transaction We also recorded a $500,000 provision for credit losses in the 4th quarter as a result of loan growth and growth in unfunded commitments. Net interest income was relatively flat with a small decline of $273,000 in the 4th quarter compared to the Q3 and our net interest margin declined just 4 basis points quarter over quarter. Speaker 100:07:56The net interest margin Decline has slowed significantly since earlier in the year and for each of the 3 months in the 4th quarter was relatively stable. However, due to market rate volatility, our customers' cash flow activities and competition for deposits, any forecasting net interest margin in the near term remains uncertain. Our 2023 earnings were $24,100,000 with the decline from prior year primarily the result of the decline in net interest income. Our net interest margin declined from 2.76% in 2022 to 2 0.01% in 2023. Year over year increases in non interest expenses were primarily due to market and inflationary related increases in compensation costs, occupancy costs of our new building in St. Speaker 100:08:43Cloud, Minnesota and increases in the FDIC insurance assessment rate. Those are the end of the prepared comments and we will open it up for questions. Operator00:09:01Your first question comes from Andrew Liesch with Piper Sandler. Please go ahead. Speaker 600:09:07Hey, good afternoon, everyone. Thanks for taking the questions. Just sticking with the margin here, obviously, the pace has slowed quite a bit. So do you think we're Nearing the bottom as you look out to the best that you can forecast it? Speaker 100:09:24Yes. Margin monthly margin has been pretty stable during the Q4. I think what will dictate that Here in the next 3 to 6 months will be really kind of deposit activity flows of our current depositors And just how quickly the loan portfolio reprice is, Which at this point is a little bit slower than what we would like it to be. But the cost side, the cost of funding side is really what's going to drive the margin. So changes in mix and things like that will influence that significantly. Speaker 600:10:01Got it. The loan growth here was pretty strong. Do you have the average of what new loans were added at during the quarter? Great. Yes. Speaker 400:10:11Most of our construction loans, virtually all Of our construction loans that we added would be on a floating rate basis Off of prime. Some of the asset funding that we did would be in the mid to high 7. Speaker 600:10:33Got it. Okay. That's helpful. And obviously, the margin has been under pressure with rates Going up, but how do you if we got a series of Fed rate cuts here beginning in the middle of the year, how do you think the margin would react to that? Speaker 100:10:49Well, I think it certainly would be helpful. Probably the unknown piece to that is really on the deposit side and kind of the lag. How quickly could you actually lower deposit rates in this environment and that's there's probably going to be some lag there. So relief from lower Fed rates, maybe lagged a little bit when that starts. Speaker 600:11:16Got it. Makes sense. Then on operating costs, the occupancy costs there, was the increase just related to the new offices coming online? Speaker 100:11:27Yes. Speaker 600:11:28Got it. And then, noticed that salaries and benefits were down. Was that a bonus accrual adjustment or I I guess I'm trying to figure out what the run rate for that line item is going to be here going forward in 2024? Speaker 100:11:41Yes. Compensation costs in the Q4, there was some Kind of some true up of bonuses and additional benefits. So our expectation for the next year is A small increase in compensation. We've had some retirements at the end of the year and we've got another retirement recurring early in 2024 and those are bankers that are retiring. And so we'll have some That we're not going to be replacing and our increases will annual increases And raises will kind of be dependent on the marketplace. Speaker 100:12:22So, we're not expecting a significant change in overall compensation costs. Speaker 600:12:30Got it. Okay. That's helpful. And then shifting gears to loan growth, sounds like the construction pipeline is strong, but you also Had some single family residential go up this quarter. I'm just curious what drove that? Speaker 600:12:42And as we look into 2024, is the growth really going to be Driven by construction or are there also some asset purchases like let me see a rebook again that you could see? Speaker 400:12:54Well, I do think that we do have $190,000,000 plus in Various construction projects that will get advanced. But we've also had some fairly sizable transactions That paid off late in Q4 and we've seen some of that early in early this month. So and those are unexpected. Most are unexpected. The Maybe the tick up in the home construction is probably just some starts that took place Digging holes so they could do some Construction while the winter is going through versus trying to dig a hole and put in foundations when it's frozen. Speaker 400:13:48So Those would be minor though. Speaker 600:13:52Got it. Very helpful. And then just one quick question on the charge offs that you had in the quarter. Any details Surrounding those that you can provide, just I was not expecting them. Yes. Speaker 400:14:08The one that I'm thinking of, which is maybe $50,000 been on our books, Been classified. We were getting monthly payments. And I think his health, I don't know this for a fact, but I think his health went south a bit and it kind of Turned dark on us. So we decided to we have collateral. We think we're going to get all of that money back, but it's just going to take some time. Speaker 400:14:41So we decided to charge it off. A reminder. Speaker 600:14:45Got it. That's all very helpful. Thank you for taking the questions here. I will step back. Speaker 100:14:52Thank you, Andrew. Operator00:14:56Your next question comes from Paul DeShaw. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:15:01In terms of the $11,300,000 bond sale, how did you calculate the estimated earn back period? Speaker 100:15:09Well, looking at the foregone interest on the securities that we're selling and then The proceeds the $11,000,000 in proceeds really went into the loan portfolio. So looking at the kind of prevailing rate that we're booking loans at For the income that we're going to earn off those, that's how we measure the payback period. Speaker 400:15:29Okay. Thank you. Operator00:15:35Seeing no further questions at this time, I will now turn the call back to Jane Funk. Speaker 100:15:41All right. Thank you, everyone, for joining us today. We look forward to the next earnings call with everybody and Continue discussions through 2024. Thank you very much. Operator00:15:54This concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect.Read morePowered by Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallWest Bancorporation Q4 202300:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2x Earnings DocumentsSlide DeckPress Release(8-K)Annual report(10-K) West Bancorporation Earnings HeadlinesWest Bancorporation, Inc. (WTBA) Q1 2025 Earnings Call TranscriptApril 24 at 9:06 PM | seekingalpha.comWest Bancorporation, Inc. 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Email Address About West BancorporationWest Bancorporation (NASDAQ:WTBA) operates as the financial holding company provides community banking and trust services to individuals and small- to medium-sized businesses in the United States. It offers deposit services, including checking, savings, and money market accounts, as well as time certificates of deposit. The company also provides loan products comprising commercial real estate loans, construction and land development loans, commercial lines of credit, and commercial term loans; consumer loans, including loans extended to individuals for household, family, and other personal expenditures not secured by real estate; and 1-4 family residential mortgages and home equity loans. In addition, it offers online and mobile banking, treasury management services including cash management, client-generated automated clearing house transactions, remote deposit, and fraud protection services; merchant credit card processing and corporate credit cards; and administration of estates, conservatorships, personal trusts, and agency accounts. 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There are 7 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good afternoon, and welcome to West Bancorporation Inc. 4th Quarter 2023 Earnings Call. Please note that this call is being recorded. All participants are now in listen only mode. After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question and answer session. Operator00:00:24Thank you. I will now turn the call over to Jane Funk, CFO. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:31Thank you, and welcome, everybody. Thank you for joining us today. On the call today, we'll have myself Dave Nelson, our CEO Harley Olesen, Chief Risk Officer Brad Winterbottom, our Bank President and Brad Peters, our Minnesota Group President. I'll start the call with our earnings call forward looking statement. During today's conference call, We may make projections or other forward looking statements within the meaning of the Safe Harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 regarding future events or the future financial performance of the company. Speaker 100:01:08We caution that such statements are predictions and that actual results may differ materially. Please see the forward looking statement disclosure in our 2023 Q4 earnings release for more information about risks and uncertainties which may affect us. The information we will provide today is accurate as of December 31, 2023, and we undertake no duty to update the information. And with that, I'll turn it over to Dave Nelson. Speaker 200:01:34Thank you, Jane, and thank you everyone for joining us this morning and Thank you for your continued interest and support of our company. Our quarter went as expected. During the quarter, we had a provision And an intentional loss trade that Jane will provide details on both of those. In terms of margin compression, No Fed rate hike during the Q4 was welcome and future rate cuts would be even more helpful. Our credit quality remains pristine. Speaker 200:02:08We ended the quarter and the year with no 30 day past Due loans and essentially no credit problems. Our Board of Directors approved a $0.25 per share regular quarterly dividend payable Wednesday, February 21 to shareholders of record as of Wednesday, February 7. Those are the extent of my prepared remarks. I would now like to turn the call over to our Chief Risk Officer, Mr. Harley