Mondelez International Q4 2023 Earnings Call Transcript

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January 30, 2024
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Operator

Good day, and welcome to the Mondelez International Fourth Quarter 2023 and Year-End Earnings Conference Call. Today's call is scheduled to last about one hour, including remarks by Mondelez management and the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions]

I'd now like to turn the call over to Mr Shep Dunlap, Senior Vice President, Investor Relations for Mondelez. Please go ahead, sir.

Shep Dunlap
Senior Vice President of Investor Relations at Mondelez International

Good afternoon, and thank you for joining us. With me today are Dirk Van de Put, our Chairman and CEO; and Luca Zaramella, our CFO.

Earlier today, we sent out our press release and presentation slides which are available on our website. During this call, we'll make forward-looking statements about the company's performance. These statements are based on how we see things today. Actual results may differ materially due to risks and uncertainties. Please refer to the cautionary statements and risk factors contained in our 10-K, 10-Q and 8-K filings for more details on our forward-looking statements.

As we discuss our results today, unless noted as reported, we'll be referencing our non-GAAP financial measures, which adjust for certain items included in our GAAP results. In addition, we provide our year-over-year growth on a constant-currency basis unless otherwise noted. You can find the comparable GAAP measures and GAAP to non-GAAP reconciliations within our earnings release and at the back of the slide presentation.

Today, Dirk will provide a business and strategy update, followed by a review of our financial results and outlook by Luca. We will close with Q&A.

I'll now turn the call over to Dirk.

Dirk Van de Put
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at Mondelez International

Thanks, Shep, and thanks to everyone for joining the call today. I will start on Slide 4. I'm pleased to share that we delivered our best year ever in 2023, with robust top line growth, continued share improvements, record profit dollar growth and strong total shareholder return.

Our double-digit top line performance was driven by strong pricing execution and positive volume mix growth. We also delivered continued share improvement as consumers across the globe remain very engaged with our iconic snacking brands. We set another record for gross profit dollar growth achieving $2.2 billion, through ongoing cost discipline and sound pricing to offset cost inflation, as well as volume leverage.

We continued our track record of strong free cash flow, generating $3.6 billion. To accelerate our strategy of global snacking leadership, we continued to invest significantly in our brands and capabilities, driving multi-year growth on both, the top and bottom lines.

I'm especially proud of our record financial results, as well as returning nearly $4 billion in capital to shareholders. These results deepen our confidence that the strength of our brands, our proven strategy, our continued and increasing investments, and especially our great people, position us well to achieve our long-term financial targets in 2024 and beyond.

Turning to Slide 5, you can see that 2023 was a strong year on both, the top and bottom lines with substantial reinvestments to drive continued growth in the year ahead. Organic net revenue grew 14.7% or $4.6 billion versus prior year. Our continuing solid performance in volume/mix demonstrates that consumers continue to prioritize our brands and categories. We also delivered record adjusted gross profit dollar growth of $2.2 billion, up 18.8%, significantly lapping the last several years. We are proud of our team's continued focus and commitment, which enables us to continue investing in the business to drive further sustained growth.

Accordingly, we increased A&C investments by more than 21%, helping to drive consumer and customer loyalty, both our iconic global brands and our local jewels, which represent the taste of the nation in their markets. These results translated into strong OI growth of nearly $1 billion, up more than 19% versus prior year.

Adjusted EPS grew 19% on top of strong growth in the past several years. All told, we remain confident that our virtuous cycle of strong gross profit dollar growth., fueling local first commercial execution and increasing investments in our strong brands, capabilities and talent, will enable us to continue delivering attractive sustainable growth.

I'm especially proud to share that we continue to outperform our peers in total shareholder return. As you can see on Slide 6, our five-year TSR is nearly double the average of our peer group, our one-year return is particularly impressive with Mondelez delivering double-digit growth, while our peer average return has fallen into negative territory. We view these results as evidence that we have the right strategy, the right brands and the right people to continue delivering long-term value for our stakeholders.

Switching to Slide 7. Our performance in 2023 gives us confidence that we have not only the right growth strategy, but also the right execution to deliver it. Here are just a few highlights of our strategy in action. Our biggest global brands, Oreo, Milka and Cadbury achieved more than $10 billion in global net revenues. We continue accelerating our focus on our core categories for chocolate, biscuits and baked snacks because these categories offer attractive growth and profitability. We remain on track to deliver 90% of our revenue through these core categories.

We also continue to make strong progress in executing our growth strategy. Our US supply chain has stabilized, and we have added more than 600,000 stores to our emerging market distribution channels. Additionally, we continue to advance our portfolio reshaping strategy. In 2023, we integrated Clif Bar and Ricolino, now we are harnessing the power of these recent acquisitions to strengthen our presence in the global snacks bar and the Mexican chocolate and candy segments. We also completed the sale of our developed market gum business for $1.4 billion, providing another important source of reinvestment to further advance our brands, talents and capabilities.

On Slide 8, along with our financial performance. I'm pleased to share that we made significant progress towards our sustainability goals and targets in 2023. First, we continued to advance our leadership in more sustainably sourced critical ingredients. About 80% of the cocoa volume used in our chocolate brands is sourced through Cocoa Life, our signature cocoa sourcing program that works to lift up the people and restore landscapes where cocoa grows.

