Enova International Q3 2024 Earnings Call Transcript

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October 22, 2024

There are 9 speakers on the call.

Operator

Good day, and welcome to the Inova International Third Quarter 2024 Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in listen only mode. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Cassidy Fuller, Investor Relations.

Operator

Please go ahead.

Speaker 1

Thank you, operator, and good afternoon, everyone. Enova released results for the Q3 2024 ended September 30, 2024, this afternoon after the market close. If you did not receive a copy of our earnings press release, you may obtain it from the Investor Relations section of our website at ir.anova.com. With me on today's call are David Fisher, Chief Executive Officer and Steve Cunningham, Chief Financial Officer. This call is being webcast and will be archived on the Investor Relations section

Operator

of our

Speaker 1

website. Before I turn the call over to David, I'd like to note that today's discussion will contain forward looking statements and as such is subject to risks and uncertainties. Actual results may differ materially as a result from various important risk factors, including those discussed in our earnings press release and in our annual report on Form 10 ks, quarterly reports on Forms 10 Q and current reports on Forms 8 ks. Please note that any forward looking statements that are made on this call are based on assumptions as of today, and we undertake no obligation to update these statements as a result of new information or future events. In addition to U.

Speaker 1

S. GAAP reporting, Onova reports certain financial measures that do not conform to generally accepted accounting principles. We believe these non GAAP measures enhance the understanding of our performance. Reconciliations between these GAAP and non GAAP measures are included in the tables found in today's press release. As noted in our earnings release, we have posted supplemental financial information on the IR portion of our website.

Speaker 1

And with that, I'd like to turn the call over to David.

Speaker 2

Thanks, and good afternoon, everyone. I appreciate you joining our call today. I'll begin with an overview of our Q3 results, and then I'll discuss our outlook going forward. After that, I'll turn the call over to Steve Cunningham, our CFO, who will discuss our financial results and outlook in more detail. We're pleased to have produced another strong quarter with record originations and revenue driven by stable credit and solid growth across the portfolio.

Speaker 2

Our experienced team, world class machine learning algorithms and technology and diversified product offerings have enabled us to maintain strong performance and swiftly adapt to changing macroeconomic conditions. As a result, we again generated annual growth above 25% in revenue, originations, adjusted EBITDA and adjusted EPS in the quarter. In Q3, originations increased 28% year over year and 15% sequentially to $1,600,000,000 Notably, for the first time in our history, we originated over $1,000,000,000 in small business loans, up 33% year over year and 14% sequentially, while consumer originations increased to a record $569,000,000 up 19% year over year and 16% sequentially. As a result, our combined loan and finance receivables increased 23% year over year to a record $3,800,000,000 Small Business Products represented 62% of the portfolio and consumer was 38%. We generated revenue of $690,000,000 in the quarter, an increase of 25% year over year and 10% sequentially.

Speaker 2

Our profitability metrics grew even faster, capitalizing on our strong operating leverage and diligent credit management and cost efficiency. Adjusted EBITDA increased 42% year over year and adjusted EPS increased 63%. Our growth continues to be driven by our diversified portfolio and efficient marketing. SMB revenue increased 38% year over year and 7% sequentially to a record $269,000,000 while our consumer revenue increased 18% year over year and 12% sequentially to a record $411,000,000 Marketing expense was 20% of our total revenue in line with our expectations and down slightly compared to Q3 of last year. As I mentioned, credit quality remains strong across our entire portfolio and we are encouraged by the solid results we reported this year across the portfolio combined with the stability and strength we have seen in the performance of our customers.

Speaker 2

Total company net charge offs as a percentage of average combined loan and finance receivables decreased to 8.4% in Q3 compared

Speaker 3

to 9.4% in

Speaker 2

the Q3 of last year. To 9.4% in Q3 of last year. We've built a long track record of generating strong growth with consistent credit across varying economic conditions and we believe the current macroeconomic environment is conducive for us to continue generating these results. While commentators continue to offer differing opinions on the health of the macroeconomic environment, Our data demonstrates that both our consumer and small business customers are performing well. From a monetary policy perspective, the Fed now seems committed to lowering rates over the next couple of years.

Speaker 2

And as Steve will discuss, this creates a significant tailwind for further net income and EPS growth. As we've discussed previously, demand and credit in our consumer business are driven largely by jobs and wage growth. The latest jobs report once again demonstrated that the labor market remains strong, driven by the largest monthly increase in employment in 12 months combined with increasing wages. Further, the strength in the labor market is concentrated in the same demographic as our target customers. As you know, we focus on customers who are underserved by mainstream financial institutions that view them as too risky and too difficult to underwrite.

