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Earnings HistoryForecast Daily Journal EPS ResultsActual EPS-$0.40Consensus EPS -$0.48Beat/MissBeat by +$0.08One Year Ago EPSN/ADaily Journal Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$188.90 millionExpected Revenue$181.60 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$7.30 millionYoY Revenue GrowthN/ADaily Journal Announcement DetailsQuarterQ3 2024Date10/31/2024TimeN/AConference Call DateFriday, November 1, 2024Conference Call Time11:00AM ETUpcoming EarningsDaily Journal's Q2 2025 earnings is scheduled for Tuesday, May 13, 2025Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfilePowered by KLX Energy Services Q3 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrNovember 1, 2024 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 6 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Greetings, and welcome to the KLX Energy Services 20 24 Third Quarter Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. A question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Ken Dennard with Investor Relations. Operator00:00:26Thank you, Mr. Dennard. You may begin. Speaker 100:00:29Thank you, operator, and good morning, everyone. We appreciate you joining us for the KLX Energy Services conference call and webcast to review Q3 2024 results. With me today are Chris Baker, KLX Energy's President and Chief Executive Officer and Keefer Lehner, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Following my remarks, management will provide a high level commentary on the financial details of the Q3 and outlook before opening the call for your questions. There will be a replay of today's call that will be available via webcast on the company's website at klx.com There will also be a telephonic recorded replay available until November 15, 2024. Speaker 100:01:16More information on how to access these replay features was included in yesterday's earnings release. Please note that information reported on this call speaks only as of today, November 1, 2024, and therefore, you're advised the time sensitive information may no longer be accurate as of the time of any replay listening or transcript reading. Also, comments on this call will contain forward looking statements within the meaning of the United States federal securities laws. These forward looking statements reflect the current views of KLX Management. However, various risks and uncertainties and contingencies could cause actual results, performance or achievements to differ materially from those expressed in the statements made by management. Speaker 100:02:03The listener or reader is encouraged to read the annual report on Form 10 ks, quarterly reports on Form 10 Q and current reports on Form 8 ks to understand certain of those risks, uncertainties and contingencies. The comments today will also include certain non GAAP financial measures. Additional details and reconciliations to the most direct comparably GAAP financial measures are included in the quarterly press release, which can be found on the KLX Energy website. And now with that behind me, I'd like to turn the call over to Chris Baker. Chris? Speaker 200:02:38Thank you, Ken, and good morning, everyone. Thanks for joining our Q3 call, where we will discuss our Q3 results and provide color on market trends and KLX's outlook. Starting with our Q3 results, we are pleased to report another strong quarter for KLX. Our team's execution in the current market continues to be exemplary and our results came in at the high end of our previously increased Q3 guidance ranges. We experienced further improvement over our strong second quarter results outperforming broader market macro trends. Speaker 200:03:15Specifically, our consolidated 3rd quarter results included $189,000,000 in revenue, dollars 28,000,000 in adjusted EBITDA and adjusted EBITDA margin of 15%, further demonstrating the overall strength of our geographic mix, customer mix, product service offerings and market positioning. Despite another consecutive sequential 3% decline in average quarterly operated U. S. Land rigs and a 7% sequential decline in active U. S. Speaker 200:03:50Frac spreads, KLX was able to navigate the market to deliver another strong quarter. In fact, KLX managed to generate approximately $334,000 per average operated U. S. Land rig, the 3rd highest revenue per average rig metric since we began starting to track that metric post the merger. By leveraging our geographic diversification and strong customer relationships and market position, the continued strength of our 3rd quarter also stands out against the backdrop of ongoing industry challenges and differentiates KLX from our non diversified peers, demonstrating the merit of our strategy and our ability to execute effectively across various market conditions. Speaker 200:04:40Geographically, the Southwest represented 36% of Q3 revenue compared to 39% in Q2. The NortheastMid Con represented 28% of revenue compared to 27% in Q2 and the Rockies represented 36% of revenue compared to 34% in Q2 illustrating continued strength in our Rockies business, steady performance in the Southwest and a sharp rebound in the Northeast Mid Con compared to Q2. From an end market perspective, completion focused activity continues to drive approximately half of our revenue and accounted for 54% of Q3 revenue, up from 51% in Q2. Production and Intervention drove 25% of quarterly revenue, down from 28% in Q2 and Drilling drove 21% flat to Q2. Q3 had an improved completions utilization calendar and saw continued strength across our production and intervention directed solutions. Speaker 200:05:49Additionally, we experienced continued positive momentum with our KLX downhole technology offerings, differentiated fleet of rental assets and market leading completions performance. Our safety record continues to be industry leading with continued KLX record low total recordable incident rates. These technological capabilities combined with our operational expertise and geographic footprint spanning key basins contribute to our best in class competitive positioning with the largest customers in the market. I'll now turn the call over to Keefer to review our financial results in greater detail and we'll return later in the call to discuss our outlook and optimism for 2025. Keefer? Speaker 300:06:40Thanks, Chris. Good morning, everyone. As Chris mentioned, we reported Q3 revenue of $189,000,000 representing a 5% sequential increase from Q2. Our consolidated Q3 adjusted EBITDA was $27,800,000 up 3% sequentially with an adjusted EBITDA margin of 15%, which was consistent with Q2. On a consolidated basis, the sequential increase in revenue was driven by improved crew utilization and increased activity with higher contributions from the Rockies and NortheastMid Con segments and within those our coiled tubing and pressure pumping product service lines drove a majority of the sequential improvement respectively. Speaker 300:07:25The Southwest and Northeast Mid Con segments contributed 36% 28% of Q3 revenue respectively, led in the Southwest by our directional drilling, rentals and frac rentals product service lines and in the Mid Con by our pressure pumping, accommodations and directional drilling offerings. The Rockies contributed 36% led by coiled tubing, rentals and tech services. Total SG and A expense for Q3 was $21,200,000 When you back out non recurring costs, adjusted SG and A expense for Q3 would have been $18,600,000 or just 9.9 percent of quarterly revenue. Cost structure changes we implemented in Q2 related to insurance, IT and third party professional fees continued to benefit us in Q3. These cost reductions are expected to continue through the remainder of 2024 and beyond. Speaker 300:08:25Now moving to our segment