Hamilton Lane Q2 2025 Earnings Call Transcript

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November 6, 2024

There are 8 speakers on the call.

Operator

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Hamilton Lane Fiscal Second Quarter Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all lines are in listen only mode. Following the presentation, we will conduct a question and answer session. This call is being recorded on Wednesday, November 6, 2024. I would now like to turn the conference over to Mr.

Operator

John Ulz, Head of Shareholder. Please go ahead.

Speaker 1

Thank you, Nicole. Good morning, and welcome to the Hamilton Lane Q2 fiscal 2025 earnings call. Today, I will be joined by Eric Hirsch, Co Chief Executive Officer and Jeff Armbruster, Chief Financial Officer. Earlier this morning, we issued a press release and slide presentation, which are available on our website. Before we discuss the quarter's results, we want to remind you that we will be making forward looking statements.

Speaker 1

Forward looking statements discuss our current expectations and projections relating to our financial position, results of operations, plans, objectives, future performance and business. These forward looking statements do not guarantee future events or performance and are subject to risks and uncertainties that may cause our actual results to differ materially from those projected. For a discussion of these risks, please review the cautionary statements and risk factors included in the Hamilton Lane fiscal 2024 10 ks and subsequent reports we file with the SEC. These forward looking statements are made only as of today and except as required, we undertake no obligation to update or revise any of them. We will be also referring to non GAAP measures that we view as important in assessing the performance of our business.

Speaker 1

Reconciliation of those non GAAP measures to GAAP can be found in the earnings presentation materials made available on the Shareholder section of the Hamilton Lane website. Our detailed financial results will be made available when our 10 Q is filed. Please note that nothing on this call represents an offer to sell or a solicitation of an offer to purchase interest in any of Hamilton Lane's products. Let's start with the highlights. Year to date through the Q2 of fiscal 2025, our management and advisory fee revenue grew by 21%, while our fee related earnings also grew by 21% versus the prior year period.

Speaker 1

This translated into GAAP EPS of $2.85 based on $114,000,000 of GAAP net income and non GAAP EPS of $2.58 based on $140,000,000 of adjusted net income. We have also declared a dividend of $0.49 per share this quarter, which keeps us on track for the 10% increase over last fiscal year, equating to the targeted $1.96 per share for fiscal year 2025. With that, I'll now turn the call over to Eric.

Speaker 2

Thank you, John, and good morning, everyone. Before I go into detail on the quarter's results, I want to acknowledge a milestone that occurred for Hamilton Lane during the quarter. On September 23, HLNE was officially added to the S and P MidCap 400 Index. Throughout our 33 year history, we've had a singular focus of delivering results for our clients, recognizing that doing that well will also benefit our shareholders and employees. This simple but effective strategy continues to serve us well and being included in the S and P four 100 marks another great achievement for our firm.

Speaker 2

Both Juan and I are extremely grateful and proud of all the dedication that each Hamilton Lane professional brings to work every day in helping to serve our clients and to grow our business. Now let's move on to the results from the quarter and I'll start with our total asset footprint. This stood at $947,000,000,000 and represents an 11% increase to our footprint year over year. AUM stood at $131,000,000,000 at quarter end and grew $12,000,000,000 or 10% compared to the prior year period. The growth came from both our specialized funds and customized separate accounts.

Speaker 2

AUA was up $81,000,000,000 or 11% year over year, primarily the result of market value growth and the addition of technology solution and back office mandates. Turning now to fee earning AUM. The story here continues to be the same. Strong total growth largely driven by our specialized fund platform where we are adding new product lines and expanding existing ones. Our total fee earning AUM stood at approximately $70,000,000,000 and grew $8,300,000,000 or 14% relative to the prior year period.

Speaker 2

Now taken separately, dollars 3,100,000,000 of net fee earning AUM came from our customized separate accounts and over the same period, dollars 5,200,000,000 came from our specialized funds. As we detailed in our Shareholder Day, our blended fee rate across the platform has been steadily increasing year over year. This stems from the continuing shift in the mix of our fee earning AUM towards higher fee rate specialized funds, most notably our evergreen products, where growth remains impressive. When we went public in 2017, our blended fee rate was 57 basis points. Today, it stands at over 61 60 basis points excluding the impact from retro fees.

