NASDAQ:UTHR United Therapeutics Q3 2024 Earnings Report $286.94 +1.75 (+0.61%) As of 03:28 PM Eastern This is a fair market value price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. Earnings HistoryForecast United Therapeutics EPS ResultsActual EPS$6.39Consensus EPS $6.16Beat/MissBeat by +$0.23One Year Ago EPS$5.38United Therapeutics Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$748.90 millionExpected Revenue$722.62 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$26.28 millionYoY Revenue Growth+22.90%United Therapeutics Announcement DetailsQuarterQ3 2024Date10/30/2024TimeBefore Market OpensConference Call DateWednesday, October 30, 2024Conference Call Time9:00AM ETUpcoming EarningsUnited Therapeutics' Q1 2025 earnings is scheduled for Tuesday, April 29, 2025, with a conference call scheduled on Wednesday, April 30, 2025 at 9:00 AM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)SEC FilingEarnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by United Therapeutics Q3 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrOctober 30, 2024 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 11 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good morning, and welcome to the United Therapeutics Corporation Third Quarter 2024 Earnings Webcast. My name is Dave, and I will be your conference operator today. All participants on the call portion of this webcast will be in a listen only mode until the question and answer portion of this earnings call. Please note this call is being recorded. I would now like to turn the webcast over to Dewey Steadman, Head of Investor Relations at United Therapeutics. Speaker 100:00:43Thank you, Dave, and good morning. It's my pleasure to welcome you to the United Therapeutics Corporation Q3 2024 earnings webcast. Remarks today will include forward looking statements representing our expectations or beliefs regarding future events, and these statements involve risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially. Our latest SEC filings, including Forms 10 ks and 10 Q, contain additional information on these risks and uncertainties, and we assume no obligation to update these forward looking statements. Today's remarks may discuss the progress and results of clinical trials or other developments with respect to our products, and these remarks are intended solely to educate investors and are not intended to serve as the basis for medical decision making or to suggest that any products are safe and effective for any unapproved or investigational uses. Speaker 100:01:33Full prescribing information for the products are available on our website. Accompanying me on today's call are Doctor. Martine Rothblatt, our Chairperson and Chief Executive Officer Michael Binkowitz, our President and Chief Operating Officer James Edgemond, our Chief Financial Officer and Treasurer Doctor. Lee Peterson, our Executive Vice President of Product Development and Xeno transplantation and Pat Poisson, our Executive Vice President of Technical Operations. Note that Pat Poisson and I will participate in a fireside chat session and 1 on 1 meetings at the UBS Global Healthcare Conference outside of Los Angeles on November 12. Speaker 100:02:10Along with Harry Silvers from our Investor Relations team, I will be at the Oppenheimer Rare Disease Day in New York City on December 12. And finally, Martine Rothblatt will present at the 43rd Annual JPMorgan Healthcare Conference in San Francisco in January. Our scientific, commercial and medical affairs teams will present at the phenomenal HOPE, 2024 on December 6 in Boston and at the Pulmonary Vascular Research Institute Annual Congress in Rio de Janeiro in late January. Now I will turn the call the webcast over to Martine for an overview of our Q3 2024 financial results and the business activities of United Therapeutics. Martin? Speaker 200:02:51Thank you, Dewey, and good morning, everyone. We have slides available for reference, and I encourage you to review those at your leisure. I'm not going to speak directly to the slides. United Therapeutics is a momentum story. We continue to reach and exceed our goals quarter after quarter, year after year in all three waves of growth foundation, innovation and revolution. Speaker 200:03:17For our foundation wave, driven by our current commercial business, United Therapeutics hosted its 6th consecutive quarter of record revenue led by double digit growth for Tyvaso both nebulized and DPI, Orenitram and Unituxan. We also have a record number of patients on Tyvaso DPI, Orenitram and Remodulin. We remain confident in the potential for our current commercial business to continue to drive double digit revenue growth in the near and midterm as our innovation wave starts to reach the market. Our innovation wave is on the cusp of generating significant registration phase data with the TETON-two study of nebulized Tyvaso in idiopathic pulmonary fibrosis expected to report top line data in the second half of twenty twenty five. As we progress toward full enrollment for TETON-one by the end of this year, data for that study will not be far behind. Speaker 200:04:16In 2026, we expect to complete our advanced outcome study of Ralinepag in PAH. And finally, in 2025, we expect FDA action on our recently submitted premarket approval application for our centralized lung evaluation system or CLS ex vivo lung perfusion technology. Beyond our record setting commercial performance, we expect a steady stream of clinical data reads and regulatory actions through the next 36 months, setting our company up well for continued growth through the balance of the decade. Our Revolution Wave is also making tangible progress toward reality with our Phase 1 study for Mira liver ELAP now underway, the first clinical study of a bioengineered organ alternative. We expect data from this initial safety study in 2025. Speaker 200:05:10Also within our Revolution wave, we recently received feedback from the FDA regarding our IND for our ukidney10 gene edited porcine xeno kidney and we expect to file our IND shortly for what will be the first clinical study of a xeno organ. We look forward to sharing more details on our clinical trial design and commercial opportunity in the future following acceptance of our IND. To close, I want to reiterate that our momentum is strong and growing. We have double digit revenue growth our thriving commercial business. We have several important data reads and potential regulatory decisions over the next 36 months and we're moving into the clinic with revolutionary organ alternative technologies. Speaker 200:05:55In short, there is no other biotech with the vision, grit and determination as United Therapeutics. I'll now turn the call over to Chief Financial Officer and Treasurer, James Edgemont, to give a summary of our recently completed accelerated share repurchase program and our capital allocation priorities. James? Speaker 300:06:19Thank you, Martine. I'd like to provide an update on our capital allocation strategy, specifically regarding our accelerated share repurchase program or ASR that was announced in late March 2024 earlier this year. As you recall, we entered into an ASR agreement with Citi to repurchase $1,000,000,000 of UTHR common stock. During the Q3, Citi successfully completed the overall ASR program, having repurchased a total of approximately 3,500,000 shares at an average repurchase price of approximately $2.82 which repurchased shares we are currently holding as treasury stock on our balance sheet. The approximately 3,500,000 repurchase shares represent approximately 7% of our outstanding shares as of the program's initiation date. Speaker 