results. For the Rocky Mountain segment, revenue, operating income and adjusted EBITDA were $67,900,000 $9,700,000 $16,600,000 respectively for the Q3 of 2024. This represents a 10.6% sequential increase in revenue over the Q2 of 2024, largely due to incremental activity and mixed movement on pricing depending on the underlying PSL. Operating income and adjusted EBITDA decreased sequentially by 8% and 3% respectively, driven largely by a shift in PSL mix, including reduced rentals activity due to short term customer scheduling issues, along with slightly elevated costs related to asset relocation and redeployment that we do not expect going forward. In the Southwest region, which includes the Permian and Eagle Ford, revenue, operating income and adjusted EBITDA were $68,600,000 $700,000 $8,700,000 respectively for the Q3 of 2024. Speaker 300:09:36This represents a slight 2% sequential decrease in revenue, which slightly outpaced the decline in underlying regional rig count and frac spread count of approximately 3% 16% respectively. Segment operating income and adjusted EBITDA decreased by 73% 16% respectively, due largely to a short term shift in PSL mix driven by customer scheduling, including reduced revenue across our completion, production and intervention solutions, offset by increased revenue from our drilling solutions. For the NortheastMid Con segment, revenue, operating income and adjusted EBITDA were $52,400,000 $2,000,000 $11,000,000 respectively for the Q3 of 2024. This represents a 7% sequential increase in revenue driven largely by increased completions activity. Segment operating income and adjusted EBITDA increased by 180% 70% respectively largely due to higher activity levels, reduced white space within our completions PSLs and our successful implementation of operational and cost management efficiencies within the segment. Speaker 300:10:49At corporate, our operating loss and adjusted EBITDA loss for Q3 were $11,300,000 $8,400,000 respectively. Corporate adjusted EBITDA is expected to remain at similar levels going forward. Turning to our balance sheet, cash flow and capitalization. We ended the quarter with a cash balance of $83,000,000 and liquidity of $126,000,000 including $43,000,000 of availability not borrowed on our September 2024 borrowing base certificate. Our ABL and senior secured notes both mature in the fall of 2025. Speaker 300:11:25The ABL matures in either August or September 2020 5 based on a springing maturity and a senior secured notes mature November 1, 2025. Now that the call premium has fallen away and given our strong operating performance and momentum, optimism around 2025 and a Q3 annualized net leverage ratio below 2 times, we are actively considering our options to refinance our capital structure in a constructive manner. Q3 capital expenditures were $21,000,000 Q3 will be our highest CapEx quarter, mainly due to lumpy timing of early 2024 orders and is not indicative of a normalized level of quarterly CapEx for KLX at this activity level. Net CapEx defined as CapEx less asset sales was approximately $18,400,000 for the quarter. Looking ahead, we expect full year 2024 CapEx to be in the range of $55,000,000 to $60,000,000 with approximately 80% of full year CapEx to be earmarked for maintenance expenses. Speaker 300:12:33CapEx net of asset sales for the year to date period is approximately $40,000,000 of which only $30,000,000 is maintenance oriented. Our capital allocation strategy supports our high return proprietary product lines via prudent disciplined spending, while maintaining our existing asset base to ensure we can meet the demands of our customers' most challenging projects. Overall, our focus remains on maximizing margins, generating free cash flow, further deleveraging and maintaining the financial flexibility necessary to effectively execute our strategy. I'll now hand it back to Chris for his outlook and concluding remarks. Speaker 200:13:18Thanks, Keefer. As we look ahead, we believe our diversified portfolio and adaptable business model have positioned us well to navigate the market. We are well positioned with the right customers in the right basins to continue capturing market share and driving improved performance into 2025. Building on the strong foundation, it is worth reflecting on our journey. The results we've delivered over the past few years demonstrate the hard work and dedication of the KLX team. Speaker 200:13:51We successfully realigned our customer base, refocused our operations to ensure in basin scale, upgraded our asset fleet, launched cutting edge proprietary technology and consistently demonstrated market leading performance and execution. We've also delivered differentiated financial performance compared to peers during a time when the industry activity levels and market conditions have softened from the rig count peak in Q4 of 2022. For perspective, over the trailing 24 month period, KLX generated approximately $240,000,000 of adjusted EBITDA and reduced net debt by over 20%. As we think about current and future market dynamics, it's important to consider the broader industry trends. Despite near term volatility, the longer term outlook for oil and natural gas should continue to support sustained levels of capital investment and activity. Speaker 200:14:53While drilling and completion efficiencies have driven productivity gains year to date in the onshore U. S. Market, we're observing a potential plateau in those efficiency improvements. As our peers have noted, there's an expectation of an outsized impact from budget exhaustion and seasonality in the later part of this year, partly due to these efficiency gains. However, in 2025, we anticipate efficiency gains are likely to stabilize, making it challenging to envision continued production increases based on the current activity set. Speaker 200:15:31This doesn't necessarily indicate a dramatic uptick in U. S. Activity, but it does suggest the potential for growth. On the gas side, we continue to believe that LNG export and data center driven demand will lead to incremental gas directed activity. Given these drivers, we believe KLX is well positioned due to our outsized exposure to the larger operators, our unwavering focus on operational excellence and our proven ability to adapt quickly to evolving market conditions. Speaker 200:16:05Looking ahead to our seasonally slower Q4 and into 2025. For Q4, we expect a sequential decline in revenue of approximately 10% to 14%, primarily led by the upcoming winter holidays and customer budget exhaustion. Adjusted EBITDA margin during Q4 is expected to range between 9% 13%. While we anticipate the seasonal Q4 activity decline due to an extended Thanksgiving break and late December slowdown, we are encouraged about 2025. Q3 was our strongest quarter of the year and September was our strongest month of the year. Speaker 200:16:49We are actively engaged with new and existing customers on 2025 plans and these conversations have been very constructive and indicate incremental positive commercial momentum for 2025. This along with an expected non recurrence of the Q1 twenty twenty four safety and weather events should underpin a strong year over year growth, steady expanding margins and expanded free cash flow generation. Excluding the transitory impact of Q1, our annualized Q2 and Q3 combined adjusted EBITDA totaled approximately $110,000,000 illustrating KLX's earning capacity despite the recent market softness. We are optimistic about 2025 and this view is underpinned by latest customer feedback and what we know today, we remain vigilant about the macro market volatility, such as ongoing geopolitical tensions, commodity price volatility and corresponding shifts in customer spending patterns. As I mentioned earlier, KLX is much