Speaker 2

Moving now to additional detail on our customized separate accounts. Fee earning AUM here stood at $39,400,000,000 and grew 9% year over year. We continue to see the growth coming from clients across type, mandate size and geographic location. As we noted on our last call, we continue to increasingly see separate account mandates include meaningful allocations to private market transactions, including secondaries and direct equity and credit investments. For our separate accounts, when possible, those allocations are fulfilled with commitments to our specialized funds focused on those specific transaction types.

Speaker 2

This results in the AUM and management fees being captured within those specific funds, not in the separate account category. While optically, this results in more modest dollar growth in separate account fee earning AUM, we are simply capturing those separate account dollars in higher fee rate specialized funds. Let's move now to our specialized funds where momentum continues to be strong. At quarter end, fee earning AUM here stood at $30,400,000,000 Over the past 12 months, we achieved positive net inflows of $5,200,000,000 representing an increase of 21% relative to the prior year period. This growth stemmed from additional closes for funds in market, robust investment activity and continued expansion of our Evergreen platform.

Speaker 2

Moving on to fundraising activity during the quarter and I'll begin here with our strategic opportunities fund, which is our annual direct credit fund targeting the institutional LP. As a refresher, the series of funds is effectively always in market as we raise and deploy the capital with short investment periods and charge management fees on net invested capital. After the quarter, we held additional closes that totaled $60,000,000 which brought the total raise for the series to nearly $210,000,000 Our strategic opportunities fund remains a key component of our overall private credit platform that includes our discretionary separate accounts and our evergreen platform. If you total our 8 prior funds, we have raised nearly $5,000,000,000 for this program going back to 2015. Moving now to our venture product.

Speaker 2

As a reminder, we have been actively investing in the venture space since 1996, primarily through our separate account and advisory businesses. This new product combines our long standing and successful track record with our strong access to top performing managers in order to provide investors with a one stop shop to the venture space, including primary, secondary and co investment transactions. I'm pleased to announce that through the most recent closing on November 5, we've raised nearly $500,000,000 of LP commitments for this 1st venture focused fund and we'll look to finalize fundraising in the 1st calendar quarter of 2025. We are proud of the successful fundraise and appreciate the support from investors. Let's move now to our impact product.

Speaker 2

Our impact strategy seeks to directly invest in companies with the goal of generating returns alongside a measurable environmental and or social impact. Our 2 prior funds in this strategy raised nearly $95,000,000 $370,000,000 respectively. On October 16, we held the 1st close for our 3rd vintage in this strategy with nearly $110,000,000 of LP commitments. Like all of our specialized fund strategies, our goal is to grow and scale each product in a tactical and methodical manner and we are pleased with the growth of the impact product thus far and look forward to providing you updates with this latest fundraise. Now on to our evergreen funds.

Speaker 2

As of September 30, total AUM across our 3 existing offerings stood at nearly $8,400,000,000 with the platform having grown nearly 75% over the last 12 months. Monthly net inflows remained strong as we averaged over $220,000,000 for the 3rd calendar quarter of 2024. During our Shareholder Day in June, we highlighted the opportunity we believe is in front of us related to continued growth of both our existing evergreen product offerings and our commitment to bring new products to market. On October 8, we announced the launch of our newest infrastructure evergreen products, which now complement our diversified private markets and credit offerings. These newly launched infrastructure evergreen products highlight our ability to execute on our strategic vision and we remain active in the creation of additional new offerings.

Speaker 2

Lastly, a key component to our ability to successfully launch new evergreen products is the ability to seed these launches with balance sheet capital. Recently, we closed on a $100,000,000 senior notes offering. The offering was well received in the market and resulted in us both diversifying our funding sources and expanding our capital markets access. We've already put some of this capital to work with our infrastructure evergreen funds and our overall goal in evergreen remains simple, continue to deliver high quality products to the market to ensure investors have access to the benefits of this asset class. Now Before I turn the call over to Jeff to discuss the financials, I want to take a quick moment and highlight a recent announcement regarding our newest strategic technology partnership with Northern Trust, who is a leading provider of wealth management, asset servicing, asset management and banking services to both institutional and individual investors.

