Blue Bird Q4 2023 Earnings Call Transcript

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January 30, 2024

There are 11 speakers on the call.

Operator

Good morning, and welcome to Whirlpool Corporation's 4th Quarter 2023 Earnings Call. Today's call is being recorded. Joining me today are Mark Bitzer, our Chairman and Chief Executive Officer and Jim Peters, our Chief Financial Officer. Our remarks today track with a presentation available on the Investors section of our website at whirlpoolcorp.com. Before we begin, I want to remind you that as we conduct this call, we'll be making forward looking statements to assist you in better understanding Whirlpool Corporation's future expectations.

Operator

Our actual results could differ materially from these statements due to many factors discussed in our latest 10 ks, 10 Q and other periodic reports. We also want to remind you that today's presentation includes non GAAP measures, outlined in further detail at the beginning of our earnings presentation. We believe these measures are important indicators of our operations as they exclude items that may not be indicative of our results from our ongoing business operations. We also think the adjusted measures will provide you with a better baseline for analyzing trends in our ongoing business operations. Listeners are directed to the supplemental information package posted on the Investor Relations section of our website for the reconciliation of non GAAP items to the most directly comparable GAAP measures.

Operator

At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. Following our prepared remarks, the call will be open for analyst questions. As a reminder, we ask that participants ask no more than 2 questions. With that, I'll turn the call over to Mark.

Speaker 1

Thanks, Corey, and good morning, everyone. Today marks our first earnings call in the New Year, and I do appreciate that everyone's attention will be in our perspective for 2024. However, I want to take the opportunity to reflect and look back at last year. During this past year, there have been a number of achievements we're proud of. 1, we gained more than one point of market share in North America.

Speaker 1

This is a clear testimony of the success of our great products and brands in the marketplace. 2, we were able to reduce our net cost base by $800,000,000 which is what we had in mind when we started the year. And 3, the signing of our EMEA transaction with Arschlich marked a major milestone in our portfolio transformation and is expected to provide significant opportunities to unlock value. At the same time, there are a number of areas where we fell short of our own expectations. The promotional environment, which reversed back earlier than anticipated to a pre COVID intensity put pressure on our EBIT margins.

Speaker 1

And while our full year EBIT margin of 6.1% is solid, It is still more than a one point short of where we wanted to be. And we were not able to reduce our inventories fast enough, which negatively impacted our full year cash flow. Obviously, these results were impacted by a still unfavorable housing cycle in 2023. A rapid and steep increase of U. S.

Speaker 1

Mortgage rates led essentially to a freeze of existing home sales. Ultimately, this resulted in the lowest existing home sales in almost 3 decades. And given the strong historical correlation between existing home sales and appliance sales, But discretionary appliance sales, which are margin attractive, slowed down significantly. This was mitigated by strong replacement demand, which tends to be less margin attractive. These strong replacement sales confirmed our view of more intensive use patterns of appliances, leading to shorter replacement cycles, A favorable trend which we expect to continue in foreseeable future.

Speaker 1

Now the key question is, what does this all mean for 2024? Let me start on the housing macro cycle. We remain bullish on the mid- and long term housing cycle. The market has been undersupplied for over a decade by 3 to 4000000 units. The long overdue rebalancing of demand and supply will occur at one point, but not in the very short term.

Speaker 1

While we already see a gradual and steady recovery of new home orders and starts, We all know that these trends typically need 6 to 9 months to turn into appliance sales. The existing home sales market, on the other hand, will need a catalyst to unfreeze. But Catalyst can only be a return to lower mortgage rates, which you expect to moderate as the year progresses. So how will we position ourselves in 2024? Essentially, it will be all around cost discipline and margin expansion.

Speaker 1

On the cost side, we have put actions in place to deliver $300,000,000 to $400,000,000 in cost savings. While this number may appear lower than in 2023, we're not factoring any raw material savings. So these $300,000,000 to $400,000,000 are all structural cost takeout actions. The margin expansion will essentially be driven by the benefits of a refocused portfolio after the completion of the EMEA transaction, as well as a very disciplined approach focused only on value creating promotions and product mix. You will see later in our presentation a full year negative impact of pricing, But this is entirely related to carryover pricing effects.

Speaker 1

Lastly, as it relates to our portfolio transformation, We continue to expect to close our EMEA transaction by April. And in anticipation of this transaction closure, we are changing our reporting segments. We will not only highlight our major domestic appliance business in North America, Latin America and Asia, but also provide visibility to our KitchenAid Small Domestic Appliance Global Business. With strong margins, the KitchenAid Small Domestic Appliance business is a critical component of our brand and product improving life at home for our consumers. I am confident that our refocused portfolio, cost actions And improving free cash flow generation positions us for continued shareholder value creation in 2024.

Speaker 1

Now turning to Slide 6, I will provide an overview of our 4th quarter results. We delivered over 3% of revenue growth, including over one point of year over year share gains in North America, coupled with $350,000,000 of reduced costs. Working capital conversion and free cash flow of $366,000,000 was impacted by shipments occurring later in the quarter than expected. We exited 2023 with elevated trade customer inventories, which we expect to normalize mostly in the Q1 of 2024. Ultimately, we delivered ongoing earnings per share of $3.85 supported by tax benefits related to the Europe transaction.

