NYSE:EAF GrafTech International Q3 2024 Earnings Report $0.64 +0.03 (+5.23%) Closing price 04/17/2025 03:59 PM EasternExtended Trading$0.70 +0.06 (+9.22%) As of 04/17/2025 05:23 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. Earnings HistoryForecast GrafTech International EPS ResultsActual EPS-$0.13Consensus EPS -$0.14Beat/MissBeat by +$0.01One Year Ago EPS-$0.08GrafTech International Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$130.65 millionExpected Revenue$128.14 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$2.51 millionYoY Revenue GrowthN/AGrafTech International Announcement DetailsQuarterQ3 2024Date11/12/2024TimeBefore Market OpensConference Call DateTuesday, November 12, 2024Conference Call Time10:00AM ETUpcoming EarningsGrafTech International's Q1 2025 earnings is scheduled for Friday, April 25, 2025, with a conference call scheduled at 10:00 AM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Q1 2025 Earnings ReportConference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)SEC FilingEarnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by GrafTech International Q3 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrNovember 12, 2024 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 10 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to the Graptech Third Quarter 20 24 Earnings Conference Call and Webcast. This call is being recorded on Tuesday, November 12, 2024. I would now like to turn the conference over to Mike Dillon, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:34Thank you. Good morning and welcome to GrafTech International's Q3 2024 earnings call. All with me today are Tim Flanagan, Chief Executive Officer Jeremy Halford, Chief Operating Officer and Rory O'Donnell, Chief Financial Officer. Tim will begin with opening comments. Jeremy will then discuss safety, the commercial environment, sales and operational matters. Speaker 100:00:57Rory will review our quarterly results and other financial details, and Tim will close with comments on our outlook. We will then open the call to questions. Turning to our next slide. As a reminder, some of the matters discussed on this call may include forward looking statements regarding, among other things, performance, trends and strategies. These statements are based on current expectations and are subject to risks and uncertainties. Speaker 100:01:22Factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those indicated by forward looking statements are shown here. We will also discuss certain non GAAP financial measures and these slides include relevant non GAAP reconciliations. You can find these slides in the Investor Relations section of our website at www.graftech.com. A replay of the call will also be available on our website. I'll now turn the call over to Tim. Speaker 200:01:48Good morning and thank you for joining GrafTech's Q3 earnings call. During the call this morning, we'll discuss the results for the quarter, our current outlook for the industry and our business, and importantly, provide an overview of the financing transactions we announced this morning. Before getting into these topics, I'd like to take a moment to introduce our recently appointed CFO, Rory O'Donnell. With over 2 decades of experience in senior financial positions, including more than a decade serving in leadership roles at companies within the metals and mining space, we are fortunate to have Rory as part of our team and I look forward to working alongside him. Let me turn the call over to Rory to make a few comments. Speaker 300:02:25Thank you, Tim and good morning everyone. It's a pleasure to join you this morning to report our Q3 results. Since I joined in early September, I've spent much of my time getting to know GrafTech team, visiting many of our world class assets and diving deep into the strategic financing transaction that we're pleased to discuss with you today. For those of you that I've yet to meet, I look forward to connecting and personally thanking you for your interest in GrafTech. I trust we share the same enthusiasm for the future as we take steps to stabilize our position in the market, regain share and drive value for all of our stakeholders. Speaker 300:03:01Also, thank you to the Board and management team for welcoming me and for your guidance and support. With that, I'll turn it back to Tim to begin our presentation. Speaker 200:03:11In the Q3, we grew volume, significantly reduced our operating margin and generated positive free cash flow. In addition, we're capitalizing on an opportunity to improve our liquidity position via a new financing transaction. Importantly, the announced transaction has been structured in a manner to preserve our strategic flexibility to pursue new growth opportunities. To that end, this flexibility and the clarity around our liquidity on a go forward basis allows us to more aggressively pursue opportunities to further unlock the value of Seadrift, which is an asset that is critical to GrafTech's long term growth plans. All of these actions demonstrate our absolute focus on controlling those things we can control. Speaker 200:03:55So let me share a little bit more on these topics starting first on the Commercials side. In the Q3, our sales volume increased 9% year over year and grew sequentially for the 3rd consecutive quarter. On a year to date basis, our sales volume is up 13% from the prior year. These are impressive results given the current soft demand environment. We've instilled a customer centric mindset across our organization and are executing a deliberate customer engagement strategy and we continue to see the positive results as evidenced by our Q3 performance. Speaker 200:04:29And we are confident that we will continue to regain our market share and increase our sales volume as we move ahead. Currently, we're engaged in discussions with many of our existing customers as well as new ones regarding their needs for next year. We're encouraged by the dialogue and expect another year of low double digit sales volume growth in 2025. In addition, we continue to enter into new strategic multiyear electrode sales agreements with certain customers. While a relatively small percentage of our overall order book, these multiyear agreements reflect the confidence our customers have in our products and services and the recognition of our unique position being vertically integrated into Needle Coke, and we value their long term partnership. Speaker 200:05:13We also continue to invest in our customer value proposition, including expanding our technical capabilities and product offerings. Of note, during the Q3, initial trials of our new 800 millimeter electrodes were conducted by a key customer in North America and as anticipated, those electrodes performed in accordance with our very own high standards. While currently a niche market, demand for 8 100 sized electrodes is expected to significantly outpace that of the overall electrode market in the years to come. And we're excited to offer high quality products to meet this need. Again, we're making steady progress in regaining lost market share that we've noted in the past and we'll continue to work tirelessly to do so. Speaker 200:05:57Ultimately, all of these efforts are about strengthening our customer relationships for the long term to achieve mutual success for years to come. On the operations front, our ongoing efforts to aggressively control costs continue to pay off. For the Q3, we achieved a 28% year over year decrease in our cash COGS per metric ton, exceeding our expectations for the quarter. As we continue to over deliver on our initial expectations for cost reductions, for the 2nd time in 2024, we are increasing our full year guidance for the improvement in our cash COGS measure. These cost control efforts combined with our focus on managing working capital and capital expenditures has led to solid cash flow performance. Speaker 200:06:44This includes $20,000,000 of free cash flow generation in the Q3. I'm extremely proud of our team's work in all of these areas and I thank them for the relentless efforts. With that being said, let me pivot to another important topic we'd like to discuss today. As I stated on our last earnings call, we are regularly in conversations with our financial advisors regarding potential proactive measures to enhance our capital structure. And as I indicated at the time, we view it prudent to have such ongoing dialogue regardless of where we stand in the cycle. Speaker 200:07:17This morning, I'm excited to announce a key development in this area. We've entered into a commitment letter with the majority of our existing bondholders and our lenders under our existing revolving credit facility. This commitment letter covers transaction that will provide GrafTech with both new capital at attractive rates and also an extension of the maturities of our existing debt and revolving credit facility. Roy will cover the details of the transactions during his comments, including further color on the benefits to our liquidity position and our debt maturity profile. But let me share a few thoughts on the importance of this announcement. Speaker 200:07:52We view this transaction as a critical step towards strengthening our financial foundation and achieving the company's objective of delivering long term growth and shareholder value. As I'll discuss later in our prepared remarks, GrafTech is well positioned to capitalize on the long term tailwinds that exist for our business and our industry. However, as you know, we are currently in the down part of the cycle. This transaction provides the additional liquidity and operational flexibility to manage through the near term industry wide challenges. This includes supporting our ability to responsibly invest in working capital in order to capitalize on the growth opportunities as the industry recovers and demand increases. Speaker 400:08:33Just as Speaker 500:08:33we look forward Speaker 200:08:36to the strategic flexibility to deliver on the company's long term potential, both to grow our existing electrode business and to pursue new growth opportunities. Lastly, it affords all of those at GrafTech the ability to refocus our energy on what we're passionate about, which is delivering on the needs for our customers and growing our business to the benefit of our stakeholders. To that end, let me provide a clear message directly to our customers, our employees, our investors and all of our stakeholders. We are absolutely in this business for the long term and have and will continue to take the steps necessary to remain there. We are excited about the path ahead and remain confident about the future of GrafTech. Speaker 200:09:19We appreciate the strong support of our lenders and I'd like to thank them for their engagement in this process. Ultimately, this highlights their confidence in GrafTech's return to more normalized levels of earnings and cash flow in the medium term and our ability to deliver on the company's potential for the long term. With that, let me now turn it over to Jeremy to provide more color on the current state of the industry and our commercial performance. Speaker 600:09:43Thank you, Tim, and good morning, everyone. As always, before I provide an industry update, I'll start with a few comments on safety, which is a core value at GrafTech. Our year to date recordable incident rate continues to show improvement over our performance in 2023. Nevertheless, we are not satisfied with this performance and must do better. Sending our employees home safely at the end of every day is the most important thing we can do and being relentlessly focused on this objective will remain a key priority for our teams as we end this year and move forward into next. Speaker 600:10:19Let me now turn to the next slide to discuss the commercial environment. As you know, we operate in a cyclical industry and currently find ourselves in a challenging part of the cycle. The global steel industry remains constrained by economic uncertainty and geopolitical conflict. On a global basis, steel production outside of China was approximately 202,000,000 tons in the Q3 of 2024, representing a 2% decline from the prior year. The global steel capacity utilization rate outside of China declined to 65% in the 3rd quarter, the lowest rate in 7 quarters. Speaker 600:11:00Looking at some of our key commercial regions. For North America, steel production was down 5% in the Q3 on a year over year basis, continuing the recent trend of modest declines in what has been an otherwise relatively stable steel region. Conversely, steel output in the EU increased 3% for the 2nd consecutive quarter, although it remains well below historical production and utilization rates for that region. The current dynamics within the industry wide demand for graphite electrodes. Specifically, industry wide demand for graphite electrodes has remained weak and the graphite electrode industry continues to suffer from low capacity utilization. Speaker 600:11:48Reflecting these changes, the competitive dynamics we have spoken to on the last several calls have persisted, including an ongoing increase in the level of electrode exports from certain countries, including India and China. This in turn continues to result in the weak pricing environment that we have spoken to previously. With that background, let's turn to the next slide for more details on our results. Our production volume in the Q3 of 2024 was 19,000 metric tons, which resulted in a capacity utilization rate of 46%. The decline in our production levels during the Q3 was consistent with our expectations given the planned maintenance shutdowns at our European facilities during the quarter. Speaker 600:12:36Our 3rd quarter sales volume was 26,000 metric tons, which was above our outlook for the quarter. Shipments in the Q3 of 2024 included approximately 23,000 metric tons of non LTA sales at a weighted average realized price of approximately $4,100 per metric ton and approximately 3,000 metric tons sold under our LTAs at a weighted average realized price of approximately $7,700 per metric ton. Expanding on our weighted average price for non LTA sales, this represented a 24% year over year decline and a sequential decline from the Q2 of approximately 5%. Net sales in the Q3 decreased 18% compared to the Q3 of 2023, driven by the lower pricing along with the ongoing shift in the mix of our business from LTA to non LTA volume. As we move through the Q4, we expect our sales volume for the quarter will be broadly in line with the sales volume for the Q3. Speaker 600:13:43As a result, we are well on our way to achieving our 2024 outlook for the full year sales volume growth. Looking ahead, we expect the global steel market and therefore industry wide demand for graphite electrodes will recover, albeit more slowly than initially anticipated. In addition, as the shift to electric arc furnace steelmaking continues, these factors will lead to an improved commercial environment for the graphite electrode industry. Tim will expand on these concepts in a few months. As it relates to 2025, with some measure of demand recovery, combined with our efforts to regain share driven by our customer engagement strategy and our compelling customer value proposition, we