VSE Q3 2024 Earnings Call Transcript

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November 6, 2024

There are 9 speakers on the call.

Operator

Good day, and welcome to the VSC Corporation Third Quarter 20 24 Results Conference Call. All participants will be in listen only mode.

Operator

Please note this event is being recorded. I'd now like to turn the conference over to Michael Perlman, Vice President, Investor Relations and Treasury. Please go ahead.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Welcome to VSE Corporation's Q3 2024 results conference call. We will begin with remarks from John Cuomo, President and CEO, followed by a financial update from Adam Cohen, our Chief Financial Officer. The presentation we are sharing today is on our website, and we encourage you to follow along accordingly. Today's discussion contains forward looking statements about future business and financial expectations.

Speaker 1

Actual results may differ significantly from those projected in today's forward looking statements due to various risks and uncertainties, including those described in our periodic reports filed with the SEC. Except as required by law, we undertake no obligation to update our forward looking statements. We are using non GAAP financial measures in our presentation. Where available, the appropriate GAAP financial reconciliations are incorporated into our presentation and posted on our website. All percentages in today's discussion refer to year over year progress, except where noted.

Speaker 1

At the conclusion of our prepared remarks, we will open the line for questions. With that, I'd like to turn the call over to John.

Speaker 2

Good morning. Thank you, Michael, and thank you for being a part of today's Q3 conference call. This morning, I would like to first officially welcome Adam, our new Chief Financial Officer to his first VSE earnings call. Adam joined VSE in early September and has already made a significant impact providing valuable support for the recently completed equity raise and the negotiation and signing of the Kellstrom acquisition. Adam, it's great to have you as my partner and welcome to the team.

Speaker 2

I'd like to begin my prepared remarks by discussing the current market environment for our Aviation segment, followed by an update on our progress to date on our 2024 strategic priorities. The Aviation segment now supports more than 70% of total company revenues. Those revenues are derived from both the commercial and business and general aviation aftermarkets. In the Q3 of 2024, global demand in the commercial aerospace aftermarket remained at near record levels, driven by high passenger traffic. The market is navigating declining OEM production rates and ongoing supply chain disruptions, which continue to hinder the availability of new aircraft.

Speaker 2

The shortage of new aircraft is a significant obstacle for airlines looking to increase capacity and retire less efficient older aircraft. As a result, airlines are extending the operational life of existing fleets, which continue to fuel demand for aftermarket parts and maintenance services. The business in general aviation aftermarket is also operating near historic highs and has entered a period of stability compared to previous cycles. Private air travel sentiment remains robust. In summary, we expect strong demand in the commercial aftermarket with near double digit revenue growth to continue into 2025, supported by high passenger volumes, OEM production challenges and an aging global fleet.

Speaker 2

The outlook for Business and General Aviation also remains positive with more stable low to mid single digit growth into 2025. Let's now move to Slide 3, where I'll provide an update on our strategic priorities. Let's begin with our recently announced acquisition of Calstrom Aerospace. Last month, we announced that we entered into a definitive agreement to acquire Calstrom Aerospace, a leading full service after Kallstrom Aerospace, a leading full service aftermarket solutions provider of value added distribution and technical services for the commercial aftermarket. Kallstrom is a strong strategic fit and aligned with VSE's core strategic focus areas.

Speaker 2

1st, Kaelstrom increases VSE Aviation's customer base and market exposure to the commercial aerospace aftermarket with a focus on engines. 2nd, Kaelstrom expands our distribution products and aftermarket service offerings. 3rd, Kaelstrom aligns with BSE's core OEM centric strategy with over 95% of Kaelstrom distribution revenue being generated from exclusive long term relationships with marquee aerospace OEMs. 4th, Kaelstrom expands our international reach. Kaelstrom operates across 75 countries and approximately half of revenue is generated outside of North America.

