Horizon Technology Finance Q3 2024 Earnings Call Transcript

There are 10 speakers on the call.

Operator

Greetings, and welcome to the Horizon Technology Finance Corporation Third Quarter 20 24 Earnings Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. The question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce Megan Bacon.

Operator

Thank you. You may begin.

Speaker 1

Thank you, and welcome to Horizon Technology Finance Corporation's Q3 2024 Conference Call. Representing the company today are Rob Pomeroy, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer Jerry Michaud, President Dan Dvorcet, Chief Operating Officer and Chief Investment Officer and Dan Trolio, Chief Financial Officer. I would like to point out that the Q3 earnings press release and Form 10 Q are available on the company's website at horizontechfinance.com. Before we begin our formal remarks, I remind everyone that during this conference call, the company will make certain forward looking statements, including statements with regard to the future performance of the company. Words such as believes, expects, anticipates, intends or similar expressions are used to identify forward looking statements.

Speaker 1

These forward looking statements are subject to the inherent uncertainties in predicting future results and conditions. Certain factors could cause actual results to differ on a material basis from those projected in these forward looking statements, and some of these factors are detailed in the risk factor discussion in the company's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, including the company's Form 10 ks for the year ended December 31, 2023. The company undertakes no obligation to update or revise any forward looking statements whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise. At this time, I would like to turn the call over to Rob Pomeroy.

Speaker 2

Welcome everyone and thank you for your interest in Horizon. Today, we will update you on our performance and our current overall operating environment. Dan De Voorzins will take us through recent business and portfolio developments. Jerry will then discuss the current status of the venture lending market and Dan Trolia will detail our operating performance and financial condition. We will then take some questions.

Speaker 2

As we expected, our portfolio grew in the Q3, while we improved our credit profile. Our advisor and its experienced and expert team will remain focused on our portfolio's credit quality and originating high quality investments in order to maximize the value of our portfolio over the long term. Turning to our specific results for the quarter. We generated net investment income of $0.32 per share, $0.01 below our declared distribution level. As we grow our portfolio in the future quarters, it is our goal to deliver NII at or above our declared distributions over time.

Speaker 2

Based on our outlook and our undistributed spillover income, our Board declared regular monthly distributions of $0.11 per share through March of 2025. We once again achieved a portfolio yield on debt investments at or near the top the BDC industry. We enhanced our investment capacity by raising equity from our at the market program. Finally, we grew the size of our portfolio by 6% and increased our committed and approved backlog, providing us with a solid base of opportunities to further grow our portfolio. As the macro environment improves and the venture ecosystem recovers, we are continuing to work closely with and support our portfolio companies as we focus on our overall credit profile and maximizing the value of our stressed investments.

Speaker 2

As we close out 2024, we remain optimistic about Horizon's prospects for the following reasons. Our portfolio is growing and our portfolio yield remains among the industry's highest. Our pipeline is full with quality new customer opportunities. Our liquidity and balance sheet are strong. And finally, our markets are active and demand for venture debt capital is growing.

Speaker 2

We are uniquely capable of providing such capital and look forward to doing so. Finally, before I turn the call over, I want to comment on the strategic partnership that Monroe Capital announced last week. As you know, Monroe, the owner of our advisor, has announced its plans to partner with Wendell Group, a French Investment Company, through Wendell's purchase of an ownership interest in Monroe Capital as well as a $1,000,000,000 commitment of capital to support new and existing investment strategies of the Monroe platform, including venture debt. Monro and by extension our advisor will continue to operate independently and its investment process, strategy and operations will remain the same. As part of the Monro family, Horizon will benefit from the additional capital, scale and commitment of the partnership between Monroe and Wendell Group.

Speaker 2

The transaction is expected to close in the Q1 of 2025. Again, we appreciate your continued interest and support in the Horizon Technology Finance platform. I will now turn the call over to Dan, Jerry and Dan to give you the details of our Q3 results and progress. Dan?

