NASDAQ:CORT Corcept Therapeutics Q4 2023 Earnings Report $3.65 -0.36 (-8.98%) As of 04/15/2025 04:00 PM Eastern Earnings HistoryForecast Hertz Global EPS ResultsActual EPS$0.28Consensus EPS $0.25Beat/MissBeat by +$0.03One Year Ago EPS$0.14Hertz Global Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$135.41 millionExpected Revenue$129.27 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$6.14 millionYoY Revenue Growth+31.40%Hertz Global Announcement DetailsQuarterQ4 2023Date2/15/2024TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateThursday, February 15, 2024Conference Call Time5:00PM ETUpcoming EarningsHertz Global's Q1 2025 earnings is scheduled for Thursday, April 24, 2025, with a conference call scheduled at 8:30 AM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Q1 2025 Earnings ReportConference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptPress Release (8-K)Annual Report (10-K)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfilePowered by Hertz Global Q4 2023 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrFebruary 15, 2024 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 11 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good day and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Corcept Therapeutics Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. Please be advised today's conference is being recorded. I would like to turn the call over to Atabak Mukheri. Operator00:00:32Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:36Hello, everyone. Good afternoon and thank you for joining us. Today, we issued a press release announcing our financial results for the Q4 and providing a corporate update. A copy is available at corecept.com. Our complete financial results will be available when we file our Form 10 ks with the SEC. Speaker 100:00:54Today's call is being recorded. A replay will be available at the Investors, Past Events tab of our website. Statements during this call, other than statements of historical fact, are forward looking statements based on our plans and expectations that are subject to risks and uncertainties, which might cause actual results to differ materially from those such statements expressed or implied. These forward looking statements are described in today's press release And the risks and uncertainties that may affect them are described in the press release and in our annual report on Form 10 ks and our quarterly reports on Form 10 Q. Please refer to those documents for additional information. Speaker 100:01:36We disclaim any intention or duty to update forward looking statements. Speaker 200:01:42Our revenue in the Q4 of 2023 was $135,400,000 Speaker 100:01:47an increase of 31% compared to the Q4 of the prior year. We expect our revenue growth to continue and are reiterating 2024 revenue guidance of $600,000,000 to $630,000,000 compared to 2023 revenue of $482,400,000 Net income was $31,400,000 in the 4th quarter and $106,100,000 for the full year 2023. Our cash and investments at December 31 was $425,400,000 I will now turn the call over to Charlie Rupp, our Chief Business Officer to provide a legal update. Charlie? Speaker 300:02:30Thanks, Ottomak. In March 2018, we sued Teva Pharmaceuticals to prevent it Speaker 400:02:36from Speaker 300:02:36marketing a generic version of Korlym in violation of our patents. Gates went to trial in federal district court in September of last year. On December 29, the court found that Teva's generic product would not infringe the 2 patents we had asserted against it. We believe the court's verdict is wrong and is based on a misunderstanding Speaker 400:02:56of the Speaker 300:02:57law. Accordingly, we are seeking its reversal by the Federal Circuit Court of Appeals. It is impossible to predict exactly how long the appeal will take. Briefing will be complete no later than May. Our opening brief is due March 9. Speaker 300:03:12Teva will have up to 40 days after we file to respond. Our reply brief closing the briefing cycle will be due no later than 21 days after that. These documents will all be publicly available on the Internet at the PACER website. With briefing complete, the timing of oral argument and issuance of opinion are entirely up to the court. Based on past practice, it's reasonable to expect oral argument in the Q4 of this year and a decision early in the Q1 of 2025. Speaker 300:03:43If we prevail, Teva would lose FDA approval of its product at least until the expiration of our patents in 2,030 7. We are eager to advance this appeal. This has always been the case, we strongly believe that our position is the correct one. We are confident that the Federal Circuit with its deep expertise in this area of the law will agree. I will now turn the call over to Joe Belanoff, our Chief Executive Officer. Speaker 300:04:08Joe? Speaker 500:04:10Thank you, Charlie, and thank you everyone for joining us this afternoon. Ottobock highlighted our strong commercial performance and the revenue guidance we have set for 2024. A few weeks ago, I had the opportunity to meet with our endocrinology team in our national field meeting. The enthusiasm about our prospects in hypercortisolism was palpable. We have the opportunity to help many more patients with Cushing's syndrome. Speaker 500:04:36We are reaching a tipping point of sorts with the medical field increasingly understanding that hypercortisolism is far more prevalent than was previously assumed. Our ongoing Phase 4 Catalyst study will reinforce this emerging understanding. And I believe this study will be a landmark in guiding the future screening and accurate diagnosis of patients with Cushing's syndrome. Catalyst is the largest clinical trial ever conducted To examine the prevalence of hypercortisolism in patients with difficult to treat type 2 diabetes, its investigators are unquestionably The country's top diabetologists. Today, we announced preliminary results from the first 700 patients enrolled. Speaker 500:05:19Those results showed a hypercortisolism prevalence rate of 24%, far higher than many in the medical community I believe to be the case in this population. This is a 2 part study. The prevalence portion of Catalyst continues to enroll patients. Those diagnosed with hypercortisolism can enroll in the treatment phase. The final results from the prevalence phase will be presented in a keynote session at the American Diabetes Association's Annual Meeting in June. Speaker 500:05:48The results of the CATALYST study will undoubtedly stimulate physicians Screen patients for hypercortisolism and many more than are currently identified will be found. Corcept is well positioned to help them. For more than a decade, we've invested in patient advocacy and education and patient support services that are all based on understanding the journey and needs of an individual diagnosed with hypercortisolism. Our team is proud of these programs And we are prepared to help what we know will be a growing number of patients in the years to come. As the awareness and diagnosis Cushing's syndrome increases, we are working with a great sense of urgency to advance relacorilant. Speaker 500:06:32This sense of urgency comes from knowing that the compound has compelling efficacy Without many of the significant side effects of Korlym, all of our proprietary compounds including relacorilant modulate cortisol's effects by binding to the glucocorticoid receptor, receptor which is activated when cortisol levels are high. They do not bind to the progesterone receptor and therefore don't cause some of Korlym's most serious off target effects. We are evaluating relacorilant for the treatment of hypercortisolism in 2 Phase 3 trials, GRACE and GRADIENT. We expect GRACE to serve as the basis for our NDA submission in Cushing's syndrome and to build on relacorilant's positive Phase 2 efficacy and safety data. Patients experienced meaningful improvements in hypertension and glucose control as well as the other signs of symptoms of Cushing's syndrome in the Phase 2 study. Speaker 500:07:28Relacorilant did not cause progesterone related side effects, including endometrial thickening or vaginal bleeding. Relacorilant also did not cause drug induced hypokalemia. Progesterone related side effects and hypokalemia are leading causes of corticorilantiscontinuation. Relacorilant's Phase 2 trial results were published in Frontiers in Endocrinology in July 2021. Our second Phase 3 trial in hypocortisolism, GRADIENT, is studying relacorilant effects in patients whose Cushing's syndrome is caused by an adrenal adenoma or adrenal hyperplasia. Speaker 500:08:06Patients with this etiology of Cushing's syndrome often experienced a less rapid decline, But their health outcomes are poor, including a significantly higher risk of premature death. While we do not expect our NDA in Cushing's syndrome on efficacy data from Gradient, we do expect the study to provide valuable information about the treatment of an etiology of Cushing's syndrome that affects many patients. It bears repeating that the first phase of our ongoing Phase 4 catalyst study reinforces the findings from many smaller studies indicating that hypercoresolism is far more prevalent than was previously assumed. The findings from Catalyst will be entirely relevant to relacorilant as it emerges. As I said, we are