Driven Brands Q4 2023 Earnings Call Transcript

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February 22, 2024

There are 14 speakers on the call.

Operator

Good morning. My name is Ludi, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Driven Brands Q4 and Fiscal 2023 Earnings Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question and answer session.

Operator

Thank you. I will now turn the call over to Joel Arnau, Senior Vice President of Finance. Joel, you may begin your conference.

Speaker 1

Good morning, and welcome to Driven Brands' 4th quarter and 2023 earnings conference call. The earnings release and the leverage ratio reconciliation are available for download on our website at investors. Drivenbrands.com. On the call today with me are Jonathan Fitzpatrick, President and Chief Executive Officer Danny Rivera, Executive Vice President and Chief Operating Officer and Gary Ferreira, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. In a moment, Jonathan, Danny and Gary will walk you through our financial and operating performance for the quarter fiscal year 2023.

Speaker 1

Before we begin our remarks, I'd like to remind you that management will refer to certain non GAAP financial measures. You can find the reconciliations to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures on the company's Investor Relations website and in its filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. During the course of this call, we may also make forward looking statements in regards to our current plans, beliefs and expectations. These statements are not guarantees of future performance and are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties and other factors that could cause actual results and events to differ materially from the results and events contemplated by these forward looking statements. Please see our earnings release and our filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission for more information.

Speaker 1

Today's prepared remarks will be followed by a question and answer session. We ask you to limit yourself to one question and one follow-up. Now I'll turn it over to my partner, Jonathan.

Speaker 2

Good morning. We appreciate everyone joining us to discuss Driven Brands' Q4 and full year 2023 financial results. I want to acknowledge the hard work and strong execution by our more than 10,000 Driven Brands team members and our amazing franchisees for how they continue to navigate an extremely dynamic macroeconomic environment. Now it's been several months since we last communicated and I'm pleased to report that we delivered on our latest guidance for Q4 fiscal year 2023. Let me review some of our fiscal year 2023 highlights before turning it over to Danny, who will discuss our operating segments and Gary, who will detail our Q4 financial results and full year 2024 outlook.

Speaker 2

For fiscal year 2023, we delivered 13% revenue growth versus prior year, supported by 7% same store sales growth and 4% net store growth, achieving adjusted diluted EPS of $0.93 We continue to be pleased by the performance of our Take 5 oil change and franchise businesses, all being key contributors to fiscal year 2023 growth. I want to take a few moments to speak about one of the key drivers of our performance, Take 5 Oil Change. We have grown this business from less than 60 solely company operated locations in 2016 to over 1,000 locations today, comprised of approximately 65% company stores and approximately 35% franchise stores. Looking back on some 2023 milestones for Take 5 Oil Change, we celebrated our 1 thousandth store opening, our 3 hundredth franchise store opening and we exceeded $1,000,000,000 in annual system wide sales, all while maintaining an industry leading Net Promoter Score of approximately 77%. Take 5 oil change system wide sales grew by 26% year over year, driven by 14% same store sales and 18% unit growth.

Speaker 2

We opened 98 franchise locations and 59 company locations in fiscal year 2023. Now looking ahead between company and franchise stores, we have a pipeline of over 1,000 stores expected to open in the coming years, approximately 75% of which will be franchised. Now some additional highlights for Driven in 2023 include building out our U. S. Glass platform and strong performance from our asset light high margin franchise businesses.

Speaker 2

Additionally, our fleet team delivered our best ever year with approximately $470,000,000 of system wide sales. Now our total commercial business represents approximately 50% of total system wide sales when you include sales from our insurance partners in glass, collision and paint. Commercial sales are incredibly important to Driven because our franchisees like the business and the sales are predictable and sticky. This is a great balance to our retail sales. Now turning to 2024.

Speaker 2

January was a challenging month with sales being impacted by multiple storms, flooding and freezing temperatures across many of our markets. And we estimate this could negatively impact performance in Q1. However, we don't see this having a material impact on the full year. We have made and continue to make progress to improve the underperformance in our U. S.

Speaker 2

Car Wash and U. S. Glass businesses. Now let me give you an update on our full Car Wash segment. The headline is that we improved margins from approximately 17% in Q3 to over 23% in Q4.

Speaker 2

This approximate 600 basis point improvement was primarily from our U. S. Operations. This is the result of great work from Danny, who has been focusing on the U. S.

Speaker 2

And continued performance from Tracy and our international team. As mentioned on our previous earnings call, we have stopped all growth capital and will not open new U. S. Car wash stores until we determine the base business is performing up to our expectations. Additionally, the team is making good progress on divesting any pipeline properties we owned when we made this decision.

