American International Group Q3 2024 Earnings Call Transcript

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November 5, 2024

There are 11 speakers on the call.

Operator

Good day, and welcome to AIG's Third Quarter 2024 Financial Results Conference Call. This conference is being recorded. Now at this time, I'd like to turn the conference over to Quentin McMillan. Please go ahead.

Speaker 1

Thanks very much, Michelle, and good morning. Today's remarks may include forward looking statements, which are subject to risks and uncertainties. These statements are not guarantees of future performance or events and are based on management's current expectations. AIG's filings with the SEC provide details on important factors that could cause actual results or events to differ materially. Except as required by applicable securities laws, AIG is under no obligation to update any forward looking statements if circumstances or management's estimates or opinions should change.

Speaker 1

Today's remarks may also refer to non GAAP financial measures. Reconciliation of such measures to the most comparable GAAP figures is included in our earnings release, financial supplement and earnings presentation, all of which are available on our website ataig.com. Additionally, note that following the deconsolidation of Corbridge Financial on June 9, 2024, the historical results of Corbridge for all periods presented are reflected in AIG's condensed consolidated financial statements as discontinued operations in accordance with U. S. GAAP.

Speaker 1

Finally, today's remarks related to General Insurance results, including key metrics such as net premiums written, underwriting income, margin and net investment income are presented on a comparable basis, which reflects year over year comparisons on a constant dollar basis as applicable and adjusted for the sale of Crop Risk Services and the sale of Validus Re. We believe this presentation provides the most useful view of General Insurance results and the go forward business in light of the substantial changes to the portfolio since 2023. Please refer to Pages 26 through 28 of the earnings presentation for reconciliations of such metrics reported on comparable basis. With that, I'd now like to turn the call over to our Chairman and CEO, Peter Zaffino.

Speaker 2

Good morning, and thank you for joining us today to review our Q3 2024 financial results. Following my remarks, Sabra will provide more detail on the quarter. Then our North America and international leaders, Don Bailey and John Hancock will join us for the Q and A portion of the call. Before we begin, I want to acknowledge the devastating impact the recent weather events had on our communities, which underscores the difficult reality of changing weather patterns and the frequency and severity of these events. At AIG, our claims teams have been working hard to ensure that we respond quickly.

Speaker 2

I'm grateful to our colleagues for their commitment to our clients and distribution partners. This is our purpose and it's when our company is needed most. Now let me move to the highlights of our outstanding Q3 performance. We continue to deliver exceptional underwriting results, maintain rigorous expense discipline, execute on our capital management plan and make excellent progress on our strategic priorities. Adjusted after tax income was $798,000,000 or $1.23 per diluted share, representing a 31% increase in earnings per share year over year, driven by strong core earnings growth and disciplined execution of our capital management strategy.

Speaker 2

Underwriting income for the quarter was $437,000,000 which included total catastrophe related charges of $417,000,000 The calendar year combined ratio was 92.6%. Consolidated net investment income on an adjusted pretax income basis was $897,000,000 a 19% increase year over year. Other operations adjusted pretax loss was $143,000,000 an improvement of $135,000,000 or nearly 50% year over year. Core operating ROE was 9.2% with core operating equity of $34,500,000,000 as of September 30, 2024. In the Q3, we returned approximately $1,800,000,000 to shareholders through $1,500,000,000 of stock repurchases and $254,000,000 of dividends.

Speaker 2

In addition, we repurchased $520,000,000 of common stock in October. We ended the 3rd quarter with a debt to total capital ratio of 17.9%, including ALCI, and parent liquidity of $4,200,000,000 During my remarks this morning, I will provide information on the following five topics. First, I will review the financial results for our General Insurance business. 2nd, I will provide observations on the catastrophe market and specifically AIG year to date. 3rd, I will update you on our progress with AIG next and its impact on other operations.

Speaker 2

4th, I will provide an update on our significant progress in AI and related objectives moving forward. And finally, I'll give more detail on our capital management plan and the path to achieving 10% core ROE. Turning to General Insurance. We had another excellent quarter with strong profitability and growth across our businesses. Gross premiums written for the quarter were $8,600,000,000 an increase of 3% from the prior year.

Speaker 2

Net premiums written for the quarter were $6,400,000,000 a 6% increase. Net premiums earned for the quarter were $5,900,000,000 a 7% increase with $4,200,000,000 coming from Global Commercial. The accident year combined ratio as adjusted was 88.3%. We had favorable prior year reserve development of $153,000,000 a benefit of 2.6 points to the loss ratio. Sabra will provide more detail in her prepared remarks.

Speaker 2

In Global Commercial, we had 7% net premiums written growth over the prior year quarter, driven by over $1,100,000,000 of new business, which grew 9% year over year. Retention remained at 88%, which is an outstanding outcome. The accident year combined ratio as adjusted was 84.2% and the calendar year combined ratio was 89.9%. The GOE ratio was flat year over year, while absorbing over $50,000,000 of expenses that shifted from other operations. In Global Personal, we had 3% net premiums written growth over the prior year quarter, led by 9% new business growth across our global portfolio.

Speaker 2

The accident year combined ratio as adjusted was 97.8% and the calendar year combined ratio was 98.8%, both were improvements year over year, and we expect this segment to continue to improve its financial performance in 2025. North America commercial grew net premiums written by 11% year over year. We had a closeout transaction in the quarter in our casualty portfolio that benefited overall growth, but negatively impacted the accident year loss ratio. Absent this transaction, our net premiums written growth would have been in the high single digits. The businesses that drove growth were casualty at 9%, excluding the closeout transaction, 8% in Glatfelter and 7% in Lexington.

