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Earnings HistoryForecast Federal Agricultural Mortgage EPS ResultsActual EPS$4.10Consensus EPS $3.70Beat/MissBeat by +$0.40One Year Ago EPS$3.16Federal Agricultural Mortgage Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$354.15 millionExpected Revenue$86.86 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$267.29 millionYoY Revenue GrowthN/AFederal Agricultural Mortgage Announcement DetailsQuarterQ4 2023Date2/23/2024TimeBefore Market OpensConference Call DateFriday, February 23, 2024Conference Call Time8:30AM ETUpcoming EarningsFederal Agricultural Mortgage's Q1 2025 earnings is scheduled for Monday, May 5, 2025, with a conference call scheduled at 8:30 AM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Q1 2025 Earnings ReportConference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Annual Report (10-K)SEC FilingEarnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Federal Agricultural Mortgage Q4 2023 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrFebruary 23, 2024 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 11 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Farmer Mac 4th Quarter and Full Year 2023 Results Conference Call. At this time, all lines are in listen only mode. Following the presentation, we will conduct a question and answer session. This call is being recorded on Friday, February 23, 2024. I would now like to turn the conference over to Joppa Nazareth. Operator00:00:30Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:34Good morning, and thank you for joining us for our Q4 and full year 2023 earnings conference call. I'm Jelpa Nazareth, Senior Director of Investor Relations and Finance Strategy here at Farmer Mac. As we begin, please note that the information provided during this call may contain forward looking statements about the company's business, strategies and prospects, which are based on management's current expectations and assumptions. These statements are not a guarantee of future performance and are subject to the risks and uncertainties that could cause our actual results to differ materially from those projected. Please refer to Farmer Mac's 2023 Annual Report on Form 10 ks filed with the SEC today for a full discussion of the company's risk factors. Speaker 100:01:20On today's call, we will also be discussing certain non GAAP financial measures. Disclosures and reconciliations of these non GAAP measures can be found in the 2023 Form 10 ks and earnings press release posted on Farmer Mac's website, farmermac.com, under the Financial Information portion of the Investors section. Joining us from management this morning is our President and Chief Executive Officer, Brad Milholm, who will discuss 2023's business and financial highlights and strategic objectives and Chief Financial Officer, Aparna Ramesh, who will provide greater detail on our financial performance. Select members of our management team will also join us to provide additional information on business trends and credit conditions. At this time, I'll turn the call over to President and CEO, Brad Nordholm. Speaker 100:02:09Brad? Speaker 200:02:11Thanks, Jalpa. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. 20 23 was a remarkable year for Farmer Mac. We've produced double digit earnings growth and record net effective spread, and we substantially grew business volume, all while maintaining credit quality and holding our efficiency ratio below our target of 30%. Our success continues to be driven by our team's execution of our multiyear strategic plan, disciplined asset liability management decisions and funding execution and successful business development efforts, which have resulted in the diversification of our revenue streams. Speaker 200:02:55Our strong capital base and uninterrupted access to the capital markets support our long term strategic growth objectives, while also providing a buffer against market volatility and changing credit market conditions. So let me be a bit more specific. In comparison to the prior year 2022, we concluded 2023 with a 28% growth in that effect to spread to $327,000,000 a 38% growth in core earnings to $171,000,000 and a 10% growth in outstanding business volume to $28,500,000,000 I believe that it is the combination of our passion for our mission, our expertise and discipline coupled with our exceptional access to debt securitization markets and consistent asset liability management that enables us to deliver consistently strong financial results. I fervently believe that passion for mission, the passion from our employees, our Board, our executives, I believe that it really turbocharges our expertise and discipline to deliver these exceptional results. As you read in this morning's press release, we announced a 27%, $0.30 per share increase in our quarterly common stock dividend to $1.40 per share beginning the Q1 of 2024. Speaker 200:04:37This reflects the 13th consecutive year that Farmer Mac has increased its quarterly dividend. We are resolved to increase our dividend on an annual basis with a policy focused on achieving a targeted payout that balances a reasonable growth of both previous and future earnings along with maintaining an adequate level of capital to exceed our requirements and support our expectations for our future business volume growth. As I've said for a couple of years, diversifying our loan portfolio and serving more of our clearly defined market segments has been a key priority over the last years and that diversification is benefiting us through changing market cycles. In 2023, we provided a gross $8,300,000,000 in liquidity and lending capacity to lenders serving rural America, reflecting net year over year outstanding business volume growth of over $2,500,000,000 The rural infrastructure line of business grew $1,400,000,000 or 21% year over year to $8,000,000,000 as of year end, primarily due to new AgVantage facilities with existing and new counterparties and growth within the renewable energy and telecommunications portfolios. The agricultural finance line of business increased $1,200,000,000 or 6 percent year over year to $20,500,000,000 primarily driven by the acquisition of approximately $600,000,000 of mortgage servicing rights for farm and ranch loans held by and serviced for a third party. Speaker 200:06:26New AgVantage securities with our long standing institutional counterparties and loan purchase growth in farm and ranch corporate agribusiness. New Ag Vantage securities in the wholesale financing space were key driver to overall volume growth in both lines of business. The continued demand within the space reflects the comparative competitiveness of Farmer Mac's EggVantage pricing relative to market alternatives. Looking ahead to 2024, we believe, especially given the uncertainty and volatility around the interest rate environment, that Farmer Mac will continue to be viewed as unique relative value and diversifying funding source for many institutional counterparties. Driving exceptional growth in the rural infrastructure line of business were the renewable energy and telecommunications portfolios. Speaker 200:07:27As we predicted on a number of prior calls, our total Renewable Energy segment more than doubled in size during the year. And our telecommunications portfolio grew nearly 60% year over year. Given the strong demand for renewable power generation and storage and the growing investment in fiber and broadband in rural America, we continue to focus on strategic talent acquisition in these two areas to build our expertise and capacity as market opportunities arise. Our Farm and Ranch segment modestly increased over 20 22, primarily because of the higher interest rate environment. There was relatively strong activity in the Q4 of 2023 and the higher demand for Farm and Ranch loan purchase product has continued into the Q1 of 2024, further reflecting borrowers adjustments to the new rate environment. Speaker 200:08:30We are cautiously optimistic about the increase in Farmer Ranch loan purchases in 2024. Farmers generally have strong cash positions, but we have seen a slower increase in land values versus the prior years and we expect a decline in 2024 farm incomes as input costs remain elevated and commodity prices continue to recede. As we previously mentioned, we acquired $600,000,000 of mortgage servicing rights on farm and ranch loans held by and serviced for a 3rd party in the Q2 of 2023. During 20 23, we also purchased servicing rights for approximately $700,000,000 of mortgage servicing rights for Farmer Mac loans owned by Farmer Mac. These transactions have enabled us to expand our servicing portfolio for the first time since we added the servicing function in the Q3 of 2021. Speaker 200:09:37This capability gives us more direct oversight and governance of our portfolio, enhanced security, more control over timely access to data and better visibility into loan performance from inception to maturity. Looking ahead, we will seek to continue to capitalize on this initiative to create a more efficient process for our customers and their borrowers and achieve economies of scale with minimal incremental expense. Another area of significant focus is our farm securitization program. We have closed a $300,000,000 transaction every year for the last 3 years and expect to be back in the market in the first half of twenty twenty four. We're committed to being a regular issuer in the market with a set of securitization products that align with customer, power and investor interests. Speaker 200:10:35Developing this capital flow to agricultural producers exemplifies Farmer Mac's core mission to lower costs for the Enbauer and improve credit availability in rural America, while also creating an underlying agricultural investment opportunity in the capital markets. Looking ahead to 2024, we will strive to continue to be a source of reliable capital for our stakeholders as we navigate the ongoing uncertainty in the broader markets. We want to step in where we can to be a partner to our customers and more effectively fulfill our role as a secondary market provider of low cost liquidity and capital efficiency with the ultimate goal of strengthening the rural economy. On prior calls, I've talked about an expansion of our approach to marketing and branding here at Farmer Mac. You will soon begin seeing our efforts to use branding to deepen our connection with our stakeholders in a compelling and uniform way to support the expansion of our mission driven work that helps build a strong and vital rural America. Speaker 200:11:48The initiative is intended to highlight our distinctive position as a secondary market partner that fosters greater connections between Wall Street and Main Street America as well as across the entire value chain to fuel growth, innovation and prosperity in America's rural and agricultural communities. In no small part, the fuel for that growth also comes from our active creation of more investment opportunities for the capital markets and strong access to capital. A significant competitive advantage for us is our people and their interwoven connection of mission, expertise and discipline. I don't believe you can separate those attributes and how they are committed to accelerate opportunities for rural America. To recognize their contributions and even more fully align these attributes, we have continued to enhance our benefit offerings to include all employees in an equity for all program to make them eligible to receive annual grants of equity based compensation. Speaker 200:13:01I'm extremely proud of our team and all they have accomplished in 2023. Now I'd like to turn over the call to Aparna Ramesh, our Chief Financial Officer, to discuss our financial results in more detail. Speaker 300:13:19Thank you, Brad, and good morning, everyone. 