Speaker 2

And we expect that during fiscal year 2024, we will likely see a meaningful return of capital from selling these pipeline sites. Now switching to U. S. Glass. As of today, the integration of all the acquisitions is behind us.

Speaker 2

The team is now focused on improving performance and positioning for future growth. And Danny will provide further color in his remarks. Now my focus for 2024 is delivering our guidance, reducing debt and finally active portfolio management, which means making sure that Driven has the right assets to execute on our short, medium and longer term goals. In conclusion, we have a platform that generates high steady state returns with a long runway for reinvestment at exceptional returns. And we're incredibly motivated to see our valuation mirror our results over time.

Speaker 2

Now let me hand it over to Danny, our Chief Operating Officer to discuss our key business segments.

Speaker 3

Thanks, Jonathan. During the Q4, our team really rolled up their sleeves and got to work on the commitments we made to finish 2023 strong and set the foundation for growth in 2024. I'd like to thank our team members and franchisees for all their hard work and for a strong Q4. As Jonathan has said, driven is growth and cash. When it comes to running the businesses, I think and manage them accordingly.

Speaker 3

Businesses like Take 5 Oil Change, Auto Glass Now and platforms like Driven Advantage are managed to deliver accelerated growth in terms of revenue, adjusted EBITDA and new units. Cash businesses like Meineke, Mako, Carstar and 1-eight 100 Radiator are managed to deliver strong margins and cash flow. With that background, let's dive into Take 5 oil change, home of the stay in your car 10 minute oil change. This quarter, on a year over year basis, Take 5 delivered over 9% revenue growth, same store sales growth of about 7%, adjusted EBITDA growth of almost 14%, and we expanded adjusted EBITDA margins by about 150 basis points. Moreover, Take5 opened an additional 54 stores in the 4th quarter, 28 company locations and 26 franchise locations.

Speaker 3

Once again, Take 5 Oil Change has met or outpaced our competition. Take 5 Oil Change has delivered positive same store sales growth for 14 quarters in a row by delivering fast, friendly and simple oil changes with a Net Promoter Score in the upper 70s. We also remain poised to continue to grow Take 5 oil change by over 150 units per year for the foreseeable future, with the majority of those sites being asset light franchise locations. Special congratulations to Moe Khalid, President of Take 5 Oil Change and our Take 5 team members and franchisees on opening their 1,000th location and 300th franchise location in 2023. Within our PC and G segment, I want to provide more color on our Auto Glass Now business.

Speaker 3

I'm happy to say that as of today, the integration is behind us. Auto Glass Now is operating as one brand with one operating playbook. We have implemented our core systems and processes, including 1 point of sale system, 1 phone and lead management system, one payroll system and comp plan, and we've centralized purchasing. I'd like to thank Michael Macaluso, EVP of our PC and G segment and the entire Business and Shared Services team for working diligently to position Auto Glass Now for improved performance in 2024. Moving on to our Platform Services segment, which is comprised of our distribution and procurement businesses.

Speaker 3

We delivered strong year with double digit growth in both revenue and adjusted EBITDA, while simultaneously increasing margins. Launched in 2023, Driven Advantage is an Amazon like marketplace where managers or owners of automotive businesses can purchase everything they need to run their shop. This includes everyday items like pens and computer paper to industry specific products like oil and paints. Driven advantage truly is a win, win, win. Franchisees win by leveraging driven scale and buying power to lower their costs and increase their profits.

Speaker 3

Vendors win by generating revenue more efficiently across a captive audience. And driven wins by capturing margin on sales that flow through the platform without holding any inventory. Kyle Marshall, EVP of Platform Services and his team have done a great job in a short period of time. As of December 30, 2023, over 2,300 locations, including over half of eligible U. S.

Speaker 3

Driven locations, have generated over $240,000,000 in transactions. I will wrap up my overview with our Car Wash segment. Our main focus in Q4 was to improve the variable cost structure of the U. S. Business.

Speaker 3

Thanks to a lot of focus and diligence by our field teams, we successfully grew our segment adjusted EBITDA margins by over 600 basis points sequentially, with most of the improvement coming from our U. S. Business, mostly due to our continued focus on detergent costs and labor. Although we continued to see softer retail volumes in the U. S, particularly in January due to the winter storms and freezing temperatures across the country, we feel good about the improvements we've made to the variable cost structure of our U.

Speaker 3

S. Car Wash business. Our international Car Wash business, under the leadership of Tracy Gellan, continues to deliver quarter after quarter of solid business performance with the Q4 being no exception. Historically, we haven't discussed our legacy franchise businesses too often, but these businesses are an important part of Driven's DNA. Businesses like Meineke, Mako and Carstar are amazing businesses run by amazing franchisees.