We also made continued progress in helping to combat climate change. We achieved an important milestone in 2023 by submitting our roadmap to achieve net zero by 2050 through the science-based targets initiative. Additionally, we continued advancing our Light and Right packaging strategy. More than 97% of our packaging now is designed to be recycled.

We also continue investing in ways to empower consumers to make more mindful snacking choices that fit into their healthy active lifestyles. More than 55% of our snacks revenue comes from mindful portion snacks, that is snacks that are packaged in individually wrapped mindful portion serving sizes or with clear mindful portion recommendations on pack. These are just a few highlights of our continuing progress towards building a more sustainable snacking company.

We continue to believe that helping to drive positive change at scale is an integral part of value creation with positive returns for our stakeholders. We encourage you to watch our Annual Snacking Made Right report, which will be published in April to view our full-year sustainability data.

Turning to Slide 9, you can see that like many companies, we continue to navigate through a dynamic operating environment. We are closely tracking and planning around a number of near-term themes, including continuing inflation, shifting consumer habits, geopolitical challenges, rising cocoa prices, just to name a few. We are well-positioned to address these challenges and we remain confident that we can deliver an on-algorithm year. Our confidence is rooted in our conviction that we have the right strategy, the right execution and the right people as well as very strong widely loved brands.

We continue to see momentum in the majority of our key emerging markets. Our categories remain resilient and our solid volume mix performance demonstrates that consumers continue to prioritize our iconic snacking brands. To continue accelerating this momentum, we are continuing to increase our investment significantly in our brands and capabilities. We are pleased that our US supply chain has substantially improved, and we continue to focus on expanding distribution opportunities in both, developed and emerging markets. We are also making solid progress in our European pricing negotiations.

We expect to deliver robust EPS growth in both, constant and real dollars in 2024. And overall, we remain confident that we have the right strategy to effectively navigate today's volatile environment while continuing to focus on long-term sustainable growth.

In conclusion, I'm pleased to reiterate that 2023 was another record year. Our focus and portfolio reshaping strategy is working and we are well-positioned to continue driving attractive growth in 2024 and beyond. By continuing to double down on our attractive core categories of chocolates, biscuits and baked snacks, investing in our widely loved brands, focusing on operational execution and cost discipline and empowering our great people, I am confident that we can deliver strong performance for years to come.

With that. I'll turn it over to Luca to share additional insights on our financials.

Luca Zaramella
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer at Mondelez International

Thank you, Dirk, and good afternoon, everyone. Before I get into our financial results and the 2024 outlook, it is important to provide some context related to market gum divestiture and its impact on our results.

On Slide 11, you can see that the impact of the divestiture on revenue was roundabout $500 million, while growth [Phonetic] 0.3 percentage points negative. EPS was impacted by minus $0.11. I'll give you more color as this relates to the outlook later in the call and how we plan to fully offset impact on income.

Moving to Slide 12. In 2023, we delivered exceptional results, starting with double-digit revenue growth with both, volume and value contributing. As we keep saying, gross profit dollars is the most important P&L variable as it allows to reinvest and protect on our virtual [Phonetic] cycle. Last year, GP dollars grew by $2.2 billion, allowing substantial reinvestments, strong earnings and robust cash flow generation.

The strength of these results can be seen across all regions and categories. Revenue growth was plus 14.7% in the year with 1.3 points of growth coming from volume/mix. For the quarter growth was about 10%, with a slight decline in volume mix.

Emerging markets grew by 20.4% for the year and 14.9% for the quarter, with strength coming from a substantial number of key countries, including Brazil, China, India, Mexico and the Western Andean. Developed markets grew plus 11.1% for the year and plus 6% for the quarter, including robust growth from both, US and Europe.

Moving to portfolio performance on Slide 13. Our chocolate and biscuit businesses, both delivered double-digit growth for the year, also gum and candy continued to perform well, with superior growth in emerging markets. Biscuits grew plus 11.9% for the year and plus 5.5% for the quarter, a large number of brands delivered strong growth for 2023, including Oreo, Ritz, Chips Ahoy!, Belvita, Tate's, Give & Go, 7DAYS, TUC and Club Social.

Chocolate grew plus 14.5% for the year and plus 11.2% for the quarter with significant growth across both, developed and emerging markets volume mix was up by 2.5% for the year and 2.4% for the quarter. Global like Cadbury Dairy Milk, Milka and Toblerone, all delivered extraordinary growth, while we also deliver strong growth with many of our local jewls, including Lacta, Ricolino and Cote d'Or.

Gum and Candy grew more than 28% for the year and 20% for the quarter. Key markets including Brazil, Mexico, China and the Western Andea area, all performed well.

Let's review market-share performance on Slide 14. We had or gained share in 65% of our revenue base with strong results in both, chocolate and biscuits. Given the amount of pricing we took in the last couple of years. We see this as a strong accomplishment and our brand investments both, from a quantity and quality standpoint, clearly played a role.

Turning to regional performance on Slide 15. Europe grew plus 14.5% for the year and plus 11.6% for the quarter. Strong execution led to positive volume/mix for the year, despite significant customer disruption in Q2. Profit in '23 was up plus 12.8% for the year and plus 1.6% for the quarter. Underlying profit in Europe continues to improve, but Q4 was negatively impacted by forex fluctuations on some cash deposit held in dollars, that function as a protection against currency volatility.

