Hope Bancorp Q4 2023 Earnings Call Transcript

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January 30, 2024

There are 6 speakers on the call.

Operator

Good afternoon, and welcome to the Hope Bancorp 2023 4th Quarter Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in a listen only mode. Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Angie Yang, Director of Investor Relations, please go ahead.

Speaker 1

Thank you, Daniel. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us for the Hope Bancorp 2023 4th Quarter Investor Conference Call. As usual, we will be using a slide presentation to accompany our discussion this morning, which is available in the Presentations page of our Investor Relations website. Beginning on Slide 2, let me begin with a brief statement regarding forward looking remarks. The call today contains forward looking projections regarding the future financial performance of the company and future events.

Speaker 1

These statements may differ materially from actual results due to certain risks and uncertainties. In addition, some of the information referenced On this call today are non GAAP financial measures. For a more detailed description of the risk factors and a reconciliation of GAAP to non GAAP financial measures, Please refer to the company's filings with the SEC as well as the Safe Harbor statements in our press release issued this morning. Hope Bancorp assumes no obligation to revise any forward looking projections that may be made on today's call. Now we have allotted 1 hour for this call.

Speaker 1

Presenting from the management side today will be Kevin Kim, Hope Bancorp's Chairman, President and CEO, Julianna Beliska, our Chief Financial Officer and Peter Koh, our Chief Operating Officer is also here with us as usual and will be available for the Q and A session. With that, let me turn the call over to Kevin Kim. Kevin?

Speaker 2

Thank you, Angie. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. Now let's begin on Slide 3 with a brief overview of the quarter. For the Q4 of 2023, we earned net income of $26,500,000 or $0.22 per diluted share. Income this quarter included 2 notable items, the FDIC special assessment of $3,100,000 after tax and restructuring charge of $8,700,000 after tax.

Speaker 2

Excluding These notable items, our net income was $38,000,000 up 26% quarter over quarter And our earnings per share were $0.32 up 28% quarter over quarter. A continued focus on expense management and meaningful improvements in our asset quality were important drivers of our net income growth this quarter. In October of 2023, we announced a strategic reorganization designed to enhance shareholder value over the long term. We realigned our structure around key lines of business and products, positioning Bank of Hope to operate more efficiently, support high quality loan and deposit growth and deliver improved returns in the years to come. We are making substantial progress on this to grow their portfolios and expand customer relationships.

Speaker 2

As part of the reorganization plan And as previously announced, we will consolidate certain branches in the first quarter in the first half of twenty twenty four, the cost of which was accrued as part of the Q4 2023 restructuring charges. Continuing on to Slide 4. We ended the year with a very strong capital position and all our capital ratios Expanded from September 30, 2023, we grew tangible book value 6% quarter over quarter year over year. As of December 31, 2023, our total capital ratio was 13.9 percent, up 69 basis points from September 30, and our common equity Tier 1 ratio was 12.28%, up 61 basis points quarter over quarter. Adjusting for the allowance for credit losses and including hypothetical adjustments for investment security marks, all our capital ratios remain high.

Speaker 2

Our Board of Directors declared a quarterly common stock dividend of $0.14 per share payable on February 23 to stockholders of record as of February 9, 2024. Continuing to Slide 5. At December 31, 2023, our total deposits were $14,800,000,000 Average deposits in the 4th quarter were $15,300,000,000 a decrease of less than 3% quarter over quarter. During the Q4, we reduced the brokered time deposits by $450,000,000 or 25 percent from September 30. Quarter over quarter, demand deposits declined, reflecting seasonality in fund flows from commercial customers in the residential mortgage industry.

Speaker 2

These customers are unrelated to the exit of our residential mortgage warehouse line business. Normally, the seasonal outflow of these funds in the 4th quarter reveals in subsequent quarters. Our consumer deposits were stable quarter over quarter and represented 37% of total deposits at year end 2023. Year over year, our consumer deposits are up 5%, which is notable given the disruption in the banking industry in the first half of twenty twenty three. This reflects the strength of our deposit franchise in the communities that we serve.

Speaker 2

Our gross loan to deposit ratio was 94% at December 31, 2023. We are targeting operating at a loan to deposit ratio below 95%. Moving on to Slide 6. At December 31, 2023, our loan portfolio totaled $13,900,000,000 a decrease of 3% quarter over quarter. Average loans for the 2023 4th quarter totaled $14,100,000,000 down 3% linked quarter.

