APA Q4 2023 Earnings Call Transcript

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February 22, 2024

There are 13 speakers on the call.

Operator

Good day and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the APA Corporation's 4th Quarter and Full Year 2023 Results Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. After the speakers' presentation, there will be a question and answer Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Gary Clark, Vice President, Investor Relations.

Operator

Please go ahead.

Speaker 1

Good morning, and thank you for joining us on APA Corporation's 4th quarter year end 2023 financial and operational results conference call. We will begin the call with an overview by CEO, John Christmann. Steve Riney, President and CFO, will then provide further color on our results and outlook. Also on the call and available to answer questions are Dave Purcell, Executive Vice President of Development Tracy Henderson, Executive Vice President of Exploration and Clay Bretches, Executive Vice President of Operations. Our prepared remarks will be about 15 minutes in length, with the remainder of the hour allotted for Q and A.

Speaker 1

In conjunction with yesterday's press release, I hope you have had the opportunity to review our financial and operational supplement, which can be found on our Investor Relations website at investor. Apacorp.com. Please note that we may discuss certain non GAAP financial measures. A reconciliation of the differences between these measures and the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures can be found in the supplemental information provided on our website. Consistent with previous reporting practices, adjusted production numbers cited in today's call are adjusted to exclude non controlling interest in Egypt and Egypt tax barrels.

Speaker 1

I'd like to remind everyone that today's discussion will contain forward looking estimates and assumptions based on our current views and reasonable expectations. However, a number of factors could cause actual results to differ materially from what we discuss on today's call. A full disclaimer is located with the supplemental information on our website. Also, please note that the forward guidance we provided with our 4th quarter results reflects our outlook for APA Corporation on a standalone basis only and does not incorporate pro form a effects of the pending Callon Petroleum acquisition.

Speaker 2

And with that, I will turn the call over to John. Good morning and thank you for joining us. On the call today, I will review our key accomplishments in 2023, comment on 4th quarter performance and provide an overview of our 2024 plans and objectives. APA has a long standing strategic framework for managing our business that emphasizes investing capital with a focus on long term full cycle returns, pursuing moderate sustainable production growth, strengthening the balance sheet to underpin significant cash returns to shareholders, responsibly managing costs, including rightsizing the organization commensurate with lower activity levels, growing inventory both organically through existing play expansion and new area exploration and more recently building scale and or adding inventory inorganically through acquisitions such as Callon. We have patiently employed this strategy through periods of considerable price volatility and our approach going forward will remain unchanged.

Speaker 2

Looking at APA's results, there were a number of highlights in 2023. The more notable achievements include, on the whole, delivering on all of our production and financial metrics very close to original guidance. Egypt gross oil production lagged expectations for most of the year, but this was offset by continued strong performance from the Permian. Free cash flow generation of nearly $1,000,000,000 66% of which was returned to shareholders. We repurchased $329,000,000 of common stock and paid $308,000,000 in dividends.

Speaker 2

Adjusted oil production increased 4% from the Q4 2022 to the Q4 of 2023, driven by Midland and Delaware production, which was up in excess of 20% over the same time period. We successfully appraised the Sapakara and Crabdagu discoveries on Block 58 in Suriname, identifying an estimated 700,000,000 barrels of recoverable oil resource. On the ESG front, we now have implemented more than 70% of the projects necessary to achieve our 2022 goal of eliminating 1,000,000 tons of annual CO2 equivalent emissions by the end of this year. Additionally, we replaced or converted more than 2,000 pneumatic devices in the United States during 2023, which aligns with our priority to reduce methane emissions across our operations. And lastly, I want to recognize our operation teams for delivering the lowest recordable incident rate since we began tracking and reporting this metric.

Speaker 2

We highly value this commitment to safety and excellence and thank you for your continued diligence on this front. Moving to Q4 results, upstream capital investment of $520,000,000 was slightly above guidance as we spent $27,000,000 on the initial phase of our winter exploration program in Alaska. The U. S. Delivered another strong quarter with oil production in line with guidance and up 12% compared to the Q4 last year.