working with great urgency and we are on track to submit a relacorilant Cushing's syndrome NDA in the 2nd quarter. Speaker 500:09:01We are also studying relacorilant as a treatment for different types of cancer. Our most advanced oncology program is in platinum resistant ovarian cancer, a lethal cancer with few useful treatment options. There is great enthusiasm among the investigators participating in our Phase 3 ROSELLA trial. Enrollment in the study will close shortly and data will be available by the end of this year. The goal of the Rosella is simply to replicate our positive Phase 2 ovarian cancer trial results. Speaker 500:09:33BRZELA's study design closely tracks our Phase 2 study with the planned enrollment of 360 women. Women enrolled in the study are randomized 1 to 1 to receive either relacorilant plus nab paclitaxel or nab paclitaxel alone. The primary endpoint is progression free survival with overall survival a key secondary endpoint. We are conducting the study in collaboration with leading clinicians from the Gynecological Oncology Group, GOG, in the United States and the European Network of Gynecological Oncology Trials, ENGOT Group in Europe. In our successful controlled Phase 2 trial, relacorilant produced meaningful benefit to many women. Speaker 500:10:21While these women's disease had progressed on 2 or more previous lines of treatment, including previous taxanes, relacorilant appear to resensitize their tumors to chemotherapy's beneficial effects. Those who received relacorilant intermittently, The day before, the day of and the day after they received nab paclitaxel exhibited statistically significant improvement in progression free survival and of response compared to the group who received nab paclitaxel monotherapy. Women in the intermittent relacorilant group also lived longer than those in the 29% of the patients who took intermittent relacorilantrelacorilantrelacorilantrelacorilantrelacorilantrelacorantwerealive2 years after study start versus only 14% who took nab paclitaxel alone. The addition of relacorilant enhanced the effect of chemotherapy Likely by blunting cortisol anti apoptotic effect. Just as important, the women who received relacorilant plus napaclitaxel experienced no additional side effect burden compared to those who took not paclitaxel alone. Speaker 500:11:27The results from this study were published in the Journal of Clinical Oncology in June 2023 with an accompanying editorial. Results have been featured in podium presentations in the 2021 2022 European Society For Medical Oncology ESMO Meetings And the 2022 American Society of Clinical Oncology ASCO Annual Meeting. Leading gynecological oncologists have told us that relacorilant's potential benefit improved progression free and overall survival without increased side effect burden would constitute an important medical advance and that relacorilant plus nab paclitaxel has the potential to become a new standard of care in women with platinum resistant ovarian cancer. A second mechanism by which cortisol modulation may prove useful by blocking an important tumor growth pathway. Cortisol stimulation is a major reason why patients with prostate cancer Treated with a widely prescribed androgen receptor antagonist enzalutamide eventually experienced resurgent disease. Speaker 500:12:34Deprived of androgen stimulation, their tumors switched to cortisol activity to stimulate growth. Our hypothesis is that adding a cortisol modulator to androgen deprivation therapy will close this tumor escape route. Our collaborators at the University of Chicago are enrolling a randomized placebo controlled Phase 2 trial of relacorilant plus enzalutamide patients with prostate cancer before these patients have had an initial prostatectomy. The 3rd cortisol modulation mechanism seeks to treat tumors by enhancing the body's immune response. Cortisol suppresses the immune system, which may blunt the effectiveness cancer therapies intended to stimulate the immune system. Speaker 500:13:20Our hypothesis is that adding a cortisol modulator to immunotherapies such as checkpoint inhibitors may enhance the effectiveness of these therapies. We are conducting a Phase 1b trial of relacorilant plus the PD-one checkpoint inhibitor Pembrolizumab in patients with advanced adrenal cancer whose tumors produce excess cortisol. Pembrolizumab is rarely effective as monotherapy treating this form of adrenal cancer. While each of our compounds being evaluated in clinical studies selectively modulates cortisol activity, They are not identical and they produce distinct clinical effects. Some cross the blood brain barrier, others do not. Speaker 500:14:02Some perform best in models of solid tumors, others are more potent in models of metabolic disease. Some appear to be tissue specific, others have more global effects. These diverse qualities allow us to study a wide variety of disorders using the best matched compound. One of these compounds dasicorilant has shown great promise in animal models of ALS, improving motor performance and reducing neuroinflammation and muscular atrophy. As you know, ALS is a devastating disease with a very poor prognosis and limited options to halt or slow its progression. Speaker 500:14:40Our DASLs trial is a randomized double blind placebo controlled Phase 2 trial of dasicorilant in patients ALS. The primary endpoint is based on the ALS functional rating scale. The speed of enrollment in DASL's exceeded our expectations. Enrollment will close shortly with data available by the end of this year. Finally, I'll turn to our program in NASH, A serious liver disorder that afflicts millions of people in the United States. Speaker 500:15:10Miricorilant has demonstrated compelling early evidence as a treatment for NASH. Our Phase 1b dose finding study found the patients who received 100 milligrams of miricorilant orally twice a week for 12 weeks experienced 30% reduction in liver fat with improvement in liver enzymes, markers of fibrosis and key metabolic and lipid measures including HOMA IR, serum triglycerides and LDL. Importantly, miricorilant was also very well tolerated with no apparent GI side effects. We look forward to building on these promising results in our MONARCH study, A randomized double blind placebo controlled Phase IIb trial now actively enrolling patients with biopsy confirmed NASH. The primary endpoint of the study is reduction in liver fat with NASH resolution and fibrosis improvement as key secondary endpoints. Speaker 500:16:06In conclusion, we are extremely optimistic about the future of Corceptin. Our Cushing's syndrome franchise is built on a solid foundation, Foundation that is supported by scientific, medical and commercial expertise that we have been strengthening and holding for over 20 years. Our strong commercial results reflect the physicians are more regularly screening for hypercortisolism and underscore our ability to for them as they manage this complex disease. We expect the findings from our catalyst study to help physicians better identify and treat patients It's difficult to treat diabetes is caused by hypercortisolism, a population whose Cushing's syndrome too frequently goes missed or undiagnosed. Relacorilant has demonstrated tremendous promise as treatment for patients with Cushing's syndrome and we are on track to submit our NDA in the 2nd quarter. Speaker 500:17:02Beyond Cushing's syndrome, our development programs are generating increasing evidence that cortisol modulation has the potential to treat a wide range of diseases. Ovarian cancer, prostate cancer, ALS and NASH are current examples. We have a broad and active research portfolio of many proprietary selective cortisol modulators with potentially very different clinical attributes. We will continue to invest in understanding these attributes and their potential therapeutic applications and we will advance the most promising compounds to the clinic. Over the course of this year, we expect data from our GRACE, gradient and catalyst studies in Cushing's syndrome, our pivotal Rosella trial in ovarian cancer and our DASLs trial in ALS. Speaker 500:17:50This is an exciting time for Corcept. I appreciate the efforts and dedication of our more than 3 employees who are working hard to achieve the ambitious goals we have set for ourselves. Before we take questions, I want to take a moment to introduce Roberto Viera, who joined Corcept a few years ago. Roberto, as President of our Oncology division, is responsible for the commercialization of relacorilant in platinum resistant ovarian cancer and the expansion of our oncology footprint. You'll have an opportunity to hear more from him over the course of 2024. Speaker 500:18:27Operator, let's proceed now to questions. Operator00:18:56Our first question for the day will be coming from Matt Kaplan of Ladenburg. Your line is open. Speaker 600:19:03Hey, guys. Thanks for taking the questions. Just Want to start off, first with your rerating your guidance of $600,000,000 to $630,000,000 for 2024. Can you give us a little bit more color in terms of, I guess, given the court's recent decision on the Teva case, Why you're still confident and why you're reiterating the guidance that you had given before the court's decision? Speaker 500:19:36Just one small point, but good to hear from you, Matt. Our