Speaker 2

During the quarter, we completed The exit of our residential mortgage warehouse line business, which accounted for $65,000,000 of the decline in loan balances. Looking ahead at 2024, following our strategic reorganization, our frontline is pivoting and gearing up for growth. Accordingly, we expect to see positive loan growth this year. On Slides 79 I'm sorry, 7 and 8, we provide more details on our commercial real estate loans, which are well diversified by property type and are granular in size. The loan to values remain low across the portfolio with a weighted average of approximately 45% at December 31, 2023.

Speaker 2

The vast majority of our commercial real estate loans have full recourse with personal guarantees. Asset quality remains strong with 99% of the commercial real estate portfolio being pass graded at year end 2023 and with no signs of any systemic risks. With that, I will ask Juliana to provide additional details on our financial performance for the Q4. Juliana?

Speaker 3

Thank you, Kevin, and good morning, everyone. Beginning with Slide 9, our net interest income totaled $126,000,000 for the Q4 of 2023, a decrease of 7% from the 3rd quarter. The preceding third quarter included $3,000,000 of recovered interest income related to one borrower relationship, which contributed 6 basis points to net interest margin in the 3rd quarter. Excluding the recovery, net interest income decreased 5% quarter over quarter. Net interest margin for the 2023 4th quarter contracted 13 basis points to 2.70 percent.

Speaker 3

Excluding the interest income recovery from the 3rd quarter, The net interest margin contracted 7 basis points quarter over quarter. The linked quarter change in net interest income And net interest margin also reflected a higher cost of interest bearing deposits and a decrease in the average balance of loans, partially offset by a decrease in the average balance of interest bearing deposits and higher yields on investment securities and other earning assets. At the end of the Q1 2024, we plan to pay off our bank term funding program borrowings of $1,700,000,000 with interest earning cash. The positive contribution to net interest income from the BTFP was $4,000,000 in the 4th quarter. When the BTFP comes up for renewal at the end of March beginning of April, this positive spread opportunity will go away and we will pay off the borrowings.

Speaker 3

This will have an impact of reducing our average earning assets and net interest income after the Q1 of 2024. Moving on to Slide 10. Our average loans of 14,100,000,000 dollars decreased approximately 3% linked quarter and the average yield on our loan portfolio declined 3 basis points to 6.24%. Interest income recovery that I mentioned on the previous slide contributed 7 basis points to the loan yield in the preceding 3rd quarter. Excluding the interest income recovery, loan yields expanded in the 4th quarter.

Speaker 3

There were no material interest income recoveries in the 4th quarter. Average deposits declined less than 3% to $15,300,000,000 in the quarter and the average cost of deposits increased to 3.15%, up 17 basis points quarter over quarter. The increase partially reflects the repricing of maturing promotional CVs originated a year ago. Moving on to Slide 11. Our noninterest income was $9,000,000 for the 4th quarter, an increase of 12% from $8,000,000 in the Q3 of 2023.

Speaker 3

Non interest income growth was distributed across our various fee income businesses. Similar to last quarter, we did not record any gain on the sale of SBA loans. Current secondary market premiums are approximately 6%, and it is more economic to retain SBA 7A production on balance sheet at this time. We plan to return to selling our SBA 7A production when the premiums in the secondary markets improve, which we anticipate will happen after the Fed reduces interest rates. Moving on to non interest expense on Slide 12.

Speaker 3

Our 4th quarter non interest expense of $100,000,000 included 2 notable items, $11,000,000 of pretax restructuring charges related to our reorganization and $4,000,000 of pretax accrual for the FDIC special assessment. Excluding these notable items, our operating expense was $85,000,000 and decreased 2% quarter over quarter. Our 4th quarter salaries and benefits expense was $47,000,000 a decrease of $4,000,000 or 7% from the 3rd quarter. This reflected the impact of the headcount reduction at the end of October undertaken as part of our reorganization. Now moving on to Slide 13.

Speaker 3

I will review our asset quality, which improved meaningfully during the Q4. Our non performing assets at December 31, 2023 decreased 26 quarter over quarter to $46,000,000 and represented 24 basis points of total assets, an improvement from 31 basis points as of September 30. Our criticized loans decreased 11% from September 30, 2023 to $322,000,000 The linked quarter reduction was in both special mention and substandard loans. Net charge offs for the 2023 Q4 were a very low $1,800,000 or only 5 basis points of average loans annualized. For the 4th quarter, our provision for credit losses was $1,700,000 At December 31, 2023, our allowance for credit losses was $159,000,000 representing 1 points of loans receivable, which was an increase in coverage of 4 basis points from the end of the prior quarter.