are confident in delivering another year of sales volume growth in 2025. Speaker 600:14:36Let me now turn it over to Rorke for the rest of our financial details. Speaker 300:14:40Thank you, Jeremy. For the Q3 of 2024, we had a net loss of $36,000,000 or $0.14 per share. Adjusted EBITDA was negative $6,000,000 for the Q3 compared to adjusted EBITDA of $1,000,000 in the Q3 of 2023. The decline reflected lower weighted average pricing and the continued shift in the mix of our business towards non LTA volumes. In addition, we recorded an $8,000,000 lower of cost or market inventory valuation adjustment in the Q3 of 2024. Speaker 300:15:14These factors were mostly offset by a 28% year over year reduction in cash costs on a per metric ton basis. Let me expand on this last point, which represents a continuation of our impressive cost reduction performance. As shown in the reconciliation provided in our earnings call materials posted on our website, our cash COGS per metric ton were just under $4,200 for the Q3 of 2024. This is lower than our expectations for the quarter. Along with the benefit of favorable freight costs and other factors, the lower costs reflect the continued strong performance of our teams in identifying and executing against cost reduction opportunities without compromising our ability to meet our customers' needs or our product quality. Speaker 300:16:05Reflecting the over delivery on our cost reduction activities, we have updated our full year COGS per metric ton guidance for 2024. We now anticipate approximately 20% year over year decline on a full year basis, which would result in cash COGS per metric ton of approximately $4,400 for 2024. This compares to our previous expectation of $4,600 to $4,800 per metric ton for 2024. In addition, we anticipate that our cash COGS per metric ton will decline further as we move into 2025. Turning to cash flow. Speaker 300:16:46For the Q3 of 2024, cash provided by operating activities was $24,000,000 adjusted free cash flow was $20,000,000 Overall, we are pleased with this level of cash flow performance in the quarter. While Q3 CapEx spending declined sequentially from the Q2, we will continue to invest in our business and expect to complete the year in line with our full year CapEx guidance of $35,000,000 to $40,000,000 As it relates to working capital, we had another favorable quarter with a decline in inventory levels reflecting the planned seasonal production shutdowns, which Jeremy spoke to, as well as ongoing execution of our working capital initiatives. We remain focused on reducing our overall inventory levels in 2024 as part of these initiatives and we now expect the net impact of working capital will be favorable to our overall to our full year cash flow performance versus our previous expectation of a neutral impact. We ended the Q3 with total liquidity of approximately $254,000,000 consisting of $141,000,000 of cash $112,000,000 available under our revolving credit facility. On the topic of liquidity, let me provide some details on the transactions for new capital that we announced this morning. Speaker 300:18:15As Tim indicated, the transactions described in the commitment on attractive terms and extend our existing debt maturities. More specifically, the ad hoc group of existing bondholders are providing new financing to GrafTech in the form of a $275,000,000 delayed draw term loan that will be senior to our existing debt. Of the $275,000,000 term loan, dollars 175,000,000 will be drawn at transaction closing, which is expected to occur in the Q4 of this year. The remaining $100,000,000 will be available to be drawn for a period of 19 months following the transaction closing. The new term loan will bear interest at SOFR plus 600 basis points on any portion that is drawn with any undrawn portion subject to a lower cost until drawn. Speaker 300:19:11The term loan will mature in December of 2029. Regarding our existing $950,000,000 of senior notes due in December of 2028, an exchange offer will be launched shortly whereby existing bonds can be exchanged at par and at existing interest rates for new bonds with a 1 year extension of the maturity to December of 2029. Based on the level of commitments to participate in the exchange offer which have been received to date from the bondholders, we anticipate nearly all of our existing bonds will be exchanged and subject to the maturity extension. Lastly, our $330,000,000 revolving credit facility scheduled to mature in May of 2027 will be replaced with a new $225,000,000 revolving credit facility that will mature in November of 2028. While the overall capacity of the revolver will be reduced in the new capital structure, more importantly, the amount that is available to GrafTech after giving effect to the springing financial covenant will not change. Speaker 300:20:21In other words, our recent financial performance currently limits our availability under the $330,000,000 revolver to approximately $115,000,000 less the currently outstanding $3,000,000 of letters of credit. With the new revolver in the same scenario, we will continue to have $115,000,000 of revolver availability less the letters of credit. With that background, let me turn to the next slide to further demonstrate the benefit that the announced financing agreements will provide to our liquidity position and our debt maturity profile. As I mentioned earlier, we ended the Q3 with total liquidity of approximately $254,000,000 Factoring in the new $275,000,000 delayed draw term loan when fully drawn, this would more than double our current liquidity, increasing it to approximately $529,000,000 Turning to our debt maturity profile, the new $275,000,000 delayed draw term loan matures in 2029. As it relates to the existing $950,000,000 notes, the exchange offering provides a 1 year extension versus the current maturity date. Speaker 300:21:43Therefore, assuming full participation in the upcoming exchange offer, we will have no outstanding debt maturities until December of 2029. Further, as I indicated previously, the revolver originally maturing in May of 2027 has been extended 18 months to November of 2028. Overall, we are proud to have reached this outcome with our partners and appreciate their confidence in our ability to guide the company through the current down cycle and to restore the company to profitable growth. Let me turn the call back to Tim for some final comments on our outlook. Speaker 200:22:23Thanks, Rory, and let me summarize. GrafTech continues to deliver on our outlook and its initiatives as we continue to focus on controlling the controllable. We're proud of our team's execution and supported by our announced financing transaction, we remain confident in our ability to manage through the near term environment. As we look ahead, our long term optimism about our industry remains intact. While we remain cautious on near term steel industry trends, we have consistently noted that cyclical downturns eventually come to an end. Speaker 200:22:54In addition, we continue to believe that our industry has many long term and sustainable tailwinds. Combined with our unique position and competitive advantages, we remain confident we are well positioned to capitalize. For these reasons, we believe the long term growth opportunities in front of us are very real. Let me provide some more color on these concepts. In October, the World Steel Association published their most recent short term outlook for global steel demand. Speaker 200:23:21On a positive note, World Steel is projecting 3% growth for steel demand outside of China in 2025. This includes projected growth in nearly all of our key regions, including the EU, the Americas, the Middle East and in Africa. And although the global steel market is rebounding more slowly than many initially expected, we find the projected growth to be encouraging. During this time, we have shown incredible cost and spending discipline, but we cannot cut our way to growth and improve financial performance. Ultimately, the improved steel demand as well as the impact of announced supply reductions, announced price increases and the like need to translate into a healthier pricing environment. Speaker 200:24:05A healthy steel industry needs a healthy graphite electrode industry. And the current pricing levels we are seeing in many of our regions are not sustainable and do not promote the long term health of our industry. We spoke about this on our last call and we are encouraged that we are now seeing this recognized by others. Pivoting to the longer term. We continue to expect decarbonization efforts to drive a transition in the approach to steel making with electric arc furnaces continuing to increase share of total steel production. Speaker 200:24:35Based on the latest production statistics published by the World Steel Association, the EAF method of steel making accounted for 50% of global steel production outside of China in 2023, an increase from 44% in 2015 with market share growth in nearly every region. This trend of EAF share growth is expected to continue. As we've noted previously, we're tracking approximately 200 announced projects from steel manufacturers regarding plans for new EAF facilities or expansions of existing facilities. Outside of China, these projects are expected to result in over 170,000,000 metric tons per year of new EAF steel production capacity coming online by the end of this decade, with much of this growth concentrated in our key commercial regions. This in turn is expected to drive incremental demand for graphite electrodes. Speaker 200:25:25In fact, that 170,000,000 metric tons of EAF steel capacity, even at conservative assumptions around utilization rates at 75%, could translate into about 200,000 metric tons of incremental demand for graphite electrodes on an annual basis. That would be 25% more than the total manufacturing capacity that currently exists outside of China. All in, this would drive graphite electrode demand increasing at a compound annual growth rate of 3% to 4% through the end of the decade. Importantly, about 80% of that growth would take place in regions where we already have a strong presence. Moving on to petroleum needle coke. Speaker 200:26:04The anticipated demand growth for petroleum needle coke, the key raw material we use to produce graphite electrodes will also present a tailwind for our business given our substantial vertical integration. We expect this demand for high quality needle coke to be driven by 2 key factors. 1st, the demand for graphite electrodes from the ongoing shift to EAF steelmaking I just spoke to and second and more importantly, the demand for synthetic graphite anode material for use in electric vehicle batteries where needle coke is a key precursor material. Growing demand for needle coke should result in elevated needle coke pricing. Given the high historical correlation between petroleum needle coke pricing and graphite electrode pricing, this trend should translate to higher market pricing for graphite electrodes. Speaker 200:26:48This again reinforces the key competitive advantage that our substantial vertical integration into needle coke affords us as it relates to our graphite electrode business. Both within and beyond graphite electrodes, we continue to focus on ways to maximize the value of our unique assets and capabilities. This includes pursuing partnership opportunities to expand the production capacity of Seadrift. An expansion would provide meaningful capacity to serve the anode material market, while maintaining adequate capacity to remain substantially vertically integrated for graphite electrodes. As it further relates to participating in the growing in the growth of the anode material market, we are also making investments within our R and D function, including pilot scale assets in our technical center to advance our technical capabilities. Speaker 200:27:37This remains a dynamic and exciting opportunity with our assets and expertise positioning us well to be a key player in this space. In closing, to manage through the challenging near term industry dynamics, we set out a plan and we're executing against it. We're confident in steps we're taking have improved that the position that GrafTech to benefit as the global steel market rebounds. Longer term, as decarbonization efforts drive a further shift to electric arc furnace steelmaking and higher graphite electrode demand, we are poised to capitalize on that anticipated growth. Our confidence is anchored in GrafTech's distinct set of assets, capabilities and competitive advantages that we've spoken to. Speaker 200:28:24Overall, we're proud of our recent accomplishments and remain confident in GrafTech generating great value for its stockholders. This concludes our prepared remarks. We'll now open the call for questions. Operator00:28:38Thank you. And ladies and gentlemen, we will now begin the question and answer session. And your first question comes from the line of Bill Peterson with JPMorgan. Please go ahead. Speaker 500:29:10Yes. Hi. Good morning. Thanks for taking the questions and nice job on the cost on efforts you've been doing. Just on the near term environment, competitive in pricing, spot looks like it's fallen another $200 per ton. Speaker 500:29:24The near term commentary remains weak, which is consistent over the last few quarters. But I guess how did the spot pricing decline compared to the latest needle coke pricing you're seeing? And I guess how should we think about the pricing expectations in your order book quarter to date or near term? Speaker 200:29:41Yes. Thanks, Bill. And I think you're absolutely right in the observation around the spot market, right? We've seen a fairly steady decline in pricing as we've gone through the balance of the year, winding up this quarter at about $41.50 on a weighted average basis across all the geographies. I would say that needle coke prices have remained relatively consistent over that time. Speaker 200:30:06We're still in the, call it, dollars 1,000 to $1300 range depending on grades and jurisdiction for needle coke. So, we've seen a little bit of a floor or at least a price support level on the needle coke side. But you're still seeing some slide on the electrode side. Some of that's timing related, right, as contracts are negotiated and delivered as we go through the quarter. But yes, still a tough pricing environment. Speaker 200:30:38But certainly, I think as we look forward, again, for all of the reasons that we've stated, whether that pricing turns immediately or if it takes a little bit of time, we do anticipate a rebound both in needle coke pricing as demand picks up for needle coke, which again then has a knock on effect and will drive up electrode pricing. I think as you look at the industry more broadly, and I commented that a healthy steel industry needs a healthy electrode industry. Pricing in many of the jurisdictions we're seeing right now, I would not describe as healthy or sustainable for any of the key players in this market. So, at some point in time, either companies will continue to take action, whether that's announced supply reductions, which we've talked about our announcement back in Q1, we talked about other announcements in Q2, or you'll see pricing actions, which