Keurig Dr Pepper Q3 2024 Earnings Call Transcript

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Operator

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to Keurig Doctor Pepper's Earnings Call for the Q3 of 2024. This conference call is being recorded and there will be a question and answer session at the end of the call. I would now like to introduce Keurig Doctor Pepper's Head of Investor Relations, Jane Galfand. Ms.

Operator

Galfand, you may please begin.

Jane Gelfand
Jane Gelfand
Vice President of Investor Relations & Strategic Initiatives at Keurig Dr Pepper

Thank you, and hello, everyone. Earlier this morning, we issued 2 separate press releases announcing Q3 results and our pending transaction with Ghost. We will discuss both topics during this conference call and in the accompanying slide presentation, which can be tracked in real time on the live webcast. Before we get started, I'd like to remind you that our remarks will include forward looking statements, which reflect KDP's judgment, assumptions and analysis only as of today. Our actual results may differ materially from current expectations based on a number of factors affecting KDP's business.

Jane Gelfand
Jane Gelfand
Vice President of Investor Relations & Strategic Initiatives at Keurig Dr Pepper

Except as required by law, we do not undertake any obligation to update any forward looking statements discussed today. For more information, please refer to our earnings release and the risk factors discussed in our most recent Forms 10 ks and 10 Q filed with the SEC. Consistent with previous quarters, we will be discussing our Q3 performance on a non GAAP adjusted basis, which reflects constant currency growth rates and excludes items affecting comparability. Definitions and reconciliations to the most directly comparable GAAP metrics are included in our earnings materials. Here with us today to discuss our results are Keurig Doctor Pepper's Chief Executive Officer, Tim Coefer and Chief Financial Officer and President, International, Sudhanshu Priyadarshi.

Jane Gelfand
Jane Gelfand
Vice President of Investor Relations & Strategic Initiatives at Keurig Dr Pepper

I'll now turn it over to Tim.

Tim Cofer
Tim Cofer
CEO at Keurig Dr Pepper

Thanks, Jane, and good morning, everyone. Our solid 2024 year to date performance demonstrates KDP's resiliency and flexibility. This morning, we reaffirmed our full year outlook despite an uneven operating environment and we're targeting a strong finish to the year in Q4. Simultaneously, we are making good progress against our long term strategy laying the groundwork for multi year success. Now before covering our quarterly results, I want to highlight the just announced Ghost deal as yet another example of how we are enhancing our portfolio while exercising capital discipline.

Tim Cofer
Tim Cofer
CEO at Keurig Dr Pepper

We've reached an agreement to purchase a majority stake in Ghost this year to be followed by the acquisition of the remainder of the business in the first half of twenty twenty eight. This transaction strengthens our position in the attractive energy drink category and accelerates our portfolio evolution towards consumer preferred and growth accretive spaces. Ghost is young, versatile and founder led with approximately $500,000,000 portfolio anchored by its leading energy drink, while also spanning supplements and an emerging presence in other LRB categories. The brand more than quadrupled in size over the last 3 years and remains one of the fastest growing in the energy category, thanks to its unique brand identity, distinctive flavors and packaging, cross occasion appeal and strong consumer engagement, including on premise. Ghost will complement KDP's existing energy portfolio and substantially enhance our presence in the category.

Tim Cofer
Tim Cofer
CEO at Keurig Dr Pepper

We see significant potential to further scale Ghost in collaboration with its founders, Dan Lorenzo and Ryan Hughes, who will continue to lead the brand as part of KDP's U. S. Refreshment Beverages unit. I've been very impressed with Dan and Ryan and their tremendous success to date. More importantly, I share their vision for strong growth in the years to come.

Tim Cofer
Tim Cofer
CEO at Keurig Dr Pepper

Together, we plan to take Ghost to new heights as we build out KDP's platform based approach to the energy category. Now at $23,000,000,000 in size, energy remains one of the fastest growing scaled categories in beverages and enjoys multiple structural growth characteristics. These beverages satisfy a near universal consumer need for energy and alertness, which is increasingly relevant in a world with significant demands on our time and attention. They appeal to consumers across all ages and demographics, including over indexing to Gen Zennials. There is significant headroom for household penetration to grow versus other leading beverage categories and the category is still in the development stage of price pack architecture and channel diversity.

Tim Cofer
Tim Cofer
CEO at Keurig Dr Pepper

All of these elements translate to a large total addressable market that we believe the category will grow into and on which KDP is well positioned to capitalize. As energy drink consumption becomes more prevalent, the category is evolving to serve distinct consumer needs states and occasions. This landscape lends itself nicely to a portfolio approach, which successfully employed in premium water to become the number 2 share player. We're now using a similar playbook in energy, having accelerated our push into the category over the last 24 months with C4, Ghost and Black Rifle Energy. In addition to today's Ghost announcement, we just signed a distribution agreement with NutriBolt for Bloom ready to drink energy.

Tim Cofer
Tim Cofer
CEO at Keurig Dr Pepper

Bloom is a highly promising emerging and distinctive beverage brand with a female oriented SKU. Together, each of these brands can work in complementary ways to address consumer needs while driving greater scale in the category and across our DSD infrastructure. Beyond its strategic merits, the Ghost transaction is another good example of how we approach efficient capital deployment. Through an elegant deal structure, we are capturing the growth opportunity and paving the way for compelling financial returns, while retaining manageable balance sheet leverage and aligning long term incentives. Our chosen structure retains Ghost's leadership team, reinforcing a unique element of KDP's white space expansion strategy, our Founder Network.