guidance came after the court's decision, but we are reiterating it here. Sean Madueke, who is President of our Endocrinology Division will take this question. Speaker 400:19:49Yes, Matt, thank you for the question. Our revenue guidance always consider all the information that we have and our best estimates going forward. Our range includes a multitude of factors including a potential Teva launch and its impact. We have reiterated the range of $600,000,000 to $630,000,000 because we're confident in our ability to both grow our own business and to defend our market share. Speaker 600:20:13And then in terms of, I guess, maybe for Charlie, a legal update. You said that you remain confident in terms of being able to win the argument as you appeal The court's decision, can you give us some more color in terms of where you thought where you think the court in this decision and why you think you'll be able to reverse Speaker 300:20:40it? Yes. I mean, Unfortunately, Matt, I really can't share sort of our legal sort of deliberations as we work through. Obviously, I've given the matter a great deal of thought. But what I can say is, what will really matter and what will be available to you and everyone is the briefs as we file it. Speaker 300:20:59I'm really going to have to let them speak for themselves. And we'll certainly be submitting our brief and you and everyone can take a look at it then. And that's really the most I can tell you at this point. Speaker 600:21:12Okay, fair enough. And then I guess congrats on the initial results in the catalyst study. 24% prevalence And of hypocortisolism, that's higher than I guess we had expected. And How does this translate help us translate this into potential market size and numbers of patients given that result? Speaker 500:21:42Yes. Matt, I'll take that question. I think it's just really critical for people to understand that many people thought that the answer to that prevalence rate was going to be 0 or 0 to a couple of percent. Now that wasn't borne out by earlier evidence. There are many studies over the last decade that indicated in this group of patients, patients who have otherwise refractory diabetes, difficult to treat diabetes, The results were substantial. Speaker 500:22:09There were substantial groups of patients with that. But no one had ever attempted as large a study in a way we did it prospectively or frankly with the level of investigators who actually participated in this study. So I don't know exactly how that is going to what the final prevalence turns out to be. But what I can tell you is that it's substantially higher than what has previously been assumed. What's been previously assumed, I'll remind you because we said it many times on this call, there were about 20,000 patients who had Cushing's syndrome and about half of them were cured by surgery. Speaker 500:22:42Very clear to us right now that the actual overall prevalence for Cushing's syndrome is considerably higher than that. Speaker 700:22:52All right. Speaker 600:22:54Well, I'll jump back in queue. Thanks for taking my questions. Speaker 500:22:58Thank you, Matt. Thanks, Matt. Operator00:23:00Thank you. One moment for our next question. And our next question is from Zenwini Ami of Canaccord. Your line is open. Speaker 200:23:15Hi, team. Congrats on the results and thank you for taking the question from us. So we understand that When a patient stops taking Korlym, the cortisol levels begin to rebound within 4 to 5 weeks. And the randomized withdrawal phase in the GRACE study is 12 weeks. So how confident are we that a statistical significant difference in the changes of blood pressure would be observed during that 12 week window? Speaker 500:23:46I'm not sure I really understood the question. And so please tell me if in the end I haven't answered what you said. But I think the question had to do with For patients who are successfully treated with Korlym, how long does it take for stopping When you stop Korlym for their effects of the Korlym effects to rebound. And now remember, we're talking at this moment about Korlym not relacorilant. Our experience was much quicker than I think what I heard you said. Speaker 500:24:19Usually within a couple Speaker 300:24:20of weeks, we actually see Speaker 500:24:21a rebound from patients who stop taking Korlym, which frankly is a compelling reason for the high adherence rate we see with Korlym is that when they stop taking their medicine, they get pretty much worse pretty quickly. We actually expect Same sort of timeline with relacorilant is that. Obviously, the study will give us the results to that. But we think that we have A more than substantial length of time in order to see the rebound effect that comes from not taking relacorilant in the upcoming study. Speaker 200:24:56Okay. Thank you. Operator00:25:01Thank you. One moment for the next question. And our next question will be coming from David Aslam of Piper Jaffray. Your line is open. Hey, Speaker 700:25:17thanks. So I just had a few. So I wanted to come back to the generic Of Korlym and I get your comments. I guess I just wanted to get more color on The barriers to generic adoption that you think are in place, in other words, the specialty Hub that serves all of these sort of high touch points that are related to Korlym, is that something that ultimately proves to be A barrier to generics and can you just talk about those dynamics? So that's number 1. Speaker 700:25:56And then secondly, you're talking about filing, I'm sorry, filing in the Q2 on relacorilant, but you're also going to have top line data in the Q2. So that's kind of a tight turnaround. So can you just talk about that and why you're confident you can file it so quickly? And then lastly, Are you going to be running any additional trials on relacorilant to tease out long term health benefits? Can you just talk about additional clinical work you might do to support that product? Speaker 700:26:26Thank you. Speaker 500:26:28Okay. So 3 different questions in 3 different areas, David. Thank you. First one, I'm going to point to Sean to talk about how we run our endocrinology business. Go ahead, Sean. Speaker 400:26:40Yes. No, thank you for the question. And your question was specifically around sort of what we believe to be barriers to entry. And I'll just say that this is not your difficult pharmaceutical market Supporting Korlym patients is far more than just filling a prescription. And automatic substitution does not happen at a Walgreens pharmacy till like you see in a lot of these cases. Speaker 400:26:58We have a very high touch tightly controlled model. Every prescription that is written kicks off multiple high touch support initiatives to ensure that both the patient and the prescribing physician have the optimal experience. And the only other thing I'd add here is that we spent over 12 years growing this business and we've done that through the development of a deep understanding of the market and by building very strong relationships with providers. Korlym is a very, promotionally sensitive drug and we have all the pieces go through the initial part of the process of education of a Speaker 500:27:33Charlie, would you take the question about the NDA please? Sure. Speaker 300:27:37Just a little background for those who don't know this process I'm sure David does it. The new drug application, which is Speaker 400:27:43what we're going to submit Speaker 300:27:44for relacorilant in Cushing's syndrome in the second quarter, Really is a it's a really it's a substantial document. It's a lot of work. And so that's why David is asking a very good question. But I think what people also may not understand is that much of the information and analysis that you submit in the new drug application stems from work that we that is done years before the last patient leaves the pivotal study. So think of all of The preclinical research that's done, all of the Phase 1 trials, the drug drug interaction studies, the manufacturing development work, All this is makes up a really substantial part of the NDA submission to the FDA and we've been working on that for almost a year now. Speaker 300:28:31So the reason we'll be able to submit this so quickly is that a great deal of the work will be complete before the last patient leaves the GRACE study. And we will be ready there for to file really promptly after that. That's why we're confident. Speaker 500:28:48Thank you, Charlie. And Bill Guyer, who's our Chief Development Officer will answer the question about relacorilant and Longer Speaker 800:28:56term use. Yes, long term data. Speaker 100:28:57So thank you for that question. So there's Speaker 800:28:59a study that's actually ongoing. We don't talk about much and it's a long term extension trial. And so that is a study that is taking patients from our Phase 2 trial, they can roll into the long term extension trial. Grace and Gradient when they completed those trials, they can roll into that long term extension trial. At this point in time, we have patients out 6 years in that long term extension trial. Speaker 800:29:19We're going to continue that study throughout to continue to provide long term data on the safety and efficacy of relacorilant patients with Cushing's syndrome. Speaker 500:29:27Thank you, Bill. Next question