Excluding these headwinds, EBIT in Q4 was up nicely, despite the significant increase in ASC [Phonetic]. North America grew plus 9.5% for the full year, while Q4 grew plus 1.9% against an exceptionally strong compare of almost 20% in 2022. Full year growth was driven by higher pricing, broad-based strength across brands and channels and solid volume/mix. In Q4 volumes declined as a result of softening US biscuit category, tight inventory management in advance of Q1 pricing and declines in Give & Go in place.

Give & Go was impacted by our decision to release some of the holiday's gingerbread kit in a low profit. We continue to be very happy with Give & Go overall. Clif results were driven by lower bar consumption and inventory depletion connected to retailers building inventory in Q3 to minimize potential disruption ahead of a system transition in early October. As a result, we made adjustments to inventory, driving the year-over-year shipment decline. We feel comfortable with current inventory levels, along with our programing and investments to drive '24 growth.

Overall, we are confident regarding our prospects in '24 for North America, given our strong activation plans PDP's [Phonetic] expansion drove channels and substantial investments in A&C. We're going to give you a better sense of these opportunities at CAGNY.

North America OI increased plus 22.7% for the year due to strong pricing and solid volume. For the quarter, OI increased by 9.5%. AMEA grew 11.7% for the year and 7.9% for the quarter. India grew strong double-digits for the quarter, driven by both, chocolate and biscuit. China grew high single-digits for the year and quarter as well. Southeast Asia grew mid-single digits for the year and Australia delivered strong results for both, the year and the quarter.

As it relates to volume mix performance in the region for Q4. There has been some pressure on Western consumer brands in the Middle East. Since the war began and we have not been immune from that with an impacted sales in the Middle East and part of Southeast Asia. We are supporting colleagues who have been impacted in different ways around the world, as well as working with NGOs partners to aid in new [Indecipherable] in the regions.

While volatile and difficult to predict on a go-forward basis, we are tracking the situation and working with stakeholders and planning for these dynamics in our 2024 outlook.

AMEA increased OI by 14.5% for the year and 18.5% for the quarter, continuing a strong track record of annual top and bottom line growth. Latin-America group 34.8% for the year and 28.6% for the quarter, with strong volume mix growth and strong price execution. Ex-Argentina growth for LA was plus 18.1% for the year and 9.2% for the quarter. This define the good work done by our teams, beyond price management in Argentina.

Latin America delivered another strong year of profitability. OI grew plus 48.5% for the year and more than 49% for the quarter. Strong volume mix pricing that continuation of gum and candy momentum drove these results.

Turning to Page 16. For the year, we delivered strong double-digit OI dollar growth driven by record high increase in gross profit of nearly $2.2 billion. This growth has enabled strong levels of the investment behind brands and capabilities for '24 and beyond. In Q4, we also saw strong double-digit OI and gross profit dollar growth of more than $500 million, driven by top line strength and ongoing cost recently. Other was impacted by the forex dynamics and some production in US dollar that I discussed about Europe.

Next to EPS on Slide 17. Full year EPS grew plus 19% in constant currency, the vast majority of this growth was driven by operating gains. And despite currency headwinds, we grew adjusted EPS at reported forex by 14.3%. Adjusted EPS will be $3.30 per share including $0.11 of contribution from DM Gum. I'll talk more about our plans for '24, but we will aim at removing as much stranded cost as possible.

Turning to Slide 18. We delivered $3.6 billion of free cash flow for the full year, including the impact of more than $380 million related to cash taxes from the liquidation of our KDP stake. Our balance sheet remains quite strong as full year leverage ended at 2.6 times.

Let me take a moment to discuss our outlook and some of our key planning assumptions on Slide 20. For the current year, we expect to deliver on our long-term algorithm for revenue, earnings and cash flow. We expect to be at the upper end of our 3% to 5% Algo range for organic net revenue growth as pricing instance [Phonetic] of market with significant chocolate portfolio such as Europe is expected to be higher than historical levels.

We expect free cash flow of $3.5 billion plus. In terms of key assumptions for inflation, we expect a high-single-digit increase for '24, this inflation is driven by significant increases in both, cocoa and sugar, as well as another upstate [Phonetic] in labor costs. As Europe faces more inflation than any other market. We expect customer disruption during Q1 and potentially into Q2 associated with our annual price negotiation process. This process is happening earlier in some cases than last year, so impact might be more pronounced in Q1 for top and margin lines.

We also remain committed to substantial brands support in this region and all the others similar to our stance over the last several years. In terms of interest expenses, we expect approximately $325 million. We are expecting $0.03 of EPS of headwinds related to forex impact for the year. In terms of taxes, we expect an ETR in the mid-20s. Share purchase expectations are around $2 billion.

Turning to our EPS outlook on Page 21. With respect to adjusted EPS, we expect high single-digit growth of our reported base '23 of $3.30 per share, reaching to $0.11 of contribution from our divested developed gum business. We expect to eliminate nearly all of these $0.11 impact by removing stranded costs. In fact, we made good progress by already realizing the $0.03 of stranded cost savings in late 2023.

With that, let's open the line for questions.

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Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Andrew Lazar, Barclays.