Speaker 2

And finally, the acquisition presents significant synergies with a planned integration. Kelsarm generated approximately $175,000,000 of revenue and approximately $20,000,000 of adjusted EBITDA for the trailing 12 month period ended September 2024. We expect to generate run rate synergies of approximately $4,000,000 within 18 months of close and are confident that we will be able to deliver greater than 15% EBITDA margins for the business as we integrate and optimize the businesses together. The total consideration for the acquisition is $200,000,000 comprised of $185,000,000 in cash and approximately $15,000,000 of common shares of the company, subject to working capital adjustments. The acquisition is expected to close in December.

Speaker 2

I would now like to provide an update on our 2024 strategic priorities for our 2 segments beginning with Aviation. Our European distribution expansion initially supported by the Pratt and Whitney Canada Europe, Middle East and Africa aftermarket product support program is ahead of schedule and remains on pace to reach a full year run rate by the end of Q4. We have begun expanding our product line offerings in Europe with plans to support additional product lines in the near future. Next, the financial performance and implementation of our OEM licensed fuel control manufacturing program continues to outpace expectations. The implementation of the manufacturing capabilities supporting the launch of this new program are expected to continue into 2025.

Speaker 2

The integration of the Detzer acquisition, Detzer acquisition, U. S. Distribution business, which included integrating systems, processes, organization and branding was completed in the Q3. Supporting this integration, we launched a new e commerce platform, shop.vscaviation.com, where all legacy DESSER products, including tires, retreads, tubes and batteries are now available for purchase. Finally, following the acquisition of Turbine Controls in April 2024, we remain focused on adding incremental capacity and increasing our scope with existing OEM partners before integrating the business.

Speaker 2

The performance for this business remains well ahead of our expectations. Moving now to our fleet segment. During the Q3, the United States Postal Service completed the implementation of its new fleet management information system with all 307 vehicle maintenance facilities now live. Following this system implementation and beginning this quarter, we expect to see a gradual increase of repair activity and subsequently an increase in the usage of our parts and we remain committed to supporting the USPS through this period of transition. Within our commercial sales channel, we are focused on scaling our e commerce fulfillment facility, diversifying our customer and supplier base and adding new products and brands to our portfolio.

Speaker 2

Fleet segment strategic review remains in process and we will provide an update in the near future as the USPS revenue continues to stabilize. Corporate level, we completed a very successful following offering of approximately 2,000,000 shares at $87 per share in October 2024. The net proceeds from the offering will be used to fund a portion of the cash consideration for the acquisition of Kalsarm Aerospace. The remaining balance will be funded through the revolver. Now let's move to Slide 4, where I will provide an update on our business segment Q3 performance.

Speaker 2

In the 3rd quarter, we delivered both record revenue and record profitability our Aviation segment, driven by a 34% increase in aviation sales in the quarter. Our Aviation segment balanced revenue growth was driven by strong execution on new and existing distribution programs and expanded portfolio of MRO capabilities and contributions from the TCI acquisition. The Aviation segment also reported record profitability driven by balanced contributions from new distribution programs, the optimization of existing distribution programs, MRO market share gains and our new OEM licensed manufacturing programs and contributions from the TCI acquisition. During the Q3, fleet segment revenue declined 11%. USPS revenue declined as forecasted due to the final phase of implementation of a new fleet management information system.

Speaker 2

The conversion of their facilities to this new ERP platform resulted in a temporary slowdown in maintenance related activities and parts usage with recovery anticipated to begin this quarter. The USPS revenue decline was offset by 20% organic growth from the fleet's e commerce fulfillment business and expanded product offerings supporting new and existing customers within our commercial fleet sales channel. With that, I will now turn the call over to Adam to discuss the details of our financial performance.

Speaker 3

Thank you, John. Let's turn to Slides 56 of the conference call materials, where I will provide an overview of our Q3 financial performance. VSE generated $274,000,000 of revenue in the quarter, an increase of 18%, led by a 34% increase in aviation revenue, partially offset by a 11% decline in fleet revenue. Adjusted EBITDA of $33,000,000 increased 3% compared to the Q3 of 2023. Aviation drove this growth, up $7,000,000 compared to the same period in the prior year, partially offset by a $5,000,000 decline in adjusted EBITDA for fleet.

