NASDAQ:CDXC ChromaDex Q3 2024 Earnings Report Earnings HistoryForecast ChromaDex EPS ResultsActual EPS$0.02Consensus EPS $0.01Beat/MissBeat by +$0.02One Year Ago EPS-$0.01ChromaDex Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$25.58 millionExpected Revenue$23.70 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$1.88 millionYoY Revenue GrowthN/AChromaDex Announcement DetailsQuarterQ3 2024Date10/31/2024TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateThursday, October 31, 2024Conference Call Time4:30PM ETUpcoming EarningsChromaDex's Q1 2025 earnings is scheduled for Tuesday, May 6, 2025, with a conference call scheduled on Wednesday, May 7, 2025 at 4:30 PM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by ChromaDex Q3 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrOctober 31, 2024 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 9 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Thank you for standing by. My name is Mandeep, and I'll be your operator today. At this time, I'd like to welcome everyone to the ChromaDex Third Quarter 2024 Earnings Conference Call. All lines are being placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question and answer session. Operator00:00:25Thank you. I would now like to turn the call over to Ben Samzian, Investor Relations. You may begin. Speaker 100:00:36Thank you. Good afternoon, and welcome to ChromaDex Corporation's Q3 of 2024 results investor call. With us today are ChromaDex's Chief Executive Officer, Rob Reed Chief Financial Officer, Ozan Palmier and Senior Vice President of Scientific and Regulatory Affairs, Doctor. Andrew Shao. Doctor. Speaker 100:00:56Shao will join the call for Q and A. Today's conference call may include forward looking statements, including statements related to ChromaDex's research and development and clinical trial plans and the timing and results of such trials the timing of future regulatory filings the expansion of sale of NIAGEN products and ingredients in new markets business development opportunities future financial results cash needs operating performance, investor interest and business prospects and opportunities as well as anticipated results of operations. Forward looking statements represent only the company's estimates on the date of this conference call and are not intended to give any assurance as to the actual future results. Because forward looking statements relate to matters that have not yet occurred, these statements are inherently subject to risks and uncertainties. Many factors could cause ChromaDex's actual activities or results to differ materially from the activities and results anticipated in forward looking statements. Speaker 100:02:05These risk factors include those contained in ChromaDex's quarterly report on Form 10 Q most recently filed with the SEC, including results of operations, financial condition, cash flows as well as global market and economic conditions on our business. Please note that the company assumes no obligation to update any forward looking statements after the date of this conference call to conform with the forward looking statements, actual results or to changes in its expectations. In addition, certain financial information presented in this call references non GAAP financial measures. The company's earnings presentation and earnings press release, which were issued this afternoon and are available on the company's website, present reconciliations to the appropriate GAAP measures. Finally, this conference call is being recorded via webcast. Speaker 100:03:02The webcast will be available at the Investor Relations section of our website at www.chromadex.com. With that, now it's my pleasure to turn the call over to our Chief Executive Officer, Rob Fried. Speaker 200:03:17Thank you, Ben, and good afternoon, everyone. I thank you for joining today's investor call. I am quite pleased to share that in the Q3, we achieved record results on both our top line and our bottom line with $25,600,000 in revenue, a 31% increase year over year and net income of $1,900,000 This quarter also marks our 6th consecutive quarter of positive adjusted EBITDA reaching $2,900,000 and we generated total positive cash flow of $5,100,000 We ended the quarter with $32,400,000 in cash Speaker 300:04:04and no debt. Speaker 200:04:07This quarter's financial results highlight our unyielding dedication to maintaining fiscal discipline and achieving profitable growth, Speaker 400:04:17while Speaker 200:04:18still advancing our key business initiatives. The record sales this quarter were driven primarily by growth in our e commerce business, as well as the NIAGEN ingredient business, which included this quarter initial sales of our pharmaceutical grade NIAGEN to selected clinics debuting NIAGEN Plus or NIAGEN ID. At $14,800,000 for the 3rd quarter and representing a 16% growth year over year, E commerce continues to be a cornerstone of our total business. In contrast with the Q2, where e commerce growth was stable year over year, the Q3 reflected stronger trends on Amazon as well as our own website. On Amazon, we saw sustained growth following Prime Day in July. Speaker 200:05:15This growth was fueled by refreshed marketing efforts to reinforce TRU NIAGEN's position as the top NAD boosting supplement. Additionally, we were encouraged to see that Amazon had taken steps to address the emergence of brands that offered and promoted NAD boosting products that did not live up to their claims to say the least. At our own website, we are seeing improvements from our marketing efforts to better drive brand awareness effectively through PR as well as influencer marketing to better engage with customers through refreshed social media content and to improve conversion through competitive messaging and performance marketing. More recently, our team has completed a migration to an updated web platform along with the redesign of our own website with a refreshed take on educating the consumer of the company's commitment to product excellence as well as the company's 25 years of innovation and scientific advancements in NAD research. As we continue to represent the gold standard in scientific and professional superiority in the NAD industry, our marketing efforts will continue to focus on optimizing brand and product awareness through influencer and social media marketing as well as optimizing conversion and retention strategy to drive long term customer value. Speaker 200:06:40Watsons remains a valued strategic partner providing steady recurring revenue with occasional quarterly fluctuations. Watsons sell through to direct customers have remained steady year over year during an unfortunate time where the Hong Kong retail market is experiencing an overall decline. While this had an impact on the Q3 with the decline in sales year over year and may have an impact on our sales to Watsons for the full year, we are actively collaborating with them on different marketing initiatives to close the year and into next year, including better leveraging YouTube and social media messaging, KOL and consumer testimonials to promote new customer acquisition and utilizing personalized messaging to retain newly acquired customers. This quarter, we launched our NIAGEN plus product line, introducing NIAGEN ID and injections at select clinics through the Wells Pharmacy Network. Since then, we have rapidly expanded the availability of NIAGEN Plus and have now shipped to over 100 clinics to date. Speaker 200:07:48In the coming weeks, we expect to greatly expand the reach of NIAGEN Plus, expecting to be in over 300 clinics in just the next few weeks. The launch indicates that consumer awareness of NAD Supplementations benefits is growing. There was a recent New York Post article reported that celebrities such as Jennifer Aniston, Kendall Jenner and Hailey Bieber are turning to NADIV therapies for longevity benefits. The article also highlighted that NAD supplementation is gaining traction amongst celebrities and in health conscious consumers, much like the trends we've seen in other areas such as GLP-one. Another publication released last week in Forbes Magazine recently spotlighted NIAGEN IV drip in particular as a premier treatment to boosting NAD, offering shorter session times, enhanced comfort and higher resulting NAD levels than traditional NAD IV therapies. Speaker 200:08:54As a leader in the NAD space, we are confident that NIAGEN IV will set a new standard