NASDAQ:OGI Organigram Q1 2024 Earnings Report $1.07 +0.03 (+2.88%) Closing price 04/17/2025 04:00 PM EasternExtended Trading$1.08 +0.00 (+0.47%) As of 04/17/2025 06:07 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. Earnings HistoryForecast Organigram EPS ResultsActual EPS-$0.14Consensus EPS -$0.10Beat/MissMissed by -$0.04One Year Ago EPSN/AOrganigram Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$26.78 millionExpected Revenue$28.61 millionBeat/MissMissed by -$1.83 millionYoY Revenue GrowthN/AOrganigram Announcement DetailsQuarterQ1 2024Date2/13/2024TimeN/AConference Call DateTuesday, February 13, 2024Conference Call Time8:00AM ETUpcoming EarningsOrganigram's Q2 2025 earnings is scheduled for Tuesday, May 13, 2025, with a conference call scheduled at 8:00 AM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Q2 2025 Earnings ReportConference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress ReleaseEarnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Organigram Q1 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrFebruary 13, 2024 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 7 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good morning. My name is Christa, and I'll be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the OrganiGram Holdings First Quarter Fiscal 20 24 Earnings Conference Call. After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question and answer session. Thank you. Operator00:00:27Max Schwartz, you may begin your conference. Speaker 100:00:31Good morning and thank you for joining us today. As a reminder, this call is being recorded and the recording will be available on OrganiM's website 24 hours after today's call. Listeners should be aware that today's call will include estimates forward looking information from which the company's actual results could differ. Please review the cautionary language in our press release dated February 13, 2024 on various factors, assumptions and risks that could cause our actual results to differ. Further reference will be made to certain non IFRS measures during this call, including adjusted EBITDA, free cash flow and adjusted gross margin, among others. Speaker 100:01:03These measures do not have any standardized meaning under IFRS and are intended to provide additional information and as such should not be considered in isolation or as a substitute for measures of performance prepared in accordance with IFRS. Our approach to calculating these measures may differ from other issuers, so these measures not be directly comparable. Please see today's earnings report for more information about these measures. In this call, references to fiscal 2023 are just month period for September 1, 2022, produced September 30, 2023. Listeners should also be aware that the company relies on reputable third party providers on certain statements relating to market share data. Speaker 100:01:39Unless otherwise indicated, all references to market data are sourced from High Fire in combination with data from we call our potential boards, retailers and our internal sales figures. Today, we'll be hearing from key members of our senior leadership team, beginning with Bina Goldenberg, Chief Executive Officer, who will provide opening remarks and commentary followed by Greg Gouyette, Chief Financial Officer, who will review our quarterly financial results for Q1 fiscal 2024. Also joining us for the question and answer segment is Tim Embroek, Chief Commercial Officer. As a reminder to our analysts and institutional investors on the call today, we are pleased to invite you to join us at our Investor Day at Moncton, New Brunswick facility on the evening of April 9 for dinner and the morning of April 10, where we will offer a tour of our flagship facility and showcase our science backed product development pipeline and more. If you have not yet received an invitation or would like more information about the event, please contact me via email. Speaker 100:02:30My e mail address can always be found at the bottom of our press releases. I will now introduce Pina Goldenberg, Chief Executive Officer of OrganiGram Holdings Inc. Please go ahead, Ms. Goldenberg. Speaker 200:02:41Thank you, Max. Good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining our call today and for your continued support of OrganiGram. Throughout fiscal 2023, with the dedication of our 1,000 employees across 3 facilities and our corporate head office, We demonstrated record breaking international sales for the company, introduced award winning products, completed extensive efficiency driving CapEx projects and expanded our market share in key growth categories, reaching the number 2 spot among LPs, all while maintaining our negligible debt position. We then started fiscal 2024 off on a strong footing, securing a $124,600,000 strategic investment from our dedicated partner, VAT, at a premium of over 100% to OrganiGram share price at the time of announcement. Speaker 200:03:31With this transformational deal now formally approved by shareholders and the first tranche of $41,500,000 now closed, OrganiGram will focus on delivering on its objective of being a global cannabis leader driven by geographic and product expansion backed by industry leading innovation. 2 thirds of the $124,600,000 investment will be used by OrganiGram to create a that will enable OrganiGram to apply its industry leading capabilities in products, brands and cultivation to new markets. We have identified geographic expansion as a strategic priority, and this opportunity presents the company with the capital to lay global foundations as emerging cannabis markets continue to see significant growth. We have seen tremendous interest from cannabis companies looking for partnership opportunities and growth capital. OrganiGram is now uniquely positioned to take advantage of these opportunities. Speaker 200:04:35OrganiGram continues to differentiate itself as a leader with its flagship facility in Moncton, which we believe is the largest indoor cannabis facility of its kind. With over 130 microclimate, 3 tiered grow rooms and in house lab testing, we could grow and test the multitude of cultivars and dial in their growing conditions without interrupting the growth cycles of our other popular strains. Our facility's unique characteristics recently enhanced by most of our $29,000,000 in efficiency driving CapEx projects completed last year presents several other advantages. The demand for flower in the international markets is growing, as is the competition for these markets, which makes providing novel and stable cultivars a priority. OrganiGram has the capability to quickly trial and test unique cultivars in controlled environments, allowing us to tailor our production to address the needs of key international partners. Speaker 200:05:32We recently completed our first shipment to Germany and we anticipate our 1st UK bound flower to ship out in the near term and we are also negotiating with additional partners in other jurisdictions. OrganiGram's position as a key export partner to cannabis distributors abroad is expected to be further enhanced by the EU GMP certification at the Mountain facility, which is expected later this year subject to the successful completion of an audit. OrganiGram has also began transitioning part of its garden to seed based production. Seed based production is the preferred method in mature agricultural markets as it produces more robust plants and is cheaper and faster to conduct on a large scale. We began this process in December 2023 and will provide updates on our progress in subsequent quarters. Speaker 200:06:24Moncton is also home to the Center of Excellence, the dedicated research and development facility where BAT and OrganiGram collaborate on product development and scientific research. In December 2023, OrganiGram was successful in validating molecular markers for powdery mildew resistance and validated assays related to terpene synthesis. Furthermore, pharmacokinetic studies relating to nanoemulsified ingestible formulas are now complete with results currently being compiled and analyzed. This will allow us to quantify the onset time and peak cannabinoid levels in the blood so we can substantiate these claims with consumers. Our R and D capabilities are beginning to more rapidly translate to technical know how that is expected to provide OrganiGram with competitive advantages for years to come, spanning from more robust plants to better consumer experiences backed by science and rigorous testing protocols. Speaker 200:07:21Now while our Moncton facility can supply our domestic and international markets with an annual capacity of approximately 90,000 kilograms per year, our facilities in Winnipeg and Lac Superior are also key elements of our ongoing Our dedicated edibles facility in Winnipeg is capable of producing over 4,000,000 gummies per