more nimble and able to be proactive and responsive to market conditions. Speaker 200:18:05As such, we are better able to manage our cost structure and offerings across various market environments. In summary, we believe KLX stands apart from its peers with our performance driven, technologically differentiated offerings, exemplary safety record and premier job execution. These capabilities combined with our geographic footprint contribute to our best in class competitive position. I would like to thank our customers and shareholders for their continued support of KLX and most importantly, our team members for their central role in our collective successes. With that, we'll now take your questions. Speaker 200:18:46Operator? Operator00:18:49Thank you. We'll now be conducting a question and answer Thank you. And our first question today is from the line of Steve Farazani with Sidoti and Company. Please proceed with your questions. Speaker 400:19:21Good morning, Chris. Good morning, Keefer. Thanks for all the detail on the call. Speaker 200:19:25Good morning, Steve. Good morning, Steve. Speaker 400:19:28I wanted to start with the to me the positive surprise was your strength in Northeast Mid Con. Obviously, that had been trending in one direction for several quarters following the rig count and completion activity. This quarter, we saw much better revenue sequentially in margins. The question is, was it anything specifically one off, how sustainable that is? Any kind of commentary you can give us around NortheastMid Con from the quarter? Speaker 200:19:55Yes, I appreciate the question, Steve. To your point, revenue was up 7%. It's predominantly, I think, Keefer mentioned in his prepared remarks, driven by pressure pumping, flowback and frac rentals, and we definitely saw a lot of margin expansion. I think that's kind of a tale of 2 tapes. It was continued rightsizing earlier in the year of our kind of Haynesville operation, and then it is overall revenue expansion. Speaker 200:20:19If you slice the geo between the Mid Con and the Northeast, the Northeast business also saw less white space in Q3 than it actually did in Q2. We just had some completions calendar issues in Q2. So I definitely think it was more normalized. And then likewise in the mid time, our accommodations business held in well and of course pressure pumping was up fairly materially quarter over quarter. Speaker 400:20:44Perfect. And then switch to the Rockies where I know in 2Q you had a really positive mix shifted maybe a little bit down this quarter. Can you talk a little bit about that Speaker 200:20:57shift? Yes. I think to your point, the Rockies had a lot of pent up demand, right, coming out of the transitory issues that we saw in Q1 with some of the safety stand downs, etcetera, in Q2. Q3 actually wasn't down that much. It was more flat. Speaker 200:21:12It's just to your point, the mix shift, the incremental revenue there was predominantly driven by really DB, coil tubing and wire lines, which are inherently lower margin product lines. But our tech services and our rentals platform held in well. You just didn't see the incrementals on the slight incremental revenue. Speaker 400:21:33Got it. When you think about cash flow this quarter, outside of the elevated CapEx in this quarter, it actually would have been a pretty good cash flow quarter. Could you help us out on how you're thinking? What's your target for year end in terms of can you get close to breakeven if the weather breaks your way positively obviously in 4Q? Speaker 200:21:58So I think, look, with regards to 4Q specifically, we're clearly reporting a bit earlier this year than normal this quarter. So I think our estimate range is a bit wider maybe than usual. CLX rolled 12% sequentially top line last year. This year seems a bit similar, with some of the caveats being we got mid week holidays with Christmas on a Wednesday. So as you know, operators are more prone to taking off extended holiday days. Speaker 200:22:27What we typically see is our drilling services hold in well, drilling rigs continue to stay really active, completions roll a little bit and production and intervention services roll a bit more severely than the first two TSLs, which can kind of pressure margins. That being said, look, this year, the Rockies and the forecast on the P and I side is holding in thus far exceptionally well. The Rockies has been warmer than usual. And so I think our range on margin may be candidly a bit conservative. But Keefer, anything else on free cash flow? Speaker 300:23:05Yes. Just on the cash flow side, related to CapEx starting there, as you noted, the Q3 CapEx was outside, so it was a little bit lumpy there. And I think as we discussed in the prepared remarks, is that an elevated level that's not reflective of what we view as normalized capital spending for this level of market activity. So we do expect to see a normalization of capital spending into Q4. Implicitly, we're kind of guiding to Q4 CapEx in the $5,000,000 to $10,000,000 range to get to the full year 2024 number that we've guided to. Speaker 300:23:45And then the only other thing I'd point out as you think about Q4 cash flow is that we do have a coupon payment on November 1. So that does hit in the Q4 as well. I think as you transition to thinking about 2025, the cash flow trends clear up. And I think as we're thinking about next year, Chris will probably get into it and he did a little bit in his prepared remarks, but we are expecting constructive growth from both top line and free cash flow perspective as you think about 2025. Speaker 400:24:20Excellent. And that's my last question for you, Chris, is when you start thinking about 2025, I share your optimism, you ticked off a lot of the positive points in terms of the LNG export capacity that's coming, power consumption that's rising, maybe protect production efficiency plateauing. That being said, a lot of people are sort of pushing the recovery to the right a bit. How as you go into budget season and planning for CapEx next year, how do you plan for that knowing that there is an expectation that improvements coming, the timing remains very challenging? Speaker 200:24:56Yes. I think there's probably 3 different legs to that stool. 1st, if you omit the Q1 transitory quarters we've already talked about and look at just Q2 plus Q3 annualized run rate, KLX is on $110,000,000 annualized run rate for adjusted EBITDA this year. And some of that product line mix shift as we've talked about, some of it is strategic positioning and realignment. When you look at Q3 performance for KLX and we talked about this, I believe last quarter, we generated $334,000 per average operating rig in North America. Speaker 200:25:33That's the 3rd highest revenue per operated rig since the merger with QES and KLX. We generated almost $50,000 of adjusted EBITDA per average rig. So I think the team has done exceptionally well. And when you roll that forward, as we sit here today, to your point, crude pricing has been episodic itself and as of late, but it rebounded yesterday with some of the news out in the market. And gas pricing hasn't recovered as quick as everybody thought due to some of the LNG facility delays, etcetera. Speaker 200:26:04That being said, the gas demand for all the reasons you referenced data center, LNG, etcetera, is around the corner. The forward strip when you get to midpoint of next year is highly constructive and stays that way as far out as you can see in the strip with a 3 handle plus, if not a 4 handle. And so I'm already aware of kind of high single digit rig count adds in the Haynesville in the Q4 and early January of next year. And so when you add that and couple that with numerous customer wins that we've had in many of our other PSLs in the oil