Speaker 3

Adjusted net income was $13,000,000 and adjusted diluted earnings per share was $0.71 per share. Now turning to Slide 7, where we will review our Aviation segment's record 3rd quarter results in more detail. Aviation revenue increased 34% to a record $204,000,000 as compared to the Q3 2023. Both distribution and MRO businesses were strong contributors, up 12% 86%, respectively. The 12% increase in distribution revenue was driven by strong execution of existing OEM programs and the ramp of new OEM programs.

Speaker 3

This growth rate remains above market on a blended basis as the business and general aviation distribution market is growing at mid single digits and the commercial aerospace distribution market is growing at low double digit growth rate. Our MRO revenue grew by 86% in the quarter, driven by the expansion of new repair capabilities, market share gains, improved throughput across our MRO facilities and contributions from the TCI acquisition. Excluding contributions from the TCI acquisition, MRO revenue increased organically approximately 17% in the quarter. Aviation adjusted EBITDA increased by 29% in the quarter to a record $33,000,000 The increase in adjusted EBITDA was driven by scaling of new distribution programs, strong performance from existing distribution programs, an increase in MRO activity and contributions from TCI and our newly launched OEM licensed fuel control manufacturing program. Aviation's near record adjusted EBITDA margin of 16% was negatively impacted by lower margin TCI contributions.

Speaker 3

We are increasing our full year 2024 revenue growth range from 34% to 38% to 39% to 41%. Revenue contributions from the KELSTREM acquisition, which is expected to close in the Q4 of 2024, are not included in our updated guidance. We're also maintaining our adjusted EBITDA margin guidance of 15.5% to 16.5%, respectively. As John mentioned earlier, we are very excited about our recently announced acquisition of Kellstram Aerospace. The acquisition is strongly aligned with BSE Aviation's distribution business and highly complementary to our recent TCI acquisition focused on the commercial engine aftermarket.

Speaker 3

The combination of the two businesses is expected to yield significant sales and operating synergies, better positioning VSE in the global aviation aftermarket. Now turning to Slide 8 for our Fleet segment's 3rd quarter results. In the Q3, Fleet segment revenue declined 11% to $70,000,000 driven by lower USPS revenue, partially offset by e commerce fulfillment and commercial fleet sales growth. Commercial revenue was $45,000,000 in the 3rd quarter, an increase of 20% compared to the prior year. Commercial revenue represents 64% of total fleet segment sales compared to 47% in the prior year period.

Speaker 3

USPS revenue, which is included within our other government channel, declined approximately 40% compared to the Q3 of last year, which was at the lower end of our previously provided guidance range. We expect to see USPS sales begin to recover in the 4th quarter, resulting in 30% to 35% decline for the full year. Moving on to fleet profitability. Segment adjusted EBITDA decreased 59% to $4,000,000 driven by the decline in USPS sales volume. Fleets adjusted EBITDA margin was 5.4% for the Q3.

Speaker 3

For the full year 2024, we are lowering our fleet segment revenue growth range from 0% to 5% to a decline of 5% to 10% compared to the prior year based on actual revenue to date and planned customer growth in the Q4. We remain confident in our ability to support USPS revenue recovery and continued above market growth within our commercial business segment in the 4th quarter and continued into 2025. With respect to fleet adjusted EBITDA, we are maintaining the previously provided margin range of 6% to 8%. Turning to Slide 9. In the Q3, we generated $10,000,000 of operating cash flow and $4,000,000 of free cash flow, driven by disciplined working capital management and strong operating results.