month, Supporting OrganiGround's position at quarter end as the number 2 edibles producer in Canada with over 18% market share and the number one pure CBD edibles producer with almost 2 thirds of the market share in the segment. We are also very excited to introduce our nanoemulsion gummies to the market by the fall of 2024. Our newly expanded craft cannabis and Hash facility in Lac Superior has now completed 4 craft harvests and the facility is producing approximately 2,000,000 units of hash annually. According to internal models cross referenced with figures from BDSA, OrganiGram is the largest legal hash producer in the world and commands over 20% of the hash market in Canada as of the end of Q1. And in keeping with our core strength of innovation, We are pleased that our first to market rip strip hash innovation is performing well in the market and that we have successfully grown the hash category by bringing in new users with this flavorful and easy to use format. Speaker 200:08:47With our 3 facilities now fully expanded and equipped with substantial automation capabilities, OrganiGram is poised to more aggressively compete in the ready to consume product category as consumers are displaying a clear preference today for convenience and quality. In Q1 fiscal 2024, ready to consume products made up 46.5% of sales compared to 37% in the same period last year. In Q1 2024, OrganiGram produced and sold over 8,000,000 pre rolls. If you were to line up all these pre rules end to end, they would span the distance of approximately 7 80 kilometres. So essentially, we could light up a path from Toronto to New York City. Speaker 200:09:31The investments we made in our pre roll processes in fiscal 2023 And the ensuing ramp up have led to a 38% increase in tube style pre roll production run rate, 100% improvement in packaging throughput and 150% improvement in the rate that we produce are shred heavy. Our ability to consistently compete in a difficult cannabis landscape is a testament to OrganiGram's unwavering dedication to its consumer and its craft. In fiscal Q1 2024, OrganiGram was the top 3 LP in all major categories excluding vapes and a top 5 LP in market shares in all regions across Canada. We began the quarter in the number 2 position among LPs with a 6.7% market share and maintained this position while growing our market share to 7.3% in December. As of the end of Q1, OrganiGram maintained the number 2 market position among LPs for 5 consecutive months. Speaker 200:10:31And in December 2023, we had our strongest month ever with $33,500,000 in retail sales, driven by consumer receptiveness to innovation in tube style pre rolls, infused pre rolls and gummies. The reintroduction of Jolt was a large contributing factor to our success in the quarter as well with $2,900,000 in ship sales in Q1. One of our key domestic areas of focus for fiscal 2024 will be to increase our share of the vape category, which we believe will unlock market share gains. In support of this goal, OrganiGram has recently launched its new vaporization hardware resulting from a strategic investment in Green Tank, which is anticipated to increase flavor, performance and potency per puff, while decreasing clogging a major consumer pain point. Looking at our earnings for the quarter, which Greg will expand on shortly, We are pleased to deliver adjusted gross margins, which returned to our previously reported levels. Speaker 200:11:32We also delivered positive EBITDA and cash flow from operations of $7,700,000 Contributing to these improvements were our growth in the pre roll category and the reintroduction of to the market. As we focus on driving domestic and international market share gains through Continued innovation and expansion into Vapes, refining our products and geographic mix and reaping the benefits from increased automation at our facilities, We expect our margins to demonstrate more stability in fiscal 2024 compared to fiscal 2023. On a year over year basis, we both revenue and incremental margin growth. I will now hand the call over to Greg to review our financial performance for the quarter. Speaker 300:12:18Thank you, Bina. It's a pleasure to be here today as a new member of the OrganiGram team. I've been involved in the cannabis industry for many years Now and I've walked OrganiGram Growth leadership position in Canada. So I'm very pleased to join this incredibly focused and disciplined team I'm particularly pleased to join at such a pivotal time in the company's evolution. As Dina mentioned, we started off the quarter achieving positive adjusted EBITDA and positive cash flow from operations demonstrating our investments in automation and our commitment to long term efficiencies are beginning to pay off. Speaker 300:12:54Q1 fiscal 2024 gross and net revenue decreased by 8% 16%, respectively, primarily due to net decreases in international revenue of $4,800,000 and medical sales of $1,000,000 when compared to Q1 fiscal 2023. OrganiGram's cost of sales in Q1 fiscal 2024 was $27,300,000 compared to $31,600,000 in Q1 fiscal 2023, representing a decrease of 14%. The decrease in cost of sales over The same prior year period is primarily due to lower medical and international sales and lower cultivation and post harvest costs. Included in Q1 fiscal 2024's cost of sales were $1,700,000 of inventory provisions that primarily related to net realizable value adjustments of inventories. We harvested approximately 20,000 kilograms of flower during Q1 fiscal 2024 compared to about 22,000 kilograms in Q1 fiscal 2023, which represents a decrease of 11%. Speaker 300:13:59The decrease was primarily attributable to changes in our cultivar mix to address changing consumer preferences. While yields and THC content will fluctuate over time, the trend we have seen over the last 2 years has been larger yields and higher potencies. In Q1, OrganiGram experienced a 53% increase in flower produced containing more than 24% THC. Anticipated higher yields should reduce the cost of cultivation in the long run. As this flower is sold, we expect to achieve a higher gross margin rate. Speaker 300:14:33In Q1 fiscal 2024, adjusted gross margin increased to 31% or 11,200,000 up from 30% or $12,800,000 in Q1 fiscal 2023. The increase in the adjusted gross margin rate was primarily due to lower cultivation and post harvest costs, lower depreciation expense and resumed sales of Edison Jolt, partially offset by lower international sales. As Bina mentioned, in comparison to Q4 fiscal 2024, where adjusted gross margin was 17%, We achieved a marked improvement in adjusted gross margin in Q1. In Q1, SG and A increased to $16,700,000 compared to $15,700,000 in Q1 fiscal 2023 or an increase of 7%. The increase in expenses mainly relates to foreign exchange losses on foreign currency denominated receivables as the Canadian dollar weakened during Q1 fiscal 2023 and strengthened in Q1 fiscal 2024 and higher professional fees primarily related to Project Jupiter. Speaker 300:15:42These are partially offset by lower depreciation resulting from impairment charges recorded in fiscal year 2023. We are pleased to report that in the quarter, we returned to positive adjusted EBITDA of $136,000 compared to Q4 fiscal 2023's adjusted EBITDA of negative $2,400,000 representing an increase of EBITDA of negative $2,400,000 representing an increase of $2,500,000 We anticipate adjusted EBITDA to exceed fiscal 2023's adjusted EBITDA. Net loss for Q1 fiscal 2024 was 15,800,000 compared to net income of $5,300,000 in the same prior period. The increase in net loss from the comparative period primarily due to a lower gross margin resulting from a reduction in the gain on fair value of biological assets. From a statement of cash flow perspective, net cash provided by operating activities was $7,700,000 in Q1 fiscal 2024 compared to $3,500,000 in the prior year period. Speaker 300:16:42The increase in cash provided by operating activities primarily due to a return to historical working capital level after a planned reduction in accounts payable in advance of our ERP go live. Cash provided by investing activities in Q1 was $400,000 compared to cash used of $1,700,000 in Q1 fiscal 2023. The increase compared to the prior year period was primarily due to higher purchases of property, plant and equipment of $8,400,000 in Q1 fiscal 2023, Partially offset by proceeds from the net redemption of short term investments of $5,100,000 We are pleased to state we have one of the healthiest balance sheets in the space. As of December 31, 2023, we had a total cash position of $54,600,000 including both restricted and unrestricted cash. This does not include the $41,500,000 we received from BAT in January. Speaker 300:17:39By way of reminder, half of the $41,500,000 tranche will be allocated to OrganiGram's operating cash in Q2 fiscal 2024, while the other half will be allocated to Project