Speaker 2

Northern Trust will now offer its clients access to our private markets data analytics and tools with a key component of this partnership centering around providing Northern Trust institutional clients with access to Cobalt, our proprietary private markets data and analytics software system. The combination of Cobalt and Northern Trust suite of front office solutions results in a powerful and comprehensive front to back solution for their clients. This strategic agreement represents yet another example of our unique ability to partner with the world's leading financial institutions and deliver our private markets expertise, access and capabilities in a mutually beneficial arrangement. These unique partnerships help accomplish our goal of increased brand awareness through the integration of our advanced suite of technology and data solutions to an increasingly growing population of both institutional and non institutional private market investors. We are excited to embark on this journey with Northern Trust.

Speaker 2

And with that, I'll now pass the call to Jeff who will cover the financials.

Speaker 3

Thank you, Eric and good morning everyone. Year to date for fiscal 2025, we've achieved strong growth in our business with management and advisory fees up 21% versus the prior year period. Our specialized funds revenue increased by $40,000,000 or 33% compared to the prior year period. This was driven primarily by a 3.6 $1,000,000,000 increase to fee earning AUM in our Evergreen platform and $2,500,000,000 raised in our latest secondary fund over the last 12 months. Retro fees for the fiscal year were 20.7 $1,000,000 primarily stemming from the final close of our most recent secondary fund versus $8,800,000 from that same fund that held closes in the prior year period.

Speaker 3

As a reminder, investors that come into later closes during a fundraise pay retroactive fees dating back to the fund's 1st close. For the remainder of fiscal year 2025, our current direct equity fund in market will be the primary driver of quarterly retro fees now that our secondary fund has finished fundraising. Our latest secondary fund represented our largest institutional fundraise and thus generated the largest amount of retro fees in our history during the fiscal year 2024 and the Q1 of fiscal 2025. This is expected to have some impact on the year over year specialized funds revenue growth comparison going forward. Moving on to customized separate accounts, revenue increased $4,500,000 or 7% compared to the prior year period due to the addition of new accounts, re ups from existing clients and continued investment activity.

Speaker 3

Revenue from our reporting, monitoring, data and analytics offerings increased by $2,300,000 compared to the prior year period. Lastly, the final component of our revenue is incentive fees. Year to date incentive fees totaled $87,000,000 and are up 133% relative to the prior year period. Let's now turn to our unrealized carry balance. The balance is up 9% from the prior year period while having recognized $151,600,000 of incentive fees during the last 12 months.

Speaker 3

The unrealized carry balance now stands at approximately $1,300,000,000 Moving to expenses. Total expenses year to date increased $48,600,000 compared with the prior year period. Total compensation and benefits increased by $43,500,000 driven primarily by higher compensation associated with increased headcount and incentive fee related compensation relative to the prior year period. G and A increased $5,100,000 driven primarily by revenue related expenses, including the 3rd party commissions related to our U. S.

Speaker 3

Evergreen product being offered on wirehouses that we've discussed on prior calls. Fee related earnings or FRE were up 21% relative to the prior year period as a result of the management fee and fee earning AUM growth discussed earlier. FRE margin for the quarter came in at 43%. Fiscal 2025 year to date FRE margin also came in at 43%. We managed our expenses in line with overall firm growth and aim to continue investing in supporting growth initiatives, while also maintaining healthy management fee profitability.

Speaker 3

Before moving on, I'd like to take a moment to provide some details related to our performance awards. We strongly believe in equity alignment for our leadership team and have granted performance awards to align incentives. Each performance award is divided into 3 tranches and each tranche includes 2 vesting conditions, a required 5 year service period following the grant date and price target thresholds for our stock. The thresholds are $150, $190 $2.30 per share. The 1st price target threshold has been met and thus the 1st tranche will vest at the end of the service period.