Andrew Lazar
Analyst at Barclays

Hello, everybody. Dirk, I was hoping, we could get a bit of a state of the union and how you see the performance in key markets at this stage. As we saw a bit more volume weakness in North America in the fourth quarter, and conversely, it still seems like there's strength in many of the other key markets, trying to get a sense of how you see this playing out in '24 and whether similar cadence across your markets might be the same or where it might be a bit different. And then I've just got a follow-up.

Dirk Van de Put
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at Mondelez International

Okay. Thank you, Andrew. Yeah. I mean, we see there's a very strong full-year performance. We feel that there is portfolio strength, which is broad-based across our regions, across the categories, across the brands. The volume mix growth is solid for the year. We expect that to continue into next year. Our price execution has been very good this year across the business. Share performance is good. North America, we recovered. AMEA, we've been gaining share. Europe, we had some disruption effect during the year, but we started to recuperate strongly at the end of the year.

The strength in emerging markets continues broadly and can comment a little bit on where there are some short-term issues. And then, we've got some very strong gross profit growth and $2.2 billion for the year, which allow us to reinvest quite significantly in the business. And so the acquisitions are doing well. EPS growth adjusted 19%, [Indecipherable] 14%, strong cash flow. So, we feel good as we enter 2024.

We have some more pricing coming in, but in North America, that's already agreed. In Europe, we're in line with where we were last year and the majority is all -- already agreed. We are planning to continue with strong investments in our brands, with strong activations. The acquisitions, we expect to continue to play a big role for us. And so overall, and maybe another point to mention is that we have this distribution runway of adding distribution for our brands around the world.

So, we feel it was a very strong '23 and we feel good entering '24. Now, that doesn't mean that there are no particular issues that are on our mind, so the first one would certainly be the cocoa prices and our need to price as needed. We are well covered for the year, but we need to, mainly in Europe, get those prices agreed.

Consumer, while the consumer is feeling better and more positive short-term, we see that elasticity is still at or below historical norms, but there is some uptick in consumer elasticity in some spots around the world. It is to be expected that we will have customer disruption in the beginning of the year in Europe. The annual negotiations are in progress. Like I said, we are in line where we were last year and majority is agreed, but we still have some to go.

And then maybe a few words on some of the effects on the volume in Q4, which we don't think will continue in Q1 in certain instances, so there is some tensions in the Middle East, and that has some effect on Western brands and we have some of those Western brands. We expect that to continue in Q1 and Q2. But gradually over the year, that will fade away and that is the main reason why our AMEA is not as strong in volume/mix as you would expect.

And then North America. Luca said it in the comments, particularly in the US, because of very -- specific one-off reasons, stopping part of the range of Give & Go, the systems change in Clif. We expect to return to good volume mix growth in North America, in the beginning of next year.

All these items that I'm talking about are included in our full year outlook. And so, we believe at this stage, particularly since we have to see how the negotiations go in Europe, that we should guide towards our own algo result for '24, probably more towards the higher side, but we are going to continue with all the things I said and we'll see how the negotiations go in Europe. That's probably the main question mark that we have at this stage.

Andrew Lazar
Analyst at Barclays

Okay. Great. Thank you. A quick follow-up for Luca and some of this you covered a little bit, Dirk. But I think it was Street expectations for organic sales growth for '24 to maybe be a little bit above the 3% to 5% long-term algorithm, just given the pricing that you're taking. So maybe, Luca, you could walk us through some of the key puts and takes to keep in mind as we think about the sales growth guidance for the year and maybe the phasing aspect of it. Thanks so much.

Luca Zaramella
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer at Mondelez International

Thank you, Andrew. I will start by saying that guidance for '24 in our mind is solid, particularly as we look at what drove '23 and the continuation of that momentum into '24. And so, we can, I believe, count on resiliencies of our categories. We're happy, as I said, in the prepared remarks on our share performance. I think, you will see momentum in our share, particularly in the first half and that these related to the unprecedented A&C investments we put forward. There are still material distribution opportunities that will help us model through some of the challenges that we discussed in the prepared remarks.

And finally, the acquisitions, I think, will continue to be accretive for us both, in terms of top-line and bottom-line. Decomposing the revenue guidance, pricing is clearly a key component of this plan. Its contribution will be a little bit less than we have seen in '23, but it is higher than an average year, and particularly as we price away cocoa, chocolate will contribute to most of the pricing in '24.

Pricing, as we mentioned, presents a couple of challenges. One is potential customer disruption in Europe. We have plans for it, part of it is also in the base of '23. But while I feel positive and we've said more than half of the prices is secured at this point, we cannot really say what is going to happen. And particularly as we look into Europe, clearly we don't control customer disruption. Having said that. I think it is important to realize that our brands are strong and that they drive significant traffic for retailers. So, couple that with the fact that prices is common to market and many competitors have to price. I think we feel, we feel quite positive at this point in time quite frankly.

The second one is elasticity for which I feel better because competitors, as I said, will have to price too, but also because our brands are unique and we have been investing quite a bit. We expect for the year volume to be mildly positive with a good contribution actually when we -- excluding the customer disruption. So at this point in time, given we don't control the level at which customer disruption will affect the plan, we wanted to be a little bit on the cautious side. And look, reality is if we push this through and we are successful, most likely there will be revenue upside. And so, as I said, we feel good.