Speaker 2

Throughout 2023, our 5 rig drilling program was highly efficient, meeting or exceeding all key performance metrics. Similarly, well connections and well performance were in line with or better than expectations. Our Midland and Delaware Basin teams are driving outstanding results and we expect that will continue this year. In the North Sea, production for the quarter was below guidance due to unplanned compression downtime at both Barrel Alpha and 40s during the month of December. And in Egypt, adjusted production exceeded guidance, primarily due to higher natural gas production and the positive impact of lower oil prices on volumes within the PSC construct.

Speaker 2

Gross oil production, however, was lower than expected for a few reasons. For several quarters now, we have been working through some activity delays and scheduling constraints associated with limited available workover rig capacity in Egypt. In addition to routine well maintenance and uphaul rig completions, we also utilize workover rigs for completing many of our new drill wells. With the increased size and improving efficiency of our drilling program, the demand for workover rigs to complete new wells has exceeded expectations. This meant the workover rigs were doing fewer recompletions than planned and our workover backlog increased throughout the year.

Speaker 2

Thus, while production from the new wells was a bit better than expectations, Egypt gross oil volumes fell behind as we could not adequately support the recompletion and workover programs. Compounding this, we also experienced a number of early life failures on new electrical submersible pumps known as ESPs. During 2023, we had 9 new wells impacted by early ESP failures, 2 of which occurred in the 4th quarter on high volume wells. We have traced this problem to 1 manufacturing facility and the situation is in the process of being remediated. In 2024, we will gear down the Egypt drilling program a bit, which will free up workover rig capacity to reduce the workover and recompletion backlog.

Speaker 2

I will say more about the effects of this on 2024 activity in a few minutes. Turning now to our 2024 outlook. Given the potential for a flat to lower price environment this year, we have established an activity plan and budget based on $70 WTI $75 Brent. We continue to diligently manage overhead and operating costs and we are reducing our total capital investment to less than $2,000,000,000 This includes approximately $100,000,000 of investment for exploration activities and $50,000,000 for feed work and potential long lead items in Suriname. This year's budget will redirect capital to the Permian Basin, resulting in reduced Egypt drilling program, which I mentioned earlier.

Speaker 2

The outcome of this investment profile should be relatively flat year over year adjusted oil and natural gas production, but lower NGL volumes given our current plans to reject ethane. As in 2023, we expect robust Permian oil production growth to roughly offset production declines in the North Sea, while Egypt adjusted production remains relatively flat. In the U. S, total volumes will be up about 2 percent on a BOE basis, despite our current plan to reject ethane for the entirety of 2024. We also project a strong finish to the year with U.

Speaker 2

S. Oil production up more than 10% in the Q4 of 'twenty four compared to the Q4 of 'twenty three. This growth will be driven by the Midland and Delaware Basins, where we expect to achieve our goal of returning oil production to pre COVID levels by year end. In Egypt, we anticipate that our moderated pace of drilling will result in a gross oil production decline. However, adjusted production should remain relatively flat year over year, primarily due to lower oil price expectations and the moderating effects of the PSC.

Speaker 2

And in the North Sea, with our significant reduction in capital investment prompted by the energy profits levy, we anticipate a roughly 20% year over year production decrease. This includes the effect of a lengthy planned maintenance turnaround that will impact both second and third quarter volumes. Before closing, I'd like to take a minute to highlight our performance in the Permian and provide some thoughts on our pending acquisition of Callon Petroleum. For several years now, APA's Permian operations have been hitting on all cylinders and exceeding oil production guidance. We have delivered continuous improvement in well productivity and capital efficiency and we expect this to continue in 2024.