Speaker 3

The potential dilution if all tranches of the performance awards vest would be approximately 2% of our current fully diluted outstanding shares. I'll wrap up now with some commentary on our balance sheet. Our largest asset continues to be our investments alongside our clients in our customized separate accounts and specialized funds. Over the long term, we view these investments as an important component of our continued growth and we'll continue to invest our balance sheet capital alongside our clients. With regard to our liabilities, as Eric mentioned earlier, we recently issued $100,000,000 of senior notes that are scheduled to mature on October 15, 2029.

Speaker 3

The interest rates on the notes is fixed at 5.28% and will be paid semiannually. Throughout our history, we've strategically utilized the firm's balance sheet and capital in support of our business. The strength of our balance sheet and our ability to invest and support continued growth through initiatives represents a key component of our strategic vision. Today, the largest asset on the firm's balance sheet is our GP commitments alongside our clients and seed investments into recently launched products, something we are extremely proud of. We aim to continue supporting these growth initiatives and we have now secured new capital that will allow for this important work to continue while maintaining a conservative leverage profile.

Speaker 3

With that, we will now open up the call for questions.

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we will now begin the question and answer Our first question will be coming from Ken Worthington from JPMorgan.

Speaker 4

Hi, good morning. Thanks for taking the question. There is a number of brokers that are looking to offer alternative products to their clients for the first time. Can you talk about the opportunities ahead for you in these new distribution channels? And can you sort of size what you see relative to the distribution you brought on say over the last 12 months or so?

Speaker 2

Ken, thanks for the question. It's Eric. I'll take that. I think if we step back, you're asking a pretty macro question and so I'll give you a macro response. I think at the widest aperture of the lens, what you see is a world where the vast majority of mass affluent individuals don't have any exposure to the private markets.

Speaker 2

And so I think what we're really beginning to see here is a change where you'll begin to see individual investors begin to have portfolios that more likely mirror institutional investors. That is going to be a change that is going to take place over a long period of time. And so I continue to use the analogy of this is we're running a marathon, not a sprint here. And so I think when you look at the amount of wealth held in individuals hands globally, we're talking something that's in the many, many, many 1,000,000,000,000 of dollars. And so if we think about just moving 1% of that or 3% of that or eventually 10% or 15% of that into the private markets, again, more akin to what we see in the institutional world, talking about a massive amount of capital that will transform our industry as well as our business and that will take place over a long time period.

Speaker 2

So we think we're at a great starting point for what is going to be a very long and exciting journey.

Speaker 4

Maybe as a follow-up, is more being asked of you from these new platforms as they come online versus say the wirehouses or the RIAs that have come online already? Or is what Hamilton Lane is being asked of essentially the same? Like are you being asked to do more on the client servicing and client management in the future versus what you've done in the past?

Speaker 2

So it's Eric. The answer is no. I think what people are looking for is consistent regardless of the platform that they're coming through. People want education. They want transparency around the asset class and they want an easily accessible product that has good performance.

Speaker 2

And so I think whether that's a customer coming through a wire or a customer coming from an individual RIA, that's what they're looking for. And I think one of the reasons why we've been so successful is this is a firm that has an incredibly strong client service DNA and understands how to service customers. And we're really good at the education piece because of our data and technology. And I think that's helping to sort of stand us apart.

Speaker 4

Okay, great. Thank you.

Operator

Your next question will be coming from Alex Blostein from Goldman Sachs.

Speaker 5

Hey, Eric and everybody, good morning. You guys have had lots of success on the specialized funds over the last couple of quarters with the secondary business obviously coming in strongly last quarter. But maybe help us with kind of anything on the come as you look at the lineup of specialist funds outside of the kind of evergreen retail oriented vehicles, call it, over the next 12 months to 18 months in terms of what's coming up?

Speaker 2

Sure, Alex. It's Eric. So I think as I mentioned, this is going to be about putting a variety of products in market. And so that's what we are doing right now. So direct equity of what we have is sort of poised to be the largest of what's currently in market.