Tim Cofer
Tim Cofer
CEO at Keurig Dr Pepper

We work to keep visionary entrepreneurs at the helm of the brands they created, while adding substantial scale and resources from KDP. In energy drinks, we've seen the value of this arrangement firsthand through our close relationship with NutriBullet's innovative leader, Doss Cunningham. With alignment and support from energy leaders like Doss, Dan and Ryan of Ghost and others, we are building a formidable energy platform that will drive win win outcomes for all involved. Let's now move to our Q3 results. Constant currency net sales grew 3.1%.

Tim Cofer
Tim Cofer
CEO at Keurig Dr Pepper

We made solid progress on volume mix with 3.5% growth in Q3. As anticipated, U. S. Refreshment beverages momentum strengthened considerably. U.

Tim Cofer
Tim Cofer
CEO at Keurig Dr Pepper

S. Coffee volume mix grew nicely and international trends remained healthy. Total KDP net price was a source of modest pressure in Q3. We expect sequential improvement in Q4 and a further step up into 2025 as recently announced pricing actions across meaningful parts of our portfolio, including CSDs and single serve coffee take effect early next year. Our focus on productivity and cost discipline continued to ratchet up in Q3.

Tim Cofer
Tim Cofer
CEO at Keurig Dr Pepper

These elements help to support gross and operating margin expansion. As a result, consolidated operating income grew in the high single digits and EPS grew 6% consistent with our plan. We are focused on near term delivery, while also truly orienting our business towards the long term. Our strategy provides a roadmap for achieving strong and consistent results over a multi year timeframe, And we aim to incrementally advance our strategic pillars each and every quarter. Let me discuss our latest progress.

Tim Cofer
Tim Cofer
CEO at Keurig Dr Pepper

I'll start with consumer obsessed brand building. Our consumer centric scorecards include awareness, household penetration, loyalty and other classic brand led metrics. And yet, how we ultimately measure success comes down to market share growth. In Q3, we gained share across each of our major product verticals, liquid refreshment beverages, K Cup pods and brewers. And in each of our major markets, the United States, Mexico and Canada.

Tim Cofer
Tim Cofer
CEO at Keurig Dr Pepper

We achieved this performance through a combination of exciting innovation and brand activity as well as strong commercial delivery. While our Q3 top line also reflected the impact of the softer consumer environment on certain category growth rates, our market share results are a good indicator that we are effectively stewarding our brands and controlling the controllables. Our second pillar, reshaping our NOW and NEXT portfolio has been a major 2024 priority, primarily through our new ElectroLeat and La Colome partnerships. Both brands continued to transition to our DSD network during the Q3 with a growing financial contribution. We are now able to more directly influence their marketplace performance and accordingly our trends are accelerating with significant opportunity still ahead.

Tim Cofer
Tim Cofer
CEO at Keurig Dr Pepper

Our just announced transaction with Ghost furthers our commitment to evolving towards high growth areas. We will continuously shape our portfolio in the future, which will likely entail both brand additions and targeted pruning. Moving now to route to market. During the Q3, we closed on and integrated our recently acquired assets in Arizona. The transition of coverage to our network went smoothly and was achieved in record time.

Tim Cofer
Tim Cofer
CEO at Keurig Dr Pepper

We've now shifted our focus to ensuring the Arizona operations run as efficiently as possible and leverage the network benefits of being part of KDP. We also continue to opportunistically expand our distribution presence in other regions, including the recent tack on of incremental territories in Tennessee. Our company owned DSD network in Mexico is another focus area given the vital competitive advantage it provides in a market with a sizable traditional trade. During the Q3, we invested in expanding the system's coverage, selling routes and cooler penetration, all of which contributed to our strong relative trends. Turning now to our productivity and overhead discipline work to generate fuel for growth.

Tim Cofer
Tim Cofer
CEO at Keurig Dr Pepper

This is a priority in all environments, but it's particularly critical in the current moment. As such, we delivered strong savings during the Q3 with healthy productivity and the reemergence of SG and A overhead leverage for the first time in many quarters. We are now on track to exceed our cost savings goals for the year, while also carrying a healthy pipeline of productivity and efficiency projects forward into 2025. Finally, our cash generation has strengthened as expected in 2024 and we are dynamically allocating this cash flow to support multiple parallel priorities. Our capital deployment this year has thus far included capital expenditures to support our growth and productivity initiatives, a sizable share buyback near our stock's 52 week low, a 7% dividend increase announced in Q3, which marked our 4th consecutive annual raise, and now our pending acquisition of a 60% interest in Ghost.

Tim Cofer
Tim Cofer
CEO at Keurig Dr Pepper

In other words, we are staying disciplined, being opportunistic when compelling options become available and managing across our capital allocation objectives, including our commitment to a resilient balance sheet. Let me now share some observations on our Q3 segment performance, starting with U. S. Refreshment Beverages. We saw a nice sequential acceleration in revenue growth, which increased at a mid single digit rate in the quarter.

Tim Cofer
Tim Cofer
CEO at Keurig Dr Pepper

Our volume mix momentum built as we completed the distribution transition and significantly ramped display activity for ElectraLETE. We also delivered solid base business trends across our core brands. The consumer environment remains dynamic, which is having varying impacts across our portfolio. For instance, the carbonated soft drinks category is outperforming our expectations. CSDs have accessible price points and are supported by sophisticated revenue growth management capabilities, which make them well positioned to provide options for value seeking consumers.