Speaker 3

These are efficient, cash generating businesses that perform to expectations quarter after quarter. In 2023, each of these businesses delivered positive revenue and double digit adjusted EBITDA growth. Also, because these are capital light franchise businesses, they produced adjusted EBITDA margins in excess of 50%. Lastly, I'm thrilled to say that we've recently made some strategic hires within the businesses. Within the next 60 days, you'll see press releases from us announcing a new President of our U.

Speaker 3

S. Car Wash Business, an SVP of Operations for Take 5 Oil Change and a new Chief Revenue Officer for Auto Glass Now. I'm thrilled with these hires and believe each of these individuals will be instrumental in growing these important businesses. I will now turn it over to my partner and CFO, Gary.

Speaker 4

Thanks, Danny, and welcome, everyone. Before diving into our results, I would like to start out by discussing 2 administrative points. First, we are making a change to how we report our non GAAP financial measures. Starting with the filing of our 10 ks, we will no longer add back straight line rent to arrive at adjusted EBITDA, adjusted income and adjusted EPS. As a reminder, this adjustment consisted of the non cash portion of rent expense.

Speaker 4

This adjustment in FY 2023 was $18,200,000 and the approximate quarterly breakout is as follows. Q1, dollars 4,400,000 Q2, dollars 4,600,000 Q3, dollars 5,200,000 and in Q4, dollars 4,000,000 We estimate that in FY 2024, the adjustment would approximate $15,000,000 dollars We're using this earnings release as an opportunity to smoothly transition to our revised reporting. You will see it reported both ways in our earnings release for both total company and segment adjusted EBITDA. To minimize confusion, I will primarily use the previous methodology in my remarks until I start discussing the full year 2024 outlook. 2nd, we will no longer be providing the same store sales growth metric for the Platform Services segment as it only applied to 1-eight 100 Radiator, a small portion or approximately 15% of the segment's revenue Q4 and therefore is not a representative indicator of the segment's performance.

Speaker 4

However, system wide sales for 1-eight 100 Radiator are still available in our filings. Now I will discuss our results. I joined Driven Brands just over 9 months ago and we've been laser focused on delivering the outlook we provided in early August, while also stabilizing parts of the business in order to set ourselves up to deliver strong 2024. I am pleased to say that we met or exceeded all the financial metrics that we provided in our updated 2023 outlook. We guided to revenue of approximately $2,300,000,000 and we generated slightly more.

Speaker 4

We said we would deliver approximately $535,000,000 in adjusted EBITDA and we delivered $535,100,000 Adjusted diluted EPS came in at $0.93 which is just above the outlook of $0.92 per share that we provided.

Speaker 3

I want

Speaker 4

to thank all our team members for their efforts in getting us across the finish line this year. I will now dive a little deeper into our full year results. System wide sales for the year were $6,300,000,000 up 12.1% versus prior year. This growth was driven by both the addition of 183 net new stores and 7.4% same store sales growth. Our reported revenue for the year was $2,300,000,000 an increase of 13.3%.

Speaker 4

We delivered adjusted EBITDA of 5 $35,100,000 for the year, an increase of 4.2%. Adjusted EBITDA margin was 23.2%, approximately 200 basis points below the prior year, primarily driven by U. S. Car Wash store growth and increased rent from sale leasebacks related to that store growth, as well as the impact of working through the integration of multiple U. S.

Speaker 4

Glass acquisitions. Margin was also impacted by the increase company owned stores versus franchise stores. Now I will focus on some key components below adjusted EBITDA. Depreciation and amortization expense totaled $175,000,000 for the full year, reflecting a $28,000,000 increase from the prior year, mainly due to company owned store growth. Additionally, interest expense was 164,000,000 dollars a $50,000,000 increase from 2022 driven by the full year impact of the 2022 notes, the higher interest rates on our variable rate debt and increased utilization of the revolver.

Speaker 4

Our effective tax rate for the year was approximately 12%. This is significantly lower than FY 2022 primarily due to the impact of the goodwill impairment recorded in Q3 of FY2023. We delivered adjusted net income of $155,900,000 and adjusted diluted EPS of $0.93 which were down 25% and 23.8 percent year over year respectively. The change year over year is driven primarily by the increased depreciation and interest expense. You can find a reconciliation of adjusted net income, adjusted EPS and adjusted EBITDA in today's earnings release.

Speaker 4

For clarity, our results under our revised reporting, which will no longer add back straight line rent expenses are as follows. Adjusted EBITDA of $516,900,000 adjusted net income of $142,500,000 and adjusted diluted EPS of $0.85 In 2023, we delivered $235,000,000 in cash flow from operating activities, an increase of 19.3 percent or up $38,000,000 versus 2022. This is after spending approximately $20,000,000 towards the development of a new ERP system during the year. Capital expenditures for the year were 596,000,000 dollars offset by $195,000,000 of proceeds from sale leaseback activity. Net leverage at year end was 4.96 times.