in NAD IV therapy and will advance our goal for NIAGEN to become a household name. In prior earnings calls, I shared that the U. S. FDA had granted orphan drug designation and rare pediatric disease designation for nicotinamide riboside as a candidate for treatment of ataxia telangiectasia or AT. In September, ChromaDex initiated communication with the FDA and is working now to organize meetings as part of the company's effort to pursue an investigational new drug IND application for the use of NR in the treatment of AT. Speaker 200:09:40Additionally, last quarter, I discussed updates around the NOPARC study, which we will still expect to be completed within the first half of next year. While there is not much detail we are allowed to share publicly, we are in consistent dialogue with the investigators from Hawkwood University Hospital on the progress of this important Parkinson's study. We look forward to sharing more updates in the near future as we go through the process. As many of you know, in September, we announced that Ozan Pamir has been appointed as ChromaDex's new Chief Financial Officer. I'd like to first thank James Lee, our Controller, who is resuming that role as Controller for his steady and impressive leadership during this period in managing our financial operations during this transition. Speaker 200:10:32We're very proud of James and are excited to be working with him for many, many years to come. I would also like to acknowledge our VP of Finance, Wesley Yu, who has also done an exceptional job in helping us to manage our finance and strategy departments, especially during this transition period. Between the 2, we did not miss a beat and I am quite proud to see our team members rise to the occasion. It is a testament to the exceptional talent we have at ChromaDex. Now, I would like to introduce Ozan, who you will hear from shortly. Speaker 200:11:14With 6 years as Chief Financial Officer at 180 Life Sciences, a publicly traded biotech firm, Ozan brings valuable experience, including overseeing the company's NASDAQ listing and leading multiple funding rounds. Ozan will be instrumental in guiding ChromaDex through this pivotal phase of growth by reinforcing our financial discipline, strengthening our business operations for profitable expansion and enhancing internal capabilities with his insights and expertise. I am excited for him to spearhead our efforts in the pharma space as well as to take over responsibility for the Investor Relations. I very much look forward to the positive impact he will have on our organization. Today, we've made significant progress towards sustainable profitable growth as we have been saying for several years. Speaker 200:12:07We have continued advancements in our innovation pipeline as well. As ChromaDex celebrates 25 years of innovation and pioneering NAD research, I'm grateful to reflect on how far we have come. Looking ahead, I'm confident in the strong foundation we've established and the moment building toward accelerated growth in 2025. While we are not yet ready to provide an outlook for 2025, I believe we are very well positioned as the global authority of NAD science and as a paragon of the NAD industry to make NIAGEN a household name. And I would now like to hand over the call to Ozan to run through the quarter's financials in more detail and then on to Q and A and closing remarks. Speaker 200:12:57Ozan? Speaker 500:12:59Thank you, Rob. It is a pleasure to be introduced to our investors, partners and team members who have joined today. As Rob mentioned, I've spent the last 6 years of my career as the CFO of a NASDAQ listed biotech company, following a career in investment banking where my focus was on life sciences companies. I joined ChromaDex because of the opportunities that are provided by the unparalleled science we have. The company is at a unique inflection point where the core business provides a stable foundation for growth and we are presented with a significant market potential through the pursuit of the new verticals. Speaker 500:13:38I'm excited by the opportunity to help lead ChromaDex in its next phase of growth through strategic plans to expand into the pharmaceutical sector. My focus will be on strengthening our financial discipline and optimizing operations to ensure sustainable long term value for our shareholders as we move forward in this promising new chapter. My immediate objective as CFO is to look across the company's business operations and to leverage my experience and expertise to strengthen the fiscal discipline already in place and to advance the company's financial position in addition to strengthening the company's relationship with the investment community through Investor Relations efforts. I will also be focused on helping the company evaluate and pursue strategic entry points into the pharmaceutical industry. As we announced last month, following Marcom LLP's merger with CBIZ, Marcom stepped down as our auditor to comply with independence requirements. Speaker 500:14:43While we thank them for their services in the last 10 plus years, one of my first initiatives as CFO of ChromaDex is to facilitate the appointment of a new audit firm that will be suitable for the next phase of growth at ChromaDex. Beyond these objectives, I'm encouraged by the leadership I have seen at ChromaDex and I'm committed to upholding the operational efficiency and financial discipline that have been key to ChromaDex's success, which are highlighted in this most recent quarter. I agree with Rob and believe that ChromaDex has a strong foundational team in place to continue its momentum. Now moving on to our Q3 financial performance. Total net sales in the Q3 of 2024 were $25,600,000 a significant 31% or a $6,100,000 increase compared to the Q3 of 2023. Speaker 500:15:41This growth was primarily driven by an increase of 3 68 percent or $5,200,000 increase in NIAGEN ingredient sales, with $4,300,000 in higher sales of food grade NIAGEN to key partners and initial sales of our pharma grade NIAGEN to select clinics. Additionally, the TRU NIAGEN sales grew by $700,000 as 16% growth in e commerce sales were partially offset by a decline in Watsons and other B2B sales. Our gross margins improved to 63.5%, up 210 basis points compared to 61.4% in the Q3 of 2023. This increase was driven by changes in our product mix, including benefits from the launch of pharmaceutical grade NIAGEN, the recognition of deferred revenue and improvements in labor and overhead utilization rates with higher sales. We continue to demonstrate strong operational efficiency and cost management. Speaker 500:16:44The selling and marketing expenses as a percentage of net sales improved to 27.5% compared to 31% in the Q3 of 2023. This reflects our ongoing efforts to strategically scale sales and marketing investments while achieving higher returns. Research and development expenses remained stable year over year as we continue to focus on advancing innovations and investing in the development of new NAD precursors. Operator00:17:15General and Speaker 500:17:15administrative expenses increased by CAD500,000 compared to the previous year due to higher legal expenses to support our NIAGEN Plus or NIAGEN IV launch and patent defense litigation. For the Q3 of 2024, our operating income was $1,600,000 versus $1,100,000 loss in the Q3 of 2023, which is an improvement of $2,700,000 driven by higher net sales and gross margin improvements and partially offset by increased operating expenses. The net income attributable to common stockholders for the Q3 of 2024 was $1,900,000 or net income of $0.02 per share, a meaningful improvement compared to the net loss of $1,000,000 and the loss of $0.01 per share for the Q3 of 2023. Moving on to the balance sheet and cash flow. Our balance sheet continues to strengthen. Speaker 500:18:17We ended the quarter with $32,400,000 in cash and no debt. For the 9 months ended September 30, 2024, net cash provided by operations was $3,500,000 compared to $6,500,000 in the same period last year. The difference year over year was largely driven by changes in working capital with a relatively greater increase in trade receivables, a greater reduction in accounts payable and accrued expenses and lower provisions for credit losses, partially offset by a $6,400,000 improvement in net income. As it relates to our 2024 full year P and L outlook, detailed information on key financial metrics can be found in our