Jupiter. Overall, we are pleased with our results for the quarter, which saw OrganiGram once again deliver positive adjusted EBITDA and improved adjusted gross margins. While the company expects to continue to report growth in year over year adjusted EBITDA, Periods when the company achieves significant increases to sales may result in increases to receivables, which could negatively impact cash from operating activities. This concludes my comments. I will now turn the call back to Bina. Speaker 200:18:20Thank you, Greg. As has been the case historically, OrganiGram will continue to drive growth and shareholder value through an industry leading focus on innovation and the integration of new technologies that provides sustainable competitive advantages for the company and differentiated experiences for consumers at home and abroad. We also continue to leverage our leadership position in the industry to advocate for much needed reform in the sector that will not only level the playing field for all companies, but also support the development and growth of a sustainable industry in the long term. We believe that the cannabis industry in Canada has begun to reach an inflection point that will remove supply from the market and accelerate consolidation. Companies engaging in THC inflation who have dubiously enjoyed temporary competitive advantages to artificially inflating their label THC content are facing more pressure as Health Canada and the OCS have announced random THC testing protocols. Speaker 200:19:22We have also seen the CRA begin to garnish companies who are in arrears on their excise taxes and many companies are already stretching their payables to preserve cash. As capital markets have dried up and increased enforcement removes unfair advantages and penalizes those who don't contribute to the health of our sector, the Canadian market will experience a shakeout. As this materializes, OrganiGram stands to cement itself As a long term industry leader owing to its strong balance sheet, increasing production efficiency, industry leading R and D and reinvigorated focus on international expansion supported by Project Jupiter. Once again, we thank you for joining us today for your continued support of OrganiGram during a very exciting time for the company. We look forward to seeing as many of you as possible at our Investor Day in April. Speaker 200:20:15And should you have any questions, please feel free to contact Max. Thank you. And I will now open the call for questions. Operator00:20:34Your first question comes from the line of Aaron Grey from Alliance Global Partners. Please go ahead. Your line is open. Speaker 400:20:43Hi, good morning and thank you very much for the questions. And I see the gross margin improvement during along with some of the other achievements you had. Quickly, on the gross margin, right, so a nice uptick in the quarter, you talked about Some of the levers that participated to that. So when you think about lower post harvest cost, depreciation along with some of the mix with Joel, What would have been the biggest contributor sequentially? It looks like if you back into some of the P and L might have been depreciation. Speaker 400:21:11If you could all Offer further color, that'd be greatly appreciated. And then on the go forward, how do we think about mix contributing to the margin, particularly as we think about vapes? Historically, it's been one of the more tougher formats to be profitable in. So if you could offer any color in terms of how you're thinking about margin and mix as you look to increase your share in vape? Thanks. Speaker 200:21:34Perfect. Thank you, Erin, for the question. I'll pass the first part of the question over to Greg to talk about the gross And then I'll take on the mix part of the question. So go ahead, Greg. Speaker 300:21:45Sure. Thanks, Dina. Well, first of all, we believe we've set ourselves up to drive higher margin throughout 2024 and beyond. And really, as you mentioned, it's an increasing production efficiencies from continuing to dial in our automated processes such as around our pre roll production and we're going to see expected eventual savings and higher yields related to the seed based transition as well. We're also going to see contribution from flower at Laurentian ultimately as well. Speaker 300:22:12And on the international side, it's really going to be driven by EU GMP, which will help improve our margins on that front. Also contributing, we'll have some new innovation, As we mentioned before around the nanoemulsion and further expansion into base. So as I said, I think those factors will continue to drive margin as we get through the rest of the year. Dina? Speaker 200:22:38Okay, great. Thanks, Greg. And just building on what Greg So when you asked Erin about the mix, and while vapes has been a competitive market in the past, For us, Vates is a big opportunity for improved mix because we're competing in the flower set that has the slimmest of margins. And so this is a great opportunity for us and totally incremental. We're not cannibalizing an existing business. Speaker 200:23:06We come in with products that is differentiated with our Green Bank investment being in the vaporization technology. So we're very excited about what that could contribute. But just as I mentioned in the script, at the end of the day, Our ready to consume products are growing and that's what's driving the growth in the category versus just flower, Right? It's all about convenience as consumers are looking for it. So as we convert from flower to pre rolls, as we convert people from pre rolls to vapes and to gummies to some of the derivatives. Speaker 200:23:42That's the mix that's going to improve our domestic recreational business. And then obviously the impact of international sales. We had a low international sales in this quarter And we expect to have growing international sales as we look out, especially as a result of adding the EU GMP benefit that we expect to have sometime this summer. So at the end of the day, that's what's going to drive our improved mix. We're still very proud of our flower categories, but the category overall industry is changing And ready to consume is becoming a bigger part of it and we're participating in both gummies infused pre rolls and pre rolls in a big way. Speaker 400:24:28Thank you. Really appreciate that color from both you, Greg and Bina. Second question for me. Often in the industry, we've talked about the need For a shakeout, you talked about in your prepared remarks, one of the issues that you had called out a few quarters ago, as being A greater need in terms of THC inflation and now there's some THC testing protocols that you mentioned, unpaid taxes or something that was known about in the industry and you also called out how Those might be being cut down as well. And basically, it seemed that you might have a you had somewhat of a different tone in terms of shakeout maybe being more on the doorstep than maybe we had seen in the past. Speaker 400:25:05So just any more color you can offer in terms of what you might be seeing incrementally you mentioned in the prepared remarks to why might see more of a shakeout in the industry in 2024 than what we might have expected to see in past years, but didn't quite come to fruition. Thank you. Speaker 200:25:20Yes, no problem. So absolutely, we were a big we talked a lot about THC inflation And I'm not sure we've seen the full impact of the benefits of both the OCS random testing and Health Canada testing because we still see THC inflation is alive and well out in the market. We actually see that flower Over 25% THC has been up versus last year. It's now represents 77% of all flower sales, Where a year ago, it was up 42%. So it was 42% of the flower. Speaker 200:26:01So we are seeing continued higher THC. And we are still seeing Brandon testing showing that there are several players out there continuing to identify their THC flower as higher potency than it really is. But we expect this is going to somehow start to stop as Testing continues and the boards are challenging. We heard anecdotally some boards are pushing back on over 30% flower and asking for secondary testing. So that is going to take time to kind of happen through the industry, but We're excited to see that it's starting to be addressed. Speaker 200:26:44But why do I think the consolidation or the shakeout is going to happen? And I think it's in the next 12 months. And that's because we've been watching very carefully the cash of different companies When the debt is due that how people are stretching their payables and what was giving some of these players in the 3, more runway was the ability to not pay their excise taxes. This really wasn't a fair playing field. A company like OrganiGram paid our excise taxes on time. Speaker 200:27:19But there were stories up to 80% of cannabis