American Tower Q3 2024 Earnings Call Transcript

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Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. Welcome to the American Tower Third Quarter 20 24 Earnings Conference Call. As a reminder, today's conference call is being recorded. Following the prepared remarks, we will open the call for questions. I would now like to turn the call over to your host, Adam Smith, Senior Vice President of Investor Relations and FP and A.

Operator

Please go ahead, sir.

Adam Smith
Adam Smith
SVP, IR at American Tower

Good morning, and thank you for joining American Tower's 3rd quarter earnings conference call. We have posted a presentation, which you will refer to throughout our prepared remarks under the Investor Relations tab of our website, www.americantower.com. I'm joined on the call today by Steve Bondren, our President and CEO and Rod Smith, our Executive Vice President, CFO and Treasurer. Following our prepared remarks, we will open up the call for your questions. Before we begin, I'll remind you that our comments will contain forward looking statements that involve a number of risks and uncertainties.

Adam Smith
Adam Smith
SVP, IR at American Tower

Examples of these statements include our expectations regarding future growth, including our 2024 outlook, capital allocation and future operating performance and any other statements regarding matters that are not historical facts. You should be aware that certain factors may affect us in the future and could cause actual results to differ materially from those expressed in these forward looking statements. Such factors include the risk factors set forth in this morning's earnings press release, those set forth in our most recent annual report on Form 10 ks and other risks described in documents we subsequently file from time to time with the SEC. We urge you to consider these factors and remind you that we undertake no obligation to update the information contained in this call to reflect subsequent events or circumstances. With that, I'll turn the call over to Steve.

Steven Vondran
Steven Vondran
President & CEO at American Tower

Thanks, Adam, and thanks to everyone for joining today. As you can see in our Q3 results, demand remains strong across our global portfolio of real estate assets. In our tower business, our customers' efforts to deploy mid band 5 gs for additional coverage continue to support a healthy pipeline of activity across the U. S, Europe and parts of our emerging markets. The discussions we're having with our carrier customers about their need to address upcoming capacity requirements, particularly in the U.

Steven Vondran
Steven Vondran
President & CEO at American Tower

S, further reinforce our bullish expectations for the densification phase of the 5 gs investment cycle. Additionally, our data center segment delivered another fantastic quarter of leasing, benefiting from accelerating hybrid IT deployments and early signs of AI related demand. To complement our top line growth, executing our previously stated strategic initiative to enhance our portfolio composition and improve the quality of earnings by focusing our discretionary capital in developed markets and closing our India sale. I want to thank all the teams involved in the sale process for their efforts and dedication to getting the deal over the finish line and for ensuring a successful outcome for both American Tower and Brookfield. Finally, we continue to add value by managing our cost structure to maximize conversion rates, expand our margins and drive profitability across our business.

Steven Vondran
Steven Vondran
President & CEO at American Tower

We remain committed to executing on all these strategic priorities that position American Tower to deliver durable, high quality earnings growth over the long term. On our last call, I talked through the key lessons learned from our historical capital investments that have led us to refine our approach to investment underwriting and prioritize capital deployment to our developed markets. Having recently covered the U. S. Tower market where demand remains firmly intact, I'll focus today's remarks on our other developed market platforms, Europe and CoreSite.

Steven Vondran
Steven Vondran
President & CEO at American Tower

However, I'd first like to recognize the critical efforts of our U. S. Teams who've been working with our customers to rapidly restore essential communication and emergency services to those communities affected by Hurricane Selena and Milton. I really appreciate all their hard work. So now I'd like to highlight trends in our European and CoreSite businesses, which are each positioned to capture high rates of organic growth and provide opportunities to further invest where returns meet our standards.

Steven Vondran
Steven Vondran
President & CEO at American Tower

I'll start with Europe. As we've highlighted on past calls, we were highly disciplined in our approach to enter select European markets at scale and we're seeing that patience pay off. In our assessment of Europe, we leveraged our global underwriting operating experience to effectively evaluate the most attractive markets. Our criteria included macroeconomic stability, government support for mobile connectivity, healthy carrier and counterparty profiles and critical contract terms and conditions. Additionally, we sought market and competitive dynamics where we believe that our value proposition as a true independent operator with over 2 decades of global experience could successfully deliver a best in class customer experience that affords outsized new business and enhanced margins.

Steven Vondran
Steven Vondran
President & CEO at American Tower

This rigorous assessment led to the acquisition of select portfolios across Germany, France and Spain, where mobile data consumption is expected to grow at about a 20% CAGR over the next 5 years and where governments have advocated for nationwide coverage through various activities, including spectrum auctions and subsidy programs like the New Deal in France, Spain's 5 gs Unico to support rural 5 gs development and the Gigabit Infrastructure Act at the broader EU level. Importantly, these markets also present a healthy carrier environment, including increased competition in Germany and Spain through new entrants as well as strong market leaders with whom we contract for the majority of our business. Approximately 85% of our revenues in Europe are indexed to care with at least a 25% share in their respective markets. This provides a high degree of insulation from further consolidation risk, maintaining our very low exposure to ongoing consolidation in Spain, while providing visibility into sustained growth and quality of earnings over the long term. And although land sharing is a reality in certain parts of these markets, we mitigate its impact with well structured customer agreements that allow us to either monetize such sharing or provide certain revenue protections that support our growth objectives.

Steven Vondran
Steven Vondran
President & CEO at American Tower

American Tower is uniquely positioned to unlock opportunities in Germany, France and Spain, where the neutral host independent tower model is still relatively nascent. Leveraging our considerable experience and capabilities can help solve persistent operational challenges experienced by the carriers and infrastructure operators throughout past network cycles. Since closing the TELSIUS acquisition, which increased our asset count in the region over 5 times, we further enhanced our ability to serve our customers by internalizing critical activities that aligns our global competencies, reducing reliance on external vendors, strengthening our process management leadership and when possible, integrating our teams directly with our customers to expedite decision making and improve processes. Our disciplined approach to market entry and effective operational execution have yielded an attractive growth profile in Europe. On the organic side, healthy carrier demand combined with the benefit of CPI linked escalators have yielded an average of over 7% organic tenant billings growth over the past 3 years, and we remain confident in driving organic growth in line with our mid single digit expectations in the region going forward.

Steven Vondran
Steven Vondran
President & CEO at American Tower

To complement this organic growth, we also invested in an increased new build activity, delivering 1200 new sites since the start of 2021. Additionally, we've improved the process of getting new top co locations on air to further evolve the neutral host model and reduce the carrier's total cost of ownership. This required engagement with regulators, landlords, tenants, vendors and the enhancement of our own internal skill sets that's paying off as approximately 70% of our expected organic new business growth in 2024 coming through co locations, of which over a quarter are on rooftops. Taken altogether, we see a long runway of sustained growth with optionality to further capitalize on a multiyear pipeline of attractive development opportunities. As carriers continue to rapidly deploy mid band spectrum and densify their networks to meet insatiable data demand, we'll continue to assess opportunities using both the principle that shaped our investments for over a decade and the recent learnings we've institutionalized.