Speaker 2

Retention in North America was 90% in the admitted lines and 78% in Lexington, which is an exceptional outcome for an excess and surplus lines business. New business growth in the quarter was simply outstanding. On a year over year basis, we had 22% growth in new business led by Lexington with 24% growth. And the story for Lexington just keeps on going. We had over 95,000 new business submissions in the quarter, up 35% year over year.

Speaker 2

Casualty submissions were up over 70%, Western World was up over 30% and Property was up over 20%. Also, our Financial Lines new business was up double digits. This was due almost exclusively to a rebound in M and A following a slow new business quarter for Financial Lines in the same period last year. North America commercial accident year combined ratio as adjusted was 85.1% and the calendar year combined ratio was 95.5%, an exceptional outcome given the significant cat activity in the quarter. The accident year loss ratio was 61.8 percent for the quarter, which was an increase of 250 basis points year over year and reflected 2 main variables.

Speaker 2

First, the closeout transaction in Abram that I mentioned earlier, while profitable and incrementally beneficial to the overall combined ratio, it carried a higher loss ratio, which resulted in a 70 basis point headwind. And second, the actual versus expected in the prior year quarter comparison was very favorable as a result of our admitted and wholesale property portfolios experiencing close to 30% rate increases last year that earned in over 2023 and the early part of 2024, creating a 180 basis point headwind. The combined ratio also benefited from a lower expense ratio, reflecting improvement in the GOE ratio. In International Commercial, net premiums written grew 3% year over year. Commercial Property grew 6% as did Global Specialty, where International Specialty grew 10% driven by energy.

Speaker 2

Our Talbot business at Lloyd's also grew 6%, driven by 18% growth in the specialty lines, specifically political risk, energy and marine. International retention remained strong at 89%, which was very balanced across the portfolio, led by Energy and Property, both at 92% and Casualty at 91%. International also had very good new business of over $500,000,000 led by Global Specialty with 25% new business growth in Marine and 40% new business growth in Talbot year over year. The International Commercial accident year combined ratio as adjusted was 83.4%, another excellent result. The calendar year combined ratio was 84.3%.

Speaker 2

Given that the Q3 is usually the most active quarter for natural catastrophes, I want to provide some thoughts on the activity year to date and how the evolution of our underwriting and reinsurance strategy has significantly enhanced AIG's performance over time even in light of this historical increased activity. For the 1st 9 months of the year, preliminary industry estimates of insured losses from natural catastrophes are in excess of $100,000,000,000 which appears to be the new normal. When considering the impact of Hurricane Milton on the industry and the remainder of the 4th quarter, AAON recently published a report that estimated that the 2024 total insured losses for the industry from natural catastrophes will likely exceed 125,000,000,000 dollars When analyzing large single catastrophes, the complexity of determining the initial and ultimate loss is complicated. Modeling firms produce industry loss estimates post event and there are many factors that go into estimating the ultimate losses. It is important to note that no two catastrophes are the same.

Speaker 2

Property Claims Services or PCS is a widely used source for independent property loss estimates in the United States. The loss figures that they provide are derived from claims activity and other factors at the time of loss rather than a judgment of the ultimate size of the loss. As a result, the actual scale of total loss is often subject to misinterpretation. Historically, if you look back at major events including Katrina, Superstorm Sandy and Ian, the final report of PCS figures were substantially higher than their original estimates, illustrating the uncertainty around determining ultimates or best estimates for catastrophe losses. At AIG, we've mitigated the impact that weather events have had on our business as reflected in our improved financial performance even as the world has seen more cat activity.

Speaker 2

Over the last 5 years, our losses have dropped dramatically, both in nominal terms and also in terms of the overall market share of the losses. This is a testament to the work we've undertaken to change and evolve our underwriting strategy, reduce volatility and increase the quality of our earnings. If we use 2012 as a reference point, which was a year with meaningful activity, the total insured catastrophe losses on a nominal basis were $65,000,000,000 for the industry. That is roughly equivalent to the 20 year average and serves as a useful benchmark. Since 2012, expectations for annual industry catastrophe losses have grown substantially.

Speaker 2

The average annual industry loss from natural catastrophes from 2017 through 2023 has increased approximately 90% when compared to the average from 2000 to 2016. Since 2017, 7 of the last 8 years, including the 2024 forecast, have had over 100,000,000,000 dollars of annual insured losses. It's important to note against this heightened level of natural catastrophe losses, based on published reports, we estimate approximately 50% of the insured natural catastrophe losses were absorbed in the reinsurance market from 2017 to 2022. However, following the major market reset in 2023, approximately 90% of the losses were retained by the primary insurance companies, and this is a significant change. As I've discussed several times, the work we've done to change AIG's approach to underwriting and reinsurance has resulted in dramatic improvements in our financial performance and balance sheet.

Speaker 2

Let me give you some specific points to contextualize the magnitude of this impact. Based on AIG's legacy underwriting strategy and reinsurance choices in 2012, AIG posted an initial pretax loss of $2,000,000,000 from Superstorm Sandy, which represented almost 7% of the estimated $30,000,000,000 market loss for that single event. And for the full year 2012, AIG recognized approximately $2,700,000,000 of losses or approximately 4% of the market losses. Today, AIG is forecasted to be within our catastrophe loss expectations for the full year or more importantly less than 1% market share of the forecasted total industry loss for 2024 of over 125,000,000,000 dollars Additionally, it's worth noting that our property portfolio net premiums written are approximately the same amount in 2024 as they were in 2012. However, today, we have 80% lower cat losses and volatility.