Speaker 2

While our experience and superior analytics have enabled us to excel in this segment of the market and we have demonstrated that these customers can be very predictable with higher yields relative to prime customers, providing more margin for fluctuations in credit performance. On the SMB side, as I mentioned, we had a Q1 of over $1,000,000,000 in originations. The main drivers of this growth are consumer spending and confidence from small business owners in this current economy. In conjunction with Ocuroless, we recently released the 3rd iteration of our small business cash flow trend report, which offers key insights into small business cash flow trends, inflation challenges and growth opportunities. In line with previous findings, our research shows that small businesses feel increasingly optimistic over the next 12 months as they successfully navigate challenges like inflation and cash flow management.

Speaker 2

The survey also found that small businesses are becoming less reliant on traditional financial services such as banks as nearly 75% of small businesses sought out alternative lenders as their primary funding option. And supporting our own research, the National Federation of Independent Businesses announced that its Small Business Optimism Index climbed 1.91.5 in September, the highest level in almost a year. Before closing, I would like to take a moment to discuss our progress in unlocking shareholder value. For the past couple of years, we have emphasized the disconnect between our valuation and our strong and consistent results, solid balance sheet and business fundamentals. Reflecting our continued strong results, we are pleased to have seen our valuation increase this year, better reflecting the strengths of our business.

Speaker 2

That being said, we are producing over 25% year over year growth across all key financial metrics. Yet our PE ratio on 2025 estimates is only 8.2 times, resulting in a PEG ratio of only 0.4 as of the end of Q3. As Steve will discuss, in the Q4, which we're almost a third of the way through, we expect to again generate year over year growth in originations, revenue and EPS in excess of 20%. Given this disconnect, we remain committed to opportunistic stock buybacks, their primary vehicle to unlock shareholder value. And we are very well positioned to do so.

Speaker 2

We've built a solid balance sheet as evidenced by the nearly $1,200,000,000 in liquidity at the end of Q3. Additionally, we extended the maturities on our senior debt from 2025 to 2029 through our recent issuance of $500,000,000 of senior unsecured notes. These actions easily support the new $300,000,000 share repurchase program we announced in August, while also providing ample capital from growth and originations. Overall, we are pleased to have delivered another strong quarter with solid results across our business. We are confident in our ability to continue to generate meaningful growth supported by stable credit and significant operating leverage both this year and beyond.

Speaker 2

Our diversified product offerings, world class machine learning risk management algorithms and nimble online only model continue to meet our customers' needs. And both internal and external data demonstrate that our customers remain on solid footing. That being said, we are mindful that the macroeconomic environment can change and so we're staying committed to a balanced approach to growing our business while managing risk. As we have discussed, this balanced approach is grounded in our extremely sophisticated unit economics framework. And so while we could certainly be growing faster given our strong competitive position and stable credit, We believe we are positioned well for long term success.

Speaker 2

With that, I'd like to turn the call over to Steve, who will discuss our financial results and outlook in more detail. And following Steve's remarks, we'll be happy to answer any questions you may have. Steve?

Speaker 4

Thank you, David, and good afternoon, everyone. Our financial performance this quarter reflects the solid footing of our consumer and small business customers and the powerful combination of our diversified product offerings, scalable operating model, world class risk management capabilities and balance sheet flexibility. The result is our continued ability to deliver strong top and bottom line results that are in line or better than our expectations. Turning to our Q3 results, total company revenue of $690,000,000 increased 25% from the Q3 of 2023, as total company combined loan and finance receivables on an amortized basis increased 23% from the end of the Q3 of last year to $3,800,000,000 at September 30. Total company originations during the Q3 rose 28% from the Q3 of 2023 to just over $1,600,000,000 Revenue from small business lending increased 38% from the Q3 of 2023 to $269,000,000 as small business receivables on an amortized basis ended the quarter at $2,400,000,000 or 27% higher than the end of the Q3 of last year.

Speaker 4

Small business originations rose 33% year over year and as David noted exceeded $1,000,000,000 in a quarter for the first time in company history. Revenue from our consumer businesses increased 18% from the Q3 of 2023 to $411,000,000 as consumer receivables on an amortized basis ended the 3rd quarter at $1,400,000,000 or 18% higher than the end of the Q3 of 2023. Consumer originations grew 19% from the Q3 of 2023 to $569,000,000 For the Q4, we expect total company revenue to increase around 5% sequentially, resulting in year over year growth in 4th quarter consolidated revenue in excess of 20%. This expectation will depend upon the level, timing and mix of originations growth during the quarter. Now turning to credit, which is the most significant driver of net revenue and portfolio fair value.