Steven Vondran
Steven Vondran
President & CEO at American Tower

Now I'll switch to our data center business. We also see long term demand trends within our U. S. Data center segment, which like our European portfolio provides a platform for incremental development opportunities underwritten at very attractive return profiles. Since closing the CoreSite transaction at the end of 2021, we've achieved record breaking leasing each year and are on pace again to deliver a new high mark in 2024.

Steven Vondran
Steven Vondran
President & CEO at American Tower

As we've highlighted on past calls, our portfolio is optimally positioned to benefit from accelerating demand for hybrid and multi cloud IT architecture due to its ability to facilitate seamless, secure, nationwide low latency interoperability, including native cloud access to a diverse set of customers. Critically, we believe that CoreSite's interconnection campus model, which can be extended to distributed endpoints to support the low latency and cost efficiency required for future use cases, represents a potentially distinct option for new synergistic revenue opportunities when combined with our tower assets at the edge. Today, I'm more convinced than ever that the mobile edge is going to present a meaningful addressable market for us in part due to the rapid acceleration in AI deployments and the infrastructure required to accommodate future latency sensitive workloads like inferencing. And while the timing might be delayed relative to our initial expectations, we continue to expect synergies between our tower and CoreSite platforms over the long term. In the meantime, we're realizing the benefits of the step function of AI demand and our leasing results at CoreSite.

Steven Vondran
Steven Vondran
President & CEO at American Tower

AI driven workloads are a growing component of CoreSite site leasing and customer requirements are indicating that demand will only grow over the near to medium term. Over the past several quarters, enterprises have started to build their own GPU space architectures, connecting to the cloud either through auto ramps or our virtual OCX offering. These deployments resemble typical hybrid IT architecture, but they're larger and more power dense. As with virtually all workloads across the AI spectrum, our facilities are well equipped to accommodate this need. More indirectly, our data center portfolio is also benefiting from hyperscale AI absorption that's consuming a record level of capacity throughout our key markets, exacerbating the supply and demand imbalance and further supporting a favorable pricing environment for both new leasing and renewals into the foreseeable future.

Steven Vondran
Steven Vondran
President & CEO at American Tower

Given the healthy demand catalyst that we see persisting for many years to come, attractive rates of return that are derisked through accelerated preleasing activity, we plan to allocate more capital to CoreSite over the next several years, likely meeting or exceeding the $480,000,000 in development spend assumed at the midpoint of our 2024 guide. Recently, I've received questions as to whether we'd be interested in participating in the extensive hyperscale development taking place in the market today. We see a long runway ahead for CoreSite's retail oriented approach, which has yielded industry leading returns on a sustained basis as our facilities continue to meet and in certain cases exceed our initial expectations for mid teens stabilized yields. Thus single tenant hyperscale opportunities are not a priority unless there was a clear opportunity for one to serve as a seed for a new campus or if there were compelling opportunities to invest with our JV partner, Styrm Ped. Today, we're prioritizing the expansion of existing campuses, new ground up facilities adjacent to existing campuses or potentially selected expansion of our national ecosystem establishing new campuses in new markets.

Steven Vondran
Steven Vondran
President & CEO at American Tower

We remain focused on developing multi tenant colocation facilities, methodically curating the mix of customers deployed within our facilities to enhance the value of our interconnection ecosystem and effectively planning for long term absorption and power needs. In closing, American Tower has built a global platform of assets that are well positioned to capitalize on the exponential rise in data demand. Our CoreSite data center business and European tower operation are both differentiated by asset quality and best in class operations, creating a leading experience for our customers as they deploy the critical networks and applications of today and the future. These businesses are uniquely positioned to deliver attractive sustained organic growth and provide optionality for us to assess future opportunities for investment. This portfolio strength combined with demand catalyst across our global portfolio and the ongoing progress we're making in executing the strategic priorities I laid out earlier in this year position American Tower extremely well to deliver high quality earnings growth and total shareholder returns for many years to come.

Steven Vondran
Steven Vondran
President & CEO at American Tower

With that, I'll turn it over to Rod to discuss Q3 performance and our updated outlook. Rod?

Rodney Smith
Rodney Smith
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer at American Tower

Thanks, Steve. Good morning and thank you for joining today's call. As you saw in this morning's press release, adjusted for certain non cash items in the quarter, including the loss taken upon closing our ATC India sale, our solid third quarter results continue to highlight strong demand across our exceptional portfolio of global assets. These durable demand trends, combined with our disciplined approach to capital allocation, continued focus on cost management and strong balance sheet position us to deliver sustained high quality earnings, growth and shareholder returns over the long term. Before I dive into our results, I want to highlight a key reporting change as it relates to the successful closing of our ATC India sale on September 12.

Rodney Smith
Rodney Smith
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer at American Tower

You will now see historical results associated with our India business reported as discontinued operations represented as a standalone line item on the income statement, balance sheet and in our reconciliations to attributable AFFO. As such, certain reported measures, including revenues and expenses within the income statement and non GAAP measures such as adjusted EBITDA and tenant billings will now be presented to exclude discontinued operations. I encourage you to refer to the definitions and footnotes throughout our Q3 earnings presentation and press release for added clarity on how the discontinued operations treatment is reflected in our results. Additionally, we have introduced new metrics, AFFO attributable to AMT common stockholders or attributable AFFO as adjusted and AFFO attributable to AMT common stockholders per share or attributable AFFO per share as adjusted. These new metrics represent results from continuing operations adjusted for a full period of interest expense savings associated with the use of proceeds from the India sale.

Rodney Smith
Rodney Smith
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer at American Tower

The intent of these as adjusted metrics is to provide investors with what we believe our continuing operations would produce in attributable AFFO and attributable AFFO per share. We believe this will be useful in determining an appropriate baseline for future periods. Now a few highlights from the quarter. First, in the Q3, demand for our global portfolio of assets remained strong as we saw continued acceleration in application volumes in the U. S.

Rodney Smith
Rodney Smith
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer at American Tower

Which nearly doubled those of the prior year period and similar growth in our services gross margin. Internationally, mid single digit organic tenant billings growth was supported by another quarter of accelerating new business contributions in Europe and double digit organic growth in Africa. International organic growth was complemented by selective new site construction, including the 4th consecutive quarter of over 100 sites in Europe and approximately 500 new sites overall. As Steve mentioned, demand in our U. S.

Rodney Smith
Rodney Smith
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer at American Tower

Data center business remains exceptionally strong and well in excess of our initial underwriting as CoreSite is on track for its 3rd consecutive record year of new leasing, supporting year over year revenue growth of over 10%. Next, complementing the demand trends driving our top line results, we continue to execute strategic priorities laid out earlier this year. On the cost management side, 3rd quarter SG and A excluding bad debt declined nearly 2% year over year, supporting cash adjusted EBITDA margin expansion of roughly 30 basis points as compared to the prior year period. We also made progress in optimizing our portfolio, closing our India sale and signing agreements to sell our land interests in Australia and New Zealand. Additionally, we further strengthened the balance sheet by using ATC India sale proceeds to reduce gross debt and we expect further reductions from efficient repatriation in the near term.

