NASDAQ:ABCL AbCellera Biologics Q3 2024 Earnings Report $2.43 -0.01 (-0.41%) Closing price 04/15/2025 04:00 PM EasternExtended Trading$2.41 -0.02 (-0.82%) As of 09:25 AM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. Earnings HistoryForecast AbCellera Biologics EPS ResultsActual EPS-$0.17Consensus EPS -$0.14Beat/MissMissed by -$0.03One Year Ago EPS-$0.10AbCellera Biologics Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$6.51 millionExpected Revenue$8.95 millionBeat/MissMissed by -$2.44 millionYoY Revenue GrowthN/AAbCellera Biologics Announcement DetailsQuarterQ3 2024Date11/4/2024TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateMonday, November 4, 2024Conference Call Time5:00PM ETUpcoming EarningsAbCellera Biologics' Q1 2025 earnings is scheduled for Thursday, May 8, 2025, with a conference call scheduled at 5:00 PM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Q1 2025 Earnings ReportConference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by AbCellera Biologics Q3 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrNovember 4, 2024 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 10 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good afternoon, and welcome to AbCellaris Q3 2024 Business Update Conference Call. My name is Tamiya, and I will facilitate the audio portion of today's interactive broadcast. At this time, I would now like to turn the call over to Trent Stymar, Acelaros' Chief Legal and Compliance Officer. You may proceed. Speaker 100:00:29Thank you. Good morning, good afternoon and good evening to everyone listening around the world. Thank you for joining us for Acelera's 2024 Q3 earnings call. I'm Trinse Simart, Acelera's Chief Legal and Compliance Officer. Joining me on today's call are Doctor. Speaker 100:00:45Paul Hansen, Acelaris' President and CEO and Andrew Booth, Acelaris' Chief Financial Officer. During this call, we anticipate making projections and forward looking statements based on our current expectations and pursuant to the Safe Harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Our actual results could differ materially due to several factors as set forth in our latest Form 10 ks and subsequent Forms 10 Q and 8 ks filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Ambacelara does not undertake any obligation to update any forward looking statements whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise. Our presentation today includes our earnings press release issued earlier today and our SEC filings are available on our Investor Relations website. Speaker 100:01:33The information we provide about our pipeline is for the benefit of the investment community and is not intended to be promotional. As we transition to our prepared remarks, please note that all dollars referred to during the call are in U. S. Dollars. After our prepared remarks, we will open the lines for questions and answers. Speaker 100:01:51Now, I'll turn the call over to Carl Hansen. Speaker 200:01:56Thanks, Trin, and thank you everyone for joining us today. Given that there were few new disclosures this quarter, I'll use today's prepared remarks to give a brief update on Apsara's position and our progress. It was a year ago that we committed to building an internal pipeline and transitioning from a platform company to a clinical stage biotech. Over the past 12 months, we've reorganized our teams and reallocated our investments, focusing on advancing our internal programs and completing the build of our platform capabilities. The first two programs in our pipeline, AVCL-six thirty five and AVCL-five seventy five are on track for CTA filings in Q2 of next year. Speaker 200:02:36Behind them, we are prosecuting a broad portfolio of discovery stage programs. This includes wholly owned programs against multi pass transmembrane protein targets, T cell engagers and a smaller number of fifty-fifty co development programs on novel targets and a greater antibody conjugates. We are pleased with the breadth and the quality of this portfolio and we are confident that it will mature into a pipeline of differentiated clinical assets. At the same time, are now in the final stages of building our capabilities and facilities. Notably, this quarter, we completed the move in to our new headquarters in Vancouver, finalizing a project that began back in 2020. Speaker 200:03:17We also continue to make steady progress on our GMP manufacturing facility, which remains on track and will come online in 2025. Additionally, over the past year, we have built our translational and development teams and are well prepared for our first two clinical trials starting next year. We anticipate further investments in this team as our pipeline continues to advance and to grow. Turning to partnering. As mentioned on the last call, this quarter we expanded our partnership with Eli Lilly. Speaker 200:03:46Consistent with our focus on pipeline development, our partnering priority moving forward is to build on co development collaborations where we have co ownership of resulting assets. In addition, we will continue to look to engage with existing and new partners on our TCE platform. And in relation to this, we will be presenting updated data on our TCE platform later this week at SITC. I'd like to end by thanking our leadership and teams for their work in successfully navigating what has been a year full of change and challenge. We are clearly on track in our transition to a clinical stage company. Speaker 200:04:21Over the coming years with focus and execution, I am confident that this path will deliver maximum value to patients and to shareholders. And with that, I will hand it over to Andrew to discuss our financials. Andrew? Speaker 300:04:33Thanks, Karl. AbCellara continues to be in a strong liquidity position with approximately $670,000,000 in cash and equivalents and with roughly $210,000,000 in available government funding to execute on our strategy. In the Q3 of 2024, we continue to execute on our plans to advance both partner initiated and internal programs and to complete our CMC and GMP investments. Looking at our key business metrics. In the Q3, we started work on 2 partner initiated programs, which takes us to a cumulative total of 95 programs with downstream participation. Speaker 300:05:09During the quarter, Abdera announced that ABD-one hundred and forty seven received orphan drug designation from the FDA. As we have stated previously, we view our growing list of progressing molecules in the clinic as specific examples of our near and midterm potential revenue from downstream milestone fees and royalty payments in the longer term. Turning to revenue and expenses. Revenue in the quarter was almost $7,000,000 mostly driven by research fees relating to work on partnered programs. This compares to revenue of also approximately $7,000,000 in Q3 of last year. Speaker 300:05:43We expect research fee revenue to trend lower as we increasingly focus on internal and co development programs. Our R and D our research and development expenses for the quarter were approximately $41,000,000 $3,000,000 more than last year. This expense is driven by ongoing program execution, continuing platform development and our increasing investment in our internal program pipeline. In sales and marketing, expenses for Q3 were about $3,000,000 a small reduction relative to last year. And in general and administration, expenses were approximately $19,000,000 compared to roughly $14,000,000 in Q3 of 2023. Speaker 300:06:21The increase is driven primarily by expenses related to the defense