NYSE:CDE Coeur Mining Q3 2024 Earnings Report $6.26 +0.16 (+2.62%) Closing price 04/16/2025 03:58 PM EasternExtended Trading$6.18 -0.08 (-1.28%) As of 08:28 AM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. Earnings HistoryForecast Coeur Mining EPS ResultsActual EPS$0.12Consensus EPS $0.07Beat/MissBeat by +$0.05One Year Ago EPS-$0.05Coeur Mining Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$313.50 millionExpected Revenue$289.19 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$24.31 millionYoY Revenue Growth+61.10%Coeur Mining Announcement DetailsQuarterQ3 2024Date11/6/2024TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateThursday, November 7, 2024Conference Call Time11:00AM ETUpcoming EarningsCoeur Mining's Q1 2025 earnings is scheduled for Wednesday, May 7, 2025, with a conference call scheduled on Thursday, May 8, 2025 at 11:00 AM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Coeur Mining Q3 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrNovember 7, 2024 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 5 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Mitch Krebs, President and CEO. Operator00:00:08Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:09Good morning, everyone, and thanks for joining our call today to discuss our Q3 results. Before we start, we want to quickly point out our cautionary language regarding forward looking statements in today's slide deck and refer you to our SEC filings on our website. I'll start off with a few comments starting on Slide 3 before turning the call over to Mick and Tom. We obviously had a very strong quarter, which anticipating. Our strong results were driven by production increases at our 4 operations, higher gold and silver prices and double digit declines in our cost per ounce. Speaker 100:00:55This Goldilocks environment led to double digit quarter over quarter and year over year increases and multi year highs in quarterly revenue, adjusted EBITDA, net income and free cash flow. We applied most of the free cash flow to paying down $50,000,000 of our revolving credit facility. Together with LTM adjusted EBITDA now approaching $300,000,000 we're now seeing our leverage ratios quickly drop as we delever the balance sheet. Tom will go in a bit more detail on our balance sheet plans and priorities in a few minutes. Adding to our momentum and to these multiple converging catalysts was our announcement last month of our agreement to acquire Silvercrest Metals to create a global leader in the silver industry. Speaker 100:01:47The addition of Silvercrest's low cost Los Chispas primary silver operation and its pristine balance sheet will lead to a much larger, stronger company with peer leading expected 2025 production of over 21,000,000 ounces of silver and 432,000 ounces of gold with over $700,000,000 of EBITDA and free cash flow of approximately $350,000,000 Since the announcement on October 3, we've received positive feedback from both Core and Silvercrest shareholders about the combination and for creating a silver industry leader at a time of extremely strong fundamentals for this essential metal. We expect formal shareholder votes to take place around year end and for the transaction to close late in Q1. Looking ahead quickly and highlighting our top priorities, a key focus remains on continuing the progress at Rochester to set ourselves up for what should be a very strong 2025. Rochester achieved its key operational metrics during the Q3 and remains on track to achieve its full year guidance ranges. Mick will provide some additional details on Rochester. Speaker 100:03:05Overall, we've reconfirmed our company wide full year guidance ranges, which implies another strong quarter to end the year and an opportunity to further reduce our debt levels by year end. Mick, Speaker 200:03:18over to you. Thanks, Mitch. Operating strength across our portfolio, continued easing costs and accelerated contributions from the Rochester expansion led to Coeur's strongest quarterly results in over a decade. Beginning with Rochester, the positive trend lines we outlined last quarter showed continued momentum in the Q3. Production of both silver and gold increased by roughly 20% compared to the prior quarter. Speaker 200:03:52The team has been achieving targeted tons placed since July and they continue to focus on dining the infrastructure controls, process fine tuning and industrial hygiene management. We are systematically taking advantage of run time data and down periods to optimize and refine the operation to prepare the line for its long multi decade run going forward. Slide 22 details the excellent progress being made on reducing per ton costs at Rochester. With double digit percentage decreases in mining, processing and G and A highlighted how the scale of the expanded operation is driving down Rochester's cost profile as expected. A number of you on this call saw firsthand in September the scale and power of the circuit in operation. Speaker 200:04:42What we are beginning to see manifest