Speaker 1

Now I will turn it over to Jim to review our Q4 regional results and perspective on 2024, including our plans for the proceeds of a recently announced India transaction.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Mark. Good morning, everyone. Turning to Slide 7, I'll review 4th quarter results for our North America business. We delivered 1% of revenue growth and 2 60 basis points of margin expansion. Sales growth was driven by over a point of year over year share gains resulting from new product introductions and improved supply chain execution.

Speaker 2

While this was partially offset by a normalized promotional environment. Additionally, resilient replacement demand lifted the U. S. Industry 2%. 4th quarter margin expansion was driven by significantly reduced cost, partially offset by negative price mix from a normalized promotional environment and lower consumer discretionary demand due to higher mortgage rates in 2023 slowing down existing home sales.

Speaker 2

Overall, the region delivered 8.4% margins for the quarter. Turning to Slide 8, I'll review our results for our Europe, Middle East and Africa Business. Revenue was down 3% year over year as the region continues to see demand weakness From negative consumer sentiment, strong cost takeout actions and held for sale accounting benefits drove nearly 400 basis points of margin expansion year over year to approximately 3%. We continue to expect the Europe transaction to close by April 2024 And later in the call, I will provide additional insights into the expected impact to our 2024 guidance and free cash flows. Turning to slide 9, I'll review the results for our Latin America business.

Speaker 2

With strong industry demand throughout the region and share gains in Brazil, Net sales excluding currency increased approximately 13%. Overall, the region delivered solid EBIT margins of 6%. Flat to last year as cost actions were offset by negative price mix and losses in Argentina from currency devaluation and costs related to ramping up new laundry factory. Turning to Slide 10, I'll review the results for our Asia business. The region saw net sales growth of 9%, driven by share gains and improving industry.

Speaker 2

EBIT margins of 1.3% with cost takeout actions more than offset by negative price mix. As you may have seen, we recently announced our intention to sell up to 24% of Whirlpool India's outstanding shares, while retaining a majority interest. We truly believe in the long term trajectory of India. It is one of the strongest growth opportunities for Whirlpool. Whirlpool of India's long term outlook for growth and margins are both in the high single digits making India very attractive to operate in.

Speaker 2

At the same time, this financial profile has created a very strong local public market valuation. Turning to Slide 12, I will review our 2024 guidance, which includes the Europe Major Domestic Appliance business only for the Q1 of the year. We have provided a reset baseline for 2023 results, excluding our Europe Major Domestic Appliance business from Q2 through Q4 of 2023. The reset baseline Approximately $2,600,000,000 net sales and approximately $33,000,000 of EBIT creating a like for like comparison for 2024. On a like for like basis, 2023 net sales were approximately $16,900,000,000 with ongoing EBIT margin of 6.8%.

Speaker 2

We expect flat 2024 net sales, including $700,000,000 of sales from the EMEA major domestic appliance business in Q1 and flat EBIT margin year over year on a like for like basis. We expect 2024 free cash flow of $550,000,000 to $650,000,000 A 50% to 75% increase driven by improved earnings and working capital reduction. We expect Full year ongoing earnings per share of $13 to $15 including an adjusted effective tax rate of 0%, an increase compared to 2023, which impacts 2024 earnings per share by approximately $1 Turning to Slide 13, we show the drivers of our full year 6.8% ongoing EBIT margin guidance. We expect a negative impact of 150 to 175 basis points from price mix. This reflects The first half of twenty twenty four carryover effect as the promotional environment normalized in the second half of twenty twenty three.

Speaker 2

We also expect continuing softer mix and discretionary demand in the first half of twenty twenty four from historically low existing home sales, partially offset by new product introductions. As we drive further reductions to our cost structure, We expect approximately 175 basis points of net cost margin benefit from $300,000,000 to $400,000,000 of cost takeout actions. We expect minimal to no impact to EBIT margins from raw materials this year based on recent commodity trends and executed supply agreements. We plan to continue a strong cadence of new product introductions with investments in marketing and technology impacting margins by approximately 25 basis points. Finally, we expect our portfolio transformation to provide approximately 75 basis points of margin improvement as we contribute the margin dilutive European Major Domestic Appliance business to the newly formed company.

Speaker 2

On Slide 14, I will provide context on our significant cost takeout opportunity. We experienced unprecedented cost inflation approximately $2,500,000,000 in 20.21 2022. In 2023, we were able to drive $800,000,000 of cost takeout, which is a significant step in resetting our cost structure. We expect to further reduce our costs by $300,000,000 to $400,000,000 this year. 2024 will benefit from $100,000,000 of cost actions taken last year.

