WhiteHorse Finance Q3 2024 Earnings Call Transcript

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November 7, 2024

There are 7 speakers on the call.

Operator

Good morning. My name is Jamie, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the WhiteHorse Finance Third Quarter 2024 Earnings Conference Call. Our hosts for today's call are Stuart Aronson, Chief Executive Officer and Joyson Thomas, Chief Financial Officer. Today's call is being recorded and will be made available for replay beginning at 4 p.

Operator

M. Eastern Time. The replay dial in number is

Speaker 1

4022206085.

Operator

No passcode is required. At this time, all participants have been placed in a listen only mode, It is now my pleasure to turn the floor over to Robert Greenberg of Rose and Company. Please go ahead.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Jamie, and thank you everyone for joining us today to discuss WhiteHorse Finance's Q3 2024 Earnings Results. Before we begin, I'd like to remind everyone that certain statements which are not based on historical facts made during this call, including any statements relating to financial guidance, may be deemed forward looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Because these forward looking statements involve known and unknown risks and uncertainties, these are important factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those expressed or implied by these forward looking statements. WhiteHorse Finance assumes no obligation or responsibility to update any forward looking statements. Today's speakers may refer to material from the WhiteHorse Finance Q3 2024 Earnings Presentation, which was posted on our website this morning.

Speaker 2

With that, allow me to introduce WhiteHorse Finance's CEO, Stuart Aronson. Stuart, you may begin.

Speaker 1

Thank you, Rob. Good morning, everybody, and thank you all for joining us today. As you're aware, we issued our earnings this morning prior to market open, and I hope you've had a chance to review our results for the period ending September 30, 2024, which can also be found on our website. On today's call, I will begin by addressing our Q3 results and current market conditions. Joyceann Thomas, our Chief Financial Officer, will then discuss our performance in greater detail.

Speaker 1

Afterwards, we will open the floor for questions. Our results for the Q3 of 2024 were disappointing as our investment portfolio declined this quarter due to net realized and unrealized losses, which impacted our financial performance. Q3 GAAP net investment income in core NII was $9,200,000 or $0.394 per share, which exceeded our quarterly base dividend of $0.385 per share and was slightly below Q2 GAAP and core NII of $9,300,000 or $0.40 per share. NAV per share at the end of Q3 was $12.77 representing a 5.1% decrease from the prior quarter. NAV per share was impacted by net markdowns in our portfolio totaling $15,900,000 the majority of which related to markdowns on American Crafts and Honors Holdings, which I will discuss shortly.

Speaker 1

Turning to our portfolio activity in Q3, we had gross capital deployments of $51,000,000 which was partially offset by total repayments and sales of $30,200,000 resulting in net deployments of $20,800,000 Gross capital deployments of $51,000,000 consisted of 7 new originations totaling $49,000,000 with the remaining $2,000,000 used to fund 4 add ons to existing investments. Of our 7 new originations in Q3, 3 were non sponsor and 4 were sponsor deals with the average leverage of approximately 4.13 times debt to EBITDA. All of our Q3 deals were 1st lien loans with an average spread of 5.75 basis points and an average all in rate of 10.8 percent compared to 11.8% in the Q2 of 2024. During the quarter, the BDC transferred 3 new deals and one add on to the STRS JV. At the end of Q3, the STRS JV total portfolio had an aggregate fair value of $309,800,000 and an average unlevered yield of 11.7% compared to 12.3% in Q2.

Speaker 1

Leverage for the JV at the end of Q3 was 0.97 times compared with 1.08 times at the end of the prior quarter. We continue to utilize the STRS JV successfully and believe WhiteHorse's equity investment in the JV continues to provide attractive returns for our shareholders. At the end of Q3, 99% of our debt portfolio was 1st lien, senior secured and our portfolio mix was approximately 63% sponsor and 37% non sponsor. In Q3, total repayments and sales were 30,200,000 primarily driven by 2 complete realizations and 1 partial repayment and 1 partial sale. After the effects of deployments, repayments and STRS JV transfers, as well as $15,900,000 in net mark to market decreases and the $1,300,000 of accretion, the total value of our investment portfolio was $654,300,000 This compares to our portfolio's fair value of $660,000,000 at the end of the previous quarter.

Speaker 1

The weighted average effective yield on our income producing debt investments was 13.1% at the end of Q3 compared to approximately 13.8% in the Q2 of 2024 and 13.6% in the Q3 of 2023. Transitioning to the BDC's portfolio, the challenges in this quarter generally do not relate to the overall economy, but rather are more company specific. We are working with experts within HIG to optimize the outcomes of workout accounts. The balance of the portfolio is generally stable. During the quarter, we took a $6,600,000 write down on American Crafts and are currently seeking to either restructure or sell the company.