companies out there were not paying their excise taxes on time or in some cases not paying them at all. And what is new news and we saw a little bit of this last year where the CRA went in to a couple of LPs last year, couldn't see any hope of getting their excise duties repaid and closed them down. But what's Really the new news that we started to hear at the start of this calendar year is that the CRA has started to ask the provinces to garnish their payments to the LPs so that, for their amounts owing in arrears excise taxes. What this means is, companies that were planning to leverage that money are going to have that opportunity going forward. I think this is going to be the real change that we're going to see in the next 6 to 12 months, where that with that cash not being available. Speaker 200:28:18And of course, the boards aren't happy about having to do this work and might even choose to stop ordering as much from those LPs. I think This is going to be the dynamic change that accelerates that shakeout. I mean, we all talked about the fact that it needs to happen. We're too fragmented an industry. We're proud to be the number 2 LP, but with 7.3% market share at the end of December, it's still a very small market share compared to what a normal mature category would have. Speaker 200:28:49So this is necessary and we do think it's coming. Speaker 400:28:53Thank you. Really helpful color there on your view of the market. So really appreciate it. I'll jump back in the queue. Operator00:28:58Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of Federico Gomes from ATB Capital Markets. Please go ahead. Speaker 500:29:08Hi, good morning. Thank you for taking my questions. My first question is just on your first shipment to Germany. I'm just curious about your expectations for that market given the potential growth happening Soon there in terms of legalization and also in terms of your EU GMP certification, can you just maybe provide a little bit more color on exactly how does that impact For international exports? Thank you. Speaker 200:29:37Sure. So first about our German shipment. So, we had announced the agreement with the Sanity Group a while ago. And as we work through the appropriate stability testing and regulatory requirements, We're excited that we finally got our first shipment out into the German market. And as you said, with the recent ruling that They're going to remove cannabis from the narcotics, identified as a narcotic. Speaker 200:30:07It will open up the medical market. It's anticipated On the conservative side that the medical market will grow 2 to 3 times this year. So we're very excited about the opportunity to increase our shipments to our partner now in Germany. And so yes, Germany might not be as exciting as it was about a year ago when everybody thought was coming. But just like Canada evolves, we're going to get into Growing medical market first and they're testing pilot facilities and pilots on rack and we'll see where that goes. Speaker 200:30:42But we're still very interested in the German market as a result of that. And then your second question around our EU GMP facility EU GMP certification. So we have gone through the work to get ourselves ready for the audit. How it works with an EU GMP certification is you have to get somebody over from a European jurisdiction to come in and do the audit. So it's a little bit difficult to confirm exactly when that will be scheduled. Speaker 200:31:18But we've done our homework. We believe we're audit ready and are just waiting for that, for that auditor to come over. What this will mean to us once we get certified is that instead of having to move our GACP flower through A facility such as in Portugal or, one of these converters who would then package it up available for European market, we'd be able to ship directly. In the case of Australia, having GMP would allow us to package our product and ship it to Australia rather than selling bulk product. And in both of these cases, It would be higher margin business for us without requiring a middleman touching the product. Speaker 200:32:06So we're very excited about opening up more markets available to us with the EU GMP and the ability to take out the middleman by shipping direct. Speaker 500:32:18Thank you for the color. That's great. Thank you, Bina. So my next question is just, I think the U. S. Speaker 500:32:25Market, you have always said that you're looking at it and you think it's a potential long term opportunity. We recently saw A competitor of yours that appears to be approaching a structure that would be compliant with the NASDAQ to get no plant touching exposure there. So I'm just curious If you would consider pursuing something similar, how do you look at it, given that you're also not at least it? Thank you. Speaker 200:32:51Yes. Thanks, Brad. So first of all, we did our first investment in the U. S. Last year in May when we invested in Filos Bioscience. Speaker 200:33:01And so we did take some time to figure out how to set up the structure in a way that would be obviously compliant with our NASDAQ and TSX listing. And at the same time have some benefit to our organization And that's where we were able to access the high concentration of THCB flower as well as the seeds to allow us to move into seed based production. So it was an investment in the U. S. And although you can't consolidate, it was there was benefit to our existing business. Speaker 200:33:39So we will look at the U. S. For sure with Project Jupiter, as well as other emerging markets, but the U. S. Will be a focus. Speaker 200:33:48And I could comfortably say that, we've received many inbounds. There's a high interest because There's a lot of companies that are capital constrained. So, we're actively looking and we are going to explore any of these tested instruments that we've seen other people use around how to get a compliant structure. But at the end of the day, look, We're looking at several verticals. So if we're looking at investing in MSOs, SSOs or even brand plays, We recognize those are more difficult to structure and those will probably take us a little bit longer. Speaker 200:34:30Where we expect that there'll be An easier approach in the short term would be IP focused opportunities and hemp derived THC see plays that we could consolidate and that can have a direct impact on us. So we're already in conversations today with certain And we're excited about the opportunity. But again, we'll watch how other companies structure compliantly and learn from that. We don't have to reinvent the wheel and we're excited about these opportunities going forward. Speaker 500:35:05Thank you very much. I'll hop back, Nikky. Thank you. Operator00:35:15Your next question comes from the line of Yiwan Kang from Canaccord Genuity. Please go ahead. Speaker 600:35:22Hi there. Good morning. Thank you for taking my question. This is Yewon Kim on for Matt Bottomley. So I just wanted to ask a question about the international strategic investment arm that you guys are trying to set up right now. Speaker 600:35:38I wanted to ask if those initial expectations in terms of where you guys wanted to deploy that capital has changed at all in the past few months, just because one of your peers recently announced that they're going to be acquiring a medical cannabis in Australia and this has been a market that has been ramping up quite a bit and seems that a lot of Canadian LPs are taking interest in that market. So just wanted to see if any of your expectations have kind of gone away from U. S. Focused into more international focus? Thanks. Speaker 200:36:14Thank you for your question. So when we've announced when we originally announced Project Jupiter, we did say We would have a strong focus on the U. S, but we also left room for international markets. And we are interested in exploring markets like Germany and markets like Australia. Obviously, we ship our export business to both Australia and we just shipped to Germany and we expect to actually ship any time now to the UK. Speaker 200:36:44So there are other markets that are interesting And those markets will allow us to have a more direct impact on our business versus the U. S. So there's going to be a balancing approach. We will do some investments in some of those other markets and we'll see what are the best opportunities for us that meet our long term strategic goals, but a good chunk of the Jupiter investment will happen in the U. S. Speaker 200:37:11Because that is an opportunity for the future that we want to set ourselves up for. So, yes, we'll look at Australia and we'll look at Germany And we'll see what the right opportunities are. And hopefully, we'll have news to share in the next few months. Speaker 600:37:32Thank you for the color. I'll jump back into the queue. Operator00:37:37We have no further questions in our queue at this time. I will now turn the call back to management for closing remarks. Speaker 200:37:44Well, thank you everybody for joining the call today. As I could tell, there's a lot of interest in our next steps on our Jupiter investment pool and we're equally excited about this next stage of OrganiGram's evolution And we continue to be proud of the work we do every day in the domestic market in Canada. So with that, I'll close out today's call and look forward to updating you soon on our Q2. 