Speaker 2

We expect $100,000,000 to $200,000,000 of additional cost takeout with our manufacturing and supply chain operations benefiting from ongoing productivity initiatives and reduced complexity as we enter 2024. And we also expect $100,000,000 of second half benefit as our ongoing portfolio transformation allows us to simplify our organizational operating model. Turning to Slide 15, I will introduce our new segment reporting structure effective January 1, 2024. We have updated our reporting structure with the anticipated closure of the Europe transaction. Our regional operating segments Historically included the results of our KitchenAid small domestic appliance business in the geographical regions they operated in.

Speaker 2

We will now only report the major domestic appliance businesses within their respective regions. We will now report our global KitchenAid small domestic appliance business also known as SDA as a separate segment. This business has an iconic brand and premium products with a reputation for performance and quality, perfectly fitting our vision of being the best kitchen and laundry company. We will continue to have strong brand synergies between the small domestic appliance and major domestic appliance product portfolio. The regional MDA businesses will have margin profiles 30 to 40 basis points lower than the previously reported figures due to SDA reporting as its own segment.

Speaker 2

On our Investor Relations website and yesterday's 8 ks, We have provided recast quarterly results for 2021 through the Q3 of 2023, reflecting our $1,000,000,000 SDA business with its strong 15% plus margins. Turning to Slide 16, I will review our new segment guidance. Starting with industry demand, we expect a dynamic global industry to be flat to up 2%. We expect to see similar demand trends in the U. S.

Speaker 2

That we saw in the second half of twenty twenty three with resilient replacement demand creating a solid footing for industry volumes and consumer discretionary demand continuing to be impacted by elevated mortgage rates driving down existing home sales. Overall, we expect MDA North America to be flat to slightly positive as well as we expect the MDA Latin America industry to also be flat to slightly positive. India has one of the Fastest growth rates globally and we expect MDA Asia industry volumes to accelerate by 4% to 6%. While we expect the SDA global industry to be up 2% to 4%, we want to preface this guidance with the fact that KitchenAid is largely present in the premium segment and also not in all SDA categories. Finally, we expect demand contraction of negative 8% to 6% in the Q1 for MDA Europe from continued negative consumer sentiment.

Speaker 2

For MDA North America, we expect to deliver full year margins of approximately 9% With promotional carryover negatively impacting first half margins and elevated channel inventories impacting first quarter demand, We expect approximately 50 to 75 basis points of sequential margin expansion every quarter and to exit 2024 with EBIT margins of approximately 10%. For MDA Latin America, we expect EBIT expansion and strong margins of 6.5% with cost takeout actions and improved consumer sentiment. For MDA Asia, we expect margin expansion to approximately 3% EBIT margins. For SDA Global, we expect very attractive EBIT margins of approximately 15.5%. Lastly, we expect MDA Europe to deliver approximately 1.5% margins in the 1st quarter And overall, expect an ongoing total EBIT margin of 6.8%.

Speaker 2

Turning to Slide 17, Let me provide you with additional detail on our U. S. Industry expectations. Replacement demand drove industry growth in 2023 And we expect this trend to continue into 2024. The last 4 years of elevated usage is shrinking the historical average life of appliances, Coupled with an installed base from 2015 through 2017 that grew 4% to 5% and is nearing replacement.

Speaker 2

This is driving replacement demand to approximately 60% of industry volumes. We expect to continue to drive value creating share gain in 20 With housing starts trending higher in the second half of twenty twenty three, Whirlpool is disproportionately positioned to benefit from new construction demand. Forecasts for 2024 are calling for low to mid single digit growth in housing starts, most likely benefiting Whirlpool in the second half of 2024 or early 2025. For every 5% increase in new construction, we could see Approximately $100,000,000 impact with our leading builder share. Finally, discretionary demand, which accounts for approximately 25% of Total industry volumes is driven by existing home sales, which are coming off their worst year since 1995 and are expected to improve in the back half of twenty twenty four as interest rates moderate.

Speaker 2

Turning to Slide 18, I will share further perspective on 2024. We expect soft discretionary demand and higher retail inventory levels to weigh on total industry expectations in the first half of twenty twenty four with a more pronounced impact on Q1. We expect 2024 promotional activity to be at similar levels as the second half of twenty twenty three, creating a margin headwind to the first half of the year. We expect cost actions from 2023 to benefit the first half of twenty twenty four while additional cost actions ramp up. Additionally, the demand and earnings seasonality of our SDA Global business varies from our major domestic appliance business.

Speaker 2

It delivers approximately 75% of its demand and profitability in the second half of every year With consumers favoring small domestic appliances as gifts and increased baking activities in the fall and holiday season. Overall, we expect to deliver approximately 35% to 40% of our earnings in the first half of the year. Turning to Slide 19, I will provide the drivers of our free cash flow guidance. We expect improved cash earnings of approximately $1,100,000,000 to $1,200,000,000 We expect approximately $600,000,000 of capital expenditures as we continue to invest in our products and fund organic growth, including our plans to launch over 100 new products in 2024. We plan to improve our working capital conversion by approximately $100,000,000 largely through inventory reductions.