through the circuit is the finesse to complement that raw power. Particle crush size optimization remains the primary focus during the second half of the year. And on that front, the percentage of crushed material reaching the 5 eights target approached 75% during the latter part of the quarter, well within expectations for this point of the year. Our 3 other operations are also on track for a good finish to the year. Palmarejo generated another strong quarter of free cash flow with gold and silver production increasing 8% 14% respectively compared to the Q2. Speaker 200:05:24The team made good strides on a couple of key projects to position the Maine for future success, with the first being the breakthrough and connection of the new Hidalgo portal near the end of the Q3. Following completion of associated development ramps, the Hidalgo access portal is expected to unlock new zones within the Independencia deposit and enhance overall mining flexibility and efficiency. We've also made good early progress on getting after the newly acquired claims from Fresnillo that closed early in the Q3. The concessions adjacent to current mining areas collectively known as the Independencia Sur Block presented the most immediate near term development opportunity. The pace of mapping, drilling and development planning work continues to accelerate and it's important to note that these prospective areas sit completely outside the Franklin Nevada gold stream boundary. Speaker 200:06:21Moving to Kensington, the higher gold price helped drive a $42,000,000 swing back to positive free cash flow in the quarter to $18,000,000 The mine's multiyear underground development and drilling investment continues to progress and remains on track to wrap up by the middle of next year, which is expected to leave Kensington well positioned to deliver sustained free cash flow with greater operational flexibility. Exploration drilling also continues to demonstrate success towards our goal of building up to a 5 year mine life by year end. Finishing up with Wharf, positive reconciliation and timing of Wharf placement led to an extremely strong quarter. Gold production of nearly 34,000 ounces set an all time record high in the Maine's 42 year history, generating quarterly free cash flow of $49,000,000 and bringing the year to date free cash flow total to $75,000,000 We expect the more typical Q4 for Wharf, which is still a very, very good outcome. The 2 new exploration targets at Wharf we introduced last quarter continue to demonstrate strong potential to materially increase mine life and an operation that continues to exceed expectations. Speaker 200:07:40Drilling at the North Foley and Juno targets continued during the quarter from 2 surface drill rigs with recent assays showing good continuity in areas west of the historic Juno pit. Overall, Wharf continues to deliver and show the potential to keep delivering for years to come. With that, I'll pass the call over to Tom. Speaker 300:08:02Thanks, Nick. As discussed on prior calls, the long awaited free cash flow inflection point for Cora arrived this quarter. Higher revenues, lower unit costs and lower CapEx were all expected and delivered. During the Q3, we saw 15% higher metal prices and a 12% decrease in operating cost per ounce to $11.13 per ounce of gold and $15.67 per ounce of silver. These two factors were a powerful one two punch that led to $69,000,000 of free cash flow and $126,000,000 of adjusted EBITDA in the 3rd quarter alone, showing the power of the portfolio. Speaker 300:08:43With Rochester still in the optimizing phase and the addition of last cheap free cash flow, we expect even stronger results in 2025. Kora's free cash flow inflection point is projected to be sustained during the Q4 based on continued higher metals prices and production growth at the higher cost Rochester and Kensington mines. As we have stated consistently, we will be allocating free cash flow to reducing our debt levels, beginning with our revolving credit facility, which sat at $225,000,000 drawn at quarter end, a $50,000,000 reduction from the prior period. As shown on Slide 11, our net debt to EBITDA ratio has plunged below 2 times for the first time in 3 years. This of course does not include the very healthy Silvercrest balance sheet, which has approximately $160,000,000 of cash and bullion as of September 30, 2024. Speaker 300:09:39By mid-twenty 25, we expect to have the revolver fully repaid and could likely be in a position to begin a period of building up cash on the balance sheet. Whether it's to reinvest in high return brownfield exploration, support the future development of Silvertip, repay the $290,000,000 of 5.8th notes or return of capital to shareholders in some form or a combination of all of the above, we will continue to abide by our long stated capital allocation framework and continue to focus on generating returns greater than our cost of capital. Returning briefly to the recently announced definitive agreement to acquire Silvercrest, the short term focus has