of our intellectual property. Looking at earnings, we are reporting a net loss of roughly $51,000,000 for the quarter compared to a loss of nearly $29,000,000 in the same quarter of last year. This loss includes a non cash impairment charge for in process R and D of approximately $32,000,000 This impairment resulted from our prioritization of internal programs and the decision to discontinue the development of next generation transgenic mice. In terms of earnings per share, this quarter's result works out to a loss of $0.17 per share on a basic and diluted basis. Looking at cash flows. Speaker 300:07:06In the 1st 9 months of 2024, we have used approximately $118,000,000 in cash and equivalents. This includes funding all operations as well as the investments completing our infrastructure build of our headquarters and CMC GMP manufacturing capabilities. Operating activities for the 1st 9 months of 2024 used roughly $100,000,000 As a part of our treasury strategy, we have nearly $520,000,000 invested in short term marketable securities. Our investment activities for the 9 months included an approximately $124,000,000 net decrease in these holdings. All other investment activities amounted to a net $38,000,000 including approximately $63,000,000 invested in property, plant and equipment, driven by our ongoing work to establish CMC and GMP manufacturing capabilities. Speaker 300:07:55The investments in PP and E were partially offset by government contributions and the cash proceeds from the sale of our stake in Invitex in this quarter. We expect our investments in PP and E to continue at approximately this rate through the Q4 of 2024 and be substantially complete in early 2025. Altogether, we finished the quarter with $670,000,000 of total cash, cash equivalents and marketable securities. As a reminder, we have received commitments for funding of our GMP facility and for the advancement of our internal pipeline from the Government of Canada's Strategic Innovation Fund and the Government of British Columbia. This available capital does not show up on our balance sheet. Speaker 300:08:36With approximately $670,000,000 in cash and equivalents and the unused portion of our secured government funding, we have approximately $880,000,000 in total available liquidity to execute on our strategy. With respect to our overall operating expenditures, our capital needs are very manageable. We continue to believe that we have sufficient liquidity to fund well beyond the next 3 years of pipeline and platform investments. And with that, we'll be happy to take your questions. Speaker 200:09:04I'll turn it back to the operator. Operator00:09:08Thank you. We will now begin the Q and A session. The first question comes from Allison Bradshaw with Piper Sandler. You may proceed. Allison, your line is open. Operator00:09:45Please indicate you're not muted. Speaker 400:09:50Hey, sorry about that. Yes, I'm sorry. I had a question. Okay, great. Sorry. Speaker 400:09:56Maybe just a question for me on OX40 and the competitive landscape there. Just considering some recent competitive updates, like from rogotinolumab, which I think kind of underwhelms investors. I'm just curious, could you update us or share your thinking on advantages of an OX40 ligand targeted therapy such as 575? Does that data change your view of the landscape? And does your overall view of the space in atopic derm versus other in SLAM indications? Speaker 400:10:31I'd just be curious to get your thoughts on that as it relates to 575. Thanks. Speaker 200:10:38Sure, Allison. Karl here. So, first, yes, we did see the update on ruximab. And I think that does put some additional data on the table to address this question that we've gotten a lot about the difference between OX40 ligand and OX40. Before going there, I would emphasize that, ROCK is also an antibody with a different mechanism of action than what we have in 575. Speaker 200:11:07So ROCK is engineered to be a depleting antibody, which means that it ablates or kills the cells that express OX40. Whereas what we have is an effector null antibody that is non depleting of the target cells, which are antigen presenting cells typically. So I've had this question a lot. My scientific response has been for some time that this pathway is critical to the expansion and survival of both B cells and T cells. And that you should be able to get the effect if you block either OX40 or OX40L. Speaker 200:11:44So prior to that data, I would have said it's unclear that one has a definitive advantage over the other. What we did see with the Amgen data was significantly less response or efficacy as compared to what was seen with amelotilumab. So from our perspective, that reinforces the view that non depleting OX40 ligand antibodies are currently the lead horse in this race. And of course, amlatilumab is the first one that's out there. 575, as I've said before, is engineered to have a best in class profile, namely, potency and developability and half life that we believe will make it, if not best in class, very comparable to the best in class. Speaker 200:12:30It remains to be seen what the early assets will look like. And we are more bullish than ever on that pathway and its potential. So obviously, atopic dermatitis is one of the big indications and the first one that we have stated that we're going to develop into. But beyond that, it has potential in probably a dozen different indications, many of which are significant. And so we remain bullish on that program and we expect to update we plan to present preclinical data at a conference sometime next year, close to the CTA filing on 575. Speaker 400:13:13Got it. Thank you. Operator00:13:18Thank you. The next question comes from Andrea Tan with Goldman Sachs. You may proceed. Good afternoon. Thanks so much for taking our questions. Operator00:13:28Carl, could you just speak a little bit more about the extent of data we can expect at SITC for the T cell engagers? Thanks so much. Speaker 200:13:40Andrea, so at Titsi, we're going to be presenting updated data from the platform technology including highlighting a few programs where we have demonstrated we can use the combination of TAA antibodies and our unique CD3 panel to get desired profiles in both killing and cytokine response. And in addition to that, we will be presenting some of the work that we've done that sets up developing TCEs that are tri specifics and that include binders that are designed to provide co activation or co stimulation to get better sustained T cell killing that is work that's still in progress, but an area that we think is going to be important certainly in some cancers for getting the efficacy that's needed. Operator00:14:35Okay. Thank you. Thank you. The next question comes from Stephen Willey with Stifel. You may proceed. Speaker 500:14:47Yes, good afternoon. Thanks for taking the questions. I guess just with respect to the TCE platform, I know you've talked about how you've been engaged with various partners on this front. But just kind of curious as you think about what you want the wholly owned pipeline to look like and as you think about the longer term investment that is necessary to support an expanding pipeline, how many of these programs do you think you could push forward independently on your own in the absence of a broader platform based partnership? Speaker 200:15:29Thanks, Steve. Karl here, I'll take that one. So first pulling back, over the past 12 years, we have been working heavily to build the core capabilities to develop new best in class and first in class