again we've seen some pricing announcement here by competitors in the market more recently. So those actions will have to take place to balance out the market because otherwise you won't have a healthy market to underpin all of the demand growth for steel going forward. Speaker 500:31:53Okay. Thanks for that. And again, on the cost side, better than expected, which we would have thought with maybe the sales environment may not have seen as much fixed cost absorption. So I guess, how should we think about the potential for cost downs and maybe underlying assumptions around your growth expectations for next year? How should we think about that progressing over the next several quarters? Speaker 200:32:15Yes. So, let me start and then I'll turn it over to Rory to comment a little bit more on the cost side. But I mean, this is a really tremendous effort by our teams, right? This is the self help that we can do for our business and there's been a tremendous amount of energy on the cost side to work this down. We are benefiting from increasing volume, which is helping on a fixed cost basis, but the operations team more broadly has done a really good job of being laser focused on cost control and expect that to continue. Speaker 200:32:46So I'll turn it over to Rory and he can provide some more details. Speaker 300:32:50Yes. So thanks, Bill. Just a reminder on our cost breakdown. Essentially our production cost is about 25% fixed, the largest component of that fixed cost being labor costs. The remainder is probably evenly split between needle coke costs and other variable costs such as energy, freight costs and the like. Speaker 300:33:12We have made tremendous progress in not only controlling the variable costs through different procurement strategies, different process engineering improvements that we've made, But we've also kind of we've diversified our supplier base. So we brought down some of the price of some of our raw materials through qualification of additional vendors and the like. So we've created a little bit of a pricing battle between some of our vendors and it's really starting to show benefits. So that's for 2024. As you know in 2024, we also took out a lot of fixed costs with the curtailment of St. Speaker 300:33:54Mary's. We also took some overhead cost reduction initiatives in the Q1 of the year. So moving into 2025, we're going to see the wraparound effect of all the things I've just mentioned. Those things coupled with an outlook of increased volumes and fixed cost leverage is really what we're looking at as the key sources of bringing down continuing to bring down that cash cost per ton into the future. Speaker 500:34:25Yes, thanks, Annette. Rory, if I could sneak one more in. The battery comment, it sounds like you're looking to invest more in here. Just wondering here, how does the change in government, how does that change your view of, let's say, a government that likes to balance and have local production and local manufacturing versus maybe a potential likelihood that some of the domestic content kickers may be going away. I guess, do you see any change in your customers' behavior or wanting to work with you? Speaker 500:34:53Or is it actually consistent and looking to move ahead? Speaker 200:34:58Yes, I don't think well, I would say it's too early to and I'm not going to speculate on what outcomes of elections are otherwise going to drive or how that's going to change the landscape. But I think there still remains strong interest in the needle coke that Seadrift provides and what the work that me and the team have been doing from a development perspective, on the needle coke front and how that can be a suitable precursor for anode materials. So, we still feel very optimistic about our ability to leverage C Drift as an asset and again diversify our overall business and expand that operation and really again have material to put into the anode market as an end market, but then also continue to solidify our position of being vertically integrated because I think that's a huge asset for us as we think about our business longer term. Speaker 600:36:00Maybe I would just add something to what you're saying, Tim. Bill, we're only 3 years since automakers had to curtail production because of a lack of a domestic supply chain. And I think that as we see the vehicle fleet evolving to an electric vehicle over time, they're going to want to have that domestic supply chain established. And so regardless of which politician happens to be in office, I think it's just good business practice to have that domestic supply chain. Speaker 500:36:36Yes, those comments make sense. Thanks again. And again, nice job on the cost side. Speaker 200:36:41Thanks, Bill. Operator00:36:44And your next question comes from the line of Alex Hacking with Citi. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:36:51Yes, thanks. Good morning. Just to follow-up on the pricing question, I guess, how is the tenor of negotiations for first half of next year? I assume that we're in contracting season. And how has the 20% price increase announced by one of your competitors affected that dynamic? Speaker 400:37:10Thank you very much. Speaker 200:37:13Yes. Thanks, Alex, and appreciate the question. And you're absolutely right. We are in the middle of what we would consider our key negotiation season certainly for customers on an annualized basis in North America, but more broadly for the Q1 and first half deliveries for next year. Certainly, the 20% price increase, I'm supportive of. Speaker 200:37:33I think it's the right move, given all of my previous commentary about the sustainability of pricing and where we feel that electrode pricing needs to go to have a healthy industry. Because right now, I don't think that we think that is healthy across the board. The ultimate level of realization of that 20% is going to depend on a couple of things. 1, the regions that you're talking about, but then 2, it's what's your starting point is. And I don't think everybody is starting from the exact same level. Speaker 200:38:02So, we think it helps, but ultimately, we're not just taking pricing, multiplying it by 20% and moving forward. So, we'll be strategic about it as we approach our customers. But overall, encouraged about the dialogue and the discussions we're having both in the Americas, in Europe and more broadly as well. Probably don't want to say much more than that from an overall contracting perspective as those are active and ongoing dialogues, but certainly can give a broader update and a more fulsome update on our Q4 call in February. Speaker 400:38:39Yes. Thanks for the color. I do appreciate that. It's ongoing. And I guess follow-up question on the HEG investment. Speaker 400:38:48Have you had any dialogue with them? Or this just a completely hands off investment? Thanks. Speaker 200:38:55Yes. No, thanks for that. Appreciate it. And maybe just for a bit of background, so HEG began acquiring a position earlier in this year. They disclosed that position in their annual report in March. Speaker 200:39:11They did inform us that before that public disclosure came out that they had begun inquiring shares in the company. And so, I think they sit today at just over 8% and that's based on their 13 gs filing. So again, an indication of a passive ownership perspective and consistent with their public commentary. But I mean, I think more importantly, it's a good underwriting of our business within one of your competitors, not only comments on the strength of your asset and the unique position of the vertical integration that we have, but they're putting the dollars behind it as well. So, we appreciate that endorsement and yes, so we'll see how that plays out going forward. Speaker 400:39:57Okay. Thanks, Tim and team. Best of luck. Speaker 200:40:00Yes. Thank you. Operator00:40:03Your next question comes from the line of Arun Viswanathan with RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead. Speaker 700:40:12Great. Thanks for taking my question. I wanted to ask a little bit about production and sales. So it looks like in Q3, you really ratcheted back your production volumes down to that 19.4 1,000 metric tons, but you were still able to sell 26,400 tons in the quarter. So it looks like you sold through some inventory. Speaker 700:40:36Would you say that out of some of the and you ratcheted back the rates in some of your European facilities, is that strategy complete? Would you say that you've put your inventories in good positions? How are you expecting production to kind of trend as you move forward into Q4 and into Q1? Speaker 600:40:59Yes. We did exactly what we had planned to do. As we set our annual plan at the beginning of the year, we knew that we were going to take some downtime in Europe for a kind of a combination of factors. 1, to take the time to properly maintain our equipment. Secondly, to manage our costs and thirdly, to manage our inventory down to the targeted level. Speaker 600:41:24So I think the team executed exactly what I was hoping they would do and we're quite happy with where we're at as we go forward. We should expect that production and inventory probably production and sales will largely march in line from here through the rest of the year. And then as we get into next year, as we build out that operating plan, we'll do what it takes to achieve the kind Speaker 200:41:52of the greatest return on assets. Yes, Arun, I'll just add to Jeremy's comments. Think about working, it happened to be fairly neutral in the Q4, a fair amount of alignment again between production and sales. Going back to kind of the increased liquidity, that gives us the ability and the flexibility to rebuild some of the inventory as we go through 2025 in line with our expectations for growth, not only in 2025, but certainly beyond that as well. So, in the near term, fairly balanced, there isn't much more to take out on the inventory front, other than continuing to drive down costs and lower our unit costs sitting on the balance sheet. Speaker 700:42:36Great. And then just further on your expectations, the global steel utilization rate was the lowest in Q3 according to your Slide 6 versus some other recent periods. So how do you see that trending, I guess? And maybe if it's helpful, you can give us some commentary by end market. I know auto, we are expecting maybe flat to slightly down auto global production next year. Speaker 700:43:09What's your expectations on how volumes and production could evolve maybe into 2025? Maybe you could help us out with that as well? Speaker 200:43:20Yes. So maybe I'll start with and we do expect an increase in our sales volume heading into next year. We're guiding to low double digit growth off of what we otherwise expect for this year. So we do think that ultimately we'll see greater demand for our products. Some of that is regaining market share, some of that's increased demand. Speaker 200:43:42If we talk about regions in particular, Europe is still very much a hand to mouth market, where buying is being done on very limited basis and inventory levels are relatively low. I think the U. S, maybe there was a bit of a slowdown in steel production in the Q3. And I think some of that is a combination of just election uncertainty and just taking a pause and a breather, but we don't really see a significant change in the landscape in the U. S. Speaker 200:44:11As we look out, right, still expecting some small low single digit growth as we head into next year from an overall demand perspective in the U. S. I don't think that the outlook on particular industries has materially changed. Probably the one thing that is still waiting or seeing how it manifests itself is all the stimulus in China, what that does to their property sector, their domestic steel production and how that otherwise impacts pricing and utilizations going forward. But overall, I would say that nothing has changed from our outlook significantly and we do expect to start to see a little bit of recovery as we head into next year from an underlying demand perspective. Speaker 700:45:03Okay. And just to clarify, did you say that you do expect low double digit growth for next year? Is that volumes or is that EBITDA or how should we think about that now? Speaker 200:45:15Our sales yes, our sales volume, we expect low double digit growth next year in sales volume. Speaker 700:45:22Okay. And part of that is maybe some of this ratcheting back in different periods this year or what's driving that year on year increase? Speaker 200:45:36So, I mean, I think it's a couple of things. 1, we do expect the market to start to begin to recover. That will be a portion of it. Secondly, I mentioned the development of the 800 millimeter electrode. This is a market that we have been a participant in the past. Speaker 200:45:52We have a product that works as we expected. So we anticipate volume in the 800 millimeter market next year as well as our efforts on the commercial front to reengage on a more holistic level with our customers and regain the market share we lost when Monterrey was shut down. And we're seeing that. We continue to see quarter over quarter increases in our sales volume, while others are announcing decreases in volume year over year. So we're pleased with the effort. Speaker 200:46:25It's just it is a slow methodical march in regaining that volume. But we think best that we can tell, we anticipate that it will be low double digits as we head into next year. Speaker 700:46:40Okay, that's helpful. And then from a profitability standpoint then, so I guess the hope is that you will turn the corner back on to profitability. Do you expect that, I guess, as soon as Q4? And how sustainable is that? Is that mainly driven by your own actions on the cost side? Speaker 700:47:06Or would it be dependent on volumes continuing to improve? And then on that point, is there any cost per ton metrics we should keep in mind when thinking about our initial 25 framework? Speaker 200:47:25Yes. So, a lot there. I don't think we're sitting here just hoping things get better. We are certainly and definitively taking action to ensure that, A, we are as cost competitive as we can be as we go forward. We've guided to now 20% down on the cost side, so roughly $4,400 a metric ton on a full year basis. Speaker 200:47:52We expect that to be better as we head out into 2025 as Rory alluded to. And I think longer term, we expect to continue to be able to drive costs out of the business and certainly as volumes will continue to increase and we get to more normalized capacity, we'll drive down our fixed cost leverage even further. So we fully anticipate being cost competitive as we move forward. In terms of profitability, we've talked about pricing already. Pricing in the Q3 was at 41.50. Speaker 200:48:24Dollars The dynamics to change pricing, you're starting to see some of the seeds being sown, if you will, in terms of competitors announcing price increases, capacity coming offline, right? There needs to be more action that takes place before you see meaningful and sustainable price increases. So, I think as we look out over the full year, if you take kind of current pricing levels and current cost levels to what we've guided to, you're right roughly around breakeven on a profit