Importantly. I want to say, North America, we have very good plans as we go into 2024. And I think the lineup of all these plants plus the combination of the momentum in the acquired platforms is good. I want to say Latin America in our case continues to be good. AMEA, despite some of the challenges has a lot of momentum, in India and China that will continue

And finally. I think. If you look at Europe excluding customer disruption, the underlying business and the categories are doing well. So, I believe the year will play out well for us, depending, obviously, on the extent of customer disruption.

Andrew Lazar
Analyst at Barclays

Thanks so much.

Luca Zaramella
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer at Mondelez International

Thank you, Andrew.

Operator

Our next question comes from Ken Goldman, JPMorgan.

Ken Goldman
Analyst at JPMorgan Chase & Co.

Hi. Good afternoon.

Dirk Van de Put
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at Mondelez International

Hi, Ken.

Luca Zaramella
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer at Mondelez International

Hi, Ken.

Ken Goldman
Analyst at JPMorgan Chase & Co.

Hi. I just wanted to clarify a little bit about the EPS guidance. So it's on algo of a $3.30 base, but it's actually above algo if we think about it on a like-for-like basis versus the $3.19, right, if you exclude Gum from both, 2023 and 2024, and please correct me if that's not accurate. I'm just curious what would necessarily -- what gives you the confidence it will be a little bit above algo, just on that like-for-like basis. And maybe how much of that underlying is sort of the elimination of some stranded costs as you think about it that might just give a little bit more of a boost to the year than we might typically have.

Dirk Van de Put
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at Mondelez International

Yeah, thank you for the question, Ken. We wanted to make sure it was clear that we are trying to eliminate all stranded cost. And so we really wanted to guide high single-digit cost the higher base. The confidence comes from the fact that as I said, we are going to have excluding the customer disruption volume momentum into the business and that provides leverage. We will continue pricing in a very disciplined manner and that will offset the material inflation that we see.

Clearly, we will continue with cost discipline and productivity. And the fact that we will eliminate 70%, 80% of the stranded cost into '24 allows us to guide to high single-digit of higher base. In all these algo, we are not going to have -- I have to say 20% A&C increase another year, but it will be most likely high-single-digit or double-digit. So, we will continue investing across all the regions across all the brands and so we feel good about that.

Remember, finally that through the integration of Ricolino, there will be synergies coming to fruition. We are literally going live with SAP in few days, and hopefully that will unlock both, revenue and cost synergies for 2024.

Ken Goldman
Analyst at JPMorgan Chase & Co.

Thank you. And then quick follow-up, you mentioned disruption, a little bit more in 1Q this year. With the understanding, it's quite early, is there any way we can get a little bit more of a quantitative sense just how to think about some of the impact potentially on the top and bottom-line in the quarter. I realize that, like I said, it's impossible to kind of completely forecasted at the time, but just any kind of magnitude at this point would be helpful as we think about our models perhaps.

Dirk Van de Put
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at Mondelez International

Look, I think as you look at the Q1 revenue pacing, we're going to have a revenue maybe number that is a little bit below the full year ago. I think you're going to be hopefully happy with the numbers you see across three regions out of the four. Europe is going to be more impacted in relative terms versus the impact that we have already in the base in '23 in Q2. And most likely volume mix excluding the customer disruption is going to be a nice number and positive.

I believe total volume mix might be tilted to slightly negative because of the disruption, but I can't go any further than that. We are in the middle of negotiations and conversations with retailers. And we have planned, we have a sense of what might happen, but time will tell exactly how we will lend pricing in Europe.

Ken Goldman
Analyst at JPMorgan Chase & Co.

Understood. Thank you.

Dirk Van de Put
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at Mondelez International

Thank you, Ken.

Operator

Our next question comes from Bryan Spillane, Bank of America.

Bryan Spillane
Analyst at Bank of America

Hey. Thanks, operator. Good afternoon, Dirk, Luca.

Dirk Van de Put
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at Mondelez International

Hi, Bryan.

Luca Zaramella
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer at Mondelez International

Hi.

Bryan Spillane
Analyst at Bank of America

Hi. Just -- I have a couple of questions actually. One is just getting back to the guidance and I just want to tie in, it's $2 billion of share repurchase this year, but you also repurchased quite a bit of shares in the fourth quarter. So if we think about the impact that share repurchases or a lower share count would have on fiscal '24, it should be more than the roughly 2% that a $2 billion repo would suggest right? Just simply because of the timing of your '23 share repurchases were so late, it should drive the share count down a little bit more than we would normally see. I just want to make sure I'm thinking about that correctly.

Dirk Van de Put
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at Mondelez International

I think you're thinking about that correctly, yes.

Bryan Spillane
Analyst at Bank of America

Okay. All right, because that's going to square to just how much we need to burden operating profit growth and. I think it's not going to be quite as high as I think as it would have sort of looked. Okay. Thanks for that. And then the second question, just Luca, if you could talk a little bit about Argentina, it's been topical over this earnings season for companies operating there, we've seen a range of outcomes. I guess or actions companies have taken, so if you could just kind of walk us through, Argentina. The devaluation at all have any effect on local operations. What's incorporated into the guidance. And also maybe if you could just touch on, is that's what's driving the Fx guidance to be so moderate, because we've fielded that question a bunch over the last few minutes. Thanks.