Speaker 3

With that, let me turn the call back to Kevin.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Juliana. Moving on to Slide 14. The 2023 Q4 was a key quarter for Bank of Hope as we laid the foundation to build a stronger and more efficient regional bank that is highly focused on broadening and deepening client relationships. On Slide 15, we provide our outlook. We are presenting our expectations for the Q4 of 2024 compared with the Q4 of 2023, which we feel will provide a better sense of the direction in which we are building our company as we go through the transformation process.

Speaker 2

4th quarter to 4th quarter, we expect average loans to grow at a percentage rate in the low single digits, up from $14,050,000,000 in the Q4 of 2023. We have finished exiting non core businesses and we anticipate pay downs in the loan portfolio to moderate in 2024. We project growth to be weighted to the second half of the year and plan to maintain an average loan to deposit ratio below 95%. In terms of net interest income, 4th quarter to 4th quarter, we expect net interest income to decline at a percentage rate in the low single digits from $126,000,000 in the Q4 of 2023. This includes The net impact of our planned payoff of the bank term funding program, which as Juliana mentioned, contributed a positive $4,000,000 to our net interest income in the Q4 of 2023.

Speaker 2

Excluding the impact of the BTFP, we would expect our Q4 2024 net interest income to be up modestly compared with the Q4 of 2023 benefiting from loan growth and an improved cost of funds. In our outlook, we are assuming 5 Fed Funds rate cuts beginning with May of this year for a year end Fed Funds upper target rate of 4.25%. In 2024, We expect to return to selling SBA loans when the gain on sale premiums improve, which we expect should occur by the Q4 of 2024. In our outlook for operating expenses, excluding notable items, 4th quarter to 4th quarter, We expect our operating expenses to decrease by more than 5% from $85,000,000 in the Q4 of 2023. Cost savings from our restructuring will be partially offset by merit increases, planned hiring to support revenue generation and business development as well as continued technology investments to improve operational efficiency and the consumer customer user experience.

Speaker 2

A portion of the cost savings from our restructuring was realized in the Q4 of 2023 Expense run rate and in our outlook, we anticipate that our operating expenses will continue to decrease further. Our outlook translates into positive operating leverage when comparing the Q4 of 2024 with the Q4 of 2023, with the decrease in expenses expected to exceed the headwinds to net interest income. SBA gains in the Q4 of 2024 would be incrementally additive to the positive operating leverage. Finally, in our 2024 outlook, we assume a stable coverage ratio of allowance for credit losses to loans. Based upon the current economic outlook, we believe our allowance provides sufficient coverage for future credit risk, And we currently do not see any emerging systemic concerns in our loan portfolio.

Speaker 2

Moving on to Slide 16. 2024 will be a building year as we continue to make progress on our reorganization and begin to realize its benefits. We believe our efforts will generate better results, and We now have a clearer view of the bank's medium term potential post reorganization. We are sharing with you some of our medium term targets that we are driving toward. We would note that The assumptions underpinning our targets are based on the current implied forward curve, a constructive macroeconomic backdrop and continued modest economic growth over the medium term.

Speaker 2

Using these assumptions and with the realization of benefits From our strategic reorganization over the medium term, we expect, 1st, diversified loan growth in the high single digit percentage range while maintaining a loan to deposit ratio below 95%. 2nd, Annual revenue growth outpacing loan growth, which translates to revenue growth of greater than 10% in the medium term, supported by loan growth, accelerated fee income growth and an expanding net interest margin. We expect the net interest margin to expand not only because of interest rate changes, but because of a stronger deposit base. Our reorganization is focused on generating core deposit growth and expanding customer wallet share. 3rd, on operating efficiency ratio under 50%, driven by strengthened revenue growth, continued expense management discipline and operational process improvement.

Speaker 2

And finally, we expect these drivers will, in aggregate enable us to deliver an attractive level of returns with a return on average assets greater than 1.2%. In summary, as we sit here today, we are excited about the medium term growth prospects for Vanco Pop, And we believe the path to improve profitability is firmly within our reach. With renewed energy from our strategic transformation initiative that is well underway, our team is excited to move forward together to build a stronger, better and more efficient regional bank, enhancing the value of our franchise for all stakeholders for the long term. And I look forward to keeping you apprised of our ongoing progress as we continue to strengthen our position as one of the leading Asian American banks in the United States. With that, Operator, please open up the call.