Speaker 2

Impact growing nicely again, that was a business where when we sort of did our first one and it was sub $100,000,000 I think there was some questions of why bother. And our answer was, look, we have to start and the goal is to start and have success and then scale and we're doing that. And so that is growing. I think we're really happy to finally get a venture product in market that we think has a lot of market appeal. And so coming out of the gate with that at sort of an initial fund of $500,000,000 plus that feels good.

Speaker 2

So I think we have a lot of products in market, a lot of closings that are kind of coming up across the board and we just have a lot of work ahead of us to make sure we do these all successfully.

Speaker 5

I got you. Great. And then a quick clarification question. I heard your comments around equity awards. Can you just refresh us on what the total equity based comp number is going to look like from here and just the trajectory of stock based compensation, I guess, beyond this fiscal year?

Speaker 3

Yes. We're looking at this is Jeff. We're looking at $30,000,000 per year and the awards are structured as a 5 year award. So that's the time horizon that we're thinking about.

Speaker 5

Got it. Okay, great. Thanks so much.

Operator

Next is from Michael Cyprys from Morgan Stanley.

Speaker 6

Hey, good morning. Thanks for taking the question. Maybe just given the change in administration here in D. C. And the election here, just curious if you see that impacting potentially helping private markets unlock access to retirement accounts.

Speaker 6

Maybe just remind us what hurdles do you see? How might those be overcome potentially with the change in administration here? And how is Hamilton Lane positioning to access the retirement space? Thanks.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Mike. It's Eric. So I think like everyone, we're sort of digesting this morning and doing it amidst the earnings day. So timing perhaps a little suboptimal. I think my macro reaction to this would be, if we're thinking about retirement, obviously, a lot of the capital that we're pulling in for Evergreen now is retirement capital.

Speaker 2

It's just not housed in a 401 vehicle. So I think to your question, what we're really talking about is whether we see the 401 market opening up. There are, as you know, sort of a multitude of regulatory changes that will need to alter in order for that to happen. I have no idea as we sit here today, whether that's going to be a priority of this administration or not. What I can say is to the extent that the regs alter and evergreen like products or inclusion in target date funds with a private market allocation becomes a reality.

Speaker 2

I think what that market is looking for is exactly the same as what we're already experiencing in our current evergreen environment, which is good trusted brand, good access, good performance, good product knowledge. And so if that market alters, we feel like we're very, very well positioned to participate there in a meaningful way.

Speaker 6

Maybe if I could just follow-up, just curious what specific changes you think would need to be to occur in order to help sort of facilitate that? And just anything practically, we hear oftentimes color from about Record Keeper system maybe not being able to accommodate. Just curious how you see that and how you might be able to help move that ball forward over time?

Speaker 2

Yes. I think one, I'm not sure that will be a driver of any of the change. But if you think about how 401s operate today, one, they're freely tradable. And so at a minimum, you're going to need to address sort of the valuation component of this. And then the second part is right now there are rules in place for a variety of fund vehicles that have to do with how much kind of potentially illiquid assets or less liquid assets can be included.

Speaker 2

So I think there is both legal changes, but there's a lot of just practical aspects of what putting an asset that today is not sort of mark to market, second by second into an environment where people are accustomed to having all liquid, all marked and all market driven valuations. So I think the hurdles are real and it's why we still today have been talking about whether or not we will see private markets in 401s the last couple of decades and the answer has continued to remain no.

Speaker 5

Great. Thank you.

Operator

Next in line will be coming from Mike Brown from Wells Cargo Securities.

Speaker 1

Great. Good morning. I wanted to dive into the partnership with Northern Trust. Can you just expand a little more on that, Eric? How will Northern clients utilize Cobalt?

Speaker 1

Can you maybe provide some examples there? And how do you kind of monetize that partnership? And then maybe just a follow on there, how will are there is there an opportunity to continue to expand with other financial institutions? And then is there an opportunity to actually expand into the wealth side at the Northern Trust as well? Thank you.

Speaker 2

Yes, Mike. Eric, thanks for the question. I think if we sort of again think about what Northern's institutional customer is dealing with and I don't think there's anything unique about their individual or institutional customer is that they have a portion of their assets in the private markets. And is that we sort of see growing across institutional customer bases as that proportion of assets in the private markets gets bigger, your desire to analyze it and have it benchmarked and look at risk factors and think about cash flow forecasting, all of that becomes very necessary and desirable. And then if you sort of think about what is Cobalt, that is what Cobalt is doing.