Speaker 3

At the end of the quarter, our total net debt outstanding was $442,000,000 Adjusted net leverage, which includes a trailing 12 month results from prior acquisitions, was 3.3x. Following our recently completed equity raise, which has temporarily reduced our adjusted net leverage ratio to 2.1x and the planned completion of the Kellstom acquisition in the 4th quarter, we anticipate our Q3 2024 adjusted net leverage ratio to improve to approximately 3x. Our adjusted net leverage is expected to further improve in the 4th quarter, driven by stronger free cash flow conversion on adjusted EBITDA basis in the Q4 as compared to the Q3 of 2024. With that, I will turn it back over to John.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Adam. I would like to conclude our prepared remarks by recapping our 2024 priorities on Slide 10. It's been a busy year at BSE. We divested all non core federal and defense assets, acquired 2 market leading commercial aftermarket engine focused businesses, expanded our footprint and won and implemented significant new business. Let's begin with our Aviation segment.

Speaker 2

First, our Pratt and Whitney Europe, Middle East and Africa program implementation is ahead of schedule, and we have introduced new product lines in our new Hamburg, Germany distribution center. We will finalize these implementations before year end as we continue to position the facility to support additional product lines in the near future. 2nd, our OEM licensed fuel control manufacturing program launch continues to outpace expectations. The implementation of the manufacturing capabilities supporting this program DESER acquisition U. S.

Speaker 2

Distribution business was completed during the Q3. The remaining business integrations are expected to be completed within the next year. Supporting these integrations, we launched a new e commerce platform. We will continue to optimize this platform in the quarter ahead. 4th, we remain focused on adding incremental capacity and expanding turbine control partnerships with existing customers and OEM partners, while working through our integration plans.

Speaker 2

And 5th, we expect to complete the acquisition of Calstrom Aerospace in December and look forward to begin integration activities in the Q1 of 2025. Moving now to our fleet segment. First, leadership transition will lead the priorities the Q4. As reported earlier this year, Chad Wheeler, Group President of Fleet segment is transitioning from his leadership role this month to a consultant. Chad will support with the transition over the next 12 months.

Speaker 2

I would personally like to thank Chad for his incredible partnership and countless accomplishments achieved over his 33 year tenure with the company. Next, we remain focused on scaling our new distribution and e commerce fulfillment center, including adding new e commerce channels and exclusive brands. 3rd, we will continue to support all USPS vehicle types, including legacy and new vehicles, while managing through the temporary disruption in activity brought on by their new system conversion. 4th, we remain focused on our organic growth and customer diversification within our commercial fleet businesses as we look to add partners, products and exclusive offerings. In summary, we continue to make significant progress on our aviation operating priorities and remain focused on delivering another year of year over year revenue growth and improved profitability.

Speaker 2

Within fleet, we remain committed to scaling our commercial fleet business and managing through the near term and temporary challenges within the USPS. We are focused on generating much stronger free cash flow in the Q4 as compared to the Q3 of 2024. I would like to conclude by thanking the VSE team for all they do daily to support our stakeholders. We are building a recognized industry brand and it is all the result of our outstanding teams around the globe and how they support their customer and supplier partners and each other each and every day. Operator, we are now ready for the question and answer portion of the call.

Operator

Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. And our first question comes from Sheila Kahyaoglu from Jefferies. Please go ahead.

Speaker 4

Hey, good morning guys and great quarter and welcome on. Maybe, John, for you, let's talk about Aviation growth, just another phenomenal quarter, up 13% organically. How much of the guidance range would you say was organic outperformance versus better contribution from TCI that you're seeing running ahead of plans?

Speaker 2

The wait. So Michael and Adam, the good morning, Chile. So the 13% was ex TCI, correct?

Speaker 1

Correct. Yes.

Speaker 2

Yes. So 13% is without TCI. TCI had a phenomenal, phenomenal growth quarter, on their own. Is that I want to make sure I understood your question.

Speaker 4

Perfect. So what's driving that aviation outperformance?

Speaker 2

What's driving it? Yes, I mean, it's interesting. It's higher growth in MRO than distribution. I was really pleased with the growth rate because remember, we're business and general aviation and commercial and that business aviation market is stabilizing nicely kind of mid single digits right now. So in totality when we look at kind of our above market growth it's for us in our market specifically, it's strong performance.