Tim Cofer
Tim Cofer
CEO at Keurig Dr Pepper

At the same time, we are also winning in the category with a strong innovation and commercial programming slate that is driving healthy share trends. Our CSD performance was led by brand Doctor Pepper, thanks in part to a very successful summertime LTO with Creamy Coconut as well as the continued build out of our 0 Sugar line. We expect the brand's momentum and share gains to sustain supported by a recent launch of the 7th season of our incredibly popular Fansville College Football marketing campaign. Elsewhere in CSD's Canada Dry Fruit Splash, the brand's most significant launch in years remains highly incremental to the franchise and is demonstrating the potential of this great brand. We're also stepping up support behind our iconic 7 UP with a 1st in a decade brand design refresh that debuted in Q3 and a limited time offering Shirley Temple flavor that is just now rolling out and has been a hit on social media.

Tim Cofer
Tim Cofer
CEO at Keurig Dr Pepper

Meanwhile, some still beverage categories remain under pressure, which we see as a reflection of the current consumer softness. This is particularly true for categories with a greater exposure to convenience stores and with higher average price per ounce products like ready to drink teas. In these categories, we must continue engaging consumers with compelling brand activity, while also appropriately emphasizing value at key price points. In other still beverages, we're seeing stronger trends. One example is our $1,000,000,000 warehouse delivered Mott's brand, which has been an investment priority during 2024.

Tim Cofer
Tim Cofer
CEO at Keurig Dr Pepper

During Q3, our back to school campaign, which highlighted fresh, minimally processed apples as a point of differentiation for Mott's performed well, supporting top line growth and share gains for the brand. In total, we're pleased with the performance of the U. S. Refreshment Beverages segment in Q3 with notable progress made in scaling the Electroly partnership and supporting our core portfolio. In U.

Tim Cofer
Tim Cofer
CEO at Keurig Dr Pepper

S. Coffee, we experienced a soft overall quarter. Market share momentum drove solid volume mix, but pricing realization was challenged due to persistent category promotions, which weighed on segment revenue and profitability. We're not satisfied with this outcome and are actively working to improve these trends even in the context of escalating inflation. At the same time, we're planning prudently regarding U.

Tim Cofer
Tim Cofer
CEO at Keurig Dr Pepper

S. Coffee's role in our near term overall enterprise performance. The reality is that at home coffee category consumption remains muted. However, within that, single serve is outperforming. And within that, our brands are as well.

Tim Cofer
Tim Cofer
CEO at Keurig Dr Pepper

But because the category's absolute growth rate is below the long term trend, we are choosing to be judicious. And we're focusing on the elements within our control. Let me dive deeper into 3 such areas that together should result in improving revenue trends for the coffee segment over time. 1st, we have good pod market share momentum. Our 3 pronged strategy focused on affordability, premiumization and cold coffee translated into further meaningful owned and licensed share momentum in the quarter.

Tim Cofer
Tim Cofer
CEO at Keurig Dr Pepper

We saw strength across both Green Mountain and the original Donut Shop, including particular traction and incrementality from our new line of refreshers, which we are building into a distinct single serve platform. At the same time, we are attracting new brands into the Keurig ecosystem, including the recent addition of Black Rifle K Cup pods, which began to scale in our network during Q3. Taken together, our favorable owned and licensed market share trends and new partnerships position us for a stronger set of financial outcomes as the category recovers. 2nd, brewer trends continue to move in the right direction. In Q3, we drove strong double digit growth in brewer shipments.

Tim Cofer
Tim Cofer
CEO at Keurig Dr Pepper

While quarterly trends are inherently lumpy, the coffee maker category has returned to more stable footing and Keurig and Keurig compatible brewers are gaining significant share. This speaks to our ongoing appeal among coffee consuming households and should be supportive of future pod consumption. Looking out to the important holiday season, we're well positioned with excellent retailer and consumer feedback for K Brew and Chill in the early days of our launch and good momentum behind our entry priced models. 3rd, while not yet evident in category trends or our results, we are encouraged by recent category pricing in response to escalating inflation. The competitive environment in the 3rd quarter was notably promotional as in the first half and we do not expect any immediate easing in Q4.

Tim Cofer
Tim Cofer
CEO at Keurig Dr Pepper

However, industry pricing should build over the coming quarters, given recently announced competitor price increases as well as our early 2025 single serve increase. Even with an anticipated elasticity impact and some related volume trade off, we'd expect this to result in a healthier overall revenue trend. All in, though the path ahead will likely come with some quarter to quarter variability, we continue to see traction across our U. S. Coffee segment.

Tim Cofer
Tim Cofer
CEO at Keurig Dr Pepper

As long as the at home coffee category remains soft, we will continue to plan with restraint, all while positioning Keurig and our assortment of brands to win longer term. In other words, we are playing the long game by driving high quality innovation and marketing and attracting new brands into the Keurig ecosystem. Turning now to international. We delivered another quarter of good performance with constant currency net sales growth nearing the high single digits. We drove gains across multiple regions and categories.