Rodney Smith
Rodney Smith
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer at American Tower

Importantly, S and P upgraded our credit rating to BBB Flat from BBB- during the quarter, signaling our momentum in executing key financial and operating strategies to enhance our balance sheet strength, financial flexibility and portfolio quality. These achievements reinforce our commitment to actively assess our global portfolio to focus on platforms where we can drive high quality earnings and earnings growth, outsized returns and compelling total shareholder value over the long term. Finally, on the customer front, we took certain provisions in Colombia related to Wong who filed for the equivalent of U. S. Bankruptcy earlier this year.

Rodney Smith
Rodney Smith
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer at American Tower

Any outcome of the potential reorganization is uncertain and it would be premature to speculate, but we began recognizing revenue on a cash basis and reserved a portion of outstanding ARs bad debt. In the Q3, this resulted in revenue reserves of $13,000,000 including $3,000,000 in straight line and another $8,000,000 recognized as bad debt expense. For context, WOM Columbia's gross revenue makes up approximately 1.5% and less than 0.5% of our total Latin America and consolidated property revenues respectively. Turning to 3rd quarter property revenue and organic tenant billings growth on Slide 6. Consolidated property revenue declined approximately 1% year over year and increased nearly 1% excluding non cash straight line revenue.

Rodney Smith
Rodney Smith
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer at American Tower

Growth was negatively impacted by roughly 3% due to FX as well as by the non recurrence of certain one time benefits in the U. S. In the prior year period and revenue reserves taken in the current period in Colombia. As I mentioned, performance was supported by the 3rd consecutive quarter of double digit growth in our U. S.

Rodney Smith
Rodney Smith
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer at American Tower

Data center business. Moving to the right side of the slide, consolidated organic tenant billings growth was over 5%. In our U. S. And Canada segment, growth was 5% or approximately 6% absent Sprint related churn.

Rodney Smith
Rodney Smith
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer at American Tower

As we have previously indicated, we expect to see a step down towards 4% growth in Q4 due to the commencement of the final tranche of Sprint Churn consistent with prior outlook assumptions. On the international side, growth was 5.7% representing an enhancement of over 100 basis points compared to prior expectations through the exclusion of the India business. Turning to Slide 7, adjusted EBITDA declined approximately 1% year over year, primarily due to the revenue drivers I just discussed. Growth excluding non cash straight line was just over 2%, benefiting from disciplined cost management in a roughly 100% increase in our services gross margin associated with an increase in tower activity. Growth was negatively impacted approximately 3% by FX headwinds.

Rodney Smith
Rodney Smith
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer at American Tower

Moving to the right side of the slide, AFFO attributable to American Tower common stockholders increased 2.6% year over year, driven by the high conversion of cash adjusted EBITDA growth to AFFO through the effective management of interest costs, maintenance CapEx and cash taxes, partially offset by the timing of our India sale. On an as adjusted per share basis, growth would have stood at nearly 3%. Now shifting to our revised full year outlook. I'll start with a few key updates. First, outlook has been adjusted for the close of our India transaction.

Rodney Smith
Rodney Smith
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer at American Tower

As a result, historical India results will now be treated as discontinued operations and as such our property revenue, organic tenant billings and adjusted EBITDA will exclude India contributions for the full year. Our reported AFFO attributable to AMT common stockholders will include contributions from discontinued operations

Rodney Smith
Rodney Smith
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer at American Tower

up to

Rodney Smith
Rodney Smith
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer at American Tower

the date of closing. Prior year periods have been adjusted accordingly. Next, our core business and the drivers that underpin our performance remain solid. As a company, we're focused on executing on a strong pipeline of new business demand, driving cost discipline and margin expansion across the global business and effectively allocating our capital in a manner that supports sustained value creation. As you'll see, we're absorbing provisions in our outlook related to WOM consisting of $21,000,000 in incremental revenue reserves including $3,000,000 in straight line and an additional $15,000,000 in bad debt expense, which combined represent $36,000,000 in downside to adjusted EBITDA and $33,000,000 to AFFO relative to our prior outlook.

Rodney Smith
Rodney Smith
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer at American Tower

However, we're more than offsetting that exposure through direct expense savings and an anticipated settlement with a customer in Brazil associated with the cancellation of future lease obligations, the latter contributing $35,000,000 of upside. Lastly, our revised FX assumptions include an incremental headwind of $25,000,000 $20,000,000 $17,000,000 to property revenue, adjusted EBITDA and AFFO attributable to AMT common stockholders respectively. Turning to Slide 8, we are increasing our expectations for property revenue from continuing operations by approximately $15,000,000 This outperformance includes $15,000,000 of core upside, primarily driven by our data center segment and the one time customer settlement in Brazil, partially offset by WOM related reserves and an anticipated delay in certain non run rate reimbursements in the U. S, which we now expect to receive in 2025. Non core outperformance is driven by increases in pass through revenue in straight line.

Rodney Smith
Rodney Smith
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer at American Tower

Total outperformance was partially offset by FX. Moving to Slide 9, organic tenant billings growth expectations for consolidated U. S. And Canada, Africa, Europe and Latin America remain unchanged with trends and catalysts consistent with our prior assumptions. The removal of the lower growth India business did increase our international expectation by roughly 100 basis points from the prior outlook to approximately 6% and provides a modest benefit to our consolidated company expectations, though not enough to move our expectation of approximately 5%.

Rodney Smith
Rodney Smith
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer at American Tower

Turning to Slide 10, we are increasing our outlook for adjusted EBITDA from continuing operations by $5,000,000 This outperformance is driven by the revenue drivers I just mentioned together with incremental operating expenses upside achieved through a combination of recurring savings from various strategic initiatives as well as certain non recurring benefits. Gross margin expectations for our U. S. Services business remain intact. Although certain anticipated project delays into 2025 will likely bring our revenue modestly below initial estimates.

Rodney Smith
Rodney Smith
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer at American Tower

Partially offsetting the benefits to adjusted EBITDA, we've assumed $15,000,000 of additional bad debt expense associated with long and another $20,000,000 in FX unfavorability. Moving to Slide 11, adjusting our prior attributable AFFO per share outlook midpoint of $10.60 to the timing of the India closing resulted in approximately $0.12 of dilution leading to a midpoint of $10.48 per share. This is directionally consistent with the dilution expectations communicated on past calls. Relative to prior outlook, adjusted for the ATC India closing, our revised outlook reflects upside of $0.05 moving the midpoint to $10.53 per share. Improvements include approximately $0.05 in outperformance from our India business through the September 12 closing date and the 100% conversion of cash adjusted EBITDA upside from our continuing operations on a currency neutral basis, which is largely offset by the impacts of FX.

Rodney Smith
Rodney Smith
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer at American Tower

On an as adjusted basis, the outlook midpoint remains consistent at $9.95 per share, reflecting the core outperformance in our continuing operations offset by FX. Moving to Slide 12, our capital allocation plans remain relatively consistent except for the removal of $105,000,000 of capital expenditures allocated to India in our prior outlook. Our planned dividend distribution remains at $6.48 per share with the expectation to resume growth in 2025 all subject to Board approval. In summary, at the start of the year, we laid out a compelling set of expectations for 2024, reflective of the strong durable data demand trends that continue to highlight the criticality of our real estate assets. Our top line financial targets assumed accelerating demand in the U.