Speaker 4

As a reminder, consumer credit losses typically follow the sequential pattern of portfolio growth through the year, peaking in the Q4 and reaching their lowest point during the Q2. The consolidated net revenue margin of 58% for the Q3 was at the upper end of our expectations and reflects strong credit trends. Credit metrics in the Q3 reflected our typical consumer seasonality and solid small business performance while improving from a year ago. The total company ratio of net charge offs as a percentage of average combined loan and finance receivables increased sequentially to 8.4% from 7.7% last quarter, but declined from 9.4% during the Q3 of 2023, as the Q3 net charge off ratios for both the small business and consumer portfolios were lower compared to a year ago. As discussed on our Q1 call, we identified opportunities within our SMB business that we believe would support continued strong growth with improved unit economics.

Speaker 4

Continue to see the benefits of this strategy in the Q3 as small business originations growth was strong, small business revenue yield continue to move higher sequentially and the small business quarterly net charge off ratio remained on the low end of our expected range. Expectations for our future credit performance remain stable as the consolidated consumer and small business fair value premiums were all largely unchanged from last quarter. Looking ahead, the aforementioned typical consumer credit seasonality and stable small business credit performance during the Q4 should result in a total company net revenue margin for the Q4 of 2024 in the range of 55% to 58%. This expectation will depend upon portfolio payment performance and the level of timing and mix of originations growth during the Q4. Now turning to expenses.

Speaker 4

Total operating expenses for the Q3, including marketing, were 34% of revenue compared to 37% of revenue in the Q3 of 2023. As we continue to see the benefits of our efficient marketing activities, the leverage inherent in our online only model and thoughtful expense management. 3rd quarter marketing spend remained efficient and was in line with our expectations. Marketing costs increased to $141,000,000 or 20 percent of revenue compared to $117,000,000 or 21% of revenue in the Q3 of 2023. We expect marketing expenses will continue to be around 20% of revenue for the Q4, but will depend upon the growth and mix of originations.

Speaker 4

Operations and technology expenses for the Q3 increased to $57,000,000 or 8 percent of revenue compared to $52,000,000 or 9% of revenue in the Q3 of 2023, driven by growth in receivables and originations over the past year. Given the significant variable component of this expense category, sequential increases in O and T costs should be expected in an environment where originations and receivables are growing, should range between 8% 9% of total revenue. Our fixed costs continue to reflect our focus on operating efficiency and thoughtful expense management. General and administrative expenses for the Q3 increased to $39,000,000 or 6% of revenue from $38,000,000 or 7 percent of revenue in the Q3 of 2023. While there may be slight variations from quarter to quarter, we expect G and A expenses in the near term will be around 6% of total revenue.

Speaker 4

Our balance sheet and liquidity position remains strong and give us the financial flexibility to successfully navigate a range of operating environments, while delivering on our commitment to drive long term shareholder value through both continued investments in our business and share repurchases. We ended the quarter with $1,200,000,000 of liquidity, including $262,000,000 of cash and marketable securities and $925,000,000 of available capacity on debt facilities. Our stable financial and credit performance has allowed us to consistently access funding from a diversified group of lenders and fixed income investors. Since our last earnings call, we completed 5 financing transactions totaling $2,100,000,000 including $1,200,000,000 of new proceeds with efficient and cost effective terms. Issuances included an unsecured senior note, small business term securitization, the renewal and size of a warehouse secured by small business receivables, the renewal and up size of a warehouse secured by consumer installment receivables and the up size of our secured corporate revolver.

Speaker 4

During the Q3, we acquired 309,000 shares at a cost of $23,000,000 and we started the Q4 with share repurchase capacity of approximately $68,000,000 available under our senior note covenants. Our cost of funds for the Q3 was 9.6 percent or 24 basis points higher than the 2nd quarter. With the Federal Reserve's recent 50 basis point reduction in the Fed funds rate and expectations for continued reductions over the near term, we expect that our quarterly cost of funds is likely peaked. Additionally, the impact of expected lower market rates in the future could create longer term tailwinds for Innovus profitability. Given the mix of our fixed and floating rate debt, we expect every 25 basis point reduction in sulfur to result in a benefit to adjusted EPS of approximately $0.10 over the 12 months following a rate reduction.