Speaker 2

Since 2019, we have invested considerable time and technical resources in optimizing our drilling economics in the Permian Basin and the results have been excellent. Our Midland Basin well productivity has moved up into the top quartile producers as measured by 3rd party analysts and we continue to improve Delaware Basin productivity measures each year. The Cowen acquisition we announced in early January will bring scale to our Delaware position and balance to our overall Permian asset base, making it fairly evenly weighted between the Midland and the Delaware upon closing. While Cowen has experienced operational and productivity challenges in the past, more recently they have begun to make good progress towards demonstrating the upside potential of their acreage. By leveraging APA's technical capabilities and work processes across the Cowen acreage, we expect to further build on their progress, most notably in the areas of capital productivity from well spacing, target zone selection, frac design and drilling completion and infrastructure efficiencies.

Speaker 2

When we first announced the acquisition, we assigned only $55,000,000 to operational synergies and improvements. However, we are confident that there is substantial upside to this number. While the transaction is accretive on cost synergies alone, the big win win for shareholders of both companies will be the integration of the assets into a larger Permian platform and the technical optimization, capital allocation, process knowledge and discipline that APA brings to the table. We look forward to updating our 2024 U. S.

Speaker 2

Guidance upon completion of the transaction. In closing, we are managing the business with a clear and consistent strategy, adhering to our discipline and delivering on our commitments and financial objectives. In the last 3 years, we have reduced outstanding bond debt by $3,200,000,000 and repurchased $2,600,000,000 or 20 percent of our shares outstanding. Our Permian Basin and Egypt operations are delivering a high level of free cash flow along with moderate oil growth in aggregate. We have progressed a large scale exploration and appraisal program in Suriname to feed study and we believe this will drive high margin oil production beginning in the 20 28 timeframe.

Speaker 2

And more recently, we have further expanded our exploration portfolio with large scale opportunities in Alaska and offshore Uruguay. While the industry may experience some near term commodity price weakness, we maintain a constructive medium and long term outlook. Accordingly, we will continue to invest a measured amount of capital into differential longer term exploration opportunities. And lastly, we remain fully committed to returning at least 60% of our free cash flow to shareholders through our base dividend and share buybacks. And with that, I will turn the call over to Steve Riney.

Speaker 3

Thank you, John, and good morning. For the Q4, under generally accepted accounting principles, APA reported consolidated net income of $1,800,000,000 or $5.78 per diluted common share. As usual, these results include items that are outside of core earnings, the most significant of which was a $1,600,000,000 increase in net income related to the partial release of the valuation allowance on our deferred tax asset. This was offset by a $167,000,000 after tax increase in the estimated net remaining decommissioning obligation for the old Fieldwood assets in the Gulf of Mexico. Excluding these and other smaller items, adjusted net income for the 4th quarter was $352,000,000 or 1 point $2,000,000 in the quarter.

Speaker 3

Through dividends and share repurchases, we returned 68% of this amount to shareholders during the quarter. And as John noted, for the full year, we returned 66% of free cash flow. Please refer to APA's published definition of free cash flow for any reconciliation needs. G and A expense for the quarter was $75,000,000 This was significantly below guidance, mostly due to the decrease in the APA share price and the mark to market impact on previously accrued share based compensation. In the Q4, our Cheniere gas sales contract contributed free cash flow and pre tax net income of $74,000,000 which was below guidance as LNG margins over Houston Ship Channel narrowed through the quarter.

Speaker 3

Turning to 2024, John already discussed our capital and production guidance. So I will just touch on a few other items of note. Based on recent strip prices, we currently anticipate our Cheniere contract will contribute cash flow of about $100,000,000 for the full year and third party marketing income related to our gas transport obligations will be roughly breakeven. In the Gulf of Mexico, our remaining field wood related decommissioning exposure is now $815,000,000 This is net of remaining security and anticipated future cash flows from the producing properties. These decommissioning costs are estimated to be incurred over the next 10 to 15 years and in 2024 will amount to around $60,000,000 Finally, we are preparing for the closing of the Callon acquisition with the joint integration team working through plans for day 1 and beyond.