antibody therapies. As mentioned in my prepared remarks, we are getting very close to the end of that investment. And so the foundation in being able to develop lead assets is in place. Speaker 200:15:55And we also have just under 900,000,000 in available liquidity to fund the use of that platform to populate a clinical pipeline of what we hope will be and what we intend to be exciting assets for development. We have already for some time been working on preclinical programs. We have a broad portfolio and are just in the process of doing a portfolio review to prioritize the programs on which we are going to really lean in to populate that clinical pipeline. We're excited about what's there. I think there's a lot there that have potential to be the big winner that we need and to back it up with other ones. Speaker 200:16:36Right now, we have an anticipated pace of perhaps as many as 2 or 3 new development candidates per year starting next year. And we have liquidity to move those forward past 3 years as Andrew mentioned. So once we get there, if we get this positive data on a clinical asset, so compelling data that shows that we have a much better than average chance of moving forward a molecule that can address a large unmet medical need, that opens a lot of possibilities for the business. And we would expect that if we take those into late stage trials, we will need to raise equity financing or out license another asset in order to fund that. But that's still down the road a bit as the first two programs are only going to hit the clinic next year. Speaker 500:17:28And is there any time frame for the completion of this portfolio review? Speaker 200:17:35We'll have that wrapped up near the end of the year. December is the official date. Speaker 600:17:41Okay. Speaker 500:17:41And then just another question on the CTA filings that are going to be taking place next year. I know you have funding in place from the Canadian government, but just curious as to whether or not clinical development because of that funding, if there's a requisite amount of that development work that needs to occur through Canadian trial sites? Is there some, minimal number of sites that need to be used? And if so, how do you think that impacts, if at all, your ability to move through Phase 1? Speaker 300:18:27Hey, Steve, it's Andrew here. Yes, good question. The funding is oriented towards taking close to 15 or up to 17 molecules into Phase 1. And as you note, we have this funding both from the Government of Canada and the Government of British Columbia to do that very cost effectively. But with those Phase 1s being done in Canada, so far with the molecules that we're looking at certainly 575 and 635, we don't anticipate having any issue or any headwind in completing those Phase 1 by running those Phase 1s in Canada. Speaker 300:19:06And it is our intent to do that in Canada. If that turns out to be a requirement or an issue, let's say, for future trials, we can also expand trial sites into the United States if necessary or around the world. But in order to qualify for that funding, those Phase 1s would need to be conducted in Canada. Speaker 500:19:28Okay. Thanks for taking my questions. Operator00:19:33Thank you. Next question comes from Subriquipa Divarkanda with Truist. You may proceed. Speaker 700:19:44Hey guys. Thank you so much for taking my question. I have a question about ABCO-six thirty five. You mentioned that it's being developed for metabolic and endocrine conditions and also target the GPCR or ion channels, which if experienced well has been pretty challenging in the field. Can you provide any more color about this target? Speaker 700:20:07What sort of market it targets? I think you've said $2,000,000,000 in the past, but just wanted to confirm that. And also how competitive you think this space is? Speaker 200:20:19Thank you. Hi, Kripa. Yes, so we have disclosed previously, I think you've covered most of it, that this is a 1st in class antibody against a target for a condition in endocrine or metabolic disorders. And it is against the target that is a multi pass transmembrane protein target, which has been one of the key areas of emphasis. We do believe that quite conservatively there is an addressable market in excess of $2,000,000,000 Beyond that, we're not disclosing any details about that program. Speaker 200:20:52We do expect that when the CTA is approved that we will then disclose both the target and the indication. But until then, we're keeping our cards close to Speaker 300:21:02our chest for strategic reasons. Speaker 700:21:07Got it. Thank you. Operator00:21:12Thank you. The next question comes from Evan Seigerman with BMO. You may proceed. Speaker 200:21:20Hi, there. This is Connor on for Evan. Thanks for taking our question. With a few assets entering clinic in the near term, can you maybe just remind us how you're thinking about ramping spend into the New Year and sort of allocation of resources for internal programs versus partner programs given the recent shift? Thank you. Speaker 300:21:40Yes. Hey, Connor. Andrew here. I think into the new year, the Phase 1 clinical trials for 635 and 575, we're not expecting that to be too significant an increase certainly for 2025 and maybe even into 2026. The costs are still very manageable. Speaker 300:22:00I think our R and D expense, the run rate into 2025 will be very similar to as it is in this quarter and in Q4, which we expect to be pretty similar. You may remember at the beginning of the year, we had projected overall expenses to be relatively flat from Q4 of last year, and it has maintained that. The difference is going to be in the 1st part of 2025, we expect our PP and E, so our CapEx expenses to drop off significantly. They have still been quite significant through 2025 as we've been completing these big facility or 2024 as we've been completing the big facilities build, but that will be much different into 2025. But in terms of operating expenses, actually, I would expect 2025 to be very similar to 2024. Speaker 200:22:53Thank you. Operator00:22:57Thank you. The following comes from David Martin with Bloom Burton. You may proceed. Speaker 600:23:04Thank you for taking my question. Back to 575, you positioned it relative to the other OX40s and OX40 ligands. I'm wondering what about visavis the IL receptor antibodies? Would you expect that you compete for first line with them or for second line? And is there evidence that patients might respond to anti OX40 ligand if they failed IL-four receptor antibodies? Speaker 200:23:39Great question. So first I'll say that in atopic dermatitis, I think it's important to specify the indication. There's really to my mind, 3 mechanisms that are working and driving a lot of the interest. It's JAKs, obviously. There's the IL-thirteen antibodies of which Dupixent is the big one. Speaker 200:24:00And then now, OX40, OX40 ligand coming up. Our view is that, DUPIXENT is a great drug, but it is not working for everyone and there's a substantial fraction of patients that are non responders or that discontinue. I think that's roughly 40%. I'd have to check that. But, it doesn't work for everyone and there's a large unmet medical need and obviously, not a huge penetration yet in biologics for atopic dermatitis. Speaker 200:24:30So based on that, we would think that an OX40 the OX40, OX40 ligand mechanism would probably enter 2nd line behind Dupixent. And that over time, we think it could have real potential to take first line as people start to recognize the advantage, particularly in the durability. So