Luca Zaramella
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer at Mondelez International

Yeah. So Argentina for us is around about the $600 million business. We are very happy the way the business has been managed over the years. We have a clear playbook. What matters in Argentina for us is not necessarily top line growth, is not share. It is about protecting the cash that we have there and Argentina has been consistently generating cash for us we have been able also to take some cash out of the country. Some of the companies that talked about exposure on net monetary position, our net monetary position is in control, it will go down over over the course of '24, as we have a clear playbook.

And by the way, we incent Argentina not like all the other business units. But we incent Argentina on net monetary position and free cash flow generation. There was a little bit of a spike in net monetary exposure in Q4, and that was as the old government put in place some price control mechanism. But as those had been released. The net monetary position in Q1 is going to be very manageable and I don't expect any major impact due to that.

It's also fair to say that we have full control of the operation, we are free to price at this point in time and the team is fully committed to protecting as much as they can the size and the scale of Argentina so any issues or whatsoever in terms of in terms of impairment. Clearly, there has been material devaluation, the parallel market runs at rates that are even higher than the official one reported that are obviously already much higher than than last year.

And so, we will have to cap most likely growth for Argentina going forward into 2024. Having said that, it becomes a moot point as we guide you to organic net revenue growth and forex impact. And so the two offset each other, and if you take the guidance we gave in terms of organic net revenue growth and the impact on revenue, which is roundabout 0.5 of growth. Should do the three in terms of you forecasting Mondelez in total.

Bryan Spillane
Analyst at Bank of America

Thanks, Luca.

Luca Zaramella
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer at Mondelez International

Thank you, Bryan.

Operator

Our next question comes from David Palmer with Evercore.

David Palmer
Analyst at Evercore ISI

Thanks. A couple of questions. On Europe and pricing so often we talk about the retailer customer and the dynamic of getting through pricing there. I wonder as you're taking pricing this year are you -- is your pricing strategy to offset the dollar impact that you're going to see from cocoa. It would seem like that would be a pretty reasonable expectation for the players there, given what's happening with cocoa, but maybe there some timing issues for 2024 there to think about.

And then how what -- from what you've seen about from the consumer, there is the pricing -- price elasticity there much different than what you would see from what you see in your biscuit business in the US, for example?

Dirk Van de Put
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at Mondelez International

Yeah. Your first assumption is correct in the sense that we are trying to offset the dollar impact of the inflation that we're seeing on our input costs. And we're not pricing for percentage margin. But offsetting that dollar impact, which, yes, we believe, is a reasonable position. I think this year, seeing the situation in Europe and the fact that the retailers are seeing probably some deflation in other areas of their business. It is a little bit of an explanation to explain that not only cocoa, but also sugar or hazelnuts are showing significant inflation which is not the expectation.

I think by now, they understand that it has to happen in chocolate. So we have high hopes that we will be able to land that in a good way. As it relates to elasticity, I would say the elasticity in Europe as being very reasonable. We might maybe expect a little bit of an uptick as prices keep on going up for the third year in a row, and particularly in chocolate.

But there's very little or low downtrading within the category because everybody will have to price. So it's a joint movement of all the brands. So we don't expect that there will be huge differences between different brands and not shifting of consumers. What we've seen in the past year is a strong price increase of 12% to 15% in Europe in chocolate with a very limited 0% to 0.5% effect on volume. And so that shows that the elasticity is very low. We think that is driven because of strong brands' loyalty, the fact that chocolate has a very distinct taste profile and consumers tend to stick with their chocolate brand because they like taste and people recognize the taste of their brands. So, private-label is very small and people do not tend to switch brands very easy, we call it the taste of the nation. Every country has their favorite chocolate. And then on-top of that, we will do significant investments, very strong activations. We've been driving seasonals very hard. Next year, we will celebrate 200 years of Cadbury, which will be a major activation in the UK. So all that combined make us believe, and we have proved in the past that the elasticity will be limited to our opinion in chocolates in Europe.

David Palmer
Analyst at Evercore ISI

And a quick follow-up. Distribution growth seems to be a key driver -- growth driver for the company. I don't think I've ever heard you say how much of your organic sales growth will come from distribution expansion. But if you had to guess how many percentage points of organic sales targets would come from that, what would you say?

Dirk Van de Put
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at Mondelez International

Well, roughly you can assume for the markets where we can derive significant numerical distribution, I'm talking about China and India, but we're now also starting to drive very hard in places like Brazil. We -- probably in those markets, you can expect that about 50% of our organic growth is driven through distribution expansion.

On a global basis, we're probably talking about 2% of our extra growth coming from this. The runway of this is still quite big to give you a few numbers. So since 2019, we've added 1.7 million stores in China, India and Brazil. But for instance [Technical Issues] our biscuits are now in about 3 million of the potential 6 million stores in China or our gum business is only in 2 million of the 6 million potential stores.

In India, we've added 180,000 stores in '23, we deployed 100,000 new VISI coolers. But it is over 900 -- sorry, 9 million retail outlets, we cover directly 2 million, and we have about 3 million that are indirect coverage. So within 5 million of the 9 million stores in India, and I can go on in the different countries. So I gave you the percentage is what it means for us, and the other message here is that the run rate, the years that we can keep on doing this are quite significant going- forward.

David Palmer
Analyst at Evercore ISI

Thank you very much. That's great.