please. Operator00:29:32Thank you. And one moment for the next question. And our next question will be coming from Swaithampula Ramanath of H. C. Wainwright, your line is open. Speaker 900:29:51Thank you. This is RK from H. C. Wainwright. I have a few questions. Speaker 900:29:56So I'm going to kind of ask, if you don't mind, one at a time. The first one is on the guidance itself. So you're kind of guiding, if I take the midpoint, you're Regarding for like 27% increase from where we are now and then in 2023, You grew about 20%. So I'm just trying to understand the tremendous growth that you're expecting from where you are now. So what is included in that? Speaker 900:30:29How much of that is price increase? And in terms of market growth itself, Where do you see that market growth coming from? Because in the Q4, we didn't see that jump That's quite of a rate compared to Q3. Speaker 500:30:51I'm not RK, I think I got the question. It's a little bit difficult to hear. It sounded as if what you were asking was you'd like to know What are the components of the growth that we see currently in the market and where we think it's going in the future? So I think that's about right. Now It's not, let us know, but I'll turn that over to Sean. Speaker 400:31:09Yes. No, thank you for the question. In terms of, I guess the range, I mentioned earlier, takes in a multitude of factors and the biggest obviously right now is that we have more physicians prescribing Korlym and more patients being prescribed from each Over the last year and growth that we see continuing, we've added new patients from both existing and new prescribers throughout the country And we're really pleased with the result we've seen. It's been driven by improved field execution and we're starting to see early returns from some of the investments that we've made both on the sales force side and on the disease education side. And one of the areas of growth on our business has been on the sales force expansion, I wanted to update you on that. Speaker 400:31:53In terms of where that team's at now, we're currently at about 70 clinical specialists And we're continuing to add clinical specialists throughout the country. Our target right now is 100 and we're unlikely to stop there and we'll continue to add top talent as we find it throughout We believe that that expansion is going to also help drive growth. Speaker 500:32:11So let me just sum that up for you, RK. More doctors prescribing and more patients from each doctor. It's a trend which really got very strong towards the end of last year and we're seeing it continue as we speak. Speaker 900:32:28Is there a price increase included in this? Speaker 500:32:33I can't hear the question. Speaker 400:32:35Is there a price increase included in this? There's not an additional price increase included in the range for this year. We took a price increase on January 1 this year, 9.49%. We realized about 6.5% of that, but there is no other price Speaker 900:32:52Okay. And then on the diabetes population So, talking about trying to understand a little bit more about how the Catalyst data is going to help you out. So to start up, in terms of the percent of population, the diabetes population who are considered Difficult to treat. Can you give us a number like what percentage of the diabetes population has considered that? And then, do you need to do do you need to how do you plan to include that into your label? Speaker 900:33:35Is this going to be do you need to file something or how does it work? Speaker 500:33:42Yes. So I think the answer I think the first question you were asking, RK, was what percentage are Difficult to treat diabetics and that's specifically defined in the protocol. Patients who have Hemoglobin A1c despite having multiple treatments and optimal care. So those patients have been on all of the modern medicine. We've been told by our expert, the diabetologist Speaker 900:34:09No, that doesn't give percentage, but just defines who is considered that. But what percentage of population Is that? Speaker 500:34:17I'm getting there. The percentage of the population that a diabetic population that's considered to be in that group difficult to treat diabetics is about a quarter. Speaker 900:34:29Okay. Thanks. Speaker 500:34:31And the second question, Sean? Speaker 400:34:34Yes, I'm happy to take the second question. So the question was, are we going to have to file to have this included within our label, this catalyst patient population? These patients are already included in our label. I'm going to read you the label right now and sort of highlight exactly that fact. What's our label or indication statement? Speaker 400:34:52Korlymifepristone is a cortisol receptor blocker indicated to control hyperglycemia That is a clear and exact description of the patients that are in the Calyceflex. Speaker 100:35:15Next question please. Operator00:35:18Thank you. One moment for the next question. And we have a follow-up question from David Amsellem of Piper Jaffray. Your line is open. Speaker 700:35:35Yes, just a follow-up. So to the extent that the 2 other generic, SUN and Hikma, enter the market later this year, does that change how you think about your sales expectations? Or does your $600,000,000 to $630,000,000 contemplate 3 generic entrants, by the second half of this year? Thank you. Speaker 500:36:01We heard the question. Speaker 400:36:02Yes, thank you. Yes, our guidance includes all those scenarios. And I just want to state that we've been thinking about this for a long time and we've been for this possibility since 2020. We have a plan in place and we will continue to revise that plan as we receive new market intelligence. And as I said before, we're continuing to invest in our growing business and we're confident in our ability to both grow and protect the share that we have. Speaker 400:36:23But yes, all of those scenarios are included in our forecast. Speaker 700:36:30Thank you. Operator00:36:32One moment for the next question. And our next question will be coming from Joon Lee of Truist. Your line is open. Speaker 1000:36:46Hey, thanks for the updates and for taking our questions. Yes. So 24% of the quarter of 30,000,000 diabetics in the U. S. Is an attractive opportunity, but with the Phase III BRIGS not having hyperglycemia as an endpoint spelled out represent a headwind to utilization of belichorilant in diabetics? Speaker 1000:37:08Or do you think the data from the gradient could be supportive there? And also with Speaker 100:37:15the orphan pricing Speaker 1000:37:16of Korlym or relacorilant be prohibitive in the utilization. And I have a follow-up. Speaker 500:37:25Yes. Joon, I'm very glad that you asked the first question because it really gives us an opportunity to really clarify what situation is, Bill, could you please take that one? Speaker 800:37:34So, yes, for the GRACE trial, we have a primary endpoint of blood glucose our blood pressure control and secondary endpoint of glycemic control. And so what we do is we have a hierarchy. When we meet our blood pressure control, we plan to then have that as our primary endpoint and therefore we then move in that hierarchy to glucose control and we expect to meet both of those endpoints And we expect to have a robust response to both hypertension and diabetes control as well as other comorbidities. And based upon meeting all those endpoints, We expect a broad indication for relacorilant. Yes. Speaker 500:38:08I think that's really an important thing. I'm just going to emphasize that I don't have anything different to say than Bill said, just I want to just underscore that. Is our anticipated label for relacorilant is to treat Cushing's syndrome. There are many variables that we're measuring in that And that's something and in the hierarchy hypertension is at the top of the list, but glucose intolerance is on that list as are many other endpoints that describe Cushing's syndrome. It's probably 20 different endpoints because Cushing's syndrome is a syndrome caused by excess cortisol activity. Speaker 500:38:40Cortisol goes everywhere in the body And many things go wrong when people have Cushing's syndrome. Now you have to really an interesting question about Price as we go forward and that's that really is something that we really have to think about as the market enlarges and in the largest and largest. And we don't know if someone I asked the answered to an earlier question exactly what the market size is. But we will certainly take all those things into account as we go forward. One thing I want to just emphasize at this point is that we have not seen a single bit of influence yet from the catalyst information, Not a patient. Speaker 500:39:16So it will be very interesting to see where that goes over time. Speaker 1000:39:21All right. Looking forward to the full data. And on generic, are you seeing any impact to Korlym since Tema's generic launch 6 weeks ago? And have you or do you plan to institute any new sales strategy in response to generic launch? Thank you. Speaker 500:39:38June, I'm going to give you back to Sean for that question. Speaker 400:39:41No, June, thanks for the question. There has been no impact to our business since Teva announced its launch. We have seen no evidence of generic mifepristone in the marketplace and we're monitoring daily. And to your second question, I'm not going to go into any specifics, but again, we've been prepared. We have a plan in place And more to follow. Speaker 1000:40:05Thank you. Operator00:40:08Thank you. There are no further questions in the queue. Speaker 500:40:11All right. Well, thank you everybody and look forward to 3 months from mute and speaking with you again and hope you have a good rest of the winter and early spring. Operator00:40:25Thank you all for joining today's conference call. 