Speaker 3

Thanks, Rob, and good morning to everyone. We grew our portfolio in the Q3 to $684,000,000 as we originated a number of high quality loans that more than offset prepayments and normal portfolio amortization. In the Q3, we funded 9 debt investments totaling $93,000,000 5 of these investments were in new portfolio companies, most of whom recently raised significant rounds of equity. As we noted on our last call, we are seeing an increasing and healthy volume of high quality opportunities in the second half of twenty twenty four and have the resources to convert these opportunities into new investments. We also continue to replenish and build our pipeline across our target sectors with the volume of new opportunities under review currently at its highest level in several quarters.

Speaker 3

Looking ahead to Q4, we expect our pipeline to produce another quarter of portfolio growth. Thus far in October, we have already been awarded 5 new venture loan transactions representing $90,000,000 in total commitments with much of that total to potentially fund in Q4. That said, we will always be disciplined in our approach to originating loans. During the quarter, we experienced 4 loan prepayments totaling $38,000,000 in prepaid principal. These prepayments are evidence of an improving venture market and help generate additional income.

Speaker 3

Although prepayments remain on the lower end of our historical levels, prepayments are a testament to our predictive pricing strategy where we structure and price our loans to take into account early prepayments. While we did not see any prepayments in the quarter that were driven by IPOs or M and A activity, In October, one of our portfolio companies, Cerabel completed its oversubscribed IPO and we are pleased that we continue to have a debt investment in Cerabel and that its stock is performing well. Our onboarding debt investment yield of 13.2% during the Q3 remained high compared to our historic levels. We expect to continue to generate strong on boarding yields with our current pipeline of opportunities, further demonstrating our capabilities to grow our portfolio profitably and continue to produce strong net investment income. Our debt portfolio yield of 15.9 percent for the quarter was once again one of the highest yielding debt portfolios in the BDC industry.

Speaker 3

Our ability to generate these industry leading yields continues to be a testament to the profitability of our venture lending strategy and our execution of that strategy across various market cycles and interest rate environments. As of September 30, we held warrant and equity positions in 103 portfolio companies with a fair value of $33,000,000 Structuring investments with warrants and equity rights is a key component of our venture debt strategy and a potential generator of shareholder value. In the Q3, we closed $173,000,000 in new loan commitments and approvals and ended the quarter with a committed and approved backlog of $190,000,000 compared to $138,000,000 at the end of the second quarter. We believe our pipeline combined with our committed backlog with most of our funding commitments subject companies achieving certain key milestones provides solid base to prudently grow our portfolio. As of quarter end, 91% of the fair value of our debt portfolio consists of 3 and 4 rated debt investments compared to 88% on June 30.

Speaker 3

9% of the fair value of our portfolio was rated 201, down from 12% on June 30. We made progress in several of our stressed investments using a variety of strategies to maximize current recoveries and create opportunities for potential future value. We will continue to work closely with companies across our portfolio collaborating with management teams and investors to generate optimal returns from our investments. To summarize, we remain optimistic about continuing to grow our portfolio in the quarters ahead. The current portfolio continues to benefit from elevated interest rates and we'll continue to work with our borrowers to maximize outcomes.

Speaker 3

With that, I'll turn it over to Jerry for a look at the overall venture industry and current environment.

Speaker 4

Thank you very much, Dan. Turning to the venture capital environment, according to PitchBook, approximately $38,000,000,000 was invested in VC backed companies in the 3rd quarter as the industry remains on pace to match 2023 total, though it is still well off the highs of 2021 2022. As we noted last quarter, there continues to be a backlog of venture capital backed technology and life science companies that are well positioned for an opportunity to complete an exit by way of M and A or an IPO. While Q3 total exit value of $10,000,000,000 was the lowest in 5 quarters, there were positive indications that the life science market in particular is starting to draw renewed interest from knowledgeable life science investors. There were 5 life science IPOs in September alone.

Speaker 4

In October, there have been 4 more life science IPOs, including Horizon's portfolio company, Cerevel. In addition, several large life science private equity funds were raised in the quarter led by Bain Capital's $2,500,000,000 Life Science Fund and Goldman Sachs $650,000,000 Life Science Fund. Big Pharma also has started becoming more interested in acquiring drug discovery companies as they have a need in the next few years to replace blockbuster drugs coming off patent with new drugs with high revenue growth potential. Over the next few quarters, the combination of lower interest rates and the lowering of emerging growth in life science company valuations should accelerate the demand for acquisitions or RPOs of high quality technology and life science companies. Based on our existing pipeline of over $1,000,000,000 of debt opportunities, Horizon believes there is a very strong opportunity in the coming quarters to provide venture debt financing to high quality technology and life science companies who will need additional liquidity as they evaluate the improving exit markets.