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There are 7 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good morning. My name is Christa, and I'll be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the OrganiGram Holdings First Quarter Fiscal 20 24 Earnings Conference Call. After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question and answer session. Thank you. Operator00:00:27Max Schwartz, you may begin your conference. Speaker 100:00:31Good morning and thank you for joining us today. As a reminder, this call is being recorded and the recording will be available on OrganiM's website 24 hours after today's call. Listeners should be aware that today's call will include estimates forward looking information from which the company's actual results could differ. Please review the cautionary language in our press release dated February 13, 2024 on various factors, assumptions and risks that could cause our actual results to differ. Further reference will be made to certain non IFRS measures during this call, including adjusted EBITDA, free cash flow and adjusted gross margin, among others. Speaker 100:01:03These measures do not have any standardized meaning under IFRS and are intended to provide additional information and as such should not be considered in isolation or as a substitute for measures of performance prepared in accordance with IFRS. Our approach to calculating these measures may differ from other issuers, so these measures not be directly comparable. Please see today's earnings report for more information about these measures. In this call, references to fiscal 2023 are just month period for September 1, 2022, produced September 30, 2023. Listeners should also be aware that the company relies on reputable third party providers on certain statements relating to market share data. Speaker 100:01:39Unless otherwise indicated, all references to market data are sourced from High Fire in combination with data from we call our potential boards, retailers and our internal sales figures. Today, we'll be hearing from key members of our senior leadership team, beginning with Bina Goldenberg, Chief Executive Officer, who will provide opening remarks and commentary followed by Greg Gouyette, Chief Financial Officer, who will review our quarterly financial results for Q1 fiscal 2024. Also joining us for the question and answer segment is Tim Embroek, Chief Commercial Officer. As a reminder to our analysts and institutional investors on the call today, we are pleased to invite you to join us at our Investor Day at Moncton, New Brunswick facility on the evening of April 9 for dinner and the morning of April 10, where we will offer a tour of our flagship facility and showcase our science backed product development pipeline and more. If you have not yet received an invitation or would like more information about the event, please contact me via email. Speaker 100:02:30My e mail address can always be found at the bottom of our press releases. I will now introduce Pina Goldenberg, Chief Executive Officer of OrganiGram Holdings Inc. Please go ahead, Ms. Goldenberg. Speaker 200:02:41Thank you, Max. Good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining our call today and for your continued support of OrganiGram. Throughout fiscal 2023, with the dedication of our 1,000 employees across 3 facilities and our corporate head office, We demonstrated record breaking international sales for the company, introduced award winning products, completed extensive efficiency driving CapEx projects and expanded our market share in key growth categories, reaching the number 2 spot among LPs, all while maintaining our negligible debt position. We then started fiscal 2024 off on a strong footing, securing a $124,600,000 strategic investment from our dedicated partner, VAT, at a premium of over 100% to OrganiGram share price at the time of announcement. Speaker 200:03:31With this transformational deal now formally approved by shareholders and the first tranche of $41,500,000 now closed, OrganiGram will focus on delivering on its objective of being a global cannabis leader driven by geographic and product expansion backed by industry leading innovation. 2 thirds of the $124,600,000 investment will be used by OrganiGram to create a that will enable OrganiGram to apply its industry leading capabilities in products, brands and cultivation to new markets. We have identified geographic expansion as a strategic priority, and this opportunity presents the company with the capital to lay global foundations as emerging cannabis markets continue to see significant growth. We have seen tremendous interest from cannabis companies looking for partnership opportunities and growth capital. OrganiGram is now uniquely positioned to take advantage of these opportunities. Speaker 200:04:35OrganiGram continues to differentiate itself as a leader with its flagship facility in Moncton, which we believe is the largest indoor cannabis facility of its kind. With over 130 microclimate, 3 tiered grow rooms and in house lab testing, we could grow and test the multitude of cultivars and dial in their growing conditions without interrupting the growth cycles of our other popular strains. Our facility's unique characteristics recently enhanced by most of our $29,000,000 in efficiency driving CapEx projects completed last year presents several other advantages. The demand for flower in the international markets is growing, as is the competition for these markets, which makes providing novel and stable cultivars a priority. OrganiGram has the capability to quickly trial and test unique cultivars in controlled environments, allowing us to tailor our production to address the needs of key international partners. Speaker 200:05:32We recently completed our first shipment to Germany and we anticipate our 1st UK bound flower to ship out in the near term and we are also negotiating with additional partners in other jurisdictions. OrganiGram's position as a key export partner to cannabis distributors abroad is expected to be further enhanced by the EU GMP certification at the Mountain facility, which is expected later this year subject to the successful completion of an audit. OrganiGram has also began transitioning part of its garden to seed based production. Seed based production is the preferred method in mature agricultural markets as it produces more robust plants and is cheaper and faster to conduct on a large scale. We began this process in December 2023 and will provide updates on our progress in subsequent quarters. Speaker 200:06:24Moncton is also home to the Center of Excellence, the dedicated research and development facility where BAT and OrganiGram collaborate on product development and scientific research. In December 2023, OrganiGram was successful in validating molecular markers for powdery mildew resistance and validated assays related to terpene synthesis. Furthermore, pharmacokinetic studies relating to nanoemulsified ingestible formulas are now complete with results currently being compiled and analyzed. This will allow us to quantify the onset time and peak cannabinoid levels in the blood so we can substantiate these claims with consumers. Our R and D capabilities are beginning to more rapidly translate to technical know how that is expected to provide OrganiGram with competitive advantages for years to come, spanning from more robust plants to better consumer experiences backed by science and rigorous testing protocols. Speaker 200:07:21Now while our Moncton facility can supply our domestic and international markets with an annual capacity of approximately 90,000 kilograms per year, our facilities in Winnipeg and Lac Superior are also key elements of our ongoing Our dedicated edibles facility in Winnipeg is capable of producing over 4,000,000 gummies per month, Supporting OrganiGround's position at quarter end as the number 2 edibles producer in Canada with over 18% market share and the number one pure CBD edibles producer with almost 2 thirds of the market share in the segment. We are also very excited to introduce our nanoemulsion gummies to the market by the fall of 2024. Our newly expanded craft cannabis and Hash facility in Lac Superior has now completed 4 craft harvests and the facility is producing approximately 2,000,000 units of hash annually. According to internal models cross referenced with figures from BDSA, OrganiGram is