Speaker 2

We expect approximately $50,000,000 of cash outlays related to previously executed actions and complexity reduction with our simplified organizational model after the Europe transaction. Overall, we expect to deliver free cash flow of $550,000,000 to $650,000,000 or approximately 3.5% of net sales, including approximately $200,000,000 to $300,000,000 of cash consumption for MDA Europe business operations prior to the closure and one time charges. Turning to Slide 20, I will review how we are well positioned to deliver 2024 Capital Allocation Priorities. We have a solid balance sheet with $1,600,000,000 of cash on hand, Coupled with $550,000,000 to $650,000,000 of 20.24 expected free cash flows plus anticipated $400,000,000 to $500,000,000 of proceeds from asset sales. As we previously announced our intention to sell a portion of our interest in Whirlpool of India and recently signed an agreement to divest of our BrasTEMP branded water filtration business in Brazil.

Speaker 2

As you can see, we are well positioned to deliver our clear capital allocation priorities for 2024. Last year marked the 68th consecutive year of steady or increasing dividends from Whirlpool. Subject to Board approval, we expect to pay dividends of approximately $400,000,000 We are committed to maintaining our strong investment grade credit rating and reducing our debt by at least an additional $500,000,000 We expect limited share buybacks to offset share dilution. Finally, we are committed to funding innovation and growth with capital expenditures plus research and development of approximately 6% of net sales. Turning to Slide 21, you can see our commitment to deleveraging our balance sheet.

Speaker 2

As a reminder, in 20 22 with the acquisition of the value creating and Sync Raider business, we increased our debt by $2,500,000,000 in term loans. Compared to 2022, we expect at least $1,000,000,000 of debt reduction by the end of this year. With the combination of strong free cash flows expected in 2025 in the 1st full year following the close of the Europe transaction and our product innovations delivering earnings expansion and beginning to realize the free cash flow benefits of our adjusted effective tax rate. We are confident in our ability to further reduce our net debt leverage to approximately 2x by 2026. Now I will turn the call back over to Mark.

Speaker 1

Thanks, Jim. Turning to Slide 23, let me provide an update on our Europe transaction. As I mentioned in our Q3 earnings call, we passed major regulatory milestones with the approvals from the European Commission, Germany, Austria and China. The UK's Competition and Market Authority is in the process of conducting a Phase 2 review of a transaction. We are continuing a constructive dialogue with the CMA about the newly formed company that will benefit consumers.

Speaker 1

And we continue to expect the transaction will close by April. Turning to Slide 24, let me recap what you heard today. We will further improve our cost structure and are confident in our ability to deliver $300,000,000 to $400,000,000 of cost takeout. Our portfolio transformation to a higher growth, higher margin business continues to progress. The Europe transaction will meaningfully our structural free cash flows by approximately $200,000,000 to $300,000,000 in 2025.

Speaker 1

We have clear capital allocation priorities, including strong dividends and reducing debt leverage, supported by a flexible balance sheet with $1,600,000,000 cash on hand, along with strong 2024 cash generation. We're confident in the trajectory of our business and our portfolio transformation to deliver sustained shareholder returns. Finally, I will close on Slide 25 with an invitation to join us at our 2024 Investor Day February 27 at the New York Stock Exchange. We look forward to hosting our 1st Investor Day since 2019. We plan to review how our portfolio transformation is creating a very different We're excited to review our growth and margin expansion opportunities for our MDA North America business.

Speaker 1

We will highlight the rich history of our premium KitchenAid SDA business, in addition to introducing the remainder of our 2026 value creation goals. We hope to see you there. Now we will end our formal remarks and open it up for

Speaker 3

Your first question comes from the line of Sam Darkatsh from Raymond James. Your line is

Speaker 4

open. Good morning, Mark. Good morning, Jim. How are you?

Speaker 5

Good morning, Sam.

Speaker 4

Two questions. The first around the raw material assumption and the second question will be around North America major appliance margins. So first around raw materials, the so you're saying it's going to be neutral on a year on year basis. Obviously, we can see that Cold rolled steel is up meaningfully of late and on a year on year basis. So how much of your steel spend is on contract this year and is there an assumption that steel prices fall from here baked into your guidance or what sort of offsets there to steal.

Speaker 4

Just help reconcile what we're seeing in the markets versus what you're seeing on your RMI?

Speaker 6

Sam, it's Mark. Let me first maybe take the raw material question, then we can come to the non margin question. First of all, I know you're well aware, but more of a broad audience. Our number 1 raw material by steel, number 2 is resins in all forms and then it can spits up in smaller elements. As you know, in 2023, we got a tailwind from raw materials and right now we're guiding pretty much for almost no effect of this one.

Speaker 6

Raw material, again, as I mentioned, steel is the number one driver. And there is no you don't have formal hedging contracts with steel. You basically have contract with individual steel suppliers, which are regional, and they typically are on an annual base, certainly for U. S, less so in Latin America, but also in Europe, we have pretty much annual contracts. These annual contracts, That's why we have a very high degree of confidence in raw material assumption.

Speaker 6

They are largely locked in now. So typically these negotiations happen November, December in that timeline, and they're not done off a kind of on the spot CRU spot price. They're kind of done more on rolling averages and certain assumptions about So with all these contracts, the majority of these contracts fully in place, again, with the exception of Latin America, The variation which we expect from a steel price is very, very little. So that's why on the number one component, we have a very high degree of certainty. The number 2 component resins, we are more on a quarterly base.