Speaker 1

The company's previously challenged performance was further impacted by the loss of a material customer in the quarter. While we continue to execute improvement initiatives, we believe we have the asset mark consistent where it might be sold to a strategic player. We also took a $5,000,000 write down on Honors Holdings, reflecting continued challenging industry conditions with a slowdown across many fitness concepts reflected in ongoing weak customer trends. We had previously placed the company on non accrual status in the Q2. We continue to work with the franchisor of the company to restructure the Honors holding credit and to try to ultimately improve the company's performance.

Speaker 1

And we as the lender have taken control of this credit. At the end of the Q3, we also placed Telestream on non accrual status, which resulted in a $900,000 write down. We recognized approximately $557,000 of income from the credit in Q3, while reversing our approximately $300,000 in accrued interest. While the company continues to generate significant EBITDA, we are focused on restructuring Telestream and our current expectation is that part of the loan will be back on accrual status within 2 quarters and hopefully even sooner. Non accrual investments totaled 5.6 percent of the total debt portfolio compared with the prior quarter of 3.6 percent of the total debt portfolio.

Speaker 1

Turning to the lending market in general, conditions across all sponsor segments remain very aggressive. There continues to be a shortage of new quality deal flow and what is in the market is in very thin pricing. We've seen middle market pricing compressed down to spreads of SOFR 4.75 to SOFR 5.25 and lower mid market spreads move to approximately SOFR 4.75 to SOFR 5.75. From our perspective, we believe there is excessive leverage on a lot of credits that have cyclicality and we are not participating in those transactions. There is a more attractive backdrop in the non sponsor market where the market continues to support leverage of only 3 to 4.5 times and pricing tends to be between SOFR 600 to SOFR 800.

Speaker 1

We are redoubling our efforts to focus on the non sponsor market where there is better risk return in many cases and much less competition than what we are seeing in the on the run sponsor market. In the on the run sponsor market, we see generally very aggressive turns and therefore focusing more on the off the run sponsor market and the non sponsor market. 4th quarter volume is likely to be modest compared to other 4th quarters. Generally supply demand is out of balance with lenders stretching too far for the better credits. For example, what we see on many of the better credits is the leverage is often so high that the cash flows are not greater than a 1.0 fixed charge coverage level.

Speaker 1

More broadly, while we continue to think there will be some declines in interest rates, we are also concerned that we could have government budgets that could put pressure on inflation based on the current policies of our new elected President. So we do not necessarily believe sulfur will come down as far as the yield curve indicates, which is probably good news for the BDC, but it means we're being careful on debt service coverages. We have also continued to see some softening in the economy based on interest rates having been high over the last several years. Subsequent to quarter end, the BDC closed one new investment and a few add ons to existing credits, totaling approximately $7,500,000 and has had repayments of approximately 21,000,000 dollars including 3 full realizations. The JV in the 3rd quarter had repayments for 3 investments for approximately $35,000,000 following net repayment activity in Q3 and pro form a for several transactions in early Q4 and the special distribution we announced in October, the BDC balance sheet has approximately $45,000,000 of capacity for new assets.

Speaker 1

The JV has approximately $90,000,000 of capacity, supplementing the BDC's existing capacity. Given the decline in pricing, we continue to expect repayment activity to remain high for the balance of this year and into 2025. While volume is lighter than we'd like it to be in all market segments, our pipeline is still at about 185 deals. We currently have 7 new mandates and are working on 4 add ons through existing deals. While there can be no assurance that any of these deals will close, all of these credits would fit into the BDC or our JV should we elect to transact.

Speaker 1

With that, I'll turn the call over to Joyson for additional performance details and a review of our portfolio composition. Joyson?

Speaker 3

Thanks, Stuart, and thank you everyone for joining today's call. During the quarter, we recorded GAAP net investment income and core NII of $9,200,000 or $0.394 per share. This compares with Q2 GAAP NII and core NII of $9,300,000 each or $0.485 per share as well as our previously declared quarterly distribution of $0.385 per share. Q3 fee income was lower quarter over quarter at approximately $300,000 compared with $400,000 from the prior quarter. Q3 amounts were primarily comprised of prepayment and amendment fees.