margin line in the 4th quarter. Speaker 700:48:58Sorry, that's great. I really appreciate all those comments. If I could just ask one more, just on the footprint itself, if your utilization rates maybe are and you are taking this downturn downtime in Europe, are you guys comfortable with all of the assets within the portfolio right now? Are there any actions you can take to either change that footprint or do you need to, given that you do have quite a bit of breathing room now on the liquidity front, maybe not, but just maybe I can just wrap up with some of your comments on that front. Thanks. Speaker 200:49:37Yes. So let me step back and talk to when we took action in Q1 of this year and idled St. Mary's and took some other production capacity offline and kind of reset our nameplate to 178,000 tons. We did that with a view of what we believe the market is going to need and require from us on a go forward basis. So from that standpoint, we feel that the assets we have, the collection of the operating and supply chains we've established between the 3 facilities that are our primary production facilities is the right mix for us going forward. Speaker 200:50:14Those three facilities are all quality facilities. Monterey, ever since the shutdown, has been operating flawlessly. And now, as we sit here today, we've kind of got the whole journey of Monterey behind us and have closed out the conditional restart permit that was issued back in November of 2022. So, we're very pleased on that. And the European facilities continue to run well. Speaker 200:50:44And again, those are world class facilities. So, the footprint is right for today. Where I think that changes is if outlook in the long term somehow changes or it doesn't manifest itself in the same way, then we would have to look at our production network and say, do we really need 178,000 tons of capacity? However, shutting down a plant is not a short term decision or a short term measure, right, because of the fixed cost and the jurisdictions that they operate in. You don't save much money year 1. Speaker 200:51:15So you have to have a multi year view that you don't need that supply before you take it off. All that being said, we like everybody else are here to make money and create returns for our shareholders. So if that doesn't change and we're not able to do it with the existing footprint, we will take the steps that we need to return the company to profitability. Operator00:51:40And your next question comes from the line of Kirk Lutke with Imperial Capital. Please go ahead. Speaker 800:51:47Hello, Tim, Jeremy, Rory, Mike. Thanks for the call. Appreciate it. Just to follow-up on the pricing topic, it seems like there are signs that pricing is stabilizing. I know you're early in your negotiations for next year, but are there any conversations or have are there more conversations than last year regarding longer term agreements? Speaker 200:52:18Yes. I'll let Jeremy weigh in as well. I don't know if there are more conversations about long term agreements. We use those as a means of engaging with customers that want a strategic relationship, right? Not necessarily customers that are trying to lock in what they believe is a low point in the pricing. Speaker 200:52:41Those contracts have to work for both sides of the party. So again, as I commented, they're going to be a relatively small piece of the order book. We're very happy to have them and we're very pleased with the engagement and the partnership that we forge with those customers that are engaging them. They're not for everybody. Not everybody buys on the longer term horizon. Speaker 200:53:01So I don't know if there's more conversations necessarily about longer term agreements today than there was a year ago. Probably, yes, just given the fact that last year we were in the 1 year removed from the Monterey shutdown and we were just again trying to reinforce our position in the industry and that GrafTech is going to be around next year and the year after and for the long run. So, but yes, I guess maybe a little bit of color there on how we're thinking about these agreements. Speaker 800:53:34That's interesting. I appreciate it. Thank you. And then a follow-up on the competitor that raised prices. Is that focused on any particular region? Speaker 800:53:46Can you comment on the timing? And how that would come about? Would you typically have some sense as to how customers will react to that before you announce something like that? Speaker 200:54:02Yes. I don't know if I can comment on what level of comfort or confidence they had in the ability to get a 20% increase to stick and the timing of that announcement. Certainly, again, it's an appropriate step as we look out and try improve the health of the industry more broadly. But I really can't comment much beyond that. Speaker 800:54:29Okay. And then lastly, congratulations on the new money. And I think you touched on this, but I just want to make sure, are there any financial covenants in the delayed draw term loan that would prevent you from accessing that facility? Speaker 200:54:45Yes. So Kirk, thanks for that and appreciate the question. Maybe just a quick comment. I mean, we view this as really an important transaction for us to take the liquidity issue off the front and center question for not only investors, but our customers and really allow us to operate our business, focus on things that we can control like cutting costs, engaging with customers. So this is a really big transaction for us and we're pleased to have the support of our lenders and RCF lenders to do so. Speaker 200:55:23But with respect to the covenants, I'll let Rory comment on those. Speaker 300:55:28As far as accessibility of the new money, as we said, it's accessible for 19 months from closing. So, the delayed draw component of it is accessible for 19 months. The covenants are, I'd consider them customary. There are certain restrictions on taking on additional debt and the like, but there's no surprise covenants that would prevent us from accessing that second draw or that additional draw after the initial funding to answer your question directly. Speaker 800:56:01Awesome. I appreciate it. Thank you. Speaker 200:56:04Thank you. Operator00:56:08Your next question comes from the line of Matt Bittergiuoso with Jefferies. Please go ahead. Speaker 900:56:16Yes, good morning. Thanks for taking my call and congrats on the transaction. I guess just to follow-up on that last comment on restrictions around additional first lien debt. I think that would be the key for the existing bonds that are now going to be 2nd lien bonds. How much additional debt can you layer in at that new 1st lien layer? Speaker 900:56:37Is that something you can provide us today? Speaker 300:56:43I don't think I can provide that to you off the top of my head. I'm happy to follow-up. Speaker 900:56:48Okay. But there is a cap on additional 1st lien debt that comes from? Speaker 300:56:52Yes, there is. And again, the first priority debt is now the new money of $2.75 and the revolving credit facility of $2.25 So we have those 2 priority instruments, which again, we view the revolver as standby liquidity, if anything, the $2.75 is the liquidity that we've obtained in this new money transaction. Speaker 900:57:19Yes. Okay. And then my second question or comment would be, obviously great to have the support of your lenders. And I think this is a great transaction to extend runway and give you time to hopefully see better days in the electrode market. I guess the one thing that some folks were potentially looking for was your ability to capture some discount. Speaker 900:57:43The existing bonds had obviously traded at some pretty low dollar prices. Was that a consideration at any point? And I guess the fact that you didn't push for discount capture, does that suggest that you guys are ultimately comfortable with this debt load? Like in your mind as earnings recover, is this the appropriate debt load for this company on say like a mid cycle earnings? Speaker 200:58:11Yes. Thanks for that Matt. And as you know, I mean there's always levers that are push and pulls in these sort of transactions and negotiations and it's a balance of what's most important in terms of whether it's the cost of the debt, whether it's the maturity, whether it's discount capture. And so I think without getting into specifics, we weighed kind of all of those options and said this was ultimately the best deal that gave us very cost competitive capital for a company like ours. It gave us the maturity extension we wanted and it also gave us the strategic flexibility to continue to pursue kind of the growth and expansion opportunities that are important to us. Speaker 200:58:54So, we're very pleased with the deal and the construct that we reached in there. With respect to the overall leverage perspective, right, we've talked about this in the past and I don't think my view on this has changed. We ultimately will need to bring our leverage down, and we'll do that over time. But this was an important step again to ensure that the liquidity question is off the table, the pressures that are associated with the liquidity questions are off the table and allow us to focus on running the business and move forward. So over time, debt will come down. Speaker 200:59:26We will improve the overall leverage that will happen twofold. 1, by reducing debt, but also increasing overall EBITDA levels as we go forward. Speaker 900:59:38Great. Again, congrats on the transaction. Thanks, guys. Speaker 200:59:40Thanks. Appreciate it. Operator00:59:43And your last question comes from the line of Abe Landa with Bank of America. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:59:50Good morning. Also congratulations on the Group Free transaction. I noticed within your 8 ks, you provided some EBITDA unlevered free cash flow guidance. I'm wondering if you can maybe provide some of the underlying price volume and cash COGS per ton assumptions? Speaker 201:00:09Yes. Thanks Abe and appreciate that. So certainly and customary with transactions like this, we did provide forward looking outlook to support the underwriting process of both our existing bond holders as well as the revolving credit facility lenders. I will say and maybe just say this upfront, it doesn't really change our perspective on how we're going to provide guidance and kind of more near term guidance and outlooks will remain customary to what we've historically done in terms of some direction and some short term indications of where we think the business is heading. But I think if you look more broadly, that 5 year outlook is really underpinned. Speaker 201:00:53In the short term on, our views around the market as it exists today. Some of the data points that we've talked to around the short term outlook from World Steel, our engagement with customers, our views on cost in the short run. As we look out further, the longer term outlook is really underpinned by the growth of the EAF industry, the growth in the demand for needle coke, and all of our kind of benefits that we get associated with that as well, both from the electrode business and where we want to head on the EV business. I will add that if you look at our existing footprint of operating assets in the 187,000 tons of capacity, that is the base assumption in that outlook. It's not assuming a broad expansion of any sort of assets as we look out there. Speaker 201:01:43So that's really a view on the base business. And longer term and we've talked a lot about this in the past, we think there's strong support for both needle coke pricing as a key raw material, but then more importantly electrode pricing to return to historical averages and that will be a combination of industry growth as well as demand on the needle coke side. So those longer term averages kind of underwrite our expectations into the future, as well as our views around costs that we've talked about. So costs in the neighborhood of 4,400 for this year, expect that to come down in 25 and we'll continue to drive down costs and get the benefit of fixed cost leverage as we go forward. So beyond that, I don't want to get into specifics on year over year type of movements or changes, but hopefully that gives you a little bit of color and views around kind of the thinking of that those outlook items. Speaker 101:02:44Yes, that does provide a nice framework. Maybe one more on the debt transaction. It seems like there's some additional subsidiary guarantors of foreign subs. Can you maybe better describe what's new there? Speaker 301:03:01Yes. So we've included in the collateral package the majority of the assets in our foreign locations as part of the collateral package. There are some that are excluded. We continue to have some non operating legal entities in foreign jurisdictions that aren't included in the collateral package, but Speaker 401:03:19we've Speaker 301:03:20included it's a pretty significant increase in the assets subject to the collateral package. I think what we can say safely that all of the operating assets are included at this time. Speaker 101:03:39And lastly, just given the elections, I know Trump has proposed a number of tariffs. Can you maybe just talk about the potential impact of future tariffs, maybe not only in North America, but I know other countries globally, but also announced potential tariffs on steel coming from China, and how that would impact the industry in general? Thank you. Speaker 201:04:00Yes. Again, I'm not sure I want to speculate on how an administration plays out. I mean, yes, the U. S. Is a very important market to us and yes, we're headquartered in the U. Speaker 201:04:10S. But we have operations and customers globally and it's just one of many geopolitical forces that impact our business. I would say the administration, the last go around was very pro steel, pro domestic steel and certainly that helps our U. S. Customers and continues to support what is an otherwise healthy industry. Speaker 201:04:31And I think you're seeing the world more broadly take a bit of a position more quickly than maybe they did back in 2015, 2016, 2017 on China and the exports, right? And I don't think the world is going to let a repeat happen where that flood of low priced exports erodes and otherwise decimates domestic steel market. So given the fact that our 2 main regions are the Americas and Europe, we'll continue to benefit from the trade protections that are in place on the electrode side. We expect those regions to continue to have tariffs in place on the steel side, which will support those domestic markets. But that leaves other areas of the world kind of exposed to Chinese exports and those continue to be challenged markets broadly for both steel and the electrode business more broadly. Speaker 201:05:29So that's where I think we go back to China needing some reform on their part, whether that comes in the form of rationalizing their domestic supply both on the steel and the electrode side or more importantly is as they continue to establish their scrap supply chains and collection vehicles that EAF industry not only grows to the stated 15% that they're targeting, which again is an extra 50,000,000 tons of annual steel production, but that it runs at a utilization rate similar to where their blast furnaces run. So you get back to north of 70%, 75% blended kind of rate on utilization, that would go a long way to otherwise supporting the industry more broadly. Operator01:06:19Thank you. And this concludes our question Thank you. And this concludes our question and answer session. I will now hand the call back over to Mr. Flanagan for closing comments. Speaker 201:06:29Thanks, Luty. I appreciate everyone's time today and your ongoing support of GrafTech. 