Speaker 6

And obviously, there is an element about oil price assumptions in there, which you have a little bit more variation, but again, it's relative to steel, it's much smaller. So again, on these two components, Sam, we feel we're either contractually protected or right now we have certainly in plastics, I think we have a reasonable assumption for full year.

Speaker 4

Got it. And then the North American margin question. So, what was the 4th quarter 23% North American margin excluding small appliances and what is your assumed 24% exit rate for North America Major Appliances versus the 9% annual guide? Thanks.

Speaker 6

As you said, the North American margin in Q4 were we posted the 8.4% roughly and we refer to Full year base, KitchenAid typically has an impact of about 40 basis points on our margin business in North America. Now that's a little bit versus a little bit of seasonality in KitchenAid, if I have skewed towards Q3 and Q4. So you take that out of the equation, you're pretty much Exiting in 'twenty three, we were exiting around 8% roughly North American margin, which as we talked, that's about A good point below where we wanted to be in all transparency. We guide the full year excluding KitchenAid on 9%. And I think also in our prepared remarks, we were referring to we expect to exit 'twenty four with around 10% North America margin.

Speaker 3

Your next question comes from the line of Mike Rehaut from JPMorgan. Your line is open.

Speaker 7

Thanks. Good morning, everyone. Thanks for taking my questions. Good morning, Michael. First, I would love to get a sense just of the how you're thinking about the Promotional backdrop and cadence in North America MDA As 2024 progresses, I know that you kind of highlighted that on a consolidated basis, You expect price mix to be negative in the first half and flat in the back half.

Speaker 7

But I was hoping to try and get a sense of the inter play between how you expect 2024 to play out in terms of managing share gains, which You kind of highlighted another point of share in the Q4 and how you expect to manage the promotional backdrop as it progresses. And I guess part of the question here is, to the extent that promotions continue to, let's say, increase or in the near term, how you'd manage that versus your desire to continue to regain share?

Speaker 6

Michael, it's Mark. So let me try to address it. Let me first Take a little bit the Q4 in the rear mirror on North America because I think that highlights a lot of the challenges and opportunities which we have. And then As much as we can talk, I can give you a broader direction on 2024. So if you look back at Q4 2023, in particular North America, Ultimately, it comes down to the amount or the absolute amount of marketing or promotion dollars we put in the market are not unusual compared to pre COVID.

Speaker 6

The big difference was that the lift we had on discretionary demand was very limited. So ultimately, in hindsight, the ROI on some of the promotions did not work out the way we expected. So As you know, we repeatedly talked about, we focus on value creation promotions. And in hindsight, some of these promotions did not meet that benchmark. It's just because the discretionary demand of a pool of discretionary demand of a market was limited.

Speaker 6

So the whole equation got unbalanced, embedded with some margin erosion in Q4. As I also said, as we look into 'twenty four, and as you know, we don't give any forward looking comments on pricing, etcetera. But I said, our focus is on margin expansion. I mentioned your exit margins are below where we wanted to be. Right now, our focus is on margin expansion, obviously deploying all levers which are at our disposal.

Speaker 6

That's cost takeout, That's pricing, how we manage our mix, how we manage our new product introduction, but the focus is on margin expansion. And that is in the context of we feel good about our share gains. And right now, the level of share where we come from gives us solid base. And we will, at least for foreseeable future with our focus on margin spectrum.

Speaker 7

Great. I appreciate that. I guess, and I apologize if this is something that I missed in maybe the supplemental or some of the other comments, but Just look to get a little more detail on SDA for 2024 in terms of the overall size. I know you talked about the margin or the profit cadence, a quarter of profits in the first half, three quarters in the back half. But just how you're thinking about that segment and where the margins were in in 2023, just to get a comparable there?

Speaker 6

Yes, Mike, I can take this. 1st of all, Apart from the supplement, that we will spend a lot more time on February 27 in our Investor Day to show you a little bit of the history of the margin run rate, the seasonality. So there will be a lot more color to your question. So on a high level, right now, it's the seasonality is Similar to what you described, so there is a more skew towards the back half around the holidays. But even in the first half, there are some important holidays, which and we manage accordingly.

Speaker 6

The broader margins, and again, we will show that in the supplement, which you will see soon, Our 15.5% which we guided to 24% is slightly higher than the 23.1%. But even if I look at a multiyear KitchenAid SDA margin, it took me hovers around 16% EBIT. So it's a very solid a margin accretive business for us, which we, of course, we want to grow significantly more going forward.

Speaker 5

Yes, Michael, I think the other thing to highlight, you'll see in all the supplemental materials we provided is really if you look at the historical run rate of the business, it has been around $1,000,000,000 plus and 15.5%. And Some of the information that we did provide obviously showed a time period when that benefit or that business benefited from some of the trends that were going on during COVID. But I'd say today, what Mark highlighted in there and the size and all that is really more representative of what the trend that business has been on and why they were excited about the growth we have within there.