2023 was an exceptional year for Pharomax. Results were strong across the board, highlighting our balance, well measured approach, excellent credit quality and resiliency through market cycles. Our performance in Q4 2023 enabled us to finish the year with very strong momentum. Net volume growth in Q4 2023 was $819,000,000 and this was primarily driven by new Advantage Securities volume in the Rural Utilities and Farm and Ranch segments and strong loan purchase volume across the Farm and Ranch, Renewable Energy and Rural Utility segment. Speaker 300:14:02As Brad mentioned, the improvement in Farm and Ranch loan purchase volume in the Q4 has created positive momentum heading into 2024. Turning to results, core earnings were $44,900,000 or $4.10 per share in Q4 2023 and $171,200,000 or $15.65 per share in 2023. And this reflects double digit year over year growth, which was largely driven by record net effective spreads of $84,600,000 in Q4 2023 $327,000,000 for the entire year. The year over year 16 basis point improvement in spreads to 118 basis points of NES as of year end was primarily driven by our low cost excess capital, our debt funding strategies in previous low rate environment and our ability to redeploy both the excess capital and the lower cost of funds into higher earning assets. This advantage was further enhanced by the continued trend towards higher spread volume that is evident in our new segments like Renewable Energy and Corporate Ad Finance. Speaker 300:15:19The capital that we raised opportunistically when reached for its historical lows in 2020 2021 has reduced the need for us to raise more expensive term and callable debt in the current rising rate environment. We continue to defensively hold approximately $900,000,000 in cash and other short term instruments in our liquidity portfolio. Not only does this help us weather potential market disruption, our excess and highly liquid capital generates immediate returns in a high nominal rate environment. While the rise in short term rates has provided a benefit to earnings, we project limited downside to earnings if rates decline in the future and this is due to our proactive equity capital allocation strategy, where we're laddering and layering duration to minimize balance sheet and earnings volatility. Specifically, we expect to retain some of this benefit over the medium term even if rates decline. Speaker 300:16:22And to that end, we started extending maturities in our investment portfolio. Despite the macro headwinds, we continue to see strong access to debt capital markets and a general flight to quality investments, which allows us to be very well positioned to fund new asset opportunities as they arise. Our liquidity and capital position continue to remain well in excess of all regulatory ratios and our projections show minimal change in our profitability and limited exposure to movement in interest rates where the market projected rates go up or down. Farmer Mac maintained a monthly average of 3 0 7 days of liquidity through 2023 and had 3 19 days as of December 31, 2023. And these numbers reflect resiliency against short and medium term market disruption. Speaker 300:17:18Turning to operating expenses. Our operating expenses increased by 19% year over year due to increased headcount, increased stock compensation and increased spending on software licenses and information technology initiatives, which included consultants to support growth and strategic initiatives. We concluded 2023 with 185 employees. Expenditures associated with the multiyear technology investment, which we've discussed before in our treasury and cash management systems are being executed against to enhance our trading, hedging and reporting platforms. And this initiative has contributed significantly to the year over year increase in expenses. Speaker 300:18:05This modernization effort is expected to position us to more effectively defend against cyber and fraud threats and also allow us to scale our portfolio and diversify our product offerings that are in alignment with our business and funding strategy. We also plan to continue to make investments in strategic focus areas such as renewable energy and be the strong revenue contributors in 2023 and to continue to modernize our infrastructure, including our servicing and loan platforms to support our growth and strategic objectives. Despite the substantial increase in our expenses year over year, operating efficiency held at 27% at year end and this is below our long term strategic plan target of 30%. This result is a testament to our accretive revenue strategy as well as a substantial reduction in our cost of funds driven by our disciplined approach to raising capital and managing balance sheet volatility. We'll continue to monitor our efficiency ratio and manage it such that we expect to remain at or below the long run average of 30%. Speaker 300:19:19However, as we make investments in our loan infrastructure and funding platform and continue to innovate our loan processes using technology to accelerate growth, we may see some temporary increases that could result in the efficiency ratio rising above the 30% level. Our credit profile continues to be very strong in aggregate despite the economic headwinds. 90 day delinquencies were $35,000,000 or 12 basis points of our entire portfolio and this reflects a decrease both sequentially and year over year. As of December 31, 2023, the total allowance for losses was $18,300,000 and this reflects a $1,100,000 provision compared to year end 2022 and this is primarily due to a single telecommunications loan that was downgraded to substandard during the year. The provision was partially offset by a release related to a single collateral dependent agricultural storage and processing loan that fully paid off during the year. Speaker 300:20:25We ended the year with no charge off. Let's turn now to capital. Farmer Mac's $1,500,000,000 of core capital as of December 31, 2023 exceeded our statutory requirement by $589,000,000 or 68%. Core capital increased from year end 2022, primarily due to an increase in retained earnings, which reflects a substantial improvement in both the quantity and the quality of our capital base. And this is reflected in our Tier 1 capital ratio, which improved to 15.4%. Speaker 300:21:02Our consistent earnings strongly support the $0.30 per share increase in our quarterly common stock dividend. And we are very pleased that we can offer this return to our shareholders, while maintaining strong capital ratios to defend our balance sheet and also fueling our growth objectives. We will continue to invest significant resources to enhance our infrastructure and engage with our customers and investors to support a robust and liquid market for our farm securitization product. Securitization has many beneficial aspects for Farmer Mac. It allows us to diversify our funding, enhance and optimize our balance sheet through the efficient deployment of capital and it can enable our growth strategy by targeting new asset opportunities into our conduit. Speaker 300:21:50While we are closely monitoring a changing market dynamic, we fully expect to return to the market in the first half of twenty twenty four with another similar fund securitization transaction as the previous three transactions. As we assess our strategic objectives for the program, we plan to transform what has been a financing strategy to start to offer this as a vehicle for capital efficiency and growth for our counterparty. So in summary, our entire team delivered exceptionally good quarterly results, while fulfilling several important strategic and revenue objectives. We delivered on our key metrics that we report to you on each call. We had record core earnings and continued strong credit performance. Speaker 300:22:38And all of this resulted in a 19% return on equity, while holding the efficiency ratio below our 30% target. As the interest rate environment moderates, we remain optimistic that the natural hedges within our business and balance sheet should allow for a more sustainable long run average in net effective spread. Looking ahead to 2024, we remain well positioned and more optimistic than ever to deliver on our long term strategic plan objective. And with that, Brad, let me turn it back to you. Speaker 200:23:16Thank you, Aparna. We are extremely proud of our financial results for 2023. As Aparna was saying, we believe that we're well positioned heading into 2024 with strong liquidity and capital levels, a diversified business mix, highly effective risk management practices and an expanded team of dedicated professionals. We're very optimistic about the future and we'll maintain our singular focus on fulfilling our mission efficiently and innovatively as we navigate the backdrop of broader market uncertainty attributable to interest rates, regulation and policy change. This is how we believe we can continue to differentiate ourselves and deliver value to our customers and end borrowers in rural America. Speaker 200:24:10And now operator, I'd like to see if we have any questions from anyone on the line with us today. Operator00:24:19Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we will now begin the question and answer Your first question comes from Bill Ryan with Seaport Research. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:24:50Good morning and congratulations on your 2023 results. Question on the margin, specifically the net effective spread on renewable energy and utilities, both improved quarter over quarter renewable energy quite a bit. I believe, Brad, last quarter you talked about maybe some pricing strategies that were being implemented to maybe enhance some of the yields. Could you talk about what the drivers of the margin in the quarter was or the NES in those two business lines? Speaker 200:25:23Hey, Bill. Good morning. And, yes, thanks very much. We also have Zach Carpenter on, so I'm going to ask Zach to provide you with a little additional color. But I believe on prior calls, I talked about how over the last few years, we have really tried to move our pricing from being pricing that really achieved the lowest acceptable threshold from Farmer Mac to pricing that reflect more of the market. Speaker 200:25:51And that's resulted in more variation between business segments and also within deals within the business segments. So that's a part of it. We also are becoming better established in the markets and have a growing reputation among market players, which allows them to see us as a premium player. And that puts us in a position of a bit better negotiating position as well. But let me turn to Zach to really kind of flush this out for you in more detail. Speaker 500:26:29Yes, happy to Brad and thanks Bill. Brad touched on most of the key attributes. I'd highlight 3 main things. Focused on rural utilities, just remember the telecommunications portfolio is included in that segment. That sector by itself has much higher net effective spread just given the risk profile of those transactions. Speaker 500:26:52And again, in that space, we're really focused on pricing to market and making sure that the transactions that we're bringing on board reflect the risk that we have in those. I'd say the second is more of a market construct in terms of the volatility we've seen. What that created in 2023 was kind of a widening of credit spreads across, I think most sectors of Farmer Mac. And so as we execute in all three of the spaces portfolios, telco, rural utilities and renewable energy, we saw a widening of credit spreads in 2023, which also resulted in an increase in net effective spread. And the last thing I would note is just specifically focused to renewable energy. Speaker 500:27:34Our primary target and focus is really in that middle market type transactions and not necessarily the largest transactions in the market. And that by itself has focused us more on, I think, more accretive net effective spreads than some of the other transactions. So I think the combination of those three things is really what caused an accretive net effective spread in the rural infrastructure space. Speaker 400:28:01Okay. And one follow-up also related to the net effect of spread. But in terms of portfolio repricing, we've obviously been in a fairly stable interest rate environment. I think last quarter everybody was expecting a more dramatic reduction in market interest rates. And we talked about the overall margin maybe being a little bit under pressure. Speaker 400:28:20But kind of where we're at right now, it doesn't look like rates are going to go down nearly as much and the portfolio continues to reprice. Are we kind of looking more, let's just say everything held constant at a stable type NES, not adjusted for mix or anything? Or with ongoing repricing of the existing portfolios or some potential upside to the core margin? Speaker 200:28:46Well, from an asset liability management, those portfolio the asset liability side are quite well matched. And so unlike banks, when we have a movement in rates, for example, increase in deposit costs, it doesn't put pressure on us. But in terms of the repricing of the existing portfolio, that really goes to a prepayment question. Zach, why don't you provide some insight into what's happening with our prepayments as well as the new origination opportunity? Speaker 500:29:21Yes, absolutely. Specifically in the farm and ranch segment, rates still remain high comparatively to the last 10 to 15 years. So our prepayments have remained historically low and we continue to expect that to take place at least for the foreseeable future into 2024. Thus, the new volume that we bring on is not making up for lost refinancing volume and that would let tend us to think that spreads will be relatively stable in the farm and ranch line of business. The only other thing I would highlight and this directly goes on the asset side of the book as it pertains to net effective spread is we have seen a pretty significant tightening of credit spreads across the spectrum heading into 2024. Speaker 500:30:09And so as we look at kind of our other products and segments, we'll take that into consideration as we look to deploy more capital. But again, the volatility in the market kind of moved the other way starting in 2024. And so that could impact certain refinancing activity in some of the other segments. But in our core Farm and Ranch and corporate ag segment, I think we're pretty confident that it's going to be relatively stable at least for the foreseeable future. Speaker 400:30:34Okay. Thanks for taking my questions. Operator00:30:39Your next question comes from Bose George with KBW. Please go ahead. Speaker 600:30:44Hey, everyone. Good morning. Just wanted to follow-up on the spread question. If the Fed does cut rates in the back half of the year, is the impact mainly on the treasury function just with your cash there? And in terms of the hedges that you discussed, is it really kind of to offset the impact on that part of the liability structure? Speaker 200:31:07Yes, I think we've commented Bose on the and good morning. I think we've commented on the relative stability of spreads around our loan portfolio. So, Parnell, why don't you since we do carry a very large investment liquidity portfolios, why don't you provide some insight into how rates would impact that? Speaker 700:31:26Yes, absolutely. Thank you both for your questions. Let me just comment on that briefly. As we've highlighted, we manage our books such that we have little to minimal volatility, whether rates go up or down. More specifically, as you think about our investment portfolio, something that we've started to do and we actually put in place in the Q4 of last year is what I would call a laddering strategy with respect to our duration. Speaker 700:31:58So what that really means is that as we look at this $1,000,000,000 plus of what I would call relatively short term investments, essentially sitting in overnight money, which has been very, very accretive. We've taken aspects or portions of those and really very systematically extended them over a 2, 3, 5 year horizon. And what that will have the effect of doing is in the short run, if the Fed were to continue to raise rates, we'd be giving up that incremental spread that we would have gotten if we hadn't actually extended out. But what it does do is it positions us extremely well, as you noted in the back half of the year, where there is an anticipation that the Fed might start to lower interest rates, it's going to keep us at a point that is going to be quite steady. And what that means is that it will not create a dramatic amount of volatility in our net effective spread, and it will actually lock in a lot of the benefits that we have seen over 2023 that has come from having raised extremely accretive capital at very low interest rate environments that have continued to reprice, we've essentially locked in a vast amount of those benefits by extending our duration in what we call an equity allocation strategy. Speaker 700:33:20So I hope that helps. But we don't anticipate to see any volatility or minimal volatility as a result of a repricing down of interest rates as it pertains to our liability side of the house. And then you heard from Zach, just in terms of how we plan to manage our asset side of the house, But these are some of the natural hedges that we have within our business model where we tend to benefit and we try to manage our volatility whether interest rates go up or down. Speaker 600:33:49Okay, great. That's helpful. Thanks. Then can you just talk about the possibility or the outlook for generating volumes of some of the other Farm Credit System banks that you don't work with or you're less active with at the moment? Speaker 200:34:03Sure. I think we've previously mentioned that our relationship with Farm Credit System Banks and associations is very important here at Farm Credit. We have remarkably common missions. And we are already doing business with a couple of the banks and a number of associations. I'll turn to Zach to give you more color on our outreach, But it remains an area of high focus and our expectation is that over the next couple of years, we will find new ways of doing more types of business with more farm credit associations and banks. Speaker 200:34:42But Zach, maybe you could offer some specifics on where we are with standbys, for example, and purchase participations? Speaker 500:34:52Yes, absolutely. The focus on our relationship with the Farm Credit System is very strong right now. We're engaging across many different banks and associations. About 90% of our purchase commitment, long term standby purchase commitment product is supporting the system and we'll continue to invest in that product as certain institutions find holder concentration limits. The one thing I would highlight, a lot of the transaction growth, specifically in Corporate Ag Finance, Telecommunications is in conjunction with Farm Credit System Institutions. Speaker 500:35:31We're either partnering in transactions where a Farm Credit entity has included Farmer Mac as a secondary market. Our telecommunications portfolio is prominently in the primary space done with CoBank, one of the largest entities in the system. We continue to invest in outreach across the system, but with banks and associations. And so we're very happy with where we've evolved in our relationship with the system. And frankly, given the growth and focus we have in some of our new areas of or new portfolios, we believe we'll have more opportunities to support the system in 2024 and beyond. Speaker 600:36:11Okay, great. Thanks very much. Operator00:36:15Your next question comes from Gary Gordon. Speaker 800:36:20Please go ahead. Thank you. Two questions. One small one. I just focused on the utilities margin in this release. Speaker 800:36:31It's about 40 basis points well below your other business units. Why is it so low or why isn't this business repriced? Are there other benefits missing? Speaker 200:36:45Yes. Hey, Gary. Thank you for joining us today. A couple of things. One is that it's true that the way we measure that margin associated with that portfolio does show a small level. Speaker 200:37:03But keep in mind a couple of things. 