Speaker 2

It's definitely our growth is greater in the MRO side than distribution. But honestly, it was pretty balanced. I mean, we've got contributions from almost all of our major programs, nice kind of share of wallet gains, expansion in some of our capabilities on our MRO side, some nice new smaller business wins that are turning out to be nicer than we had anticipated. It's a great balanced quarter. So it's not like one thing drove it, which is the best answer you could have.

Speaker 4

Okay. Maybe that brings my second question, John, since it was pretty balanced, distribution up 12%, so neck and neck in terms of organic growth. Maybe

Speaker 2

how

Speaker 4

do you think about the exit rates as we exit the year, underlying market for MRO versus distribution and maybe share gains like you had given the wins you have? How do we think about that as we exit the year and into 2025?

Speaker 2

Yes. I think as we get into 2025, I think in totality, we feel very comfortable. We've said that we'll continue to outpace the market growth and be in a double digit organic growth perspective for next year. And that includes a definitely I wouldn't say a softening of business in general aviation, but a moderation. So that market is probably going to grow somewhere 6% on the high end, kind of 4% on the low end.

Speaker 2

But we still feel with the share gain that we have won and what has not yet been realized that it puts us in a double digit growth trajectory for next year.

Speaker 4

Okay. Thank you.

Speaker 2

Thanks Sheila.

Operator

The next question comes from Ken Herbert from RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Speaker 5

Yes. Hey, John and Adam and Michael, good morning. Maybe John, looking at the growth you're seeing within your end markets within aviation, how much for the industry do you think distribution is taking share as a part of overall part sales into the aftermarket?

Speaker 2

Yes. I think it's a great question. I think on a personal level, I think I've shared with you a number of times, Ken. I think the market's growing a little slower on the distribution side than what you see in totality. I think many of us have been gaining share over the last number of years and we're starting to realize those gains.

Speaker 2

So I think that on the commercial side, you're really looking at kind of mid to high single digits. And I think on the business and general aviation side, it's like mid single digits in terms of where I think the market is. And then the rest is us outperforming that market with share gains and kind of share wallet expansion and the like with our existing OEMs and our existing product lines.

Speaker 5

Okay. That's helpful. And as we look into 2025, can appreciate the commentary on the top line. Maybe without getting specifics in terms of margin expectations, maybe you can just walk through a couple of the maybe moving pieces as we think about Aviation segment margins next year and how they could look compared to 2024?

Speaker 2

Yes. I think we have some work to do internally on how to present it because we obviously have a $200,000,000 business coming on board in the 4th quarter that's at

Speaker 6

a lower margin percentage. So how

Speaker 2

we kind of share both the impact of Kellst from next year. So to give investors and yourselves confidence that our kind of core business and integrated assets that that margin is kind of stabilized, let's say, 16 plus. And then you're going to see an impact on that. DCI and Kaelstrom until we start integrating. We will start integrating pretty quickly, but we need to find the right way to demonstrate that because you've got some puts and takes.

Speaker 2

But I'd say if you do the math that way, you can get a feel of the core organic business and the biggest driver of margin improvement there is going to be the Honeywell fuel control program and that implementation. And then, you've got those other two business, which is on a margin percentage is slightly dilutive, but there's integration and other activities that will happen throughout 2025 to put them in a stronger position as we get into 2020 the end of the year.

Speaker 5

Okay. Very helpful. So obviously, as we look at the core organic business aside from the fuel control or the sort of the licensing EBITDA contribution next year, we should expect just the base MRO and distribution business to see margin expansion of 2016 or I mean, sorry, off the 24 levels?

Speaker 2

Right. That's where they look at

Speaker 1

I would say based on what we said, Ken, going back to November of 2023 on our guidance that we provided, the initial increase in 2025 over 2024 was related to the implementation of the fuel control program. So we've been able to take some of those benefits upfront in 2025, but we see incremental benefits in 2025 as well as we fully build out those capabilities and burn off that higher cost inventory.

Speaker 5

Okay, perfect. Thanks, Michael. Thanks, John and Adam.