Speaker 2

And importantly, our year to date 2024 commercial property combined ratio is in the low 80s compared to a combined ratio of nearly 120% in 2012. We've completely transformed our business over the past 5 years and this is the new AIG. AIG's strategy to manage volatility through our gross underwriting actions and our approach to reinsurance, including our decision to maintain the lowest net retention amongst our global competitors has delivered significant benefits for the company and positions us well for the future in an environment with significantly elevated insured loss activity and modeling uncertainty. Let me take a minute to comment on high level expectations for the upcoming January 1 renewal season for property. The significant reset in the property cat reinsurance market in 2023 means that reinsurers generally have higher attachment points, provide name perils and have significant retro protection and therefore are likely to make an underwriting profit on their global catastrophe portfolios in 2024 given the current loss levels and the benefit of reinstatement premiums.

Speaker 2

With this expectation of underwriting profit, the overall reinsurance market should remain healthy. Despite the strong capital position of the market, generally speaking, I would expect the market to remain disciplined at January 1, not reducing attachment points and focusing on deploying capital to the insurance companies with higher quality portfolios like AIG. Given that this has become the industry norm, as I mentioned earlier, industry losses from increased frequency and severity will continue to be realized by primary insurers and will not be solved by the reinsurance market in 2025. Let me move on to provide an update on AIG NEXT, which we launched in early 2024 to further position AIG for the future. Over the past several years, we've been on a journey to simplify the company by weaving the organization together to operate seamlessly across underwriting, actuarial, claims and all of our functional areas with the necessary skills and capabilities to effectively differentiate AIG for the future.

Speaker 2

In 2025, we expect to fully realize the $500,000,000 in savings from AIG NEXT. These savings will impact multiple areas across other operations and general insurance. As part of the AIG NEXT program, we've established a new definition of parent expense to exclusively reflect costs related to being a global regulated public company and expect those costs to be around $350,000,000 going forward. In the future, costs currently attributed to other operations will either be eliminated or included within the General Insurance results. You can see the impact of this effort already flowing through our income statement as other operations expenses are down nearly $30,000,000 year over year or $40,000,000 sequentially.

Speaker 2

This reduction reflects the expense benefits from AIG Next and the transfer of a portion of these costs to General Insurance GOE. The ability of the businesses to absorb these additional costs with minimal impact to the expense ratio is due in large part to our significant focus on managing expenses. AIG Next has also enabled us to invest in core capabilities and the implementation of strategic innovation initiatives, notably in underwriting, claims and our data, digital and AI strategy. Let me provide you with more detail. Many companies are discussing their data, digital and AI strategies, but what is actually being done varies greatly from company to company.

Speaker 2

At AIG, we're utilizing GenAI and large language models as digital accelerators and applications that support the innovation journey, but they are not the innovation alone. This is what makes our recently announced collaborative space in Atlanta so unique. It will be the 1st location in our global footprint where an end to end underwriting process will exist from distribution and sales, the data insights, underwriting, claims payments and client servicing. This location will allow us to innovate and evolve the end to end process, further develop our Agentiq GenAI ecosystem, drive role clarity and digitize and modernize our processes. GenAI can produce meaningful gains from reducing manual inputs and driving process efficiencies.

Speaker 2

However, our GenAI ecosystem is doing much more than that. It integrates proprietary data from multiple sources with data multiple sources with data ingestion capabilities to give us better data quality in a fraction of the time. In our early pilots, we've seen data collection and accuracy rates within our underwriting processes improve from levels near 75 percent to upwards of 90% while reducing processing time significantly. We're also using our GenAI ecosystem to increase our submission response rate while enabling our underwriters to prioritize the highest value business within our risk appetite. These improvements will help drive growth and operating leverage as we deliver GenAI to our businesses at scale.

Speaker 2

It will allow our underwriters to spend more time quoting and winning business and less time manually collecting data. Our culture at AIG is one that is deeply rooted in underwriting expertise and excellence. We help clients solve complex risk issues that require judgment and a nuanced understanding of clients' needs. Maintaining the underwriter at the center of decision making will continue to be paramount and a key differentiator for us. Our AI initiatives are designed to do just that, deliver better outcomes and drive operating leverage while keeping highly experienced underwriters at the core of the process.

Speaker 2

I'm now going to turn to capital management where we continue to execute our balanced disciplined strategy. Our objectives are to preserve strong insurance company capital levels to support organic and potentially inorganic growth, maintain conservative debt leverage ratios, return excess capital to shareholders in the form of share repurchases and dividends, and maintain parent liquidity. We made substantial progress over the last several years to improve the financial strength of AIG. General Insurance is well positioned for sustained profitable growth. This has been a multiyear process that's centered on executing on our underwriting strategy, while increasing profitability and reducing volatility in our portfolio through a better mix of business along with a strategic use of reinsurance.

Speaker 2

An important result of our improved profitability is our ability to receive ordinary dividends from our operating subsidiaries, which provides consistent and increasing liquidity to the parent company. Year to date, we received ordinary dividends or their equivalents of approximately $3,000,000,000 from our businesses. Our financial strength is also evidenced by the lower levels of debt on our balance sheet. Historically, AIG had one of the highest debt to total capital leverage ratios in the industry at over 30%. In 2024, we have reduced debt levels by $1,000,000,000 bringing our debt to total capital leverage ratio to 17.9%, including ALCI, amongst the lowest in our peer group, an achievement that requires significant discipline.