Tim Cofer
Tim Cofer
CEO at Keurig Dr Pepper

In Mexico, market share grew in almost every category in which we operate, reflecting productive brand building activity and BSD investments bearing fruit. We often talk about the success of our powerhouse Penafial brand, which maintained its trajectory in Q3, but Squirtz performance was also notable. The brand recently achieved a significant milestone, becoming the number 2 flavored CSD in Mexico and is a great example of another iconic KDP brand with local traction and momentum. Our cold beverages performance in Canada was also robust, led by growth in Canada Dry and Doctor Pepper as well as continued strength in our low and no alcohol portfolio. In international coffee, as in the U.

Tim Cofer
Tim Cofer
CEO at Keurig Dr Pepper

S, our 3 pronged strategy helped to drive market share gains across both brewers and pods. Overall, we feel great about our international momentum and with ongoing investment expect the segment to remain an outsized growth driver for KDP. In closing, we're pleased with our team's strong execution in what remains a dynamic operating environment. We are on track and focused on closing out the year strong, while pushing ahead on key strategic initiatives and setting the stage for healthy, consistent financial performance beyond 2024. And with that, I'll turn the call to Sudhan Choo.

Sudhanshu Priyadarshi
CFO & President of International at Keurig Dr Pepper

Thanks, Tim, and good morning, everyone. We delivered a solid quarter with operational discipline driving strong OI growth and accelerating cash generation. We are on track to a strong finish to 2024, while also making important strategic progress like today's announced transaction with Ghost. The actions we are taking to support base momentum and enhance our portfolio help reinforce visibility to consistent performance in the years ahead. 3rd quarter net sales grew 3.1 percent in constant currency.

Sudhanshu Priyadarshi
CFO & President of International at Keurig Dr Pepper

U. S. Refreshen Beverages top line accelerated, U. S. Coffee posted a soft quarter and international growth remained healthy.

Sudhanshu Priyadarshi
CFO & President of International at Keurig Dr Pepper

I will discuss each segment in more detail shortly. On a consolidated basis, volume mix was the primary sales driver, a strengthening to a 3.5% gain. We grew share across our portfolio and also benefited from a building contribution from new partnerships. Net price realization declined 0.4%. Pricing was positive across most of the business with pressure confined to U.

Sudhanshu Priyadarshi
CFO & President of International at Keurig Dr Pepper

S. Coffee. We expect consolidated pricing to turn positive once again in quarter 4. Gross margin expanded 20 basis points versus prior year. This reflected good productivity delivery and a performance incentive from C4, which contributed approximately 50 basis points of expansion.

Sudhanshu Priyadarshi
CFO & President of International at Keurig Dr Pepper

SG and A also leveraged 80 basis points as the lean overhead discipline we are embedding across the organization is beginning to more meaningfully benefit results. This will remain a focus area going forward. All in, operating margins expanded 110 basis points and operating income grew 7.5%. Inclusive of a net headwind below the line, EPS grew a solid 6% consistent with our plan. Moving to the segments.

Sudhanshu Priyadarshi
CFO & President of International at Keurig Dr Pepper

U. S. Refreshment Beverages net sales grew 5.3%, accelerating from a low single digit rate in quarter 2. Volumemix led the way, up 4%, including a growing contribution from Electrolyte as volume fully transitioned to our DST network. Our base business trends also strengthened led by our CSD portfolio.

Sudhanshu Priyadarshi
CFO & President of International at Keurig Dr Pepper

Pricing contributed 1.3% to the top line, reflecting favorable price realization in CSDs and targeted value investments in parts of the Still Beverages portfolio. We expect segment net sales growth to improve further in quarter 4, reflecting a healthy partnership contribution and base business strength. Segment operating income grew 6.8 percent with 40 basis points of margin expansion. The improvement was driven by our net sales momentum, productivity and the C4 performance incentive. This was partially offset by cost inflation across key inputs.

Sudhanshu Priyadarshi
CFO & President of International at Keurig Dr Pepper

In U. S. Coffee, net revenue and operating income declined 3.6% and 7.2% respectively. Obviously, we are not pleased with these results, but this performance deserves greater context. Despite a still muted coffee category, we drove improving volume mix in the 3rd quarter with 2.7% growth.

Sudhanshu Priyadarshi
CFO & President of International at Keurig Dr Pepper

This was comprised of flattish pods and 14% growth in brewer shipments. We enjoyed good market share momentum across both product lines, thanks to strong innovation and retail execution. This market share trend should sustain in quarter 4 as we continue to benefit from our 3 strategic focus areas of affordability, premiumization and cold coffee. 3rd quarter pricing was soft declining 6.3%. We lapped a challenging year ago pricing comparison and like in the first half, continued to respond to industry promotions, which remained at odds with coffee commodity moves.

Sudhanshu Priyadarshi
CFO & President of International at Keurig Dr Pepper

We do not expect the competitive picture to moderate immediately, but our comparisons get easier starting in quarter 4. In addition, we just announced a price increase due to take effect early in the next year. As is typical, there will likely be an elasticity impact as industry pricing is implemented. As Tim said, we will manage the business for overall revenue dollars, which we expect to reflect the combination of good market share and more favorable pricing. Shifting to the segment operating income decrease in quarter 3.

Sudhanshu Priyadarshi
CFO & President of International at Keurig Dr Pepper

We generated a strong productivity savings, but these were more than offset by the net price decline. Though Q4 operating income is likely to once again be pressured given the return of commodity cost inflation, our team is focused on 2 major levers to improve the trend into next year. Price increases and modulating promotions will be one significant driver and productivity, network optimization and broader cost controls will be the other important enabler. Our discipline across both is getting stronger and we are revving our productivity engines, which gives us optimism looking out to 2025. International constant currency net sales grew 6.5% or 0.4% on a reported basis.