Speaker 7

Thanks. Thanks, Ken.

Operator

The next question comes from Michael Ciarmoli from Truist. Please go ahead.

Speaker 2

Hey, good morning guys. Nice results. Thanks for taking the question. Maybe just to stay on this topic of kind of market share and growth. I mean, are you seeing or taking share specifically or seeing opportunities from Boeing Global Services?

Speaker 2

And then I guess, on the MRO side too, I mean, it seems like there's a real shortage of capacity. It seems like we've got some established players adding new capacity. Does that do either of those dynamics have any impact on sort of your growth on a go forward basis? Yes. I mean, Mike, you look to ask the competitive question.

Speaker 2

So I was thinking about how much I want to share publicly. But I would say there's 3 real areas of growth for us. Number 1 is, we're very OEM centric in what we do. And as our model is starting to resonate with OEMs, the OEMs are coming to us and we're having strategic conversations of, hey, here's work I'm doing today that I don't want to do or I shouldn't be doing or I need to find another solution for. And we're winning a lot of work that way.

Speaker 2

So that's work that's not competitively been in the market. My competition is not running after that work and it's not kind of in the market today. It's being done by the OEM. The second group is definitely traditional share gain and you are thinking of the largest player out there specifically in terms of distribution. And I think many of us in the market are looking at opportunities to gain share against that large player.

Speaker 2

And you are correct on the 3rd. We saw really strong growth in our MRO businesses in the Q3, including TCI, and it's really a function of creating capacity. So we're really doing a lot of capacity planning, looking at different shifts, looking at how we manage our shop floor, because opening up that capacity in and of itself is what's driving the revenue. Turnaround time continues to be the most significant kind of differentiator in the market in terms of MRO ability to win new business. And what about pricing?

Speaker 2

Is there any pricing contribution to kind of your growth or above market growth? Are you able to get price? I mean, obviously, yes, turn times and able to win business, but are you seeing price across distribution and tomorrow? Yes. I mean, price is we look at price and volume when we look at growth.

Speaker 2

So price always has an element to volume. I would say, since I've been at the business, I kind of joined during that COVID period and that post COVID period where you saw price had a bigger impact than we saw kind of in the preceding cycle. I would say it's moderating a bit. It's still an element of the total growth rate, but it's definitely moderating a bit compared to what we saw 2 years ago. Perfect.

Speaker 2

Thanks guys. I'll jump back in the queue here.

Operator

The next question comes from Jeff Van Sinderen from B. Riley Securities. Please go ahead.

Speaker 8

Hey, good morning, everyone. Just wanted to follow-up a little bit on the fuel control business. Maybe you could just remind us what's driving the I guess what's driving that segment to run ahead of plan? And then based on the current run rate of that fuel control business, when do you expect to burn off the high cost inventory?

Speaker 2

Yes. I mean, you just answered the question. It's all about burning off the inventory. So it's the model in and of itself is pretty tight and clean, and it's all about how fast the supply chain can the new inventory comes in at the new cost and how fast we can sell either full units or partial units or kits or the like at the old cost. So that's you've got exactly the model of what's going to determine what's there in terms of improvement.

Speaker 2

So it's a combination. The market is very robust. So it's really supply chain that's driving it because sometimes even though I've got 80% of the parts, I can't ship a full unit until I have 100% of the parts. So getting supply chain really shored up and getting the product that we need in totality, so I can put together full units, that's what's going to drive the burn down of the legacy inventory. So we had a forecast going through 2025.

Speaker 2

We're slightly ahead of plan. I wouldn't say that I expect anything to dramatically shift from here.

Speaker 8

Okay. That's helpful. And then with the overall growth of your MRO business, can you touch on the current margins there that you're achieving? And then maybe speak to opportunities to potentially increase margin rate as MRO scales further?