Dupixent being a 2 week administration and Sanofi testing right now both 1 month 3 month and we have a molecule that we believe would get at least 3 months perhaps even more. So we think it could be a competitive product in that space. And the other part of your question was do you think that patients would respond differently to IL-thirteen versus OX40, OX40 ligand. Speaker 200:25:18Based on the biology, we think that that's a pretty good bet, but that remains to be shown in the clinic. I have heard anecdotally that the response rates for patients on ROCK with similar post Dupixent, and so that would lend some credence to the idea that this is a orthogonal therapy that would catch patients that fail on dupi. But I don't think that is really or that proposition has really been tested yet in the clinic. Speaker 600:25:49Got it. Thanks. Operator00:25:53Thank you. The following comes from Brendan Smith with TD Securities. You may proceed. Speaker 800:26:06All right, great. Thanks for taking the question. Maybe just one more on the TCE platform and maybe zooming out just a little bit. I mean, can you just remind us what an ideal partnership there would actually look like? I mean, I understand timing is still TBD, but kind of just looking at how the T cell excuse me, T cell space, a little bit more broadly has evolved with oncology and autoimmunity example. Speaker 800:26:27Just trying to understand a bit more concretely how you're thinking about the direction for that vertical based on maybe what you're seeing in your data and, kind of how that could evolve over the next year or so? Thanks. Speaker 200:26:39Sure. That's an interesting question. First, I'd say that it's typical that modalities sort of rise and fall and sort of ebb and wane in their attention and enthusiasm. We certainly see right now that there's a groundswell of excitement about TCEs. You're seeing that in conversations. Speaker 200:27:03You're seeing that in some of the clinical data and also in some of the deals that have been announced recently. So our view is that we have put in place what we still believe are some of, if not the best tools to create TCEs. What we really need to do right now is address the science and figure out how to put those together to make drugs that are effective and safe for patients. That's going to be played out in part by the work we're doing internally, but also through collaborations with companies that have experience in that space and have interest and commitment to start to do some of the clinical testing that's really going to be needed to make these therapies or to get these therapies the potential that I think a lot of people believe that they have. So in terms of our first partnership, of course, we'd love to get something that brings in some cash upfront, and show some validation for the deal. Speaker 200:28:01But honestly, the most important thing from my perspective is that we work with teams that are deep in the science and working with us to help to understand how best to use these tools to make new drugs that actually work for cancer patients. And this is a story that is not going to play out over a quarter or a year. This is a story that's going to play out over several years. But we are enthusiastic and I think excited about what we're seeing both internally and externally and believe that we're well positioned to participate in what's going to be an important part of cancer therapy. Speaker 300:28:39Got it. Thanks very much. Operator00:28:44Thank you. The next question comes from Puneet Souda with Leerink Partners. You may proceed. Speaker 200:28:51Yes. Hi, Karl, Andrew. Speaker 900:28:53Thanks for taking my question. So maybe first one on, can you provide us an update on the GMP facility? And we wanted to see how the pipeline stacks today into that? And then, just a broader question on BioSecure. Curious if you are seeing any inbounds as a result of the U. Speaker 900:29:16S. BioSecure and just wondering if people are looking for capacity and whatnot? Maybe just first question and then I have a follow-up. Thank you. Speaker 300:29:26Hey, Puneet, I'll take the first part of that and then hand it off to Carl. So you'll remember about 4 years ago, we started on this project and with the plan to bring our first molecules through that facility in like late 2024, early 2025. So we are now believing it's going to be in late 2025 that we'll be bringing our first molecules through. I'd say the project has been doing extremely well. A big it's been a big lift over the last number of years to build the team and get the facility. Speaker 300:29:59As you'll remember, it's a greenfield site that we used, here not far from our headquarters. And we're pretty excited to be bringing the first molecules and engineering runs through there in 2025. And then our next molecules, not 575 and 635 would be manufactured in that facility. And maybe I'll hand off to Carl just to talk a little bit more about that. Speaker 200:30:21Sure. So we have, as I mentioned in my prepared remarks, a broad preclinical pipeline that we are moving forward. There's a substantial number of those or several of those that are now getting pretty close to development candidate. And so over the next couple of months or few months, we'll have clarity on which of those molecules either from wholly owned Epsilon internal programs or through co development are likely to be the first ones to go through the facility. And based on where the portfolio is and how the science is advancing, of course, there's always risk until things are done. Speaker 200:30:58We don't expect there'll be any problem in having valuable programs to work on through the 1st year. The 1st year of this facility is going to be about demonstrating the capabilities and making sure that we've got everything working exactly as it should. After that, I expect we're going to be well positioned to control that capability, particularly given what is currently looking like headwinds geopolitically with the BioSecure Act. So we believe that over time as this capability builds, controlling your own manufacturing will be a major advantage that will provide speed and honestly over time also reduce cost in moving molecules from concept through the clinic. Speaker 900:31:45Got it. My second question is on sort of the priority levels and activity levels within AbCellara. You have a number of internal programs. You talked about pipeline moving forward, 575, the 635, 675 programs, the TCE program, your efforts ongoing on the manufacturing facility side. So can you maybe Carl, can you prioritize for us what are sort of the near term priorities and more sort of medium term as you go into 2025? Speaker 200:32:21Sure. So as I mentioned in response to Steve's question, the situation is that we have in a quite a unique way for a company at our stage, a fully built platform that can generate high quality antibody assets. And we have the capital that we're going to turn over the next few years into a clinical pipeline. So the priorities in the company are really simple. It's make sure that we're making good capital allocation decisions in that portfolio, so that we find our 1st big winner. Speaker 200:32:54And then the second priority is to make sure we back that up with a differentiated portfolio of exciting assets. And the third is to make sure that we continue to work on efficiency and keep our operations focused on that priority so that we stay in control of our future. And as Andrew mentioned, we have terrific liquidity position. We have lots of runway, and we intend to do what it takes to make sure that stays the case. Speaker 900:33:26Okay. All right. Thanks, guys. Operator00:33:32Thank you. I'm showing no further questions at this time. I will now turn it back over to Carl Hansen for closing remarks. Speaker 200:33:41Thank you, everyone, for joining the call today. We appreciate your time, and we look forward to providing more updates in the future. Enjoy your evening and we'll talk soon. Operator00:33:55This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for your participation. 