the largest legal hash producer in the world and commands over 20% of the hash market in Canada as of the end of Q1. And in keeping with our core strength of innovation, We are pleased that our first to market rip strip hash innovation is performing well in the market and that we have successfully grown the hash category by bringing in new users with this flavorful and easy to use format. Speaker 200:08:47With our 3 facilities now fully expanded and equipped with substantial automation capabilities, OrganiGram is poised to more aggressively compete in the ready to consume product category as consumers are displaying a clear preference today for convenience and quality. In Q1 fiscal 2024, ready to consume products made up 46.5% of sales compared to 37% in the same period last year. In Q1 2024, OrganiGram produced and sold over 8,000,000 pre rolls. If you were to line up all these pre rules end to end, they would span the distance of approximately 7 80 kilometres. So essentially, we could light up a path from Toronto to New York City. Speaker 200:09:31The investments we made in our pre roll processes in fiscal 2023 And the ensuing ramp up have led to a 38% increase in tube style pre roll production run rate, 100% improvement in packaging throughput and 150% improvement in the rate that we produce are shred heavy. Our ability to consistently compete in a difficult cannabis landscape is a testament to OrganiGram's unwavering dedication to its consumer and its craft. In fiscal Q1 2024, OrganiGram was the top 3 LP in all major categories excluding vapes and a top 5 LP in market shares in all regions across Canada. We began the quarter in the number 2 position among LPs with a 6.7% market share and maintained this position while growing our market share to 7.3% in December. As of the end of Q1, OrganiGram maintained the number 2 market position among LPs for 5 consecutive months. Speaker 200:10:31And in December 2023, we had our strongest month ever with $33,500,000 in retail sales, driven by consumer receptiveness to innovation in tube style pre rolls, infused pre rolls and gummies. The reintroduction of Jolt was a large contributing factor to our success in the quarter as well with $2,900,000 in ship sales in Q1. One of our key domestic areas of focus for fiscal 2024 will be to increase our share of the vape category, which we believe will unlock market share gains. In support of this goal, OrganiGram has recently launched its new vaporization hardware resulting from a strategic investment in Green Tank, which is anticipated to increase flavor, performance and potency per puff, while decreasing clogging a major consumer pain point. Looking at our earnings for the quarter, which Greg will expand on shortly, We are pleased to deliver adjusted gross margins, which returned to our previously reported levels. Speaker 200:11:32We also delivered positive EBITDA and cash flow from operations of $7,700,000 Contributing to these improvements were our growth in the pre roll category and the reintroduction of to the market. As we focus on driving domestic and international market share gains through Continued innovation and expansion into Vapes, refining our products and geographic mix and reaping the benefits from increased automation at our facilities, We expect our margins to demonstrate more stability in fiscal 2024 compared to fiscal 2023. On a year over year basis, we both revenue and incremental margin growth. I will now hand the call over to Greg to review our financial performance for the quarter. Speaker 300:12:18Thank you, Bina. It's a pleasure to be here today as a new member of the OrganiGram team. I've been involved in the cannabis industry for many years Now and I've walked OrganiGram Growth leadership position in Canada. So I'm very pleased to join this incredibly focused and disciplined team I'm particularly pleased to join at such a pivotal time in the company's evolution. As Dina mentioned, we started off the quarter achieving positive adjusted EBITDA and positive cash flow from operations demonstrating our investments in automation and our commitment to long term efficiencies are beginning to pay off. Speaker 300:12:54Q1 fiscal 2024 gross and net revenue decreased by 8% 16%, respectively, primarily due to net decreases in international revenue of $4,800,000 and medical sales of $1,000,000 when compared to Q1 fiscal 2023. OrganiGram's cost of sales in Q1 fiscal 2024 was $27,300,000 compared to $31,600,000 in Q1 fiscal 2023, representing a decrease of 14%. The decrease in cost of sales over The same prior year period is primarily due to lower medical and international sales and lower cultivation and post harvest costs. Included in Q1 fiscal 2024's cost of sales were $1,700,000 of inventory provisions that primarily related to net realizable value adjustments of inventories. We harvested approximately 20,000 kilograms of flower during Q1 fiscal 2024 compared to about 22,000 kilograms in Q1 fiscal 2023, which represents a decrease of 11%. Speaker 300:13:59The decrease was primarily attributable to changes in our cultivar mix to address changing consumer preferences. While yields and THC content will fluctuate over time, the trend we have seen over the last 2 years has been larger yields and higher potencies. In Q1, OrganiGram experienced a 53% increase in flower produced containing more than 24% THC. Anticipated higher yields should reduce the cost of cultivation in the long run. As this flower is sold, we expect to achieve a higher gross margin rate. Speaker 300:14:33In Q1 fiscal 2024, adjusted gross margin increased to 31% or 11,200,000 up from 30% or $12,800,000 in Q1 fiscal 2023. The increase in the adjusted gross margin rate was primarily due to lower cultivation and post harvest costs, lower depreciation expense and resumed sales of Edison Jolt, partially offset by lower international sales. As Bina mentioned, in comparison to Q4 fiscal 2024, where adjusted gross margin was 17%, We achieved a marked improvement in adjusted gross margin in Q1. In Q1, SG and A increased to $16,700,000 compared to $15,700,000 in Q1 fiscal 2023 or an increase of 7%. The increase in expenses mainly relates to foreign exchange losses on foreign currency denominated receivables as the Canadian dollar weakened during Q1 fiscal 2023 and strengthened in Q1 fiscal 2024 and higher professional fees primarily related to Project Jupiter. Speaker 300:15:42These are partially offset by lower depreciation resulting from impairment charges recorded in fiscal year 2023. We are pleased to report that in the quarter, we returned to positive adjusted EBITDA of $136,000 compared to Q4 fiscal 2023's adjusted EBITDA of negative $2,400,000 representing an increase of EBITDA of negative $2,400,000 representing an increase of $2,500,000 We anticipate adjusted EBITDA to exceed fiscal 2023's adjusted EBITDA. Net loss for Q1 fiscal 2024 was 15,800,000 compared to net income of $5,300,000 in the same prior period. The increase in net loss from the comparative period primarily due to a lower gross margin resulting from a reduction in the gain on fair value of biological assets. From a statement of cash flow perspective, net cash provided by operating activities was $7,700,000 in Q1 fiscal 2024 compared to $3,500,000 in the prior year period. Speaker 300:16:42The increase in cash provided by operating activities primarily due to a return to historical working capital level after a planned reduction in accounts payable in advance of our ERP go live. Cash provided by investing activities in Q1 was $400,000 compared to cash used of $1,700,000 in Q1 fiscal 2023. The increase compared to the prior year period was primarily due to higher purchases of property, plant and equipment of $8,400,000 in Q1 fiscal 2023, Partially offset by proceeds from the net redemption of short term investments of $5,100,000 We are pleased to state we have one of the healthiest balance sheets in the space. As of December 31, 2023, we had a total cash position of $54,600,000 including both restricted and unrestricted cash. This does not include the $41,500,000 we received from BAT in January. Speaker 300:17:39By way of reminder, half of the $41,500,000 tranche will be allocated to OrganiGram's operating cash in Q2 fiscal 2024, while the other half will be allocated to Project Jupiter. Overall, we are pleased with our results for the quarter, which saw OrganiGram once again deliver positive adjusted EBITDA and improved adjusted gross margins. While the company expects to continue to report growth in year over year adjusted EBITDA, Periods when the company achieves significant increases to sales may result in increases to receivables, which could negatively impact cash from operating activities. This concludes my comments. I will now turn the call back to Bina. Speaker 200:18:20Thank you, Greg. As has been the case historically, OrganiGram will continue to