earnings press release and accompanying slide presentation. At this point in the year, the only adjustment to our expectations is to our top line. Speaker 500:19:14Previously, our outlook for net sales growth included a range from 10% to 15% year over year growth. At this time, we expect approximately 15% year over year growth. This updated outlook represents growth driven by our global e commerce business, new and existing partnerships and upside realized by the launch of NIAGEN IV. Beyond these adjustments, our key metrics remain consistent with last quarter's outlook. We continue to expect strong and steady gross margins with a slight improvement over the prior year's 60.8%. Speaker 500:19:52We plan to make investments in sales and marketing during the Q4 to support the NIAGEN IV launch, while maintaining similar efficiencies and to increase research and development investments to support our core strategic initiatives. In summary, I'm encouraged by our exceptional financial performance this quarter year to date, and I'm grateful for the opportunity to be a leader in this organization to continue making advancements in our strategic plans. ChromaDex's core business remains solid, generating continued positive operating cash flows and supporting a healthy balance sheet. I'm confident that we will continue to discipline and focus to build upon the success thus far towards greater growth, and I look forward to making a positive impact here at ChromaDex for our customers, our business partners, our shareholders and investors. Operator, we are now ready to take questions. Operator00:20:55Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. Our first question comes from the line of Jeff Cohen with Ladenburg Thalmann and Co. Please go ahead. Hi, Speaker 400:21:38Jeff. Hi, Speaker 500:21:44Jeff. Speaker 400:21:46So could you talk a little bit about the formulations now, both IV and injectable? And at the what I heard was up to 300 clinics now and perhaps 100 now, 300 shortly. Could you walk us through the dosages or SKUs out there that are available? Speaker 200:22:08Right. It's in 100 clinics today and we expect it to be in about 300 within the next few weeks, and we expect it to continue to grow beyond that. The interest in NIAGEN Plus is very strong so far, and it was a major factor, probably the major factor in the performance of the quarter, in the Q3, and we expect it to continue beyond the Q3. Most people who are going in for the into the clinics for NIAGEN IV are getting 500 milligrams. It's taking them generally 15 to 20 minutes to ingest that as opposed to 2 to 3 hours if they were getting an NAD IV. Speaker 200:22:53We also offer an injection and the people who are going in and getting the shots are getting, in most cases, 100 milligrams, but they could also get 50 milligrams. The injection SKU is growing. I would say growing at a more rapid rate, although both are growing and are quite popular. Did I get it? Jeff? Speaker 400:23:22Yes, that was perfect. And just one more, if I could just slip it in. And welcome, Ozan, and I guess this one's for you. You talked about this $5,100,000 of cash production for the quarter, and then I followed you down to the $3,200,000 for the 9 months, and then you spoke about the payables and some credit, and then I heard $6,400,000 something else. Could you just clarify what that was? Speaker 500:23:48Can you remind me, like, which numbers you heard? Speaker 400:23:54Oh, you're walking through the year. Like, you Speaker 500:23:55just you just put that here, I guess, right? Speaker 400:23:58Yes, the payables and the $6,400,000 for the quarter. What was that? Yes. Speaker 500:24:07That was just the improvement we had in the net income, the $6,400,000 So we had the cash provided by operations was $3,500,000 We had last year, we had $6,500,000 So I was kind of talking through the difference. And the breakdown of that was an increase in trade receivables, a reduction in accounts payable and accrued expenses, and we had lower provision for credit losses. And that was all offset by a $6,400,000 improvement in net income. Speaker 400:24:48Okay, perfect. That does it for me. And then one more Rob, could you talk about AT and how that may proceed through 2025? Speaker 200:25:01Ask it again, Jeff. Speaker 400:25:04Can you talk about the ATAXA orphan indication and what we may look forward to and see during the balance of this year or 2025? Speaker 200:25:15We've been having conversations with the FDA. We hope to get their notes on our pre IND submission within a month. And until then, we don't really know what their notes are on our application. Hopefully, they'll be minimal and we'll be able to pursue the IND and then get moving on the study in 2025. Speaker 400:25:39Perfect. That does it for us. Sorry for the static. Thanks again. Nice quarter. Speaker 200:25:43No problem. Thanks, Jeff. Thank you. Operator00:25:47Our next question comes from the line of Rajaram Selvaraju with H. C. Wainwright. Please go ahead. Speaker 600:25:56Hi. This is Eduardo calling on behalf of Raghuram. I was curious what's the pricing like for a single dose of NIAGEN? And wanted to clarify that the sales for NIAGEN were included in the e commerce section or which one specifically in the B2B segment of sales? Speaker 200:26:14Hi, Eduardo. I just want to be clear about the question you're asking. Are you asking about the IV? Speaker 300:26:19Correct. The IV and the plus. Speaker 200:26:22Okay. So, we what we refer to as NIAGEN plus is the NIAGEN IV product, the NIAGEN injection product, as well as the NAD test kit. All of these three products are available at clinics. The NIAGEN IV is generally 500 milligrams. Our compounding pharmacy partner sends 500 milligrams in vials, and then they are offered at the clinic level in 500 milligram doses, and the pricing of that is up to the clinic. Speaker 200:27:00What we've observed is that they are generally charging between $500 $700 per session. Speaker 600:27:09Okay. That's really helpful. And were the current sales that you reported now, in what category were the Zyniogen Plus in? Speaker 200:27:20Those sales are under ingredient and they're listed as pharmaceutical grade. Speaker 600:27:26Okay. Pharmaceutical grade. Okay. Got it. Got it. Speaker 600:27:29And just one other follow-up there. How do you see the potential improvements? You guys had great improvements in the margins already. Do you see further improvements or the likelihood of that growing through 2025? Speaker 200:27:47So, these margins these gross margins, I think you're referring to that, are they fluctuate depending on the mix of revenue. So, certain segments of our business have higher gross margins than others. We've indicated that the new NIAGEN Plus initiative has higher gross margins than the company overall. So, we think that as NIAGEN Plus grows, that will have a positive impact on gross margins. But NIAGEN ingredient generally and any retail physical retail sales generally has downward pressure on the gross margins. Speaker 200:28:26So, we see gross margins for the foreseeable future being around the range that it's in right now. Speaker 500:28:35Got it. Thanks. That's really helpful. Those are all my questions. Speaker 200:28:39Okay. Thank you. Operator00:28:41Our next question comes from the line of Bill Dezellem with Tieton Capital Management. Please go ahead. Speaker 700:28:49Thank you. Congratulations on a nice quarter. When you look at the clinics, what is the biggest governor or restraint on growing the number of clinics that you are in? Speaker 200:29:10We think that there are approximately 3,000 clinics in the United States. Some of those are IV hydration clinics, some of them are anti aging clinics, wellness clinics, beauty clinics. There are many different types of clinics that could theoretically offer a NIAGEN plus product. So, there's quite a lot of addressable market out there for us to go after. In terms of restraint, the only real restraint we have at this point is supply of material. Speaker 700:29:49And that would be basically on Grace's shoulders to make more? Speaker 200:29:58Actually, no, we don't source it from Grace. We source it from a pharmaceutical, a different manufacturer. But it's been difficult to make it. It's a completely different really a different ingredient. It's a pharmaceutical grade NIAGEN. Speaker 200:30:13It's taken us years to get to this place. But we expect within we've already been