300:07:17Despite this overall reduction in UT's outstanding share count, liquidity in our stock has increased as reflected by our average daily trading volume being at its highest level ever through the end of September. Since the program's announcement in late March 2024, our stock appreciated 47% through September 30. The completion of this ASR program demonstrates our commitment over the last 12 months to all of our capital allocation priorities. First, through our innovative clinical development pipeline as well as CapEx to support our DPI manufacturing facility in North Carolina and our clinical scale xenotransplantation DPF facilities in Virginia and Minnesota 2nd, through the acquisition of IVIVA and Miramatrix as well as a in licensing agreement to support our small molecule business and finally, through successful completion of this ASR. Looking ahead, we remain committed to all three capital allocation priorities, which in order are first to invest in our commercial and R and D opportunities through P and L spend as well as capital outlays for our commercial and clinical facilities. Speaker 300:08:40Our second priority is to pursue intelligent business and corporate development opportunities that enhance our rare disease focus and complement our organ alternative initiatives like bolt on M and A and in license opportunities and our 3rd priority, to return capital to shareholders like share repurchases. And we'll continue to consider all three priorities when deploying our financial capital. Our healthy balance sheet and robust cash flow generation driven by our growing commercial portfolio enable us to continue to pursue these capital allocation priorities in a thoughtful manner. Moreover, we remain in a strong position to meet our mid- and long term goals that set ourselves up for future growth across our innovative pipeline with Tyvaso in pulmonary fibrosis and ralinepag in pulmonary hypertension and our revolutionary organ alternative program. On a separate note, in the Q3, we recorded under selling, general and administrative expenses a litigation accrual of $65,100,000 in connection with a potential judgment in the Stendoz case. Speaker 300:09:56While this liability could be adjusted up or down in the future as this litigation progresses, it should not be considered a recurring expense. I'll now turn the call over to our President, Michael Benkowitz, who will give an overview of our commercial performance. Michael? Speaker 400:10:16Thank you, James, and good morning, everyone. Today, we are excited and pleased to report another quarter of record breaking revenue, achieving a remarkable $749,000,000 which represents a 23% growth from the Q3 of 2023. Achieving this $3,000,000,000 revenue run rate just 8 quarters after surpassing the $2,000,000,000 run rate mark is a significant milestone for our company, something we have been really focused on hitting since the beginning of the year. Before I provide the usual product performance overview, I want to express my thanks and congratulations to my fellow Unitarians for their incredible effort and success. Total Tyvaso revenue for the Q3 was $434,000,000 marking a 33% increase over the previous year. Speaker 400:11:04This growth was driven by continued uptake of Tyvaso DPI, growth in utilization by PHILD patients, an increase in pricing and enhanced commercial utilization following the implementation of the Part D redesign provisions under the Inflation Reduction Act. Tyvaso has solidified its position as the number Act. Tyvaso has solidified its position as the number one prescribed prostacyclin treatment in the U. S. Across both nebulizer and dry powder inhaler delivery systems. Speaker 400:11:27Referral and start patterns remain very robust and the franchise saw record commercial and total patients, reinforcing our confidence in the durability of our growth profile. We're also seeing the benefit of the sales force expansion and realignment that went into effect at the beginning of this year. Through the Q3, we have grown our prescriber base by almost 15% while still maintaining prescribing depth, measured as those physicians with 3 or more Tyvaso patients. 40% of these new prescribers are ILD physicians, which is important to grow the PH ILD market and then eventually the IPF and markets if our clinical trials and those indications are successful. We also reported record revenue for Orenitram at $113,000,000 for the 3rd quarter, representing a 23% growth from the same period last year. Speaker 400:12:23This increase was driven by increased demand, higher commercial utilization and pricing adjustments. As with Tyvaso, referral and start patterns remain strong and we ended the quarter with a record number of commercial and total patients. We are seeing increased utilization of the EXPEDITE induction protocol where PAH patients initiate treprostinil therapy on Remodulin and then transition to Orenitram. Over time, we could see the average Orenitram dose per patient increase as patients are able to reach a therapeutic dose more quickly with this approach. Worldwide revenue for Remodulin was 128,000,000 dollars a slight decline of 2% from last year due to international order timing. Speaker 400:13:06However, U. S. Revenue grew by 3% year over year setting a new record for total U. S. Patients on therapy. Speaker 400:13:12And for the 1st 9 months of the year, U. S. Remodulin revenue was up about 12% from the same period in 2023, reflecting the continued strength of the brand despite competition on multiple fronts. Looking deeper, U. S. Speaker 400:13:25Remodulin referral and start patterns remain very strong. Remodulin remains the most prescribed parenteral prostacyclin in the U. S. With sustained demand for both intravenous and subcutaneous administration. And this comes 5 years after the first launch of a generic version of Remodulin. Speaker 400:13:44Finally, Unituxan also achieved record revenue of $61,000,000 for the Q3, up 19% from the prior year quarter. U. S. Revenue for Unituxan was $58,000,000 driven by both price and volume increases. This growth demonstrates the product's strong market presence and the effectiveness of our commercial strategies. Speaker 400:14:05To wrap up, we are extremely proud of our achievements this quarter, driven by strong performance from each of our commercial products. We are well positioned to continue providing these important medicines to our patients and delivering value to our shareholders. Martine, I'll turn things back to you to run the Q and A. Martin, do we still have you? Operator00:14:42We have lost connection with Martin. Speaker 100:14:45Okay. Speaker 400:14:47So, do you want to run the Speaker 100:14:49Yes, I'll run the Q and A. Operator, can we have our first question, please? Operator00:14:54Yes. We will now begin the question and answer session. Our first question comes from Joseph Thorm with TD Cowen. Please go ahead. Speaker 500:15:18Hi there. Good morning. Congrats on the progress and thank you for taking my question. Maybe a little bit of a follow-up to the expedite question. We have heard since WinRiver's launch that some patients are able to deescalate from Remodulin down to oral Orenitram. Speaker 500:15:32I guess, is this something that you are seeing? Obviously, Orenitram was strong in the quarter. And patients that do kind of titrate off of Remodulin onto the Orenitram, are they going to higher doses like what we were seeing in the expedite? And maybe how would you expect this to impact the revenue line maybe going forward? Thank you. Speaker 400:15:55Yes, I'll go ahead, Michael. Speaker 200:15:58Michael, go ahead, Michael. Michael, can you take