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There are 11 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good day and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Corcept Therapeutics Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. Please be advised today's conference is being recorded. I would like to turn the call over to Atabak Mukheri. Operator00:00:32Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:36Hello, everyone. Good afternoon and thank you for joining us. Today, we issued a press release announcing our financial results for the Q4 and providing a corporate update. A copy is available at corecept.com. Our complete financial results will be available when we file our Form 10 ks with the SEC. Speaker 100:00:54Today's call is being recorded. A replay will be available at the Investors, Past Events tab of our website. Statements during this call, other than statements of historical fact, are forward looking statements based on our plans and expectations that are subject to risks and uncertainties, which might cause actual results to differ materially from those such statements expressed or implied. These forward looking statements are described in today's press release And the risks and uncertainties that may affect them are described in the press release and in our annual report on Form 10 ks and our quarterly reports on Form 10 Q. Please refer to those documents for additional information. Speaker 100:01:36We disclaim any intention or duty to update forward looking statements. Speaker 200:01:42Our revenue in the Q4 of 2023 was $135,400,000 Speaker 100:01:47an increase of 31% compared to the Q4 of the prior year. We expect our revenue growth to continue and are reiterating 2024 revenue guidance of $600,000,000 to $630,000,000 compared to 2023 revenue of $482,400,000 Net income was $31,400,000 in the 4th quarter and $106,100,000 for the full year 2023. Our cash and investments at December 31 was $425,400,000 I will now turn the call over to Charlie Rupp, our Chief Business Officer to provide a legal update. Charlie? Speaker 300:02:30Thanks, Ottomak. In March 2018, we sued Teva Pharmaceuticals to prevent it Speaker 400:02:36from Speaker 300:02:36marketing a generic version of Korlym in violation of our patents. Gates went to trial in federal district court in September of last year. On December 29, the court found that Teva's generic product would not infringe the 2 patents we had asserted against it. We believe the court's verdict is wrong and is based on a misunderstanding Speaker 400:02:56of the Speaker 300:02:57law. Accordingly, we are seeking its reversal by the Federal Circuit Court of Appeals. It is impossible to predict exactly how long the appeal will take. Briefing will be complete no later than May. Our opening brief is due March 9. Speaker 300:03:12Teva will have up to 40 days after we file to respond. Our reply brief closing the briefing cycle will be due no later than 21 days after that. These documents will all be publicly available on the Internet at the PACER website. With briefing complete, the timing of oral argument and issuance of opinion are entirely up to the court. Based on past practice, it's reasonable to expect oral argument in the Q4 of this year and a decision early in the Q1 of 2025. Speaker 300:03:43If we prevail, Teva would lose FDA approval of its product at least until the expiration of our patents in 2,030 7. We are eager to advance this appeal. This has always been the case, we strongly believe that our position is the correct one. We are confident that the Federal Circuit with its deep expertise in this area of the law will agree. I will now turn the call over to Joe Belanoff, our Chief Executive Officer. Speaker 300:04:08Joe? Speaker 500:04:10Thank you, Charlie, and thank you everyone for joining us this afternoon. Ottobock highlighted our strong commercial performance and the revenue guidance we have set for 2024. A few weeks ago, I had the opportunity to meet with our endocrinology team in our national field meeting. The enthusiasm about our prospects in hypercortisolism was palpable. We have the opportunity to help many more patients with Cushing's syndrome. Speaker 500:04:36We are reaching a tipping point of sorts with the medical field increasingly understanding that hypercortisolism is far more prevalent than was previously assumed. Our ongoing Phase 4 Catalyst study will reinforce this emerging understanding. And I believe this study will be a landmark in guiding the future screening and accurate diagnosis of patients with Cushing's syndrome. Catalyst is the largest clinical trial ever conducted To examine the prevalence of hypercortisolism in patients with difficult to treat type 2 diabetes, its investigators are unquestionably The country's top diabetologists. Today, we announced preliminary results from the first 700 patients enrolled. Speaker 500:05:19Those results showed a hypercortisolism prevalence rate of 24%, far higher than many in the medical community I believe to be the case in this population. This is a 2 part study. The prevalence portion of Catalyst continues to enroll patients. Those diagnosed with hypercortisolism can enroll in the treatment phase. The final results from the prevalence phase will be presented in a keynote session at the American Diabetes Association's Annual Meeting in June. Speaker 500:05:48The results of the CATALYST study will undoubtedly stimulate physicians Screen patients for hypercortisolism and many more than are currently identified will be found. Corcept is well positioned to help them. For more than a decade, we've invested in patient advocacy and education and patient support services that are all based on understanding the journey and needs of an individual diagnosed with hypercortisolism. Our team is proud of these programs And we are prepared to help what we know will be a growing number of patients in the years to come. As the awareness and diagnosis Cushing's syndrome increases, we are working with a great sense of urgency to advance relacorilant. Speaker 500:06:32This sense of urgency comes from knowing that the compound has compelling efficacy Without many of the significant side effects of Korlym, all of our proprietary compounds including relacorilant modulate cortisol's effects by binding to the glucocorticoid receptor, receptor which is activated when cortisol levels are high. They do not bind to the progesterone receptor and therefore don't cause some of Korlym's most serious off target effects. We are evaluating relacorilant for the treatment of hypercortisolism in 2 Phase 3 trials, GRACE and GRADIENT. We expect GRACE to serve as the basis for our NDA submission in Cushing's syndrome and to build on relacorilant's positive Phase 2 efficacy and safety data. Patients experienced meaningful improvements in hypertension and glucose control as well as the other signs of symptoms of Cushing's syndrome in the Phase 2 study. Speaker 500:07:28Relacorilant did not cause progesterone related side effects, including endometrial thickening or vaginal bleeding. Relacorilant also did not cause drug induced hypokalemia. Progesterone related side effects and hypokalemia are leading causes of corticorilantiscontinuation. Relacorilant's Phase 2 trial results were published in Frontiers in Endocrinology in July 2021. Our second Phase 3 trial in hypocortisolism, GRADIENT, is studying relacorilant effects in patients whose Cushing's syndrome is caused by an adrenal adenoma or adrenal hyperplasia. Speaker 500:08:06Patients with this etiology of Cushing's syndrome often experienced a less rapid decline, But their health outcomes are poor, including a significantly higher risk of premature death. While we do not expect our NDA in Cushing's syndrome on efficacy data from Gradient, we do expect the study to provide valuable information about the treatment of an etiology of Cushing's syndrome that affects many patients. It bears repeating that the first phase of our ongoing Phase 4 catalyst study reinforces the findings from many smaller studies indicating that hypercoresolism is far more prevalent than was previously assumed. The findings from Catalyst will be entirely relevant to relacorilant as it emerges. As I said, we are working with great urgency and we are on track to submit a relacorilant Cushing's syndrome NDA in the 2nd quarter. Speaker 500:09:01We are also studying relacorilant as a treatment for different types of cancer. Our most advanced oncology program is in platinum resistant ovarian cancer, a lethal cancer with few useful treatment options. There is great enthusiasm among the investigators participating in our Phase 3 ROSELLA trial. Enrollment in the study will close shortly and data will be available by the end of this year. The goal of the Rosella is simply to