Sudhanshu Priyadarshi
CFO & President of International at Keurig Dr Pepper

Top line growth was balanced with volume mix increasing 3.1% and net price realization adding another 3.4%. Our growth was strong in absolute terms and also came against a tough year ago comparison. During quarter 3, our local execution was exceptional, driving market share gains in our major categories and markets. International top line growth should accelerate in quarter 4 as our market share outperformance sustains and comparisons begin to ease. Beyond this year, we have exciting plans to continue to capture the significant long term growth opportunity we see for this segment.

Sudhanshu Priyadarshi
CFO & President of International at Keurig Dr Pepper

International segment operating income advanced meaningfully in the quarter, growing 16.6% in constant currency. The strong bottom end result was driven by net pricing and productivity. This more than offset continued inflationary pressures and helped fund incremental marketing. Moving to the balance sheet, cash flow and capital allocation. In the Q3, we generated more than $500,000,000 in free cash flow.

Sudhanshu Priyadarshi
CFO & President of International at Keurig Dr Pepper

Consistent with our expectations, free cash flow dollars and conversion are improving. We remain on track for a meaningful step up in full year cash flow compared to prior year. The accelerating cash flow profile is supporting our ability to advance multiple capital priorities. Ghost will enhance our presence in an attractive white space category. By utilizing a thoughtful deal structure, we are setting up to deliver compelling multi year financial returns.

Sudhanshu Priyadarshi
CFO & President of International at Keurig Dr Pepper

We are doing so while aligning incentives and ensuring our balance sheet remains resilient post the transaction. In quarter 3, we also announced a 7% dividend increase, marking KDP's 4th consecutive year of dividend growth and underscoring our commitment to direct shareholder returns. Turning now to our 2024 guidance. On a constant currency basis, we continue to expect mid single digit net sales and high single digit EPS growth. Our full year 2024 outlook also embeds the following below the line assumptions.

Sudhanshu Priyadarshi
CFO & President of International at Keurig Dr Pepper

Interest expense in a range of $615,000,000 to $625,000,000 an effective tax rate in a 22% to 23% range and approximately 1,370,000,000 diluted weighted average shares outstanding. When it comes to quarter 4, we are focused on delivering a strong top line result driven by solid base momentum, including improved net price realization and a continued healthy contribution from recent partnerships. So revenue growth is expected to accelerate and our productivity bias will remain strong. Our margin progress is likely to pause this quarter. This is because inflation is slated to become a bigger factor in quarter 4, while the benefits of just announced pricing do not kick in until early 2025.

Sudhanshu Priyadarshi
CFO & President of International at Keurig Dr Pepper

We also expect a modest FX translation headwind to both top and bottom line. In closing, we are pleased with our overall performance in quarter 3. In an uneven operating environment, we are focused on executing our plans over the balance of the year, emphasizing Q4 delivery, advancing our strategic pillars and actively planning for another year of consistent performance in 2025. I will now pass on to Tim to wrap with some brief remarks about next year.

Tim Cofer
Tim Cofer
CEO at Keurig Dr Pepper

Thanks, Sudanshu. Before we move to Q and A, I want to leave you with a few closing thoughts. 1st and foremost, we are laser focused on finishing 2024 on a strong note. At the same time, similar to many of you, our internal attention is increasingly shifting to 2025. While it's premature to provide an exact outlook, I can share a few preliminary thoughts.

Tim Cofer
Tim Cofer
CEO at Keurig Dr Pepper

As we build our 2025 plan, we see considerable opportunity and also some risk. On the one hand, the operating environment remains subdued with no immediate signs of relief for stretched consumers. Pockets of escalating inflationary pressure are necessitating industry pricing, but because consumer health is varied, the elasticity impact is uncertain. On the other hand, our strategic progress in 2024 will provide long tailed benefits in 2025. We have strong innovation and commercial plans across our brands, the benefit of continued portfolio evolution and expanded route to market capabilities and greater productivity and cost discipline taking hold across the company.

Tim Cofer
Tim Cofer
CEO at Keurig Dr Pepper

We will also have added top line flexibility from Ghost, which will enable us to plan judiciously in the case of coffee and to push ahead on other portfolio optimization opportunities, all while delivering consistently. Put another way, as we see it today, the various puts and takes into 2025 appear fairly balanced. Together, we expect them to support another year of performance within our long term algorithm. We'll continue to monitor the environment and refine our assumptions and we'll share official 2025 guidance during our next earnings cycle. Thank you for the time and we're now happy to take your questions.

Operator

We will now begin the question and answer session. The first question today comes from Kamil Gajrawala with Jefferies. Please go ahead.

Kaumil Gajrawala
Kaumil Gajrawala
Managing Director at Jefferies Financial Group

Hi, guys. Good morning and congrats. Can we maybe talk more about how the portfolio works together in Energy and maybe specifically C4 and Ghost, but also with Black Rifle and so many other things that you've been doing? Just how's the whole mentor work? Is there any concern of the blurring of lines between some of these categories?

Tim Cofer
Tim Cofer
CEO at Keurig Dr Pepper

Yes. Good morning, Camille. I can certainly speak to that. As you look at energy, we continue to believe energy is one of the most attractive categories within total LRB, large, consistently fastest growing over the last many years. I think what we're starting to see is as that category matures, it's evolving to serve distinct consumer needs states and occasions.