Speaker 4

Now moving on to the Q4. As a reminder, FY2023 was a 52 week year, but FY2022 was a 53 week year. Therefore, in Q4 2023, we are comparing against the prior year quarter that had one additional week. On a consolidated basis versus Q4 2022, our system wide sales were 1,500,000,000 representing a 3% increase from the prior year period, driven by a 3.9% increase in same store sales. Q4 represented our 12th straight quarter of same store sales growth.

Speaker 4

This translated into reported revenue for the quarter of 554,000,000 dollars an increase of 2.6%. This growth was primarily led by our maintenance and PC and G segments. Adjusted EBITDA was $129,000,000 down slightly versus $130,000,000 in the same quarter last year, but in line with expectations provided on our last earnings call. 4th quarter adjusted EBITDA margin was 23.3%, down 87 basis points versus last year, primarily due to our U. S.

Speaker 4

Car Wash and U. S. Glass businesses. Adjusted net income was $31,000,000 for the quarter, resulting in adjusted diluted EPS for the quarter of $0.19 versus $0.25 in the prior year period. I'll now focus on our Q4 performance by segment.

Speaker 4

We are pleased with the same store sales growth of 4.7% and maintenance, our largest segment. Revenue from this segment grew 8.9% over the prior year period. This was primarily driven by our Take 5 oil change business, which continues to perform strongly across both our franchise and company owned locations. Maintenance segment adjusted EBITDA margin increased by over 140 basis points versus Q4 2022 due to flow through from strong top line performance as well as continued focus on operational efficiency. This drove an increase in segment adjusted EBITDA of 13.3 percent or $10,300,000 to 87,500,000 dollars In our Car Wash segment, we experienced the same store sales decline of 3.3% versus the prior year period.

Speaker 4

This decline was driven by our U. S. Car Wash operations. Total segment revenue decreased 1%. The Car Wash segment adjusted EBITDA margin decreased to 23.2% in the quarter from 26.9% in Q4 2022, resulting in segment adjusted EBITDA of 30 point $8,000,000 In our Paint Collision and Glass segment, we achieved positive same store sales of 6.4% representing 11 straight quarters of same store sales growth.

Speaker 4

Segment adjusted EBITDA margin was 27% versus 28.2% in Q4 2022 resulting in a $2,900,000 decline in adjusted EBITDA. This decline is directly attributable to our U. S. Glass business where we were working through the operational challenges that Danny previously mentioned. In our Platform Services segment, revenue increased 5.6% over the prior year period.

Speaker 4

Platform Services segment adjusted EBITDA was $18,600,000 Margin decreased to 36.7% from 37.6% in Q4 2022 due to a positive one time item in the prior year period. I will now turn to our fiscal 2024 full year financial outlook. As a reminder, our 2024 outlook no longer includes the straight line rent add back to adjusted EBITDA, adjusted net income and adjusted EPS that I mentioned earlier. Historically, the company has provided point outlook, but going forward, we will use ranges. For the full year, we expect revenue to be between $2,350,000,000 $2,450,000,000 a growth rate of approximately 2% to 6% over 2023.

Speaker 4

Adjusted EBITDA will be between $535,000,000 and $65,000,000 a growth rate of approximately 4% to 9% over 2023. And adjusted diluted EPS is expected to be between $0.88 to $1 a growth rate of approximately 4% to 18%. The bottom end of our outlook reflects potential impacts from macroeconomic uncertainty and weather. As Jonathan previously mentioned, we've seen significant storm activity across the nation so far this year. The range also reflects various rates of improvement in our U.

Speaker 4

S. Car wash and U. S. Glass operations throughout the year. The top end of our outlook is consistent with what we shared at our Investor Day.

Speaker 4

The slight difference in revenue outlook versus what we shared that day is driven primarily by refranchising and closures of company owned stores and other asset dispositions since September 2023. However, we have held adjusted EBITDA as we continue to focus on cost efficiencies. We expect same store sales growth of 3% to 5% for 2024, which primarily reflects continued growth in our maintenance segment as well as improvement in both our car wash and PCNG segments. We expect net store growth of approximately 205 to 220 stores during the year. Maintenance should be approximately 165 to 185 net new stores, of which approximately 65% will be franchised.

Speaker 4

In our PC and G segment, we expect net store growth of 25 to 35 stores with 85% franchise. And finally, in our Car Wash segment, we currently anticipate net store growth of 5 to 10 stores, all in the international portion of the business. We expect depreciation and amortization expense of approximately 175,000,000 dollars and we expect interest expense of approximately 170,000,000 which is in line with our FY 2022 effective tax rate. Gross capital investments are expected to be approximately $260,000,000 which is less than half of the amount spent in 2023. CapEx spend is expected to be partially offset by approximately $40,000,000 of sale leasebacks of our owned real estate, primarily in our maintenance segment.