Speaker 3

John already indicated our confidence in meeting or exceeding our $55,000,000 goal for annual operational synergies. We are equally focused on the transition of G and A activities and the refinancing of the Cowen debt. At this time, we still expect the sum of the G and A and financing synergies will meet or exceed our goal of $95,000,000 on an annualized basis. A majority of the G and A synergies are expected to be realized on a run rate basis shortly after closing with a small portion requiring a transition period, which may take up to a few months. The financing synergies will be realized within a few days of closing, with the refinancing of the Cowen debt planned ready to be put into effect.

Speaker 3

We noted at the time of the acquisition announcement that the assumption of Callon's debt would increase our leverage metrics slightly. This has had no adverse impact on our discussions with the rating agencies nor on their published outlooks. We continue to target a BBB rating or the equivalent thereof with all three agencies. For this reason, we remain focused on further debt reduction, which will be achieved through the application of cash flow and possible asset divestments. And with that, I will turn the call over to the operator for Q and A.

Operator

Thank you. Our first question comes from Doug Leggate with Bank of America. Your line is now open.

Speaker 4

Thank you. John, good morning and Steve, it's always interesting to hear how the operator tackles it, but I'll take that. Good morning, John. Egypt, it sounds like you've identified the issue. Can you give us some idea as to what the point forward resolution is then?

Speaker 4

When can you anticipate that? I mean ESPs should be sounds like a really simple issue to solve. And now you've identified it, I mean, why would you not get back on a growth trajectory once this is resolved? I guess that's what I'm really trying to figure out. What do you see as the go forward outlook?

Speaker 4

Take your timeline 3 year, 5 year, whatever. And when do you anticipate this turning around?

Speaker 2

Yes, Doug, I'd first start off and say the ESPs was kind of a second factor and kind of piled on. The underlying factor is just the ratio of the workover rigs to the drilling rigs. And these aren't just normal pulling units. These are good sized workover rigs. And if you go back historically, we've usually run close to 2x to 3x the workover rigs to the drilling rig count.

Speaker 2

As we said, we use these work over rigs to complete new wells to perform the recompletions and do the work overs. And our ratio really has been just slightly over 1. And so we're ratcheting back kind of gearing down the rig program. We're still going to run 13 to 15 rigs. So it's not a major reduction, but we want to get the workover count work down.

Speaker 2

We've got a very large asset base there and it's important that we're getting to the key asset base there and it's important that we're getting to the key workovers and the recompletions that underpin those decline rates. And so there's no reason to keep drilling more wells quicker and piling more DUCs into the system right now. It's just not the most efficient use of capital given the work over rigs. On the sub pumps, you're exactly right. These were the high rate sub pumps that we needed as we brought on 9 big wells last year.

Speaker 2

There was a problem with the manufacturing. We've identified that and we are in the process of fixing that. So that will get straightened out and is being addressed right now. But it's really more a function of trying to balance the work over rigs and the number of wells we're drilling with the drilling rigs on a go forward basis to kind of get into equilibrium to make sure we're investing the capital wisely and efficiently and getting the most out of it. So once we work that down, I mean, I'd say today we estimate we've got close to 13,000 barrels a day that's offline that needs to be worked over.

Speaker 2

We usually run around 5,000 barrels a day. So there's about 8,000 barrels a day there. We need to work down and it's going to take a number of workovers and projects to do that. So we're on it. I think once we get into a good equilibrium point, then we can re visit the rig count at a later date.

Speaker 4

And on the medium term production outlook, can you touch on that?

Speaker 2

We're just going to guide the flat adjusted production net production for Egypt for now.

Speaker 4

Okay. We'll watch that. Gosh, I'm kind of torn as to where to go. I wanted to ask about Cowen, but I don't imagine we're going to get much more from that today. So I would like to ask Tracy maybe about the exploration program.

Speaker 4

We only have to look back at some of your peers on what exploration did for their portfolios and it seems to us exploration never gets a look until you've got something to show for it. So characterize for me please how you see the risk profile. Alaska specifically, I believe is near field exploration. You're going to have 3 wells this quarter, I guess. So what I'm assuming you're already halfway through those wells.

Speaker 4

What are you seeing currently? How would you characterize the risk profile of your backlog?