replicate our positive Phase 2 ovarian cancer trial results. Speaker 500:09:33BRZELA's study design closely tracks our Phase 2 study with the planned enrollment of 360 women. Women enrolled in the study are randomized 1 to 1 to receive either relacorilant plus nab paclitaxel or nab paclitaxel alone. The primary endpoint is progression free survival with overall survival a key secondary endpoint. We are conducting the study in collaboration with leading clinicians from the Gynecological Oncology Group, GOG, in the United States and the European Network of Gynecological Oncology Trials, ENGOT Group in Europe. In our successful controlled Phase 2 trial, relacorilant produced meaningful benefit to many women. Speaker 500:10:21While these women's disease had progressed on 2 or more previous lines of treatment, including previous taxanes, relacorilant appear to resensitize their tumors to chemotherapy's beneficial effects. Those who received relacorilant intermittently, The day before, the day of and the day after they received nab paclitaxel exhibited statistically significant improvement in progression free survival and of response compared to the group who received nab paclitaxel monotherapy. Women in the intermittent relacorilant group also lived longer than those in the 29% of the patients who took intermittent relacorilantrelacorilantrelacorilantrelacorilantrelacorilantrelacorantwerealive2 years after study start versus only 14% who took nab paclitaxel alone. The addition of relacorilant enhanced the effect of chemotherapy Likely by blunting cortisol anti apoptotic effect. Just as important, the women who received relacorilant plus napaclitaxel experienced no additional side effect burden compared to those who took not paclitaxel alone. Speaker 500:11:27The results from this study were published in the Journal of Clinical Oncology in June 2023 with an accompanying editorial. Results have been featured in podium presentations in the 2021 2022 European Society For Medical Oncology ESMO Meetings And the 2022 American Society of Clinical Oncology ASCO Annual Meeting. Leading gynecological oncologists have told us that relacorilant's potential benefit improved progression free and overall survival without increased side effect burden would constitute an important medical advance and that relacorilant plus nab paclitaxel has the potential to become a new standard of care in women with platinum resistant ovarian cancer. A second mechanism by which cortisol modulation may prove useful by blocking an important tumor growth pathway. Cortisol stimulation is a major reason why patients with prostate cancer Treated with a widely prescribed androgen receptor antagonist enzalutamide eventually experienced resurgent disease. Speaker 500:12:34Deprived of androgen stimulation, their tumors switched to cortisol activity to stimulate growth. Our hypothesis is that adding a cortisol modulator to androgen deprivation therapy will close this tumor escape route. Our collaborators at the University of Chicago are enrolling a randomized placebo controlled Phase 2 trial of relacorilant plus enzalutamide patients with prostate cancer before these patients have had an initial prostatectomy. The 3rd cortisol modulation mechanism seeks to treat tumors by enhancing the body's immune response. Cortisol suppresses the immune system, which may blunt the effectiveness cancer therapies intended to stimulate the immune system. Speaker 500:13:20Our hypothesis is that adding a cortisol modulator to immunotherapies such as checkpoint inhibitors may enhance the effectiveness of these therapies. We are conducting a Phase 1b trial of relacorilant plus the PD-one checkpoint inhibitor Pembrolizumab in patients with advanced adrenal cancer whose tumors produce excess cortisol. Pembrolizumab is rarely effective as monotherapy treating this form of adrenal cancer. While each of our compounds being evaluated in clinical studies selectively modulates cortisol activity, They are not identical and they produce distinct clinical effects. Some cross the blood brain barrier, others do not. Speaker 500:14:02Some perform best in models of solid tumors, others are more potent in models of metabolic disease. Some appear to be tissue specific, others have more global effects. These diverse qualities allow us to study a wide variety of disorders using the best matched compound. One of these compounds dasicorilant has shown great promise in animal models of ALS, improving motor performance and reducing neuroinflammation and muscular atrophy. As you know, ALS is a devastating disease with a very poor prognosis and limited options to halt or slow its progression. Speaker 500:14:40Our DASLs trial is a randomized double blind placebo controlled Phase 2 trial of dasicorilant in patients ALS. The primary endpoint is based on the ALS functional rating scale. The speed of enrollment in DASL's exceeded our expectations. Enrollment will close shortly with data available by the end of this year. Finally, I'll turn to our program in NASH, A serious liver disorder that afflicts millions of people in the United States. Speaker 500:15:10Miricorilant has demonstrated compelling early evidence as a treatment for NASH. Our Phase 1b dose finding study found the patients who received 100 milligrams of miricorilant orally twice a week for 12 weeks experienced 30% reduction in liver fat with improvement in liver enzymes, markers of fibrosis and key metabolic and lipid measures including HOMA IR, serum triglycerides and LDL. Importantly, miricorilant was also very well tolerated with no apparent GI side effects. We look forward to building on these promising results in our MONARCH study, A randomized double blind placebo controlled Phase IIb trial now actively enrolling patients with biopsy confirmed NASH. The primary endpoint of the study is reduction in liver fat with NASH resolution and fibrosis improvement as key secondary endpoints. Speaker 500:16:06In conclusion, we are extremely optimistic about the future of Corceptin. Our Cushing's syndrome franchise is built on a solid foundation, Foundation that is supported by scientific, medical and commercial expertise that we have been strengthening and holding for over 20 years. Our strong commercial results reflect the physicians are more regularly screening for hypercortisolism and underscore our ability to for them as they manage this complex disease. We expect the findings from our catalyst study to help physicians better identify and treat patients It's difficult to treat diabetes is caused by hypercortisolism, a population whose Cushing's syndrome too frequently goes missed or undiagnosed. Relacorilant has demonstrated tremendous promise as treatment for patients with Cushing's syndrome and we are on track to submit our NDA in the 2nd quarter. Speaker 500:17:02Beyond Cushing's syndrome, our development programs are generating increasing evidence that cortisol modulation has the potential to treat a wide range of diseases. Ovarian cancer, prostate cancer, ALS and NASH are current examples. We have a broad and active research portfolio of many proprietary selective cortisol modulators with potentially very different clinical attributes. We will continue to invest in understanding these attributes and their potential therapeutic applications and we will advance the most promising compounds to the clinic. Over the course of this year, we expect data from our GRACE, gradient and catalyst studies in Cushing's syndrome, our pivotal Rosella trial in ovarian cancer and our DASLs trial in ALS. Speaker 500:17:50This is an exciting time for Corcept. I appreciate the efforts and dedication of our more than 3 employees who are working hard to achieve the ambitious goals we have set for ourselves. Before we take questions, I want to take a moment to introduce Roberto Viera, who joined Corcept a few years ago. Roberto, as President of our Oncology division, is responsible for the commercialization of relacorilant in platinum resistant ovarian cancer and the expansion of our oncology footprint. You'll have an opportunity to hear more from him over the course of 2024. Speaker 500:18:27Operator, let's proceed now to questions. Operator00:18:56Our first question for the day will be coming from Matt Kaplan of Ladenburg. Your line is open. Speaker 600:19:03Hey, guys. Thanks for taking the questions. Just Want to start off, first with your rerating your guidance of $600,000,000 to $630,000,000 for 2024. Can you give us a little bit more color in terms of, I guess, given the court's recent decision on the Teva case, Why you're still confident and why you're reiterating the guidance that you had given before the court's decision? Speaker 500:19:36Just one small point, but good to hear from you, Matt. Our guidance came after the court's decision, but we are reiterating it here. Sean Madueke, who is President of our Endocrinology Division will take this question. Speaker 400:19:49Yes, Matt, thank you for the question. Our revenue guidance always consider all the information that we have and our best estimates going forward. Our range includes a multitude of factors including a potential Teva launch and its impact. We have reiterated the range of $600,000,000 to $630,000,000 because we're confident in our ability to both grow our own business and to defend our market share. Speaker 600:20:13And then in terms of, I guess, maybe for Charlie, a legal update. You said that you remain confident in terms of being able to win the argument as you appeal The court's decision, can you give us some more color in terms of where you thought where you think the court in this decision and why you think you'll be able to reverse Speaker 300:20:40it? Yes. I mean, Unfortunately, Matt, I really can't share sort of our legal sort of deliberations as we work through. Obviously, I've given the matter a great deal of thought. But what I can say is, what will really matter and what will be available to you and everyone is the briefs as we file it. Speaker 300:20:59I'm really going to have to let them speak for themselves. And we'll certainly be submitting our brief and you and everyone can take a look at it then. And that's really the most I can tell you at this point. Speaker 600:21:12Okay, fair enough. And then I guess congrats on the initial results in the catalyst study. 