Speaker 3

Your next question comes from the line of Susan Maklari from Goldman Sachs. Your line is open.

Speaker 8

Thank you. Good morning, everyone. Thanks, Susan. Good morning. My first question is, you mentioned The $300,000,000 to $400,000,000 of cost actions that you expect to take this year, as you think about the ability to continue to reduce the cost structure, How are you balancing that relative to the growth initiatives that you have and the targets to get the business closer to those long term goals?

Speaker 5

Yes, Susan. So this is Jim. And I think the thing you've got to look at there is, as we talk about the cost takeout is, you saw this year to begin with, we significantly invested in technology and engineering and in our products and you saw that in our overall walk. And so if you really look at how that 300 to 400 breaks down, the first 100 of that is just cost savings we already implemented this year that are in areas that don't affect our ability to grow and drive innovation. Then we talk about maybe the next 100 to 200 within there and that's really driving efficiency both within our supply chain, our factories, and that comes from ongoing initiatives that we have that are just to become much more efficient in terms of how we manufacture or much more efficient in how we get product to our consumers in the end.

Speaker 5

And so again, those are not areas those don't affect the investments that we make. Then if you think about the 3rd bucket there that we've talked about is really SGA reductions from a simplified organizational model. That also is just us looking at how we operate as a company and how we operated in the past with a much larger business including EMEA, How do we simplify it? How do we make it more effective? Our investments within our products, whether it be engineering or capital, will actually be relatively consistent to even up this year.

Speaker 5

So the areas where we're cutting costs are not the areas that affect our ability to deliver growth and innovation. Actually invested what we are is we're reducing cost in other areas so we can invest more in those areas.

Speaker 6

So Susan, just to echo what Jim is saying and to be really crystal clear, We will we have and we will continue to invest heavily in new products and brand investments. Last year, despite all the pressure, we invested 75 basis points more into new product marketing and technology. We will continue to do so in 2024 and as you've seen also in capital plans, We are prepared to invest in new products. That's ultimately the lifeblood of our company and creates future growth. At the same time, we're also very mindful that we've got to create the funds for that.

Speaker 6

And these funds, to Jim's point, they come from carryover actions, they come from manufacturing efficiency. And frankly, after the Europe transaction is closed, We have a simpler business, and we will take advantage of relooking at our SG and A base in terms of how can we take advantage of now what is globally a much simpler easy business where we don't need to have all the complexity in its current structure.

Speaker 8

Okay. That's very helpful color. And then my second question is thinking about the cash flows. You mentioned that you came into the year with inventories a bit higher than what you had anticipated. Any thoughts on the timing of working that back down and what that might mean for the cadence of the cash generation this year?

Speaker 5

Yes, Susan. So this Jim, and listen, here's what I would say. As we talked about within our numbers, the overall cash flow guidance for the year that will reduce working capital by about $100,000,000 at a minimum. I think what you'll see is you'll see some of that come more probably within the second and third quarter, as we just look at where things are because we did already talk about that retailer inventory levels the beginning of the year were higher than we anticipated. And so obviously we believe that will put some pressure on shipments in the first of the year and our goal is to make sure we keep our inventories in line with the shipments, but then begin to reduce those inventories as we have the opportunity, but also then as we expect to the sales ramp up a little bit later in the year.

Speaker 5

So I would say not necessarily in the Q1, but more in the middle half of the year is when you should expect to see us reducing inventories.

Speaker 3

Your next question comes from the line of David MacGregor from Longbow Research. Your line is open.

Speaker 4

Yes. Good morning, everyone. Thanks for taking the questions.

Speaker 6

Hi, David.

Speaker 4

Hey, good morning, guys. Can you talk a little bit about the market share gains and at what price And was this really just a recovery of some of the share that you lost during the pandemic? Or do you think it might have been incremental with a different consumer or the different price point? And how does all this kind of mesh with what the consumer is doing right now in terms of mixing up or mixing down?

Speaker 6

Yes. So David, I mean, first of all, the 1.1.1. To be precise, full year gains in North America, The good thing is they're spread across multiple product categories. So it's basically not a single product category where we would point to share weakness. We grew across the board.

Speaker 6

Obviously, a number of new product introductions helped and supported that share growth. The other element which Partially helped, but it's not yet fully visible. We had significant share growth in the National Builder Business, but obviously because the broader market is still soft, That is not yet fully showing, but that's a big source of share gains. So it's pretty much across the board. I wouldn't point to specific price point.

Speaker 6

Now against the context of a broader market, and this is coming back to what I think we mentioned also in the last earnings call, the nature of a market, which is now so heavily impacted by the replacement markets, and again, with 60% of our sales right now of the total market, which is much more than past. Replacement market inherently comes with a slightly lower margin profile than discretionary demand. It's just what it is because Consumer Live will look for specific dimensions over in the rush. They only have 1 or 2 days to make decisions, so that typically comes with a lower margin profile. So I wouldn't point to specific price points where we gain market share, but the broader market being so heavily replacement driven, that doesn't necessarily help you from a price mix compared to previous periods.