Speaker 4

This results in net CapEx of approximately $220,000,000 which is in line with what we shared at our Investor Day in September. As I mentioned at our Investor Day in September, we have embarked on an enterprise resource planning or ERP project. We are early in the process of replacing multiple legacy ERP systems with Oracle Fusion. This is very similar to a successful implementation that we executed at a previous company where I was CFO about 5 years ago. While this is a significant investment in the future of our business, U.

Speaker 4

S. GAAP does not consider investments in cloud computing to be a capital investment. Therefore, the ERP investment flows through cash flows from operating activities instead of cash used in investing activities. We will spend approximately $30,000,000 in 2024 on upgrading our ERP system. Let me wrap up our discussion of our 2024 outlook by talking about the distribution of adjusted EBITDA throughout the year.

Speaker 4

While we don't provide specific quarterly outlook, we thought it best to offer some direction as we expect significant variability in growth by quarter. As I mentioned on previous calls, we expect to see most of our adjusted EBITDA growth to come in the second half of the year as we lap weaker comparable and see continued improvement in our U. S. Car Wash and U. S.

Speaker 4

Glass businesses. We currently anticipate that approximately 80% of our total year over year dollar growth will fall in the second half. Similar to 2023, we expect adjusted EBITDA to peak in Q2 and then decline sequentially throughout the remainder of the year. Additionally, as Jonathan mentioned earlier, we had major storms impacting large swaths of the country in January. Therefore, I am anticipating that even with maintaining strong cost controls over the next few weeks, we expect Q1 adjusted EBITDA to be in line with our Q4 2023 results and only slightly above our Q1 2023 results.

Speaker 4

In FY 2024, we will be laser focused on generating free cash flow and reducing debt as we move throughout the year. Therefore, we currently estimate driving leverage down to below 4.5 times by year end with most of the reduction occurring in the second half of the year. With that, I'll now turn it back over to the operator.

Operator

Thank you. Your first question comes from the line of Peter Benedict from Baird. Your line is open.

Speaker 5

Hey, guys. Good morning. Thanks for taking the question. First, maybe Gary, just as you think about the 24 percent EBITDA guidance, I think growth in the range of $20,000,000 to $50,000,000 roughly. Maybe talk about the buckets driving that.

Speaker 5

I'd assume the majority of that is coming from maintenance, but just maybe if you can break that down a little bit more. And as you think about Car Wash, do you think that that EBITDA is down year over year or can that be flat? Just any color around that would be helpful. Thank you.

Speaker 4

Yes, Pete. Got it. Yes, so we don't guide specifically to segment EBITDA. We haven't in the past and we don't plan on going forward. But when based on themes we've talked about so far, obviously, a lot of our growth is coming from take 5 oil, right?

Speaker 4

So maintenance, you'd expect obviously to be a little bit higher. And car wash and U. S. Car wash and U. S.

Speaker 4

Collapse, as I mentioned, are probably going to come along stronger as the year progresses. So I don't Danny, I don't know if you have anything you want to add there, but I think that's as far as I want to get with segment projections.

Speaker 5

Nothing to add to that. Okay. No, that's fine. And then the just second question would be really around the capital you guys expect from monetizing the Car Wash pipeline. I don't know if you can speak to the timing of that or magnitude, just an update on that process and when you think we have that kind of wrapped up?

Speaker 5

Thank you.

Speaker 2

Hey, Pete, it's Jonathan. Yes, we kicked that off into the late Q3, early Q4 last year. We've divested the first of those pipeline sites in early this year. I think it will happen throughout the course of the year and meaningful for me it's north of $100,000,000 of capital that should come back over the course of the year. But it will be fairly

Speaker 1

spread out throughout the course of the year.

Speaker 5

Okay. Thanks, Jonathan. Good luck, guys.

Speaker 2

Thanks.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Seth Sigman from Barclays. Your line is open.

Speaker 6

Hey, good morning, everyone. I wanted to focus on the Maintenance segment and the profitability. The margins there have been impressive. They've generally exceeded, I think, expectations that you laid out from the very start. Can you just elaborate on the drivers and remind us how you think about the opportunity from here?

Speaker 3

Yes. Hey, Seth, this is Danny. Thanks for the question. So look, yes, we're super happy with the Take 5 business, as Jonathan mentioned in his opening remarks. Mo Khaled and the team have done an amazing job, not just driving revenue, but also to your point, kind of managing the middle of the P and L.