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There are 10 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to the Graptech Third Quarter 20 24 Earnings Conference Call and Webcast. This call is being recorded on Tuesday, November 12, 2024. I would now like to turn the conference over to Mike Dillon, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:34Thank you. Good morning and welcome to GrafTech International's Q3 2024 earnings call. All with me today are Tim Flanagan, Chief Executive Officer Jeremy Halford, Chief Operating Officer and Rory O'Donnell, Chief Financial Officer. Tim will begin with opening comments. Jeremy will then discuss safety, the commercial environment, sales and operational matters. Speaker 100:00:57Rory will review our quarterly results and other financial details, and Tim will close with comments on our outlook. We will then open the call to questions. Turning to our next slide. As a reminder, some of the matters discussed on this call may include forward looking statements regarding, among other things, performance, trends and strategies. These statements are based on current expectations and are subject to risks and uncertainties. Speaker 100:01:22Factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those indicated by forward looking statements are shown here. We will also discuss certain non GAAP financial measures and these slides include relevant non GAAP reconciliations. You can find these slides in the Investor Relations section of our website at www.graftech.com. A replay of the call will also be available on our website. I'll now turn the call over to Tim. Speaker 200:01:48Good morning and thank you for joining GrafTech's Q3 earnings call. During the call this morning, we'll discuss the results for the quarter, our current outlook for the industry and our business, and importantly, provide an overview of the financing transactions we announced this morning. Before getting into these topics, I'd like to take a moment to introduce our recently appointed CFO, Rory O'Donnell. With over 2 decades of experience in senior financial positions, including more than a decade serving in leadership roles at companies within the metals and mining space, we are fortunate to have Rory as part of our team and I look forward to working alongside him. Let me turn the call over to Rory to make a few comments. Speaker 300:02:25Thank you, Tim and good morning everyone. It's a pleasure to join you this morning to report our Q3 results. Since I joined in early September, I've spent much of my time getting to know GrafTech team, visiting many of our world class assets and diving deep into the strategic financing transaction that we're pleased to discuss with you today. For those of you that I've yet to meet, I look forward to connecting and personally thanking you for your interest in GrafTech. I trust we share the same enthusiasm for the future as we take steps to stabilize our position in the market, regain share and drive value for all of our stakeholders. Speaker 300:03:01Also, thank you to the Board and management team for welcoming me and for your guidance and support. With that, I'll turn it back to Tim to begin our presentation. Speaker 200:03:11In the Q3, we grew volume, significantly reduced our operating margin and generated positive free cash flow. In addition, we're capitalizing on an opportunity to improve our liquidity position via a new financing transaction. Importantly, the announced transaction has been structured in a manner to preserve our strategic flexibility to pursue new growth opportunities. To that end, this flexibility and the clarity around our liquidity on a go forward basis allows us to more aggressively pursue opportunities to further unlock the value of Seadrift, which is an asset that is critical to GrafTech's long term growth plans. All of these actions demonstrate our absolute focus on controlling those things we can control. Speaker 200:03:55So let me share a little bit more on these topics starting first on the Commercials side. In the Q3, our sales volume increased 9% year over year and grew sequentially for the 3rd consecutive quarter. On a year to date basis, our sales volume is up 13% from the prior year. These are impressive results given the current soft demand environment. We've instilled a customer centric mindset across our organization and are executing a deliberate customer engagement strategy and we continue to see the positive results as evidenced by our Q3 performance. Speaker 200:04:29And we are confident that we will continue to regain our market share and increase our sales volume as we move ahead. Currently, we're engaged in discussions with many of our existing customers as well as new ones regarding their needs for next year. We're encouraged by the dialogue and expect another year of low double digit sales volume growth in 2025. In addition, we continue to enter into new strategic multiyear electrode sales agreements with certain customers. While a relatively small percentage of our overall order book, these multiyear agreements reflect the confidence our customers have in our products and services and the recognition of our unique position being vertically integrated into Needle Coke, and we value their long term partnership. Speaker 200:05:13We also continue to invest in our customer value proposition, including expanding our technical capabilities and product offerings. Of note, during the Q3, initial trials of our new 800 millimeter electrodes were conducted by a key customer in North America and as anticipated, those electrodes performed in accordance with our very own high standards. While currently a niche market, demand for 8 100 sized electrodes is expected to significantly outpace that of the overall electrode market in the years to come. And we're excited to offer high quality products to meet this need. Again, we're making steady progress in regaining lost market share that we've noted in the past and we'll continue to work tirelessly to do so. Speaker 200:05:57Ultimately, all of these efforts are about strengthening our customer relationships for the long term to achieve mutual success for years to come. On the operations front, our ongoing efforts to aggressively control costs continue to pay off. For the Q3, we achieved a 28% year over year decrease in our cash COGS per metric ton, exceeding our expectations for the quarter. As we continue to over deliver on our initial expectations for cost reductions, for the 2nd time in 2024, we are increasing our full year guidance for the improvement in our cash COGS measure. These cost control efforts combined with our focus on managing working capital and capital expenditures has led to solid cash flow performance. Speaker 200:06:44This includes $20,000,000 of free cash flow generation in the Q3. I'm extremely proud of our team's work in all of these areas and I thank them for the relentless efforts. With that being said, let me pivot to another important topic we'd like to discuss today. As I stated on our last earnings call, we are regularly in conversations with our financial advisors regarding potential proactive measures to enhance our capital structure. And as I indicated at the time, we view it prudent to have such ongoing dialogue regardless of where we stand in the cycle. Speaker 200:07:17This morning, I'm excited to announce a key development in this area. We've entered into a commitment letter with the majority of our existing bondholders and our lenders under our existing revolving credit facility. This commitment letter covers transaction that will provide GrafTech with both new capital at attractive rates and also an extension of the maturities of our existing debt and revolving credit facility. Roy will cover the details of the transactions during his comments, including further color on the benefits to our liquidity position and our debt maturity profile. But let me share a few thoughts on the importance of this announcement. Speaker 200:07:52We view this transaction as a critical step towards strengthening our financial foundation and achieving the company's objective of delivering long term growth and shareholder value. As I'll discuss later in our prepared remarks, GrafTech is well positioned to capitalize on the long term tailwinds that exist for our business and our industry. However, as you know, we are currently in the down part of the cycle. This transaction provides the additional liquidity and operational flexibility to manage through the near term industry wide challenges. This includes supporting our ability to responsibly invest in working capital in order to capitalize on the growth opportunities as the industry recovers and demand increases. Speaker 400:08:33Just as Speaker 500:08:33we look forward Speaker 200:08:36to the strategic flexibility to deliver on the company's long term potential, both to grow our existing electrode business and to pursue new growth opportunities. Lastly, it affords all of those at GrafTech the ability to refocus our energy on what we're passionate about, which is delivering on the needs for our customers and growing our business to the benefit of our stakeholders. To that end, let me provide a clear message directly to our customers, our employees, our investors and all of our stakeholders. We are absolutely in this business for the long term and have and will continue to take the steps necessary to remain there. We are excited about the path ahead and remain confident about the future of GrafTech. Speaker 200:09:19We appreciate the strong support of our lenders and I'd like to thank them for their engagement in this process. Ultimately, this highlights their confidence in GrafTech's return to more normalized levels of earnings and cash flow in the medium term and our ability to deliver on the company's potential for the long term. With that, let me now turn it over to Jeremy to provide more color on the current state of the industry and our commercial performance. Speaker 600:09:43Thank you, Tim, and good morning, everyone. As always, before I provide an industry update, I'll start with a few comments on safety, which is a core value at GrafTech. Our year to date recordable incident rate continues to show improvement over our performance in 2023. Nevertheless, we are not satisfied with this performance and must do better. Sending our employees home safely at the end of every day is the most important thing we can do and being relentlessly focused on this objective will remain a key priority for our teams as we end this year and move forward into next. Speaker 600:10:19Let me now turn to the next slide to discuss the commercial environment. As you know, we operate in a cyclical industry and currently find ourselves in a challenging part of the cycle. The global steel industry remains constrained by economic uncertainty and geopolitical conflict. On a global basis, steel production outside of China was approximately 202,000,000 tons in the Q3 of 2024, representing a 2% decline from the prior year. The global steel capacity utilization rate outside of China declined to 65% in the 3rd quarter, the lowest rate in 7 quarters. Speaker 600:11:00Looking at some of our key commercial regions. For North America, steel production was down 5% in the Q3 on a year over year basis, continuing the recent trend of modest declines in what has been an otherwise relatively stable steel region. Conversely, steel output in the EU increased 3% for the 2nd consecutive quarter, although it remains well below historical production and utilization rates for that region. The current dynamics within the industry wide demand for graphite electrodes. Specifically, industry wide demand for graphite electrodes has remained weak and the graphite electrode industry continues to suffer from low capacity utilization. Speaker 600:11:48Reflecting these changes, the competitive dynamics we have spoken to on the last several calls have persisted, including an ongoing increase in the level of electrode exports from certain countries, including India and China. This in turn continues to result in the weak pricing environment that we have spoken to previously. With that background, let's turn to the next slide for more details on our results. Our production volume in the Q3 of 2024 was 19,000 metric tons, which resulted in a capacity utilization rate of 46%. The decline in our production levels during the Q3 was consistent with our expectations given the planned maintenance shutdowns at our European facilities during the quarter. Speaker 600:12:36Our 3rd quarter sales volume was 26,000 metric tons, which was above our outlook for the quarter. Shipments in the Q3 of 2024 included approximately 23,000 metric tons of non LTA sales at a weighted average realized price of approximately $4,100 per metric ton and approximately 3,000 metric tons sold under our LTAs at a weighted average realized price of approximately $7,700 per metric ton. Expanding on our weighted average price for non LTA sales, this represented a 24% year over year decline and a sequential decline from the Q2 of approximately 5%. Net sales in the Q3 decreased 18% compared to the Q3 of 2023, driven by the lower pricing along with the ongoing shift in the mix of our business from LTA to non LTA volume. As we move through the Q4, we expect our sales volume for the quarter will be broadly in line with the sales volume for the Q3. Speaker 600:13:43As a result, we are well on our way to achieving our 2024 outlook for the full year sales volume growth. Looking ahead, we expect the global steel market and therefore industry wide demand for graphite electrodes will recover, albeit more slowly than initially anticipated. In addition, as the shift to electric arc furnace steelmaking continues, these factors will lead to an improved commercial environment for the graphite electrode industry. Tim will expand on these concepts in a few months. As it relates to 2025, with some measure of demand recovery, combined with our efforts to regain share driven by our customer engagement strategy and our compelling customer value proposition, we are confident in delivering another year of sales volume growth in 2025. Speaker 600:14:36Let me now turn it over to Rorke for the rest of our financial details. Speaker 300:14:40Thank you, Jeremy. For the Q3 of 2024, we had a net loss of $36,000,000 or $0.14 per share. Adjusted EBITDA was negative $6,000,000 for the Q3 compared to adjusted EBITDA of $1,000,000 in the Q3 of 2023. The decline reflected lower weighted average pricing and the continued shift in the mix of our business towards non LTA volumes. In addition, we recorded an $8,000,000 lower of cost or market inventory valuation adjustment in the Q3 of 2024. Speaker 300:15:14These factors were mostly offset by a 28% year