Speaker 2

Through the 1st 9 months of 2024, we returned over $5,500,000,000 to shareholders through $4,800,000,000 of common stock repurchases and $765,000,000 of dividends. As we've stated previously, we will continue to execute on our $10,000,000,000 share repurchase authorization over the course of 2024 and 2025, subject to market conditions and timing of the closing of pending transactions. The current authorization will bring us within our target share count range of 550,000,000 to 600,000,000 shares. Importantly, our anticipated parent liquidity provides a flexibility to support additional share repurchases, which we will review in 2025. Earlier this year, we increased the cash dividend to shareholders on AIG common stock by 11%.

Speaker 2

We will continue to review our dividend annually, considering additional increases as appropriate, supported by our increased earnings power. This will be an important focus for us in 2025 and beyond. We ended the Q3 with parent liquidity of $4,200,000,000 With the combination of our disciplined capital management, sustained continued underwriting performance and focus on expense management, we expect to deliver a 10% core operating ROE for the full year 2025. We recognize that with core operating equity of $34,500,000,000 at the end of the Q3, parent liquidity, our capital in the insurance company subsidiaries and future proceeds from corporate sell downs, we have excess capital for the size of the business we are today. We will proactively manage our capital over time to support growth in our business, and we will maintain a capital management strategy centered on balance and patience while remaining nimble to execute should attractive opportunities arise.

Speaker 2

In summary, I'm very pleased with our outstanding Q3 performance. As we approach year end and plan for 2025, our path forward is clear. We will continue to solidify AIG's position as a global market leader and remain focused on value creation for our customers and shareholders. With that, I'll turn the call over to Sabra.

Speaker 3

Thank you, Peter. This morning, I will provide details on 3rd quarter results for General Insurance, net investment income, other operations and capital. Turning to General Insurance, adjusted pretax income or APTI was $1,200,000,000 Underwriting income was $437,000,000 including $411,000,000 of catastrophe losses. Hurricanes Beryl and Helene were the 2 largest losses in the quarter. Hurricane Milton made landfall on October 9, and therefore, its financial impact will be recognized in the Q4.

Speaker 3

Peter commented on the complexity of determining ultimates for natural catastrophes and at this point, we have a very wide range of estimates for modeling terms. Claims activity to date for Milton has been relatively light compared to storms of similar strength and intensity. Our current preliminary loss estimate for Milton is between $175,000,000 $275,000,000 The 3rd quarter 2024 accident year combined ratio as adjusted was 88.3 percent, about 140 basis points higher than last year, principally due to changes in premium mix and reinsurance structure and favorable actual versus expected experience in the Q3 of 2023. We also had one large closeout transaction, which Peter mentioned, that increased the consolidated loss ratio by about 40 basis points. Year to date, the accident year combined ratio is 88.1%, down 60 basis points from 2023.

Speaker 3

The accident year loss ratio was 56.4% for the quarter, including the impact of the closeout transaction and 56.4% year to date, flat with the 1st 9 months of 2023. We expect the 4th quarter accident year loss ratio as adjusted will be in line with the 1st 9 months of this year. Turning to prior year development. This quarter, we had $153,000,000 of favorable prior year development, including $34,000,000 from the ADC amortization. During the quarter, we completed detailed valuation reviews or DVRs on almost $22,000,000,000 or 47% of our total loss reserves.

Speaker 3

We reviewed most of the reserves for international in addition to North America property and financial lines. Overall, we had favorable prior year development on short tail lines in Global Specialty and Global Commercial Property and a modest amount in North America financial lines. This was partially offset by $181,000,000 of adverse development in U. K. And Europe casualty and financial lines on about $8,000,000,000 of reserves.

Speaker 3

This reflects refinements in loss estimates due to recent claims emergence and settlement activity on specific exposures in accident years 2019 and prior, consistent with our reserving philosophy of addressing bad news quickly. In addition, we increased U. S. Excess casualty reserves by $72,000,000 due to a large settlement of a legacy mass tort claim also related to accident years 2019 and prior with most of the gross loss in accident years that were ceded to the ADC. We remain very comfortable with the adequacy of our loss reserves having completed DVRs covering more than 90% of reserves year to date and considering the results of our monthly actual versus expected process and other claims diagnostics.

Speaker 3

While North America Financial Alliance had a slight amount of favorable development from accident years 2021 and prior, we did not adjust loss reserves for more recent accident years, which have continued to show favorable indications relative to our booked loss assumptions, consistent with our reserving philosophy of giving favorable experience time to mature. Turning to pricing and loss trends. 3rd quarter experience in global commercial lines was consistent with Q2 2024 trends. Excluding financial lines and workers' compensation, AIG's global commercial pricing, which includes rate and exposure, increased 6%, largely in line with loss cost trends. In North America commercial, which is about half of our global commercial book, pricing excluding financial lines and workers' compensation was up 7% with rate up more than 5%.

Speaker 3

North America casualty rate increases were strong with Lexington averaging 16% and retail casualty averaging 13%. These are well above our casualty loss cost trends, which as we've previously disclosed are at 10% or higher depending on the line, risk and attachment point. Property rates in North America retail in Lexington were consistent with 2nd quarter and the underwriting margin remained strong, supported by cumulative rate increases over the past several years and our disciplined underwriting approach, particularly to cat exposed property. Pricing in international commercial, excluding financial lines, was up 4%, in line with loss trend and underwriting profitability remains very strong. International property continued to achieve overall pricing in excess of loss trend.

Speaker 3

Our global footprint and diverse portfolio enable us to remain agile, focusing on lines of business with attractive risk adjusted returns, while maintaining underwriting discipline. We are confident that the overall strength of our portfolio positions us to deliver sustainable underwriting profitability. Turning to investments. Our investment portfolio is of high credit quality, well diversified by asset class and matched to our liability duration. The increase in interest rates since 2021 has driven higher portfolio yields even as credit spreads have tightened.