able to deliver a fair amount of product, and in the coming weeks months, we think there'll be much more. But it does take a while to go through the testing and sterilization processes to be pharmaceutical grade and FDA approved. And as you've probably come to know with ChromaDex over the years since you've been with us for a while, We are highly, highly conservative in our quality controls and we take our time in doing really whatever we do, but especially with the ingredients and the products that we make. Speaker 700:30:58Great. Thank you. And then as you look at the early response from patients that have been receiving doses from the clinics, How are they responding to the NIAGEN, number 1? And number 2, do they tend to be converts from the NAD IV or are they truly new to the tend to be new to the concept? Speaker 200:31:29It's a good question. So we've only been in the market now for a couple of months. So, the majority of the consumers thus far have been converts from NAD. These are people who are used to going in for an NAD infusion. And of course, every one of them are absolutely ecstatic because they're used to taking hours to get the NAD infusion. Speaker 200:31:51They're used to very serious stomach pains and sweats and headaches, none of which happens with NIAGEN I. V. And the resultant NAD levels are much higher with NIAGEN I. V. So, they're having an extremely positive experience relative to what they're used to. Speaker 200:32:10But lately, in the last several months, and this is largely because of the NIAGEN I. V. Initiative, there's been a great deal of press around NAD in general. So there's a great deal of curiosity in the marketplace about NIAGEN and NAD. So we are seeing an increase in the number of new consumers going into these clinics endeavoring to try a NIAGEN IV or a NIAGEN shot. Speaker 200:32:42But again, we've only been out there 2 months and it's early, but that's our experience thus far. Speaker 700:32:49That's helpful. And if I may, relative to 2025, would it be a correct directional supposition that the growth in 2025 should be higher than the growth in 2024 simply due to the new relationships that you've had or brought on in 2024 that you'll get a full year's benefit from? And secondarily, that you will have IV clinics for a full year compared to only a small portion of this year? Speaker 200:33:26We're still just assessing the market and the demand. As I said, it's only been 2 months out there. So we're not yet providing any kind of forecast for 2025. I understand the logic behind your thinking, but it's too early for us to say. Speaker 700:33:43I thought I'd give you an opportunity anyhow. Thank you very much and again, great quarter. Speaker 200:33:49Thank you, Bill. Operator00:33:52Our next question comes from the line of Sean McGowan with ROTH MKM Partners. Please go ahead. Speaker 800:34:03Thank you. Good to talk to you again, Rob, and nice to meet you like following us on. Speaker 100:34:09Look forward to meeting you in person. Speaker 800:34:11My first question is really asking for some clarification on the breakdown that you now provide on food grade NIAGEN and pharmaceutical grade NIAGEN as opposed to consumer product. I think, Rob, you said that the major contributing factor to the growth in the quarter was the pharma grade. But that according to the 10 Q, that's only providing like $900,000 of incremental revenue, where it looks like the food grade nitrogen is up a lot, a lot more than that. So is there something in the food grade nitrogen that's related to the pharmaceutical? Speaker 200:34:51So, as I have said over the last really year, we had this new vertical, the new vertical is NIAGEN Plus and the premier product in NIAGEN Plus is NIAGEN I. V. And that we view NIAGEN IV as more than just a P and L business vertical. We also see it as a marketing strategy. Many of the people that are getting were getting NADIV and are gradually switching over to NIAGEN IV are influencers. Speaker 200:35:24People have large followings on social media or who talk to the press or are athletes or celebrities or biohackers, people who have podcasts. So we see NIAGEN I. V. As not only a business, but a strategic marketing initiative that has a halo effect on TRU NIAGEN, and we're already seeing that play out. So what I meant by that was one of the main reasons why sales and our e commerce business is increasing is because of the attention that we're getting via NIAGEN IV. Speaker 800:36:02Okay. I get that. That makes sense. And then the actual line of food grade NIAGEN is up of $4,300,000 or something. Is that like Nestle or is that something unrelated to the consumer product? Speaker 200:36:18So, as we said in previous quarters, one of our customers earlier in the year initiated an Amazon sales strategy, and they are selling NIAGEN in combination with other ingredients on Amazon and other places, and their sales are excellent. It is cannibalizing our business to a certain extent, but they're good partners and it's a healthy business for us and they're contributing to awareness of NIAGEN and NAD in general, so we continue to supply to them. But that is why NIAGEN food grade ingredient sales are up. Speaker 800:37:01Okay. I get it. That makes sense. And then just one more. When you talk about the dosage on NIAGEN Plus at 500 milligrams, how would 500 milligrams in that form compare to the dosages that are in the TRU NIAGEN capsules in terms of the impact on the body? Speaker 200:37:26Right. Well, the our scientists are still studying over a few months what the long term differential is. So, I'm going to wait a quarter before I give data on that comparison. But what you have to understand is that when you swallow the capsules, it goes through the gut and then it goes through the liver and it delivers a relatively small amount of pure NR into the bloodstream, which we have proven gets taken up into the cells and crosses the blood brain barrier and gets into the organs and is effective and from all the studies we published, you see has therapeutic and prophylactic benefits. But when you get it directly into the system into the bloodstream, not pure pharmaceutical grade sterilized nitrogen, it has many times the potency of that dose. Speaker 200:38:21And we've seen that in the one published study that we've put out there on comparing NIAGEN IV to NADIV, extremely high levels of NAD in the bloodstream within 2 hours of NIAGEN IV. But we don't yet have data to share comparing NIAGEN IV to TRU NIAGEN capsules. Speaker 800:38:44And will you be able to make that a part of the marketing of NIAGEN Plus when you do have that data? Speaker 200:38:51We intend to. Great. Speaker 800:38:54Okay. Thank you very much. Look forward to talking to you again. Operator00:39:00Our next question comes from the line of JP Maher with Farmhouse Equity Research. Please go ahead. Speaker 300:39:08Hi, Ram, congratulations on great quarter. And also we'd like to say welcome to Ozan, nice to meet you. One quick question about addressable market in the wellness clinic area. I know in your press release, you talked about 100 clinics that are so far expanded to the availability add. But how many total clinics do you think are out there? Speaker 300:39:32Is it I was looking at some numbers, 20,000, maybe it's 30, I have no idea. But roughly, sort of how large a market in the U. S. Alone do you think it is? Speaker 200:39:42We estimate the addressable market for clinics that deliver IV to be around 3,000. Speaker 300:39:49Okay. That would actually do that kind of work. There are obviously a lot of clinics that won't do Speaker 500:39:53it, right? That is 3,000. Speaker 300:39:54That's the U. S. Alone. And then do you look at other markets outside of that or not? Other countries? Speaker 200:40:00We are getting many, many phone I'm sorry, go ahead. Did you finish? I did, yes. We are I'm sorry, go ahead. Speaker 300:40:11I didn't say anything. I'm not sure whether it's either. Okay. Speaker 200:40:14Sorry. I'm hearing something. We are there is quite a bit of interest, a great deal of interest outside of the U. S. We are navigating our way through regulatory approvals and making sure as we do everything we do is regulatory approved and making sure that when we transfer across border into those countries, we are following the rules and doing it safely and appropriately. Speaker 200:40:40So, it may take a little time before we emerge in other countries with NIAGEN plus Okay. Thank you. Sure. Operator00:40:53That concludes today's Q and A session. I would now like to turn the call over to Wesley Yu for closing remarks. Speaker 600:41:02Thank you, Mandeep. There will be a replay of this call beginning at 7:30 pm Eastern Time today. The replay number is 1-eight hundred-seven 70two 030 and the replay ID is 858-4242. 