Speaker 4

Got it. Thanks for that. And then just as a follow-up, I want to go back to the $300,000,000 to $400,000,000 cost reductions. I guess My question is really clarification. This is a net number, right?

Speaker 4

It's net of any inflation in your non raw material variable costs and fixed costs. In other words, your gross number is a net number.

Speaker 5

Yes, David, this is a net number like we always put on the net cost line. And so again, yes, it takes more in gross actions to get to this number as we have to offset inflation in certain areas and especially in some of our higher growth emerging markets outside the U. S, but this is a net $300,000,000 to $400,000,000

Speaker 3

Your next question comes from the line of Mike Dahl from RBC Capital Markets. Your line is open.

Speaker 9

Good morning. Thanks for taking my questions.

Speaker 5

Hi, good morning, Michael.

Speaker 6

Just a follow-up

Speaker 9

on the inventory Comments, when you look at where retail inventory ended up, I guess 2 part question, is there any specific category that So outsized inventory growth that you need to now work down. And then do you think Whirlpool was Effectively in line with the industry as far as the inventory build? Is that kind of a Whirlpool specific comment That an industry comment, how do you think you shake out versus the market in terms of where inventory position ended the year?

Speaker 5

Yes. So Michael, I'll start here and I'll let Mark kind of add a little bit of color to it. But I would say To begin with across categories, I can't say that I could call out and differentiate any one category where it's significantly different. Again, as we kind of got through the year end saw through set where sell through was from a holiday perspective and then you look across broader environment, I'd say it's in we see it in many of the categories. So I don't think that there's a big differentiation for us there.

Speaker 5

And then as said, is it a whirlpool only issue? I think, though, as you look across the entire industry and you look across the retailers right now, This is not a Whirlpool only issue. And again, as you've seen, many of our competitors have already started talking about things. You're hearing a similar story out there that everyone is seeing a retail environment that seems to have higher levels of inventory and then expected. So just based on at least information out in the public, I don't believe that it's a problem that disproportionately affects us.

Speaker 6

And Mike, maybe just give you a little bit more color and coming back to what I mentioned before is, Essentially, when you look back at Q4 North America, the industry sell through was softer than most people expected, okay. And that It comes back to, yes, the amount of discretionary demand out there was not as high as people expected. That led to both The return on investment on market promotions was just not attractive. And 2, it also led to higher inventories of the retailers relative to what we had in mind and industry sell through. I'm yes, as Jim mentioned earlier, I think that will impact somewhat the shipments the industry shipments in Q1 and maybe to a less In Q2, from everything, and of course, we don't have precise sell out data from competitors, but from everything which we see from a broader industry, It certainly was not a Vopo specific issue.

Speaker 6

This was across the board. And right now, it just means a little bit of inventory overhang

Speaker 9

Either Mark or Jim, around the free cash flow guide and specifically if I look at cash earnings and operating items, The expectation is $1,100,000,000 to $1,200,000,000 in fiscal 2024. You did you're expecting EBIT to be about flat at $1,150,000,000 On that number, you did $910,000,000 of cash earnings in 2023, it seems like your interest expense is unchanged year on year, your cash tax is unchanged year on year and so if your EBIT is unchanged year on year, what is the actual bridge in terms of Which items are getting you to a higher cash earnings number in 2024 or higher cash earnings conversion relative to EBIT.

Speaker 5

Yes. So Michael, this is Jim. And really, There's 2 components that go into that line. It's your actual earnings, which as you pointed out are relatively flat and that does make sense. And then the other one that's always hard from the outside to really kind of look at is that we have a lot of other operating accounts that are on our balance sheet such as accruals for promotional spend, such as accruals for employee compensation in other areas.

Speaker 5

And actually when we look at the end of this year versus the end of 2023 versus the end of 2022, what we saw is that because 2022 was a really strong year, you had a lot higher payouts on some of those areas within the beginning of 2023 that negatively affects cash. And when you come through a negative year that you don't have as high of payouts in some of those areas, it gives you a positive in the next year from an operating cash flow perspective. So it's a good question in that it doesn't really become apparent, but that's the biggest driver within that bucket that you will see. Then also throughout the year, there are just some non cash items that affect that differently here and there. But that's the biggest drivers that the changes in those other types of accruals that don't necessarily sit in working capital.

Speaker 3

Your next question comes from the line of Jason Haas from Bank of America. Your line is open.

Speaker 10

Hey, good morning and thanks for taking my questions. I'm curious if you could talk about what impacts, if if any you've seen from the disruptions in the Red Sea and just global container costs starting to increase here?

Speaker 6

Jason, it's Mark. So obviously, in particular with our heavy footprint on the Americas, the impact for Americas is less. Yes, there is some it impacted a little bit some of the East Coast shipments, Not so much in cost, more in time. So there's a 1 or 2 weeks later time. It could and will start impacting the European business.

Speaker 6

Right now, we're still in pretty good shape for Europe, but obviously that brings uncertainty more on the European supply chain to a much, much less extent of the North America supply chain. Container costs have been so far pretty stable for us. Again, possible in that context, where it came from excessively higher rates In the COVID and post COVID environment and now to more normalized rate, and the broader impact of the mix is limited. Keep also in mind, compared to any of our competitors, we are much more North America and Americas production base. So Relatively speaking, the container cost impact us a whole lot less than most of our competitors.