Speaker 2

Yes. I mean, we don't break out margin by sector. I can tell you that the margins that there's things in our portfolio that are at different margins for different reasons. We have seen continued total if you look at the business on a total EBITDA basis or kind of a segment P and L within the Aviation MRO businesses, we have a general manager of each shop, and we are seeing kind of, I'd say, income margins improve. And it's a combination of factors.

Speaker 2

It's running supply chain better. It's more efficiency in the shop. It's managing labor better. It's a combination of factors, but we are continuing to see consistent improvement as part of our kind of continuous improvement philosophy in those shops. And so I would say it wouldn't be a one and done on any of that.

Speaker 2

It's a number of factors.

Speaker 8

Okay, great. That's helpful. And then I guess just any other color, I realize it's still early and you haven't even closed the acquisition yet. But just thinking about 2025 with Kallstrom, realize you still have integration to go, but I guess any thoughts on how that the integration might proceed in 2025, kind of when you get through that, what the cadence might look like?

Speaker 2

Yes. I mean, they run their business in a few different business segments. So our next earnings call is about end of February, early March. We'll be in a position then to kind of walk you through the integration plan and kind of what to expect. So we plan to look at it and integrating it kind of business segment by business segment.

Speaker 2

But I would tell you that at this point, we would it will probably go ahead of TCI. TCI, our work there is more about adding capacity in the shop floor and it needs less kind of integration support. And we'll probably work on the Kellst from integration piece first because it will drive some sales and other types of synergies that we want to realize as soon as possible. So we're actually meeting with the team today to kind of finalize how we feel about 25% and put ourselves in a position to hit the ground running January 1.

Speaker 8

Okay, great. Thanks for taking my questions. Thanks, Jeff.

Operator

And the next question comes from Noah Levitz from William Blair. Please go ahead.

Speaker 7

John, Adam and Michael, good morning. This is Noah on for Louie DiPalma. Thanks for taking my questions.

Speaker 2

Hey Noah. How are you doing?

Speaker 7

Good and well. Thank you. To start off, you've acquired now both Turbine and Kaelstrom, which serve the commercial engine aftermarket. Can you talk a little bit about what you're finding particularly attractive about the commercial engine aftermarket space, as you're expanding beyond the business in general aviation side? And the $4,000,000 in synergies, is that expected to be more cost synergies?

Speaker 7

Or will there be some revenue contribution as well? Thanks.

Speaker 2

Yes. I mean, I think first I'll talk about the market. And if you look at a lot of the public companies out there like Standard Aero or FTI, there's a lot of great businesses that are and I wouldn't say are competitive to us that are complementary or do some different types of things and you can see their growth rate. I think it's a combination of factors of why that market is really robust in terms of aircraft that are aging, that are going through more unplanned repairs than anticipated because of build rate declines at the OEMs, coupled with some new engine types that are coming to market where the OEMs are now focused on those engines. So there's more work on legacy engines that are going to hit 3rd parties like ourselves.

Speaker 2

I think those are the two reasons that we see the market very, very attractive. The other thing is a complex market and it's one that distribution and MRO really serve and they add real value in the space. With regard to synergies, I mean, they come from a variety of places. I would tell you that we have a strong core competency in terms of integration. And we feel very confident and obviously we publicly shared a number in our ability to drive that to closure over the next 12 to 15 months.

Speaker 7

Got it. Thank you. And then a follow-up. Now that you've done the secondary and given yourself a little bit more wiggle room with leverage, can you talk about future M and A? You've been highly acquisitive this year in particular.

Speaker 7

Would you like is that still in the playbook? Is there anything in the pipeline? And would it divert from the new commercial engine aftermarket that you've kind of focused on with the past 2? Thanks.

Speaker 2

Yes. I mean, it's a great question. We've been acquisitive, and we'll continue to be acquisitive. I would say it's not a necessity to our story. This is not a roll up story.

Speaker 2

This is we're adding capabilities, customers, products and the like. So the right assets that are out there, we obviously want to be a player in that space. Because a lot of assets didn't trade during COVID as they waited for the market to recover, there happens to be a decent number of assets that hit the market this year. And we found the 2 that really kind of matched our strategic portfolio the best and thought that was best to execute on those 2. The difference in what others do versus what we do is we fully integrate our businesses.