over year reduction in cash costs on a per metric ton basis. Let me expand on this last point, which represents a continuation of our impressive cost reduction performance. As shown in the reconciliation provided in our earnings call materials posted on our website, our cash COGS per metric ton were just under $4,200 for the Q3 of 2024. This is lower than our expectations for the quarter. Along with the benefit of favorable freight costs and other factors, the lower costs reflect the continued strong performance of our teams in identifying and executing against cost reduction opportunities without compromising our ability to meet our customers' needs or our product quality. Speaker 300:16:05Reflecting the over delivery on our cost reduction activities, we have updated our full year COGS per metric ton guidance for 2024. We now anticipate approximately 20% year over year decline on a full year basis, which would result in cash COGS per metric ton of approximately $4,400 for 2024. This compares to our previous expectation of $4,600 to $4,800 per metric ton for 2024. In addition, we anticipate that our cash COGS per metric ton will decline further as we move into 2025. Turning to cash flow. Speaker 300:16:46For the Q3 of 2024, cash provided by operating activities was $24,000,000 adjusted free cash flow was $20,000,000 Overall, we are pleased with this level of cash flow performance in the quarter. While Q3 CapEx spending declined sequentially from the Q2, we will continue to invest in our business and expect to complete the year in line with our full year CapEx guidance of $35,000,000 to $40,000,000 As it relates to working capital, we had another favorable quarter with a decline in inventory levels reflecting the planned seasonal production shutdowns, which Jeremy spoke to, as well as ongoing execution of our working capital initiatives. We remain focused on reducing our overall inventory levels in 2024 as part of these initiatives and we now expect the net impact of working capital will be favorable to our overall to our full year cash flow performance versus our previous expectation of a neutral impact. We ended the Q3 with total liquidity of approximately $254,000,000 consisting of $141,000,000 of cash $112,000,000 available under our revolving credit facility. On the topic of liquidity, let me provide some details on the transactions for new capital that we announced this morning. Speaker 300:18:15As Tim indicated, the transactions described in the commitment on attractive terms and extend our existing debt maturities. More specifically, the ad hoc group of existing bondholders are providing new financing to GrafTech in the form of a $275,000,000 delayed draw term loan that will be senior to our existing debt. Of the $275,000,000 term loan, dollars 175,000,000 will be drawn at transaction closing, which is expected to occur in the Q4 of this year. The remaining $100,000,000 will be available to be drawn for a period of 19 months following the transaction closing. The new term loan will bear interest at SOFR plus 600 basis points on any portion that is drawn with any undrawn portion subject to a lower cost until drawn. Speaker 300:19:11The term loan will mature in December of 2029. Regarding our existing $950,000,000 of senior notes due in December of 2028, an exchange offer will be launched shortly whereby existing bonds can be exchanged at par and at existing interest rates for new bonds with a 1 year extension of the maturity to December of 2029. Based on the level of commitments to participate in the exchange offer which have been received to date from the bondholders, we anticipate nearly all of our existing bonds will be exchanged and subject to the maturity extension. Lastly, our $330,000,000 revolving credit facility scheduled to mature in May of 2027 will be replaced with a new $225,000,000 revolving credit facility that will mature in November of 2028. While the overall capacity of the revolver will be reduced in the new capital structure, more importantly, the amount that is available to GrafTech after giving effect to the springing financial covenant will not change. Speaker 300:20:21In other words, our recent financial performance currently limits our availability under the $330,000,000 revolver to approximately $115,000,000 less the currently outstanding $3,000,000 of letters of credit. With the new revolver in the same scenario, we will continue to have $115,000,000 of revolver availability less the letters of credit. With that background, let me turn to the next slide to further demonstrate the benefit that the announced financing agreements will provide to our liquidity position and our debt maturity profile. As I mentioned earlier, we ended the Q3 with total liquidity of approximately $254,000,000 Factoring in the new $275,000,000 delayed draw term loan when fully drawn, this would more than double our current liquidity, increasing it to approximately $529,000,000 Turning to our debt maturity profile, the new $275,000,000 delayed draw term loan matures in 2029. As it relates to the existing $950,000,000 notes, the exchange offering provides a 1 year extension versus the current maturity date. Speaker 300:21:43Therefore, assuming full participation in the upcoming exchange offer, we will have no outstanding debt maturities until December of 2029. Further, as I indicated previously, the revolver originally maturing in May of 2027 has been extended 18 months to November of 2028. Overall, we are proud to have reached this outcome with our partners and appreciate their confidence in our ability to guide the company through the current down cycle and to restore the company to profitable growth. Let me turn the call back to Tim for some final comments on our outlook. Speaker 200:22:23Thanks, Rory, and let me summarize. GrafTech continues to deliver on our outlook and its initiatives as we continue to focus on controlling the controllable. We're proud of our team's execution and supported by our announced financing transaction, we remain confident in our ability to manage through the near term environment. As we look ahead, our long term optimism about our industry remains intact. While we remain cautious on near term steel industry trends, we have consistently noted that cyclical downturns eventually come to an end. Speaker 200:22:54In addition, we continue to believe that our industry has many long term and sustainable tailwinds. Combined with our unique position and competitive advantages, we remain confident we are well positioned to capitalize. For these reasons, we believe the long term growth opportunities in front of us are very real. Let me provide some more color on these concepts. In October, the World Steel Association published their most recent short term outlook for global steel demand. Speaker 200:23:21On a positive note, World Steel is projecting 3% growth for steel demand outside of China in 2025. This includes projected growth in nearly all of our key regions, including the EU, the Americas, the Middle East and in Africa. And although the global steel market is rebounding more slowly than many initially expected, we find the projected growth to be encouraging. During this time, we have shown incredible cost and spending discipline, but we cannot cut our way to growth and improve financial performance. Ultimately, the improved steel demand as well as the impact of announced supply reductions, announced price increases and the like need to translate into a healthier pricing environment. Speaker 200:24:05A healthy steel industry needs a healthy graphite electrode industry. And the current pricing levels we are seeing in many of our regions are not sustainable and do not promote the long term health of our industry. We spoke about this on our last call and we are encouraged that we are now seeing this recognized by others. Pivoting to the longer term. We continue to expect decarbonization efforts to drive a transition in the approach to steel making with electric arc furnaces continuing to increase share of total steel production. Speaker 200:24:35Based on the latest production statistics published by the World Steel Association, the EAF method of steel making accounted for 50% of global steel production outside of China in 2023, an increase from 44% in 2015 with market share growth in nearly every region. This trend of EAF share growth is expected to continue. As we've noted previously, we're tracking approximately 200 announced projects from steel manufacturers regarding plans for new EAF facilities or expansions of existing facilities. Outside of China, these projects are expected to result in over 170,000,000 metric tons per year of new EAF steel production capacity coming online by the end of this decade, with much of this growth concentrated in our key commercial regions. This in turn is expected to drive incremental demand for graphite electrodes. Speaker 200:25:25In fact, that 170,000,000 metric tons of EAF steel capacity, even at conservative assumptions around utilization rates at 75%, could translate into about 200,000 metric tons of incremental demand for graphite electrodes on an annual basis. That would be 25% more than the total manufacturing capacity that currently exists outside of China. All in, this would drive graphite electrode demand increasing at a compound annual growth rate of 3% to 4% through the end of the decade. Importantly, about 80% of that growth would take place in regions where we already have a strong presence. Moving on to petroleum needle coke. Speaker 200:26:04The anticipated demand growth for petroleum needle coke, the key raw material we use to produce graphite electrodes will also present a tailwind for our business given our substantial vertical integration. We expect this demand for high quality needle coke to be driven by 2 key factors. 1st, the demand for graphite electrodes from the ongoing shift to EAF steelmaking I just spoke to and second and more importantly, the demand for synthetic graphite anode material for use in electric vehicle batteries where needle coke is a key precursor material. Growing demand for needle coke should result in elevated needle coke pricing. Given the high historical correlation between petroleum needle coke pricing and graphite electrode pricing, this trend should translate to higher market pricing for graphite electrodes. Speaker 200:26:48This again reinforces the key competitive advantage that our substantial vertical integration into needle coke affords us as it relates to our graphite electrode business. Both within and beyond graphite electrodes, we continue to focus on ways to maximize the value of our unique assets and capabilities. This includes pursuing partnership opportunities to expand the production capacity of Seadrift. An expansion would provide meaningful capacity to serve the anode material market, while maintaining adequate capacity to remain substantially vertically integrated for graphite electrodes. As it further relates to participating in the growing in the growth of the anode material market, we are also making investments within our R and D function, including pilot scale assets in our technical center to advance our technical capabilities. Speaker 200:27:37This remains a dynamic and exciting opportunity with our assets and expertise positioning us well to be a key player in this space. In closing, to manage through the challenging near term industry dynamics, we set out a plan and we're executing against it. We're confident in steps we're taking have improved that the position that GrafTech to benefit as the global steel market rebounds. Longer term, as decarbonization efforts drive a further shift to electric arc furnace steelmaking and higher graphite electrode demand, we are poised to capitalize on that anticipated growth. Our confidence is anchored in GrafTech's distinct set of assets, capabilities and competitive advantages that we've spoken to. Speaker 200:28:24Overall, we're proud of our recent accomplishments and remain confident in GrafTech generating great value for its stockholders. This concludes our prepared remarks. We'll now open the call for questions. Operator00:28:38Thank you. And ladies and gentlemen, we will now begin the question and answer session. And your first question comes from the line of Bill Peterson with JPMorgan. Please go ahead. Speaker 500:29:10Yes. Hi. Good morning. Thanks for taking the questions and nice job on the cost on efforts you've been doing. Just on the near term environment, competitive in pricing, spot looks like it's fallen another $200 per ton. Speaker 500:29:24The near term commentary remains weak, which is consistent over the last few quarters. But I guess how did the spot pricing decline compared to the latest needle coke pricing you're seeing? And I guess how should we think about the pricing expectations in your order book quarter to date or near term? Speaker 200:29:41Yes. Thanks, Bill. And I think you're absolutely right in the observation around the spot market, right? We've seen a fairly steady decline in pricing as we've gone through the balance of the year, winding up this quarter at about $41.50 on a weighted average basis across all the geographies. I would say that needle coke prices have remained relatively consistent over that time. Speaker 200:30:06We're still in the, call it, dollars 1,000 to $1300 range depending on grades and jurisdiction for needle coke. So, we've seen a little bit of a floor or at least a price support level on the needle coke side. But you're still seeing some slide on the electrode side. Some of that's timing related, right, as contracts are negotiated and delivered as we go through the quarter. But yes, still a tough pricing environment. Speaker 200:30:38But certainly, I think as we look forward, again, for all of the reasons that we've stated, whether that pricing turns immediately or if it takes a little bit of time, we do anticipate a rebound both in needle coke pricing as demand picks up for needle coke, which again then has a knock on effect and will drive up electrode pricing. I think as you look at the industry more broadly, and I commented that a healthy steel industry needs a healthy electrode industry. Pricing in many of the jurisdictions we're seeing right now, I would not describe as healthy or sustainable for any of the key players in this market. So, at some point in time, either companies will continue to take action, whether that's announced supply reductions, which we've talked about our announcement back in Q1, we talked about other announcements in Q2, or you'll see pricing actions, which again we've seen some pricing announcement here by competitors in the market more recently. So those actions will have to take place to balance out the market because otherwise you won't have a healthy market to underpin all of the demand growth for steel going forward. Speaker 500:31:53Okay. Thanks for that. And again, on the cost side, better than expected, which we would have thought with maybe the sales environment may not have seen as much fixed cost absorption. So I guess, how should we think about the potential for cost downs and maybe underlying assumptions around your growth expectations for next year? How should we think about that progressing over the next several