Dirk Van de Put
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at Mondelez International

Thank you

Luca Zaramella
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer at Mondelez International

Thank you, David

Operator

Our next question comes from Robert Moskow with TD Cowen.

Robert Moskow
Analyst at TD Cowen

Hi. Thanks. I actually had a follow-up on the distribution question. Are you taking extra steps to monitor distribution levels at distributors or even the retailers in light of volatility of consumption. You know, there's been multinationals who have fallen into inventory de-loading situations in LatAm. You're expanding distribution so well, I'm just wondering if you're also taking extra steps to monitor it at the same time.

Dirk Van de Put
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at Mondelez International

Yes, yes, we are aware that the distribution expansion needs to be very well monitored. So, what we're putting in place is a direct connection, because we use mainly distributors to make this happen is a direct connection to their system, so we can read what they sell per store and what the sell-in is, how much the replenishment is. So, we we monitor that very carefully. We go slow in some of the cities where we're doing the expansion, so that we make sure that we can see them setting up the whole distribution system is profitable and that it can be maintained. So, we've had no surprises so far. I've done this many times in my career and I've had surprises. But so far things have gone quite smoothly. I think our teams around the world know what to do, they are on top of it.

We usually accompany these distribution expansions with very heavy activation in the cities that we are doing this. So, we feel pretty good that we have a very controlled way of doing it. And like I said, so far we've had no surprises whatsoever with this.

Robert Moskow
Analyst at TD Cowen

And a follow-up on that, in some of these markets you've introduced more digitized tools to enable small retailers or distributors to order or reorder and also monitor the performance on promotions I think. Has that improved your ability to keep track of distribution and monitor sales, because the tool is better than they were 10 years ago to monitor all this.

Dirk Van de Put
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at Mondelez International

Yes, we are still in a relatively experimental phase with that. We are, for instance, mainly experimenting with this in Latin America, largely in channels that we don't have immediate big coverage. So, as an example. I would say bars in Brazil would be typically something that we don't cover directly or indirectly at the moment. But we have started to have a presence and we are monitoring how that is going. I would say, those tools help the retailer order directly and get our products in there. It helps us to understand how much the store sells. Yes, we can monitor promotions. As a tool to monitor how our distribution is evolving, it's probably complementary to the other system I was talking about, but we prefer at this stage to monitor that through our distributors, because the way it works is, they will order through this new app. And then, we through our normal distribution system will deliver or we will use a third-party to do it. So, that's usually the source of the monitoring of distribution, not necessarily the new app for us.

Robert Moskow
Analyst at TD Cowen

I got it. Thank you.

Dirk Van de Put
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at Mondelez International

Thanks.

Operator

Our next question comes from Steve Powers with Deutsche Bank.

Steve Powers
Analyst at Deutsche Bank Aktiengesellschaft

Yes, thanks. Thanks for the question. Luca, I think based on the EPS guidance, combined with the $3.5 billion-plus free cash flow guidance. Towards the $3.5 billion kind of ignoring the plus, by focusing on $3.5 billion, I think it implies a 75% or lower free cash flow conversion. And I just wanted to kind of throw that past due and see if that's the message you intended to convey. If so, what might be some of the drags on that free cash flow conversion or if there is a higher level of free cash flow conversion we should anchor to as a target. Maybe you can talk about that.

Luca Zaramella
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer at Mondelez International

Thank you for the question, Steve. As we think about the free cash flow and net income conversion into free cash flow, important to realize that the dividend payout of the joint ventures that we have is not 100%, and so that is a little bit of a factor as you can see the conversion. The other one I would tell you is, we're going to have a slight uptick in capex, particularly as we need to invest in places like India, I mean, you look at the volume over the last five years in India, it has been stellar and we are very happy, but we are at a point where we need to put down a little bit more capacity. Same goes for Latin America and Oreo, and obviously we integrate platforms like Ricolino, etc.

The other one that will come into play in terms of capital expenses for '24 is SAP HANA. And so, I think that's another element you have to consider. I think look, the number I would like you to focus on is, what we deliver in '23, which net of the taxes we paid for coffee is roundabout $4 billion. And so there might be some one-time payments coming our way. And so we need to make sure that we have enough headroom, but I want to reassure you that in terms of free cash flow, we are very happy we have best-in-class I believe cash conversion cycle. We continue to be very disciplined in terms of lowering overdue across the board and inventories are coming down. So, we feel good about the cash flow generation of the company.

Steve Powers
Analyst at Deutsche Bank Aktiengesellschaft

Very good, very good, thank you for that. And it sounds like you guys talked a little bit more about this at CAGNY, but to the extent you can talk about it now, just the prospects for volume recovery and organic growth acceleration in North America. I guess. how quickly do you think that is likely to manifest in '24? Is that going to be a slower build or do you think we should expect some results sooner as you leverage some of the commercial investments, it sounds like you made in the fourth quarter?

Dirk Van de Put
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at Mondelez International

Yeah. So, -- and I think you said it right at the end there. In the fourth quarter, if you think about it, on one hand we had a good year and we were coming with a price increase, which by the way it has been agreed in the US in the beginning of the year, so no need to pushing volumes from our side. Then we had a Clif system integration changeover. And so, we needed to bring our inventory down and manage it very tightly and then we talked about the Give & Go holiday kits that we stopped selling because the margins were not interesting for us.