1, many of the borrowers in that portfolio are investment grade and some of them are even high investment grade. So we are pricing appropriately, we believe. Also keep in mind, if you look at kind of where that's been trending over the last couple of years, it's been trending in a positive direction. It started even lower. Speaker 200:37:26And so some of the efforts that we mentioned at the beginning of the call to price more to market as an example, are reflected even in that 40 basis points. And third, those that are the lowest margin are absolutely essential parts of the infrastructure of rural America. At the end of the day, the rural electric cooperatives are owned by farmers and rural Americans. They're generating transmission electric cooperatives owned by rural electric associations. It becomes very, very mission centric for us to help them and whether we're helping them through market priced farm and ranch loan purchase or helping them through a market priced rural utility, rural electric cooperative loan purchase, It's the benefit is ending up in the same place. Speaker 200:38:22The final point I'd make about that is that when you think about that portfolio, we've had no charge offs, we've actually had no delinquencies ever. And that's also reflective of the fact that the capital consumption, the equity capital consumption for that portfolio is actually very low. So when we do adjust for a return on capital, those numbers look actually pretty good. Speaker 800:38:51Okay, good. Second question is on to the implications of this large dividend increase, by the way. Thank you very much. So if you've talked about a 35% payout over the long run, So it was $5.60 dividend implies $16 in earnings. Now you're not getting to $16 in earnings with your traditional target for your spread, which is about 95 basis points. Speaker 800:39:27Is it safe to assume that would you consider your normal or let's say for the foreseeable future spread that it's reasonable to talk about a materially higher number? Speaker 200:39:40Yes. I mean, we're not going to provide guidance on that, but a couple of comments. One is that, that 95 basis point NES, as Aparna and Zach highlighted in talking about pricing pressures and asset liability management strategy, Over the next 1 to 2 year horizon, we don't think we're going to see that 95 basis points at all. We may see a single digit softening, but certainly not 95 basis points. The second thing that I would mention about that is that during the call, I talked about regulatory uncertainty, talked about legislative uncertainty. Speaker 200:40:17We're going into a year 2024 when we are extremely well positioned. But we have a Farm Bill that should have been done at the end of last year that was not. Hopefully, it will get done this year. That brings a bit of uncertainty to some of the underlying fundamentals of American agriculture. We want to see it passed. Speaker 200:40:41We also have new Basel regulatory environment, which may have some implications for capital. And so while we are very, very excited about the opportunities that we see, the business opportunities and extremely pleased with the soundness of Farmer Mac, Those uncertainties just inject a little bit of a note of caution into our decision making process as it relates to dividend. So, we landed on a place that we thought really reflected our future growth potential, that uncertainty that I just discussed, as well as something that rewards our shareholders for sticking with us in a very, very handsome way. And as you know, it's a balancing Speaker 700:41:31act. Brad, if I might just add an additional point and that has to do with what we've mentioned around the quality as well as the quantity of capital. Gary, where we want to head is really to have our capital stack skew more heavily towards retained earnings that comes from organic growth and maintaining our credit quality. It reduces the need for us to go into the preferred markets as we have done. It's proven very, very beneficial to us. Speaker 700:41:56But we do have a scenario where we have some expensive preferreds that could be repricing. And by really making sure that we're maintaining our capital base such that we're skewing more towards quality of capital with retained earnings, it gives us more degrees of freedom in terms of letting some of those expensive preferreds go and not have to really worry about going into the market at a time that might not be accretive for us. So it's really just a balancing act for us in terms of managing our capital stack as well as fueling our balance sheet for additional growth. Speaker 800:42:32Okay. Thank you very much. Operator00:42:37Your next question comes from Brendan McCarthy with Sidoti. Please go ahead. Speaker 900:42:44Hey, good morning everybody and thanks for taking my questions. Just wanted to start off looking at the wholesale financing business. I understand the value proposition has really increased for institutional counterparties in the elevated interest rate environment. But just wondering if you can expand on where the benefits have flowed through on the segment level? Speaker 200:43:10Yes. And I'll ask Zach to give you some specific color on that. But just generally speaking, as you noted, the higher interest rate environment and frankly, the absence of Federal Reserve Bank support of liquidity facilities for financial institutions has created more of a competitive advantage for us as we noted in our comments. And that's driving new opportunity. Some of that opportunities with customers we had in the past and we let go because we didn't like the pricing, But some of it is new opportunity as well. Speaker 200:43:48But Zach, you might just kind of explain where this is all coming from. Speaker 500:43:54Yes, happy to. Not to reiterate a lot of what Brad said, but I think one of the key drivers is clearly the volatility in the market and a lot of these large corporate institutional counterparties are looking to just diversify all the different funding sources they have. If you're in the public bond market and you see significant increase in GAAP and added credit spreads, which we did last year, Farmer Mac and our secured AgVantage facility is a relatively comparative and better advantage to those counterparties. To your question on where you see these benefits in our segment reporting, you're predominantly going to see them in AgVantage within the Farm and Ranch segment, as well as in the Rural Utility segment. So those are our 2 large corporate institutional counterparty line items. Speaker 500:44:40You can see the significant growth year over year, especially in Rural Utilities as well as in Farm and Ranch. And so that's generally where we saw, at least in 2023, the growth opportunity and the increase in net effective spread that rolls up into those segments. And then heading into 2024, we anticipate a broader discussion with numerous other counterparties in terms of the benefits we could provide given the aforementioned comments. Speaker 200:45:07Yes. Brandon, one other thing I'd just like to add to this is that there's a strategic aspect of this as well because when we have an AgVantage facility, we are evaluating the underlying collateral that's being pledged And that underlying collateral are typically loans that as an alternative we'd like to own, that we'd like to purchase. And I think over the last 6 to 9 months, we've probably been able to initiate more discussions with some of those AgVantage counterparties about their strategic objectives and whether a sale for them, a purchase by us of some of those underlying loans fits their strategic objectives better. And too early to say that that's going to yield results, but we're encouraged that we're engaged at such a strategic thought level with so many of these counterparties and are optimistic that at some point in the future, we will show that we can provide another source of liquidity to them through a different type of facility, a loan purchase rather than an AgVantage facility. Speaker 900:46:19Great, great. That's very helpful. And I know you mentioned a big part of that story has been business development efforts and branding and just kind of marketing efforts as well. Can you specify what exactly has kind of driven that diversification of counterparties? Speaker 200:46:36Well, let me just jump in ahead of Zach. He's modest, but it is all of those things, but it absolutely begins with having high quality people with the relationships and experience that motivates those counterparties to engage in these discussions. And we have hired some Zach has really hired some absolutely outstanding people over the last couple of years that are enabling us to do that. Speaker 900:47:07Got it. Got it. And kind of switching gears here to the outlook on prepayment risk. I understand, should we see a potential decline in rates in the back half of the year? Obviously, I assume prepayments will pick up in the core farm and ranch business. Speaker 900:47:22But can you touch on the prepayment outlook for the other segments? I know prepayment risk is very low in the rural utility segment, but maybe if you can expand on the other business lines? Speaker 200:47:33Yes. Zach, can you just run through all the segments? Speaker 500:47:37Yes, happy to. You're spot on in the rural infrastructure side of the house. We don't anticipate much of any prepayment risk, maybe some modest risk in the telecommunications portfolio. Generally speaking, those are all floating rate. But those are going to turn on a weighted average life of 3 to 4 years anyways. Speaker 500:47:56But the rate environment isn't going to really increase that. In Corporate Ag Finance, those are just lumpy transactions in general. So the prepayment concept, it really isn't conducive in that segment. These are more M and A type transactions where you may get paid off or you could participate in a larger facility. So really when you think about our overall portfolios or lines of business, really the prepayment component is akin to Farm and Ranch and USDA. Speaker 500:48:26And if we see some rate compression in the back half of the year, I think now as Aparna mentioned, we anticipate an increase in loan purchase and we're kind of setting ourselves up to take advantage of a potential refinance opportunities. And remember, we've said this on prior quarters, a lot of our customers or community and regional banks are keeping those loans on the balance sheet to manage through a higher deposit payout environment. That being said, liquidity and capital efficiency is now becoming a more focus in the banking sector, which we believe as those loans kind of reprice on their balance sheet, creates an enhanced opportunity for us, especially in Farm and Ranch and USDA to take advantage in a rate decline scenario. So yes, probably more prepayment risk in Farm and Ranch and USDA, but we're more than confident that we'll make it up in new volume. Speaker 700:49:19If I might just add one point as well, Brandon. We are fairly agnostic in terms of prepayment risk