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There are 9 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Thank you for standing by. My name is Mandeep, and I'll be your operator today. At this time, I'd like to welcome everyone to the ChromaDex Third Quarter 2024 Earnings Conference Call. All lines are being placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question and answer session. Operator00:00:25Thank you. I would now like to turn the call over to Ben Samzian, Investor Relations. You may begin. Speaker 100:00:36Thank you. Good afternoon, and welcome to ChromaDex Corporation's Q3 of 2024 results investor call. With us today are ChromaDex's Chief Executive Officer, Rob Reed Chief Financial Officer, Ozan Palmier and Senior Vice President of Scientific and Regulatory Affairs, Doctor. Andrew Shao. Doctor. Speaker 100:00:56Shao will join the call for Q and A. Today's conference call may include forward looking statements, including statements related to ChromaDex's research and development and clinical trial plans and the timing and results of such trials the timing of future regulatory filings the expansion of sale of NIAGEN products and ingredients in new markets business development opportunities future financial results cash needs operating performance, investor interest and business prospects and opportunities as well as anticipated results of operations. Forward looking statements represent only the company's estimates on the date of this conference call and are not intended to give any assurance as to the actual future results. Because forward looking statements relate to matters that have not yet occurred, these statements are inherently subject to risks and uncertainties. Many factors could cause ChromaDex's actual activities or results to differ materially from the activities and results anticipated in forward looking statements. Speaker 100:02:05These risk factors include those contained in ChromaDex's quarterly report on Form 10 Q most recently filed with the SEC, including results of operations, financial condition, cash flows as well as global market and economic conditions on our business. Please note that the company assumes no obligation to update any forward looking statements after the date of this conference call to conform with the forward looking statements, actual results or to changes in its expectations. In addition, certain financial information presented in this call references non GAAP financial measures. The company's earnings presentation and earnings press release, which were issued this afternoon and are available on the company's website, present reconciliations to the appropriate GAAP measures. Finally, this conference call is being recorded via webcast. Speaker 100:03:02The webcast will be available at the Investor Relations section of our website at www.chromadex.com. With that, now it's my pleasure to turn the call over to our Chief Executive Officer, Rob Fried. Speaker 200:03:17Thank you, Ben, and good afternoon, everyone. I thank you for joining today's investor call. I am quite pleased to share that in the Q3, we achieved record results on both our top line and our bottom line with $25,600,000 in revenue, a 31% increase year over year and net income of $1,900,000 This quarter also marks our 6th consecutive quarter of positive adjusted EBITDA reaching $2,900,000 and we generated total positive cash flow of $5,100,000 We ended the quarter with $32,400,000 in cash Speaker 300:04:04and no debt. Speaker 200:04:07This quarter's financial results highlight our unyielding dedication to maintaining fiscal discipline and achieving profitable growth, Speaker 400:04:17while Speaker 200:04:18still advancing our key business initiatives. The record sales this quarter were driven primarily by growth in our e commerce business, as well as the NIAGEN ingredient business, which included this quarter initial sales of our pharmaceutical grade NIAGEN to selected clinics debuting NIAGEN Plus or NIAGEN ID. At $14,800,000 for the 3rd quarter and representing a 16% growth year over year, E commerce continues to be a cornerstone of our total business. In contrast with the Q2, where e commerce growth was stable year over year, the Q3 reflected stronger trends on Amazon as well as our own website. On Amazon, we saw sustained growth following Prime Day in July. Speaker 200:05:15This growth was fueled by refreshed marketing efforts to reinforce TRU NIAGEN's position as the top NAD boosting supplement. Additionally, we were encouraged to see that Amazon had taken steps to address the emergence of brands that offered and promoted NAD boosting products that did not live up to their claims to say the least. At our own website, we are seeing improvements from our marketing efforts to better drive brand awareness effectively through PR as well as influencer marketing to better engage with customers through refreshed social media content and to improve conversion through competitive messaging and performance marketing. More recently, our team has completed a migration to an updated web platform along with the redesign of our own website with a refreshed take on educating the consumer of the company's commitment to product excellence as well as the company's 25 years of innovation and scientific advancements in NAD research. As we continue to represent the gold standard in scientific and professional superiority in the NAD industry, our marketing efforts will continue to focus on optimizing brand and product awareness through influencer and social media marketing as well as optimizing conversion and retention strategy to drive long term customer value. Speaker 200:06:40Watsons remains a valued strategic partner providing steady recurring revenue with occasional quarterly fluctuations. Watsons sell through to direct customers have remained steady year over year during an unfortunate time where the Hong Kong retail market is experiencing an overall decline. While this had an impact on the Q3 with the decline in sales year over year and may have an impact on our sales to Watsons for the full year, we are actively collaborating with them on different marketing initiatives to close the year and into next year, including better leveraging YouTube and social media messaging, KOL and consumer testimonials to promote new customer acquisition and utilizing personalized messaging to retain newly acquired customers. This quarter, we launched our NIAGEN plus product line, introducing NIAGEN ID and injections at select clinics through the Wells Pharmacy Network. Since then, we have rapidly expanded the availability of NIAGEN Plus and have now shipped to over 100 clinics to date. Speaker 200:07:48In the coming weeks, we expect to greatly expand the reach of NIAGEN Plus, expecting to be in over 300 clinics in just the next few weeks. The launch indicates that consumer awareness of NAD Supplementations benefits is growing. There was a recent New York Post article reported that celebrities such as Jennifer Aniston, Kendall Jenner and Hailey Bieber are turning to NADIV therapies for longevity benefits. The article also highlighted that NAD supplementation is gaining traction amongst celebrities and in health conscious consumers, much like the trends we've seen in other areas such as GLP-one. Another publication released last week in Forbes Magazine recently spotlighted NIAGEN IV drip in particular as a premier treatment to boosting NAD, offering shorter session times, enhanced comfort and higher resulting NAD levels than traditional NAD IV therapies. Speaker 200:08:54As a leader in the NAD space, we are confident that NIAGEN IV will set a new standard in NAD IV therapy and will advance our goal for NIAGEN to become a household name. In prior earnings calls, I shared that the U. S. FDA had granted orphan drug designation and rare pediatric disease designation for nicotinamide riboside as a candidate for treatment of ataxia telangiectasia or AT. In September, ChromaDex initiated communication with the FDA and is working now to organize meetings as part of the company's effort to pursue an investigational