Speaker 2

Yes. I mean, I'll step in just a few things on Alaska, Doug, and then I'll hand it over to Tracy. But one, it's large under explored area. As we put in the supplement today, it's 275,000 acres on state lands. It is highly perspective for what's become a proven play.

Speaker 2

And Tracy can get into some details into that in a minute. We are planning to drill 3 wells this winter. We are very close to spudding the first well. So we're not halfway through any of them at this point, but it's going to get fun here pretty fast. So Tracey, I'll let you talk a little bit more about the program.

Speaker 5

Sure. I'll carry on from what John has mentioned about the exploration program first and then just give a couple of comments, I think, on your initial question around a little more insight onto the program. I think as John said, in Alaska, it's a position that sits between Prudhoe Bay and ANWR in the Brooklyn play. So we've entered into an area where we have analogs there that have worked, but are looking and exploring in an area where that particular play has not really been explored for. So we're testing in a region where play has worked in an underexplored region.

Speaker 5

As you said, we're drilling 3 wells this season. All of those will spud in Q1, and we'll come back with an update on that once we've completed this season's drilling program. I think in terms of just the portfolio, if you look, we talk a lot about play diversification and portfolio diversification. And I think what you're seeing us build is optionality both in risk with some areas that are more proven, with some areas that are going to be more exploration based like the Uruguay licenses that we entered last year. So what we're really seeking to do is build a portfolio that will give us play diversity, both in types of plays, onshore, offshore and with risk through time, both in near term optionality like we're seeing in Alaska and longer term optionality like we're seeing in Uruguay.

Speaker 5

So more to come on Alaska in the near term later this year.

Speaker 2

And Doug, one more thing on your first question. We're limited in Egypt with the number of workover rigs that are in country. So you're not in the U. S. Where you can just go pick up workover rigs and pulling units.

Speaker 2

We're dealing with a constrained resource there. And so we have to kind of gear around that at this point.

Operator

Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from Neal Dingmann with Truett Securities. Your line is now open. Neil, your line is open.

Operator

Please check your mute button.

Speaker 6

Hello. Can you hear me? Yes. Okay. Hi, David.

Speaker 6

My first question is also on Egypt. Specifically, while I understand definitely discuss and understand the need for the activity change in the region. John, could you speak a little bit about what you're seeing on the recent well performance and productivity there versus last year? It seems to still be quite good. We'd love to hear more color on that.

Speaker 2

Yes, Neil. The 2023 program really performed in line as expected. So the new wells were good. We even had some what I'll call some really high success in the Bearnese area where we had the potential to bring on some high impact wells. We just ran into some challenges on the ESP.

Speaker 2

So program has been good and the new well program is in line. So it's all about getting the balance together and just ratcheting back a little bit until we can go faster at a later date.

Speaker 6

No, that makes sense. And then the second question just on the Permian, I appreciate still not having yet the pro form a Calendly. I was wondering, are you able to say anything about just sort of broader decisions if you just simply add the D and C of your activity with theirs? Or I'm just wondering maybe it's too early for that. I'm wondering if it is too early for that, could you maybe instead just talk about the cadence, how we should think about the existing activity there this year?

Speaker 2

Yes. I mean, as we sit today, we're limited on the company to company interaction we have. Both companies have integration teams that are set up on the transition side. And so we're working through that. And as you clear certain hurdles, we can start to interact more.

Speaker 2

But at this point, we're working towards having a very smooth closing and transition. And we really believe that should take place sometime in the second quarter. When you look at our operations, we'll be running 6 rigs Permian this year. They're running 5 and we'll start out with those 11 rigs and we're very comfortable running those 11 rigs and really look forward to being able to integrate the Cowen assets into our work flow and our schedules and so forth, but this is going to take a little bit of time. So as you know, we've been delivering outstanding results and we're anxious to jump on the Delaware assets in addition to what we're doing in the Delaware and our Midland Basin.

Operator

Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from Bob Brackett with Bernstein Research. Your line is now open.