Speaker 3

So look, most of the major drivers there, we continue to manage labor quite effectively. That's been a practice that's been going on for probably a year and a half now and Moe and the team have done a really nice job managing labor. Also managing our commodity costs in the middle of the P and L is something that the team has been focused on. And we've been using price quite effectively through the course of the last 18 months. So really happy with that business, really happy with the work that Mo has been doing and also really happy with the shift that we've been seeing in PMICs, right.

Speaker 3

So we've been seeing customers kind of buying the upper end of our offerings there and that trend has continued for some time now. So just really happy with the work that the team has been doing.

Speaker 6

Okay, very helpful. So then I'll give Peter's question another shot here. As we think about the guidance, right, I realize you don't want to break down the segments, but it would seem like based on the performance of maintenance and based on the trajectory that it pretty much drives all of the EBITDA growth. So if that's right, can you just help us frame some of the offsets? Thank you.

Speaker 2

Seth, Jonathan, I'll try and take this one. Really, if you look at the EBITDA growth for 2024, it's very much in line with sort of the 3 year outlook that we gave at Investor Day, where the majority of the growth was coming from maintenance, supported by U. S. Glass and then supported by our procurement efforts and driven advantage. So those are the three areas that are consistent with the Investor Day as we think about growth in 2024, which obviously supports the thesis on the 3 year outlook as well.

Speaker 5

Okay. Thanks guys.

Operator

Thank you. And your next question comes from the line of Chris O'Cull from Stifel. Your line is open.

Speaker 7

Yes, thanks. Danny, you mentioned Take 5 comps were up 7%. I'm just curious how much of that is coming from card count growth versus check growth? And how do you expect the comp will break down over the course of this year for that business? And then also is there going to be any new services offered in 2020 4 to kind of help grow the check?

Speaker 3

Hey, Chris. Thank you for the question. So look, as far as comp growth is concerned, we don't get into the details of exactly which part how much of it is traffic versus check. But suffice it to say, the team has been growing both sides of that equation pretty healthily here for a long period of time. So we feel really good about the fact that number 1, we're growing comps and number 2, that we have a healthy balance in that growth, be it both car count and check size.

Speaker 3

From a new services perspective, we continue to really focus in on PMICs, I would say, and then Big 5 attachment. So PMICs for us, think in terms of the types of oil that folks are buying. So whether it's kind of the lower end of the spectrum or the upper end of the spectrum, for some time now, we've been delivering successfully growing that PMICs into the upper end of the spectrum. So Mo and the team have done a really nice job of that. And I see that continuing through 2024.

Speaker 3

Towards the end of last year, we did add one item, which is a fuel additive service. Hence, we're calling it Big 5 now as opposed to Big 4 historically. That has been a nice kind of growth lever for us this year. It's an easy service. It fits in really nicely with our fast, friendly and simple model.

Speaker 3

So the team has done a nice job driving that and we'll continue to drive that through 2025. And the team also starting in Q4 of last year started to focus in a little bit more on Coolik, which is an existing service that we've been doing for some time. And we've seen nice growth out of that service and that's a really healthy margin service for us. So we'll see more of that continue in 2025.

Speaker 7

That's helpful. And then just quickly on Car Wash, can you help us understand what the margin recovery potential is from variable cost savings? I'm just trying to understand where the cost savings kind of max out and sales recoveries needed to get back to that 30 plus percent wash margin?

Speaker 2

Yes, Chris, it's Jonathan. I'll take a shot at that. Look, we're pleased with the progress, the sequential progress at a segment level from 17% to north of 23% in Q3 to Q4. As we think about 2024, at a minimum, we'd expect to sort of hold on to that sort of 23% consolidated margin. And then obviously, as Danny continues to work on the business, hopefully get that expanded.

Speaker 2

Again, that's on a total Car Wash segment. So I would hope that, that 23% is sort of a floor number and that will continue to chip away at that throughout the year.

Speaker 7

Thanks guys.

Operator

Thank you. And your next question comes from the line of Jason Hans from Bank of America. Your line is open.

Speaker 5

Hey, good morning and

Speaker 8

thanks for taking my questions. Maybe sticking with the Car Wash segment, I'm curious if we could hear a little bit more on what's being done and what's needed to be done to get those comps back to positive. I don't know if you could give us a timeline, but curious if that's a possibility for this year.

Speaker 3

Sure, Jason. Hey, this is Danny. So look, I'd say number 1, as we look at Q4 for the specifically not for the U. S. Car Wash business, we really focused in on the variable cost structure of that business.

Speaker 3

We wanted to get that right and we said out from the outset that we're going to focus in on that part of the business. I think the team did a really nice job with a laser focus on mostly, let's say, labor and detergent costs, and we saw that 600 bp improvement sequentially there in Q4. Coming into 2024, we're going to do kind of 2 things, right? So number 1 is let's hold on to that variable cost structure improvement that we delivered in Q4 and then shift our focus into really driving predictable revenue both on the retail side and the membership side. So more to come in 2024 as we really lean into that part of the business.