Rodney Smith
Rodney Smith
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer at American Tower

S. And Europe, ongoing growth through 5 gs coverage and 4 gs densification across our emerging markets and a continuation of near record setting leasing in our data center segment. To capture that demand, we established a set of strategic priorities aimed to effectively support our customers' needs and drive new business opportunities, manage our costs and capital structure and optimize our portfolio through selective asset sales and refined capital allocation priorities to enhance margins and the quality of our earnings profile. Our accomplishments to date and expectations for the duration of the year reflect the successful execution across each of these priorities. We believe this momentum will position us for an even stronger future, enabling us to drive attractive high quality growth and shareholder value for years to come.

Rodney Smith
Rodney Smith
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer at American Tower

With that, operator, we can open the line for questions.

Operator

Thank you. You. We'll go to the line of Ric Prentiss with Raymond James.

Ric Prentiss
Ric Prentiss
Managing Director at Raymond James Financial

Thanks. Good morning, everybody.

Rodney Smith
Rodney Smith
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer at American Tower

Good morning, Rick.

Ric Prentiss
Ric Prentiss
Managing Director at Raymond James Financial

Hey, I got two areas of questions, one at the top line and one at the bottom line. Last year on the Q3 call, you gave some color on new lease activity in North America, kind of saying, hey, we're going to split the goalpost, no guidance given at the time, but kind of directionally, we'll split the goalpost, we'll be above 22 level, but below 23 levels. As we look at the green shoots and the positive stuff you just went through on your presentation, directionally, how should we think about 25 new lease activity versus 2024 in North America?

Steven Vondran
Steven Vondran
President & CEO at American Tower

Yes. I'll take that Rick. It's still too early to give guidance for next year. There's still some moving pieces in it. But if you look at particularly the U.

Steven Vondran
Steven Vondran
President & CEO at American Tower

S. Business, we are hearing a lot of good conversation from our customers about the beginnings of the densification phase. And that's right in line with what we thought was going to happen. And so if you think about next year, in terms of the leasing in the U. S, we still have this final tranche of Sprint churn that's hitting October this year that will weigh on the U.

Steven Vondran
Steven Vondran
President & CEO at American Tower

S. A bit. And so when you kind of couple that with the kind of leasing environment that we're seeing, what's contractually already committed growth under our comprehensive MLAs, which does touch tick down just a little bit next year. That's most likely you're going to see us kind of in that mid-4s range in terms of the U. S.

Steven Vondran
Steven Vondran
President & CEO at American Tower

Growth rate for next year. And that's consistent with our long term guide of at least 5% from 23% to 27%. Because if you think about 26% and 27%, at that point, we're through the Sprint churn. And so if you look at 2025 through that lens, we still have about 100 basis points of churn coming in from that final Sprint churn tranche. So if you normalize that out, that's kind of be the mid-5s for next year.

Steven Vondran
Steven Vondran
President & CEO at American Tower

So that's kind of the way to think about sizing it. And exactly where in that mid-4s range we're going to be, we're not sure yet. We do have one customer that's not on comprehensive. So there's some volume driven things with that. We also are hearing some interest from customers and new co locations that would be outside of our comprehensive MLAs.

Steven Vondran
Steven Vondran
President & CEO at American Tower

We don't know if that's going to fall in the early part of 2025 or the later part of 2025 or 2020 6. We're still trying to figure that out. There's a few moving pieces there, but directionally you can think about it kind of being in that mid-4s range.

Rodney Smith
Rodney Smith
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer at American Tower

Hey Rick, maybe I would just add to that in terms of 2024 levels of new business. We had provided you guys all a range of between $180,000,000 $190,000,000 And the way the year is shaping up, it's pretty consistent each quarter in terms of the amount of new biz that we loaded on. We expect that to be similar for Q4 as well. So pretty similar to the last three quarters, which was all in and around a quarterly contribution of about mid-40s, dollars 45,000,000 or so. That would end up landing us at kind of the lower end of that range around 180 $1,000,000 And that's all kind of supportive of then transitioning into next year and hitting the numbers that Steve just talked about.

Ric Prentiss
Ric Prentiss
Managing Director at Raymond James Financial

Okay. And then on the bottom line question, Slide 11 is helpful. Appreciate Slide 11 in the deck. I want to make sure I understand completely not a CPA, discontinued ops accounting makes my head spin this morning, I admit. We had been thinking originally that India would be kind of about $0.08 a quarter, maybe $0.32 a year as far as an impact net net net.

Ric Prentiss
Ric Prentiss
Managing Director at Raymond James Financial

How should we think about going from $10.60 to $10.48 to the $9.95 is what I'll call AAA FFO adjusted attributable adjusted funds from operations. How should we think about stepping down from that $10.60 to $10.48 to the $9.95 which sounds like that should be our jump off point to thinking how growth in $25 would look?

Rodney Smith
Rodney Smith
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer at American Tower

Yes. I think that's right, Rick. So fully appreciate that the numbers can be a little bit complicated with the addition of the sale of India and accounting for that under discontinued ops. I'll try to hit a couple of the highlights here. And certainly for anyone on the call that wants to go through it in more granular detail, our Investor Relations group is here to walk you through all the detail.

Rodney Smith
Rodney Smith
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer at American Tower

First, I'll take you from maybe the 10 going over the 10.53 which is kind of our AFFO numbers as reported, right? So the 10.60 dollars $10.60 a share was the original outlook. We sold India at the beginning of the Q4 here. So that's out of our numbers for the Q4. So that pulled out $0.12 That's just the elimination of the India contribution to AFFO per share for Q4 which they're no longer in there.

Rodney Smith
Rodney Smith
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer at American Tower

So we stepped from $10.60 per share to $10.48 Then on an apples to apples basis, India outperformed by about $22,000,000 That was largely with cash tax refunds and a few other items. There's outperformance across cash adjusted EBITDA of the $20,000,000 we show. And then there's a little bit of FX headwind another $17,000,000 going the other way primarily in the Latin America countries. That bridges us over to the $4,930,000,000 which is equal to $10.53 So that $10.53 still has India in there for the 1st three quarters. When you drop down to the $9.95 you're basically reducing that by $0.58 which is the combination of pulling out the India contributions to AFFO and also offsetting that with interest savings that we have by using the $2,000,000,000 proceeds and the cash we got out earlier than closing in the 3rd 2nd and third quarter which we pulled out another almost 3 $50,000,000 Using all those proceeds to pay down debt will reduce our interest costs.

Rodney Smith
Rodney Smith
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer at American Tower

So the net of taking India contributions to AFFO out, also combining that with the interest savings from using the proceeds to pay down debt is the 0.58 dollars that gets you down to the $9.95 And then there is some timing issues in there and some outperformance in that number as well. Basically the $22,000,000 that I just talked about from India, the discontinued ops outperformance largely in terms of cash taxes. And that $9.95 is the best representation of our continuing operations AFFO per share for 2024. And that is a really good starting point to think about how the core business, the ongoing business, will grow going forward. And as we said, we look forward to mid single digit growth rates, kind of going forward and that holds true for 2025.