Speaker 7

Hi. I think that's for Bob Brackett.

Speaker 2

Yes, Bob. You're good to go.

Speaker 7

Excellent. Following up with Alaska, kind of a 2 part question around setting expectations of what you're trying to do with this program and when you might be finished. In terms of what you're trying to do, looks like this is a stratigraphic test more than anything and maybe a VSP to get some seismic control. And it looks like you guys have to kind of be done and off the ice end of April and therefore you might have some results by then. Is that fair?

Speaker 2

Yes, Doug, as you know, you're limited on the winter window and we are getting ready to get started with the first well and we'll actually have 3 rigs drilling kind of simultaneously pretty quickly. So we do anticipate being able to get 3 wells down prior to breakup.

Speaker 7

And these are stratigraphic tests?

Speaker 2

Yes. You've got I mean, Tracy could say a few words, but you've got good seismic control and they're fully supported. So we feel good about them, but it is exploration.

Speaker 8

Great. Thanks.

Operator

Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from Charles Meade with Johnson Rice. Your line is now open.

Speaker 9

Good morning, John, to you, Steve, Tracy and the rest of the APA team there. John, my first question, I want to pick up right where you kind of left off, I think, on one of the first questions about Egypt saying that more work over rigs was not is not an option that you're limited there. Is that a time frame for that? In other words, I understand you might not be able to get one in 3 months, but maybe in 12 months you could get a couple more workover rigs. So is that a possibility?

Speaker 9

And then the other aspect of that is, you look at trying to debottleneck your system. Is there a possibility that you could bring in some wireline or coiled tubing to offload some of the work items on your workover rigs?

Speaker 2

Yes, Charles, I'd just say, first of all, short term, there's not any real options. And obviously, those are there are several avenues and things we've explored and been exploring, but getting equipment into a country like Egypt takes time. And so at this point, we don't have any real near term options and something we'd be happy to talk about later if we find a solution. But right now, we're just we're limited to the 20 workover rigs that we currently have.

Speaker 9

Got it. Got it. Appreciate it. And then back to Alaska. I saw I read that one of your partners there referred to the prospects that you're going to test as Pika look alikes and Pika being the Santos development that went FID in 2022.

Speaker 9

So I guess I'm curious, would you agree with that characterization? And for those of us who are just coming up to speed and learning about this, you offer some details on what, if you agree, it is a peak that the prospects are peak of look alikes, what that means?

Speaker 5

Sure. Tracy, thanks Charles. I'll weigh in on that one. Yes, I would agree with that. We're really looking at more play types like Pika and Willow versus Prudhoe Bay, and we're exploring that and that is part of the Brookian play that we're exploring it for, but we're going to be exploring for it in a younger sequence.

Speaker 5

But it's absolutely sort of the same geologic model and setup that we expect to see basically just a bit further east than it's been explored for on the other side of Prudhoe Bay. So, we would agree with that.

Operator

Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from Paul Cheng with Scotiabank. Your line is now open.

Speaker 10

Hi, good morning. John and Tracy, I have to apologize first. If we can go back to Alaska, Let's assume the program is successful. What's the next step and what kind of infrastructure you need to put on in order for that to be able to grow? And what is the timeline on that?

Speaker 2

Yes. First of all, Paul, thanks the question. I'll just say we're in the exploration phase at this point. So we've done a lot of scoping. It's onshore, it's state land, so things can move a little quicker than federal there.

Speaker 2

You're close to a big pipeline capacity, let's work through the exploration phase, see what we find and then go from there at a later date. So but we're excited about it.

Speaker 10

But can you maybe just share that what kind of infrastructure will be needed if it is successful?

Speaker 2

Well, a lot of that will hinge on these are 3 separate tests of similar play concepts and a lot of that would just hinge on what we found. So at this point, we're purely in an exploration phase and we'll just have to come back and give you some characterization if we have the success there that we hope we have.