that? Speaker 400:16:01Martine, you're back. Okay, good. Speaker 500:16:02Yes, so I think 2 parts to Speaker 400:16:04that question, Joe. Thanks for the question. I think on the first part in terms of the, I guess, the down titration off of Remodulin to Orenitram. I wouldn't say this is a trend yet or, I guess a widely used practice. I mean we have heard at the margins that there's some patients are able to do that. Speaker 400:16:23But I think the jury is still out on whether that's going to become like a widespread trend. I would kind of point back to kind of how to Remodulin performance during the quarter, which is certainly showing that that brand is continuing to grow and there's certainly still a place for Remodulin and parenteral prostacyclin therapy in PAH. Regarding expedite and the transition from Remodulin to Orenitram, and the short answer to that is yes, we do expect higher doses with Orenitram as a result of the expedite protocol. We're seeing I'd say higher average dose, right. Because the idea is that you start a patient on Remodulin, you titrate them up to a range of a dose and then you're able to transition them over to a retitram and you're able to get them up to a therapeutic dose in some cases as soon as a month, but I would say in kind of a 1 to 2 month range, which would normally take if you're starting de novo, it could take up to 6 months. Speaker 400:17:23And then from there, depending on the patients to how the patients doing, you can continue to titrate up. So as a result of that, as we see more patients coming to Orenitram from Remodulin, we're going to see that average dose for Orenitram to continue to tick up over time. Operator00:17:45And the next question comes from Rowanna Ruiz with Leerink Partners. Speaker 600:17:55So I noticed that the nebulized Tyvaso had pretty robust growth in the quarter along with DPI. I was just curious if you could elaborate on some of the drivers behind that. Did that include some new patient starts? And was there a piece of that where if you're observing, are there more patients transitioning from nebulizer to DPI eventually? Speaker 200:18:16Thanks, Roanna. Michael, you definitely have the most knowledge of us on that. So if you could answer? Sure. Speaker 400:18:22Well, I think some of the growth some of the year over year growth in the nebulized Tyvaso was a function of some of the destocking that we saw last year. And so that maybe explains some of the delta. But I would say generally from a trending standpoint, I think we've reached kind of a really nice kind of steady state in terms of the mix of DPI and nebulizer. It's roughly 2 thirds, 1 thirds in favor of DPI. And we're starting to see really both of those growing. Speaker 400:18:55I would say transitions back and forth between the products nebulizer to DPI or DPI to nebulizer, it's pretty marginal at this point. I mean, we are seeing some of that, but not a lot. I mean, I think we saw when we launched into DPI, we did see obviously a significant number of nebulizer patients transition over to DPI, but that's largely played out. So it's really, I think, more case by case. How is the patient doing on one delivery system versus the other? Speaker 400:19:23And then the nice thing about our portfolio is the doctors can toggle back and forth as they need to depending on how the patient is doing. Speaker 200:19:31Perfect. Thank you so much, Michael. Operator, next question. Operator00:19:36And the next question comes from Andreas Argers with Oppenheimer. Please go ahead. Speaker 700:19:44Good morning and thanks for taking our questions and congrats on another solid quarter. We have seen a couple of capital allocation questions, just 1 or 2 parts here. But can you talk about Tyvaso and Tyvaso VPI manufacturing capacity needs to support IPF? Will additional investment need to take place? And then along the share repurchase program, how are you thinking about potential to run another program, especially given the lead up into the IPF? Speaker 700:20:14Thanks. Speaker 200:20:15Okay. Thanks for those questions. And by the way, thanks to Oppenheimer as well for convening a rare disease day, but we'll be very proud to present that. Our whole community appreciates that. Those two questions are best addressed by James. Speaker 200:20:31So James, can you take it from here? Speaker 300:20:34Yes. Thanks, Martin. So Andreas, good to hear your voice this morning. On your first question, which I think was capital allocation, but really related to production of DPI relative to an approval in IPF. And we do not expect to have or let me say it differently. Speaker 300:20:53We expect to be able to support an approval of IPF with DPI. So our production facility in North Carolina, which we talked about previously, a $500,000,000 investment in a new manufacturing facility for Tyvaso DPI. And the thinking of expanding that manufacturing capacity was not only to continue serving the existing patient population, but be in a strong position to support new indications that would use DPI going forward. So we don't expect any we expect to be able to support that, don't expect any shortages or anything like that going forward at all. The second question with respect to the share repurchase, As I mentioned in my opening remarks, we did do the $1,000,000,000 ASR in 2024, which was completed in September. Speaker 300:21:53And as I also mentioned, over the last 12 months, we've actually demonstrated our commitment to all three capital allocation priorities through various opportunities. And going forward, we're going to continue to thoughtfully evaluate the deployment of capital in all our capital allocation priorities going forward. So investing in ourselves and our facilities through thoughtful corporate development, but also through potentially ASRs. But again, at this point, we're not calling specifically out an ASR going forward, but it's going to be in our catalyst going forward as we look at all our capital deployment. So Martine, back to you. Speaker 200:22:36Okay. Thank you, James. That's I love how you covered all 3.60 degrees for that question. Operator00:22:45And the next question comes from Roger Song with Jefferies. Speaker 800:22:54Maybe my question relates to the Modulant. Since your sales is pretty reaching a pretty good kind of steady state with a slight growth. Just curious about the nuance between IV versus subcu against the generics? And then should we see some regrowth from here? Thank you. Speaker 200:23:14Okay, Roger. Thank you for your question and the compliments on the pullout quarter. Yes, and thank you also for recognizing the growth in the romodulin patients. I think Mike would have all of the answers at his fingertips to the questions you asked. Mike? Speaker 400:23:33Sure. Thanks. Yes. Thanks, Martine. Thanks for the question, Roger. Speaker 400:23:37So with respect to Remodulin, I mean, I think we have ever since we were on the cusp of a generic launch, been very confident about the durability and resilience of the brand through generic competition and then even through the introduction of other medicines in PAH. I think if you talk to doctors today, they still think that that is one of the go to drugs, one of the best drugs that we have at our disposal to treat pulmonary hypertension patients. I think the limitation of it being more widely used is one is patients are a little bit reluctant to go on a pump before they have to. And there are other options available. So naturally, they're going to want to try and experiment or use these less invasive options before moving to Olodulin. Speaker 400:24:33But PAH is a progressive disease. There is no cure. And