24% prevalence And of hypocortisolism, that's higher than I guess we had expected. And How does this translate help us translate this into potential market size and numbers of patients given that result? Speaker 500:21:42Yes. Matt, I'll take that question. I think it's just really critical for people to understand that many people thought that the answer to that prevalence rate was going to be 0 or 0 to a couple of percent. Now that wasn't borne out by earlier evidence. There are many studies over the last decade that indicated in this group of patients, patients who have otherwise refractory diabetes, difficult to treat diabetes, The results were substantial. Speaker 500:22:09There were substantial groups of patients with that. But no one had ever attempted as large a study in a way we did it prospectively or frankly with the level of investigators who actually participated in this study. So I don't know exactly how that is going to what the final prevalence turns out to be. But what I can tell you is that it's substantially higher than what has previously been assumed. What's been previously assumed, I'll remind you because we said it many times on this call, there were about 20,000 patients who had Cushing's syndrome and about half of them were cured by surgery. Speaker 500:22:42Very clear to us right now that the actual overall prevalence for Cushing's syndrome is considerably higher than that. Speaker 700:22:52All right. Speaker 600:22:54Well, I'll jump back in queue. Thanks for taking my questions. Speaker 500:22:58Thank you, Matt. Thanks, Matt. Operator00:23:00Thank you. One moment for our next question. And our next question is from Zenwini Ami of Canaccord. Your line is open. Speaker 200:23:15Hi, team. Congrats on the results and thank you for taking the question from us. So we understand that When a patient stops taking Korlym, the cortisol levels begin to rebound within 4 to 5 weeks. And the randomized withdrawal phase in the GRACE study is 12 weeks. So how confident are we that a statistical significant difference in the changes of blood pressure would be observed during that 12 week window? Speaker 500:23:46I'm not sure I really understood the question. And so please tell me if in the end I haven't answered what you said. But I think the question had to do with For patients who are successfully treated with Korlym, how long does it take for stopping When you stop Korlym for their effects of the Korlym effects to rebound. And now remember, we're talking at this moment about Korlym not relacorilant. Our experience was much quicker than I think what I heard you said. Speaker 500:24:19Usually within a couple Speaker 300:24:20of weeks, we actually see Speaker 500:24:21a rebound from patients who stop taking Korlym, which frankly is a compelling reason for the high adherence rate we see with Korlym is that when they stop taking their medicine, they get pretty much worse pretty quickly. We actually expect Same sort of timeline with relacorilant is that. Obviously, the study will give us the results to that. But we think that we have A more than substantial length of time in order to see the rebound effect that comes from not taking relacorilant in the upcoming study. Speaker 200:24:56Okay. Thank you. Operator00:25:01Thank you. One moment for the next question. And our next question will be coming from David Aslam of Piper Jaffray. Your line is open. Hey, Speaker 700:25:17thanks. So I just had a few. So I wanted to come back to the generic Of Korlym and I get your comments. I guess I just wanted to get more color on The barriers to generic adoption that you think are in place, in other words, the specialty Hub that serves all of these sort of high touch points that are related to Korlym, is that something that ultimately proves to be A barrier to generics and can you just talk about those dynamics? So that's number 1. Speaker 700:25:56And then secondly, you're talking about filing, I'm sorry, filing in the Q2 on relacorilant, but you're also going to have top line data in the Q2. So that's kind of a tight turnaround. So can you just talk about that and why you're confident you can file it so quickly? And then lastly, Are you going to be running any additional trials on relacorilant to tease out long term health benefits? Can you just talk about additional clinical work you might do to support that product? Speaker 700:26:26Thank you. Speaker 500:26:28Okay. So 3 different questions in 3 different areas, David. Thank you. First one, I'm going to point to Sean to talk about how we run our endocrinology business. Go ahead, Sean. Speaker 400:26:40Yes. No, thank you for the question. And your question was specifically around sort of what we believe to be barriers to entry. And I'll just say that this is not your difficult pharmaceutical market Supporting Korlym patients is far more than just filling a prescription. And automatic substitution does not happen at a Walgreens pharmacy till like you see in a lot of these cases. Speaker 400:26:58We have a very high touch tightly controlled model. Every prescription that is written kicks off multiple high touch support initiatives to ensure that both the patient and the prescribing physician have the optimal experience. And the only other thing I'd add here is that we spent over 12 years growing this business and we've done that through the development of a deep understanding of the market and by building very strong relationships with providers. Korlym is a very, promotionally sensitive drug and we have all the pieces go through the initial part of the process of education of a Speaker 500:27:33Charlie, would you take the question about the NDA please? Sure. Speaker 300:27:37Just a little background for those who don't know this process I'm sure David does it. The new drug application, which is Speaker 400:27:43what we're going to submit Speaker 300:27:44for relacorilant in Cushing's syndrome in the second quarter, Really is a it's a really it's a substantial document. It's a lot of work. And so that's why David is asking a very good question. But I think what people also may not understand is that much of the information and analysis that you submit in the new drug application stems from work that we that is done years before the last patient leaves the pivotal study. So think of all of The preclinical research that's done, all of the Phase 1 trials, the drug drug interaction studies, the manufacturing development work, All this is makes up a really substantial part of the NDA submission to the FDA and we've been working on that for almost a year now. Speaker 300:28:31So the reason we'll be able to submit this so quickly is that a great deal of the work will be complete before the last patient leaves the GRACE study. And we will be ready there for to file really promptly after that. That's why we're confident. Speaker 500:28:48Thank you, Charlie. And Bill Guyer, who's our Chief Development Officer will answer the question about relacorilant and Longer Speaker 800:28:56term use. Yes, long term data. Speaker 100:28:57So thank you for that question. So there's Speaker 800:28:59a study that's actually ongoing. We don't talk about much and it's a long term extension trial. And so that is a study that is taking patients from our Phase 2 trial, they can roll into the long term extension trial. Grace and Gradient when they completed those trials, they can roll into that long term extension trial. At this point in time, we have patients out 6 years in that long term extension trial. Speaker 800:29:19We're going to continue that study throughout to continue to provide long term data on the safety and efficacy of relacorilant patients with Cushing's syndrome. Speaker 500:29:27Thank you, Bill. Next question please. Operator00:29:32Thank you. And one moment for the next question. And our next question will be coming from Swaithampula Ramanath of H. C. Wainwright, your line is open. Speaker 900:29:51Thank you. This is RK from H. C. Wainwright. I have a few questions. Speaker 900:29:56So I'm going to kind of ask, if you don't mind, one at a time. The first one is on the guidance itself. So you're kind of guiding, if I take the midpoint, you're Regarding for like 27% increase from where we are now and then in 2023, You grew about 20%. So I'm just trying to understand