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There are 10 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good afternoon, and welcome to AbCellaris Q3 2024 Business Update Conference Call. My name is Tamiya, and I will facilitate the audio portion of today's interactive broadcast. At this time, I would now like to turn the call over to Trent Stymar, Acelaros' Chief Legal and Compliance Officer. You may proceed. Speaker 100:00:29Thank you. Good morning, good afternoon and good evening to everyone listening around the world. Thank you for joining us for Acelera's 2024 Q3 earnings call. I'm Trinse Simart, Acelera's Chief Legal and Compliance Officer. Joining me on today's call are Doctor. Speaker 100:00:45Paul Hansen, Acelaris' President and CEO and Andrew Booth, Acelaris' Chief Financial Officer. During this call, we anticipate making projections and forward looking statements based on our current expectations and pursuant to the Safe Harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Our actual results could differ materially due to several factors as set forth in our latest Form 10 ks and subsequent Forms 10 Q and 8 ks filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Ambacelara does not undertake any obligation to update any forward looking statements whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise. Our presentation today includes our earnings press release issued earlier today and our SEC filings are available on our Investor Relations website. Speaker 100:01:33The information we provide about our pipeline is for the benefit of the investment community and is not intended to be promotional. As we transition to our prepared remarks, please note that all dollars referred to during the call are in U. S. Dollars. After our prepared remarks, we will open the lines for questions and answers. Speaker 100:01:51Now, I'll turn the call over to Carl Hansen. Speaker 200:01:56Thanks, Trin, and thank you everyone for joining us today. Given that there were few new disclosures this quarter, I'll use today's prepared remarks to give a brief update on Apsara's position and our progress. It was a year ago that we committed to building an internal pipeline and transitioning from a platform company to a clinical stage biotech. Over the past 12 months, we've reorganized our teams and reallocated our investments, focusing on advancing our internal programs and completing the build of our platform capabilities. The first two programs in our pipeline, AVCL-six thirty five and AVCL-five seventy five are on track for CTA filings in Q2 of next year. Speaker 200:02:36Behind them, we are prosecuting a broad portfolio of discovery stage programs. This includes wholly owned programs against multi pass transmembrane protein targets, T cell engagers and a smaller number of fifty-fifty co development programs on novel targets and a greater antibody conjugates. We are pleased with the breadth and the quality of this portfolio and we are confident that it will mature into a pipeline of differentiated clinical assets. At the same time, are now in the final stages of building our capabilities and facilities. Notably, this quarter, we completed the move in to our new headquarters in Vancouver, finalizing a project that began back in 2020. Speaker 200:03:17We also continue to make steady progress on our GMP manufacturing facility, which remains on track and will come online in 2025. Additionally, over the past year, we have built our translational and development teams and are well prepared for our first two clinical trials starting next year. We anticipate further investments in this team as our pipeline continues to advance and to grow. Turning to partnering. As mentioned on the last call, this quarter we expanded our partnership with Eli Lilly. Speaker 200:03:46Consistent with our focus on pipeline development, our partnering priority moving forward is to build on co development collaborations where we have co ownership of resulting assets. In addition, we will continue to look to engage with existing and new partners on our TCE platform. And in relation to this, we will be presenting updated data on our TCE platform later this week at SITC. I'd like to end by thanking our leadership and teams for their work in successfully navigating what has been a year full of change and challenge. We are clearly on track in our transition to a clinical stage company. Speaker 200:04:21Over the coming years with focus and execution, I am confident that this path will deliver maximum value to patients and to shareholders. And with that, I will hand it over to Andrew to discuss our financials. Andrew? Speaker 300:04:33Thanks, Karl. AbCellara continues to be in a strong liquidity position with approximately $670,000,000 in cash and equivalents and with roughly $210,000,000 in available government funding to execute on our strategy. In the Q3 of 2024, we continue to execute on our plans to advance both partner initiated and internal programs and to complete our CMC and GMP investments. Looking at our key business metrics. In the Q3, we started work on 2 partner initiated programs, which takes us to a cumulative total of 95 programs with downstream participation. Speaker 300:05:09During the quarter, Abdera announced that ABD-one hundred and forty seven received orphan drug designation from the FDA. As we have stated previously, we view our growing list of progressing molecules in the clinic as specific examples of our near and midterm potential revenue from downstream milestone fees and royalty payments in the longer term. Turning to revenue and expenses. Revenue in the quarter was almost $7,000,000 mostly driven by research fees relating to work on partnered programs. This compares to revenue of also approximately $7,000,000 in Q3 of last year. Speaker 300:05:43We expect research fee revenue to trend lower as we increasingly focus on internal and co development programs. Our R and D our research and development expenses for the quarter were approximately $41,000,000 $3,000,000 more than last year. This expense is driven by ongoing program execution, continuing platform development and our increasing investment in our internal program pipeline. In sales and marketing, expenses for Q3 were about $3,000,000 a small reduction relative to last year. And in general and administration, expenses were approximately $19,000,000 compared to roughly $14,000,000 in Q3 of 2023. Speaker 300:06:21The increase is driven primarily by expenses related to the defense of our intellectual property. Looking at earnings, we are reporting a net loss of roughly $51,000,000 for the quarter compared to a loss of nearly $29,000,000 in the same quarter of last year. This loss includes a non cash impairment charge for in process R and D of approximately $32,000,000 This impairment resulted from our prioritization of internal programs and the decision to discontinue the development of next generation transgenic mice. In terms of earnings per share, this quarter's result works out to a loss of $0.17 per share on