been on finalizing required regulatory filings. We're actively planning for a smooth integration, so we can hit the ground running upon closing likely in late Q1 2025. I'll now pass the call back Speaker 100:10:33to Mitch. Thanks, Tom. Before moving to the Q and A, I want to quickly highlight Slide 12 that summarizes our top priorities for the remainder of the year with the continued optimization of Rochester, pursuing the closing of the Silvercrest acquisition and planning for the integration of Las Chispas at the top of the list. We look forward to delivering a strong and safe Q4 highlighted by even higher production, another quarter of positive free cash flow and further debt reduction, which should leave us well positioned for a very strong 2025. With that, let's go ahead and open it up for questions. Operator00:11:17We will now begin the question and answer session. The first question comes from Joseph Reagor with ROTH Capital Partners. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:11:54Hey, Mitch and team. Thanks for taking the questions. Speaker 100:11:57Yes. Hey, Joe. Good morning. Speaker 400:11:59Good morning. I guess, first thing on Rochester, and I apologize if you guys touched on this, I joined a couple of minutes late. Is this leach cycle that you guys have modeled internally matching what you're seeing as far as production in the Q3, given that we don't have the exact timing of how the ore was stacked? Speaker 100:12:21Yes. Thanks for the question. I'll start and then Mick you can add to it. In short, it is Joe. As we get that crush size down to the target by the end of the year of 5.8, percent. Speaker 100:12:36Obviously, the recoveries will improve as we do that. But in this period of time where we've gone from kind of focusing on stabilizing things out there and running at a bit of a higher size fraction. The recoveries are obviously lower to start and then they'll improve as we get that crush size down and they have been tracking according to what we would what we've modeled based on those crush sizes. So things are tracking as we expected. Mick, anything you want to add? Speaker 200:13:09Yes. We had a great period of a couple of years with the ex pit to really try and model and upgrade recovery curves. And that gave insight into the larger size fractions all the way down to the same material. And so far, we're seeing that those recoveries are tracking on that recovery curve. As we said earlier in the year, we focused on getting the tonnage up and hitting the tons run rate by the middle of the year. Speaker 200:13:35And that was a larger size fraction. So we're regularly hitting 100,000 tons per day, which is we're really happy, but now we're focused on dialing that in, as Mitch said, to the 5 year size fraction. And we're not quite there yet, but we're heading in the right direction. We're seeing some really good results there, but we're going to see that those recoveries are going to improve over time and we'll be in some momentum as we come towards the end of the year and through into 2025, but overall as planned. Speaker 400:14:04Okay. Fair. And then on the Silvercrest acquisition, what are the remaining hurdles you guys have as you see it to getting this closed? Speaker 100:14:15Yes, really 3, I guess. I don't know if they're hurdles, just steps. Both companies will have shareholder votes around year end. We do have the COPICE approval from Mexico that we expect to get in the Q1, which should then set us up for that late Q1 close. So those are really the 3 biggest hoops that we'll need to jump through between here and closing. Speaker 400:14:49Okay. And then one final thing on the balance sheet. You guys finished the quarter with about $77,000,000 in cash. Is that a good number for us to assume as we're trying to forecast debt repayment that you guys will keep at that level? Do you want to grow it a little bit back towards more traditional levels around $100,000,000 How should we think about that? Speaker 100:15:07Well, my thought is and Tom, you can go after me. But in the first half of next year, at least as we're prioritizing repayment of that revolver, that cash balance will probably stay in that zip code. But then as that once that revolver is fully repaid, and I think, Tom, you mentioned mid year by mid year, then we should start to see some cash start to build, which we're okay with for a little while as we get through the end of next year, have Los Chispas integrated and then we can kind of go from there. Tom, anything to add? No, perfect. Speaker 400:15:51Okay. Thanks. I'll turn it over. Speaker 100:15:53Okay. Thanks a lot, Joe. Operator00:16:10At this time, we have no further questions. This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Mitch Krebs for any closing remarks. Speaker 100:16:23Okay, thanks. Well, hey, we appreciate everyone's time today. I know it's a super busy reporting period today, And we look forward to discussing our Q4 and full year 2024 results with you in February, and we'll be able to give you a good update