Speaker 3

Q3 2024 net investment income on an APTI basis was $897,000,000 up 19% from the Q3 of 2023, driven by increased reinvestment rates on fixed maturities, higher short term investment income, core bridge dividends and other operations, slightly better private equity returns and lower investment expense. Reinvestment yields on fixed maturities and loans remains above runoff yields, providing positive yield pickup in the quarter. The average new money yield on general insurance fixed maturities and loans was 60 basis points higher than sales and maturities adjusted for 1 large sale in the quarter. General insurance investment income was $773,000,000 including income on fixed maturities, loans and short term investments of $718,000,000 and alternative investment income of 43,000,000 dollars Considering the current interest rate curve, we project 4th quarter general insurance investment income on fixed maturities, loans and short term investments to be approximately $710,000,000 due to the impact of floating rate security resets, partially offset by higher reinvestment yields. About 11% of our fixed maturities have monthly or quarterly floating rate resets to SOFR or other short term market indices, which began to decline in the 3rd quarter.

Speaker 3

Alternative income is principally from traditional private equity and now includes real estate investment funds that were previously consolidated. These assets are reported on a 1 quarter lagged basis. And based on Q3 market performance, we expect 4th quarter private equity results may be similar to the year to date annualized return of 3.5%. Turning to other operations. Adjusted pretax loss in the quarter was $143,000,000 a nearly 50% year over year improvement driven by lower GOE and interest expense and higher net investment income, which totaled $125,000,000 in the quarter.

Speaker 3

Considering both lower short term rates and projected parent liquidity balances before proceeds from any strategic transactions, short term investment income could decline in the Q4 by about $25,000,000 sequentially. To wrap up the quarter, the balance sheet remains very strong. Book value per share was $71.46 at quarter end, up 4% from June 30, 2024 due to the favorable impact of lower interest rates on AOCI. Book value per share increased 10% from year end 2023. Adjusted book value per share was $73.90 up 2% from June 30 due to reduced shares outstanding and was down 6% from year end 2023 due to different accounting treatment of Corbridge between the two periods.

Speaker 3

As Peter noted, our debt leverage ratios are very strong. We recently called a $400,000,000 par 0 coupon bond, which will close November 22. Core operating ROE, which measures the annualized return on AIG shareholders' equity, excluding the value of corporate shares and deferred tax assets, was 9.2% in the quarter and 9.3% year to date, reflecting strong general insurance profitability and capital levels. To conclude, AIG delivered another excellent quarter with significant financial and operational accomplishments. We are confident in our ability to deliver sustained underwriting results and a 10% core operating ROE in 2025, and we look forward to updating you on our progress.

Speaker 3

With that, I will turn the call back over to Peter.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Sabra. And Michelle, we're ready for our first question.

Operator

Thank you. Our first question comes from Meyer Shields with KBW. Your line is open.

Speaker 4

Great. Thanks and good morning. I want to start with a question about reserves, if I can. You talked about how recent accident year's financial lines are emerging better than expected, but you're not booking back yet. Can you talk a little bit about what's happening in the older accident years for, I guess, financial lines or casualty?

Speaker 4

We saw the one off issues, but I'm wondering more broadly, is there the same sort of theme in the older accident years that could be getting closer to acknowledgment?

Speaker 2

Thanks, Mara. Good morning. I think Sabre provided quite a bit of detail in her prepared remarks. But Sabra, do you have anything to perhaps give a little bit of context on financial lines?

Speaker 3

Yes. And let me just make a few comments. I mean, obviously, we had very strong favorable development in the DVRs this quarter. Consistent with our approach, we have allowed favorable development to or favorable experience to mature. And this quarter, particularly on shorter tail lines, we had about $300,000,000 of favorable development.

Speaker 3

I would just note that this quarter did not include workers' compensation. That was done in the Q3 of last year. And this year, it was done in the Q2, and we'll do it in the Q2 for next year as well. What I would just comment on in terms of the I'll talk to the excess casualty first because I know that's been some focus. The trigger for the action in North America casualty, excess casualty was for a particularly large settlement, gross of reinsurance, which was from very old accident years that were covered by the ADC.

Speaker 3

Absent this settlement, we would not have made any adjustments in that line because the DVRs for that line are done in the Q2 normally. Turning to financial lines, let me just note that for the quarter in total, we had post ADC, the adverse development on Financial Lines was about $28,000,000 in total. That was driven by the adverse development on UK Financial Lines, which again was an older book with related to some specific exposures. We did actually recognize favorable development on the U. S.

Speaker 3

And international portfolios. And I would note that that was for older accident years. The favorable development that we recognized is generally in older years where the experience has matured as the policy form is claims made, but we continue to hold reserves obviously for those older accident years based on the existing claims or other activity within that book. And we will evaluate again in the Q3 of next year is when we'll do our deep dive on the Global Financial Lines portfolio.

Speaker 2

Great. Thanks, Sabra. Meredith, is there a follow-up?

Speaker 4

Yes. Just a quick one. Peter, you talked a lot about your expectations for property reinsurance in 2025. And I was hoping for an update on your thoughts of the appropriate reinsurance program, property reinsurance program for AIG, whether you're thinking of other of changing your net exposure?

Speaker 2

I covered a lot in my prepared remarks. Again, I think the industry has become experts on reinsurance pricing. And I expect that the market will be orderly, but I don't expect attachment points are going to come down for the industry. What I was trying to outline in my comments was that most of it's retained by insurance companies today. And so therefore, how we're going to price business going forward, how we're going to understand the frequency of cat is going to be really important to do as an insurance company and not rely on reinsurance.