a basic and diluted basis. Looking at cash flows. Speaker 300:07:06In the 1st 9 months of 2024, we have used approximately $118,000,000 in cash and equivalents. This includes funding all operations as well as the investments completing our infrastructure build of our headquarters and CMC GMP manufacturing capabilities. Operating activities for the 1st 9 months of 2024 used roughly $100,000,000 As a part of our treasury strategy, we have nearly $520,000,000 invested in short term marketable securities. Our investment activities for the 9 months included an approximately $124,000,000 net decrease in these holdings. All other investment activities amounted to a net $38,000,000 including approximately $63,000,000 invested in property, plant and equipment, driven by our ongoing work to establish CMC and GMP manufacturing capabilities. Speaker 300:07:55The investments in PP and E were partially offset by government contributions and the cash proceeds from the sale of our stake in Invitex in this quarter. We expect our investments in PP and E to continue at approximately this rate through the Q4 of 2024 and be substantially complete in early 2025. Altogether, we finished the quarter with $670,000,000 of total cash, cash equivalents and marketable securities. As a reminder, we have received commitments for funding of our GMP facility and for the advancement of our internal pipeline from the Government of Canada's Strategic Innovation Fund and the Government of British Columbia. This available capital does not show up on our balance sheet. Speaker 300:08:36With approximately $670,000,000 in cash and equivalents and the unused portion of our secured government funding, we have approximately $880,000,000 in total available liquidity to execute on our strategy. With respect to our overall operating expenditures, our capital needs are very manageable. We continue to believe that we have sufficient liquidity to fund well beyond the next 3 years of pipeline and platform investments. And with that, we'll be happy to take your questions. Speaker 200:09:04I'll turn it back to the operator. Operator00:09:08Thank you. We will now begin the Q and A session. The first question comes from Allison Bradshaw with Piper Sandler. You may proceed. Allison, your line is open. Operator00:09:45Please indicate you're not muted. Speaker 400:09:50Hey, sorry about that. Yes, I'm sorry. I had a question. Okay, great. Sorry. Speaker 400:09:56Maybe just a question for me on OX40 and the competitive landscape there. Just considering some recent competitive updates, like from rogotinolumab, which I think kind of underwhelms investors. I'm just curious, could you update us or share your thinking on advantages of an OX40 ligand targeted therapy such as 575? Does that data change your view of the landscape? And does your overall view of the space in atopic derm versus other in SLAM indications? Speaker 400:10:31I'd just be curious to get your thoughts on that as it relates to 575. Thanks. Speaker 200:10:38Sure, Allison. Karl here. So, first, yes, we did see the update on ruximab. And I think that does put some additional data on the table to address this question that we've gotten a lot about the difference between OX40 ligand and OX40. Before going there, I would emphasize that, ROCK is also an antibody with a different mechanism of action than what we have in 575. Speaker 200:11:07So ROCK is engineered to be a depleting antibody, which means that it ablates or kills the cells that express OX40. Whereas what we have is an effector null antibody that is non depleting of the target cells, which are antigen presenting cells typically. So I've had this question a lot. My scientific response has been for some time that this pathway is critical to the expansion and survival of both B cells and T cells. And that you should be able to get the effect if you block either OX40 or OX40L. Speaker 200:11:44So prior to that data, I would have said it's unclear that one has a definitive advantage over the other. What we did see with the Amgen data was significantly less response or efficacy as compared to what was seen with amelotilumab. So from our perspective, that reinforces the view that non depleting OX40 ligand antibodies are currently the lead horse in this race. And of course, amlatilumab is the first one that's out there. 575, as I've said before, is engineered to have a best in class profile, namely, potency and developability and half life that we believe will make it, if not best in class, very comparable to the best in class. Speaker 200:12:30It remains to be seen what the early assets will look like. And we are more bullish than ever on that pathway and its potential. So obviously, atopic dermatitis is one of the big indications and the first one that we have stated that we're going to develop into. But beyond that, it has potential in probably a dozen different indications, many of which are significant. And so we remain bullish on that program and we expect to update we plan to present preclinical data at a conference sometime next year, close to the CTA filing on 575. Speaker 400:13:13Got it. Thank you. Operator00:13:18Thank you. The next question comes from Andrea Tan with Goldman Sachs. You may proceed. Good afternoon. Thanks so much for taking our questions. Operator00:13:28Carl, could you just speak a little bit more about the extent of data we can expect at SITC for the T cell engagers? Thanks so much. Speaker 200:13:40Andrea, so at Titsi, we're going to be presenting updated data from the platform technology including highlighting a few programs where we have demonstrated we can use the combination of TAA antibodies and our unique CD3 panel to get desired profiles in both killing and cytokine response. And in addition to that, we will be presenting some of the work that we've done that sets up developing TCEs that are tri specifics and that include binders that are designed to provide co activation or co stimulation to get better sustained T cell killing that is work that's still in progress, but an area that we think is going to be important certainly in some cancers for getting the efficacy that's needed. Operator00:14:35Okay. Thank you. Thank you. The next question comes from Stephen Willey with Stifel. You may proceed. Speaker 500:14:47Yes, good afternoon. Thanks for taking the questions. I guess just with respect to the TCE platform, I know you've talked about how you've been engaged with various partners on this front. But just kind of curious as you think about what you want the wholly owned pipeline to look like and as you think about the longer term investment that is necessary to support an expanding pipeline, how many of these programs do you think you could push forward independently on your own in the absence of a broader platform based partnership? Speaker 200:15:29Thanks, Steve. Karl here, I'll take that one. So first pulling back, over the past 12 years, we have been working heavily to build the core capabilities to develop new best in class and first in class antibody therapies. As mentioned in my prepared remarks, we are getting very close to the end of that investment. And so the foundation in being able to develop lead assets is in place. Speaker 200:15:55And we also have just under 900,000,000 in available liquidity to fund the use of that platform to populate a clinical pipeline of what we hope will be and what we intend to be exciting assets for development. We have already for some time been working on preclinical programs. We have a broad portfolio and are just in the process of doing a