new drug IND application for the use of NR in the treatment of AT. Speaker 200:09:40Additionally, last quarter, I discussed updates around the NOPARC study, which we will still expect to be completed within the first half of next year. While there is not much detail we are allowed to share publicly, we are in consistent dialogue with the investigators from Hawkwood University Hospital on the progress of this important Parkinson's study. We look forward to sharing more updates in the near future as we go through the process. As many of you know, in September, we announced that Ozan Pamir has been appointed as ChromaDex's new Chief Financial Officer. I'd like to first thank James Lee, our Controller, who is resuming that role as Controller for his steady and impressive leadership during this period in managing our financial operations during this transition. Speaker 200:10:32We're very proud of James and are excited to be working with him for many, many years to come. I would also like to acknowledge our VP of Finance, Wesley Yu, who has also done an exceptional job in helping us to manage our finance and strategy departments, especially during this transition period. Between the 2, we did not miss a beat and I am quite proud to see our team members rise to the occasion. It is a testament to the exceptional talent we have at ChromaDex. Now, I would like to introduce Ozan, who you will hear from shortly. Speaker 200:11:14With 6 years as Chief Financial Officer at 180 Life Sciences, a publicly traded biotech firm, Ozan brings valuable experience, including overseeing the company's NASDAQ listing and leading multiple funding rounds. Ozan will be instrumental in guiding ChromaDex through this pivotal phase of growth by reinforcing our financial discipline, strengthening our business operations for profitable expansion and enhancing internal capabilities with his insights and expertise. I am excited for him to spearhead our efforts in the pharma space as well as to take over responsibility for the Investor Relations. I very much look forward to the positive impact he will have on our organization. Today, we've made significant progress towards sustainable profitable growth as we have been saying for several years. Speaker 200:12:07We have continued advancements in our innovation pipeline as well. As ChromaDex celebrates 25 years of innovation and pioneering NAD research, I'm grateful to reflect on how far we have come. Looking ahead, I'm confident in the strong foundation we've established and the moment building toward accelerated growth in 2025. While we are not yet ready to provide an outlook for 2025, I believe we are very well positioned as the global authority of NAD science and as a paragon of the NAD industry to make NIAGEN a household name. And I would now like to hand over the call to Ozan to run through the quarter's financials in more detail and then on to Q and A and closing remarks. Speaker 200:12:57Ozan? Speaker 500:12:59Thank you, Rob. It is a pleasure to be introduced to our investors, partners and team members who have joined today. As Rob mentioned, I've spent the last 6 years of my career as the CFO of a NASDAQ listed biotech company, following a career in investment banking where my focus was on life sciences companies. I joined ChromaDex because of the opportunities that are provided by the unparalleled science we have. The company is at a unique inflection point where the core business provides a stable foundation for growth and we are presented with a significant market potential through the pursuit of the new verticals. Speaker 500:13:38I'm excited by the opportunity to help lead ChromaDex in its next phase of growth through strategic plans to expand into the pharmaceutical sector. My focus will be on strengthening our financial discipline and optimizing operations to ensure sustainable long term value for our shareholders as we move forward in this promising new chapter. My immediate objective as CFO is to look across the company's business operations and to leverage my experience and expertise to strengthen the fiscal discipline already in place and to advance the company's financial position in addition to strengthening the company's relationship with the investment community through Investor Relations efforts. I will also be focused on helping the company evaluate and pursue strategic entry points into the pharmaceutical industry. As we announced last month, following Marcom LLP's merger with CBIZ, Marcom stepped down as our auditor to comply with independence requirements. Speaker 500:14:43While we thank them for their services in the last 10 plus years, one of my first initiatives as CFO of ChromaDex is to facilitate the appointment of a new audit firm that will be suitable for the next phase of growth at ChromaDex. Beyond these objectives, I'm encouraged by the leadership I have seen at ChromaDex and I'm committed to upholding the operational efficiency and financial discipline that have been key to ChromaDex's success, which are highlighted in this most recent quarter. I agree with Rob and believe that ChromaDex has a strong foundational team in place to continue its momentum. Now moving on to our Q3 financial performance. Total net sales in the Q3 of 2024 were $25,600,000 a significant 31% or a $6,100,000 increase compared to the Q3 of 2023. Speaker 500:15:41This growth was primarily driven by an increase of 3 68 percent or $5,200,000 increase in NIAGEN ingredient sales, with $4,300,000 in higher sales of food grade NIAGEN to key partners and initial sales of our pharma grade NIAGEN to select clinics. Additionally, the TRU NIAGEN sales grew by $700,000 as 16% growth in e commerce sales were partially offset by a decline in Watsons and other B2B sales. Our gross margins improved to 63.5%, up 210 basis points compared to 61.4% in the Q3 of 2023. This increase was driven by changes in our product mix, including benefits from the launch of pharmaceutical grade NIAGEN, the recognition of deferred revenue and improvements in labor and overhead utilization rates with higher sales. We continue to demonstrate strong operational efficiency and cost management. Speaker 500:16:44The selling and marketing expenses as a percentage of net sales improved to 27.5% compared to 31% in the Q3 of 2023. This reflects our ongoing efforts to strategically scale sales and marketing investments while achieving higher returns. Research and development expenses remained stable year over year as we continue to focus on advancing innovations and investing in the development of new NAD precursors. Operator00:17:15General and Speaker 500:17:15administrative expenses increased by CAD500,000 compared to the previous year due to higher legal expenses to support our NIAGEN Plus or NIAGEN IV launch and patent defense litigation. For the Q3 of 2024, our operating income was $1,600,000 versus $1,100,000 loss in the Q3 of 2023, which is an improvement of $2,700,000 driven by higher net sales and gross margin improvements and partially offset by increased operating expenses. The net income attributable to common stockholders for the Q3 of 2024 was $1,900,000 or net income of $0.02 per share, a meaningful improvement compared to the net loss of $1,000,000 and the loss of $0.01 per share for the Q3 of 2023. Moving on to the balance sheet and cash flow. Our balance sheet continues to strengthen. Speaker 500:18:17We ended the quarter with $32,400,000 in cash and no debt. For the 9 months ended September 30, 2024, net cash provided by operations was $3,500,000 compared to $6,500,000 in the same period last year. The difference year over year was largely driven by changes in working capital with a relatively greater increase in trade receivables, a greater reduction in accounts payable and accrued expenses and lower provisions for credit losses, partially offset by a $6,400,000 improvement in net income. As it relates to our 2024 full year P and L outlook, detailed information on key financial metrics can be found in our earnings press release and accompanying slide presentation. At this point in the year, the only adjustment to our expectations is to our top line. Speaker 500:19:14Previously, our outlook for net sales growth included a range from 10% to 15% year over year growth. At this time, we expect approximately 15% year over year growth. This updated outlook represents growth driven by our global e commerce business, new and existing partnerships and upside