basins, we view next year as an up year overall and we think we're going to start off the Q1 on kind of a high note. So as we talked about, it doesn't take much incremental drilling and completions demand from oil directed activity with our footprint and our geographic diversification to really drive incremental free cash flow. Speaker 200:27:07And so as of now, we expect 2025 revenue to be up 5% to 10%, probably minimum and we'll affirm up that guidance when we get into our Q4 announcement. And we kind of believe Q2 and Q3 margins are fairly normalized for 2025 type year. And to Keefer's point, it's very early. We haven't finalized the budget process yet by any stretch. We're just kicking it off real time. Speaker 200:27:34But we would expect 2025 gross maintenance CapEx to probably be somewhere in the $40,000,000 to $50,000,000 range. And to your last question, given investments we've made to date, we don't have a lot of pent up CapEx need to stand up incremental assets. And so I think we're very ready to go if and when that incremental activity does come out come to fruition. Speaker 400:27:59Fantastic, Chris. Appreciate all the detail. Thanks, Keefer. Speaker 200:28:03Absolutely. Appreciate it, Steve. Operator00:28:06Our next question is from the line of Blake MacLean with Daniel Energy Partners. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 500:28:14Hey, good morning, guys. Thanks for taking my call. Speaker 200:28:17Yes, good morning, Blake. Yes, Speaker 500:28:19so thanks for all the great color on your sort of cautious optimism for 2025. One of the things that's been a headwind obviously has been D and P efficiency gains. And you guys talking about plateauing in improvements and stabilizations there. I'd love for you to just riff a little bit on that and what you're seeing and maybe dig Speaker 200:28:40a little deeper for us. Yes. Look, it's a great question. When you think about we always kind of say you can't drill a well or complete a well in a day, right? Or you can't drill them in 0. Speaker 200:28:52And I think we've seen that. And some of the efficiency gains are not just service time to drill and complete wells and bring them online, as you know, but it's also those days relative to the production you're receiving out of the well. And so as we think about operators coming out of non core situations trying to stretch additional whether it's simul frac, lateral length, etcetera, we candidly think we're exceptionally well positioned when you think about our coiled tubing platform, etcetera. And so part of our strategy has to be and we talk about this with the team all the time is to get properly compensated by our customers and partner up and show them the KPIs, show them the data to drive incremental pricing for the efficiencies that we're delivering. And I think in certain business lines and certain DSLs, we've done that exceptionally well. Speaker 200:29:45In others, there's probably room to go and candidly those are opportunity sets for the 1st part of next year and conversations we're having internally around customer outreach discussions to candidly try to move price based off of performance and efficiency gains. And I think those performance and efficiency gains can assist in those conversations. Speaker 500:30:09Got it. Got it. That makes sense. And then the other my other question was around another headwind we've had, which is consolidation. And you guys are in a huge position there. Speaker 500:30:23Maybe you could give us some color on your conversations with these larger consolidated upstream entities. Anything maybe you would point to in terms of how they're focusing on technology or higher spec equipment or safety or some of the things that might give you an edge there? Speaker 200:30:38It's a great question. We I think we had it in our prepared remarks, but we were just recently named service provider of choice in one specific PSL that I won't mention here for competitive reasons, for one of the blue chip majors across all of North America due to our ability to deliver high spec, in spec equipment with redundancy capabilities and primarily due to our safety initiatives and our safety scores that we've seen this year. And so we've seen a number of the consolidators to your point in the E and P space bring together a number of their service providers. And I think the general consensus and takeaway is that the larger consolidators would like to see fewer service providers rather than more. And that's for a whole host of reasons that you're all too familiar with when it comes to number of invoices, the ability to bundle services and packages. Speaker 200:31:34But what I think we're seeing more and more today is the ability of a requirement of a service company to bring technology, bring in spec equipment. That way the only way you can drive those efficiencies we talked about in your prior question is to eliminate NPT, eliminate safety stand downs like we saw last year, specifically in the Rockies, etcetera, so that you have that uptime and ability to drive those efficiencies. And so I think KLX is exceptionally well positioned and that's a topic and a selling point that we make to our clients. And candidly, it's one of the reasons outside of just a lack of capital to deploy into the OFS space that we've seen from private equity firms as they've shifted their focus along with insurance demands and inflationary pressures on some of the smaller mom and top that we candidly think we're positioned very well to garner more market share, which has been what's driving that revenue per rig count metric up in the face of 7 quarters of declines, but also position us as an M and A counterparty and consolidator within the space in certain product lines. Speaker 500:32:45Well, good stuff. Since you went there at the end, let me just sneak one more in. How do you think about the opportunities in the marketplace for consolidation going forward? How do you think about approaching M and A deals? What's a good deal? Speaker 500:32:59What makes a Speaker 300:33:00good deal? What you looking for? Speaker 200:33:03Yes. I think, kind of 2 different questions. What makes a good deal is strategic fit industrial logic and hopefully a bit of synergy value. As we've looked at the across the landscape this year, we've seen more dead deals in late 2023 and early 20 24, what I would deem really high quality companies. And it's been a bit surprising. Speaker 200:33:27So I think there's still a number of opportunities out there to reengage as you get into 2025. And we're dead deals for a whole host of reasons, but we saw those kind of throughout the year predominantly tied to bid ask spread issues, etcetera. I think there will be somewhat of a capitulation in the market as OFS multiples have kind of expanded as consensus estimates have rolled. And our pitch to counterparties is, look, there's a lot of pent up opportunity in KLX's share price post refi, post M and A opportunity set. If you extract value, take equity in our share price, that's an accretive deal that's deleveraging, it really sets up well for a counterparty to be at a time there exit utilizing KLX shares. Speaker 200:34:21We're not going to be acquirers. We've said it time and time again. We're not going to lever up to be an all cash acquirer. We've seen that blueprint for lack of success in the space. We'd rather align counterparties with equity. Speaker 200:34:35So they are aligned with the outcome of the deal over the next 3 to 4 or 5 years. And that's kind of how we set up on opportunity sets. Speaker 500:34:45Good stuff, Chris, Keefer. Thanks very much for the time this morning. Speaker 200:34:50Thank you, Blake. Operator00:34:52Thank you. This concludes the question and answer portion of the call. I'll now hand the call back to Chris Baker for closing remarks. Speaker 200:34:59Thank you once again for joining us on this call and for your continued interest in KLX. We look forward to speaking with you again next quarter. Operator00:35:09Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for your participation. This does conclude today's teleconference. 