so we believe that really almost all patients at some point are going to need parental prostacyclin. So that's really why over time we've been very, I think, confident in the durability of the Remodulin product. And we continue to feel that that will be the case going forward. Speaker 400:24:55And so as we look out into the future, we continue to believe that it will continue to perform at current levels. As we talked about what I think Joe's question, I mean there could be some toggling back and forth between remodeling and our Rent A Tram, starting our Remodulin, going to Orenitram, moving up to Orenitram. But even those patients at some point may need to go on, on Remodulin. So you may see some variability there over the next few years as the expedite approach continues to take hold. We have another trial that is about to complete called the ARTISAN study where it's similar to EXPEDITE and that we're starting a patient on Remodulin. Speaker 400:25:34We're actually keeping them on for a longer period of time. And the idea is we're able to return the hemodynamics to a normal level and then transition those patients over to Orenitram as a maintenance drug. So we continue to feel very strongly that there will be a place for Remodulin in the PAH armamentarium now and in the future. Speaker 200:25:57Excellent, Mike. I love when you use the word armamentarium. That describes us some Speaker 400:26:03of the key culprits. What am I saying? Speaker 200:26:05Yes. Well, it's like hits UT right at the bull's eye. Perfect. Operator, next question? Operator00:26:15Yes. And the next question comes from Jessica Fye with JPMorgan. Please go ahead. Speaker 600:26:22Great. Good morning, guys. Thanks for taking my question and congrats on what sounds like some favorable pre IND feedback for the 10 gene edited kidney. Can you elaborate on some of that pre IND feedback you got from FDA? And maybe talk about how we should think about the design and goals for initial clinical trial? Speaker 200:26:40Sure, Jessica. And so nice to hear your voice this morning as well. We have on our call Doctor. Lee Peterson. She's in charge of all genotransplantation. Speaker 200:26:50So Lee, could you address Jessica's question? Speaker 900:26:54Yes, sure. Thanks for the question. You're right. We did receive some pre IND feedback from the FDA on our uKIDNEY, which is the 10 gene edited porcine xeno kidney. And we're working very hard to submit that IND shortly. Speaker 900:27:17We did propose the clinical study design. We had a few proposals there. But unfortunately, we haven't I mean, we really don't want to share all of the details until it's officially cleared by FDA, which is IND clearance. So, we're really looking forward to sharing that design with you later, but we need to get that IND cleared first. Speaker 200:27:46Thank you so much, Lee. Great answer. Operator, next question please. Operator00:27:50And the next question comes from Ash Verma with UBS. Please go ahead. Speaker 1000:27:56Great. Thanks for taking my question. So just good to see you get to the $3,000,000,000 annualized revenue run rate. I know you had previously outlined this goal of reaching $4,000,000,000 run rate exiting 2025. Are you still on track to get there? Speaker 1000:28:13And then secondly, in the last quarter, you made a mention of potential rebating contracting. I know the competitor launch has since then been pushed out to May next year, but have you already rebated some book of your business preemptively? Thanks. Speaker 200:28:30Okay. So maybe best would be to have Mike talk about the competitor environment. And with regard to the revenue run rate, it is actually quite amazing that we have doubled from a $1,500,000,000 to a $3,000,000,000 revenue run rate so rapidly. As we've mentioned throughout the call and in the earnings release and actually as we've been forecasting for the past several quarters, we feel very comfortable continuing our double digit annual revenue growth based on all of the products that we have in our portfolio and already approved and then in the pipeline and then with the 3 waves that we talk about. So if you just do the math, you take $3,000,000,000 revenue run rate and you keep growing it at a double digit rate very quickly, you will be able to get to a 4, 5, 6 and beyond revenue run rates and that's what we're targeting. Speaker 200:29:35Mike, can you talk about the competitor environment question? Speaker 400:29:40Sure. And Ash, I think your question was specifically around some of the payer contracts we've entered into or in the process of entering into. So we did have some that started This is mainly on the Part D side where we haven't with the Part D payers where we historically have not contracted. So we had a couple that went effective July 1. We have a couple I think that kick in October 1. Speaker 400:30:07And then I think one that kicks in January 1st. So by January 1st they will all be in place. So we did see a little bit higher gross to net on DPI in Q3. But as you can see, we're clearly able to kind of grow through that. We think entering into these contracts now positions us very favorably for when a competitor comes to the market because we will at that point have rebate dollars already flowing through the payers and we have parity and non disadvantaged language. Speaker 400:30:42So I think they're going to be reluctant to just turn those off overnight. And so we thought it was important to kind of get those contracts in place. And I just have to give a really big shout out to our market access team. They did a phenomenal job in negotiating these contracts and really I think negotiating them on terms that are very favorable to United Therapeutics. Speaker 200:31:05Perfect. Thanks, Michael. Operator, we have time for one last question. Operator00:31:12We are not showing any further questions at this time. Speaker 200:31:15Absolutely. We've blown them away. Fantastic. Well, just to wrap up here, as we mentioned at the beginning, United Therapeutics is a very strong momentum story. As a bit of a science nerd, I've got to point out that momentum is mass times velocity, and our mass is truly formidable. Speaker 200:31:36We have a huge vault of intellectual property. We've got over 1,000 top of their game science, marketing and allied health professionals among our employee base. And others have pointed out that we have a fortress balance sheet. So all of that is really, as Michael would say, an armamentarium of math. And then in terms of velocity, UT really prides itself at moving at an entrepreneurial speed and the speed that we're moving in is in the direction of ever greater innovation and then ultimately a revolutionary a revolution in manufactured organ and organ alternative products. Speaker 200:32:20Thank you so much for participating in the call today, and I'll turn it back to the operator to wrap it up. Operator00:32:26Thank you for participating in today's United Therapeutics Corporation earnings webcast. A rebroadcast of this webcast will be available for replay for 1 week by visiting the Events and Presentations section of the United Therapeutics Investor Relations website at ir. 