Speaker 2

I don't think we're going to have a material change in our structures. Of course, we have low attachment points. It's very complex and I won't spend a lot of time on it. But we certainly have the balance sheet. We certainly have the risk appetite to take a little bit more net in the event that we want to, but we like having low attachment points on severity and we like having our aggregate that protects us from frequency.

Speaker 2

And so we manage our net according to our risk appetite. It's within expectations and I would expect us to continue the same strategic philosophy.

Speaker 4

Okay, perfect. Thank you so much. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Brian Meredith with UBS. Your line is open.

Speaker 5

Yes, thank you. Peter, I think we're hearing a little bit from other companies about some improvement in casualty, particularly E and S casualty lines and maybe properties monitoring. I wonder if you could give us some color on your view of market conditions and kind of organic growth opportunities here in the Q4 heading into 2025?

Speaker 2

Thanks, Brian. And I'm going to make a comment. I'm going to have Don talk specifically about Lexington. But you're absolutely right. We see opportunities.

Speaker 2

Our clients, we have such strong retention and they're looking for us to solve risk issues. New business opportunities are very good. The rating environment is very good. So we're cautious, but we think there's opportunities to grow in the retail casualty space in multiple segments that we have as well as in E and S. I mentioned in my prepared remarks that our casualty submissions in E and S have been dramatic and we see great growth opportunities there.

Speaker 2

But Don, maybe you could expand a little bit on the Lexington.

Speaker 6

Great. If I could, Peter, just made a couple of high level comments on North America overall and then dig deeper into the Lex growth because they are kind of balanced. So the double digit growth in North America is balanced growth. We're growing the lines where we see attractive opportunities. And to the point of your question, we're growing in all three channels where we operate retail, wholesale, alternative.

Speaker 6

Peter covered some of the North American growth drivers, positive rate of 3% across the portfolio, strong retention of 87%, 90% in the admitted lines and then overall strong new business growth of 22%. On Lexington, we do continue to invest in LEX across all lines. So you'll see LEX continue to show up with more resources, more products, enhanced capabilities going forward. On the 3rd quarter performance, as Peter mentioned, 78% per attention, which is really strong, a 24% increase in new business. And to the point of your question, casualty showed up very well in the E and S space in terms of new business for the quarter.

Speaker 6

We also saw a 35% increase in submission. So the submission activity continues to be very robust in the E and S space for us. It's generated probably by 2 things. 1 is just increasing demand for E and S solutions in general and a flight to quality within E and S. For me personally, when I think about the nature of a wholesale broker today versus when I started in this industry, it's a completely different game.

Speaker 6

The brokers in the wholesale space operate at a different level today, incredibly well resourced, data driven, effectively deploy technology to drive efficiency, which is critical in wholesale. They're also increasingly being embraced by thousands of independent agents for market access and placement capabilities. So Lex will continue to benefit from that trend in terms of the growth of our book and new business. And Peter, just a couple of data points to close out on E and S, which might be helpful. Today E and S represents 12% of

Speaker 7

the

Speaker 6

$115,000,000,000 U. S. P and C Industry. In 2018, E and S was 7% of a $50,000,000,000 industry. So the pie has gotten considerably larger.

Speaker 6

And the last data point I'd give you just on distribution. The top 5 wholesale brokers control over 65% of the growing $115,000,000,000 U. S. E and S market. Lex is very well positioned in E and S and very well positioned with these top brokers.

Speaker 2

Great. Thanks, Don. Brian, do you have a follow-up?

Speaker 5

Yes, absolutely. A bigger picture question here, Peter. So I think you said that you're expecting a 10% core ROE for 2025. If I look at pure companies, they're kind of trending in the mid to even higher teens. What's your kind of longer term view of kind of ROE aspirations?

Speaker 5

Do you think you can get to pure ROEs? And what do you think it's going to take to get there? Is it more margin improvement? You need to kind of grow acquisitions? Just curious, bigger picture, your thoughts there.

Speaker 2

Yes. Thanks, Brian. I mean, obviously, we've been talking a lot about the 10% and gave guidance in my prepared remarks about getting to that in 2025. There's a variety of ways in which we can get there. We talked about our combined ratio and the opportunities to improve that.

Speaker 2

We have such a great underwriting culture and believe that there's lots of opportunities, of course, as market dependent, but our leadership position in the market allows us to remain disciplined and focused on clients. There's the other variables, I mean, certainly it's our equity base. We talked about that a little bit and that we believe we can grow into it. And that's of course going to generate more earnings opportunity, our net investment income, net premiums written both from pure growth in terms of strong retention, more new business, but also reinsurance structures, how we look at proportional versus excess a loss and there's ways in which we can have some tailwinds there. Quality of our reserves, which we continue to emphasize, Sabre gave a lot of detail in the prepared remarks and on the answer just now.

Speaker 2

So we have a lot of confidence there. Capital management actions, we have lots of flexibility subject to when we close Nippon and do other capital market transactions. But there's lots of ways in which from a capital management standpoint allow us to improve. Our ability and track record to successfully manage volatility is very important. And then the last one is our expense management is very disciplined.

Speaker 2

We are executing on AIG next that showed itself in the Q3. We're not looking to hit the ball out of the park every quarter leading in 2025. We pulled guidance forward that we will be able to get other operations, which was substantially higher to a $350,000,000 lean parent, but also get the expenses either eliminated or into the business without increasing the combined ratio. We're well underway. You can see evidence of that in the Q3.

Speaker 2

You'll see more evidence of that in the Q4. So there's a bunch of ways in which I think that we can deliver it. And once we get north of the 10%, we'll provide guidance after that. But thank you.