on the progress on the Silvercrest transaction at that point as well. So until then, have a happy and safe holiday season. Operator00:16:49The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.Read moreRemove AdsPowered by Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallCoeur Mining Q3 202400:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2xRemove Ads Earnings DocumentsSlide DeckPress Release(8-K)Quarterly report(10-Q) Coeur Mining Earnings HeadlinesBrokerages Set Coeur Mining, Inc. (NYSE:CDE) Price Target at $8.10April 17 at 1:39 AM | americanbankingnews.comWhy Newmont, Coeur Mining, and Barrick Gold Stocks Popped TodayApril 11, 2025 | fool.comCrypto’s crashing…but we’re still profitingMost traders are panicking right now. Bitcoin’s dropping. 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There are 5 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Mitch Krebs, President and CEO. Operator00:00:08Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:09Good morning, everyone, and thanks for joining our call today to discuss our Q3 results. Before we start, we want to quickly point out our cautionary language regarding forward looking statements in today's slide deck and refer you to our SEC filings on our website. I'll start off with a few comments starting on Slide 3 before turning the call over to Mick and Tom. We obviously had a very strong quarter, which anticipating. Our strong results were driven by production increases at our 4 operations, higher gold and silver prices and double digit declines in our cost per ounce. Speaker 100:00:55This Goldilocks environment led to double digit quarter over quarter and year over year increases and multi year highs in quarterly revenue, adjusted EBITDA, net income and free cash flow. We applied most of the free cash flow to paying down $50,000,000 of our revolving credit facility. Together with LTM adjusted EBITDA now approaching $300,000,000 we're now seeing our leverage ratios quickly drop as we delever the balance sheet. Tom will go in a bit more detail on our balance sheet plans and priorities in a few minutes. Adding to our momentum and to these multiple converging catalysts was our announcement last month of our agreement to acquire Silvercrest Metals to create a global leader in the silver industry. Speaker 100:01:47The addition of Silvercrest's low cost Los Chispas primary silver operation and its pristine balance sheet will lead to a much larger, stronger company with peer leading expected 2025 production of over 21,000,000 ounces of silver and 432,000 ounces of gold with over $700,000,000 of EBITDA and free cash flow of approximately $350,000,000 Since the announcement on October 3, we've received positive feedback from both Core and Silvercrest shareholders about the combination and for creating a silver industry leader at a time of extremely strong fundamentals for this essential metal. We expect formal shareholder votes to take place around year end and for the transaction to close late in Q1. Looking ahead quickly and highlighting our top priorities, a key focus remains on continuing the progress at Rochester to set ourselves up for what should be a very strong 2025. Rochester achieved its key operational metrics during the Q3 and remains on track to achieve its full year guidance ranges. Mick will provide some additional details on Rochester. Speaker 100:03:05Overall, we've reconfirmed our company wide full year guidance ranges, which implies another strong quarter to end the year and an opportunity to further reduce our debt levels by year end. Mick, Speaker 200:03:18over to you. Thanks, Mitch. Operating strength across our portfolio, continued easing costs and accelerated contributions from the Rochester expansion led to Coeur's strongest quarterly results in over a decade. Beginning with Rochester, the positive trend lines we outlined last quarter showed continued momentum in the Q3. Production of both silver and gold increased by roughly 20% compared to the prior quarter. Speaker 200:03:52The team has been achieving targeted tons placed since July and they continue to focus on dining the infrastructure controls, process fine tuning and industrial hygiene management. We are systematically taking advantage of run time data and down periods to optimize and refine the operation to prepare the line for its long multi decade run going forward. Slide 22 details the excellent progress being made on reducing per ton costs at Rochester. With double digit percentage decreases in mining, processing and G and A highlighted how the scale of the expanded operation is driving down Rochester's cost profile as expected. A number of you on this call saw firsthand in September the scale and power of the circuit in operation. Speaker 200:04:42What we are beginning to see manifest through the circuit is the finesse to complement that raw power. Particle crush size optimization remains the primary focus during the second half of the year. And on that front, the percentage of crushed material reaching the 5 