realized by the launch of NIAGEN IV. Beyond these adjustments, our key metrics remain consistent with last quarter's outlook. We continue to expect strong and steady gross margins with a slight improvement over the prior year's 60.8%. Speaker 500:19:52We plan to make investments in sales and marketing during the Q4 to support the NIAGEN IV launch, while maintaining similar efficiencies and to increase research and development investments to support our core strategic initiatives. In summary, I'm encouraged by our exceptional financial performance this quarter year to date, and I'm grateful for the opportunity to be a leader in this organization to continue making advancements in our strategic plans. ChromaDex's core business remains solid, generating continued positive operating cash flows and supporting a healthy balance sheet. I'm confident that we will continue to discipline and focus to build upon the success thus far towards greater growth, and I look forward to making a positive impact here at ChromaDex for our customers, our business partners, our shareholders and investors. Operator, we are now ready to take questions. Operator00:20:55Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. Our first question comes from the line of Jeff Cohen with Ladenburg Thalmann and Co. Please go ahead. Hi, Speaker 400:21:38Jeff. Hi, Speaker 500:21:44Jeff. Speaker 400:21:46So could you talk a little bit about the formulations now, both IV and injectable? And at the what I heard was up to 300 clinics now and perhaps 100 now, 300 shortly. Could you walk us through the dosages or SKUs out there that are available? Speaker 200:22:08Right. It's in 100 clinics today and we expect it to be in about 300 within the next few weeks, and we expect it to continue to grow beyond that. The interest in NIAGEN Plus is very strong so far, and it was a major factor, probably the major factor in the performance of the quarter, in the Q3, and we expect it to continue beyond the Q3. Most people who are going in for the into the clinics for NIAGEN IV are getting 500 milligrams. It's taking them generally 15 to 20 minutes to ingest that as opposed to 2 to 3 hours if they were getting an NAD IV. Speaker 200:22:53We also offer an injection and the people who are going in and getting the shots are getting, in most cases, 100 milligrams, but they could also get 50 milligrams. The injection SKU is growing. I would say growing at a more rapid rate, although both are growing and are quite popular. Did I get it? Jeff? Speaker 400:23:22Yes, that was perfect. And just one more, if I could just slip it in. And welcome, Ozan, and I guess this one's for you. You talked about this $5,100,000 of cash production for the quarter, and then I followed you down to the $3,200,000 for the 9 months, and then you spoke about the payables and some credit, and then I heard $6,400,000 something else. Could you just clarify what that was? Speaker 500:23:48Can you remind me, like, which numbers you heard? Speaker 400:23:54Oh, you're walking through the year. Like, you Speaker 500:23:55just you just put that here, I guess, right? Speaker 400:23:58Yes, the payables and the $6,400,000 for the quarter. What was that? Yes. Speaker 500:24:07That was just the improvement we had in the net income, the $6,400,000 So we had the cash provided by operations was $3,500,000 We had last year, we had $6,500,000 So I was kind of talking through the difference. And the breakdown of that was an increase in trade receivables, a reduction in accounts payable and accrued expenses, and we had lower provision for credit losses. And that was all offset by a $6,400,000 improvement in net income. Speaker 400:24:48Okay, perfect. That does it for me. And then one more Rob, could you talk about AT and how that may proceed through 2025? Speaker 200:25:01Ask it again, Jeff. Speaker 400:25:04Can you talk about the ATAXA orphan indication and what we may look forward to and see during the balance of this year or 2025? Speaker 200:25:15We've been having conversations with the FDA. We hope to get their notes on our pre IND submission within a month. And until then, we don't really know what their notes are on our application. Hopefully, they'll be minimal and we'll be able to pursue the IND and then get moving on the study in 2025. Speaker 400:25:39Perfect. That does it for us. Sorry for the static. Thanks again. Nice quarter. Speaker 200:25:43No problem. Thanks, Jeff. Thank you. Operator00:25:47Our next question comes from the line of Rajaram Selvaraju with H. C. Wainwright. Please go ahead. Speaker 600:25:56Hi. This is Eduardo calling on behalf of Raghuram. I was curious what's the pricing like for a single dose of NIAGEN? And wanted to clarify that the sales for NIAGEN were included in the e commerce section or which one specifically in the B2B segment of sales? Speaker 200:26:14Hi, Eduardo. I just want to be clear about the question you're asking. Are you asking about the IV? Speaker 300:26:19Correct. The IV and the plus. Speaker 200:26:22Okay. So, we what we refer to as NIAGEN plus is the NIAGEN IV product, the NIAGEN injection product, as well as the NAD test kit. All of these three products are available at clinics. The NIAGEN IV is generally 500 milligrams. Our compounding pharmacy partner sends 500 milligrams in vials, and then they are offered at the clinic level in 500 milligram doses, and the pricing of that is up to the clinic. Speaker 200:27:00What we've observed is that they are generally charging between $500 $700 per session. Speaker 600:27:09Okay. That's really helpful. And were the current sales that you reported now, in what category were the Zyniogen Plus in? Speaker 200:27:20Those sales are under ingredient and they're listed as pharmaceutical grade. Speaker 600:27:26Okay. Pharmaceutical grade. Okay. Got it. Got it. Speaker 600:27:29And just one other follow-up there. How do you see the potential improvements? You guys had great improvements in the margins already. Do you see further improvements or the likelihood of that growing through 2025? Speaker 200:27:47So, these margins these gross margins, I think you're referring to that, are they fluctuate depending on the mix of revenue. So, certain segments of our business have higher gross margins than others. We've indicated that the new NIAGEN Plus initiative has higher gross margins than the company overall. So, we think that as NIAGEN Plus grows, that will have a positive impact on gross margins. But NIAGEN ingredient generally and any retail physical retail sales generally has downward pressure on the gross margins. Speaker 200:28:26So, we see gross margins for the foreseeable future being around the range that it's in right now. Speaker 500:28:35Got it. Thanks. That's really helpful. Those are all my questions. Speaker 200:28:39Okay. Thank you. Operator00:28:41Our next question comes from the line of Bill Dezellem with Tieton Capital Management. Please go ahead. Speaker 700:28:49Thank you. Congratulations on a nice quarter. When you look at the clinics, what is the biggest governor or restraint on growing the number of clinics that you are in? Speaker 200:29:10We think that there are approximately 3,000 clinics in the United States. Some of those are IV hydration clinics, some of them are anti aging clinics, wellness clinics, beauty clinics. There are many different types of clinics that could theoretically offer a NIAGEN plus product. So, there's quite a lot of addressable market out there for us to go after. In terms of restraint, the only real restraint we have at this point is supply of material. Speaker 700:29:49And that would be basically on Grace's shoulders to make more? Speaker 200:29:58Actually, no, we don't source it from Grace. We source it from a pharmaceutical, a different manufacturer. But it's been difficult to make it. It's a completely different really a different ingredient. It's a pharmaceutical grade NIAGEN. Speaker 200:30:13It's taken us years to get to this place. But we expect within we've already been able to deliver a fair amount of product, and in the coming weeks months, we think there'll be much more. But it does take a while to go through the testing and sterilization processes to be pharmaceutical grade and FDA approved. And as you've probably come to know with ChromaDex over the years since you've been with us for a while, We are highly, highly conservative in our quality controls and we take our time in doing really whatever we do, but especially