Speaker 4

During the quarter, we recorded a one time non cash and non operational impairment charge of $17,000,000 related to the write off of our interest in the company to which during 2021, we contributed the net assets of Andac's legacy platform as a service business, formerly known as ODX. Finally, we continue to deliver solid profitability this quarter. Adjusted EBITDA, a non GAAP measure increased 42% from a year ago to $172,000,000 and adjusted EPS, a non GAAP measure increased 63% from a year ago to $2.45 per diluted share. To wrap up, let me summarize our near term expectations. For the Q4 of 2024, we would expect consolidated revenue to increase around 5% sequentially or more than 20% compared to the Q4 of 2023 with a net revenue margin between 55% 58%.

Speaker 4

Additionally, we expect marketing and G and A expenses to be around 20 percent 6% of revenue respectively, with O and T costs of 8% to 9% of revenue. These expectations should result in an increase in adjusted EPS of 25% or more compared to the Q4 of 2023. Our expectations for the remainder of this year will depend upon the macroeconomic environment and the resulting impact on demand, customer payment rates and the level of timing and mix of originations growth. We remain confident in our ability to generate meaningful financial results for the remainder of 2024 and beyond as we leverage our diversified product offerings, world class machine learning risk management algorithms and nimble online only model to continue to meet customer needs while creating significant value for our shareholders. In addition, our solid balance sheet should provide tailwinds to our future profitability in a falling rate environment, while enabling our ability to efficiently

Speaker 5

fund growth and supporting our ability to return significant capital to shareholders through

Speaker 4

share repurchases. And with that, we'd be happy to take your questions. Operator? We will now begin the question and answer

Operator

We will now begin the question and answer Your first question comes from Moshi Orenbuch.

Speaker 5

Great. Thanks. I guess, Steve, can you talk a little bit about how you're thinking about you mentioned that you can see this as kind of continuing into 2025 like this strong environment for originations on both sides of the business? And how do you think about like what makes a change for either better or worse? Are there any competitive changes or just talk about that a little bit?

Speaker 4

Yes, sure. We didn't really address 2025 specifically in our commentary, but I think our view is we have some momentum as we're obviously with our Q4 guide, we expect some of that momentum to continue. And barring a change in the operating environment, as you mentioned, or something materially changing, we should be able to continue our momentum into 2025, but we'll obviously talk a bit more about that on our next call. But we will be watching for as David has mentioned in the past, we're not growing as quickly as we could. We're being very thoughtful.

Speaker 4

That gives us a lot of flexibility to be able to navigate changes to either a macro environment or a more competitive environment. But we also feel very good about our competitive position as we've talked about now for many quarters, given our diversified product set, online only scale in our balance sheet. So we feel today we definitely have some momentum, but we'll give more color here in a few months.

Speaker 5

Got it. And just a follow-up on the consumer kind of credit front. The charge offs in the quarter you had noted were kind of down on a year on year basis, but delinquencies were up and the charge offs being down obviously kind of a good sign as many other lenders are seeing it tough for consumers to kind of get out of delinquency once they're in it. Just talk a little bit about how this quarter's delinquency rates going to be reflected as you go forward and what it says about the portfolio performance?

Speaker 4

Yes, sure. So the consumer delinquency rate typically increases sequentially. If you go back and look over time between Q2 and Q3, which it did this quarter as well. Year over year, the comparison is a little different because we have had slight mix shift. We had some strong demand from our CashNet business with great unit economics that over the past couple of quarters, we met that demand, which allowed that business to grow a little bit faster than net credit.

Speaker 4

In that mix shift, we'll create a little bit of a dynamic in the delinquency ratio. But I will tell you, even though we don't disclose our 1 plus delinquency rate, the 1 plus rate for consumer actually was down year over year. So it's really reflecting that mix shift. And additional context, the fair value premium is also reflecting the fact that the unit economics framework for us, the risk adjusted cash flows are incorporating that additional risk from the mix shift that I just mentioned with the flat fair value premium quarter over quarter.

Speaker 5

Got it. Thanks very much.

Speaker 6

You bet.

Operator

Your next question comes from David Scharf with Citizens JMP.

Speaker 3

Great. Good afternoon. Thanks for taking my questions. I wanted to dig in a little more just in terms of the product mix. And specifically, I think, Steve and Dave you both had commented you're not growing as fast as you could and not to diminish the impressive growth in consumer.