and this has to do with how we manage our balance sheet from a hedging standpoint. So something that we've noted before. We tend to layer in callables such that they're fairly duration matched as we look ahead and think about prepayment risk. So even if we were to have prepayments, it wouldn't necessarily affect our margins very substantially. Speaker 700:49:48So everything that Zach highlighted, prepayment risk is low across segments. But in addition to that, from a funding standpoint, we're extremely well hedged, where we could simply call expensive debt and reprice that downward such that we're maintaining our margins. Speaker 900:50:07Understood. That's helpful. And one more question for me, just on the farm economy as a whole. I know you mentioned your land values have moderately declined and farm net income appear to be reverting more towards historical averages. But can you just kind of talk on your outlook for the farm economy and how it impacts Farmer Mac? Speaker 200:50:30That's a big question because the decline in land gas is actually pretty isolated. We've been doing a lot of work on that recently. Permanent crops in California are one place where there have been headlines about the modest decreases and those tend to be almonds and other permanent crops where there are not multiple sources of water, where there may be some pressure on water availability as well as the combination with low commodity prices. But we're not seeing it across the board. And as you know, our loan to current value on just about everything in our portfolio is extremely modest, well, also up at 50% on the portfolio as it stands. Speaker 200:51:24But yes, we're expected to see softening in farm income. Of course, that's an aggregate number for the entire sector. And we are an organization with 17,000 borrowers, each one of them with their own situation. But input prices are generally staying sticky and high, while commodity prices for major crops have been softening. And so we're looking at projected net farm incomes for the sector again this next year that will be somewhere in the neighborhood of 20% less than it kind of was at the peak. Speaker 200:52:05The first thing that that will do is put a little it will cause some drawdown of liquidity. Farmers have been holding a lot of liquidity and it will cause some drawdown of that. We think that it may, especially if we have slightly lower interest rates later in the year, it will start stimulating some additional borrowing activity. As Zach has mentioned, farm and ranch originations were slow at least through the 1st 3 quarters of 2023, a little bit of pickup in Q4. But that will cause some further pickup in the year. Speaker 200:52:40In terms of other segments of the farm economy, it probably tips them to a bit more borrowing, which could benefit us. We'll be continuing to apply the very, very disciplined credit standards that we have for many years here at Farmer Mac, so that we're continuing to make prudent credit decisions. So you put it all together and it's probably a slight positive for Farmer Mac even if it is a source of concern for our key constituents in rural America. Speaker 900:53:20Great. Thanks, Brad. That's all for me. Thanks, everybody. Operator00:53:25Your next question comes from DeForest Hinman with Bumbershoot Holdings. Please go ahead. Speaker 1000:53:32Hey, thanks for squeezing me in. You're kind of beating around the bush on the loan growth outlook. There's a lot of moving parts, but I mean, simplistically, Farm and Ranch loans, high singles growth in 2021, about 10% growth in 2022, 8% growth in 2023. Is it still in that ballpark or is it kind of a mid single digit growth outlook for 2024 when we look at all these moving pieces? That's the first question. Speaker 200:54:06Yes. I mean, we're not going to provide a precise forecast. The fact you want to try to give a little bit more color on that one. Speaker 500:54:15Yes. I mean, I think the confluence of factors in the market is leading to us being more optimistic in loan purchase activity in Farm and Ranch than we were in 2023. I mean, I noted earlier in a comment on the regional and community banking dynamic, managing capital, liquidity, deposits, that's having a real impact on those institutions, which as their loan portfolio re prices, we think creates a great opportunity for Farmer Mac. Low prepayment speeds again solidifies the portfolio. And so we're able to take advantage of some of these dynamics. Speaker 500:54:49We're not making up any refinancings lost on our portfolio. Limited supply of new land and farm incomes, as Brad just mentioned in the prior to prior question, it's going to come down. There's going to be stress in working capital. And I think there's going to be interest in tapping into that equity. So compare year over year and stepping into 2024 as we made in our prepared comments, I think we're more optimistic that there is a greater chance of enhanced growth in 2024 versus 2023. Speaker 500:55:19That being said, lots of things can change, be it the Farm Bill, be it a political year, be it interest rates. So it's hard to really pinpoint that, but I think we're stepping into more optimism than we were stepping into 2023. Speaker 1000:55:33Okay, that's helpful. Renewable loan growth, very positive. You had 153% growth in 2022, 100% growth in 2023. We talked about the outreach on the syndication side, adding some headcount. I mean, I don't think all those initiatives are in place. Speaker 1000:55:54And we grew that loan book to 100% and it's over $400,000,000 I think in the past we talked about the idea of that being $1,000,000,000 portfolio at some point. Can you just help us understand how that loan book looks going into 2024 and where could that end up and then maybe even where could that be in 2025, some of these initiatives gain traction? Speaker 600:56:29Yes. There's been Zach has done Speaker 200:56:31a lot of infrastructure building here with policies, Mark Grady with credit policies, Zach with key hires. So we saw that pickup in 'twenty three, it really accelerated in the back half of 'twenty three. Going into 2024, the pieces are all in place to continue that very strong momentum. So, dollars 1,000,000,000 number, it's very realistic that that could happen sometime in 2025. I think that gives you a kind of a slope that you can work on. Speaker 1000:57:09Okay. And then I hadn't heard this from Aparna, but this comment on some of the higher cost preferreds, you guys are in the market for a number of years. But I do see that I think the Series C are actually redeemable in 2024. I mean, is that a preferred we'd be looking to remove? And then I think on a bigger picture question, is there any benefit to leaving the preferreds in place as it relates to how the regulators calculate your capital ratios? Speaker 1000:57:52Are we pretty clearly saying we'd like to remove those preferreds over time? And then as a result of that, it actually improves the dividend capacity to the common holders. So maybe just some more color there and should we be expecting those preferreds to be removed over time with those call provisions? Speaker 800:58:16Yes. So Speaker 700:58:18I think that's an excellent question. It's something that we really think about in entirety. We don't really distinguish between our sources of capital, but we do make a slight distinction in our own minds as we think about the quality of capital and the quality of capital being organic and retained earnings because that then allows us to have a base of capital that we can very efficiently deploy for growth, but also in terms of really rewarding our shareholders in the here and now. So that's really the big picture in terms of how we think about our capital. In terms of preferreds, preferreds are an excellent source of capital for us. Speaker 700:58:55We have access to the retail preferred market. The way we think about our preferred issuances to forest is we try to do that opportunistically. So in 2020 2021, we were able to tap the retail preferred market and issue preferreds that were sub-five percent and sub-six percent. And so we did that. And if we were ever able to do that again, that's exactly what we would do. Speaker 700:59:17These are fixed rate preferreds where we really hold the call option. The Series C that you note, you're absolutely right. That has an option where we can redeem it. And if we did not, then it would convert to floating. And as you know, in the current rate environment, that would result in additional costs approximately to the tune of about $2,000,000 per year. Speaker 700:59:40We haven't really made a complete decision as yet. But what I would say is just given our various degrees of freedom plus our excellent credit quality, the fact that we've got really a very big and growing share of our capital stack coming from retained earnings. It's highly probable that it is something that we will look at. But preferreds are very much an option for us and it will continue to be an option for us. But we look at it in terms of an expensive option versus something that's really opportunistic. Speaker 701:00:10So in this particular case, you're right, it is redeemable and it does convert to floating. So it's probably something that we'll take a very close look at as we approach the redemption date to consider whether we want to let that go and if we want to issue something possibly when the markets are favorable to us in the fixed rate environment. Speaker 201:00:31Yes. I'd just like to add. I mean, Karna has talked about the optionality that we have. And whether we choose to redeem that in July or not will depend on factors that we're not looking at today. They will depend on factors that we're looking at in the second quarter. Speaker 201:00:51We'll be revisiting growth, we'll be revisiting Basel, we'll be revisiting Farm Bill. And taking into consideration all the things that you would expect management to be looking at before coming up with a position on that. But I would add you the other part of your question was how do we stand with the regulators. Simply put, our levels of capitalization by every measure have never been stronger and we far exceed all regulatory requirements. We do regular stress testing with regulators. Speaker 201:01:25We do well under that stress testing with our capital. Farmer Mac has never been stronger. And when you consider the financial results, return on equity of 19%, almost 19%, you consider the growth in earnings, you consider dividends, you consider the growth in the overall volume of Farmer Mac that we have done that while also increasing capital makes it even more remarkable because oftentimes there's a trade off. For us, there's not been a trade off. So that gives us just a lot of flexibility, a lot of options to run this business to