Speaker 4

While the overall VC ecosystem has been challenging for an extended period, we believe the conditions for an overall improvement in VC back company exit markets for the return of capital to LPs and for new fundraising are showing signs of turning the corner. The macroeconomic impacts of the continuation of lower interest rates, the global need for large tech companies and big pharma companies to remain competitive by acquiring new technologies combined with the specific technology achievements of VC backed tech companies and life science companies are beginning to create strong overall market conditions for the VC ecosystem leading into 2025. Accordingly, we remain optimistic about originating a number of new high quality venture debt investments in the weeks months ahead. Our optimism is bolstered by our robust pipeline today of about $1,200,000,000 a testament to our reputation, brand and sourcing capabilities. To sum up, we remain committed to sourcing high quality, well priced investments to grow our portfolio in the Q4 and in 2025, will generate sustainable NII and build additional long term value for our shareholders.

Speaker 4

We also remain committed to focus on maintaining credit quality and providing our portfolio companies with support as needed to ensure optimal investment outcomes. With that, I will now turn the call over to Dan Trolio.

Speaker 5

Thanks, Jerry, and good morning, everyone. We continue to strengthen our balance sheet in the Q3 and into October. First, we continue to opportunistically access our ATM program as we successfully and accretively sold over 1,700,000 shares in the quarter raising over $18,000,000 of equity capital. In addition, in October, we raised $20,000,000 of debt capital through the issuance of our 7 and 8 unsecured convertible notes due 2,031. The notes may only be converted into common stock at a price greater or equal to our NAV.

Speaker 5

We are always seeking to add flexibility and diversity to our capital sources and we believe the convertible notes achieve that. We will continue to focus on maintaining a strong balance sheet in the coming quarters in order to enable us to further grow the portfolio. As of September 30, we had $125,000,000 in available liquidity consisting of $87,000,000 in cash $38,000,000 in funds available to be drawn under our existing credit facilities. We currently have no borrowings outstanding under our $150,000,000 KeyBanc facility, dollars 181,000,000 outstanding on our $250,000,000 New York Life credit facility and $50,000,000 outstanding on our new $100,000,000 Nuveen credit facility leaving us with ample capacity to grow our portfolio of debt investments. Our debt to equity ratio stood at 1.28:one as of September 30 and netting out cash on our balance sheet, our net leverage was approximately 1:one which is well within our target leverage.

Speaker 5

Based on our cash position and our borrowing capacity on our credit facility, our potential new investment capacity as of September 30 was $356,000,000 Turning to our operating results. For the Q3, we earned investment income of $25,000,000 compared to $29,000,000 in the prior year period, primarily due to lower interest income and free income on our debt investment portfolio. Our debt investment portfolio on a net cost basis stood at $654,000,000 as of September 30, compared to $675,000,000 as of June 30, 2024. For the Q3 of 2024, we achieved on boarding yields of 13.2% compared to 13.7% achieved in the 2nd quarter. Our loan portfolio yield was 15.9% for the Q3 compared to 17.1% for last year's Q3.

Speaker 5

Total expenses for the quarter were $12,400,000 compared to $11,600,000 in the Q3 of 2023. Our interest expense increased to $7,900,000 from $7,100,000 in last year's Q3 due to an increase in our average borrowings. Our base management fee was $3,000,000 down from $3,200,000 in the prior year period. We received no performance based incentive fees in the 3rd quarter as we continue to experience the deferral of incentive fees otherwise earned by our advisor under our incentive fee and cap and deferral mechanism. The deferral in the quarter was driven by net realized and unrealized losses on our portfolio.

Speaker 5

We expect that the advisor will return to earning incentive fees in the coming quarters. Net investment income for the Q3 of 2020 was $0.32 per share compared to $0.36 per share in the Q2 of 2020 4 dollars and $0.53 per share for the Q3 of 2023. The company's undistributed spillover income as of September 30 was $1.27 per share. We anticipate that the size of our portfolio along with the portfolio's elevated interest rates and our predictive pricing strategy will enable us to continue generating NII that covers our distribution over time. While the macro environment is beginning to improve, we expect prepayment activities will remain modest in the near term.