Speaker 3

For the quarter, we reported a net decrease in net assets resulting from operations of $6,900,000 Our risk ratings during the quarter show that approximately 75.1 percent of our portfolio positions either carried over 1 or 2 rating, slightly higher than the 74.4% reported in the prior quarter. As a reminder, a 1 rating indicates that a company has seen its risk of loss reduced relative to initial expectations and a 2 rating indicates company is performing according to such initial expectations. Regarding the JV specifically, we continue to grow our investment. As Stuart had mentioned earlier, in the Q3, we transferred 3 new deals and one add on to the SIRS JV, totaling $15,100,000 As of September 30, 2024, the JV's portfolio held positions in 38 portfolio companies with an aggregate fair value of approximately 309,800,000 dollars compared to 38 portfolio companies at an aggregate fair value of $324,800,000 as of June 30, 2024. The investment in the JV continues to be accretive to the BDC's earnings, generating a mid teens return on equity.

Speaker 3

During Q3, total investment income recognized from our investments in the JV aggregated to approximately $4,000,000 during the quarter, which compares with approximately $3,900,000 in Q2. As we have noted in prior calls, the yield on our investment in the JV may fluctuate period over period as a result of a number of factors, including the timing and amount of additional capital investments, the changes in asset yields in the underlying portfolio as well as the overall credit performance of the JV's investment portfolio. Turning to our balance sheet now, we had cash resources of approximately $20,700,000 at the end of Q3, including $9,500,000 in restricted cash $9,500,000 in restricted cash and approximately $173,000,000 of undrawn capacity available under our revolving credit facility. As of December 30, 2024, the company's asset coverage ratio for borrowed amounts as defined by the 1940 Act was 183.4%, which was above the minimum asset coverage ratio of 150%. Our Q3 net effective debt to equity ratio after adjusting for cash on hand was approximately 1.13 times compared with 1.09 times from the prior quarter.

Speaker 3

Before I conclude and open up the call to questions, I'd again like to highlight our distributions. This morning, we announced that our Board declared a 4th quarter distribution of $0.385 per share, which is consistent with the prior quarter. The upcoming regular distribution, the 49th consecutive quarterly distribution paid since our IPO in December 2012, with all distributions at or above a rate of $0.355 per share per quarter, will be payable on January 3, 2025, to stockholders record as of December 20, 2024. In addition to our quarterly distribution, we elected to declare a special distribution of $0.245 per share for stockholders of record as of October 31, 2024. The distribution will be payable on December 10, 2024.

Speaker 3

Pro form a for this special distribution, we estimate our spillback income to be approximately 26,800,000 dollars As we said previously, we will continue to evaluate our quarterly distribution both in the near and medium term based on the core earnings power of our portfolio in addition to other relevant factors that may warrant consideration. With that, I'll now turn the call over to the operator for your questions. Operator?

Operator

Thank We'll take our first question from Melissa Weddle with JPMorgan. Please go ahead.

Speaker 4

Good morning. Thanks for taking my questions. Good morning, Melissa. I wanted to follow-up on your comments about the deal environment. And specifically, you mentioned that this 4th quarter may not be as robust as typically seen in that seasonally busy quarter.

Speaker 4

Though repayments are expected to be elevated, I think you said in the coming quarters, should we it sounds like we should be thinking about modest portfolio deleveraging over the next few quarters. Is that am I hearing you correctly there?

Speaker 1

I would tell you that based on the mandates that we have without clarity as to whether they'll all close, if most of them do close, they should match up in balance with any repayment activity that we currently see. So I don't see leverage getting lower. That said, we have a lot of undeployed capacity, both on the BDC balance sheet, which is targeted for assets priced at SOFR 600 and greater and on the JV where there's $90,000,000 of capacity. Those are for assets that are priced under Sulphur 600, which would typically be the sponsor deals in today's market. And I'm not sure, given the relative balance of deal volume, that we're going to be able to deploy much of that excess capacity here in Q4.

Speaker 1

But I don't think based on what we see right now that we would have shrinkage of portfolio size, I would personally estimate based on current volume stability.

Speaker 4

I appreciate that. I know it's difficult to estimate that with any degree of accuracy really looking ahead. I understand there are a lot of moving parts. I think one of the second question, there's been a lot of focus on the quality of investment income across the industry and the percentage of PIK income in particular as a function of total revenue. When you look across the portfolio, we've seen sort of a gradual increase over time over the last 4 quarters maybe in PIK income as a percentage of total revenue.

Speaker 4

And just want to understand how you're thinking about that, how it informs new deals that you put on the balance sheet and how you manage any investments that are opting for PIK income and what that means for ValueMARK or engagement with management? Thank you.

Speaker 1

Yes. As it regards new deals, we generally seek either 100% cash income or the vast majority being cash income. As an example, the Westinghouse deal that we put in a couple of quarters ago, had a little bit of pick, but it was still for $5.50 cash plus 100 basis points a pick. Most of the picks that we have in portfolio relates to troubled accounts that we're looking to turn around. And we try to be very realistic, if we are picking interest, but a company is moving in the wrong direction and the likelihood of collecting that interest is in debt, we take the asset on the non accrual as we did with Telestream.