Speaker 9

That's great.

Speaker 8

Thank you. And then as a follow-up, I apologize if I missed it, but I wanted to follow-up on Platform Services. It looks like the franchise sales were down quite a bit in 4Q. I think the revenue was actually up year over year. So I wasn't sure exactly what sort of the dynamic was there.

Speaker 8

Apologies if I missed it, but was there any commentary on what was driving that system wide sales? I think it was driven by the franchise sales being down.

Speaker 4

Yes. I mean that's the 1-eight 100 Radiator business, which is a small piece of that. I said I think in my script about 15% of the revenue of that segment. Got it. Okay.

Speaker 4

With growth and everything else.

Speaker 8

Okay. That's helpful. Thanks.

Operator

Thank you. And your next question comes from the line of Christian Carlino from JPMorgan. Your line is open.

Speaker 10

Hi, good morning. Thanks for taking our question. I was wondering if you could talk about how membership penetration has been tracking in the car wash business and have you seen any improvement in there since locations have been rebranded to Take 5 and you've done some of the cross marketing work there? And then to clarify, when you talk to improvement in Car Wash and Glass comps, is the expectation that they should comp positive or just less negative than in 2023?

Speaker 3

Hey, Chris. Danny again. So as far as the Car Wash membership question, look, we don't get into specific KPIs on the membership side. I will say we're happy with the fact that in 2023, we did grow members. So that's good.

Speaker 3

We are right now, we're really focused on making sure that we have the right membership structure. So it's less about the number of members that we have, but having the right members at the right price. You're going to see us continue to experiment with that here in the beginning of 2024. Once we feel like we've got the right structure and program in place, then you'll see us accelerate that through the back half of the year.

Speaker 10

Got it. That's helpful. And then could you talk about the path forward for Glass? Do you still expect to be able to pick up some of the regional insurance business later this year? Or is that more of a 2025 story?

Speaker 10

And you've talked about 10% calibration penetration, not looking for specific guidance here, but where could you see this realistically going over the next year or 2?

Speaker 3

Yes, great. So from a Glass perspective, look, I think 1st and foremost, super excited about the fact that as Jonathan mentioned in his opening remarks, as of today, the integration work is behind us, right? So very excited that the team can actually focus now on growing the business into 2024. I think the path forward looks really good. If we talk about the revenue side of the business, we've talked about this before.

Speaker 3

There's basically three sides to that. So you've got retail, you've got commercial and insurance. We grew all those in 2023 and we're going to really lean in since 2024 and grow that side of the business. Particularly excited about seeing Auto Glass now really lean into the insurance side to your point with the regional insurers, particularly in 2024. From a calibration perspective, calibration continues to be a tailwind for us.

Speaker 3

So part of the integration work that we did was really making sure that we had the stores outfitted with the right equipment, that the team was trained and that we're able to capitalize on that part of the business. That's been a nice tailwind for us in 2023 and we expect it to continue to be a nice tailwind for us going into 2024.

Speaker 10

Got it. Thank you very much and best of luck.

Operator

And your next question comes from the line of Peter Keith from Piper Sandler. Your line is open.

Speaker 11

Hi, thanks. Good morning, everyone. Thanks for taking the question. Just focusing on the TAKE 5, I don't want to scoff at a 7% comp, but it did slow rather meaningfully sequentially from Q3 at up 14%. And I'm wondering if you're just lapping price increases or if you could give any color on continued deceleration, are we going to settle out here at about 7%?

Speaker 3

Hey, Peter. Thanks for the question. Yes, look, you hit it on the head, right? So really the majority of that slowdown was just lapping over price increases that we took Q4 of 2022. So nothing systemic there, just lapping over some price increases.

Speaker 11

Okay, very good. And then just on the 850 EBITDA target, maybe if you can put some context around the straight line rent adjustment. Does that make it harder to reach the target? And it sounds like the guidance for this year is a little bit below what you thought because of some divestitures. So how does that kind of play into the 3 year 850 target?

Speaker 2

Hey Peter, Jonathan here. Yes, I think the guidance for 2024 is literally exactly what we said it would be at Investor Day. So if you go back and look at that, the notes and comments from that, I think it's very much in line with that. In terms of the $850,000,000 the only change would be the whatever it is the $15,000,000 of rent adjustment. That would be the only change to how we think about the $850,000,000 at this point.

Speaker 4

Yes. Peter, the only place where that the EBITDA I said we would hold, the only place where the adjustment you mentioned impacts was on the revenue side, some sales and stuff. So that did have revenue slightly lower, but EBITDA, I said, we'll have cost savings that will make sure that we will get to the 24 number.