Rodney Smith
Rodney Smith
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer at American Tower

So that would put us into next year on an apples to apples basis the $9.95 We think we can grow that into the $10.50 range for 2025 and that would be AFFO from continuing operations. And again, Rick, I appreciate that there's a lot of numbers in here and it may take a little bit of time going through with our Investor Relations team. But trust me, when you kind of look through it, it becomes much easier after you've had a few minutes to think about it. I know people on the phone have only gotten the press release early this morning and there's a lot to digest. But once you get through it, I think you'll understand it pretty clearly.

Ric Prentiss
Ric Prentiss
Managing Director at Raymond James Financial

That's very helpful. And bottom line for me then is attributable AFFO per share, now it's kind of cleaned up. Is it really a mid single digit growing business? Can you get back to high single digits? Ever, what kind of tailwinds, headwinds kind of would keep you in mid single digit versus high single digits?

Rodney Smith
Rodney Smith
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer at American Tower

Yes. I think Rick certainly getting above mid single digits is absolutely possible. We are very happy with the portfolio that we have across the globe. We've been working very diligently to improve the quality of the earnings and selling the India business removing that volatility from the business is certainly a positive when you think of that. So the long term growth algorithm still holds true just as we've talked in the past certainly.

Rodney Smith
Rodney Smith
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer at American Tower

We think that U. S. Business can grow in the mid single digits just like Steve walked through the long term guide for U. S. OTBG on average that 5%.

Rodney Smith
Rodney Smith
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer at American Tower

We do think next year with that final tranche of the Sprint churn will be the low watermark and then it will spring back up in 2026 and 2027. And you think about that longer term guide over that whole period averaging 5%, we're still on track for that. The international business can grow faster than that certainly. We all know that CoreSite is outperforming our original expectations. We're hitting double digit growth this quarter and we'll for Q3 and we expect double digit growth here now going forward annually.

Rodney Smith
Rodney Smith
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer at American Tower

And we've had 2 years of record new business in CoreSite and we're pretty well set to either tie that or maybe even set a new record in 2024. So CoreSite is going exceptionally well. We've been very focused on cost controls, expanding margins, managing cash taxes, watching the balance sheet and reducing exposure to floating rate debt. You put all that together and yes the portfolio is strong and it's getting stronger as the quality of earnings go up and we've gotten through this interest headwind. So when you think about the longer term, yes we can get beyond that mid single digit growth rate.

Rodney Smith
Rodney Smith
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer at American Tower

The areas to watch FX, we still have 25% of our earnings coming from Latin America and Africa. So that there is something that we will watch. And where interest rates go, there's always uncertainty there. So we will watch that as well.

Steven Vondran
Steven Vondran
President & CEO at American Tower

Yes.

Steven Vondran
Steven Vondran
President & CEO at American Tower

And I would just add in Rick, if you think about kind of our long term growth algorithm, a couple of components to watch out for there. The first is Latin America. Over time, we believe that that will come back to high single digit growth. But for the next few years, we are projecting low single digit growth in there based on care consolidation churn. That's primarily Oi, but it's also some potential consolidation that we see kind of on the map.

Steven Vondran
Steven Vondran
President & CEO at American Tower

We're seeing some challenges with WOM and there may be a little bit more consolidation there. And that's why we think for the next few years that's going to be a low single digits. Once we get past that, that won't be a headwind for us. And we are past the U. S.

Steven Vondran
Steven Vondran
President & CEO at American Tower

Sprint churn after the end of this year. So that will be a positive for us. And so the swing factors will really be what's going to happen with FX over time. And while we have reduced our exposure to it, 25% of our attributable AFFO is still attributable to our emerging markets. So there is still some FX risk there.

Steven Vondran
Steven Vondran
President & CEO at American Tower

And just in the last few weeks, we've seen a negative trend in that that's resulted in a little bit of degradation for next year, just in the past few weeks. And then the other piece is interest rate headwinds. And I think it's anybody's guess as to what exactly happens with interest rates over the next few So those are the things we'll be watching. But that long term algorithm of mid to high single digits holds true even while absorbing some of those costs in there.

Ric Prentiss
Ric Prentiss
Managing Director at Raymond James Financial

Great.

Ric Prentiss
Ric Prentiss
Managing Director at Raymond James Financial

Appreciate all the color guys. Thanks.

Steven Vondran
Steven Vondran
President & CEO at American Tower

You're welcome.

Operator

We'll go next to the line of David Barden of Bank of America.

David Barden
David Barden
Managing Director at Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Hey guys, thanks for all that color Rod. Just Steve on the CoreSite business, you've been flagging the record leasing. It's not a number you guys have disclosed. Could we have a conversation about what the leasing number is and kind of what the historical context of what you're throwing up now is? And what the book to bill situation looks like in terms of the available pipeline to make that double digit revenue growth happen?

David Barden
David Barden
Managing Director at Bank of America Merrill Lynch

And then the second question, if I could, Rod, just to follow-up on this discussion. So this, I think what Rick called the AAA adjusted attributable AFFO, this is a number that you're going to report kind of on an ongoing basis and it will be the anchor for our conversation about the growth in 2025 on a quarterly basis. Is that fair? Thank you.

Rodney Smith
Rodney Smith
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer at American Tower

Yes, David. We'll certainly talk about that metric for as long as it's applicable which will be a little while until we lap this India sale. But while the India sale and the discontinued operations is in our base number or the comparable prior year numbers, we will let you know what it

Steven Vondran
Steven Vondran
President & CEO at American Tower

is. And when it comes to CoreSite, I don't think we've given a specific number in terms of what sales are. But you can think about it as a factor of what they were doing pre acquisition. That build pipeline, just for reference, we've got about over 40 megawatts of construction ongoing today. It's about 60% pre leased today, and that's replacing the capacity we've sold.

Steven Vondran
Steven Vondran
President & CEO at American Tower

So the way to think about that is their leasing today is significantly higher than the year before we bought them. And the majority of our $70,000,000 backlog that we have today is commencing between now and kind of the first half of twenty twenty five and the remainder is beyond that. So we haven't given a specific sale number. We are giving you guys the backlog. And that's the way to think about that revenue growth.

Steven Vondran
Steven Vondran
President & CEO at American Tower

We feel very confident in a high single or double digit, most likely double digit growth rate for the next several years in terms of revenue commencing there. And that continued strength continues to feed that sales pipeline. And we're expecting to have a healthy pipeline in 2025 as well. At this point, all those general dynamics that we're seeing in the industry are just continue to accelerate. And that is demand for hybrid cloud infrastructure by enterprises is our bread and butter.

Steven Vondran
Steven Vondran
President & CEO at American Tower

That's where we continue to see strength in it. And we're starting to see those enterprises now deploy GPUs, their own kind of AI based models. And that again is kind of the perfect customer for CoreSite. So we're seeing our existing customers increasing the size of their installations and that's going to keep feeding that pipeline for years to come. So we feel like that growth rate is durable for the foreseeable future right now.

Rodney Smith
Rodney Smith
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer at American Tower

Yes. And David maybe

Rodney Smith
Rodney Smith
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer at American Tower

I would just add in terms of the relationship with the prior numbers, our backlog in that $70,000,000 range, that's up from a number in the range of $40,000,000 or so when we bought CoreSite in those first couple of years. So it's up 75% or so. And that's a similar level of increase that we're seeing in the new biz roughly.