Speaker 2

So when I and you ask me today, 2025 is going to be about integrating the businesses, optimizing the businesses, getting our platform and our foundation ready for that next phase of both organic and inorganic growth. That said, we always keep a pipeline of M and A. Is there anything absolutely pending? No. But if the right transaction comes along, we look at it.

Speaker 2

But I would say right now, our near term focus is closing on Kellstram. Again, as I mentioned a minute ago, probably, Kellstram will be integrated first, getting TCI expanded expand those that shop floor and get them ready. The growth is and the opportunities are plentiful out there and really positioning our business for the next phase of organic growth as well. If tuck in M and A happens, great. If it doesn't happen, we'll keep our balance sheet nice and clean and continue to hopefully generate stronger free cash flow in the back end of this year and into next year.

Speaker 2

So we can make the balance sheet look even stronger and focus on execution.

Speaker 7

Great. Thank you. That's all from me.

Operator

The next question comes from Josh Sullivan from Benchmark. Please go ahead.

Speaker 6

Hey, good morning.

Speaker 3

Good morning, Josh.

Speaker 8

Hey, Josh.

Speaker 6

What's your sense of the overall aftermarket cycle at this point? The conversation around aftermarket versus OEM momentum is picking up, Boeing resolving strike, supply chain slowly improving, but maybe not fast enough. What's your view of the aftermarket both from demand side as well as supply side as you guys are exposed at this point?

Speaker 2

Yes. I mean, I continue to think the market is a little softer than others like meaning, I think the market naturally is kind of on the commercial side closer to 10% than it is kind of above 10%. And I think that because of the combination of factors. I think there's capacity constraints. I don't think supply chain is really that fixed.

Speaker 2

And I think that there's always it's like a whack a mole. Once one thing gets fixed, another issue pops up in the market. I feel that there's kind of abundance of factors out there. If you look at 2025 and even into 26, I don't believe you're going to see build rates back to kind of historic levels. And you're going to see kind of slow and steady growth in build rates for new aircraft.

Speaker 2

So I do believe we've got 2 more years of nice strong organic growth into the cycle.

Speaker 6

And then maybe one on the fleet segment. Just is the post office operating system any different now with this new ERP in place as it relates to your business historically? We'll go ahead

Speaker 5

and you Michael. Yes.

Speaker 1

No, I would say from the new FMI system, I said we are positioned with them is as strong as it has been. We are very much embedded within their supply chain. So it's a matter of just working with them, working through the kinks and the processes and helping them essentially repair these legacy, but also the new vehicles that are coming into the installed base. So we continue to be here to support the USPS through this transition. And we see positive results in terms of the vehicle maintenance facilities that had been moved to the new ERP system and have now begun to recover.

Speaker 1

Now that we've passed this point in time in terms of the completion, which happened during the Q3, we should see a nice recovery into the Q4 and that should extend into the first half into 2025.

Speaker 2

Yes. I think one thing to add, Josh, is that, it's interesting we were with the team last week and I was like, you're pretty accurate in your forecast, because it seems quite complicated to me. And they're like, at this point, it's just math. We have data on the to me. And they're like, at this point, it's just math.

Speaker 2

We have data on the first sites that went live and how they're recovering. It's the system still is not, I would say, the most efficient. So we're not seeing even at the sites that went live a year ago, we're not seeing those levels. We're not seeing kind of pre level that what it was before the system transition happened. So it's a slow gradual kind of increase as we get into next year.

Speaker 2

The big question is where does it level off because the fleet transition kind of happened. It's probably more like 85 ish percent of kind of where it was at the peak.

Speaker 6

Great. Thank you for the time.

Operator

This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to John Cuomo for any closing remarks.

Speaker 2

Thank you everybody for making time for us today. Look forward to a strong finish to the year and speaking with you early in 2025. Have a great day.

Operator

The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.

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