Speaker 5

To summarize our portfolio activities for the Q3, new originations totaled $93,000,000 which were partially offset by $13,000,000 in scheduled principal payments and $40,000,000 in principal prepayments and partial pay downs. We ended the quarter with a total investment portfolio of $684,000,000 We expect to further grow our portfolio during the Q4. At September 30, the portfolio consisted of debt investments with 53 companies with an aggregate fair value of 633,000,000 dollars and a portfolio of warrant, equity and other investments in 108 companies with an aggregate fair value of $51,000,000 Based upon our outlook, our Board declared monthly distributions of $0.11 per share for January, February March 2025. We remain committed to providing our shareholders with distributions that are covered by our net investment income over time. Our NAV as of September 30 was $9.06 per share compared to $9.12 as of June 30, 2024 and $10.41 as of September 30, 2023.

Speaker 5

The $0.06 reduction in NAV on a quarterly basis was primarily due to our paid distribution and adjustments to fair value, partially offset by net investment income and accretive sales of equity. As we've consistently noted, nearly 100% of the outstanding principal amounts of our debt investments bear interest at floating rates with coupons that are structured to increase if interest rates rise with interest rate floors that will mitigate the impact of decreasing interest rates. This concludes our opening remarks. We'll be happy to take questions you may have at this time.

Operator

Thank And our first question comes from Douglas Harter, UBS.

Speaker 6

Thanks. Hoping you could just give us a bit of an update on the non accrual loans and kind of the how we should think about the timelines for resolutions on those?

Speaker 3

So this is Dan Dvorcet. There are we're working on a couple of different strategies for the non accruals. Some of them have been resolved here in Q3 as you see in the numbers with either acquisitions or other transactions. There's a couple others that we're working on in real time that will take a little bit more time to resolve. I think that there'll be some of it will be resolved here in Q4 and a couple of others might linger into the first half of twenty twenty five, but each one is its own specific timeline and strategy.

Speaker 6

Great. And I guess just how are you seeing the ones that you resolved in Q3, kind of if you could just give us a little more detail on kind of how those resolved versus kind of your expectations going into the quarter?

Speaker 3

Sure. So one of them, Nexe, was the assets were sold to a 3rd party buyer, a high quality buyer and that company is operating the company and we marked the assets based upon the transaction that occurred. We have debt and equity in the new company. So that was that one. Evelo, Jerry, you want to talk about Evelo a little bit?

Speaker 2

Yes. Sure.

Speaker 4

So Evelo is a life science company has significant life science assets that they are looking to monetize. And so they put all those assets into a holding company. There were a number of transactions that are underway right now. 1 actually did close in the Q3 and all the proceeds that will be coming from those transactions, Some of those proceeds are contractual due to Ovelo over time. They will flow to Horizon to continue to pay down our loan based on our senior secured lien position in the company.

Speaker 4

This was a way to kind of consolidate the assets. Like I said, there's there was one transaction that closed in Q3. There's another one, very similar transaction that is expected to close in Q4. And then there's a separate asset, where we're also in the process of finalizing documentation for a Q4 closing. And we'll get a combination of some upfront proceeds, contractual proceeds do specifically when I say us, Avelo will get them.

Speaker 4

Those will flow to us through the transactions. And then some of them in addition to contractual obligations, Evelo has significant equity positions in the transactions that

Speaker 5

are being completed.

Speaker 4

So they have a very diverse asset base. So we're trying to do everything we can to maximize the value of those assets.

Speaker 6

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Bryce Roe, B. Riley Securities.

Speaker 7

Thanks. Good morning. Wanted to maybe start with the environment. I think last quarter, you all talked about kind of an improving pipeline and then improving backdrop from a market perspective and certainly looks like that came to fruition in the Q3. And based on Dan, based on your comments, it sounds like that's kind of continued into October.

Speaker 7

So trying to maybe handicap the deal flow over coming months. And if you could talk a little bit more about the pipeline and how it's building, it sounds again, it sounds like you've got some tangible deals that have already closed here in the Q4. And so wanted to just get a feel for beyond October, how the market is shaping up and how your pipeline is coming together?