David Barden
David Barden
Managing Director at Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Okay. Thank you for the color both.

Operator

We'll go next to the line of Simon Flannery of Morgan Stanley.

Simon Flannery
Simon Flannery
Analyst at Morgan Stanley

Thanks so much. Good morning. Rod, you talked about the dividend policy. Perhaps you could just give us some context around how you're thinking about that. If you're growing the bottom line, call it mid single digits, is that the right way to think about dividend growth from here and how that works into payout ratios and leverage and so forth?

Simon Flannery
Simon Flannery
Analyst at Morgan Stanley

And just coming back to the core side CapEx, I think you said it could be ahead of the $480,000,000 I know in the past when you bought this, you were kind of to some extent ring fencing how much you would spend on CapEx. Can you sort of update that for us? I mean, would you be prepared to go to say $600,000,000 or $700,000,000 or what are the parameters you're thinking about how much money you do commit to data centers? Obviously, a great opportunity and you don't want to go hyperscale at this point, but does sound like you see opportunities to deploy capital at attractive levels, but love to understand how big that might go. Thanks.

Rodney Smith
Rodney Smith
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer at American Tower

Yes. Sounds good, Simon. I'll take the dividend question and Steve will talk to you about the CapEx for CoreSite. So with the dividend, as we talked about on the last call, we do look forward to resuming dividend growth as we get into 2025. I don't want to get into too much detail in terms of what that growth rate might be.

Rodney Smith
Rodney Smith
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer at American Tower

But similar to the way we've discussed it in prior calls, the long term view of the dividend growth rate is that it will closely mirror the average AFFO per share growth rate over time. So that's the way we think about it. So if we are hitting a mid single digit AFFO per share growth rate on average over time, we would expect that the dividend growth rate on average over that same time period would roughly equal that same kind of a growth rate. That's the way to think about it. You can't really apply that to every individual year because there could be puts and takes.

Rodney Smith
Rodney Smith
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer at American Tower

But over time, I think you kind of get the trajectory there. Now of course with dividend and dividend policy, every quarter we go to our Board and ask them to approve the dividend declaration and distribution. We would always do that. So everything I'm talking about here is subject to Board approval. But we do again, the portfolio that we have is strong.

Rodney Smith
Rodney Smith
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer at American Tower

It's getting stronger with the quality of earnings increasing, the balance sheet becoming stronger. So achieving that mid single digit AFFO per share growth rate maybe driving that up from there as we talked about with Rick's question. That all would kind of tie into our ability to grow the dividend. And if that dividend grows in line with AFFO per share, we do see the dividend payout as a percent of AFFO staying roughly where it is, which call it between $60,000,000 and mid-60s kind of in that range. That leaves us another $1,500,000,000 to $2,000,000,000 ish to deploy into our CapEx programs around the globe or use it to buy back shares or we could allocate it to debt reductions if we wanted to.

Rodney Smith
Rodney Smith
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer at American Tower

But it still leaves us with plenty of excess capital to run the business.

Steven Vondran
Steven Vondran
President & CEO at American Tower

And on the CapEx for CoreSite, we're not constraining the business So the business has the opportunity to deploy as much capital as it wants. And so you could see that number grow kind of into that range that you're talking about. And I would also just reiterate that the beauty of how we've constructed our CoreSite entity with our private capital partners is we have a lot of optionality in terms of how we fund that additional capital growth. So we'll be able to make the determination, how much American Tower wants to put in versus how much we rely on our partners real time as we're looking at the budgets for next year. So it's too early to tell you what the budget is going to be and what percentage we're going to pay, but it's a very good use of capital.

Steven Vondran
Steven Vondran
President & CEO at American Tower

We're still able to underwrite those mid teens or better development or better development yield and stabilization. And because the pre leasing is at historically high levels, it's a very low risk when you deploy capital. And we actually get a stabilization even sooner. So we think it's a great use of our capital to do that. We'll continue to fund those developments in our campuses as aggressively as we can sell and build.

Steven Vondran
Steven Vondran
President & CEO at American Tower

And so we'll let you know kind of where we lay out our expectations for 2025 where that lands. But the numbers that you're suggesting are in the ballpark of something that could be very reasonable for us to do.

Simon Flannery
Simon Flannery
Analyst at Morgan Stanley

Great. Thanks a lot, Steve.

Operator

We'll go next to the line of James Schneider with Goldman Sachs.

James Schneider
James Schneider
Analyst at Goldman Sachs

Good morning. Thanks for taking my question. I guess, first of all, strategically, Steve, you laid out some of the attractive qualities of European tower business on an organic basis. At the same time, some of the owners of European tower assets have been more vocal that they're open to potential sales. So I guess all else equal, is it fair to conclude that this would be an area where you might consider an acquisition of scale over the coming quarters or years?

James Schneider
James Schneider
Analyst at Goldman Sachs

And then secondly, on the CoreSite business, a couple of things I noted. One is a large land purchase in the quarter. Is that related to CoreSite and the new site development there that you're anticipating? And then I think you also made a comment on maybe inference being a little bit slower to materialize in your initial expectations. So maybe if you could unpack that those two things a little bit, that'd be great.

James Schneider
James Schneider
Analyst at Goldman Sachs

Thank you.

Steven Vondran
Steven Vondran
President & CEO at American Tower

Sure. So I'll start with the let me start with the CoreSite just because that's the most recent you asked. The land purchase that we did was in L. A. And that's to expand our L.

Steven Vondran
Steven Vondran
President & CEO at American Tower

A. Campus and that's to make sure that we have a continued runway to continue to serve our customers there. So that's again, you'll see us continue to invest in land think don't think it's been slower to develop than we thought. That was the edge that I was talking about that's been a little bit slower to develop than we thought. The inferencing layer, we're seeing some robust demand for that.

Steven Vondran
Steven Vondran
President & CEO at American Tower

And in fact, we're able to be very selective about the counterparty risk that we're taking there. We think that we're an ideal place for inferencing because that's really the distribution channel, how you interact with the large learning models. And we've certainly seen a lot of interest in that and we are writing some contracts with that. But there are a lot of kind of unproven businesses out there. We're being very selective about that counterparty risk.

Steven Vondran
Steven Vondran
President & CEO at American Tower

In terms of Europe, we would love to be able to replicate what we did with LCUS and other markets. We don't think we have to do that. We have adequate scale in Germany and Spain. We'd like to find some more scale in France if we could because we're a little bit subscale there. But we have to be patient and disciplined.

Steven Vondran
Steven Vondran
President & CEO at American Tower

We've seen a number of portfolios trade in Europe that had terms and conditions that just aren't conducive to long term shareholder value growth in terms of the way we see it. And so we've reiterated those kind of factors a few times. But terms and conditions are very important to us as are the counterparties that we're contracting with as well as the overall colocation dynamic. And what's working so well for us today in Europe is we have very low churn. We bought towers at a low tenancy.