with the ingredients and the products that we make. Speaker 700:30:58Great. Thank you. And then as you look at the early response from patients that have been receiving doses from the clinics, How are they responding to the NIAGEN, number 1? And number 2, do they tend to be converts from the NAD IV or are they truly new to the tend to be new to the concept? Speaker 200:31:29It's a good question. So we've only been in the market now for a couple of months. So, the majority of the consumers thus far have been converts from NAD. These are people who are used to going in for an NAD infusion. And of course, every one of them are absolutely ecstatic because they're used to taking hours to get the NAD infusion. Speaker 200:31:51They're used to very serious stomach pains and sweats and headaches, none of which happens with NIAGEN I. V. And the resultant NAD levels are much higher with NIAGEN I. V. So, they're having an extremely positive experience relative to what they're used to. Speaker 200:32:10But lately, in the last several months, and this is largely because of the NIAGEN I. V. Initiative, there's been a great deal of press around NAD in general. So there's a great deal of curiosity in the marketplace about NIAGEN and NAD. So we are seeing an increase in the number of new consumers going into these clinics endeavoring to try a NIAGEN IV or a NIAGEN shot. Speaker 200:32:42But again, we've only been out there 2 months and it's early, but that's our experience thus far. Speaker 700:32:49That's helpful. And if I may, relative to 2025, would it be a correct directional supposition that the growth in 2025 should be higher than the growth in 2024 simply due to the new relationships that you've had or brought on in 2024 that you'll get a full year's benefit from? And secondarily, that you will have IV clinics for a full year compared to only a small portion of this year? Speaker 200:33:26We're still just assessing the market and the demand. As I said, it's only been 2 months out there. So we're not yet providing any kind of forecast for 2025. I understand the logic behind your thinking, but it's too early for us to say. Speaker 700:33:43I thought I'd give you an opportunity anyhow. Thank you very much and again, great quarter. Speaker 200:33:49Thank you, Bill. Operator00:33:52Our next question comes from the line of Sean McGowan with ROTH MKM Partners. Please go ahead. Speaker 800:34:03Thank you. Good to talk to you again, Rob, and nice to meet you like following us on. Speaker 100:34:09Look forward to meeting you in person. Speaker 800:34:11My first question is really asking for some clarification on the breakdown that you now provide on food grade NIAGEN and pharmaceutical grade NIAGEN as opposed to consumer product. I think, Rob, you said that the major contributing factor to the growth in the quarter was the pharma grade. But that according to the 10 Q, that's only providing like $900,000 of incremental revenue, where it looks like the food grade nitrogen is up a lot, a lot more than that. So is there something in the food grade nitrogen that's related to the pharmaceutical? Speaker 200:34:51So, as I have said over the last really year, we had this new vertical, the new vertical is NIAGEN Plus and the premier product in NIAGEN Plus is NIAGEN I. V. And that we view NIAGEN IV as more than just a P and L business vertical. We also see it as a marketing strategy. Many of the people that are getting were getting NADIV and are gradually switching over to NIAGEN IV are influencers. Speaker 200:35:24People have large followings on social media or who talk to the press or are athletes or celebrities or biohackers, people who have podcasts. So we see NIAGEN I. V. As not only a business, but a strategic marketing initiative that has a halo effect on TRU NIAGEN, and we're already seeing that play out. So what I meant by that was one of the main reasons why sales and our e commerce business is increasing is because of the attention that we're getting via NIAGEN IV. Speaker 800:36:02Okay. I get that. That makes sense. And then the actual line of food grade NIAGEN is up of $4,300,000 or something. Is that like Nestle or is that something unrelated to the consumer product? Speaker 200:36:18So, as we said in previous quarters, one of our customers earlier in the year initiated an Amazon sales strategy, and they are selling NIAGEN in combination with other ingredients on Amazon and other places, and their sales are excellent. It is cannibalizing our business to a certain extent, but they're good partners and it's a healthy business for us and they're contributing to awareness of NIAGEN and NAD in general, so we continue to supply to them. But that is why NIAGEN food grade ingredient sales are up. Speaker 800:37:01Okay. I get it. That makes sense. And then just one more. When you talk about the dosage on NIAGEN Plus at 500 milligrams, how would 500 milligrams in that form compare to the dosages that are in the TRU NIAGEN capsules in terms of the impact on the body? Speaker 200:37:26Right. Well, the our scientists are still studying over a few months what the long term differential is. So, I'm going to wait a quarter before I give data on that comparison. But what you have to understand is that when you swallow the capsules, it goes through the gut and then it goes through the liver and it delivers a relatively small amount of pure NR into the bloodstream, which we have proven gets taken up into the cells and crosses the blood brain barrier and gets into the organs and is effective and from all the studies we published, you see has therapeutic and prophylactic benefits. But when you get it directly into the system into the bloodstream, not pure pharmaceutical grade sterilized nitrogen, it has many times the potency of that dose. Speaker 200:38:21And we've seen that in the one published study that we've put out there on comparing NIAGEN IV to NADIV, extremely high levels of NAD in the bloodstream within 2 hours of NIAGEN IV. But we don't yet have data to share comparing NIAGEN IV to TRU NIAGEN capsules. Speaker 800:38:44And will you be able to make that a part of the marketing of NIAGEN Plus when you do have that data? Speaker 200:38:51We intend to. Great. Speaker 800:38:54Okay. Thank you very much. Look forward to talking to you again. Operator00:39:00Our next question comes from the line of JP Maher with Farmhouse Equity Research. Please go ahead. Speaker 300:39:08Hi, Ram, congratulations on great quarter. And also we'd like to say welcome to Ozan, nice to meet you. One quick question about addressable market in the wellness clinic area. I know in your press release, you talked about 100 clinics that are so far expanded to the availability add. But how many total clinics do you think are out there? Speaker 300:39:32Is it I was looking at some numbers, 20,000, maybe it's 30, I have no idea. But roughly, sort of how large a market in the U. S. Alone do you think it is? Speaker 200:39:42We estimate the addressable market for clinics that deliver IV to be around 3,000. Speaker 300:39:49Okay. That would actually do that kind of work. There are obviously a lot of clinics that won't do Speaker 500:39:53it, right? That is 3,000. Speaker 300:39:54That's the U. S. Alone. And then do you look at other markets outside of that or not? Other countries? Speaker 200:40:00We are getting many, many phone I'm sorry, go ahead. Did you finish? I did, yes. We are I'm sorry, go ahead. Speaker 300:40:11I didn't say anything. I'm not sure whether it's either. Okay. Speaker 200:40:14Sorry. I'm hearing something. We are there is quite a bit of interest, a great deal of interest outside of the U. S. We are navigating our way through regulatory approvals and making sure as we do everything we do is regulatory approved and making sure that when we transfer across border into those countries, we are following the rules and doing it safely and appropriately. Speaker 200:40:40So, it may take a little time before we emerge in other countries with NIAGEN plus Okay. Thank you. Sure. Operator00:40:53That concludes today's Q and A session. I would now like to turn the call over to Wesley Yu for closing remarks. Speaker 600:41:02Thank you, Mandeep. There will be a replay of this call beginning at 7:30 pm Eastern Time today. The replay number is 1-eight hundred-seven 70two 030 and the replay ID is 858-4242. Thank you everyone for joining us today and for your continued support of ChromaDex.Read morePowered by