Speaker 5

Thanks.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Rob Cox with Goldman Sachs. Your line is open.

Speaker 8

Hey, thanks. So I think you guys had previously noted M and A potentially becoming a more meaningful consideration for capital deployment, but you also mentioned revisiting share repurchase guidance as you expect some further liquidity coming in next year. Can you give us an update on your appetite for M and A and how that might help you reach premium leverage objectives quicker than organically?

Speaker 2

Sure, Rob. Thanks. I'll start with the second part. The guidance we gave was that we would do $10,000,000,000 of share repurchases in 2024 and 2025. And so like you can see through the Q3, we are well underway executing every quarter.

Speaker 2

We'll have more liquidity coming in. And so that's the priority with the proceeds coming in from Nippon and as I said, other marketed deals and liquidity that we currently have at the parent company. And in terms of M and A, we have given ourselves lots of options. We have the financial strength, the financial flexibility to explore inorganic opportunities. We're always looking at ways in which we can add strategic relevance and something that's compelling to AIG.

Speaker 2

We already have sizable, very high quality businesses in major markets. I mean, you know about the U. S, UK, Japan, Singapore, Europe. We believe we can grow those businesses organically, but there may be more opportunities to expand inorganically as well. We're going to remain very disciplined, but we are going to look at businesses and opportunities in an organic that may complement our geographical footprint or product capabilities.

Speaker 2

There's opportunities maybe to go into spaces that we're not in today, maybe some of the SME or looking at ones that enhance scale of businesses that we already have market leadership that just will accelerate our ability to execute our risk adjusted returns. So I want to remain very disciplined, very patient, but we have the financial flexibility and the strategic intent of growing.

Speaker 8

Okay, great. Thank you. And as a follow-up on GOE and general insurance, didn't necessarily appear like it decreased as much as the run rate in the first half of the year. So I was just hoping you could discuss kind of the puts and takes in the general insurance GOE ratio and if this level of improvement is sort of in line with expectations?

Speaker 2

Yes. I was actually quite pleased with the Q3 in GOE because we looked at other operations and the significant improvement that we made there on the GOE line year over year and then sequentially. But also we are absorbing a lot of the expenses as they get pushed into the business. And so while the personal insurance year over year, the nominal was down and then on commercial, it was slightly up. When you look at putting $50,000,000 more of cost in, the run rate is actually quite attractive.

Speaker 2

And so we have 2 major initiatives that have begun to earn in the Q3, but you'll start to see a lot more of that in the Q4. And as we get to 2025, one was our voluntary early retirement plan that we had announced in the United States and then we did a restructuring international that just really happened in September. And so you'll start to see more run rate as we get into the Q4 and next year. But I'm really pleased with what we did in the Q3 and believe we are showing a lot of sequential improvement and executing to this future state operating model that's going to be much leaner, much simpler, much easier to follow.

Speaker 8

Awesome. Thanks for the color.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Rob.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Alex Scott with Barclays. Your line is open.

Speaker 9

Hi, good morning. I had a follow-up on just sort of the leverage. And I guess thinking through both leverage down at the operating companies as well as financial leverage. When I look at the ROE that seems to be the place where you're under indexed for some of the peers, not so much like the actual combined ratio and so forth. So I was interested in, I guess, on the debt leverage side, we had a place where leverage can actually begin to come up as you see opportunities, particularly if you do engage in M and A?

Speaker 9

And then on the core operations, I mean, can you frame it all like how much dry powder you see in terms of being able to lean into some of these opportunities if they get better at casualty?

Speaker 2

So thanks, Alex, for the question on leverage. Yes, we have a lot of I think it goes into what I said about potential M and A, where we've given ourselves a lot of financial flexibility if we find something compelling and attractive. I think the high teens of a leverage to total capital, including ALCI, we're very comfortable with. But absolutely what you were asking is a truth, which is if we find opportunities, can we increase our leverage to be able to execute on that? The answer is yes, we can.

Speaker 2

And we're going to be very mindful. Obviously, the primary use for proceeds from the corporate sell down will go to share repurchase, but we could continue to work on leverage a little bit to give us even more financial flexibility over time. In terms of I just want to make sure I understand the second part, which is having we have a lot of capital. I don't think it's look at the moment in time and to quantify what we think is excess today, I don't think is something that is overly constructive just because we intend to grow into that. We have shown real opportunities in our business to acquire new business.

Speaker 2

We had a terrific new business quarter. That momentum continues. And I think we'll get them. Property was probably the one that was sort of slowing down in terms of of pricing, but Milton and Helene have changed a lot. And I think that there'll be more flight to quality and there'll be more flexibility for AIG in terms of our ability to drive property growth than on a risk adjusted basis throughout the world.

Speaker 2

And so like I think the balanced portfolio opportunities to grow, being able to take more net, and being able to hit that 10% ROE is our near term objective.

Speaker 9

Got it. That's helpful. And then maybe a quick follow-up on personal lines in North America. Can you just give us an update on sort of where we stand with that MGA structure that was put in place? And over what period of time you'd expect that combined ratio to come down below 100%?

Speaker 2

Yes. Thank you for the question. I mean North America Personal is in a transition as we've spoke about. It's hard in the primary high net worth business to affect change fast, but we're making great progress. In the quarter alone, the attritional loss ratios improved on a meaningful basis, GOE is down.