Tim Cofer
Tim Cofer
CEO at Keurig Dr Pepper

And we believe that that landscape lends itself well to a portfolio approach. And that's what we're pursuing with today's announcement is a collection of brands that work in complementary ways to address different consumer needs and different occasions, while obviously generating scale that will benefit our DSD system. So if you think about it, step back just 2 years ago, KDP basically had very little, if any, presence in the energy category. As a result of today's announcement, primarily around Ghost, but also around Bloom, we now have a portfolio of 4 to 5 material brands in the category that will allow us to establish a multifaceted energy platform. Very quickly on each one to your question.

Tim Cofer
Tim Cofer
CEO at Keurig Dr Pepper

As you look at C4, Doss Cunningham has done a great job of establishing a strong performance based positioning with products that really provide functional efficacy targeted largely at gym and fitness occasions and everyday energy. It's also from a consumer standpoint tends to be more male and skewing a little bit millennial. Then you get to Ghost. Ghost has a more lifestyle positioning, bold flavor forward products, popular with gamers, social settings and increasingly a business that lends itself to on premise, including occasions like music festivals. Also a slightly more balanced male female split, a little bit more Gen Z and a real growing authority in 0 Sugar.

Tim Cofer
Tim Cofer
CEO at Keurig Dr Pepper

In fact, recent data would suggest 6 of the top 30 SKUs in 0 Sugar are from Ghost. Then you get to Black Rifle, our recently announced partnership with Black Rifle. This brand will serve consumers seeking more mainstream energy products as well as those looking for coffee energy hybrids and obviously the chance to leverage that strong coffee brand with that target. And then finally the other news of today Bloom, clearly more female oriented early days, but highly promising. And as you heard, we just signed on to distribute that business nationwide after really a very successful launch at Target this summer.

Tim Cofer
Tim Cofer
CEO at Keurig Dr Pepper

So we feel great about this portfolio approach. It's a big step forward for KDP. The energy category is more sophisticated and we think this approach will serve us well in the years to come.

Operator

The next question comes from Brett Cooper with Consumer Edge Research. Please go ahead.

Brett Cooper
Managing Partner at Consumer Edge

Good morning. Another question for you on the Ghost transaction. The brand has been able to get to about a 3 share in beer distribution network, there's some stuff there. So can you talk about what KDP brings to the table that can step change that, maybe offering past examples? And then on the other side of that, can you speak to and maybe quantify the scale benefit it brings to your business in the C store channel and the impact that can have on the total portfolio over the long term?

Brett Cooper
Managing Partner at Consumer Edge

Again, any tangible examples would be helpful. Thanks.

Tim Cofer
Tim Cofer
CEO at Keurig Dr Pepper

Yes, absolutely. I think the best example of what KDP can bring to Ghost and why this today's announcement and acquisition, I think has tremendous logic and benefit is really what we've done in the last couple of years with DOS, NutriBolt and C4. In less than 2 years, we've effectively doubled the business on C4 together. We've increased market share by more than a point. We've essentially doubled TDPs, total distribution points, in particular in C stores and UDS, which as you well know is critical for energy.

Tim Cofer
Tim Cofer
CEO at Keurig Dr Pepper

With the power of KDP DSD, we've almost tripled display activity and we've by orders of magnitude increased cold drink assets. So I think when you're looking for specifics, there's a number of specifics there. We know energy now well and I think we have a proven playbook that we've executed with C4 that we believe we can replicate with Ghost. Beyond that, I think there's other elements that we bring to this partnership that can be powerful and a real win win. Obviously, things like R and D capabilities, innovation capabilities, marketing strength, our commercial teams, our GM skill sets, connections and top to tops obviously with our customers in building out the doors, price pack architecture.

Tim Cofer
Tim Cofer
CEO at Keurig Dr Pepper

And then over time, I think a lot of synergies as well from the procurement side, certainly manufacturing long term, there's quite a few cost synergies that we can think about. So overall, I feel good about our model, the strong momentum that we have with DAS and C4 and our ability to replicate this once again with GHOST. And I think the last part of your question, no doubt this will help drive the total KDP DSD flywheel. When you look at what we've done here over the last few years, say the last 3 years, we've gone at C store in particular from about a 7 share approaching a 10 share across total LRB. C STORE is obviously critical for the energy segment and with the addition of Ghost that will probably add close to 20% additional scale in small format to KDP's footprint.

Tim Cofer
Tim Cofer
CEO at Keurig Dr Pepper

And obviously that drives the entire DSD flywheel and economics.

Operator

The next question comes from dara Mohsenian with Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.

Dara Mohsenian
Dara Mohsenian
Managing Director - US Beverage/Household Products Sectors at Morgan Stanley

Hey, good morning. Tim, you spent a lot of time on your plans in the coffee segment and obviously there's a lot occurring from an industry standpoint here. Just wanted to get your perspective. It does sound like you've taken a step back in terms of what you assume from an industry perspective in coffee. How durable do you think that is as you look out?

Dara Mohsenian
Dara Mohsenian
Managing Director - US Beverage/Household Products Sectors at Morgan Stanley

And then given some of the company initiatives you mentioned that are paying off in terms of your market share picking up, brewers picking up, do you think that you can offset some of those industry headwinds? Are you looking at a pace of organic sales growth that's similar to long term trend as you look out over the next year or 2? And how do you think about that? And then second, just on profitability, once pricing goes into place, do you think you can start to expand year over year margins again in the coffee segment or with some of the cost pressures and industry top line headwinds that's more uncertain? Just how you think about those things going forward would be helpful.