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There are 6 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Greetings, and welcome to the KLX Energy Services 20 24 Third Quarter Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. A question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Ken Dennard with Investor Relations. Operator00:00:26Thank you, Mr. Dennard. You may begin. Speaker 100:00:29Thank you, operator, and good morning, everyone. We appreciate you joining us for the KLX Energy Services conference call and webcast to review Q3 2024 results. With me today are Chris Baker, KLX Energy's President and Chief Executive Officer and Keefer Lehner, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Following my remarks, management will provide a high level commentary on the financial details of the Q3 and outlook before opening the call for your questions. There will be a replay of today's call that will be available via webcast on the company's website at klx.com There will also be a telephonic recorded replay available until November 15, 2024. Speaker 100:01:16More information on how to access these replay features was included in yesterday's earnings release. Please note that information reported on this call speaks only as of today, November 1, 2024, and therefore, you're advised the time sensitive information may no longer be accurate as of the time of any replay listening or transcript reading. Also, comments on this call will contain forward looking statements within the meaning of the United States federal securities laws. These forward looking statements reflect the current views of KLX Management. However, various risks and uncertainties and contingencies could cause actual results, performance or achievements to differ materially from those expressed in the statements made by management. Speaker 100:02:03The listener or reader is encouraged to read the annual report on Form 10 ks, quarterly reports on Form 10 Q and current reports on Form 8 ks to understand certain of those risks, uncertainties and contingencies. The comments today will also include certain non GAAP financial measures. Additional details and reconciliations to the most direct comparably GAAP financial measures are included in the quarterly press release, which can be found on the KLX Energy website. And now with that behind me, I'd like to turn the call over to Chris Baker. Chris? Speaker 200:02:38Thank you, Ken, and good morning, everyone. Thanks for joining our Q3 call, where we will discuss our Q3 results and provide color on market trends and KLX's outlook. Starting with our Q3 results, we are pleased to report another strong quarter for KLX. Our team's execution in the current market continues to be exemplary and our results came in at the high end of our previously increased Q3 guidance ranges. We experienced further improvement over our strong second quarter results outperforming broader market macro trends. Speaker 200:03:15Specifically, our consolidated 3rd quarter results included $189,000,000 in revenue, dollars 28,000,000 in adjusted EBITDA and adjusted EBITDA margin of 15%, further demonstrating the overall strength of our geographic mix, customer mix, product service offerings and market positioning. Despite another consecutive sequential 3% decline in average quarterly operated U. S. Land rigs and a 7% sequential decline in active U. S. Speaker 200:03:50Frac spreads, KLX was able to navigate the market to deliver another strong quarter. In fact, KLX managed to generate approximately $334,000 per average operated U. S. Land rig, the 3rd highest revenue per average rig metric since we began starting to track that metric post the merger. By leveraging our geographic diversification and strong customer relationships and market position, the continued strength of our 3rd quarter also stands out against the backdrop of ongoing industry challenges and differentiates KLX from our non diversified peers, demonstrating the merit of our strategy and our ability to execute effectively across various market conditions. Speaker 200:04:40Geographically, the Southwest represented 36% of Q3 revenue compared to 39% in Q2. The NortheastMid Con represented 28% of revenue compared to 27% in Q2 and the Rockies represented 36% of revenue compared to 34% in Q2 illustrating continued strength in our Rockies business, steady performance in the Southwest and a sharp rebound in the Northeast Mid Con compared to Q2. From an end market perspective, completion focused activity continues to drive approximately half of our revenue and accounted for 54% of Q3 revenue, up from 51% in Q2. Production and Intervention drove 25% of quarterly revenue, down from 28% in Q2 and Drilling drove 21% flat to Q2. Q3 had an improved completions utilization calendar and saw continued strength across our production and intervention directed solutions. Speaker 200:05:49Additionally, we experienced continued positive momentum with our KLX downhole technology offerings, differentiated fleet of rental assets and market leading completions performance. Our safety record continues to be industry leading with continued KLX record low total recordable incident rates. These technological capabilities combined with our operational expertise and geographic footprint spanning key basins contribute to our best in class competitive positioning with the largest customers in the market. I'll now turn the call over to Keefer to review our financial results in greater detail and we'll return later in the call to discuss our outlook and optimism for 2025. Keefer? Speaker 300:06:40Thanks, Chris. Good morning, everyone. As Chris mentioned, we reported Q3 revenue of $189,000,000 representing a 5% sequential increase from Q2. Our consolidated Q3 adjusted EBITDA was $27,800,000 up 3% sequentially with an adjusted EBITDA margin of 15%, which was consistent with Q2. On a consolidated basis, the sequential increase in revenue was driven by improved crew utilization and increased activity with higher contributions from the Rockies and NortheastMid Con segments and within those our coiled tubing and pressure pumping product service lines drove a majority of the sequential improvement respectively. Speaker 300:07:25The Southwest and Northeast Mid Con segments contributed 36% 28% of Q3 revenue respectively, led in the Southwest by our directional drilling, rentals and frac rentals product service lines and in the Mid Con by our pressure pumping, accommodations and directional drilling offerings. The Rockies contributed 36% led by coiled tubing, rentals and tech services. Total SG and A expense for Q3 was $21,200,000 When you back out non recurring costs, adjusted SG and A expense for Q3 would have been $18,600,000 or just 9.9 percent of quarterly revenue. Cost structure changes we implemented in Q2 related to insurance, IT and third party professional fees continued to benefit us in Q3. These cost reductions are expected to continue through the remainder of 2024 and beyond. Speaker 300:08:25Now moving to our segment results. For the Rocky Mountain segment, revenue, operating income and adjusted EBITDA were $67,900,000 $9,700,000 $16,600,000 respectively for the Q3 of 2024. This represents a 10.6% sequential increase in revenue over the Q2 of 2024, largely due to incremental activity and mixed movement on pricing depending on the underlying PSL. Operating income and adjusted EBITDA decreased sequentially by 8% and 3% respectively, driven