Speaker 11

Okay, very good. Thanks so much.

Operator

Thank you. And your next question comes from the line of Brian McNamara from Canaccord Genuity. Your line is open.

Speaker 9

Good morning. This is Madison Callahan of Moncler Brains. Thanks for taking our questions. How much industry capacity is expected to come online for Car Rushing in 2024 in the next few years? And which markets are the most saturated?

Speaker 9

And how many more locations do you expect to close? Thanks guys.

Speaker 2

Madison, your line was a little choppy, but I'll do my best to answer what I think your 700 range in 2023. We expect sort of a similar number in 2024. So I think there's definitely some markets generally not necessarily for us that have some saturation characteristics. In terms of, I think your next question was store closures, other than normal day to day management of our multiunit retail businesses, we don't foresee at this point in time any sort of wholesale closures within our U. S.

Speaker 2

Car Wash business at this point.

Operator

Thanks so much. Thank you. And your next question comes from the line of Simeon Gutman from Morgan Stanley. Your line is open.

Speaker 12

Hey guys, good morning. My question is first on EBITDA margin. If the math is right on the adjustments, it looks like the implied margin should grow by about 50 bps. And if that's not right, then correct it. And can we think about that relative or proportionate to the sales growth by each business?

Speaker 12

Or is there disproportionate given cost savings or efficiency in 1 or more of the segments?

Speaker 4

Yes. Okay. That's a good question to make my head work early this morning. Is the when if I think of the different segments, I mean, you can expect just start with corporate go bottoms up. I don't see that being a big change from year to year.

Speaker 4

So that's not it. But then obviously the maintenance segment would be the biggest driver as we mentioned. And then in the middle, it's just a matter of how it falls out. So I can't guide you to specific segments for the year, but as we mentioned before, the biggest driver will be maintenance. And if you look through the thing all the way down to corporate, I mean corporate will probably it won't detract, but it probably won't add necessarily in the year.

Speaker 2

But Simeon, just to put a fine point on it, your 50 bps expansion is correct.

Speaker 12

Okay. And then one follow-up on Car Wash. I want to ask about this premiumization that's happening, not everywhere. Obviously, one competitor is doing it, but there do seem to be higher price points out in the marketplace. Curious, does that help you in that your price points may be lower?

Speaker 12

Or are you creating new services to match that from a differentiation perspective? Like how does that play into the Car Wash business in the next year or so?

Speaker 2

Yes. The pricing in the industry has been pretty consistent, Sameen, over the last number of years that we've been in the space. So we've not seen any major movement certainly in terms of lowering price. We've seen the addition of premium products in there. So you've seen at the top end of the range higher price points.

Speaker 2

I think that it's important that we have a solid barbell strategy when it comes to pricing, so that we've got the right entry level pricing that will drive trial and acquisition, which is obviously the feeder for getting people to become members. So I think we are continuing to sort of focus on a barbell strategy there. And as Danny mentioned, we're working on some tests right now, which we think could be interesting to leverage price in an accretive way to make sure that we have the right members in place in that car wash business. So I would say, we constantly look at it, but again, sort of this barbell approach is how we're thinking about it.

Speaker 12

Okay. Thanks guys. Good luck.

Speaker 4

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. And your next question comes from the line Philip Blee from William Blair. Your line is open.

Speaker 13

Hi, this is Sabrina on for Philip. Thanks for taking my question. How do you view the health of the retail customer in the Q4? And then what are some of the key growth drivers for improvement in 2024?

Speaker 2

Thanks, Sabrina. I would say that we're continue to be pleased with the overall health of our retail customer. Again, I think it's important to remember the balance of the system wide sales and driven in that 50% of our customer base is commercial or B2B. We've not seen anything that would tell us that we've got stress coming with the U. S.

Speaker 2

Consumer, the retail consumer. However, we watch it very closely. But at this point, we're sort of not seeing any major signs, major movement in sort of the health of the U. S. Consumer at this point.

Speaker 13

Okay. Thank you. That's helpful. And then a quick follow-up. Your guide for the new car wash openings are only international.

Speaker 13

So could you talk to us about the performance and then growth drivers of that segment going forward?

Speaker 2

Yes. We don't split out sort of the details on And there is a lot of white space in Europe. And I think that we are putting some capital to work there to open. I think we guided to about 5 to 10 new store openings this year. So obviously that business continues to perform very strongly and we are not going to put incremental capital into the U.

Speaker 2

S. Business until we feel that business is performing to the expectations we expect.

Speaker 13

Got it. It's helpful. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. And ladies and gentlemen, our Q and A session has now ended. That does conclude today's conference call. Thank you all for participating. You may now disconnect.

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