Speaker 1

As I highlighted in my prepared remarks, Telestream still has a significant amount of EBITDA, but the amount of EBITDA is not supportive of the current debt load. So, the lenders are likely to take over that credit, restructure the debt and most of that debt or the debt either all or most of the debt that would come back onto the balance sheet would come on as cash paid debt would be our expectation or at least it would be cash paid debt within a quarter or 2.

Operator

Thank you. We'll hear next from Robert Dodd with Raymond James.

Speaker 4

Hi, guys.

Speaker 5

Hi. Jason, you gave us the spillover number. I wrote down 26, but I think I might have written down the wrong number. Can you repeat what that is?

Speaker 3

Robert, dollars 26,800,000 pro form a discussion.

Speaker 5

Yes, got it. Got it. Thank you. Then, I mean, Stuart, your comments about how aggressive the market is, I mean, talking about deals being done at originations for middle market, loan and more companies have fixed charge coverage ratios below 1. I mean, how long do you think that competitive environment can hard question.

Speaker 5

How long do you think that kind of competitive environment can sustain itself? I mean, is it the aggressive drivers just betting on growth? Or underwriting on those kind of terms seems somewhat problematic.

Speaker 1

Yes. I mean, Melissa's point about pick interest in general really gets to that point, Robert, where people are structuring deals that have the ability to pick part or all of the coupon of the deal in order to accommodate the fact that the cash flows of the company can't service the debt load. I would say, yes, you're right that people are predicting growth, which is one of the ways that they'll dig themselves out of the less than 1.0 fixed charge coverage hole. But more than that, people are very much expecting sulfur to decline. Candidly, we are, as I highlighted, more skeptical of the yield curve right now, given what we understand to be pressures that are likely to be on the economy that will be reinflationary.

Speaker 1

That's not to say we don't think there'll be some more small cuts from the Fed in the near term, But we are skeptical that a year to 2 years from now, sulfur is as low as the yield curve is indicating. And I would say that the move in the 10 year treasuries yesterday was an indication that the market is starting to see some of the same things that we are seeing. So we are sticking to our knitting. The catch-twenty 2 is on the stronger non cyclical credits, the leverage levels and fixed charge coverage levels are very challenged. On the more cyclical credits, the leverage levels are obviously lower, but we get very nervous putting more than 3.5 or 4 times leverage on a cyclical credit.

Speaker 1

And the market at the moment is in many cases well in excess of that. So we have turned down, walked away from or lost a lot of deals in the market right now, because we just think people it's not so much a price issue, because we don't think we're going to walk away from a good deal based on price, But it is the fact that people are putting anywhere from a half a turn to in some cases a turn and a half too much leverage on credits. And that's why we've redoubled our efforts in the non sponsor sector where leverage is much lower, and we hope to book a higher ratio of non sponsor deals while the markets remain this aggressive.

Speaker 5

Thank you for that color. One moment, very helpful. One more if I can. On American Crafts, your historic track record has been to try and stay with a troubled credit long term and work it out, turn it around and hopefully get a full recovery. It sounds like American Crafts obviously lost a material customer, but it sounds like you've taken another look at that credit and decided that's not a viable strategy and a sooner exit might be better.

Speaker 5

So I mean, is it just the change of I mean, just the loss of the material customer? Or is there something else that's changed there in terms of your decision making of maybe not sticking with it and working it out further versus a quick sale?

Speaker 1

Yes. Robert, that you're exactly right. We have a very strong track record of taking over credits and turning them around and getting to full recovery. When we had to take over American Crafts because it ran into liquidity problems, we did inject additional capital into the company to bring the trade current and to get product shipped and to increase our fill rates. But given the challenges the company was facing, which we were addressing, the loss of the major customer took the revenue base of the company down low enough that we don't see a path for a real recovery of that company as a standalone entity.

Speaker 1

And it would take an injection of more capital into the company to have a shot to turn it around. And at this point, we don't think that that would be money that would be well invested. So, we are exploring a sale of the company to strategic players who are the logical ones to own it, given that we don't think the company is going to be able to be significantly profitable on a standalone basis. So, it is not consistent with our history of successful turnarounds. This would be unfortunately a failed turnaround and that is why I characterized the NAV for the quarter as disappointing and we are very disappointed.