quarters? Speaker 200:32:15Yes. So, let me start and then I'll turn it over to Rory to comment a little bit more on the cost side. But I mean, this is a really tremendous effort by our teams, right? This is the self help that we can do for our business and there's been a tremendous amount of energy on the cost side to work this down. We are benefiting from increasing volume, which is helping on a fixed cost basis, but the operations team more broadly has done a really good job of being laser focused on cost control and expect that to continue. Speaker 200:32:46So I'll turn it over to Rory and he can provide some more details. Speaker 300:32:50Yes. So thanks, Bill. Just a reminder on our cost breakdown. Essentially our production cost is about 25% fixed, the largest component of that fixed cost being labor costs. The remainder is probably evenly split between needle coke costs and other variable costs such as energy, freight costs and the like. Speaker 300:33:12We have made tremendous progress in not only controlling the variable costs through different procurement strategies, different process engineering improvements that we've made, But we've also kind of we've diversified our supplier base. So we brought down some of the price of some of our raw materials through qualification of additional vendors and the like. So we've created a little bit of a pricing battle between some of our vendors and it's really starting to show benefits. So that's for 2024. As you know in 2024, we also took out a lot of fixed costs with the curtailment of St. Speaker 300:33:54Mary's. We also took some overhead cost reduction initiatives in the Q1 of the year. So moving into 2025, we're going to see the wraparound effect of all the things I've just mentioned. Those things coupled with an outlook of increased volumes and fixed cost leverage is really what we're looking at as the key sources of bringing down continuing to bring down that cash cost per ton into the future. Speaker 500:34:25Yes, thanks, Annette. Rory, if I could sneak one more in. The battery comment, it sounds like you're looking to invest more in here. Just wondering here, how does the change in government, how does that change your view of, let's say, a government that likes to balance and have local production and local manufacturing versus maybe a potential likelihood that some of the domestic content kickers may be going away. I guess, do you see any change in your customers' behavior or wanting to work with you? Speaker 500:34:53Or is it actually consistent and looking to move ahead? Speaker 200:34:58Yes, I don't think well, I would say it's too early to and I'm not going to speculate on what outcomes of elections are otherwise going to drive or how that's going to change the landscape. But I think there still remains strong interest in the needle coke that Seadrift provides and what the work that me and the team have been doing from a development perspective, on the needle coke front and how that can be a suitable precursor for anode materials. So, we still feel very optimistic about our ability to leverage C Drift as an asset and again diversify our overall business and expand that operation and really again have material to put into the anode market as an end market, but then also continue to solidify our position of being vertically integrated because I think that's a huge asset for us as we think about our business longer term. Speaker 600:36:00Maybe I would just add something to what you're saying, Tim. Bill, we're only 3 years since automakers had to curtail production because of a lack of a domestic supply chain. And I think that as we see the vehicle fleet evolving to an electric vehicle over time, they're going to want to have that domestic supply chain established. And so regardless of which politician happens to be in office, I think it's just good business practice to have that domestic supply chain. Speaker 500:36:36Yes, those comments make sense. Thanks again. And again, nice job on the cost side. Speaker 200:36:41Thanks, Bill. Operator00:36:44And your next question comes from the line of Alex Hacking with Citi. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:36:51Yes, thanks. Good morning. Just to follow-up on the pricing question, I guess, how is the tenor of negotiations for first half of next year? I assume that we're in contracting season. And how has the 20% price increase announced by one of your competitors affected that dynamic? Speaker 400:37:10Thank you very much. Speaker 200:37:13Yes. Thanks, Alex, and appreciate the question. And you're absolutely right. We are in the middle of what we would consider our key negotiation season certainly for customers on an annualized basis in North America, but more broadly for the Q1 and first half deliveries for next year. Certainly, the 20% price increase, I'm supportive of. Speaker 200:37:33I think it's the right move, given all of my previous commentary about the sustainability of pricing and where we feel that electrode pricing needs to go to have a healthy industry. Because right now, I don't think that we think that is healthy across the board. The ultimate level of realization of that 20% is going to depend on a couple of things. 1, the regions that you're talking about, but then 2, it's what's your starting point is. And I don't think everybody is starting from the exact same level. Speaker 200:38:02So, we think it helps, but ultimately, we're not just taking pricing, multiplying it by 20% and moving forward. So, we'll be strategic about it as we approach our customers. But overall, encouraged about the dialogue and the discussions we're having both in the Americas, in Europe and more broadly as well. Probably don't want to say much more than that from an overall contracting perspective as those are active and ongoing dialogues, but certainly can give a broader update and a more fulsome update on our Q4 call in February. Speaker 400:38:39Yes. Thanks for the color. I do appreciate that. It's ongoing. And I guess follow-up question on the HEG investment. Speaker 400:38:48Have you had any dialogue with them? Or this just a completely hands off investment? Thanks. Speaker 200:38:55Yes. No, thanks for that. Appreciate it. And maybe just for a bit of background, so HEG began acquiring a position earlier in this year. They disclosed that position in their annual report in March. Speaker 200:39:11They did inform us that before that public disclosure came out that they had begun inquiring shares in the company. And so, I think they sit today at just over 8% and that's based on their 13 gs filing. So again, an indication of a passive ownership perspective and consistent with their public commentary. But I mean, I think more importantly, it's a good underwriting of our business within one of your competitors, not only comments on the strength of your asset and the unique position of the vertical integration that we have, but they're putting the dollars behind it as well. So, we appreciate that endorsement and yes, so we'll see how that plays out going forward. Speaker 400:39:57Okay. Thanks, Tim and team. Best of luck. Speaker 200:40:00Yes. Thank you. Operator00:40:03Your next question comes from the line of Arun Viswanathan with RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead. Speaker 700:40:12Great. Thanks for taking my question. I wanted to ask a little bit about production and sales. So it looks like in Q3, you really ratcheted back your production volumes down to that 19.4 1,000 metric tons, but you were still able to sell 26,400 tons in the quarter. So it looks like you sold through some inventory. Speaker 700:40:36Would you say that out of some of the and you ratcheted back the rates in some of your European facilities, is that strategy complete? Would you say that you've put your inventories in good positions? How are you expecting production to kind of trend as you move forward into Q4 and into Q1? Speaker 600:40:59Yes. We did exactly what we had planned to do. As we set our annual plan at the beginning of the year, we knew that we were going to take some downtime in Europe for a kind of a combination of factors. 1, to take the time to properly maintain our equipment. Secondly, to manage our costs and thirdly, to manage our inventory down to the targeted level. Speaker 600:41:24So I think the team executed exactly what I was hoping they would do and we're quite happy with where we're at as we go forward. We should expect that production and inventory probably production and sales will largely march in line from here through the rest of the year. And then as we get into next year, as we build out that operating plan, we'll do what it takes to achieve the kind Speaker 200:41:52of the greatest return on assets. Yes, Arun, I'll just add to Jeremy's comments. Think about working, it happened to be fairly neutral in the Q4, a fair amount of alignment again between production and sales. Going back to kind of the increased liquidity, that gives us the ability and the flexibility to rebuild some of the inventory as we go through 2025 in line with our expectations for growth, not only in 2025, but certainly beyond that as well. So, in the near term, fairly balanced, there isn't much more to take out on the inventory front, other than continuing to drive down costs and lower our unit costs sitting on the balance sheet. Speaker 700:42:36Great. And then just further on your expectations, the global steel utilization rate was the lowest in Q3 according to your Slide 6 versus some other recent periods. So how do you see that trending, I guess? And maybe if it's helpful, you can give us some commentary by end market. I know auto, we are expecting maybe flat to slightly down auto global production next year. Speaker 700:43:09What's your expectations on how volumes and production could evolve maybe into 2025? Maybe you could help us out with that as well? Speaker 200:43:20Yes. So maybe I'll start with and we do expect an increase in our sales volume heading into next year. We're guiding to low double digit growth off of what we otherwise expect for this year. So we do think that ultimately we'll see greater demand for our products. Some of that is regaining market share, some of that's increased demand. Speaker 200:43:42If we talk about regions in particular, Europe is still very much a hand to mouth market, where buying is being done on very limited basis and inventory levels are relatively low. I think the U. S, maybe there was a bit of a slowdown in steel production in the Q3. And I think some of that is a combination of just election uncertainty and just taking a pause and a breather, but we don't really see a significant change in the landscape in the U. S. Speaker 200:44:11As we look out, right, still expecting some small low single digit growth as we head into next year from an overall demand perspective in the U. S. I don't think that the outlook on particular industries has materially changed. Probably the one thing that is still waiting or seeing how it manifests itself is all the stimulus in China, what that does to their property sector, their domestic steel production and how that otherwise impacts pricing and utilizations going forward. But overall, I would say that nothing has changed from our outlook significantly and we do expect to start to see a little bit of recovery as we head into next year from an underlying demand perspective. Speaker 700:45:03Okay. And just to clarify, did you say that you do expect low double digit growth for next year? Is that volumes or is that EBITDA or how should we think about that now? Speaker 200:45:15Our sales yes, our sales volume, we expect low double digit growth next year in sales volume. Speaker 700:45:22Okay. And part of that is maybe some of this ratcheting back in different periods this year or what's driving that year on year increase? Speaker 200:45:36So, I mean, I think it's a couple of things. 1, we do expect the market to start to begin to recover. That will be a portion of it. Secondly, I mentioned the development of the 800 millimeter electrode. This is a market that we have been a participant in the past. Speaker 200:45:52We have a product that works as we expected. So we anticipate volume in the 800 millimeter market next year as well as our efforts on the commercial front to reengage on a more holistic level with our customers and regain the market share we lost when Monterrey was shut down. And we're seeing that. We continue to see quarter over quarter increases in our sales volume, while others are announcing decreases in volume year over year. So we're pleased with the effort. Speaker 200:46:25It's just it is a slow methodical march in regaining that volume. But we think best that we can tell, we anticipate that it will be low double digits as we head into next year. Speaker 700:46:40Okay, that's helpful. And then from a profitability standpoint then, so I guess the hope is that you will turn the corner back on to profitability. Do you expect that, I guess, as soon as Q4? And how sustainable is that? Is that mainly driven by your own actions on the cost side? Speaker 700:47:06Or would it be dependent on volumes continuing to improve? And then on that point, is there any cost per ton metrics we should keep in mind when thinking about our initial 25 framework? Speaker 200:47:25Yes. So, a lot there. I don't think we're sitting here just hoping things get better. We are certainly and definitively taking action to ensure that, A, we are as cost competitive as we can be as we go forward. We've guided to now 20% down on the cost side, so roughly $4,400 a metric ton on a full year basis. Speaker 200:47:52We expect that to be better as we head out into 2025 as Rory alluded to. And I think longer term, we expect to continue to be able to drive costs out of the business and certainly as volumes will continue to increase and we get to more normalized capacity, we'll drive down our fixed cost leverage even further. So we fully anticipate being cost competitive as we move forward. In terms of profitability, we've talked about pricing already. Pricing in the Q3 was at 41.50. Speaker 200:48:24Dollars The dynamics to change pricing, you're starting to see some of the seeds being sown, if you will, in terms of competitors announcing price increases, capacity coming offline, right? There needs to be more action that takes place before you see meaningful and sustainable price increases. So, I think as we look out over the full year, if you take kind of current pricing levels and current cost levels to what we've guided to, you're right roughly around breakeven on a profit margin line in the 4th quarter. Speaker 700:48:58Sorry, that's great. I really appreciate all those comments. If I could just ask one more, just on the footprint itself, if your utilization rates maybe are and you are taking this downturn downtime in Europe, are you guys comfortable with all of the assets within the portfolio right now? Are there any actions you can take to either change that footprint or do you need to, given that you do have quite a bit of breathing room now on the liquidity front, maybe not, but just maybe I can just wrap up with some of your comments on that front. Thanks. Speaker 200:49:37Yes. So let me step back and talk to when we took action in Q1 of