largely by a shift in PSL mix, including reduced rentals activity due to short term customer scheduling issues, along with slightly elevated costs related to asset relocation and redeployment that we do not expect going forward. In the Southwest region, which includes the Permian and Eagle Ford, revenue, operating income and adjusted EBITDA were $68,600,000 $700,000 $8,700,000 respectively for the Q3 of 2024. Speaker 300:09:36This represents a slight 2% sequential decrease in revenue, which slightly outpaced the decline in underlying regional rig count and frac spread count of approximately 3% 16% respectively. Segment operating income and adjusted EBITDA decreased by 73% 16% respectively, due largely to a short term shift in PSL mix driven by customer scheduling, including reduced revenue across our completion, production and intervention solutions, offset by increased revenue from our drilling solutions. For the NortheastMid Con segment, revenue, operating income and adjusted EBITDA were $52,400,000 $2,000,000 $11,000,000 respectively for the Q3 of 2024. This represents a 7% sequential increase in revenue driven largely by increased completions activity. Segment operating income and adjusted EBITDA increased by 180% 70% respectively largely due to higher activity levels, reduced white space within our completions PSLs and our successful implementation of operational and cost management efficiencies within the segment. Speaker 300:10:49At corporate, our operating loss and adjusted EBITDA loss for Q3 were $11,300,000 $8,400,000 respectively. Corporate adjusted EBITDA is expected to remain at similar levels going forward. Turning to our balance sheet, cash flow and capitalization. We ended the quarter with a cash balance of $83,000,000 and liquidity of $126,000,000 including $43,000,000 of availability not borrowed on our September 2024 borrowing base certificate. Our ABL and senior secured notes both mature in the fall of 2025. Speaker 300:11:25The ABL matures in either August or September 2020 5 based on a springing maturity and a senior secured notes mature November 1, 2025. Now that the call premium has fallen away and given our strong operating performance and momentum, optimism around 2025 and a Q3 annualized net leverage ratio below 2 times, we are actively considering our options to refinance our capital structure in a constructive manner. Q3 capital expenditures were $21,000,000 Q3 will be our highest CapEx quarter, mainly due to lumpy timing of early 2024 orders and is not indicative of a normalized level of quarterly CapEx for KLX at this activity level. Net CapEx defined as CapEx less asset sales was approximately $18,400,000 for the quarter. Looking ahead, we expect full year 2024 CapEx to be in the range of $55,000,000 to $60,000,000 with approximately 80% of full year CapEx to be earmarked for maintenance expenses. Speaker 300:12:33CapEx net of asset sales for the year to date period is approximately $40,000,000 of which only $30,000,000 is maintenance oriented. Our capital allocation strategy supports our high return proprietary product lines via prudent disciplined spending, while maintaining our existing asset base to ensure we can meet the demands of our customers' most challenging projects. Overall, our focus remains on maximizing margins, generating free cash flow, further deleveraging and maintaining the financial flexibility necessary to effectively execute our strategy. I'll now hand it back to Chris for his outlook and concluding remarks. Speaker 200:13:18Thanks, Keefer. As we look ahead, we believe our diversified portfolio and adaptable business model have positioned us well to navigate the market. We are well positioned with the right customers in the right basins to continue capturing market share and driving improved performance into 2025. Building on the strong foundation, it is worth reflecting on our journey. The results we've delivered over the past few years demonstrate the hard work and dedication of the KLX team. Speaker 200:13:51We successfully realigned our customer base, refocused our operations to ensure in basin scale, upgraded our asset fleet, launched cutting edge proprietary technology and consistently demonstrated market leading performance and execution. We've also delivered differentiated financial performance compared to peers during a time when the industry activity levels and market conditions have softened from the rig count peak in Q4 of 2022. For perspective, over the trailing 24 month period, KLX generated approximately $240,000,000 of adjusted EBITDA and reduced net debt by over 20%. As we think about current and future market dynamics, it's important to consider the broader industry trends. Despite near term volatility, the longer term outlook for oil and natural gas should continue to support sustained levels of capital investment and activity. Speaker 200:14:53While drilling and completion efficiencies have driven productivity gains year to date in the onshore U. S. Market, we're observing a potential plateau in those efficiency improvements. As our peers have noted, there's an expectation of an outsized impact from budget exhaustion and seasonality in the later part of this year, partly due to these efficiency gains. However, in 2025, we anticipate efficiency gains are likely to stabilize, making it challenging to envision continued production increases based on the current activity set. Speaker 200:15:31This doesn't necessarily indicate a dramatic uptick in U. S. Activity, but it does suggest the potential for growth. On the gas side, we continue to believe that LNG export and data center driven demand will lead to incremental gas directed activity. Given these drivers, we believe KLX is well positioned due to our outsized exposure to the larger operators, our unwavering focus on operational excellence and our proven ability to adapt quickly to evolving market conditions. Speaker 200:16:05Looking ahead to our seasonally slower Q4 and into 2025. For Q4, we expect a sequential decline in revenue of approximately 10% to 14%, primarily led by the upcoming winter holidays and customer budget exhaustion. Adjusted EBITDA margin during Q4 is expected to range between 9% 13%. While we anticipate the seasonal Q4 activity decline due to an extended Thanksgiving break and late December slowdown, we are encouraged about 2025. Q3 was our strongest quarter of the year and September was our strongest month of the year. Speaker 200:16:49We are actively engaged with new and existing customers on 2025 plans and these conversations have been very constructive and indicate incremental positive commercial momentum for 2025. This along with an expected non recurrence of the Q1 twenty twenty four safety and weather events should underpin a strong year over year growth, steady expanding margins and expanded free cash flow generation. Excluding the transitory impact of Q1, our annualized Q2 and Q3 combined adjusted EBITDA totaled approximately $110,000,000 illustrating KLX's earning capacity despite the recent market softness. We are optimistic about 2025 and this view is underpinned by latest customer feedback and what we know today, we remain vigilant about the macro market volatility, such as ongoing geopolitical tensions, commodity price volatility and corresponding shifts in customer spending patterns. As I mentioned earlier, KLX is much more nimble and able to be proactive and responsive to market conditions. Speaker 200:18:05As such, we are better able to manage our cost structure and offerings across various market environments. In summary, we believe KLX stands apart from its peers with our performance driven, technologically differentiated offerings, exemplary safety record and premier job execution. These capabilities combined with our geographic