Operator

Sure, Bryce.

Speaker 3

Yes, the market we believe is improving. We've been signaling that on our last several calls. That was our expectation based upon signs that we saw in terms of portfolio companies resetting valuations, getting significant rounds of equity and more recently some early signs of life in the exit window. I think it's still too early to say that it's consistent and Cerabel and some others. So I do think the market is improving and we believe that we're in for some strong vintages here in 2024 2025, but we're not there yet.

Speaker 3

You're right, we did get we are building the pipeline with those quality opportunities, recently raised equity, strong performers. We have had some awards in October. I want to clarify those awards that I referenced in my scripted remarks hadn't closed yet. We're working through the process on those. All of them can and should fund in Q4, but some might be delayed or some might fall off.

Speaker 3

We do expect Q4 to be a growth quarter, But beyond that level of guidance, I don't have a good feel at this stage for what those numbers would be. But the pipeline is growing. It's at its strongest position that it's been in a while and we are competing hard for quality opportunities.

Speaker 7

Okay. That's helpful. And so as we kind of think about that outlook, even though it's a bit murky, so to speak, how do you all think about the balance sheet at this point? I mean, you've had a decent level of cash going on the balance sheet going on the last year really. Do you expect to draw that down?

Speaker 7

And I'm kind of thinking about that in relation to where NII is relative to the dividend and kind of couple that with the fact that you haven't earned the incentive fee or haven't had an incentive expense for the last couple of quarters. How do you think about putting that cash to work and possibly getting back to a point where you are covering the dividend?

Speaker 5

Yes. So I think I mentioned every quarter when we go into the quarter, we look at the committed backlog, what we expect to fund, where we think awards will come in during the quarter and what we'll be able to fund from that and look to our capital sources, right? Use the cash on the balance sheet as you mentioned, look at the debt facilities and look at our ability to raise equity and we try to plan that as best as possible in the most efficient way. At times deals will slip. We'll have late prepayments and so the cash will fluctuate from quarter to quarter.

Speaker 5

It's always just a snapshot that we're reporting. So that's how we think about the balance sheet. As far as the NII, just reiterate that the venture debt portfolio does generate prepayments on an annual basis. Where they come in on a quarterly basis will fluctuate. And so quarter over over quarter will be at different levels.

Speaker 5

But if you look back historically, we've been able to cover our distribution for the past 6 years and we're on a good trend to the first 9 months of this year to do that again. And I think I may have forgotten your other question, but

Speaker 7

No, I think that covered it, Dan. I appreciate it. I did have one more, just around, I guess, one of the non accruals that's still sitting on non accrual, maybe Dan or Jerry, you could address this. But it looked like Swift was the fair value mark improved dramatically here in the quarter. Can you just talk about what pushed that up and assuming that that maybe is on a path back to accrual status?

Speaker 3

Sure. Swift is a company that's been in our portfolio for a couple of years, very strong product, very strong investors, victim of the market environment earlier this year where there were issues with continuing fundraising. So the company has been operational all along even though it was on non accrual, it was having some precarious cash position. So we put it on non accrual while we're working through that. We are working with 2 very high quality life science investors to bring in capital this company.

Speaker 3

We've been we brought the capital has come in during the Q3. We are in the process of closing a longer term transaction that will stabilize this company and set it up for a long term performance.

Speaker 7

Okay. And I assume there's some the potential for accrued interest that I guess hasn't been paid that could come back in if it does come back to accrual status. Is that the right way to think about it?

Speaker 3

So we're working on a variety of strategies and the accrued interest and the final payments and the balances are all part of the picture. But yes, that will be part of the solution. Okay. Thank you, guys.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Christopher Nolan, Ladenburg Thalmann.

Speaker 8

Hi, guys. The ATM, you guys have been hitting it pretty hard last few quarters. What dictates the pace of shares sold?

Speaker 5

So again, yes, when we look at our capital sources each quarter, we try to balance that out in comparison to what we believe will fund in the quarter. You always can't match it perfectly, but with the volume that's trading in the ATM with our debt facilities, capacity and other availabilities that will dictate how much we determine we want to raise through the ATM.