portfolio review to prioritize the programs on which we are going to really lean in to populate that clinical pipeline. We're excited about what's there. I think there's a lot there that have potential to be the big winner that we need and to back it up with other ones. Speaker 200:16:36Right now, we have an anticipated pace of perhaps as many as 2 or 3 new development candidates per year starting next year. And we have liquidity to move those forward past 3 years as Andrew mentioned. So once we get there, if we get this positive data on a clinical asset, so compelling data that shows that we have a much better than average chance of moving forward a molecule that can address a large unmet medical need, that opens a lot of possibilities for the business. And we would expect that if we take those into late stage trials, we will need to raise equity financing or out license another asset in order to fund that. But that's still down the road a bit as the first two programs are only going to hit the clinic next year. Speaker 500:17:28And is there any time frame for the completion of this portfolio review? Speaker 200:17:35We'll have that wrapped up near the end of the year. December is the official date. Speaker 600:17:41Okay. Speaker 500:17:41And then just another question on the CTA filings that are going to be taking place next year. I know you have funding in place from the Canadian government, but just curious as to whether or not clinical development because of that funding, if there's a requisite amount of that development work that needs to occur through Canadian trial sites? Is there some, minimal number of sites that need to be used? And if so, how do you think that impacts, if at all, your ability to move through Phase 1? Speaker 300:18:27Hey, Steve, it's Andrew here. Yes, good question. The funding is oriented towards taking close to 15 or up to 17 molecules into Phase 1. And as you note, we have this funding both from the Government of Canada and the Government of British Columbia to do that very cost effectively. But with those Phase 1s being done in Canada, so far with the molecules that we're looking at certainly 575 and 635, we don't anticipate having any issue or any headwind in completing those Phase 1 by running those Phase 1s in Canada. Speaker 300:19:06And it is our intent to do that in Canada. If that turns out to be a requirement or an issue, let's say, for future trials, we can also expand trial sites into the United States if necessary or around the world. But in order to qualify for that funding, those Phase 1s would need to be conducted in Canada. Speaker 500:19:28Okay. Thanks for taking my questions. Operator00:19:33Thank you. Next question comes from Subriquipa Divarkanda with Truist. You may proceed. Speaker 700:19:44Hey guys. Thank you so much for taking my question. I have a question about ABCO-six thirty five. You mentioned that it's being developed for metabolic and endocrine conditions and also target the GPCR or ion channels, which if experienced well has been pretty challenging in the field. Can you provide any more color about this target? Speaker 700:20:07What sort of market it targets? I think you've said $2,000,000,000 in the past, but just wanted to confirm that. And also how competitive you think this space is? Speaker 200:20:19Thank you. Hi, Kripa. Yes, so we have disclosed previously, I think you've covered most of it, that this is a 1st in class antibody against a target for a condition in endocrine or metabolic disorders. And it is against the target that is a multi pass transmembrane protein target, which has been one of the key areas of emphasis. We do believe that quite conservatively there is an addressable market in excess of $2,000,000,000 Beyond that, we're not disclosing any details about that program. Speaker 200:20:52We do expect that when the CTA is approved that we will then disclose both the target and the indication. But until then, we're keeping our cards close to Speaker 300:21:02our chest for strategic reasons. Speaker 700:21:07Got it. Thank you. Operator00:21:12Thank you. The next question comes from Evan Seigerman with BMO. You may proceed. Speaker 200:21:20Hi, there. This is Connor on for Evan. Thanks for taking our question. With a few assets entering clinic in the near term, can you maybe just remind us how you're thinking about ramping spend into the New Year and sort of allocation of resources for internal programs versus partner programs given the recent shift? Thank you. Speaker 300:21:40Yes. Hey, Connor. Andrew here. I think into the new year, the Phase 1 clinical trials for 635 and 575, we're not expecting that to be too significant an increase certainly for 2025 and maybe even into 2026. The costs are still very manageable. Speaker 300:22:00I think our R and D expense, the run rate into 2025 will be very similar to as it is in this quarter and in Q4, which we expect to be pretty similar. You may remember at the beginning of the year, we had projected overall expenses to be relatively flat from Q4 of last year, and it has maintained that. The difference is going to be in the 1st part of 2025, we expect our PP and E, so our CapEx expenses to drop off significantly. They have still been quite significant through 2025 as we've been completing these big facility or 2024 as we've been completing the big facilities build, but that will be much different into 2025. But in terms of operating expenses, actually, I would expect 2025 to be very similar to 2024. Speaker 200:22:53Thank you. Operator00:22:57Thank you. The following comes from David Martin with Bloom Burton. You may proceed. Speaker 600:23:04Thank you for taking my question. Back to 575, you positioned it relative to the other OX40s and OX40 ligands. I'm wondering what about visavis the IL receptor antibodies? Would you expect that you compete for first line with them or for second line? And is there evidence that patients might respond to anti OX40 ligand if they failed IL-four receptor antibodies? Speaker 200:23:39Great question. So first I'll say that in atopic dermatitis, I think it's important to specify the indication. There's really to my mind, 3 mechanisms that are working and driving a lot of the interest. It's JAKs, obviously. There's the IL-thirteen antibodies of which Dupixent is the big one. Speaker 200:24:00And then now, OX40, OX40 ligand coming up. Our view is that, DUPIXENT is a great drug, but it is not working for everyone and there's a substantial fraction of patients that are non responders or that discontinue. I think that's roughly 40%. I'd have to check that. But, it doesn't work for everyone and there's a large unmet medical need and obviously, not a huge penetration yet in biologics for atopic dermatitis. Speaker 200:24:30So based on that, we would think that an OX40 the OX40, OX40 ligand mechanism would probably enter 2nd line behind Dupixent. And that over time, we think it could have real potential to take first line as people start to recognize the advantage, particularly in the durability. So Dupixent being a 2 week administration and Sanofi testing right now both 1 month 3 month and we have a molecule that we believe would get at least 3 months perhaps even more. So we think it could be a competitive product in that space. And the other part of your question was do you think that patients would respond differently to IL-thirteen versus OX40, OX40 ligand. Speaker 200:25:18Based on the biology, we think that that's a pretty good bet, but that remains to be shown in the clinic. I have heard anecdotally that the response rates for