Steven Vondran
Steven Vondran
President & CEO at American Tower

We have very little risk of some of the consolidation we're seeing in Spain and other markets. And we're seeing some competitive dynamics emerge in Europe that just weren't there in the past decade or so where you're seeing people competing on network quality a little bit compared to what they were in the past. And that's promoting some builds. And you couple that with the real push by the governments to get ubiquitous coverage everywhere, including the rural areas, it's a great dynamic for us. So if there were portfolios that came available in Europe that had similar characteristics, similar terms and conditions at the right valuation, we'd certainly be interested.

Steven Vondran
Steven Vondran
President & CEO at American Tower

But we're not going to rush into anything and we're not going to buy things that don't meet our investment criteria that create that long term value chain.

Rodney Smith
Rodney Smith
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer at American Tower

Hey, James, maybe when it comes

Rodney Smith
Rodney Smith
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer at American Tower

to Europe, maybe I'll just highlight a couple of revenue items for you here. So you've heard us say in the past that we're very happy with the European business that we have. It's outperforming our original expectations. I'll just hone in on the organic tenant billings growth. We hit another quarter where we were over 6% OTBG for Europe.

Rodney Smith
Rodney Smith
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer at American Tower

We're looking at about 6% for the full year. And that's a very balanced 6%. So we're in the quarter we were a little over 4% contributions from organic new biz. That has been accelerating for the last several quarters. It is higher than it was in any quarter in the last 6 quarters or so.

Rodney Smith
Rodney Smith
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer at American Tower

So we're seeing an accelerated level of activity in the market, which we like a lot. The escalator is right around 3% And the churn rate continues to be below 1%. So it's a very balanced revenue generation model that we've been able to build there. And we're very excited about the platform that we have and the durability of the way that that business could grow. It looks very much like the U.

Rodney Smith
Rodney Smith
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer at American Tower

S. In terms of those numbers.

Operator

Anything further Mr. Schneider?

James Schneider
James Schneider
Analyst at Goldman Sachs

No. Thank you. That's great.

Operator

Thank you. We'll go next to the line of Batya Levi with UBS.

Batya Levi
Batya Levi
Equity Research Analyst at UBS Group

Great, thank you. Back to the domestic operations, can you talk about if you're seeing any change in the colocation versus amendment mix? And to the extent that DISH starts to expand its network, is it mostly included in the holistic agreement that you have right now? Or could there be upside? And one thing quickly on domestic gross margins, I think they were down a little bit year on year.

Batya Levi
Batya Levi
Equity Research Analyst at UBS Group

Is there anything to call out there? Thank you.

Steven Vondran
Steven Vondran
President & CEO at American Tower

Sure. I'll talk about the demand trends and Rodney can talk about the gross margin. Overall, the mix that we're seeing is pretty consistent today, but we're seeing more interest in new So we're getting we're having requests for information like what rad centers are available, what's the structural capacity. Those kind of precede the applications typically as we're doing our RF planning. And the conversations we're having certainly indicate that they're moving into a densification phase that will shift more to new colos.

Steven Vondran
Steven Vondran
President & CEO at American Tower

So we're encouraged by what we're seeing there. In terms of how they work in our comprehensive agreements, every one of those agreements is a little bit differently works a little bit differently. Some of them are just amendments only. So in those agreements, all the new co locations are incremental. And in some of those, they may include a limited amount of co locations.

Steven Vondran
Steven Vondran
President & CEO at American Tower

And once they reach that number of co locations within the comprehensive agreement, the incremental over that would be extra outside of the comprehensive agreements. And so as we constructed our long term guide, we always knew that we would get to this densification phase and that the contribution from new co location outside of the comprehensive agreements will become a larger factor. And that's what we expect to see over the next several years. We expect to see this ramp up in co locations that will add into the growth that we're expecting to see over the next several years. And that's very consistent with what we're starting to hear from customers and their planning for the next phase of their network development.

Rodney Smith
Rodney Smith
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer at American Tower

Hey, Batya. Thanks for joining the call. So on the margins, I'll just hit the total margins and this applies to the domestic margins as well because the things I'll describe are really in the domestic business. But we had margins for the quarter a year ago for Q3 of 2023 of about 74 0.7%. That's down to 74.2%.

Rodney Smith
Rodney Smith
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer at American Tower

So you look at that and it's a 50 basis point reduction. The largest call out that I would highlight for you is the straight line impact there is about a negative 90 basis point hit to that margin. So of course, we all know straight line is a non cash item and it just kind of goes it's a dwindling balance here as we kind of run through that straight line curve. So on a cash basis, the margins really increased 40, 50 bps not decreased. And then there's a few other small things some one time settlements in the prior year that's not reoccurring, things like that.

Rodney Smith
Rodney Smith
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer at American Tower

But the straight line balance coming through is the biggest chain is the biggest impact, that makes it the reported margins come down, but the cash margins are actually going up.

Steven Vondran
Steven Vondran
President & CEO at American Tower

Okay. Batya, one clarification on the MLAs. DISH is largely a new lease comprehensive agreement. So that one, the new co locations will be included until they get to the maximum number of leases under that agreement, which we don't expect to happen for some time.

Batya Levi
Batya Levi
Equity Research Analyst at UBS Group

Got it. Thank you.

Operator

We'll go next to the line of Nick Del Deo of MoffettNathanson.

Nick Del Deo
Managing Director at Moffettnathanson LLC

Hey, good morning guys. Steve, in your prepared remarks, I think you said that you're more convinced

Nick Del Deo
Managing Director at Moffettnathanson LLC

than ever that Mobile Edge is going to eventually be an opportunity even if it's taken a bit longer to transpire. I guess, are there specific conversations or data points or other things you can point to to help us understand that increased level of conviction?

Steven Vondran
Steven Vondran
President & CEO at American Tower

Sure. So what I would say is we've got a few proofs of concepts that we're working on with some partners on some kind of niche use cases. But the underlying theme that we're seeing from really kind of the whole ecosystem and I would point to the ecosystem at CoreSite is you're seeing more decentralization. So you're seeing the cloud providers and the AI providers start looking at more distributed architecture today. And the first phase of that is going to more regional centers.

Steven Vondran
Steven Vondran
President & CEO at American Tower

And that's what you're seeing driving a lot of the hyperscale activity that's out there is you're seeing people diversify into more regions. Some of that is to take advantage of power costs, but some of that's also to get closer to the end user and the lower latency and transport costs. And so as we see that continuing to emerge, we think that will continue. And the conversations we're having with those types of players are that they want to continue to diversify over time. So they'll go to more regional facilities for a period of time.

Steven Vondran
Steven Vondran
President & CEO at American Tower

They're looking at Tier 2 markets, which is something that we're exploring with CoreSite is looking at expanding our presence in a couple of Tier 2 markets. You saw us do that in Miami a couple of years ago. We're still looking for opportunities to do that. And then that kind of diversification will continue until it gets out to the wireless edge, we believe, over time. At the same time, we're seeing our carrier customers start talking about going to 5 gs standalone infrastructure versus the non standalone 5 gs that's been deployed to date.