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The company offers Tyvaso DPI, an inhaled dry powder via pre-filled and single-use cartridges; Tyvaso, an inhaled solution via ultrasonic nebulizer; Remodulin (treprostinil) injection to treat patients with pulmonary arterial hypertension (PAH) to diminish symptoms associated with exercise; Orenitram, a tablet dosage form of treprostinil, to delay disease progression and improve exercise capacity in PAH patients; and Adcirca, an oral PDE-5 inhibitor to enhance the exercise ability in PAH patients. It also markets and sells Unituxin (dinutuximab) injection, a monoclonal antibody for treating high-risk neuroblastoma; and Remunity Pump, which contains a pump and separate controller for Remodulin. In addition, the company engages in developing RemoPro and Ralinepag for the treatment of PAH; Aurora-GT, a gene therapy product to rebuild the blood vessels in the lungs; and Nebulized Tyvaso, for the treatment of idiopathic pulmonary fibrosis, as well as xenografts, which are development-stage organ products. It has licensing and collaboration agreements with DEKA Research & Development Corp. to develop a semi-disposable system for the subcutaneous delivery of treprostinil; MannKind Corporation to develop and license treprostinil inhalation powder and the Dreamboat device; and Arena Pharmaceuticals, Inc. to develop Ralinepag. The company was incorporated in 1996 and is headquartered in Silver Spring, Maryland.View United Therapeutics ProfileRead more More Earnings Resources from MarketBeat Earnings Tools Today's Earnings Tomorrow's Earnings Next Week's Earnings Upcoming Earnings Calls Earnings Newsletter Earnings Call Transcripts Earnings Beats & Misses Corporate Guidance Earnings Screener Earnings By Country U.S. Earnings Reports Canadian Earnings Reports U.K. Earnings Reports Latest Articles 3 Reasons to Like the Look of Amazon Ahead of EarningsTesla Stock Eyes Breakout With Earnings on DeckJohnson & Johnson Earnings Were More Good Than Bad—Time to Buy? 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There are 11 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good morning, and welcome to the United Therapeutics Corporation Third Quarter 2024 Earnings Webcast. My name is Dave, and I will be your conference operator today. All participants on the call portion of this webcast will be in a listen only mode until the question and answer portion of this earnings call. Please note this call is being recorded. I would now like to turn the webcast over to Dewey Steadman, Head of Investor Relations at United Therapeutics. Speaker 100:00:43Thank you, Dave, and good morning. It's my pleasure to welcome you to the United Therapeutics Corporation Q3 2024 earnings webcast. Remarks today will include forward looking statements representing our expectations or beliefs regarding future events, and these statements involve risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially. Our latest SEC filings, including Forms 10 ks and 10 Q, contain additional information on these risks and uncertainties, and we assume no obligation to update these forward looking statements. Today's remarks may discuss the progress and results of clinical trials or other developments with respect to our products, and these remarks are intended solely to educate investors and are not intended to serve as the basis for medical decision making or to suggest that any products are safe and effective for any unapproved or investigational uses. Speaker 100:01:33Full prescribing information for the products are available on our website. Accompanying me on today's call are Doctor. Martine Rothblatt, our Chairperson and Chief Executive Officer Michael Binkowitz, our President and Chief Operating Officer James Edgemond, our Chief Financial Officer and Treasurer Doctor. Lee Peterson, our Executive Vice President of Product Development and Xeno transplantation and Pat Poisson, our Executive Vice President of Technical Operations. Note that Pat Poisson and I will participate in a fireside chat session and 1 on 1 meetings at the UBS Global Healthcare Conference outside of Los Angeles on November 12. Speaker 100:02:10Along with Harry Silvers from our Investor Relations team, I will be at the Oppenheimer Rare Disease Day in New York City on December 12. And finally, Martine Rothblatt will present at the 43rd Annual JPMorgan Healthcare Conference in San Francisco in January. Our scientific, commercial and medical affairs teams will present at the phenomenal HOPE, 2024 on December 6 in Boston and at the Pulmonary Vascular Research Institute Annual Congress in Rio de Janeiro in late January. Now I will turn the call the webcast over to Martine for an overview of our Q3 2024 financial results and the business activities of United Therapeutics. Martin? Speaker 200:02:51Thank you, Dewey, and good morning, everyone. We have slides available for reference, and I encourage you to review those at your leisure. I'm not going to speak directly to the slides. United Therapeutics is a momentum story. We continue to reach and exceed our goals quarter after quarter, year after year in all three waves of growth foundation, innovation and revolution. Speaker 200:03:17For our foundation wave, driven by our current commercial business, United Therapeutics hosted its 6th consecutive quarter of record revenue led by double digit growth for Tyvaso both nebulized and DPI, Orenitram and Unituxan. We also have a record number of patients on Tyvaso DPI, Orenitram and Remodulin. We remain confident in the potential for our current commercial business to continue to drive double digit revenue growth in the near and midterm as our innovation wave starts to reach the market. Our innovation wave is on the cusp of generating significant registration phase data with the TETON-two study of nebulized Tyvaso in idiopathic pulmonary fibrosis expected to report top line data in the second half of twenty twenty five. As we progress toward full enrollment for TETON-one by the end of this year, data for that study will not be far behind. Speaker 200:04:16In 2026, we expect to complete our advanced outcome study of Ralinepag in PAH. And finally, in 2025, we expect FDA action on our recently submitted premarket approval application for our centralized lung evaluation system or CLS ex vivo lung perfusion technology. Beyond our record setting commercial performance, we expect a steady stream of clinical data reads and regulatory actions through the next 36 months, setting our company up well for continued growth through the balance of the decade. Our Revolution Wave is also making tangible progress toward reality with our Phase 1 study for Mira liver ELAP now underway, the first clinical study of a bioengineered organ alternative. We expect data from this initial safety study in 2025. Speaker 200:05:10Also within our Revolution wave, we recently received feedback from the FDA regarding our IND for our ukidney10 gene edited porcine xeno kidney and we expect to file our IND shortly for what will be the first clinical study of a xeno organ. We look forward to sharing more details on our clinical trial design and commercial opportunity in the future following acceptance of our IND. To close, I want to reiterate that our momentum is strong and growing. We have double digit revenue growth our thriving commercial business. We have several important data reads and potential regulatory decisions over the next 36 months and we're moving into the clinic with revolutionary organ alternative technologies. Speaker 200:05:55In short, there is no other biotech with the vision, grit and determination as United Therapeutics. I'll now turn the call over to Chief Financial Officer and Treasurer, James Edgemont, to give a summary of our recently completed accelerated share repurchase program and our capital allocation priorities. James? Speaker 300:06:19Thank you, Martine. I'd like to provide an update on our capital allocation strategy, specifically regarding our accelerated share repurchase program or ASR that was announced in late March 2024 earlier this year. As you recall, we entered into an ASR agreement with Citi to