Speaker 10

I see. On EJ, I just curious that John, is the work over availability issue just happened, something happened in the country and that what used to be available no longer available or that your lead for the workover rate have just increased substantially last year. And if that's the case, then is that something that happening in the reservoir that led to that?

Speaker 2

Yes, I would just say historically, we were running if you go back to pre modernization, we were running 5 drilling rigs and 12 workover rigs. We took the rig count up more than 3x to 15 to 18 and we were only able to take the workover rig count up to 20. So we could only double that when we tripled the drilling set. And initially it wasn't a major problem because we were trying to get the efficiencies lined out on the And ultimately, we've got to make sure we're managing the base. And ultimately we've got to make sure we're managing the base.

Speaker 2

So it's just it's a new phenomena and it's something that ultimately longer term, we're going to need more work over equipment in country and there's just not a good short term fix to that.

Operator

Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from Neil Mehta with Goldman Sachs. Your line is now open.

Speaker 11

Yes. Good morning, John and team. First question I had was just on Cerda. Maybe you could step back, John, big picture, talk about where we stand here. And we know we got the FEED study that you're working through and you're targeting in FID in 2024.

Speaker 11

But what are you focused on as it relates to Suriname and any updates as it relates to that project?

Speaker 2

Neil, first of all, thanks for the question. Secondly, that's exactly where we sit today. We're working with Total, they're in FEED study. We've kind of laid a timeline out there that we anticipate an FID before year end 2024, which is this year, which is great news. And then as of right now, we would say first oil in 2018.

Speaker 2

But I can tell you, our partner and us are working hard to try to accelerate those timelines, but that's where we are at this point. So we remain excited. We do see additional exploration potential in Block 58. Right now, we've kind of got most of the attention on the move in the first development project forward.

Speaker 11

Thanks, John. And then the follow-up, we haven't really talked in Q and A about the U. S. Production profile over the course of the year. Just maybe talk about your Permian plans.

Speaker 11

It sounds like it's going to be a little bit back half weighted with strong growth exit to exit. So just any thoughts on Permian oil and navigating the weakness obviously in local gas prices there too?

Speaker 2

Yes, Neal, we've had a number of good running years of really outperformance in the Permian. And when you're running 5 to 6 rigs, which is what we've done and it becomes very pad dominated in terms of your timing and your sequences. And yes, we don't have a number of very many wells coming on early this year. Things are kind of second and third quarter back weighted with the way the schedule works. And so you'll see strong Permian growth on the oil side.

Speaker 2

We're anticipating up 10% Q4, twenty four over twenty 23 and that's going to more than offset the decline in the North Sea. So continues to be the underpin our backbone and we're going to continue to lean on Permian.

Operator

Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from Arun Jayaram with JPMorgan Securities. Your line is

Speaker 8

now open. Yes. Good morning, gentlemen. I wanted to first see if you could talk about the payment situation in Egypt. We did see an improvement in the working capital situation in the quarter.

Speaker 8

But Steve, maybe you could provide an update on where you stand in terms of AR and how the collection trends have been with the Egyptian government?

Speaker 3

Yes, Arun. As you know, we've talked about this a number of times since every quarter. We have a very active and constructive working relationship with Egypt, but it does require that ongoing conversation and work of the issue. 4th quarter, we ended 4th quarter with our lowest quarter end past due receivables for the year from EGPC. And so we continue to make progress.

Speaker 3

They've come down through the year. They kind of peaked in early Q2. Today, we're about 25% to 30% below where we were at that peak level. So they're still elevated, past due receivables still elevated from EGPC, but they're lower and trending in the right direction have been pretty much through

Speaker 8

the whole year. Great to hear. And Steve, my follow-up is, I wanted to go to if you could go to Slide 30 in the deck and just talk about I want to understand a little bit more about the abandonment cost impact to cash flow. Your costs incurred for the year were 979,000,000 dollars Your total upstream capital is $520,000,000 Most of the delta is just the ARO. So in 4Q, did you all have an outflow for that, call it, dollars 347,000,000 for ARR?

Speaker 8

And is $60,000,000 what you mentioned in 2024 maybe a good run rate for the next several years?