So, if I exclude those and look at the rest of the business, the volume mix performance in Q4 was in fact quite good. So, we're expecting a good volume/mix performance right away. In Q1 of next year. It is really a one-off situation in Q4. So, we don't really necessarily feel like there is a slowdown in North America. It's not going to be massive volume growth, but it's going to be positive volume growth in the beginning of the year. So, that's where we are, it's not going to be a slow build up. We will continue where we are without the exceptional that we have in Q4.

Steve Powers
Analyst at Deutsche Bank Aktiengesellschaft

Okay, very good. Thanks, Dirk. I'll pass it on.

Dirk Van de Put
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at Mondelez International

Okay.

Luca Zaramella
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer at Mondelez International

Thank you.

Operator

Our last question comes from Alexia Howard, Bernstein.

Alexia Howard
Analyst at Sanford C. Bernstein

Good evening, everyone.

Dirk Van de Put
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at Mondelez International

Hi Alexia.

Luca Zaramella
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer at Mondelez International

Hi.

Alexia Howard
Analyst at Sanford C. Bernstein

Hi, so two questions. First of all, on innovation. I'm just wondering if you can give us a quick status update on whether the pace of innovation is likely to pick-up going-forward. It feels like with the pandemic and the supply chain disruption, it's been very hard to do innovation over the last several years. Do you anticipate a pickup going forward? And then, I have a follow-up.

Dirk Van de Put
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at Mondelez International

Yes. We are going through a bit of a change in the way we look at innovation. If you think about our business around the world, we have a quite a rhythm of small innovation, new flavors new sizes of packs as we do PPA and RCM, but that leads to hundreds of small projects, which do drive our business, but we are gradually eliminating probably close to half of those small projects, because in fact over time, they don't have that much of an impact on the business.

Overall, our business is doing well, we can afford to do so and we are shifting our focus to bigger innovation projects and -- so the ones that I would mention is, first of all, making healthier versions of our mainstream products, so I am referring to, for instance, what you've seen so far in OREO Gluten Free or an Oreo Zero sugar in China, Gluten Free in the US, doing quite well and you can expect that we will continue to expand those efforts across other brands.

And then we are entering quite significantly in cakes and pastries and there you can expect us to push quite hard. And so you could see the OREO Cakesters or the Oreo Airy Cake in China. And these are all significant innovations that have the potential or tens of millions of dollars of net revenue per country. We're pushing hard on premium chocolate. So we launched for instance the Toblerone Pralines or we we have done some big innovations on our core chocolate tablets.

So these are bigger innovations that require more work, higher potential, but we are reshifting our efforts towards those. So, I don't know if I would call it, but you are asking Alexia, that we see pick-up the pace of innovation. I think the impact of innovation on our growth will increase in the coming years, but it's not driven by more innovation it's driven by better innovation, I would say.

Alexia Howard
Analyst at Sanford C. Bernstein

Very helpful. And then could I just follow-up finally, do you have any observations about the state of the American consumer? I think, we've heard from other companies that there's been downtrading. There's vulnerability, there is channel shifting. I'm just wondering if any of -- whether some of the challenges that you're seeing in North America are being driven by this consumer dynamic.

Dirk Van de Put
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at Mondelez International

Yeah, everything you're saying is true. Let me explain it a little bit. I would say the consumer as it relates from a behavior standpoint as in the fourth quarter show the biggest shifts and I can explain a little bit, the shift that we've seen. But from a mindset perspective, from a confidence perspective, in North America, probably the best in the last two-and-a-half years. So what they're doing is still reflecting sort of the tension they're under, but they are expecting the economy to improve and that better times are ahead for them.

So what are they doing? We see a little bit more of an elasticity effect and the way they react to that is they're waiting more we see particularly light buyers waiting for promotion, so not buying with the same frequency, but buying more, when on promotion. We see them downsizing going to smaller formats and buying more of those. We see shift in channels. They go to club channels ecommerce channels. That's the one we see winning.

And then, we have a number of sort of mechanical effects that we're seeing, particularly the snapped reduction in US, and so we see less disposable income for a certain group of consumers. But overall I would say, we expect that that gradually you will improve because of that mindset change that I was saying. So, the overall volume expectations as the year goes by in US, we are expecting to accelerate and to get better. That's a little bit our view on the US consumer at the moment.

Alexia Howard
Analyst at Sanford C. Bernstein

Great. Thank you very much. I'll hand it back to you.

Dirk Van de Put
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at Mondelez International

All right. Thank you. Well, thank you. I think that was the last question. As we said, we feel very good about '23, it was a great year for us. We are entering '24 with good momentum. I think we're prepared for everything that we are seeing ahead of it. And as I said, there is some issues that we have to look at. But despite all that and including those effects into our forecast for the year, we think that we're going to have a strong year. We'll see how the client disruption goes in Europe.

So, we have to wait a little bit to see how the first quarter goes by, but overall, we think we will have an on to the higher side of our algorithm year at this stage that we can forecast. Again, thank you and happy to answer any other questions that you would have through our IR department.

Luca Zaramella
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer at Mondelez International

Thank you, everyone.

Operator

[Operator Closing Remarks]

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    Chairman and Chief Executive Officer
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    Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer
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