repurchase $1,000,000,000 of UTHR common stock. During the Q3, Citi successfully completed the overall ASR program, having repurchased a total of approximately 3,500,000 shares at an average repurchase price of approximately $2.82 which repurchased shares we are currently holding as treasury stock on our balance sheet. The approximately 3,500,000 repurchase shares represent approximately 7% of our outstanding shares as of the program's initiation date. Speaker 300:07:17Despite this overall reduction in UT's outstanding share count, liquidity in our stock has increased as reflected by our average daily trading volume being at its highest level ever through the end of September. Since the program's announcement in late March 2024, our stock appreciated 47% through September 30. The completion of this ASR program demonstrates our commitment over the last 12 months to all of our capital allocation priorities. First, through our innovative clinical development pipeline as well as CapEx to support our DPI manufacturing facility in North Carolina and our clinical scale xenotransplantation DPF facilities in Virginia and Minnesota 2nd, through the acquisition of IVIVA and Miramatrix as well as a in licensing agreement to support our small molecule business and finally, through successful completion of this ASR. Looking ahead, we remain committed to all three capital allocation priorities, which in order are first to invest in our commercial and R and D opportunities through P and L spend as well as capital outlays for our commercial and clinical facilities. Speaker 300:08:40Our second priority is to pursue intelligent business and corporate development opportunities that enhance our rare disease focus and complement our organ alternative initiatives like bolt on M and A and in license opportunities and our 3rd priority, to return capital to shareholders like share repurchases. And we'll continue to consider all three priorities when deploying our financial capital. Our healthy balance sheet and robust cash flow generation driven by our growing commercial portfolio enable us to continue to pursue these capital allocation priorities in a thoughtful manner. Moreover, we remain in a strong position to meet our mid- and long term goals that set ourselves up for future growth across our innovative pipeline with Tyvaso in pulmonary fibrosis and ralinepag in pulmonary hypertension and our revolutionary organ alternative program. On a separate note, in the Q3, we recorded under selling, general and administrative expenses a litigation accrual of $65,100,000 in connection with a potential judgment in the Stendoz case. Speaker 300:09:56While this liability could be adjusted up or down in the future as this litigation progresses, it should not be considered a recurring expense. I'll now turn the call over to our President, Michael Benkowitz, who will give an overview of our commercial performance. Michael? Speaker 400:10:16Thank you, James, and good morning, everyone. Today, we are excited and pleased to report another quarter of record breaking revenue, achieving a remarkable $749,000,000 which represents a 23% growth from the Q3 of 2023. Achieving this $3,000,000,000 revenue run rate just 8 quarters after surpassing the $2,000,000,000 run rate mark is a significant milestone for our company, something we have been really focused on hitting since the beginning of the year. Before I provide the usual product performance overview, I want to express my thanks and congratulations to my fellow Unitarians for their incredible effort and success. Total Tyvaso revenue for the Q3 was $434,000,000 marking a 33% increase over the previous year. Speaker 400:11:04This growth was driven by continued uptake of Tyvaso DPI, growth in utilization by PHILD patients, an increase in pricing and enhanced commercial utilization following the implementation of the Part D redesign provisions under the Inflation Reduction Act. Tyvaso has solidified its position as the number Act. Tyvaso has solidified its position as the number one prescribed prostacyclin treatment in the U. S. Across both nebulizer and dry powder inhaler delivery systems. Speaker 400:11:27Referral and start patterns remain very robust and the franchise saw record commercial and total patients, reinforcing our confidence in the durability of our growth profile. We're also seeing the benefit of the sales force expansion and realignment that went into effect at the beginning of this year. Through the Q3, we have grown our prescriber base by almost 15% while still maintaining prescribing depth, measured as those physicians with 3 or more Tyvaso patients. 40% of these new prescribers are ILD physicians, which is important to grow the PH ILD market and then eventually the IPF and markets if our clinical trials and those indications are successful. We also reported record revenue for Orenitram at $113,000,000 for the 3rd quarter, representing a 23% growth from the same period last year. Speaker 400:12:23This increase was driven by increased demand, higher commercial utilization and pricing adjustments. As with Tyvaso, referral and start patterns remain strong and we ended the quarter with a record number of commercial and total patients. We are seeing increased utilization of the EXPEDITE induction protocol where PAH patients initiate treprostinil therapy on Remodulin and then transition to Orenitram. Over time, we could see the average Orenitram dose per patient increase as patients are able to reach a therapeutic dose more quickly with this approach. Worldwide revenue for Remodulin was 128,000,000 dollars a slight decline of 2% from last year due to international order timing. Speaker 400:13:06However, U. S. Revenue grew by 3% year over year setting a new record for total U. S. Patients on therapy. Speaker 400:13:12And for the 1st 9 months of the year, U. S. Remodulin revenue was up about 12% from the same period in 2023, reflecting the continued strength of the brand despite competition on multiple fronts. Looking deeper, U. S. Speaker 400:13:25Remodulin referral and start patterns remain very strong. Remodulin remains the most prescribed parenteral prostacyclin in the U. S. With sustained demand for both intravenous and subcutaneous administration. And this comes 5 years after the first launch of a generic version of Remodulin. Speaker 400:13:44Finally, Unituxan also achieved record revenue of $61,000,000 for the Q3, up 19% from the prior year quarter. U. S. Revenue for Unituxan was $58,000,000 driven by both price and volume increases. This growth demonstrates the product's strong market presence and the effectiveness of our commercial strategies. Speaker 400:14:05To wrap up, we are extremely proud of our achievements this quarter, driven by strong performance from each of our commercial products. We are well positioned to continue providing these important medicines to our patients and delivering value to our shareholders. Martine, I'll turn things back to you to run the Q and A. Martin, do we still have you? Operator00:14:42We have lost connection with Martin. Speaker 100:14:45Okay. Speaker 400:14:47So, do you want to run the Speaker 100:14:49Yes, I'll run the Q and A. Operator, can we have our first question, please? Operator00:14:54Yes. We will now begin the question and answer session. Our first question comes from Joseph Thorm with TD Cowen. Please go ahead. Speaker 500:15:18Hi there. Good morning. Congrats on the progress and thank you for taking my question. Maybe a little bit of a follow-up to the expedite question. We have heard since WinRiver's launch that some patients are able to deescalate from Remodulin down to oral Orenitram. Speaker 