footprint contribute to our best in class competitive position. I would like to thank our customers and shareholders for their continued support of KLX and most importantly, our team members for their central role in our collective successes. With that, we'll now take your questions. Speaker 200:18:46Operator? Operator00:18:49Thank you. We'll now be conducting a question and answer Thank you. And our first question today is from the line of Steve Farazani with Sidoti and Company. Please proceed with your questions. Speaker 400:19:21Good morning, Chris. Good morning, Keefer. Thanks for all the detail on the call. Speaker 200:19:25Good morning, Steve. Good morning, Steve. Speaker 400:19:28I wanted to start with the to me the positive surprise was your strength in Northeast Mid Con. Obviously, that had been trending in one direction for several quarters following the rig count and completion activity. This quarter, we saw much better revenue sequentially in margins. The question is, was it anything specifically one off, how sustainable that is? Any kind of commentary you can give us around NortheastMid Con from the quarter? Speaker 200:19:55Yes, I appreciate the question, Steve. To your point, revenue was up 7%. It's predominantly, I think, Keefer mentioned in his prepared remarks, driven by pressure pumping, flowback and frac rentals, and we definitely saw a lot of margin expansion. I think that's kind of a tale of 2 tapes. It was continued rightsizing earlier in the year of our kind of Haynesville operation, and then it is overall revenue expansion. Speaker 200:20:19If you slice the geo between the Mid Con and the Northeast, the Northeast business also saw less white space in Q3 than it actually did in Q2. We just had some completions calendar issues in Q2. So I definitely think it was more normalized. And then likewise in the mid time, our accommodations business held in well and of course pressure pumping was up fairly materially quarter over quarter. Speaker 400:20:44Perfect. And then switch to the Rockies where I know in 2Q you had a really positive mix shifted maybe a little bit down this quarter. Can you talk a little bit about that Speaker 200:20:57shift? Yes. I think to your point, the Rockies had a lot of pent up demand, right, coming out of the transitory issues that we saw in Q1 with some of the safety stand downs, etcetera, in Q2. Q3 actually wasn't down that much. It was more flat. Speaker 200:21:12It's just to your point, the mix shift, the incremental revenue there was predominantly driven by really DB, coil tubing and wire lines, which are inherently lower margin product lines. But our tech services and our rentals platform held in well. You just didn't see the incrementals on the slight incremental revenue. Speaker 400:21:33Got it. When you think about cash flow this quarter, outside of the elevated CapEx in this quarter, it actually would have been a pretty good cash flow quarter. Could you help us out on how you're thinking? What's your target for year end in terms of can you get close to breakeven if the weather breaks your way positively obviously in 4Q? Speaker 200:21:58So I think, look, with regards to 4Q specifically, we're clearly reporting a bit earlier this year than normal this quarter. So I think our estimate range is a bit wider maybe than usual. CLX rolled 12% sequentially top line last year. This year seems a bit similar, with some of the caveats being we got mid week holidays with Christmas on a Wednesday. So as you know, operators are more prone to taking off extended holiday days. Speaker 200:22:27What we typically see is our drilling services hold in well, drilling rigs continue to stay really active, completions roll a little bit and production and intervention services roll a bit more severely than the first two TSLs, which can kind of pressure margins. That being said, look, this year, the Rockies and the forecast on the P and I side is holding in thus far exceptionally well. The Rockies has been warmer than usual. And so I think our range on margin may be candidly a bit conservative. But Keefer, anything else on free cash flow? Speaker 300:23:05Yes. Just on the cash flow side, related to CapEx starting there, as you noted, the Q3 CapEx was outside, so it was a little bit lumpy there. And I think as we discussed in the prepared remarks, is that an elevated level that's not reflective of what we view as normalized capital spending for this level of market activity. So we do expect to see a normalization of capital spending into Q4. Implicitly, we're kind of guiding to Q4 CapEx in the $5,000,000 to $10,000,000 range to get to the full year 2024 number that we've guided to. Speaker 300:23:45And then the only other thing I'd point out as you think about Q4 cash flow is that we do have a coupon payment on November 1. So that does hit in the Q4 as well. I think as you transition to thinking about 2025, the cash flow trends clear up. And I think as we're thinking about next year, Chris will probably get into it and he did a little bit in his prepared remarks, but we are expecting constructive growth from both top line and free cash flow perspective as you think about 2025. Speaker 400:24:20Excellent. And that's my last question for you, Chris, is when you start thinking about 2025, I share your optimism, you ticked off a lot of the positive points in terms of the LNG export capacity that's coming, power consumption that's rising, maybe protect production efficiency plateauing. That being said, a lot of people are sort of pushing the recovery to the right a bit. How as you go into budget season and planning for CapEx next year, how do you plan for that knowing that there is an expectation that improvements coming, the timing remains very challenging? Speaker 200:24:56Yes. I think there's probably 3 different legs to that stool. 1st, if you omit the Q1 transitory quarters we've already talked about and look at just Q2 plus Q3 annualized run rate, KLX is on $110,000,000 annualized run rate for adjusted EBITDA this year. And some of that product line mix shift as we've talked about, some of it is strategic positioning and realignment. When you look at Q3 performance for KLX and we talked about this, I believe last quarter, we generated $334,000 per average operating rig in North America. Speaker 200:25:33That's the 3rd highest revenue per operated rig since the merger with QES and KLX. We generated almost $50,000 of adjusted EBITDA per average rig. So I think the team has done exceptionally well. And when you roll that forward, as we sit here today, to your point, crude pricing has been episodic itself and as of late, but it rebounded yesterday with some of the news out in the market. And gas pricing hasn't recovered as quick as everybody thought due to some of the LNG facility delays, etcetera. Speaker 200:26:04That being said, the gas demand for all the reasons you referenced data center, LNG, etcetera, is around the corner. The forward strip when you get to midpoint of next year is highly constructive and stays that way as far out as you can see in the strip with a 3 handle plus, if not a 4 handle. And so I'm already aware of kind of high single digit rig count adds in the Haynesville in the Q4 and early January of next year. And so when you add that and couple that with numerous customer wins that we've had in many of our other PSLs in the oil basins, we view next year as an up year overall and we think we're going to start off the Q1 on kind of a high note. So as we talked about, it doesn't take much incremental drilling and completions demand from oil directed activity with our footprint and our geographic diversification to really drive incremental free cash flow. Speaker 200:27:07And so as of now, we expect 2025 revenue to be up 5% to 10%, probably minimum and we'll affirm up that guidance when we get into our Q4 announcement. And we kind of believe Q2 and Q3 margins are fairly normalized for 2025 type year. And to Keefer's point, it's very early. We haven't finalized the budget process yet by any stretch. We're just kicking it off real time. Speaker 200:27:34But we would expect 2025 gross maintenance CapEx to probably be somewhere in the $40,000,000 to $50,000,000 range. And to your last question, given investments we've made to date, we don't have a lot of pent up CapEx need to stand up incremental assets. And so I think we're very ready to go if and when that incremental activity does come out come to fruition. Speaker 400:27:59Fantastic, Chris. Appreciate all the detail. Thanks, Keefer. Speaker 200:28:03Absolutely. Appreciate it, Steve. Operator00:28:06Our next question is from the line of Blake MacLean with Daniel Energy Partners. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 500:28:14Hey, good morning, guys. Thanks for taking my call. Speaker 200:28:17Yes, good morning, Blake. Yes, Speaker 500:28:19so thanks for all the great color on your sort of cautious optimism for 2025. One of the things that's been a headwind obviously has been D and P efficiency gains. And you guys talking about plateauing in improvements and stabilizations there. I'd love for you to just riff a little bit on that and what you're seeing and maybe dig Speaker 200:28:40a little deeper for us. Yes. Look, it's a great question. When you think about we always kind of say you can't drill a well or complete a well in a day, right? Or you can't drill them in 0. Speaker 200:28:52And I think we've seen that. And some of the efficiency gains are not just service time to drill and complete wells and bring them online, as you know, but it's also those days relative to the production you're receiving out of the well. And so as we think about operators coming out of non core situations trying to stretch additional whether it's simul frac, lateral length, etcetera, we candidly think we're exceptionally well positioned when you think about our coiled tubing platform, etcetera. And so part of our strategy has to be and we talk about this with the team all the time is to get properly compensated by our customers and partner up and show them the KPIs, show them the data to drive incremental pricing for the efficiencies that we're delivering. And I think in certain business lines and certain DSLs, we've done that exceptionally well. Speaker 200:29:45In others, there's probably room to go and candidly those are opportunity sets for the 1st part of next year and conversations we're having internally around customer outreach discussions to candidly try to move price based off of performance and efficiency gains. And I think those performance and efficiency gains can assist in those conversations. Speaker 500:30:09Got it. Got it. That makes sense. And then the other my other question was around another headwind we've had, which is consolidation. And you guys are in a huge position there. Speaker 500:30:23Maybe you could give us some color on your conversations with these larger consolidated upstream entities. Anything maybe you would point to in terms of how they're focusing on technology or higher spec equipment or safety or some of the things that might give you an edge there? Speaker 200:30:38It's a great question. We I think we had it in our prepared remarks, but we were just recently named service provider of choice in one specific PSL that I won't mention here for competitive reasons, for one of the blue chip majors across all of North America due to our ability to deliver high spec, in spec equipment with redundancy capabilities and primarily due to our safety initiatives and our safety scores that we've seen this year. And so we've seen a number of the consolidators to your point in the E and P space bring together a number of their service providers. And I think the general consensus and takeaway is that the larger consolidators would like to see fewer service providers rather than more. And that's for a whole host of reasons that you're all too familiar with when it comes to number of invoices, the ability to bundle services and packages. Speaker 200:31:34But what I think we're seeing more and more today is the ability of a requirement of a service company to bring technology, bring in spec equipment. That way the only way you can drive those efficiencies we talked about in your prior question is to eliminate NPT, eliminate safety stand downs like we saw last year, specifically in the Rockies, etcetera, so that you have that uptime and ability to drive those efficiencies. And so I think KLX is exceptionally well positioned and that's a topic and a selling point that we make to our clients. And candidly, it's one of the reasons outside of just a lack of capital to deploy into the OFS space that we've seen from private equity firms as they've shifted their focus along with insurance demands and inflationary pressures on some of the smaller mom and top that we candidly think we're positioned very well to garner more market share, which has been what's driving that revenue per rig count metric up in the face of 7 quarters of declines, but also position us as an M and A counterparty and consolidator within the space in certain product lines. Speaker 500:32:45Well, good stuff. Since you went there at the end, let me just sneak one more in. How do you think about the opportunities in the marketplace for consolidation going forward? How do you think about approaching M and A deals? What's a good deal? Speaker 500:32:59What makes a Speaker 300:33:00good deal? What you looking for? Speaker 200:33:03Yes. I think, kind of 2 different questions. What makes a good deal is strategic fit industrial logic and hopefully a bit of synergy value. As we've looked at the across the landscape this year, we've seen more dead deals in late 2023 and early 20 24, what I would deem really high quality companies. And it's been a bit surprising. Speaker 200:33:27So I think there's still a number of opportunities out there to reengage as you get into 2025. And we're dead deals for a whole host of reasons, but we saw those kind of throughout the year predominantly tied to bid ask spread issues, etcetera. I think there will be somewhat of a capitulation in the market as OFS multiples have kind of expanded as consensus estimates have rolled. And our pitch to counterparties is, look, there's a lot of pent up opportunity in KLX's share price post refi, post M and A opportunity set. If you extract value, take equity in our share price, that's an accretive deal that's deleveraging, it really sets up well for a counterparty to be at a time there exit utilizing KLX shares. Speaker 200:34:21We're not going to be acquirers. We've said it time and time again. We're not going to lever up to be an all cash acquirer. We've seen that blueprint for lack of success in the space. We'd rather align counterparties with equity. Speaker 200:34:35So they are aligned with the outcome of the deal over the next 3 to 4 or 5 years. And that's kind of how we set up on opportunity sets. Speaker 500:34:45Good stuff, Chris, Keefer. Thanks very much for the time this morning. Speaker 200:34:50Thank you, Blake. Operator00:34:52Thank you. This concludes the question and answer portion of the call. I'll now hand the call back to Chris Baker for closing remarks. Speaker 200:34:59Thank you once again for joining us on this call and for your continued interest in KLX. We look forward to speaking with you again next quarter. Operator00:35:09Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for your participation. This does conclude today's teleconference. You may disconnect your lines at this time and have a wonderful day.Read morePowered by