Tim Cofer
Tim Cofer
CEO at Keurig Dr Pepper

Okay. Thanks, Dara. Yes, I'll start on that and I'll kick it over to Sundance to speak to the last part of your question on margin for next year. Dara, I'll start. I've said it before, I want to say it again.

Tim Cofer
Tim Cofer
CEO at Keurig Dr Pepper

We are bullish on coffee's long term prospects. I think the structural tailwinds are intact. We're bullish on this category, ubiquitous regular consumption, the most consumed beverage aside from water on the planet, addressing a critical need for energy and alertness. So we're bullish long term. No doubt at home coffee category performance has been sluggish and it is taking longer to recover than we had planned and anticipated.

Tim Cofer
Tim Cofer
CEO at Keurig Dr Pepper

Having said that, what we're doing is focusing on what we can control. And I think the encouraging signs are within at home coffee, which overall is sluggish, the single serve category continues to outperform. And within the single serve category, our brands continue to outperform. So for us and you said it in your question, pardon me, we are planning prudently when it comes to the category recovery. That's inclusive of Q4 in terms of year to go and our affirmation of our guide on the year.

Tim Cofer
Tim Cofer
CEO at Keurig Dr Pepper

So we're planning prudently in Q4. And as we look ahead to 2025, you heard me give some preliminary commentary on 2025. We're planning prudently, But we're continuing to execute, I think a strategy that we believe is working. And I've talked before, I won't drain it, affordability, premiumization, cold coffee, those three vectors we think are working. We have plans against it.

Tim Cofer
Tim Cofer
CEO at Keurig Dr Pepper

We're encouraged by our results. Evidence of that is our market share gains you're seeing in both pods and brewers and an improving trend in 2024 versus 2023. The new dynamic now is the green coffee increase in cost. And to your question, what that means for us is we intend to manage the business for overall revenue dollars in the near term as you would expect in an inflationary environment. So as I shared in my prepared remarks, we've announced a pricing that will go into effect in early 2025.

Tim Cofer
Tim Cofer
CEO at Keurig Dr Pepper

Obviously, there'll be an elasticity impact as is usually the case, but this should translate to a healthier top line trend, as well as continued good market share as we go into 2025. And then maybe, Sudhanshu, you want to speak to margin?

Sudhanshu Priyadarshi
CFO & President of International at Keurig Dr Pepper

Yes. Thanks, Tim. Hey, Dara. So as you know, we indicated consistently that our plan for U. S.

Sudhanshu Priyadarshi
CFO & President of International at Keurig Dr Pepper

Coffee margin in 2024 was skewed to first half, and that was mainly driven by the timing of green coffee cost impacting our P and L because we hedge 6 to 9 months. And then as you have seen, this cadence has generally played out consistently with our expectation. Our first half margin expanded nicely, and then margin started to come under pressure versus last year in quarter 3, which we expect will continue in quarter 4. Now if you look at 2025, we expect coffee inflation to continue to ramp. We will look to offset with pricing that is going into market early in the year, as just Tim said.

Sudhanshu Priyadarshi
CFO & President of International at Keurig Dr Pepper

And we'll also will have heightened focus on productivity and other expense discipline. As it is typical in inflationary environment, our plan is to manage for operating profit growth and not the margin percentages. However, as inflation normalizes, we continue to see opportunity to rebuild segment margin on a multiyear basis and are focused on delivering that outcome.

Operator

The next question comes from Chris Carey with Wells Fargo Securities. Please go ahead.

Christopher Carey
Christopher Carey
Equity Analyst - Head of Consumer Staples Research at Wells Fargo

Hi, good morning. One quick follow-up on Dara's question just around coffee. Do you have any shipments, timing impacts from storms in the quarter, positive even a bit below consumption? And I would just love your thoughts on that. Obviously, less material over the long term, but perhaps if there's any caveats there, I'd be curious.

Christopher Carey
Christopher Carey
Equity Analyst - Head of Consumer Staples Research at Wells Fargo

And then really, Tim, you've been going through portfolio, you have some comments on portfolio optimization over time. Clearly, you've been adding some faster growth assets, but the business has not done a whole lot of pruning. So how does this all come together as you look out over the next 1 to 2 years and you think about the type of portfolio that you're really trying to create and some of the avenues that adding some of this volume scale and energy and Electrolene allow you to do on maybe some of the areas that are not growing quite sufficiently or quickly? Thanks.

Tim Cofer
Tim Cofer
CEO at Keurig Dr Pepper

Yes, Chris. Thank you. On the first one, here's what I'd say. Look, the hurricanes came right at the end of the quarter, literally in the last few days and it didn't help, all right. We saw an impact.

Tim Cofer
Tim Cofer
CEO at Keurig Dr Pepper

We actually had a significant facility as well right in the hurricane's path that got wiped out temporarily and we're putting it back together. So it didn't help. We're not going to give you a number, but that certainly didn't help our quarter end in close in Q3, particularly on the coffee side. To your other question on portfolio optimization, I would say, look, any good company continuously shapes their portfolio and that means adding good on top and cleaning house as appropriate. And when you do that well and consistently, you drive a more efficient total network from procurement and raw materials through to manufacturing, supply chain distribution operations.