500:15:32I guess, is this something that you are seeing? Obviously, Orenitram was strong in the quarter. And patients that do kind of titrate off of Remodulin onto the Orenitram, are they going to higher doses like what we were seeing in the expedite? And maybe how would you expect this to impact the revenue line maybe going forward? Thank you. Speaker 400:15:55Yes, I'll go ahead, Michael. Speaker 200:15:58Michael, go ahead, Michael. Michael, can you take that? Speaker 400:16:01Martine, you're back. Okay, good. Speaker 500:16:02Yes, so I think 2 parts to Speaker 400:16:04that question, Joe. Thanks for the question. I think on the first part in terms of the, I guess, the down titration off of Remodulin to Orenitram. I wouldn't say this is a trend yet or, I guess a widely used practice. I mean we have heard at the margins that there's some patients are able to do that. Speaker 400:16:23But I think the jury is still out on whether that's going to become like a widespread trend. I would kind of point back to kind of how to Remodulin performance during the quarter, which is certainly showing that that brand is continuing to grow and there's certainly still a place for Remodulin and parenteral prostacyclin therapy in PAH. Regarding expedite and the transition from Remodulin to Orenitram, and the short answer to that is yes, we do expect higher doses with Orenitram as a result of the expedite protocol. We're seeing I'd say higher average dose, right. Because the idea is that you start a patient on Remodulin, you titrate them up to a range of a dose and then you're able to transition them over to a retitram and you're able to get them up to a therapeutic dose in some cases as soon as a month, but I would say in kind of a 1 to 2 month range, which would normally take if you're starting de novo, it could take up to 6 months. Speaker 400:17:23And then from there, depending on the patients to how the patients doing, you can continue to titrate up. So as a result of that, as we see more patients coming to Orenitram from Remodulin, we're going to see that average dose for Orenitram to continue to tick up over time. Operator00:17:45And the next question comes from Rowanna Ruiz with Leerink Partners. Speaker 600:17:55So I noticed that the nebulized Tyvaso had pretty robust growth in the quarter along with DPI. I was just curious if you could elaborate on some of the drivers behind that. Did that include some new patient starts? And was there a piece of that where if you're observing, are there more patients transitioning from nebulizer to DPI eventually? Speaker 200:18:16Thanks, Roanna. Michael, you definitely have the most knowledge of us on that. So if you could answer? Sure. Speaker 400:18:22Well, I think some of the growth some of the year over year growth in the nebulized Tyvaso was a function of some of the destocking that we saw last year. And so that maybe explains some of the delta. But I would say generally from a trending standpoint, I think we've reached kind of a really nice kind of steady state in terms of the mix of DPI and nebulizer. It's roughly 2 thirds, 1 thirds in favor of DPI. And we're starting to see really both of those growing. Speaker 400:18:55I would say transitions back and forth between the products nebulizer to DPI or DPI to nebulizer, it's pretty marginal at this point. I mean, we are seeing some of that, but not a lot. I mean, I think we saw when we launched into DPI, we did see obviously a significant number of nebulizer patients transition over to DPI, but that's largely played out. So it's really, I think, more case by case. How is the patient doing on one delivery system versus the other? Speaker 400:19:23And then the nice thing about our portfolio is the doctors can toggle back and forth as they need to depending on how the patient is doing. Speaker 200:19:31Perfect. Thank you so much, Michael. Operator, next question. Operator00:19:36And the next question comes from Andreas Argers with Oppenheimer. Please go ahead. Speaker 700:19:44Good morning and thanks for taking our questions and congrats on another solid quarter. We have seen a couple of capital allocation questions, just 1 or 2 parts here. But can you talk about Tyvaso and Tyvaso VPI manufacturing capacity needs to support IPF? Will additional investment need to take place? And then along the share repurchase program, how are you thinking about potential to run another program, especially given the lead up into the IPF? Speaker 700:20:14Thanks. Speaker 200:20:15Okay. Thanks for those questions. And by the way, thanks to Oppenheimer as well for convening a rare disease day, but we'll be very proud to present that. Our whole community appreciates that. Those two questions are best addressed by James. Speaker 200:20:31So James, can you take it from here? Speaker 300:20:34Yes. Thanks, Martin. So Andreas, good to hear your voice this morning. On your first question, which I think was capital allocation, but really related to production of DPI relative to an approval in IPF. And we do not expect to have or let me say it differently. Speaker 300:20:53We expect to be able to support an approval of IPF with DPI. So our production facility in North Carolina, which we talked about previously, a $500,000,000 investment in a new manufacturing facility for Tyvaso DPI. And the thinking of expanding that manufacturing capacity was not only to continue serving the existing patient population, but be in a strong position to support new indications that would use DPI going forward. So we don't expect any we expect to be able to support that, don't expect any shortages or anything like that going forward at all. The second question with respect to the share repurchase, As I mentioned in my opening remarks, we did do the $1,000,000,000 ASR in 2024, which was completed in September. Speaker 300:21:53And as I also mentioned, over the last 12 months, we've actually demonstrated our commitment to all three capital allocation priorities through various opportunities. And going forward, we're going to continue to thoughtfully evaluate the deployment of capital in all our capital allocation priorities going forward. So investing in ourselves and our facilities through thoughtful corporate development, but also through potentially ASRs. But again, at this point, we're not calling specifically out an ASR going forward, but it's going to be in our catalyst going forward as we look at all our capital deployment. So Martine, back to you. Speaker 200:22:36Okay. Thank you, James. That's I love how you covered all 3.60 degrees for that question. Operator00:22:45And the next question comes from Roger Song with Jefferies. Speaker 800:22:54Maybe my question relates to the Modulant. Since your sales is pretty reaching a pretty good kind of steady state with a slight growth. Just curious about the nuance between IV versus subcu against the generics? And then should we see some regrowth from here? Thank you. Speaker 200:23:14Okay, Roger. Thank you for your question and the compliments on the pullout quarter. Yes, and thank you also for recognizing the growth in the romodulin patients. I think Mike would have all of the answers at his fingertips to the questions you asked. Mike? Speaker 400:23:33Sure. Thanks. Yes. Thanks, Martine. Thanks for the question, Roger. Speaker 400:23:37So with respect to Remodulin, I mean, I think we have ever since we were on the cusp of a generic launch, been very confident about the durability and resilience of the brand through generic competition and then even through the introduction of other medicines in PAH. I think if you talk to doctors today, they still think that that is one of the go to drugs, one