patients on ROCK with similar post Dupixent, and so that would lend some credence to the idea that this is a orthogonal therapy that would catch patients that fail on dupi. But I don't think that is really or that proposition has really been tested yet in the clinic. Speaker 600:25:49Got it. Thanks. Operator00:25:53Thank you. The following comes from Brendan Smith with TD Securities. You may proceed. Speaker 800:26:06All right, great. Thanks for taking the question. Maybe just one more on the TCE platform and maybe zooming out just a little bit. I mean, can you just remind us what an ideal partnership there would actually look like? I mean, I understand timing is still TBD, but kind of just looking at how the T cell excuse me, T cell space, a little bit more broadly has evolved with oncology and autoimmunity example. Speaker 800:26:27Just trying to understand a bit more concretely how you're thinking about the direction for that vertical based on maybe what you're seeing in your data and, kind of how that could evolve over the next year or so? Thanks. Speaker 200:26:39Sure. That's an interesting question. First, I'd say that it's typical that modalities sort of rise and fall and sort of ebb and wane in their attention and enthusiasm. We certainly see right now that there's a groundswell of excitement about TCEs. You're seeing that in conversations. Speaker 200:27:03You're seeing that in some of the clinical data and also in some of the deals that have been announced recently. So our view is that we have put in place what we still believe are some of, if not the best tools to create TCEs. What we really need to do right now is address the science and figure out how to put those together to make drugs that are effective and safe for patients. That's going to be played out in part by the work we're doing internally, but also through collaborations with companies that have experience in that space and have interest and commitment to start to do some of the clinical testing that's really going to be needed to make these therapies or to get these therapies the potential that I think a lot of people believe that they have. So in terms of our first partnership, of course, we'd love to get something that brings in some cash upfront, and show some validation for the deal. Speaker 200:28:01But honestly, the most important thing from my perspective is that we work with teams that are deep in the science and working with us to help to understand how best to use these tools to make new drugs that actually work for cancer patients. And this is a story that is not going to play out over a quarter or a year. This is a story that's going to play out over several years. But we are enthusiastic and I think excited about what we're seeing both internally and externally and believe that we're well positioned to participate in what's going to be an important part of cancer therapy. Speaker 300:28:39Got it. Thanks very much. Operator00:28:44Thank you. The next question comes from Puneet Souda with Leerink Partners. You may proceed. Speaker 200:28:51Yes. Hi, Karl, Andrew. Speaker 900:28:53Thanks for taking my question. So maybe first one on, can you provide us an update on the GMP facility? And we wanted to see how the pipeline stacks today into that? And then, just a broader question on BioSecure. Curious if you are seeing any inbounds as a result of the U. Speaker 900:29:16S. BioSecure and just wondering if people are looking for capacity and whatnot? Maybe just first question and then I have a follow-up. Thank you. Speaker 300:29:26Hey, Puneet, I'll take the first part of that and then hand it off to Carl. So you'll remember about 4 years ago, we started on this project and with the plan to bring our first molecules through that facility in like late 2024, early 2025. So we are now believing it's going to be in late 2025 that we'll be bringing our first molecules through. I'd say the project has been doing extremely well. A big it's been a big lift over the last number of years to build the team and get the facility. Speaker 300:29:59As you'll remember, it's a greenfield site that we used, here not far from our headquarters. And we're pretty excited to be bringing the first molecules and engineering runs through there in 2025. And then our next molecules, not 575 and 635 would be manufactured in that facility. And maybe I'll hand off to Carl just to talk a little bit more about that. Speaker 200:30:21Sure. So we have, as I mentioned in my prepared remarks, a broad preclinical pipeline that we are moving forward. There's a substantial number of those or several of those that are now getting pretty close to development candidate. And so over the next couple of months or few months, we'll have clarity on which of those molecules either from wholly owned Epsilon internal programs or through co development are likely to be the first ones to go through the facility. And based on where the portfolio is and how the science is advancing, of course, there's always risk until things are done. Speaker 200:30:58We don't expect there'll be any problem in having valuable programs to work on through the 1st year. The 1st year of this facility is going to be about demonstrating the capabilities and making sure that we've got everything working exactly as it should. After that, I expect we're going to be well positioned to control that capability, particularly given what is currently looking like headwinds geopolitically with the BioSecure Act. So we believe that over time as this capability builds, controlling your own manufacturing will be a major advantage that will provide speed and honestly over time also reduce cost in moving molecules from concept through the clinic. Speaker 900:31:45Got it. My second question is on sort of the priority levels and activity levels within AbCellara. You have a number of internal programs. You talked about pipeline moving forward, 575, the 635, 675 programs, the TCE program, your efforts ongoing on the manufacturing facility side. So can you maybe Carl, can you prioritize for us what are sort of the near term priorities and more sort of medium term as you go into 2025? Speaker 200:32:21Sure. So as I mentioned in response to Steve's question, the situation is that we have in a quite a unique way for a company at our stage, a fully built platform that can generate high quality antibody assets. And we have the capital that we're going to turn over the next few years into a clinical pipeline. So the priorities in the company are really simple. It's make sure that we're making good capital allocation decisions in that portfolio, so that we find our 1st big winner. Speaker 200:32:54And then the second priority is to make sure we back that up with a differentiated portfolio of exciting assets. And the third is to make sure that we continue to work on efficiency and keep our operations focused on that priority so that we stay in control of our future. And as Andrew mentioned, we have terrific liquidity position. We have lots of runway, and we intend to do what it takes to make sure that stays the case. Speaker 900:33:26Okay. All right. Thanks, guys. Operator00:33:32Thank you. I'm showing no further questions at this time. I will now turn it back over to Carl Hansen for closing remarks. Speaker 200:33:41Thank you, everyone, for joining the call today. We appreciate your time, and we look forward to providing more updates in the future. Enjoy your evening and we'll talk soon. Operator00:33:55This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect your line.Read moreRemove AdsPowered by