drive growth and shareholder value through an industry leading focus on innovation and the integration of new technologies that provides sustainable competitive advantages for the company and differentiated experiences for consumers at home and abroad. We also continue to leverage our leadership position in the industry to advocate for much needed reform in the sector that will not only level the playing field for all companies, but also support the development and growth of a sustainable industry in the long term. We believe that the cannabis industry in Canada has begun to reach an inflection point that will remove supply from the market and accelerate consolidation. Companies engaging in THC inflation who have dubiously enjoyed temporary competitive advantages to artificially inflating their label THC content are facing more pressure as Health Canada and the OCS have announced random THC testing protocols. Speaker 200:19:22We have also seen the CRA begin to garnish companies who are in arrears on their excise taxes and many companies are already stretching their payables to preserve cash. As capital markets have dried up and increased enforcement removes unfair advantages and penalizes those who don't contribute to the health of our sector, the Canadian market will experience a shakeout. As this materializes, OrganiGram stands to cement itself As a long term industry leader owing to its strong balance sheet, increasing production efficiency, industry leading R and D and reinvigorated focus on international expansion supported by Project Jupiter. Once again, we thank you for joining us today for your continued support of OrganiGram during a very exciting time for the company. We look forward to seeing as many of you as possible at our Investor Day in April. Speaker 200:20:15And should you have any questions, please feel free to contact Max. Thank you. And I will now open the call for questions. Operator00:20:34Your first question comes from the line of Aaron Grey from Alliance Global Partners. Please go ahead. Your line is open. Speaker 400:20:43Hi, good morning and thank you very much for the questions. And I see the gross margin improvement during along with some of the other achievements you had. Quickly, on the gross margin, right, so a nice uptick in the quarter, you talked about Some of the levers that participated to that. So when you think about lower post harvest cost, depreciation along with some of the mix with Joel, What would have been the biggest contributor sequentially? It looks like if you back into some of the P and L might have been depreciation. Speaker 400:21:11If you could all Offer further color, that'd be greatly appreciated. And then on the go forward, how do we think about mix contributing to the margin, particularly as we think about vapes? Historically, it's been one of the more tougher formats to be profitable in. So if you could offer any color in terms of how you're thinking about margin and mix as you look to increase your share in vape? Thanks. Speaker 200:21:34Perfect. Thank you, Erin, for the question. I'll pass the first part of the question over to Greg to talk about the gross And then I'll take on the mix part of the question. So go ahead, Greg. Speaker 300:21:45Sure. Thanks, Dina. Well, first of all, we believe we've set ourselves up to drive higher margin throughout 2024 and beyond. And really, as you mentioned, it's an increasing production efficiencies from continuing to dial in our automated processes such as around our pre roll production and we're going to see expected eventual savings and higher yields related to the seed based transition as well. We're also going to see contribution from flower at Laurentian ultimately as well. Speaker 300:22:12And on the international side, it's really going to be driven by EU GMP, which will help improve our margins on that front. Also contributing, we'll have some new innovation, As we mentioned before around the nanoemulsion and further expansion into base. So as I said, I think those factors will continue to drive margin as we get through the rest of the year. Dina? Speaker 200:22:38Okay, great. Thanks, Greg. And just building on what Greg So when you asked Erin about the mix, and while vapes has been a competitive market in the past, For us, Vates is a big opportunity for improved mix because we're competing in the flower set that has the slimmest of margins. And so this is a great opportunity for us and totally incremental. We're not cannibalizing an existing business. Speaker 200:23:06We come in with products that is differentiated with our Green Bank investment being in the vaporization technology. So we're very excited about what that could contribute. But just as I mentioned in the script, at the end of the day, Our ready to consume products are growing and that's what's driving the growth in the category versus just flower, Right? It's all about convenience as consumers are looking for it. So as we convert from flower to pre rolls, as we convert people from pre rolls to vapes and to gummies to some of the derivatives. Speaker 200:23:42That's the mix that's going to improve our domestic recreational business. And then obviously the impact of international sales. We had a low international sales in this quarter And we expect to have growing international sales as we look out, especially as a result of adding the EU GMP benefit that we expect to have sometime this summer. So at the end of the day, that's what's going to drive our improved mix. We're still very proud of our flower categories, but the category overall industry is changing And ready to consume is becoming a bigger part of it and we're participating in both gummies infused pre rolls and pre rolls in a big way. Speaker 400:24:28Thank you. Really appreciate that color from both you, Greg and Bina. Second question for me. Often in the industry, we've talked about the need For a shakeout, you talked about in your prepared remarks, one of the issues that you had called out a few quarters ago, as being A greater need in terms of THC inflation and now there's some THC testing protocols that you mentioned, unpaid taxes or something that was known about in the industry and you also called out how Those might be being cut down as well. And basically, it seemed that you might have a you had somewhat of a different tone in terms of shakeout maybe being more on the doorstep than maybe we had seen in the past. Speaker 400:25:05So just any more color you can offer in terms of what you might be seeing incrementally you mentioned in the prepared remarks to why might see more of a shakeout in the industry in 2024 than what we might have expected to see in past years, but didn't quite come to fruition. Thank you. Speaker 200:25:20Yes, no problem. So absolutely, we were a big we talked a lot about THC inflation And I'm not sure we've seen the full impact of the benefits of both the OCS random testing and Health Canada testing because we still see THC inflation is alive and well out in the market. We actually see that flower Over 25% THC has been up versus last year. It's now represents 77% of all flower sales, Where a year ago, it was up 42%. So it was 42% of the flower. Speaker 200:26:01So we are seeing continued higher THC. And we are still seeing Brandon testing showing that there are several players out there continuing to identify their THC flower as higher potency than it really is. But we expect this is going to somehow start to stop as Testing continues and the boards are challenging. We heard anecdotally some boards are pushing back on over 30% flower and asking for secondary testing. So that is going to take time to kind of happen through the industry, but We're excited to see that it's starting to be addressed. Speaker 200:26:44But why do I think the consolidation or the shakeout is going to happen? And I think it's in the next 12 months. And that's because we've been watching very carefully the cash of different companies When the debt is due that how people are stretching their payables and what was giving some of these players in the 3, more runway was the ability to not pay their excise taxes. This really wasn't a fair playing field. A company like OrganiGram paid our excise taxes on time. Speaker 200:27:19But there were stories up to 80% of cannabis companies out there were not paying their excise taxes on time or in some cases not paying them at all. And what is new news and we saw a little bit of this last year where the CRA went in to a couple of LPs last year, couldn't see any hope of getting their excise duties repaid and closed them down. But what's Really the new news that we started to hear at the start of this calendar year is that the CRA has started to ask the provinces to garnish their payments to the LPs so that, for their amounts owing in arrears excise taxes. What this means is, companies that were planning to leverage