even greater success in the future. Speaker 201:02:09We're not constrained by capital. Speaker 701:02:12And I'll just add that securitization is another lever, which is another capital efficient tool that we will throw into the mix as we think about retained earnings, preferred and now securitization in terms of thinking about our leverage ratios and our Tier 1 ratio. So that's just another thing that we Speaker 201:02:28throw into the mix. Speaker 1001:02:31Yes. Brad, I agree. You've done a phenomenal job. I like the slide 2 with dividend CAGR. I mean, I think we've talked about this in the past. Speaker 1001:02:41I don't know if there's any company that's had a faster dividend growth than yours in the financial space. It's astounding and the spreads continue to hold up and you continue to see most financial companies be dealing with spread compression and you haven't really had very much. You had, like you said, 19% ROE that's incredibly attractive, especially from a consistency perspective. And we've talked about this before, the stock still probably undervalued, but continuing to increase the dividend hopefully gets more people to look at the stock. Final question is, I've asked this many times before, just hiring. Speaker 1001:03:29We added quite a few people in 2023. So can you update us on who do we need to hire in 2024? Where does that stand in terms of getting those people in place? And then can you give us an update on any of the IT initiatives that we've been putting in place? Are they partially done? Speaker 1001:03:53Are they completed? Or is there more work to be done? Speaker 201:03:57And that's it. Thank you. Sure. Of course. Yes, we have expanded our employee base. Speaker 201:04:05I think we ended up 2023 with 184, 186 employees, something like that. And we have over the last couple of years, it's been a balance of funding and ALM related, business development related, core control and risk management related across the organization, compliance. You think about an organization with aggregate volume approaching $30,000,000,000 that has only 184 employees. We have to have a full suite of very, very talented people doing a lot of functions that banks our size do with literally thousands of employees. So we feel very good about the additional depth that we've built in our organization. Speaker 201:04:57As we go into 2024 and kind of through our budgeting process, it's pretty simple. A little bit of emphasis on our branding and communications in terms of headcount, just a bit on IT and the rest really is business development. We feel that we have built very, very strong origination, credit approval, credit administration, credit policy, funding, the platforms here at Farmer Mac. And now let's work to put more volume through them. So that's kind of reflected in our choice of how we're allocating increases in headcount. Speaker 201:05:40The increases in headcount in 24 will be slower than they have been each of the last couple of years, we believe. As it relates to IT initiatives, there's a tremendous amount going on. Sean Thatcher joined us as CIO in the Q2 of 'twenty three. It feels like he's been here for over a year. He's gotten a tremendous amount done. Speaker 201:06:02He's brought a lot of organization to that team. And they're currently focused on many tactical projects, but 2 huge strategic projects, and I'll let Aparna and Zach comment on them. The first is what we call STARS, which we expect to finish this year, maybe even halfway through the year. And the other is an update to a hugely important and huge legacy platform here at Farmer Mac called Ag Power. But Aparna, you want to provide an update on that, why it's so important? Speaker 201:06:34And then Zach, you too. Speaker 701:06:36Yes, sure. Let me give you a bit of a sense about this treasury platform that we're embarking on. It is the most significant overhaul, I would say, of platforms at Pharmamax. It impacts about 2 thirds of the balance sheet, both on the asset side as well as the liability side. Something that most people don't know is that we have a significant amount of payments that really course through loan payments as well as debt holders. Speaker 701:07:01So we actually transact anywhere between $500,000,000,000 to $0.75 of $1,000,000,000,000 in terms of just payments. In addition to different securities, we have hedging and reporting, etcetera, as well as what we do with our wholesale financing. All of that really goes through these platforms. These have been platforms that have been in existence and really commend the team at Pharmamax, the founding team that has really layered on and built these functions. But today, we have options and we have commercial products that are out there. Speaker 701:07:33So we've been working with a consultant who's helped us through this journey over the last 2 years. And we've really selected 2 key vendors who are going to really provision platforms for both our front end, our middle office as well as our cash management systems. And this is going to create a lot of dependencies internally in terms of overhauling how our data flows through as well as how our different capabilities with respect to hedging and reporting really connect in. So it's a massive effort with lots of people, touches a lot. And this is an initiative that I'll just say is anywhere between we foresee somewhere between $16,000,000 to $20,000,000 in cash expenses. Speaker 701:08:18Obviously, it gets capitalized and there's a P and L impact that we continually recalibrate towards. But as Brad mentioned, it's going very well as any large scale initiative might. And we expect to see this come to fruition optimistically in the middle of this year, but certainly no later through, I would say, the Q3 or so. But tremendous partnership across the organization. And I echo Brad. Speaker 701:08:45Sean has been a tremendous addition to the executive team and a tremendous partner as well on this initiative. And then the second initiative is really the loan origination platform. So I'll just turn to Zach. He can give you a little bit more color on how we really innovating around some of those technologies that drive our business lines. Speaker 501:09:04Yes. DeForest, I'll be quick. But Brad mentioned Ag Power, that's our infrastructure that our community banks and our sellers use to interact and transact with Farmer Mac. Our goal is to dramatically change that infrastructure to be cheaper, more customer friendly, more effective and drive down the time of us purchasing a loan from our sellers as quickly as possible. So that's better technology, that's more efficiencies, that's leveraging collateral enhancements and really providing a state of the art infrastructure platform that all of our sellers can use that can transact as easily as possible with Farmer Mac. Speaker 501:09:45And on the positive side, I think Sean and I feel by end of 2024, we'll be rolling something out. And I think we're very excited and we're receiving a lot of positive reinforcement from our customers. So again, this is to be a state of the art infrastructure loan origination platform for our sellers. Speaker 1001:10:05Okay, great. And then just a final comment, the idea of adding equity compensation across the entire employee base. I think you said that that's a very good idea and should probably help with retention and your mission based focus. That's very helpful. So thanks for taking all the questions. Speaker 201:10:31Good. Yes, we appreciate that. That sentiment very much. We do think it's important. It resulted in about a doubling when we went to equity for all, it was about a doubling in the number of employees who were eligible for awards. Speaker 201:10:48And it allows us to have conversations about stock, stock performance, the relation of that to overall financial performance and the relation of that to overall service ambition. So we think that it's just one more thing that contributes to a really healthy and very passionate mission focused culture at Farmer Mac. Operator01:11:21There are no further questions at this time. I would now like to turn the call over to Brad Nordholm. Please go ahead. Speaker 201:11:28Great. Well, thank you everyone for joining us today. We really appreciate your participation, your interest and many great questions, which we hope we've addressed to your satisfaction. If you have follow ups, of course, get in touch with Jalpa. But otherwise, we'll be having our next regularly scheduled call in May to report our Q1 2024 results, and we look forward to that very much. Speaker 201:12:00I hope you have a great day and please stay in touch. Thank you. Operator01:12:05Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes your conference call for today. 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There are 11 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Farmer Mac 4th Quarter and Full Year 2023 Results Conference Call. At this time, all lines are in listen only mode. Following the presentation, we will conduct a question and answer session. This call is being recorded on Friday, February 23, 2024. I would now like to turn the conference over to Joppa Nazareth. Operator00:00:30Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:34Good morning, and thank you for joining us for our Q4 and full year 2023 earnings conference call. I'm Jelpa Nazareth, Senior Director of Investor Relations and Finance Strategy here at Farmer Mac. As we begin, please note that the information provided during this call may contain forward looking statements about the company's business, strategies and prospects, which are based on management's current expectations and assumptions. These statements are not a guarantee of future performance and are subject to the risks and uncertainties that could cause our actual results to differ materially from those projected. Please refer to Farmer Mac's 2023 Annual Report on Form 10 ks filed with the SEC today for a full discussion of the company's risk factors. Speaker 100:01:20On today's call, we will also be discussing certain non GAAP financial measures. Disclosures and reconciliations of these non GAAP measures can be found in the 2023 Form 10 ks and earnings press release posted on Farmer Mac's website, farmermac.com, under the Financial Information portion of the Investors section. Joining us from management this morning is our President and Chief Executive Officer, Brad Milholm, who will discuss 2023's business and financial highlights and strategic objectives and Chief Financial Officer, Aparna Ramesh, who will provide greater detail on our financial performance. Select members of our management team will also join us to provide additional information on business trends and credit conditions. At this time, I'll turn the call over to President and CEO, Brad Nordholm. Speaker 100:02:09Brad? Speaker 200:02:11Thanks, Jalpa. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. 20 23 was a remarkable year for Farmer Mac. We've produced double digit earnings growth and record net effective spread, and we substantially grew business volume, all while maintaining credit quality and holding our efficiency ratio below our target of 30%. Our success continues to be driven by our team's execution of our multiyear strategic plan, disciplined asset liability management decisions and funding execution and successful business development efforts, which have resulted in the diversification of our revenue streams. Speaker 200:02:55Our strong capital base and uninterrupted access to the capital markets support our long term strategic growth objectives, while also providing a buffer against market volatility and changing credit market conditions. So let me be a bit more specific. In comparison to the prior year 2022, we concluded 2023 with a 28% growth in that effect to spread to $327,000,000 a 38% growth in core earnings to $171,000,000 and a 10% growth in outstanding business volume to $28,500,000,000 I believe that it is the combination of our passion for our mission, our expertise and discipline coupled with our exceptional access to debt securitization markets and consistent asset liability management that enables us to deliver consistently strong financial results. I fervently believe that passion for mission, the passion from our employees, our Board, our executives, I believe that it really turbocharges our expertise and discipline to deliver these exceptional results. As you read in this morning's press release, we announced a 27%, $0.30 per share increase in our quarterly common stock dividend to $1.40 per share beginning the Q1 of 2024. Speaker 200:04:37This reflects the 13th consecutive year that Farmer Mac has increased its quarterly dividend. We are resolved to increase our dividend on an annual basis with a policy focused on achieving a targeted payout that balances a reasonable growth of both previous and future earnings along with maintaining an adequate level of capital to exceed our requirements and support our expectations for our future business volume growth. As I've said for a couple of years, diversifying our loan portfolio and serving more of our clearly defined market segments has been a key priority over the last years and that diversification is benefiting us through changing market cycles. In 2023, we provided a gross $8,300,000,000 in liquidity and lending capacity to lenders serving rural America, reflecting net year over year outstanding business volume growth of over $2,500,000,000 The rural infrastructure line of business grew $1,400,000,000 or 21% year over year to $8,000,000,000 as of year end, primarily due to new AgVantage facilities with existing and new counterparties and growth within the renewable energy and telecommunications portfolios. The agricultural finance line of business increased $1,200,000,000 or 6 percent year over year to $20,500,000,000 primarily driven by the acquisition of approximately $600,000,000 of mortgage servicing rights for farm and ranch loans held by and serviced for a third party. Speaker 200:06:26New AgVantage securities with our long standing institutional counterparties and loan purchase growth in farm and ranch corporate agribusiness. New Ag Vantage securities in the wholesale financing space were key driver to overall volume growth in both lines of business. The continued demand within the space reflects the comparative competitiveness of Farmer Mac's EggVantage pricing relative to market alternatives. Looking ahead to 2024, we believe, especially given the uncertainty and volatility around the interest rate environment, that Farmer Mac will continue to be viewed as unique relative value and diversifying funding source for many institutional counterparties. Driving exceptional growth in the rural infrastructure line of business were the renewable energy and telecommunications portfolios. Speaker 200:07:27As we predicted on a number of prior calls, our total Renewable Energy segment more than doubled in size during the year. And our telecommunications portfolio grew nearly 60% year over year. Given the strong demand for renewable power generation and storage and the growing investment in fiber and broadband in rural America, we continue to focus on strategic talent acquisition in these two areas to build our expertise and capacity as market opportunities arise. Our Farm and Ranch segment modestly increased over 20 22, primarily because of the higher interest rate environment. There was relatively strong activity in the Q4 of 2023 and the higher demand for Farm and Ranch loan purchase product has continued into the Q1 of 2024, further reflecting borrowers adjustments to the new rate environment. Speaker 200:08:30We are cautiously optimistic about the increase in Farmer Ranch loan purchases in 2024. Farmers generally have strong cash positions, but we have seen a slower increase in land values versus the prior years and we expect a decline in 2024 farm incomes as input costs remain elevated and commodity prices continue to recede. As we previously mentioned, we acquired $600,000,000 of mortgage servicing rights on farm and ranch loans held by and serviced for a 3rd party in the Q2 of 2023. During 20 23, we also purchased servicing rights for approximately $700,000,000 of mortgage servicing rights for Farmer Mac loans owned by Farmer Mac. These transactions have enabled us to expand our servicing portfolio for the first time since we added the servicing function in the Q3 of 2021. Speaker 200:09:37This capability gives us more direct oversight and governance of our portfolio, enhanced security, more control over timely access to data and better visibility into loan performance from inception to maturity. Looking ahead, we will seek to continue to capitalize on this initiative to create a more efficient process for our customers and their borrowers and achieve economies of scale with minimal incremental expense. Another area of significant focus is our farm securitization program. We have closed a $300,000,000 transaction every year for the last 3 years and expect to be back in the market in the first half of twenty twenty four. We're committed to being a regular issuer in the market with a set of securitization products that align with customer, power and investor interests. Speaker 200:10:35Developing this capital flow to agricultural producers exemplifies Farmer Mac's core mission to lower costs for the Enbauer and improve credit availability in rural America, while also creating an underlying agricultural investment opportunity in the capital markets. Looking ahead to 2024, we will strive to continue to be a source of reliable capital for our stakeholders as we navigate the ongoing uncertainty in the broader markets. We want to step in where we can to be a partner to our customers and more effectively fulfill our role as a secondary market provider of low cost liquidity and capital efficiency with the ultimate goal of strengthening the rural economy. On prior calls, I've talked about an expansion of our approach to marketing and branding here at Farmer Mac. You will soon begin seeing our efforts to use branding to deepen our connection with our stakeholders in a compelling and uniform way to support the expansion of our mission driven work that helps build a strong and vital rural America. Speaker 200:11:48The initiative is intended to highlight our distinctive position as a secondary market partner that fosters greater connections between Wall Street and Main Street America as well as across the entire value chain to fuel growth, innovation and prosperity in America's rural and agricultural communities. In no small part, the fuel for that growth also comes from our active creation of more investment opportunities for the capital markets and strong access to capital. A significant competitive advantage for us is our people and their interwoven connection of mission, expertise and discipline. I don't believe you can separate those attributes and how they are committed to accelerate opportunities for rural America. To recognize their contributions and even more fully align these attributes, we have continued to enhance our benefit offerings to include all employees in an equity for all program to make them eligible to receive annual grants of equity based compensation. Speaker 200:13:01I'm extremely proud of our team and all they have accomplished in 2023. Now I'd like to turn over the call to Aparna Ramesh, our Chief Financial Officer, to discuss our financial results in more detail. Speaker 300:13:19Thank you, Brad, and good morning, everyone. 2023 was an exceptional year for Pharomax. Results were strong across the board, highlighting our balance, well measured approach, excellent credit quality and resiliency through market cycles. Our performance in Q4 2023 enabled us to finish the year with very strong momentum. Net volume growth in Q4 2023 was $819,000,000 and this was primarily driven by new Advantage Securities volume in the Rural Utilities and Farm and Ranch segments and strong loan purchase volume across the Farm and Ranch, Renewable Energy and Rural Utility segment. Speaker 300:14:02As Brad mentioned, the improvement in Farm and Ranch loan purchase volume in the Q4 has created positive momentum heading into 2024. Turning to results, core earnings were $44,900,000 or $4.10 per share in Q4 2023 and $171,200,000 or $15.65 per share in 2023. And this reflects double digit year over year growth, which was largely driven by record net effective spreads of $84,600,000 in Q4 2023 $327,000,000 for the entire year. The year over year 16 basis point improvement in spreads to 118 basis points of NES as of year end was primarily driven by our low cost excess capital, our debt funding strategies in previous low rate environment and our ability to redeploy both the excess capital and the lower cost of funds into higher earning assets. This advantage was further enhanced by the continued trend towards higher spread volume that is evident in our new segments like Renewable Energy and Corporate Ad Finance. Speaker 300:15:19The capital that we raised opportunistically when reached for its historical lows in 2020 2021 has reduced the need for us to raise more expensive term and callable debt in the current rising rate environment. We continue to defensively hold approximately $900,000,000 in cash and other short term instruments in our liquidity portfolio. Not only does this help us weather potential market disruption, our excess and highly liquid capital generates immediate returns in a high nominal rate environment. While the rise in short term rates has provided a benefit to earnings, we