this year and idled St. Mary's and took some other production capacity offline and kind of reset our nameplate to 178,000 tons. We did that with a view of what we believe the market is going to need and require from us on a go forward basis. So from that standpoint, we feel that the assets we have, the collection of the operating and supply chains we've established between the 3 facilities that are our primary production facilities is the right mix for us going forward. Speaker 200:50:14Those three facilities are all quality facilities. Monterey, ever since the shutdown, has been operating flawlessly. And now, as we sit here today, we've kind of got the whole journey of Monterey behind us and have closed out the conditional restart permit that was issued back in November of 2022. So, we're very pleased on that. And the European facilities continue to run well. Speaker 200:50:44And again, those are world class facilities. So, the footprint is right for today. Where I think that changes is if outlook in the long term somehow changes or it doesn't manifest itself in the same way, then we would have to look at our production network and say, do we really need 178,000 tons of capacity? However, shutting down a plant is not a short term decision or a short term measure, right, because of the fixed cost and the jurisdictions that they operate in. You don't save much money year 1. Speaker 200:51:15So you have to have a multi year view that you don't need that supply before you take it off. All that being said, we like everybody else are here to make money and create returns for our shareholders. So if that doesn't change and we're not able to do it with the existing footprint, we will take the steps that we need to return the company to profitability. Operator00:51:40And your next question comes from the line of Kirk Lutke with Imperial Capital. Please go ahead. Speaker 800:51:47Hello, Tim, Jeremy, Rory, Mike. Thanks for the call. Appreciate it. Just to follow-up on the pricing topic, it seems like there are signs that pricing is stabilizing. I know you're early in your negotiations for next year, but are there any conversations or have are there more conversations than last year regarding longer term agreements? Speaker 200:52:18Yes. I'll let Jeremy weigh in as well. I don't know if there are more conversations about long term agreements. We use those as a means of engaging with customers that want a strategic relationship, right? Not necessarily customers that are trying to lock in what they believe is a low point in the pricing. Speaker 200:52:41Those contracts have to work for both sides of the party. So again, as I commented, they're going to be a relatively small piece of the order book. We're very happy to have them and we're very pleased with the engagement and the partnership that we forge with those customers that are engaging them. They're not for everybody. Not everybody buys on the longer term horizon. Speaker 200:53:01So I don't know if there's more conversations necessarily about longer term agreements today than there was a year ago. Probably, yes, just given the fact that last year we were in the 1 year removed from the Monterey shutdown and we were just again trying to reinforce our position in the industry and that GrafTech is going to be around next year and the year after and for the long run. So, but yes, I guess maybe a little bit of color there on how we're thinking about these agreements. Speaker 800:53:34That's interesting. I appreciate it. Thank you. And then a follow-up on the competitor that raised prices. Is that focused on any particular region? Speaker 800:53:46Can you comment on the timing? And how that would come about? Would you typically have some sense as to how customers will react to that before you announce something like that? Speaker 200:54:02Yes. I don't know if I can comment on what level of comfort or confidence they had in the ability to get a 20% increase to stick and the timing of that announcement. Certainly, again, it's an appropriate step as we look out and try improve the health of the industry more broadly. But I really can't comment much beyond that. Speaker 800:54:29Okay. And then lastly, congratulations on the new money. And I think you touched on this, but I just want to make sure, are there any financial covenants in the delayed draw term loan that would prevent you from accessing that facility? Speaker 200:54:45Yes. So Kirk, thanks for that and appreciate the question. Maybe just a quick comment. I mean, we view this as really an important transaction for us to take the liquidity issue off the front and center question for not only investors, but our customers and really allow us to operate our business, focus on things that we can control like cutting costs, engaging with customers. So this is a really big transaction for us and we're pleased to have the support of our lenders and RCF lenders to do so. Speaker 200:55:23But with respect to the covenants, I'll let Rory comment on those. Speaker 300:55:28As far as accessibility of the new money, as we said, it's accessible for 19 months from closing. So, the delayed draw component of it is accessible for 19 months. The covenants are, I'd consider them customary. There are certain restrictions on taking on additional debt and the like, but there's no surprise covenants that would prevent us from accessing that second draw or that additional draw after the initial funding to answer your question directly. Speaker 800:56:01Awesome. I appreciate it. Thank you. Speaker 200:56:04Thank you. Operator00:56:08Your next question comes from the line of Matt Bittergiuoso with Jefferies. Please go ahead. Speaker 900:56:16Yes, good morning. Thanks for taking my call and congrats on the transaction. I guess just to follow-up on that last comment on restrictions around additional first lien debt. I think that would be the key for the existing bonds that are now going to be 2nd lien bonds. How much additional debt can you layer in at that new 1st lien layer? Speaker 900:56:37Is that something you can provide us today? Speaker 300:56:43I don't think I can provide that to you off the top of my head. I'm happy to follow-up. Speaker 900:56:48Okay. But there is a cap on additional 1st lien debt that comes from? Speaker 300:56:52Yes, there is. And again, the first priority debt is now the new money of $2.75 and the revolving credit facility of $2.25 So we have those 2 priority instruments, which again, we view the revolver as standby liquidity, if anything, the $2.75 is the liquidity that we've obtained in this new money transaction. Speaker 900:57:19Yes. Okay. And then my second question or comment would be, obviously great to have the support of your lenders. And I think this is a great transaction to extend runway and give you time to hopefully see better days in the electrode market. I guess the one thing that some folks were potentially looking for was your ability to capture some discount. Speaker 900:57:43The existing bonds had obviously traded at some pretty low dollar prices. Was that a consideration at any point? And I guess the fact that you didn't push for discount capture, does that suggest that you guys are ultimately comfortable with this debt load? Like in your mind as earnings recover, is this the appropriate debt load for this company on say like a mid cycle earnings? Speaker 200:58:11Yes. Thanks for that Matt. And as you know, I mean there's always levers that are push and pulls in these sort of transactions and negotiations and it's a balance of what's most important in terms of whether it's the cost of the debt, whether it's the maturity, whether it's discount capture. And so I think without getting into specifics, we weighed kind of all of those options and said this was ultimately the best deal that gave us very cost competitive capital for a company like ours. It gave us the maturity extension we wanted and it also gave us the strategic flexibility to continue to pursue kind of the growth and expansion opportunities that are important to us. Speaker 200:58:54So, we're very pleased with the deal and the construct that we reached in there. With respect to the overall leverage perspective, right, we've talked about this in the past and I don't think my view on this has changed. We ultimately will need to bring our leverage down, and we'll do that over time. But this was an important step again to ensure that the liquidity question is off the table, the pressures that are associated with the liquidity questions are off the table and allow us to focus on running the business and move forward. So over time, debt will come down. Speaker 200:59:26We will improve the overall leverage that will happen twofold. 1, by reducing debt, but also increasing overall EBITDA levels as we go forward. Speaker 900:59:38Great. Again, congrats on the transaction. Thanks, guys. Speaker 200:59:40Thanks. Appreciate it. Operator00:59:43And your last question comes from the line of Abe Landa with Bank of America. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:59:50Good morning. Also congratulations on the Group Free transaction. I noticed within your 8 ks, you provided some EBITDA unlevered free cash flow guidance. I'm wondering if you can maybe provide some of the underlying price volume and cash COGS per ton assumptions? Speaker 201:00:09Yes. Thanks Abe and appreciate that. So certainly and customary with transactions like this, we did provide forward looking outlook to support the underwriting process of both our existing bond holders as well as the revolving credit facility lenders. I will say and maybe just say this upfront, it doesn't really change our perspective on how we're going to provide guidance and kind of more near term guidance and outlooks will remain customary to what we've historically done in terms of some direction and some short term indications of where we think the business is heading. But I think if you look more broadly, that 5 year outlook is really underpinned. Speaker 201:00:53In the short term on, our views around the market as it exists today. Some of the data points that we've talked to around the short term outlook from World Steel, our engagement with customers, our views on cost in the short run. As we look out further, the longer term outlook is really underpinned by the growth of the EAF industry, the growth in the demand for needle coke, and all of our kind of benefits that we get associated with that as well, both from the electrode business and where we want to head on the EV business. I will add that if you look at our existing footprint of operating assets in the 187,000 tons of capacity, that is the base assumption in that outlook. It's not assuming a broad expansion of any sort of assets as we look out there. Speaker 201:01:43So that's really a view on the base business. And longer term and we've talked a lot about this in the past, we think there's strong support for both needle coke pricing as a key raw material, but then more importantly electrode pricing to return to historical averages and that will be a combination of industry growth as well as demand on the needle coke side. So those longer term averages kind of underwrite our expectations into the future, as well as our views around costs that we've talked about. So costs in the neighborhood of 4,400 for this year, expect that to come down in 25 and we'll continue to drive down costs and get the benefit of fixed cost leverage as we go forward. So beyond that, I don't want to get into specifics on year over year type of movements or changes, but hopefully that gives you a little bit of color and views around kind of the thinking of that those outlook items. Speaker 101:02:44Yes, that does provide a nice framework. Maybe one more on the debt transaction. It seems like there's some additional subsidiary guarantors of foreign subs. Can you maybe better describe what's new there? Speaker 301:03:01Yes. So we've included in the collateral package the majority of the assets in our foreign locations as part of the collateral package. There are some that are excluded. We continue to have some non operating legal entities in foreign jurisdictions that aren't included in the collateral package, but Speaker 401:03:19we've Speaker 301:03:20included it's a pretty significant increase in the assets subject to the collateral package. I think what we can say safely that all of the operating assets are included at this time. Speaker 101:03:39And lastly, just given the elections, I know Trump has proposed a number of tariffs. Can you maybe just talk about the potential impact of future tariffs, maybe not only in North America, but I know other countries globally, but also announced potential tariffs on steel coming from China, and how that would impact the industry in general? Thank you. Speaker 201:04:00Yes. Again, I'm not sure I want to speculate on how an administration plays out. I mean, yes, the U. S. Is a very important market to us and yes, we're headquartered in the U. Speaker 201:04:10S. But we have operations and customers globally and it's just one of many geopolitical forces that impact our business. I would say the administration, the last go around was very pro steel, pro domestic steel and certainly that helps our U. S. Customers and continues to support what is an otherwise healthy industry. Speaker 201:04:31And I think you're seeing the world more broadly take a bit of a position more quickly than maybe they did back in 2015, 2016, 2017 on China and the exports, right? And I don't think the world is going to let a repeat happen where that flood of low priced exports erodes and otherwise decimates domestic steel market. So given the fact that our 2 main regions are the Americas and Europe, we'll continue to benefit from the trade protections that are in place on the electrode side. We expect those regions to continue to have tariffs in place on the steel side, which will support those domestic markets. But that leaves other areas of the world kind of exposed to Chinese exports and those continue to be challenged markets broadly for both steel and the electrode business more broadly. Speaker 201:05:29So that's where I think we go back to China needing some reform on their part, whether that comes in the form of rationalizing their domestic supply both on the steel and the electrode side or more importantly is as they continue to establish their scrap supply chains and collection vehicles that EAF industry not only grows to the stated 15% that they're targeting, which again is an extra 50,000,000 tons of annual steel production, but that it runs at a utilization rate similar to where their blast furnaces run. So you get back to north of 70%, 75% blended kind of rate on utilization, that would go a long way to otherwise supporting the industry more broadly. Operator01:06:19Thank you. And this concludes our question Thank you. And this concludes our question and answer session. I will now hand the call back over to Mr. Flanagan for closing comments. Speaker 201:06:29Thanks, Luty. I appreciate everyone's time today and your ongoing support of GrafTech. We look forward to speaking with you next call. Operator01:06:36Thank you. And this now concludes our presentation. Thank you all for attending. You may now disconnect.Read morePowered by