the tremendous growth that you're expecting from where you are now. So what is included in that? Speaker 900:30:29How much of that is price increase? And in terms of market growth itself, Where do you see that market growth coming from? Because in the Q4, we didn't see that jump That's quite of a rate compared to Q3. Speaker 500:30:51I'm not RK, I think I got the question. It's a little bit difficult to hear. It sounded as if what you were asking was you'd like to know What are the components of the growth that we see currently in the market and where we think it's going in the future? So I think that's about right. Now It's not, let us know, but I'll turn that over to Sean. Speaker 400:31:09Yes. No, thank you for the question. In terms of, I guess the range, I mentioned earlier, takes in a multitude of factors and the biggest obviously right now is that we have more physicians prescribing Korlym and more patients being prescribed from each Over the last year and growth that we see continuing, we've added new patients from both existing and new prescribers throughout the country And we're really pleased with the result we've seen. It's been driven by improved field execution and we're starting to see early returns from some of the investments that we've made both on the sales force side and on the disease education side. And one of the areas of growth on our business has been on the sales force expansion, I wanted to update you on that. Speaker 400:31:53In terms of where that team's at now, we're currently at about 70 clinical specialists And we're continuing to add clinical specialists throughout the country. Our target right now is 100 and we're unlikely to stop there and we'll continue to add top talent as we find it throughout We believe that that expansion is going to also help drive growth. Speaker 500:32:11So let me just sum that up for you, RK. More doctors prescribing and more patients from each doctor. It's a trend which really got very strong towards the end of last year and we're seeing it continue as we speak. Speaker 900:32:28Is there a price increase included in this? Speaker 500:32:33I can't hear the question. Speaker 400:32:35Is there a price increase included in this? There's not an additional price increase included in the range for this year. We took a price increase on January 1 this year, 9.49%. We realized about 6.5% of that, but there is no other price Speaker 900:32:52Okay. And then on the diabetes population So, talking about trying to understand a little bit more about how the Catalyst data is going to help you out. So to start up, in terms of the percent of population, the diabetes population who are considered Difficult to treat. Can you give us a number like what percentage of the diabetes population has considered that? And then, do you need to do do you need to how do you plan to include that into your label? Speaker 900:33:35Is this going to be do you need to file something or how does it work? Speaker 500:33:42Yes. So I think the answer I think the first question you were asking, RK, was what percentage are Difficult to treat diabetics and that's specifically defined in the protocol. Patients who have Hemoglobin A1c despite having multiple treatments and optimal care. So those patients have been on all of the modern medicine. We've been told by our expert, the diabetologist Speaker 900:34:09No, that doesn't give percentage, but just defines who is considered that. But what percentage of population Is that? Speaker 500:34:17I'm getting there. The percentage of the population that a diabetic population that's considered to be in that group difficult to treat diabetics is about a quarter. Speaker 900:34:29Okay. Thanks. Speaker 500:34:31And the second question, Sean? Speaker 400:34:34Yes, I'm happy to take the second question. So the question was, are we going to have to file to have this included within our label, this catalyst patient population? These patients are already included in our label. I'm going to read you the label right now and sort of highlight exactly that fact. What's our label or indication statement? Speaker 400:34:52Korlymifepristone is a cortisol receptor blocker indicated to control hyperglycemia That is a clear and exact description of the patients that are in the Calyceflex. Speaker 100:35:15Next question please. Operator00:35:18Thank you. One moment for the next question. And we have a follow-up question from David Amsellem of Piper Jaffray. Your line is open. Speaker 700:35:35Yes, just a follow-up. So to the extent that the 2 other generic, SUN and Hikma, enter the market later this year, does that change how you think about your sales expectations? Or does your $600,000,000 to $630,000,000 contemplate 3 generic entrants, by the second half of this year? Thank you. Speaker 500:36:01We heard the question. Speaker 400:36:02Yes, thank you. Yes, our guidance includes all those scenarios. And I just want to state that we've been thinking about this for a long time and we've been for this possibility since 2020. We have a plan in place and we will continue to revise that plan as we receive new market intelligence. And as I said before, we're continuing to invest in our growing business and we're confident in our ability to both grow and protect the share that we have. Speaker 400:36:23But yes, all of those scenarios are included in our forecast. Speaker 700:36:30Thank you. Operator00:36:32One moment for the next question. And our next question will be coming from Joon Lee of Truist. Your line is open. Speaker 1000:36:46Hey, thanks for the updates and for taking our questions. Yes. So 24% of the quarter of 30,000,000 diabetics in the U. S. Is an attractive opportunity, but with the Phase III BRIGS not having hyperglycemia as an endpoint spelled out represent a headwind to utilization of belichorilant in diabetics? Speaker 1000:37:08Or do you think the data from the gradient could be supportive there? And also with Speaker 100:37:15the orphan pricing Speaker 1000:37:16of Korlym or relacorilant be prohibitive in the utilization. And I have a follow-up. Speaker 500:37:25Yes. Joon, I'm very glad that you asked the first question because it really gives us an opportunity to really clarify what situation is, Bill, could you please take that one? Speaker 800:37:34So, yes, for the GRACE trial, we have a primary endpoint of blood glucose our blood pressure control and secondary endpoint of glycemic control. And so what we do is we have a hierarchy. When we meet our blood pressure control, we plan to then have that as our primary endpoint and therefore we then move in that hierarchy to glucose control and we expect to meet both of those endpoints And we expect to have a robust response to both hypertension and diabetes control as well as other comorbidities. And based upon meeting all those endpoints, We expect a broad indication for relacorilant. Yes. Speaker 500:38:08I think that's really an important thing. I'm just going to emphasize that I don't have anything different to say than Bill said, just I want to just underscore that. Is our anticipated label for relacorilant is to treat Cushing's syndrome. There are many variables that we're measuring in that And that's something and in the hierarchy hypertension is at the top of the list, but glucose intolerance is on that list as are many other endpoints that describe Cushing's syndrome. It's probably 20 different endpoints because Cushing's syndrome is a syndrome caused by excess cortisol activity. Speaker 500:38:40Cortisol goes everywhere in the body And many things go wrong when people have Cushing's syndrome. Now you have to really an interesting question about Price as we go forward and that's that really is something that we really have to think about as the market enlarges and in the largest and largest. And we don't know if someone I asked the answered to an earlier question exactly what the market size is. But we will certainly take all those things into account as we go forward. One thing I want to just emphasize at this point is that we have not seen a single bit of influence yet from the catalyst information, Not a patient. Speaker 500:39:16So it will be very interesting to see where that goes over time. Speaker 1000:39:21All right. Looking forward to the full data. And on generic, are you seeing any impact to Korlym since Tema's generic launch 6 weeks ago? And have you or do you plan to institute any new sales strategy in response to generic launch? Thank you. Speaker 500:39:38June, I'm going to give you back to Sean for that question. Speaker 400:39:41No, June, thanks for the question. There has been no impact to our business since Teva announced its launch. We have seen no evidence of generic mifepristone in the marketplace and we're monitoring daily. And to your second question, I'm not going to go into any specifics, but again, we've been prepared. We have a plan in place And more to follow. Speaker 1000:40:05Thank you. Operator00:40:08Thank you. There are no further questions in the queue. Speaker 500:40:11All right. Well, thank you everybody and look forward to 3 months from mute and speaking with you again and hope you have a good rest of the winter and early spring. Operator00:40:25Thank you all for joining today's conference call. 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