that money are going to have that opportunity going forward. I think this is going to be the real change that we're going to see in the next 6 to 12 months, where that with that cash not being available. Speaker 200:28:18And of course, the boards aren't happy about having to do this work and might even choose to stop ordering as much from those LPs. I think This is going to be the dynamic change that accelerates that shakeout. I mean, we all talked about the fact that it needs to happen. We're too fragmented an industry. We're proud to be the number 2 LP, but with 7.3% market share at the end of December, it's still a very small market share compared to what a normal mature category would have. Speaker 200:28:49So this is necessary and we do think it's coming. Speaker 400:28:53Thank you. Really helpful color there on your view of the market. So really appreciate it. I'll jump back in the queue. Operator00:28:58Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of Federico Gomes from ATB Capital Markets. Please go ahead. Speaker 500:29:08Hi, good morning. Thank you for taking my questions. My first question is just on your first shipment to Germany. I'm just curious about your expectations for that market given the potential growth happening Soon there in terms of legalization and also in terms of your EU GMP certification, can you just maybe provide a little bit more color on exactly how does that impact For international exports? Thank you. Speaker 200:29:37Sure. So first about our German shipment. So, we had announced the agreement with the Sanity Group a while ago. And as we work through the appropriate stability testing and regulatory requirements, We're excited that we finally got our first shipment out into the German market. And as you said, with the recent ruling that They're going to remove cannabis from the narcotics, identified as a narcotic. Speaker 200:30:07It will open up the medical market. It's anticipated On the conservative side that the medical market will grow 2 to 3 times this year. So we're very excited about the opportunity to increase our shipments to our partner now in Germany. And so yes, Germany might not be as exciting as it was about a year ago when everybody thought was coming. But just like Canada evolves, we're going to get into Growing medical market first and they're testing pilot facilities and pilots on rack and we'll see where that goes. Speaker 200:30:42But we're still very interested in the German market as a result of that. And then your second question around our EU GMP facility EU GMP certification. So we have gone through the work to get ourselves ready for the audit. How it works with an EU GMP certification is you have to get somebody over from a European jurisdiction to come in and do the audit. So it's a little bit difficult to confirm exactly when that will be scheduled. Speaker 200:31:18But we've done our homework. We believe we're audit ready and are just waiting for that, for that auditor to come over. What this will mean to us once we get certified is that instead of having to move our GACP flower through A facility such as in Portugal or, one of these converters who would then package it up available for European market, we'd be able to ship directly. In the case of Australia, having GMP would allow us to package our product and ship it to Australia rather than selling bulk product. And in both of these cases, It would be higher margin business for us without requiring a middleman touching the product. Speaker 200:32:06So we're very excited about opening up more markets available to us with the EU GMP and the ability to take out the middleman by shipping direct. Speaker 500:32:18Thank you for the color. That's great. Thank you, Bina. So my next question is just, I think the U. S. Speaker 500:32:25Market, you have always said that you're looking at it and you think it's a potential long term opportunity. We recently saw A competitor of yours that appears to be approaching a structure that would be compliant with the NASDAQ to get no plant touching exposure there. So I'm just curious If you would consider pursuing something similar, how do you look at it, given that you're also not at least it? Thank you. Speaker 200:32:51Yes. Thanks, Brad. So first of all, we did our first investment in the U. S. Last year in May when we invested in Filos Bioscience. Speaker 200:33:01And so we did take some time to figure out how to set up the structure in a way that would be obviously compliant with our NASDAQ and TSX listing. And at the same time have some benefit to our organization And that's where we were able to access the high concentration of THCB flower as well as the seeds to allow us to move into seed based production. So it was an investment in the U. S. And although you can't consolidate, it was there was benefit to our existing business. Speaker 200:33:39So we will look at the U. S. For sure with Project Jupiter, as well as other emerging markets, but the U. S. Will be a focus. Speaker 200:33:48And I could comfortably say that, we've received many inbounds. There's a high interest because There's a lot of companies that are capital constrained. So, we're actively looking and we are going to explore any of these tested instruments that we've seen other people use around how to get a compliant structure. But at the end of the day, look, We're looking at several verticals. So if we're looking at investing in MSOs, SSOs or even brand plays, We recognize those are more difficult to structure and those will probably take us a little bit longer. Speaker 200:34:30Where we expect that there'll be An easier approach in the short term would be IP focused opportunities and hemp derived THC see plays that we could consolidate and that can have a direct impact on us. So we're already in conversations today with certain And we're excited about the opportunity. But again, we'll watch how other companies structure compliantly and learn from that. We don't have to reinvent the wheel and we're excited about these opportunities going forward. Speaker 500:35:05Thank you very much. I'll hop back, Nikky. Thank you. Operator00:35:15Your next question comes from the line of Yiwan Kang from Canaccord Genuity. Please go ahead. Speaker 600:35:22Hi there. Good morning. Thank you for taking my question. This is Yewon Kim on for Matt Bottomley. So I just wanted to ask a question about the international strategic investment arm that you guys are trying to set up right now. Speaker 600:35:38I wanted to ask if those initial expectations in terms of where you guys wanted to deploy that capital has changed at all in the past few months, just because one of your peers recently announced that they're going to be acquiring a medical cannabis in Australia and this has been a market that has been ramping up quite a bit and seems that a lot of Canadian LPs are taking interest in that market. So just wanted to see if any of your expectations have kind of gone away from U. S. Focused into more international focus? Thanks. Speaker 200:36:14Thank you for your question. So when we've announced when we originally announced Project Jupiter, we did say We would have a strong focus on the U. S, but we also left room for international markets. And we are interested in exploring markets like Germany and markets like Australia. Obviously, we ship our export business to both Australia and we just shipped to Germany and we expect to actually ship any time now to the UK. Speaker 200:36:44So there are other markets that are interesting And those markets will allow us to have a more direct impact on our business versus the U. S. So there's going to be a balancing approach. We will do some investments in some of those other markets and we'll see what are the best opportunities for us that meet our long term strategic goals, but a good chunk of the Jupiter investment will happen in the U. S. Speaker 200:37:11Because that is an opportunity for the future that we want to set ourselves up for. So, yes, we'll look at Australia and we'll look at Germany And we'll see what the right opportunities are. And hopefully, we'll have news to share in the next few months. Speaker 600:37:32Thank you for the color. I'll jump back into the queue. Operator00:37:37We have no further questions in our queue at this time. I will now turn the call back to management for closing remarks. Speaker 200:37:44Well, thank you everybody for joining the call today. As I could tell, there's a lot of interest in our next steps on our Jupiter investment pool and we're equally excited about this next stage of OrganiGram's evolution And we continue to be proud of the work we do every day in the domestic market in Canada. So with that, I'll close out today's call and look forward to updating you soon on our Q2. And as a reminder, please come out to see our facility and come join us on our Investor Day in April.Read morePowered by