Olesen. Speaker 300:02:37Thank you, Dave. And as he stated, our credit quality remains extremely strong. Our watch list is only $440,000 And as said before, we have no past due loans at quarter end over 30 days. We do Stress test our portfolio each quarter and have seen improving trends in total loan to value and debt service coverage just for Some percentages of the portfolio makeup in the commercial real estate area, 32% of our portfolio is multifamily, 18% is warehouse, 10% is office, Which is approximately 50% owner occupied, 7% in mixed use properties, 15% in hotels, 11% in medical office properties and 7% in senior housing assisted living type properties. Office properties in downtown locations have the most pressure on values due to vacancies. Speaker 300:03:47We have minimal exposure to this type of property. Assisted living and long term care facilities also are under pressure due to High cost of staffing those facilities and we have a limited amount of that also. Our focus is to provide great service to our customers that have comprehensive relationships with us. We're not looking for Applicants just want to do a deal. Our bankers have been doing a good job capturing more of our customers' total business. Speaker 300:04:21The economy in our markets remains strong. With having to increase our deposit to maintain our customer base, we keep prospecting those relationships that add to both sides of the balance sheet. And with that, I will turn it over to our bank President, Brad Winterbottom. Speaker 400:04:41Good afternoon. For the year ended 2023, our loan portfolio grew just over 6.7% $2,930,000,000 in outstandings. And for the quarter ended twelvethirty onetwenty 3, our loan portfolio grew $78,000,000 or 2.7 percent. Our growth in the portfolio was in part due to some asset Acquisition funding and vertical construction draws on previously committed transactions. We have slightly over $190,000,000 in unfunded commitments on vertical construction draws that should take place over the next 12 to 18 months. Speaker 400:05:27Deposit gathering sales efforts are an emphasis In a very highly competitive environment in the markets we serve, we are winning our fair Share battles of these. Our pipeline is good. Given the interest rate environment we're living in, we have Continue to see good opportunities in all markets we serve to grow our market share and we remain confident in our abilities create and maintain positive relationships with our customers and the prospects that we are pursuing. With that, I'll turn it over to Brad Peters, our Minnesota President. Speaker 500:06:07Thanks, Brad. Good afternoon, everyone. I'm going to provide a brief update on our progress in Minnesota. We continue to navigate through a challenging environment due to the rapid rise in interest rates. In spite of those challenges, we are growing new business and enhancing existing relationships. Speaker 500:06:26Our focus has been on C and I growth and we have been intentional in our calling efforts to draw a new deposit and treasury management We are also growing our high value retail deposits by focusing on our business owners and their key employees. The Mankato market has now opened their new facility. This has been a great tool to attract new business and high value personal deposit Our Watanah market has finalized plans for the new building and construction will begin later this spring. Those are the end of my comments. I will now turn it back over to Jane. Speaker 100:07:05Thanks, Brad. Just a few comments on our financials and then we'll open it So our earnings were $4,500,000 in the 4th quarter compared to $5,900,000 in the 3rd quarter. The 4th quarter income included a $431,000 loss on sale of investment securities. The securities transaction provided approximately $11,000,000 of proceeds that was reinvested in the loan portfolio and the earn back period on that loss transaction We also recorded a $500,000 provision for credit losses in the 4th quarter as a result of loan growth and growth in unfunded commitments. Net interest income was relatively flat with a small decline of $273,000 in the 4th quarter compared to the Q3 and our net interest margin declined just 4 basis points quarter over quarter. Speaker 100:07:56The net interest margin Decline has slowed significantly since earlier in the year and for each of the 3 months in the 4th quarter was relatively stable. However, due to market rate volatility, our customers' cash flow activities and competition for deposits, any forecasting net interest margin in the near term remains uncertain. Our 2023 earnings were $24,100,000 with the decline from prior year primarily the result of the decline in net interest income. Our net interest margin declined from 2.76% in 2022 to 2 0.01% in 2023. Year over year increases in non interest expenses were primarily due to market and inflationary related increases in compensation costs, occupancy costs of our new building in St. Speaker 100:08:43Cloud, Minnesota and increases in the FDIC insurance assessment rate. Those are the end of the prepared comments and we will open it up for questions. Operator00:09:01Your first question comes from Andrew Liesch with Piper Sandler. Please go ahead. Speaker 600:09:07Hey, good afternoon, everyone. Thanks for taking the questions. Just sticking with the margin here, obviously, the pace has slowed quite a