Speaker 3

SMB is growing materially faster recently and I'm wondering A, if you could just provide a little more color on maybe what differences you're seeing that is driving such a stronger growth in origination volumes among small businesses versus consumer? And B, circling back to your comment about not growing as fast as you could, is that applicable to both products? Or is that mostly a commentary about the consumer?

Speaker 2

Yes, David, good questions. I think, look, it's mostly a factor of it's just a less mature product. Like in the consumer space, we have some very, very mature products that aren't growing as fast. We have some less mature products that are among our fastest growing products on the consumer side. But that's balanced out with some products that have been around for a very, very long time.

Speaker 2

And so that kind of that levels off the growth rate a little bit on the consumer side. We're a small business. It's just much newer space overall and certainly much newer for us. And we've really only been aggressive in that space since kind of 2021. So I think that explains a little bit of the difference in growth rates.

Speaker 2

We're not seeing anything materially different like in the overall markets. And I think the competitive environment is pretty weak on both sides. In terms of cookie growing faster, that's definitely applicable to both consumer and small business. And as you know from our conversations in the past, what that means is we just increase our internal unit economic targets, which are focused on ROEs and just make our businesses try to achieve higher targets than maybe is necessary kind of from a purely academic standpoint in terms of kind of the balance sheet of the business. So but we just think that's the right risk reward balance today, given that we are growing very quickly in a balance sheet intensive business.

Speaker 2

And as we said, we don't think higher growth rates are priced into the stock in any way. So we're comfortable taking a little bit more cushion in those unit economic targets and growing kind of slower than we could have otherwise, albeit still at very, very attractive growth rates.

Speaker 3

Got it. No, that's great color. And the extent you only get rewarded for growing so fast, there's no need to push the envelope, I guess. Maybe just one quick follow-up on funding. Steve, I appreciate the sensitivity analysis on the 25 bps change in sulfur.

Speaker 3

You had also, I believe, the last quarter or so provided some outlook about how to think about funding costs in the context of percent of revenue. I think last time it was 10.5% to 11%. Is that changing much in your mind? What should be kind of the base case we look at?

Speaker 4

Yes. I mean, I think for the Q4, that range is probably still applicable, but you'll start to see us move again depending on how much we grow, but we should be moving towards the lower end of that range as you move through the quarter. And as we get through the rest of the year, I'll provide a more wholesome view on next year depending on where we are with the outlook for rates at that time.

Speaker 3

Great. Thanks so much.

Speaker 4

You bet.

Operator

Your next question comes from John Hecht with Jefferies.

Speaker 7

Afternoon, guys. Congratulations on another great quarter.

Speaker 2

Thank you.

Speaker 7

Most of my questions have been asked and answered. I mean, I guess one of them is that, David, you did cite, generally speaking, just weaker competition. And I think you've been in that environment where your guys your strength have allowed you to have

Speaker 6

like you describe it

Speaker 7

as a weaker market, but maybe it's just a market that you're stronger in. But I'm wondering what like what would your outlook be for that? Is there an environment where you think competition would come back? If it would, which product or segment would it be in? Or do you feel more that you just you're building more sustainable advantages over time?

Speaker 2

Yes. I think that is a good clarification. We it's not like we have a lot of competitors and we're just not seeing them being particularly aggressive. We don't have a lot of strong competitors, period. And this isn't an industry where they can just kind of pop out of the woodwork, just kind of start a new business today and be a strong competitor 3 or 6 months down the road.

Speaker 2

These are businesses that obviously have tremendous start up costs, takes lots of time to build underwriting models and get them dialed in. Businesses generate tremendous losses in their 1st 5 to 10 years in business in these space. So you get a long runway of seeing new competitors kind of trying to come into the space and there's just not a lot right now in either small business or the consumer side. That doesn't mean there aren't any. We're not delusional by any fact.

Speaker 2

We have a huge program to track what's going of competition on both sides of both businesses. But we're not seeing anything new and we have very good market share relative to the competitors that are out there and certainly no sign of any meaningful changes on the competitive front.

Speaker 7

Okay. That's super helpful. And then I guess as a related follow-up, just given that backdrop, with respect to the characteristics of the origination, obviously, we know the mix of SMB versus consumer, but is there anything that is worth calling out with respect to new versus recurring mix changes or the characteristics of the SMB categories or is it pretty consistent?

Speaker 4

No, John, it's been pretty consistent. We haven't seen a material change in our new versus returning customers across either of the portfolios.