of the best drugs that we have at our disposal to treat pulmonary hypertension patients. I think the limitation of it being more widely used is one is patients are a little bit reluctant to go on a pump before they have to. And there are other options available. So naturally, they're going to want to try and experiment or use these less invasive options before moving to Olodulin. Speaker 400:24:33But PAH is a progressive disease. There is no cure. And so we believe that really almost all patients at some point are going to need parental prostacyclin. So that's really why over time we've been very, I think, confident in the durability of the Remodulin product. And we continue to feel that that will be the case going forward. Speaker 400:24:55And so as we look out into the future, we continue to believe that it will continue to perform at current levels. As we talked about what I think Joe's question, I mean there could be some toggling back and forth between remodeling and our Rent A Tram, starting our Remodulin, going to Orenitram, moving up to Orenitram. But even those patients at some point may need to go on, on Remodulin. So you may see some variability there over the next few years as the expedite approach continues to take hold. We have another trial that is about to complete called the ARTISAN study where it's similar to EXPEDITE and that we're starting a patient on Remodulin. Speaker 400:25:34We're actually keeping them on for a longer period of time. And the idea is we're able to return the hemodynamics to a normal level and then transition those patients over to Orenitram as a maintenance drug. So we continue to feel very strongly that there will be a place for Remodulin in the PAH armamentarium now and in the future. Speaker 200:25:57Excellent, Mike. I love when you use the word armamentarium. That describes us some Speaker 400:26:03of the key culprits. What am I saying? Speaker 200:26:05Yes. Well, it's like hits UT right at the bull's eye. Perfect. Operator, next question? Operator00:26:15Yes. And the next question comes from Jessica Fye with JPMorgan. Please go ahead. Speaker 600:26:22Great. Good morning, guys. Thanks for taking my question and congrats on what sounds like some favorable pre IND feedback for the 10 gene edited kidney. Can you elaborate on some of that pre IND feedback you got from FDA? And maybe talk about how we should think about the design and goals for initial clinical trial? Speaker 200:26:40Sure, Jessica. And so nice to hear your voice this morning as well. We have on our call Doctor. Lee Peterson. She's in charge of all genotransplantation. Speaker 200:26:50So Lee, could you address Jessica's question? Speaker 900:26:54Yes, sure. Thanks for the question. You're right. We did receive some pre IND feedback from the FDA on our uKIDNEY, which is the 10 gene edited porcine xeno kidney. And we're working very hard to submit that IND shortly. Speaker 900:27:17We did propose the clinical study design. We had a few proposals there. But unfortunately, we haven't I mean, we really don't want to share all of the details until it's officially cleared by FDA, which is IND clearance. So, we're really looking forward to sharing that design with you later, but we need to get that IND cleared first. Speaker 200:27:46Thank you so much, Lee. Great answer. Operator, next question please. Operator00:27:50And the next question comes from Ash Verma with UBS. Please go ahead. Speaker 1000:27:56Great. Thanks for taking my question. So just good to see you get to the $3,000,000,000 annualized revenue run rate. I know you had previously outlined this goal of reaching $4,000,000,000 run rate exiting 2025. Are you still on track to get there? Speaker 1000:28:13And then secondly, in the last quarter, you made a mention of potential rebating contracting. I know the competitor launch has since then been pushed out to May next year, but have you already rebated some book of your business preemptively? Thanks. Speaker 200:28:30Okay. So maybe best would be to have Mike talk about the competitor environment. And with regard to the revenue run rate, it is actually quite amazing that we have doubled from a $1,500,000,000 to a $3,000,000,000 revenue run rate so rapidly. As we've mentioned throughout the call and in the earnings release and actually as we've been forecasting for the past several quarters, we feel very comfortable continuing our double digit annual revenue growth based on all of the products that we have in our portfolio and already approved and then in the pipeline and then with the 3 waves that we talk about. So if you just do the math, you take $3,000,000,000 revenue run rate and you keep growing it at a double digit rate very quickly, you will be able to get to a 4, 5, 6 and beyond revenue run rates and that's what we're targeting. Speaker 200:29:35Mike, can you talk about the competitor environment question? Speaker 400:29:40Sure. And Ash, I think your question was specifically around some of the payer contracts we've entered into or in the process of entering into. So we did have some that started This is mainly on the Part D side where we haven't with the Part D payers where we historically have not contracted. So we had a couple that went effective July 1. We have a couple I think that kick in October 1. Speaker 400:30:07And then I think one that kicks in January 1st. So by January 1st they will all be in place. So we did see a little bit higher gross to net on DPI in Q3. But as you can see, we're clearly able to kind of grow through that. We think entering into these contracts now positions us very favorably for when a competitor comes to the market because we will at that point have rebate dollars already flowing through the payers and we have parity and non disadvantaged language. Speaker 400:30:42So I think they're going to be reluctant to just turn those off overnight. And so we thought it was important to kind of get those contracts in place. And I just have to give a really big shout out to our market access team. They did a phenomenal job in negotiating these contracts and really I think negotiating them on terms that are very favorable to United Therapeutics. Speaker 200:31:05Perfect. Thanks, Michael. Operator, we have time for one last question. Operator00:31:12We are not showing any further questions at this time. Speaker 200:31:15Absolutely. We've blown them away. Fantastic. Well, just to wrap up here, as we mentioned at the beginning, United Therapeutics is a very strong momentum story. As a bit of a science nerd, I've got to point out that momentum is mass times velocity, and our mass is truly formidable. Speaker 200:31:36We have a huge vault of intellectual property. We've got over 1,000 top of their game science, marketing and allied health professionals among our employee base. And others have pointed out that we have a fortress balance sheet. So all of that is really, as Michael would say, an armamentarium of math. And then in terms of velocity, UT really prides itself at moving at an entrepreneurial speed and the speed that we're moving in is in the direction of ever greater innovation and then ultimately a revolutionary a revolution in manufactured organ and organ alternative products. Speaker 200:32:20Thank you so much for participating in the call today, and I'll turn it back to the operator to wrap it up. Operator00:32:26Thank you for participating in today's United Therapeutics Corporation earnings webcast. A rebroadcast of this webcast will be available for replay for 1 week by visiting the Events and Presentations section of the United Therapeutics Investor Relations website at ir. Uniter.com.Read moreRemove AdsPowered by