eights target approached 75% during the latter part of the quarter, well within expectations for this point of the year. Our 3 other operations are also on track for a good finish to the year. Palmarejo generated another strong quarter of free cash flow with gold and silver production increasing 8% 14% respectively compared to the Q2. Speaker 200:05:24The team made good strides on a couple of key projects to position the Maine for future success, with the first being the breakthrough and connection of the new Hidalgo portal near the end of the Q3. Following completion of associated development ramps, the Hidalgo access portal is expected to unlock new zones within the Independencia deposit and enhance overall mining flexibility and efficiency. We've also made good early progress on getting after the newly acquired claims from Fresnillo that closed early in the Q3. The concessions adjacent to current mining areas collectively known as the Independencia Sur Block presented the most immediate near term development opportunity. The pace of mapping, drilling and development planning work continues to accelerate and it's important to note that these prospective areas sit completely outside the Franklin Nevada gold stream boundary. Speaker 200:06:21Moving to Kensington, the higher gold price helped drive a $42,000,000 swing back to positive free cash flow in the quarter to $18,000,000 The mine's multiyear underground development and drilling investment continues to progress and remains on track to wrap up by the middle of next year, which is expected to leave Kensington well positioned to deliver sustained free cash flow with greater operational flexibility. Exploration drilling also continues to demonstrate success towards our goal of building up to a 5 year mine life by year end. Finishing up with Wharf, positive reconciliation and timing of Wharf placement led to an extremely strong quarter. Gold production of nearly 34,000 ounces set an all time record high in the Maine's 42 year history, generating quarterly free cash flow of $49,000,000 and bringing the year to date free cash flow total to $75,000,000 We expect the more typical Q4 for Wharf, which is still a very, very good outcome. The 2 new exploration targets at Wharf we introduced last quarter continue to demonstrate strong potential to materially increase mine life and an operation that continues to exceed expectations. Speaker 200:07:40Drilling at the North Foley and Juno targets continued during the quarter from 2 surface drill rigs with recent assays showing good continuity in areas west of the historic Juno pit. Overall, Wharf continues to deliver and show the potential to keep delivering for years to come. With that, I'll pass the call over to Tom. Speaker 300:08:02Thanks, Nick. As discussed on prior calls, the long awaited free cash flow inflection point for Cora arrived this quarter. Higher revenues, lower unit costs and lower CapEx were all expected and delivered. During the Q3, we saw 15% higher metal prices and a 12% decrease in operating cost per ounce to $11.13 per ounce of gold and $15.67 per ounce of silver. These two factors were a powerful one two punch that led to $69,000,000 of free cash flow and $126,000,000 of adjusted EBITDA in the 3rd quarter alone, showing the power of the portfolio. Speaker 300:08:43With Rochester still in the optimizing phase and the addition of last cheap free cash flow, we expect even stronger results in 2025. Kora's free cash flow inflection point is projected to be sustained during the Q4 based on continued higher metals prices and production growth at the higher cost Rochester and Kensington mines. As we have stated consistently, we will be allocating free cash flow to reducing our debt levels, beginning with our revolving credit facility, which sat at $225,000,000 drawn at quarter end, a $50,000,000 reduction from the prior period. As shown on Slide 11, our net debt to EBITDA ratio has plunged below 2 times for the first time in 3 years. This of course does not include the very healthy Silvercrest balance sheet, which has approximately $160,000,000 of cash and bullion as of September 30, 2024. Speaker 300:09:39By mid-twenty 25, we expect to have the revolver fully repaid and could likely be in a position to begin a period of building up cash on the balance sheet. Whether it's to reinvest in high return brownfield exploration, support the future development of Silvertip, repay the $290,000,000 of 5.8th notes or return of capital to shareholders in some form or a combination of all of the above, we will continue to abide by our long stated capital allocation framework and continue to focus on generating returns greater than our cost of capital. Returning briefly to the recently announced definitive agreement to acquire Silvercrest, the short term focus has been on finalizing required regulatory filings. We're actively planning for a smooth integration, so we can hit the ground running upon closing likely in late Q1 2025. I'll now pass the call back Speaker 100:10:33to Mitch. Thanks, Tom. Before moving to the Q and A, I want to quickly highlight Slide 12 that summarizes our top priorities for the remainder of the year with the continued optimization of Rochester, pursuing the closing of the Silvercrest acquisition and planning for the integration of Las Chispas at the top of the list. We look forward to delivering a strong and safe Q4 highlighted by even higher production, another quarter of positive free cash flow and further debt reduction, which should leave us well positioned for a very strong 2025. With that, let's go ahead and open it up for questions. Operator00:11:17We will now begin the question and answer session. The first question comes from Joseph Reagor with ROTH Capital Partners. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:11:54Hey, Mitch and team. Thanks for taking the questions. Speaker 100:11:57Yes. Hey, Joe. Good morning. Speaker 400:11:59Good morning. I guess, first thing on Rochester, and I apologize if you guys touched on this, I joined a couple of minutes late. Is this leach cycle that you guys have modeled internally matching what you're seeing as far as production in the Q3, given that we don't have the exact timing of how the ore was stacked? Speaker 100:12:21Yes. Thanks for the question. I'll start and then Mick you can add to it. In short, it is Joe. As we get that crush size down to the target by the end of the year of 5.8, percent. Speaker 100:12:36Obviously, the recoveries will improve as we do that. But in this period of time where we've gone from kind of focusing on stabilizing things out there and running at a bit of a higher size fraction. The recoveries are obviously lower to start and then they'll improve as we get that crush size down and they have been tracking according to what we would what we've modeled based on those crush sizes. So things are tracking as we expected. Mick, anything you want to add? Speaker 200:13:09Yes. We had a great period of a couple of years with the ex pit to really try and model and upgrade recovery curves. And that gave insight into the larger size fractions all the way down to the same material. And so far, we're seeing that those recoveries are tracking on that recovery curve. As we said earlier in the year, we focused on getting the tonnage up and hitting the tons run rate by the middle of the year. Speaker 200:13:35And that was a larger size fraction. So we're regularly hitting 100,000 tons per day, which is we're really happy, but now we're focused on dialing that in, as Mitch said, to the 5 year size fraction. And we're not quite there yet, but we're heading in the right direction. We're seeing some really good results there, but we're going to see that those recoveries are going to improve over time and we'll be in some momentum as we come towards the end of the year and through into 2025, but overall as planned. Speaker 400:14:04Okay. Fair. And then on the Silvercrest acquisition, what are the remaining hurdles you guys have as you see it to getting this closed? Speaker 100:14:15Yes, really 3, I guess. I don't know if they're hurdles, just steps. Both companies will have shareholder votes around year end. We do have the COPICE approval from Mexico that we expect to get in the Q1, which should then set us up for that late Q1 close. So those are really the 3 biggest hoops that we'll need to jump through between here and closing. Speaker 400:14:49Okay. And then one final thing on the balance sheet. You guys finished the quarter with about $77,000,000 in cash. Is that a good number for us to assume as we're trying to forecast debt repayment that you guys will keep at that level? Do you want to grow it a little bit back towards more traditional levels around $100,000,000 How should we think about that? Speaker 100:15:07Well, my thought is and Tom, you can go after me. But in the first half of next year, at least as we're prioritizing repayment of that revolver, that cash balance will probably stay in that zip code. But then as that once that revolver is fully repaid, and I think, Tom, you mentioned mid year by mid year, then we should start to see some cash start to build, which we're okay with for a little while as we get through the end of next year, have Los Chispas integrated and then we can kind of go from there. Tom, anything to add? No, perfect. Speaker 400:15:51Okay. Thanks. I'll turn it over. Speaker 100:15:53Okay. Thanks a lot, Joe. Operator00:16:10At this time, we have no further questions. This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Mitch Krebs for any closing remarks. Speaker 100:16:23Okay, thanks. Well, hey, we appreciate everyone's time today. I know it's a super busy reporting period today, And we look forward to discussing our Q4 and full year 2024 results with you in February, and we'll be able to give you a good update on the progress on the Silvercrest transaction at that point as well. So until then, have a happy and safe holiday season. Operator00:16:49The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.Read moreRemove AdsPowered by