Speaker 7

All right. Thank you guys very much.

Speaker 4

Thanks. Thanks.

Operator

Your next question comes from John Rowan with Janney.

Speaker 8

Good afternoon, guys.

Speaker 4

Hey, John. Sorry if

Speaker 8

this is asked already, but was there a reason why CSO loan balances went up so sharply sequentially?

Speaker 4

I mean those tend to be very specific to geographic regions. So you will time to time see where we might have demand or opportunities that line up with that unit economics framework that you will see that occur, but it usually is not something that persists for a long period of time. It's usually pretty level.

Speaker 8

Okay. And then I just want to make sure I'm hearing you guys correctly. We're talking about obviously stable credit, but obviously the charge off rate in consumer was up 8.7% versus 7.8% last year. Can you just talk to that and whether or not that has anything to do with the increase in the CSO loan balances? Just kind of talk me through that increase in the charge offs specifically in the consumer book?

Speaker 4

Yes. I think that number you're referencing, John, is 30 plus delinquency, not charge offs.

Speaker 8

Sorry. Charge offs

Speaker 4

are down year over year. So as I mentioned just a few minutes ago, that's largely related to mix. I'd mentioned that we had seen some opportunities over the past couple of quarters with cash net versus net credit. And given the credit profile of that business, you would see delinquencies at a higher rate. So there's a little bit of mix shift going on there.

Speaker 4

CSO is largely in cash net. So yes, that could contribute to it. But as I mentioned, the fair value premiums are relatively flat quarter over quarter, which again is the view of discounted risk adjusted cash flow in consumer. So it's tracking with our unit economics and our 1 plus delinquency for consumer was actually down year over year.

Speaker 6

Okay. All

Speaker 8

right. Thank you.

Speaker 6

You bet.

Operator

Your next question comes from Vincent Caintic with BTIG.

Speaker 6

Hi, good afternoon. Thanks for taking my question. First for David and as kind of a follow-up on David Sharp's question about the originations. The growth rate, especially sequentially, is pretty impressive after what was also a strong second quarter. So I'm just trying to maybe parse out maybe what could be driving this because it seems like maybe the macro is okay, the SMB consumer is feeling a bit more confident.

Speaker 6

And then conversely, your underwriting still seems pretty tight. So just wondering if maybe as you're thinking about Q4 and beyond, do you expect this kind of strong growth and acceleration to continue? Does anything need to change or say particularly positive in order to achieve that level of growth? Thank you.

Speaker 2

Yes. So if you look at sequentially, certainly, I think it's a combination of 2 factors. 1 is seasonality. We always see good growth in Q3 versus Q2. But the second is that conducive macroeconomic environment.

Speaker 2

I think it's an environment where customers consumers and small businesses are comfortable borrowing money if they need to, but have good enough finances that they can pay it back, which makes it easy for us to lend to them. So I think it's really a combination of those two factors. And as we look at Q4, I think Steve guided to slightly lower year over year origination growth rates in Q4, but still north of 20%, so still very, very strong. And as we're sitting here almost a third of the way through the quarter, we feel very kind of very good about continuing those 20 plus percent growth rates.

Speaker 6

Okay, great. That's super helpful. And then for Steve, you always appreciate the detailed Q4 guidance. I guess, as we're thinking medium term and with the growth rates you're achieving in the originations in revenue, just kind of wondering, as you're thinking about the expenses, how operationally efficient can the business be? So I'm sort of thinking that as you're growing your fixed expenses, so the EBS should be growing even faster.

Speaker 6

Is there anything you can do to maybe help us understand how much operating leverage you have in the business? Thank you.

Speaker 2

Yes. Well, I think if

Speaker 4

you look over the past couple of years, you've seen that operating leverage in action. Obviously, marketing is entirely variable. Our O and T costs, about 70% of those costs are variable. So there is some operating leverage as you continue to grow, but it's much more slow compared to our general and administrative expenses, which are all fixed. So you've seen the G and A expenses as a percent of revenue come down a fair amount over the past couple of years.

Speaker 4

There's no reason to think that we wouldn't continue to see some operating leverage in those expense categories as we move through time and continue to grow. That's really just how our expense philosophy works. We do spend money. Those expenses do grow year over year, but they grow at a much slower rate relative to revenue and that's how we run the business. So you should expect there could be some opportunities as we move through time from here as well.

Speaker 6

Okay, great. Thanks very much.

Operator

Thank you. That does conclude our question and answer session and our conference for today. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.

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