Steven Vondran
Steven Vondran
President & CEO at American Tower

And as you look at what's happening across the globe, you're seeing carriers that go to 5 gs standalone look at mobile edge compute more and more. So as we kind of look at both sides of that ecosystem, the wireline and the wireless, they're both going into an architecture that suggests the need for more compute at the edge. And so as we have those conversations and talk about what that eventual plan is and talk with them about what that infrastructure needs to look like at the edge, we're becoming more convinced than ever that that's going to happen. And that's really kind of what I'd point you to. Again, it's taking longer than we thought.

Steven Vondran
Steven Vondran
President & CEO at American Tower

You have to get the 5 gs standalone on the wireless side for that to make sense. And on the wireline side, there's a little bit of evolution that has to happen to get into that more distributed architecture. But once that momentum starts, they'll keep pushing out further and further toward the consumer.

Nick Del Deo
Managing Director at Moffettnathanson LLC

Okay. That's super helpful. Thank you, Steve. And then one other on thinking about some of your emerging tower markets. You've been clear in your words and actions that you're tightening up CapEx there.

Nick Del Deo
Managing Director at Moffettnathanson LLC

I guess has there been any sort of customer reaction to that decision? So for example, customer engagement with respect to discussing larger commitments, if maybe if you're not willing to put as much CapEx behind new builds or anything along those lines?

Steven Vondran
Steven Vondran
President & CEO at American Tower

We've been engaging with our customers on that. They understand the issues. I mean, they're good business people. Of course, they would love for us to invest more capital there, but they understand that we need to run our business in a way that creates shareholder value. And so if you look at what we've been able to talk about publicly where we renegotiated an agreement that we've looked at lower CapEx and more collocations.

Steven Vondran
Steven Vondran
President & CEO at American Tower

That's a result of the customer appreciating the situation we're in and working together to find a win win solution. And we think that we have the opportunity to continue to do that with those customers. We do want to support our Tier 1 MNOs across the globe. That's an important business for us. We do think that we will continue to see growth in those emerging markets over time.

Steven Vondran
Steven Vondran
President & CEO at American Tower

And so we're not saying we're spending no capital. We're just reducing the capital spend there and focusing more in the developed markets. So certainly, customers are a huge piece of that and they've been very receptive to working with this to find the right solution for them and for us.

Nick Del Deo
Managing Director at Moffettnathanson LLC

Okay. Thanks, Steve.

Steven Vondran
Steven Vondran
President & CEO at American Tower

I guess I should say thank you to all of our customers who are listening for understanding and working with us on that.

Operator

We'll go next to the line of Brandon Nispel of KeyBanc Capital Markets.

Brandon Nispel
Brandon Nispel
Director & Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets

Great. Thank you for taking the question. Steve, I think I heard in your answer to Rick's question earlier that you said contracted growth under your MLA steps down next year. Why is that? Do you guys have another customer who comes off their holistic MLA next year?

Brandon Nispel
Brandon Nispel
Director & Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets

And then for Rod or Steve, do the assumptions for mid-four percent organic billing growth next year in the U. S. Include the assumption that churn excluding Sprint should be maintained in the sub-one percent range, which it's been the last couple of quarters? Thanks.

Steven Vondran
Steven Vondran
President & CEO at American Tower

Sure. So we don't have anyone rolling off a comprehensive agreement. When we structure those agreements, we typically try to structure the revenue toward the activity levels that we're seeing because we don't want to lose the time value of money. And so when you have a densification or when you have a phase building of a 5 gs network, you don't want to completely smooth it out. It smooths out the peaks and valleys some, but you don't want to lose the time value money for the earlier phases in that.

Steven Vondran
Steven Vondran
President & CEO at American Tower

So there's just a little bit of a step down there. But that also corresponds to an increase in new co locations in the densification phase of it. And so we in terms of the kind of mid-4s, we do expect our churn to be at the lower end of the historical range, which was 1% to 2%. We're still expecting to be at the lower end of that range, but we don't want to get too specific on what that is because it's too early. We're still waiting to size that up before we can give you exact numbers.

Brandon Nispel
Brandon Nispel
Director & Equity Research Analyst at KeyBanc Capital Markets

Great. Thanks for taking the questions.

Operator

Thank you. And our last question will come from the line of Richard Chum with JPMorgan.

Richard Choe
Richard Choe
Vice President at JP Morgan

Hi. I just wanted to get an update on the cost management initiatives. And I guess along with that, you pulled back on CapEx on some of the emerging markets. But how should we think about potential divestitures in some of these markets where you feel like you're not of enough scale or the trends could take a long time to turn around? Thank you.

Steven Vondran
Steven Vondran
President & CEO at American Tower

Sure. So we continue to work on cost management. And SG and A has been a particular focus for us and that's kind of the low hanging fruit and we're we continue to make progress on that. And so if you look at kind of cash SG and A excluding bad debt, kind of year over year September year to date 24 versus 23 excluding the bad debt, it's down about $17,000,000 or 3 percent over that period of time. So we're still seeing some savings there.

Steven Vondran
Steven Vondran
President & CEO at American Tower

Our cost management overall though is more comprehensive than that. We're looking at different ways to globalize parts of our business. That will take longer to realize some of the synergies that we think we can get in terms of looking at a more global approach to things like finance and operations, and we'll continue to explore those. So I do think over time, you'll see some savings. It probably won't be as rapid as the savings we had in SG and A, but we think we can continue to expand margins over time with that.

Steven Vondran
Steven Vondran
President & CEO at American Tower

I'm sorry, what was the second part of your question there, Richard? And then on I'm sorry, what was the second part of your question there, Richard?

Richard Choe
Richard Choe
Vice President at JP Morgan

And then on the emerging markets that I guess where you don't feel like you have enough scale or the Yes.

Steven Vondran
Steven Vondran
President & CEO at American Tower

So there's nothing I would point to, certainly nothing on the scale of India. In the quarter, we did sign an agreement to sell some third party land that we had in Australia and New Zealand. And we do have a few land portfolios, fiber businesses, things like that. But if we were able to realize the right price on, you might see us look at that. But there's no kind of active process that I would point you to on that.

Steven Vondran
Steven Vondran
President & CEO at American Tower

But just to kind of reiterate, we divested India, Mexico Fiber. We divested, we exited Poland. So we are continuing to look at the portfolio. And for us, the real question is, can someone else realize more value on a business than we can? And if they can, then that probably creates more value for our shareholders to monetize it.

Steven Vondran
Steven Vondran
President & CEO at American Tower

And so there's nothing specific that I would point to, but the Board and the management team is always looking at all aspects of the business, trying to figure out what the right solution is for each market.

Richard Choe
Richard Choe
Vice President at JP Morgan

Great. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. And I'll turn it back to our speakers for any closing remarks.

Adam Smith
Adam Smith
SVP, IR at American Tower

Thank you for everyone for joining the call today. Like Rod said earlier, if there's any questions regarding the representation of discontinued operations or if you have any other questions regarding the results and outlook in general, please feel free to reach out to Investor Relations. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. And ladies and gentlemen, this conference is available for replay. The replay information will be available on the American Tower website. That does conclude our conference for today. Thank you for your participation and for using AT and T event

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Analysts
Earnings Conference Call
American Tower Q3 2024
00:00 / 00:00

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