Speaker 10

Got it. Thank you. And then as a follow-up question, I'm curious if you could remind us what your sourcing exposure is to China? If you had any thoughts on, if we were to see higher tariffs placed on China, what would be the impact to your business and the industry overall?

Speaker 6

Yes. So Jason, I mean, first of all, we're split into 2 pieces. There's finished products and there's components. On finished products, Our exposure is relatively small. We import microwave food combination and some refrigerators into the Americas and into Europe and some dishwashers also into Europe.

Speaker 6

So on finished products, it's actually, frankly, in particular, for Americas, not a very big number. Components, in particular in electronics, you have exposure, like everybody else, to China or broader Asia, I would say, because it's not just China, it's also Vietnam, Thailand, Again, back to my earlier comments, in the competitive landscape, whereby long shot, the least exposed to China, And it's just because of our historic strong footprint in the Americas, our focus on producing of Americas and sourcing of Americas, except for electronics where you just have a limited supply base in the Americas.

Speaker 3

Your final question comes from the line of Erik Bissart from Cleveland Research. Your line is open.

Speaker 9

Two questions. I'll give the most to you. The first is the other half Of the free cash flow question, I understand the bridge within the cash earnings. Can you just give us a little bit of context of the 200,000,000 to 300,000,000 Europe cash usage that is alluded to in that slide. I just don't exactly know where that fits within the moving pieces.

Speaker 9

And then the second question relates, Mark, you talked a lot about the focus on margin progress, the flat margin in 6.8%. Related to that, I guess the core of it is that you still have this 11% to 12% long term margin guide and just wanted to see if that is the number that you're

Speaker 6

Thank you.

Speaker 5

Yes. So Eric, this is Jim, and I'll start with your first question there on EMEA. And Typically, if you'd looked within a full year, EMEA over some of the past years has consumed around $200,000,000 of cash and whether it's due to restructuring, It's due to some legacy liabilities and that is due to the operations of the business. Now as we look to close the transaction in the Q1 of the year, Typically that negative cash flow actually did occur much earlier in the year and then they would gain cash throughout the year. So to begin with, They start the year with a negative cash flow as they begin to build some working capital.

Speaker 5

The second piece of that though that comes along with it is that also within there, we have some various working capital financing type of programs that are related to accounts receivable and other things that we will unwind as we do this transaction and then as we contribute this business to the new company, There will be other things that might exist within there, but there are just some things we need to unwind as we go through the process. So right now, we look at it as possibly having an impact at least on our cash flow for the year of a negative $200,000,000 to $300,000,000 But once we get closer to the close, we'll update that number.

Speaker 6

And Eric, just maybe adding a comment on to Jim's point. To put it simply, the $550,000,000 to $650,000,000 cash flow, Excluding Europe on a normalized basis, it would translate into $800,000,000 plus. That's essentially what it means, because we have to unwind these Working capital financing activities in some other elements. So that's what it really means. Now to your second point about the margin progress, and again, I want to also highlight our upcoming Investor Day, where we give an update with the segments about our mid- and long term value creation goals.

Speaker 6

But in short, and Eric, that's consistent with what we said We absolutely don't see any reason why the margins which were pre COVID are not in sight. So I. E. In particular for North America, we For years, we have been operating on 12% or 12% plus operating margin in North America, and that's certainly what we see absolutely possible. Right now, we're working through, I mean, as you all can see, it's a very negative macro cycle.

Speaker 6

I mean, our industry is heavily impacted by existing home sales, and Existing home sales in the course of 20 months went from 6 +1000000 units to 3,700,000. So that's impacting us. But we know how to work through these cycles and that's why we're very confident that we over time can reestablish these margins as we were experiencing them before. Again, much more perspective on this one at our Investor Day. I guess with that, we come pretty much to the end of our session.

Speaker 6

First of all, I want to thank you all for Joining us today, and I think I mean, really, hopefully what you heard is, we feel good about where we are from our market share perspective. We also feel good about our ability to take out costs as we demonstrated in 2023 and as we are confident for 2024. And we frankly feel good about how we step by step, we strengthen our balance sheet and where we are from a broader funding and balance sheet perspective. I think all these elements set us up very well for working through a macro cycle, which we all see that. That's certainly going to impact the industry negatively in Q1 and probably also some extent in Q2.

Speaker 6

But again, we come from a very strong We know how to work through recycles, and we have, I think, the right actions in place to particularly also, once you look at the backup of 2024, have a very attractive business. So with that in mind, again, I want to remind everybody, February 27, that's where you will see a lot more perspective, particularly about our North America business, in particular about our KitchenAid SDA business, which we historically didn't put a lot of light on or didn't show you a lot. And we will also talk quite a bit about balance sheet and cash flow development. So again, February 27, and looking forward to see you all. Thank you.

Speaker 3

Ladies and gentlemen, that concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect.

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