Speaker 8

And so I guess and I missed the early part of the call, I just have overlapping calls. It seems like the market is becoming stronger for you guys. And so going forward, should we expect more share issuances from the ATM given your indications of improving loan demand?

Speaker 5

I think again that will fluctuate. What we have been doing this past year is probably a good barometer to think about going forward.

Speaker 8

Okay. And I guess the final question is your stock prices have come down off highs earlier in the year. You guys have any plan or strategy in terms of trying to improve that, please?

Speaker 5

We always look at stock price, talk about stock price. There are different things that people have opinions that you can do to affect the stock price. We're really more focused on delivering performance for our shareholders, growing the portfolio, generating a consistent NII and we believe that will take care of the stock price.

Speaker 8

Great. Final question. Any consideration of doing off balance sheet vehicles or RIAs or anything like that?

Speaker 5

We do look at that consistently and it's one we will continue to look at going forward. As of right now, we don't have anything in the plans.

Speaker 8

Thanks, Ben.

Operator

Thank you. And our next question comes from Paul Johnson, KBW.

Speaker 9

Yes, good morning. Thanks for taking my questions. Just going back to Bryce's question a little bit on just NII generation and covering the distribution. So when you say your goal is to cover the distribution with NII or when you're kind of looking forward with your outlook, does that include the accrual of the incentive fee, the full accrual of the incentive fee? Just want to be clear on

Speaker 5

that. Yes. So when we do forecast that out, we take everything in consideration, cost of capital, our yield, the growth in the balance sheet and earning back the incentive fee over a period of time, where we think we'll get back to that towards the end of next year at full amount.

Speaker 9

Got it. Okay. So the end of next year is you're kind of looking at potentially getting back to the full accrual rate?

Speaker 5

To the full amount, yes. We think we'll gradually start building back to the advisor. We'll start earning the incentive fee gradually over the next few quarters to probably about 100% towards the end of next year.

Speaker 9

Got it. And then on the spillover income, I think it was $1.27 you said. I mean, what would you like that to be at, I guess, kind of at a minimum? Do you have any sort of target for where you would like to kind of carry spillover income at?

Speaker 5

We don't look at it as a target. We look at what's contractually, we can carry forward. We look at ways to be able to distribute that out to the shareholders through supplemental distributions and try to manage it through those 2.

Speaker 9

Got you. And then, I mean, just kind of given the higher level of the realized losses taken this quarter, I realize some of it may have to do with restructuring of investments, which might get more complicated. But I guess it's a little surprising to see the level of realized losses taken this quarter and the spillover did not really change much quarter over quarter. So is there anything, I guess, flowing through those investments as they're resolved that would affect spillover level kind of to your estimation?

Speaker 5

Yes. So the large realized loss for the quarter was generated from the completion of the Nexi transaction Dan mentioned and that really just flipped from an unrealized loss to a realized loss where it had a very little impact on NAV quarter over quarter. Net realized, unrealized was about $4,000,000 down for the quarter. Then the spillover is impacted by the operating income NII compared to the distribution.

Speaker 9

Thanks for that. And last question from me. I guess, on new investments, it sounds like you're expecting decent amount of growth going into the 4th quarter. There's a good amount of activity this quarter. So where are you guys seeing, I guess, yields, core yields, coupon rate yields on new investments.

Speaker 9

Have you seen any kind of compression in spreads there?

Speaker 3

So, I haven't seen a compression in spreads necessarily on a portfolio basis. Certainly, each transaction merits its own pricing consideration and structural consideration. But across the portfolio, yields have maintained pretty nicely. Obviously, the 50 basis point cut in index rates earlier is affecting overall yields. But over time, we expect the venture market to trade in the yields that we've traditionally seen.

Speaker 3

And so far, that's been the case and we expect that to continue yields across on a portfolio basis. I think our portfolio yield year over year for many, many years has been quite strong and I think that's going to remain a strength of ours.

Speaker 9

Appreciate it. That's all for me. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. There are no further questions. I would like to now turn the floor back to Robert Pomeroy, Chairman and CEO for closing remarks.

Speaker 2

Thank you all for joining us this morning. We appreciate your continued interest and support in Horizon, and we look forward to speaking with you again soon. This will conclude our call.

Operator

Thank you. This does conclude today's teleconference. We thank you for your participation. You may disconnect your lines at this time.

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