Speaker 1

And we are on other accounts, including Telestream, Honors, working very hard to turn those around and get to what we've done historically, which is not only getting our money back, but getting a gain on many of these credits that we have to take control of. And we do work with HIG, Private Equity Resources, to make sure that we execute on management changes, cost cuts and revenue growth opportunities on those turnaround accounts.

Speaker 5

Got it. Thank you.

Operator

And we'll turn now to Bryce Roe with B. Riley. Please go ahead.

Speaker 1

Good morning, Bryce. Hi there.

Speaker 6

How are you, Stuart?

Speaker 1

Doing well.

Speaker 6

Good. Hey, I wanted to ask about your comment around redoubling on the non sponsor effort. And you guys have talked quite a bit about over the years the resources you have across the country on within different markets to drive deal flow. When you talk about redoubling, I mean, what exactly does that mean?

Speaker 1

It means that we have regular dialogue with our originators in our 12 regional locations, indicating to them that chasing on the run sponsor deals in today's market is likely to be low productivity, and asking them to work on developing more of the non sponsor opportunities. That involves talking to CEOs, CFOs, deal brokers, lawyers, accountants, wealth managers. In fact, in support of that non sponsor marketing activity, I find myself in Denver this morning, where I joined our new Denver originator last night for a non sponsor origination effort that was targeted at about 35 or 40 deal professionals in this Denver market. And so things like that that I did last night, along with a number of efforts being taken by other members of the team, have resulted in us doing a higher percentage of non sponsor deals than we did in 2022 or 2023. So, in a normal market environment, we see somewhere between 20% to 30% of our deals being non sponsor, but this in this market environment, any given quarter, 30% to 50% of our deals are non sponsor.

Speaker 6

And if you look across, at least in the deck that you have here, pretty consistent, 2 thirds, 1 third sponsor versus non sponsor. Over time, kind of assuming some of these competitive dynamics don't really shift and certainly they likely will. But is there maybe a renewed effort to permanently take that non sponsored level higher within the portfolio, especially thinking about the better pricing and better terms that you get with it?

Speaker 1

Yes, I would say that is likely. At the moment, virtually all sponsor deals are priced below Soper 600. So the sponsor deals that we're doing will almost all, not necessarily 100%, but almost all be targeted for the JV and it will be primarily non sponsor deals that will be going on through the BDC balance sheet. So if market conditions persist in their current manner, I would expect to see the ratio of non sponsor deals on our portfolio rise over the next quarter to 5 quarters.

Speaker 6

Okay. And one more for me. In terms of that non sponsor market, who are you what's the competitive dynamic like there? Are you running into other public BDCs or different I guess different capital providers?

Speaker 1

If you get into the upper mid market and large cap market on non sponsor deals, you see a number of historically sponsor oriented players seeking volume because of how the markets are and in some cases underpricing those deals. But in the core mid market and lower mid market, where sourcing non sponsor deals is a very organic and labor intensive effort because the big banks don't intermediate those deals. We see very limited competition. There are other players who participate in the sponsor mid market and lower mid market. They include names like Comvest, MGG and Goldman to name 3.

Speaker 1

But there is no one competitor that we see consistently in that market. And a lot of the mid market and lower mid market non sponsor deals that we work on, we are working on a negotiated basis without any direct competition on the transactions. That's not to say there's not a recognition of those clients as to what market pricing is, but there is again very limited competition in the non sponsor space for organic origination as compared to the sponsor space. In fact, I'd tell you there are 20 times more players in the sponsor space than there are in the non sponsor space.

Speaker 6

Okay. Last one for me. When we're looking at the yield compression for the quarter, it looks like 70 basis points, 7 0 basis points. Any sense for how to think about that spread compression versus interest rate or lower base rates? What the impact is?

Speaker 1

Lower base rates, I mean, Joyce and you can confirm it. I think they were about 50 basis points of the 70% compression, but we are seeing a combination of lower base rates and lower spreads. We on both our sponsor and non sponsor deals have during favorable market environments always seek to maximize our call protection. And so we typically get at least 2 years of call protection on sponsor deals and 3 to 4 years of call protection on non sponsor deals. And that has been protecting some of our higher spread deals in portfolio.

Speaker 1

But as time passes, you've got an entire year now where market pricing has been lower. And so as those call protections either roll off or step down, we are going to see increased pressure to reprice deals to the current market level. And that market level is down 100 basis points to 150 basis points from where it was in mid-twenty 22 mid-twenty 23. That's not just for us. I believe that is true across the market, both sponsor and non sponsor, where pricing has fallen more in the sponsor market than it has in the non sponsor market.

Speaker 1

And I believe that all of our competitors are dealing with a similar dynamic.

Speaker 6

Yes. Okay. Appreciate all the commentary.

Speaker 1

Thank you.

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