Speaker 2

What you're seeing is the acquisition ratio increased quite a bit as we transition to the MGU. Now there's a few things happening that will reverse that in 2025. One is we're at scale, everything's fully put into the MGU and we expect the ceding commission that we paid to go down, I think in a meaningful way. And so the acquisition expense ratio will improve accordingly. I want to talk a little bit about like the strategy that we talked about, which is going into more non admitted and how that's going to accelerate progress.

Speaker 2

And we announced it last quarter, but just a couple of statistics that will frame why it's early days, but it's working. The rate environment that we're in on an admitted basis in the high net worth, we increased 10%. In E and S, it went up 20% on our held book. Our partnership with Ryan Specialty, they're building infrastructure, building sales capacity. We're pointing a lot of retail agents that had no access to AIG or capital for high net worth before are signing up.

Speaker 2

We expect that to accelerate and continue to grow. In the Q3, our new business, 50% of it was E and S. Again, we had good growth. I mean, the nominal is not going to move the needle, but we have momentum there. And I would expect in 2025, E and S alone in our strategy will grow the top line 10%.

Speaker 2

The demand is going to be significant. Our ability to be able to respond to that demand is there with plenty of capacity and an appetite that is going to allow us to improve the risk adjusted returns and the overall combined ratio.

Speaker 9

Thank you.

Speaker 2

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Elyse Greenspan with Wells Fargo. Your line is open.

Speaker 10

Hi, thanks. Good morning. My first question was just on the North America commercial. If I adjust out the one off in the quarter, right, it came in at 61.1 on an ex cat accident year loss ratio basis. You guys were at 61.9% in the first half of the year.

Speaker 10

So I was just hoping to get more colors on what drove the improvement in the quarter and if that's sustainable into the Q4 and 2025?

Speaker 2

Is not going to be like the 91.6% question, is it Elyse? Don, do you want to just give a little bit of insight in terms of what's happening with the loss ratio?

Speaker 6

So in the North American portfolio this year, we've seen some different movements, Peter. And some of it, if you look at we have some one off movements that certainly move the loss ratio, this one which you talked about in your prepared remarks. We talked a little bit about the one time closeout deal that we did that moved it up, so adverse implications.

Speaker 2

I think, look, in the commentary, Elyse, we sort of backed out the 2. There weren't headwinds, they were just anomalies relative to what the prior year was. And then the mix of business will continue to change. We see real opportunities to grow in casualty. And so those may have a different loss ratio relative to the overall portfolio.

Speaker 2

We think there's going to be growth opportunities in property based on the market dynamics that are shifting in 2025. And we see that the headwinds on pricing and financial lines are slowing down. We are not going to continue to ride that way down. And on lead, 1st excess and leading in D and O, I think Don's highlighted this is that we've seen a slowdown in the rate reductions and as we look into 2025, that's all going to stabilize. So I think that mix, if you take out the two things we talked about, which was significant outperformance in property and short tail last year in the Q3 along with the closeout that looks like a loss ratio that's sustainable.

Speaker 10

Okay. That's Yes. That's my follow-up, I guess, would be Peter, just building upon that comment. As you view the market conditions out over the next year, how do you expect the mix to shift between property and casualty relative to where it is today?

Speaker 2

It's hard to tell because as I mentioned before, I think the property slowdown in terms of rate increases should start to reverse as you get to next year because there's so much net that's been retained by insurance companies that they're not getting the appropriate risk adjusted returns for the cat loss at the low return periods and the increased frequency and severity. So I think that's going to reverse. Casualty is very strong and Don went into length on excess and surplus lines. And then also, we're seeing slowdown in financial lines. And so I think that the overall index, I think, is going to sustain, but we'll see when we get into the market and see what happens, what's in particular property.

Speaker 2

But I'm optimistic was why I put some time into it in the prepared remarks that we see a rate environment that's going to improve. I don't know, John, maybe like we just before the call ends, you can give a little bit of perspective in terms of where you see opportunities as we look to 2025 in international.

Speaker 7

Yes. Thanks, Peter. And I'll try not to repeat everything you've said, but you're right. I mean, the dynamic between the 1st party lines and the 3rd party lines is there across international as well. And we're seeing the 1st party lines, we're still seeing good rates and price on property classes.

Speaker 7

But for me, a bit like Don with Lex, we've got these jewels in Global Specialty and Talbot. Global Specialty, we are the number one writer of business around the world. We're number 1 in energy. We're number 1 in marine. We're top 3 in aviation.

Speaker 7

We're number 4 in credit. And we're growing that business really well. You referenced in your prepared remarks, Peter, 6% growth in the quarter, but actually huge growth in Energy, 25% new business growth in Marine in the quarter. We're seeing a different dynamic at the moment where we've grown our international specialty book by 10% in the quarter. Tolbert, again, another 6% growth, but the specialty lines of Tolbert, the products that Tolbert is really renowned for political risks, marine, energy grown by 18%.

Speaker 7

If you look at add that to the fact that submissions are 25% up in both Tolbert and Specialty, our quote rates are higher, our bind rates are higher. We've got huge opportunity there and we're the best in the market at it. So we'll still keep seeing the opportunity.

Speaker 2

That's great, John. Thank you very much and I agree. Before I finally close, I do want to take a moment to thank Sabra for many contributions at AIG. Over the past 5 years, Sabra has always been willing to take on a variety of important complex roles and in each instance, she's always done everything she can to add significant value. So thank you, Sabra, including the most recent role as CFO.

Speaker 2

We wish her nothing but the best in her future endeavors as we welcome Keith Walsh as our new CFO. I also like to thank all of our colleagues around the world for their continued dedication, commitment and teamwork and execution. And I want to thank everybody for joining us today. Have a great day.

Operator

Thank you for your participation. This does conclude the program. You may now disconnect. Good day.

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