Operator

We will now begin the question and answer session. The first question comes from Chris McGratty from KBW. Please go ahead.

Speaker 4

Hi. This is Dick Metofikis on for Chris.

Speaker 3

Hi.

Speaker 4

Maybe just starting with the NII, your guide has a low single digit decline. How does the NII outlook change if we get Less rate cuts this year.

Speaker 3

If we get fewer rate cuts this year, then our outlook will It will probably get a little bit worse, but not substantially so because On one hand, the we so the drivers behind our interest rate our net interest income outlook are as follows: a return to loan growth, which is irrespective of the interest rate outlook. Of course, where our cost of funds is, Having 5 interest rate cuts in the coming year is will allow us to start to realize a beta on the downward repricing of deposit costs. However, in the beginning, we are lagging our beta assumptions. So we're really not picking up deposit cost improvement until the latter half of the year. So I'm not sure it will be a substantially material impact If the rate cuts, if you line up with 3 versus say 5.

Speaker 3

And the 3rd driver of our improved net interest of net interest margin improvement will come I mean, not interest margin, excuse me, net interest income improvement will come from deposit growth focused on expanding customer wallet share and getting more operational deposit accounts. But the part between 4Q 'twenty three and 4Q 'twenty four that is going to occur regardless of cuts is going to be the decrease to our NII from the net impact from the BTFP, which because of the spread you're able to earn on the earning cash contributed $4,000,000 to the 4th quarter net interest income, Right. So that is going to be in there regardless of the cuts. And then if we get slower cuts, then we're not going to experience downward repricing of the loan portfolio, as quickly where on the variable rate loans, that's 100% beta right away upfront. So I don't think that Whether we're getting 3, 4 or 5 cuts is going to make a substantial change to our interest income outlook.

Speaker 2

And if the cuts are delayed from the current projections that we have, I think the impact The 2024 earnings would be more moderate, but we would see more of the benefits in 2025 and beyond. So In the midterm horizon, I think our projection that we are sharing today would stand.

Speaker 4

Great. Thank you. And if I could just ask one more maybe on a potential capital return just given CET1 north of 12% and stock below book, any discussions around A buyback in 2024 or 2025? Thanks.

Speaker 2

Yes. As we mentioned, we have a strong capital base. And with our strategic reorganization that we are well positioned to take advantage of growth opportunities in 2024. This means that we do not have noticeable change from our position 3 months ago in terms of our share repurchase plan.

Speaker 4

Okay. Thank you for taking my questions.

Operator

The next question comes from Gary Tenner of D. A. Davidson. Please go ahead.

Speaker 5

Thanks. Good morning, everybody. I had a question about the expense guide for the year. The year over year or Q4 to Q4 obviously down greater than 5%. As you think about the any remaining cost saves from the restructuring that could benefit the first half of the year versus The typical seasonal increase from payroll, etcetera, is the Q1 or Q2 a little bit above Q4 and then kind of more of a back half of the year decline, just thinking about the kind of quarter by quarter trajectory there?

Speaker 3

Hi, Gary. Thank you. No, actually, because of the cost savings that are rolling through And because the cost savings already in our 4th quarter run rate only started after the risk happened in October, you're not going to see that year over year usual, the Q1 bump up is going to be offset by cost saves.

Speaker 5

Okay. Thank you. And then a follow-up on the net interest income guide, What deposit beta assumptions are you assuming relative to the 5 cuts potentially this year that you've got in your guide?

Speaker 3

Sorry, can you what kind of beta assumptions we are assuming relative to what?

Speaker 5

So the 5 cuts you've got in your NII guide, What kind of deposits are you doing?

Speaker 3

Yes. So in the so for example, just to put some context around this, Our total deposit beta on the up cycle that we are assuming is going to be by the time it's fully realized before the rates start to cut because you still have a little bit of more repricing going on to market of the back book. It's going to be over 60%, right? But on the beginning of the rate cuts, We're assuming a total deposit beta of under 30%, and we're still kind of trailing in the 30% handle into the Q4. So we really don't assume the beta on the downward side to really kind of start to flow into our numbers until 2025.

Speaker 5

Great. Thank you.

Operator

This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to management for closing remarks.

Speaker 2

Thank you. Once again, thank you all for joining us today, and we look forward to speaking with you again in 3 months. Thank you so long everyone.

Operator

The conference is now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.

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