Tim Cofer
Tim Cofer
CEO at Keurig Dr Pepper

And I think part of our approach here is really assessing our existing portfolio holistically and now deciding which categories and brands do we really want to emphasize and within the categories and brands, which SKUs. And when you do that, that does open the door to network optimization and really DSD optimization. Now when you do that, it also can come within that sales trade on. But the long term win and I've seen it many times in my career is a faster growing portfolio operating at higher service levels and operating at a more attractive cost structure. If you think about KDP, you know we're still a relatively young company.

Tim Cofer
Tim Cofer
CEO at Keurig Dr Pepper

And if you think about the last 5 to 6 years, first things first, it was around integrating these 2 companies, doing a great job on synergy capture, then we hit that whole COVID pandemic. And so we're now at a point, especially when you add a great new brand like Ghost, where we can take the opportunity to refocus on portfolio optimization. And so you're going to hear us talk more about it. I referenced it in today's remarks. And I think it's particularly true on U.

Tim Cofer
Tim Cofer
CEO at Keurig Dr Pepper

S. Refreshment beverage. So we're actively working. We're scoping and sizing the potential as we speak. We'll share more details over time.

Tim Cofer
Tim Cofer
CEO at Keurig Dr Pepper

But no doubt, when you add a high growth focused asset like Ghost in an attractive category like energy, that and I said it in my remarks, that gives us some top line flexibility going into 2025 to make some tough choices on portfolio optimization that over the long term, I think will really yield fruit both on the top line growth and on the margin.

Operator

The next question comes from Robert Ottenstein with Evercore. Please go ahead.

Robert Ottenstein
Senior Managing Director & Partner at EvercoreISI

You kind of 2 things. First of all, congratulations on both Ghost and Bloom. They're terrific brands. You kind of went at this a little bit, but obviously there is a bit of a concern. You can hear from investors and analysts on the call about whether you're kind of doing too much at the same time and whether the system can handle it all.

Robert Ottenstein
Senior Managing Director & Partner at EvercoreISI

And not just in terms of energy, but you got Electrolit. There's a lot going on. You talked about pruning things. But maybe if you could talk a little bit about your infrastructure capabilities, what you have in terms of warehouses, logistics, IT systems and the investments that you've done over the last number of years to be able to handle increased complexity? And then just more of an execution issue, any comments on plans to transition from the Anheuser Busch distribution system to yours for Ghost and kind of roughly how long you expect that to take?

Robert Ottenstein
Senior Managing Director & Partner at EvercoreISI

Thanks.

Tim Cofer
Tim Cofer
CEO at Keurig Dr Pepper

Thanks, Robert. I think a little bit to your prefs, we've spoke about this a little bit, but let me try to unpack it a little bit more. In short, I think we are well prepared and well positioned to take on the new growth factor with Ghost. I think evidence of that is what you've seen us do the last couple of years. C4, I gave a lot of stats earlier to one of the earlier questions on our success with C4.

Tim Cofer
Tim Cofer
CEO at Keurig Dr Pepper

Electrolyte has been a very smooth and successful transition this year. We have an incredible relationship with Electrolite Management and the family at Grupo Pisa. I was actually there a few months ago talking about the transition. And I think they and we are very pleased with that handover and that transition. You're seeing the good early results and you will see more next year.

Tim Cofer
Tim Cofer
CEO at Keurig Dr Pepper

We've had a very successful sell in into 2025 resets on ELETRALLETE. I think the KDP DSD system is showing its resilience. Point in fact, I met with our DSD leadership team the last couple of days here in Frisco headquarters and they are feeling very bullish about what we're doing on C4 and Electrolyte. And I know they're I told them for all the right reasons obviously, but didn't share the news of this morning until this morning. I told them to call in and listen and I know they're listening right now.

Tim Cofer
Tim Cofer
CEO at Keurig Dr Pepper

They're really excited about seeing the flywheel of KDP accelerate particularly in C Stores. So from an infrastructure standpoint, from an investment standpoint, to your point, in our branches, in our DCs and our warehouses, you've seen that investment, take hold. You've seen us also get acquisitive around territories, which is I think another proof point of our confidence in DSD. Look at what you see in Arizona. I mentioned a new smaller territory in Tennessee we just took and then there's some broader bigger news that may follow in 2025 that's out in the public domain.

Tim Cofer
Tim Cofer
CEO at Keurig Dr Pepper

So we've got really a strong commercial skill set with our partners. I think that's why we're a preferred partner in the industry and we feel good overall about our ability to digest these. At the end of your question, you referenced ABI. Yes. And no doubt ABI is Ghost's current distribution partner.

Tim Cofer
Tim Cofer
CEO at Keurig Dr Pepper

Our expectation is we will begin to transition the distribution in is Goh's current distribution partner. Our expectation is we will begin to transition the distribution in mid-twenty 25. This is consistent with the 6 month termination notice that's required. After that, we will assume responsibility for all the distribution and work within KDP, DSD and in some select cases, partner distributors to ensure that Ghost is available everywhere.

Operator

This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Jane Gelfand for any closing remarks.

Jane Gelfand
Jane Gelfand
Vice President of Investor Relations & Strategic Initiatives at Keurig Dr Pepper

Thank you, Betsy, and thank you everyone for participating. We're going try to keep you on time given multiple competing earnings. We do appreciate your support and IR will be available all day to answer any follow-up questions you may have. Thank you again and have a great day.

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      Jane Gelfand
      Vice President of Investor Relations & Strategic Initiatives
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      Tim Cofer
      CEO
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