Speaker 2

It's a data and analytic software system that allows people to import, upload their portfolio of private market holdings and do benchmarking, comp comparisons, cash flow forecasting, public market equivalent calculations, etcetera. And so Northern is essentially plugging our SaaS system into their current system to kind of give, as I said, that sort of front to back solution for their customer base. So we're excited. We're excited, I think, largely because in Northern, you have an incredibly blue chip organization that ran in a very rigorous process looking at what private market systems were out there. Obviously, there are choices to be made and they made the choice in selecting us.

Speaker 2

We're very proud of that. We're excited about this from a brand enhancement standpoint, as well as obviously some revenue generation. And certainly our goal is to make sure that we do the best possible job we can with Northern and that ultimately have that usage expand across not only institutional investors, but also individual investors. And to your second point, yes, we see this as a chance to have other partnerships across the market because we believe that in Cobalt, we have built the market leading private market analytics software system. And I think the market is recognizing that.

Speaker 1

Okay, great. Thank you for all that color. As a follow-up question on the specialized fund side, obviously, growth has been very impressive there. This quarter, the fee rate excluding the retro fees looks like it declined quarter over quarter. It looks like mainly on the institutional side.

Speaker 1

Anything to point there out there? And as we think about that go forward, is this quarter the right jumping off point? Thank you.

Speaker 2

So it's Eric again. I'll stick with that. I think this is just simply noise in the numbers. The fee rates on our specialized funds are not altering. And so again, just depending on retro closing timings and what is just happening there, you're going to see that bounce quarter to quarter.

Speaker 2

Where we are encouraging and I will do so here to have people look at this year over year because that will take out the noise. And as we noted, if you sort of look at the year over year and look at that trend line, it has continued to be an up into the right. Quarter to quarter, you're going to see some volatility. But year over year, I think you see what the actual pattern is.

Speaker 1

Okay, great. Thank you for that clarification.

Operator

Our last question will be coming from Alain Hall from KBW.

Speaker 7

Great. Thanks for taking my question. Maybe just a follow-up on the Evergreen Products platform. Now it's still early days and a lot of potential growth, but I was wondering if you could kind of talk to the uptake you're seeing in the channel with clients investing in multiple products. And maybe a part of that, are you seeing more competition with products that are maybe more diversified across different asset classes?

Speaker 7

I know you part of the value add to your offering is the diversity across different managers, but be great to just hear if you're seeing any change in appetite as it relates to single asset class products versus multi asset class products? Thank you.

Speaker 2

Thanks for the question. It's Eric. So our visibility is going to be somewhat limited. We're going to know whether in some cases whether we are getting clients in multiple Hamilton Lane products, which we are, but we wouldn't necessarily know whether they are doing a Hamilton Lane product and a product of another service provider. We wouldn't necessarily have that visibility.

Speaker 2

What we can what I can say to you kind of anecdotally and sort of through again a lot of our interactions is that the appeal of our sort of diversified flagship funds is just that. They're a great anchor product to put down to give people kind of instant exposure across industry, across size of business, across manager. And so that has been a nice anchor tool. And then it allows the financial advisor and customer to decide whether they want to put an additional overweight in any particular area, whether that might be infrastructure or credit or something of the like. And so that's sort of how we're positioned today.

Speaker 2

Yes, there is competition. Yes, I am sure there's going to be increased competition, but that's the reality of a growing attractive marketplace. And we sort of see that we're well positioned and I think the numbers really speak to that.

Speaker 7

Thanks for the color.

Speaker 1

Nicole, are there any more questions?

Operator

There are no further questions at this time. I'd now like to turn the call over to Mr. Eric Kirch, Co CEO, for final closing comments.

Speaker 2

Again, much appreciate the time. I suspect a lot of you like us are a little tired after spending a lot of time up last night watching too much television. So we appreciate the time. We appreciate the support. Have a great day.

Operator

Goodbye.

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