bit. So do you think we're Nearing the bottom as you look out to the best that you can forecast it? Speaker 100:09:24Yes. Margin monthly margin has been pretty stable during the Q4. I think what will dictate that Here in the next 3 to 6 months will be really kind of deposit activity flows of our current depositors And just how quickly the loan portfolio reprice is, Which at this point is a little bit slower than what we would like it to be. But the cost side, the cost of funding side is really what's going to drive the margin. So changes in mix and things like that will influence that significantly. Speaker 600:10:01Got it. The loan growth here was pretty strong. Do you have the average of what new loans were added at during the quarter? Great. Yes. Speaker 400:10:11Most of our construction loans, virtually all Of our construction loans that we added would be on a floating rate basis Off of prime. Some of the asset funding that we did would be in the mid to high 7. Speaker 600:10:33Got it. Okay. That's helpful. And obviously, the margin has been under pressure with rates Going up, but how do you if we got a series of Fed rate cuts here beginning in the middle of the year, how do you think the margin would react to that? Speaker 100:10:49Well, I think it certainly would be helpful. Probably the unknown piece to that is really on the deposit side and kind of the lag. How quickly could you actually lower deposit rates in this environment and that's there's probably going to be some lag there. So relief from lower Fed rates, maybe lagged a little bit when that starts. Speaker 600:11:16Got it. Makes sense. Then on operating costs, the occupancy costs there, was the increase just related to the new offices coming online? Speaker 100:11:27Yes. Speaker 600:11:28Got it. And then, noticed that salaries and benefits were down. Was that a bonus accrual adjustment or I I guess I'm trying to figure out what the run rate for that line item is going to be here going forward in 2024? Speaker 100:11:41Yes. Compensation costs in the Q4, there was some Kind of some true up of bonuses and additional benefits. So our expectation for the next year is A small increase in compensation. We've had some retirements at the end of the year and we've got another retirement recurring early in 2024 and those are bankers that are retiring. And so we'll have some That we're not going to be replacing and our increases will annual increases And raises will kind of be dependent on the marketplace. Speaker 100:12:22So, we're not expecting a significant change in overall compensation costs. Speaker 600:12:30Got it. Okay. That's helpful. And then shifting gears to loan growth, sounds like the construction pipeline is strong, but you also Had some single family residential go up this quarter. I'm just curious what drove that? Speaker 600:12:42And as we look into 2024, is the growth really going to be Driven by construction or are there also some asset purchases like let me see a rebook again that you could see? Speaker 400:12:54Well, I do think that we do have $190,000,000 plus in Various construction projects that will get advanced. But we've also had some fairly sizable transactions That paid off late in Q4 and we've seen some of that early in early this month. So and those are unexpected. Most are unexpected. The Maybe the tick up in the home construction is probably just some starts that took place Digging holes so they could do some Construction while the winter is going through versus trying to dig a hole and put in foundations when it's frozen. Speaker 400:13:48So Those would be minor though. Speaker 600:13:52Got it. Very helpful. And then just one quick question on the charge offs that you had in the quarter. Any details Surrounding those that you can provide, just I was not expecting them. Yes. Speaker 400:14:08The one that I'm thinking of, which is maybe $50,000 been on our books, Been classified. We were getting monthly payments. And I think his health, I don't know this for a fact, but I think his health went south a bit and it kind of Turned dark on us. So we decided to we have collateral. We think we're going to get all of that money back, but it's just going to take some time. Speaker 400:14:41So we decided to charge it off. A reminder. Speaker 600:14:45Got it. That's all very helpful. Thank you for taking the questions here. I will step back. Speaker 100:14:52Thank you, Andrew. Operator00:14:56Your next question comes from Paul DeShaw. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:15:01In terms of the $11,300,000 bond sale, how did you calculate the estimated earn back period? Speaker 100:15:09Well, looking at the foregone interest on the securities that we're selling and then The proceeds the $11,000,000 in proceeds really went into the loan portfolio. So looking at the kind of prevailing rate that we're booking loans at For the income that we're going to earn off those, that's how we measure the payback period. Speaker 400:15:29Okay. Thank you. Operator00:15:35Seeing no further questions at this time, I will now turn the call back to Jane Funk. Speaker 100:15:41All right. Thank you, everyone, for joining us today. We look forward to the next earnings call with everybody and Continue discussions through 2024. Thank you very much. Operator00:15:54This concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect.Read morePowered by