Speaker 3

So you're talking about the ARO for Fieldwood?

Speaker 8

Yes, sir. Slide 30. Okay.

Speaker 3

So that does not go through the capital program there. A there's a booked liability on the decommissioning obligation there. And so it doesn't go through the capital program. It doesn't show up as capital expenditure.

Speaker 8

Right. So but I'm looking at the costs incurred, which were $979,000,000 in the quarter. Were there any outflows associated or maybe you could quantify the magnitude of outflows with ARO in 2023?

Speaker 3

Yes. Can we maybe we could just take that offline instead of reconciling through the group here. I'll work with Gary to get back in touch with you. We can work through. I just want to make sure we understand the question.

Speaker 8

Okay, fair enough. Thanks, Steve.

Operator

Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from Leo Mariani with ROTH MKM. Your line is now open.

Speaker 3

Hi. Just wanted to try

Speaker 12

to get back to the exploration discussion here. Just wanted to see if you guys could provide a little bit more color on kind of the risk profile in Alaska. I mean, do you see these wells as kind of 1 in 2 shots, kind of 1 in 5? Just anything you could do to quantify some of the risk profile would be helpful. And then on just Block 53 in Suriname, looks like you relinquished most of that block.

Speaker 12

Just any update on the thinking there?

Speaker 2

Yes, Leo, I'll jump to Suriname first. I think we've been pretty clear that we see more exploration upside remaining in Block 58 versus Block 53. And so it was an easy answer to go ahead and let 53 go. When you look at the risk profile on Alaska, these are 3 d and amplitude supported, but you're going to be at this is a step out in an area where there's risk associated with it. So I'm not going to give you a number on a ratio, but it is exploration.

Speaker 2

We're taking we're going to drill 3 wells and they are risky, but they're high reward. So and I don't know, Tracey, anything you want to add to that?

Speaker 5

Yes, I'll just comment, I think, on a little on both pieces, which is the Block 53 exit. I think we saw in the we mentioned on the previous calls that we really saw the prospectivity in Block 58 as being more perspective than what we saw in Block 53. So what you're seeing with that exit really is the strategic portfolio management and continuous high grading of the portfolio, where we saw more prospectivity both in Block 58 and in other opportunities that we had in front of us. And I would just echo what John said on Alaska. We have a range because these are exploration prospects that have risk associated with them.

Speaker 5

But clearly, what interested us in the block is that we do see materiality with these prospects that warranted exploration.

Speaker 12

Okay. That's helpful. And just wanted to follow-up on some of the comments that you guys made here. Wanted to make sure I understood this. Did I hear a comment that APA might be adjusting its headcount a little bit downward in response to some of the lower activity levels?

Speaker 12

I know clearly that once you guys integrate Callon, I'm sure you'll have to take a fresh look at the whole organization. But did I hear that right that perhaps you think that maybe you might cut some of the APA headcount here at some point?

Speaker 2

I mean, I'll just say, we're always looking to right size organization with activity levels. I think the comment in the prepared remarks was that we find ourselves in a much lower price environment. We were always willing to reduce activity and associated staff if we need to do so. But we have gone through an exercise in the North Sea as we're kind of rightsizing for late life. And so we have gone through some steps there, but we're quite frankly very excited about integrating the Callon assets and pulling those into the organization.

Speaker 2

We do see some synergies there, but activity levels are still going to be strong and relatively close to where we were last year.

Operator

Thank you. I'm showing no further questions at this time. I would now like to turn it back to John Christmann, CEO for closing remarks.

Speaker 2

Yes. Thank you. We have chosen to reduce our capital this year and maintain roughly flat production given the potential for a lower commodity price environment while still funding our strategic initiatives. We have intentionally directed more capital towards the Permian, which is performing at an extremely high level. And we look forward to integrating the Cowen assets into our Permian operations as well.

Speaker 2

And lastly, we will keep you up to date on our progress in Suriname and our other exploration plays. Thank you, operator.

Operator

This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.

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