project limited downside to earnings if rates decline in the future and this is due to our proactive equity capital allocation strategy, where we're laddering and layering duration to minimize balance sheet and earnings volatility. Specifically, we expect to retain some of this benefit over the medium term even if rates decline. Speaker 300:16:22And to that end, we started extending maturities in our investment portfolio. Despite the macro headwinds, we continue to see strong access to debt capital markets and a general flight to quality investments, which allows us to be very well positioned to fund new asset opportunities as they arise. Our liquidity and capital position continue to remain well in excess of all regulatory ratios and our projections show minimal change in our profitability and limited exposure to movement in interest rates where the market projected rates go up or down. Farmer Mac maintained a monthly average of 3 0 7 days of liquidity through 2023 and had 3 19 days as of December 31, 2023. And these numbers reflect resiliency against short and medium term market disruption. Speaker 300:17:18Turning to operating expenses. Our operating expenses increased by 19% year over year due to increased headcount, increased stock compensation and increased spending on software licenses and information technology initiatives, which included consultants to support growth and strategic initiatives. We concluded 2023 with 185 employees. Expenditures associated with the multiyear technology investment, which we've discussed before in our treasury and cash management systems are being executed against to enhance our trading, hedging and reporting platforms. And this initiative has contributed significantly to the year over year increase in expenses. Speaker 300:18:05This modernization effort is expected to position us to more effectively defend against cyber and fraud threats and also allow us to scale our portfolio and diversify our product offerings that are in alignment with our business and funding strategy. We also plan to continue to make investments in strategic focus areas such as renewable energy and be the strong revenue contributors in 2023 and to continue to modernize our infrastructure, including our servicing and loan platforms to support our growth and strategic objectives. Despite the substantial increase in our expenses year over year, operating efficiency held at 27% at year end and this is below our long term strategic plan target of 30%. This result is a testament to our accretive revenue strategy as well as a substantial reduction in our cost of funds driven by our disciplined approach to raising capital and managing balance sheet volatility. We'll continue to monitor our efficiency ratio and manage it such that we expect to remain at or below the long run average of 30%. Speaker 300:19:19However, as we make investments in our loan infrastructure and funding platform and continue to innovate our loan processes using technology to accelerate growth, we may see some temporary increases that could result in the efficiency ratio rising above the 30% level. Our credit profile continues to be very strong in aggregate despite the economic headwinds. 90 day delinquencies were $35,000,000 or 12 basis points of our entire portfolio and this reflects a decrease both sequentially and year over year. As of December 31, 2023, the total allowance for losses was $18,300,000 and this reflects a $1,100,000 provision compared to year end 2022 and this is primarily due to a single telecommunications loan that was downgraded to substandard during the year. The provision was partially offset by a release related to a single collateral dependent agricultural storage and processing loan that fully paid off during the year. Speaker 300:20:25We ended the year with no charge off. Let's turn now to capital. Farmer Mac's $1,500,000,000 of core capital as of December 31, 2023 exceeded our statutory requirement by $589,000,000 or 68%. Core capital increased from year end 2022, primarily due to an increase in retained earnings, which reflects a substantial improvement in both the quantity and the quality of our capital base. And this is reflected in our Tier 1 capital ratio, which improved to 15.4%. Speaker 300:21:02Our consistent earnings strongly support the $0.30 per share increase in our quarterly common stock dividend. And we are very pleased that we can offer this return to our shareholders, while maintaining strong capital ratios to defend our balance sheet and also fueling our growth objectives. We will continue to invest significant resources to enhance our infrastructure and engage with our customers and investors to support a robust and liquid market for our farm securitization product. Securitization has many beneficial aspects for Farmer Mac. It allows us to diversify our funding, enhance and optimize our balance sheet through the efficient deployment of capital and it can enable our growth strategy by targeting new asset opportunities into our conduit. Speaker 300:21:50While we are closely monitoring a changing market dynamic, we fully expect to return to the market in the first half of twenty twenty four with another similar fund securitization transaction as the previous three transactions. As we assess our strategic objectives for the program, we plan to transform what has been a financing strategy to start to offer this as a vehicle for capital efficiency and growth for our counterparty. So in summary, our entire team delivered exceptionally good quarterly results, while fulfilling several important strategic and revenue objectives. We delivered on our key metrics that we report to you on each call. We had record core earnings and continued strong credit performance. Speaker 300:22:38And all of this resulted in a 19% return on equity, while holding the efficiency ratio below our 30% target. As the interest rate environment moderates, we remain optimistic that the natural hedges within our business and balance sheet should allow for a more sustainable long run average in net effective spread. Looking ahead to 2024, we remain well positioned and more optimistic than ever to deliver on our long term strategic plan objective. And with that, Brad, let me turn it back to you. Speaker 200:23:16Thank you, Aparna. We are extremely proud of our financial results for 2023. As Aparna was saying, we believe that we're well positioned heading into 2024 with strong liquidity and capital levels, a diversified business mix, highly effective risk management practices and an expanded team of dedicated professionals. We're very optimistic about the future and we'll maintain our singular focus on fulfilling our mission efficiently and innovatively as we navigate the backdrop of broader market uncertainty attributable to interest rates, regulation and policy change. This is how we believe we can continue to differentiate ourselves and deliver value to our customers and end borrowers in rural America. Speaker 200:24:10And now operator, I'd like to see if we have any questions from anyone on the line with us today. Operator00:24:19Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we will now begin the question and answer Your first question comes from Bill Ryan with Seaport Research. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:24:50Good morning and congratulations on your 2023 results. Question on the margin, specifically the net effective spread on renewable energy and utilities, both improved quarter over quarter renewable energy quite a bit. I believe, Brad, last quarter you talked about maybe some pricing strategies that were being implemented to maybe enhance some of the yields. Could you talk about what the drivers of the margin in the quarter was or the NES in those two business lines? Speaker 200:25:23Hey, Bill. Good morning. And, yes, thanks very much. We also have Zach Carpenter on, so I'm going to ask Zach to provide you with a little additional color. But I believe on prior calls, I talked about how over the last few years, we have really tried to move our pricing from being pricing that really achieved the lowest acceptable threshold from Farmer Mac to pricing that reflect more of the market. Speaker 200:25:51And that's resulted in more variation between business segments and also within deals within the business segments. So that's a part of it. We also are becoming better established in the markets and have a growing reputation among market players, which allows them to see us as a premium player. And that puts us in a position of a bit better negotiating position as well. But let me turn to Zach to really kind of flush this out for you in more detail. Speaker 500:26:29Yes, happy to Brad and thanks Bill. Brad touched on most of the key attributes. I'd highlight 3 main things. Focused on rural utilities, just remember the telecommunications portfolio is included in that segment. That sector by itself has much higher net effective spread just given the risk profile of those transactions. Speaker 500:26:52And again, in that space, we're really focused on pricing to market and making sure that the transactions that we're bringing on board reflect the risk that we have in those. I'd say the second is more of a market construct in terms of the volatility we've seen. What that created in 2023 was kind of a widening of credit spreads across, I think most sectors of Farmer Mac. And so as we execute in all three of the spaces portfolios, telco, rural utilities and renewable energy, we saw a widening of credit spreads in 2023, which also resulted in an increase in net effective spread. And the last thing I would note is just specifically focused to renewable energy. Speaker 500:27:34Our primary target and focus is really in that middle market type transactions and not necessarily the largest transactions in the market. And that by itself has focused us more on, I think, more accretive net effective spreads than some of the other transactions. So I think the combination of those three things is really what caused an accretive net effective spread in the rural infrastructure space. Speaker 400:28:01Okay. And one follow-up also related to the net effect of spread. But in terms of portfolio repricing, we've obviously been in a fairly stable interest rate environment. I think last quarter everybody was expecting a more dramatic reduction in market interest rates. And we talked about the overall margin maybe being a little bit under pressure. Speaker 400:28:20But kind of where we're at right now, it doesn't look like rates are going to go down nearly as much and the portfolio continues to reprice. Are we kind of looking more, let's just say everything held constant at a stable type NES, not adjusted for mix or anything? Or with ongoing repricing of the existing portfolios or some potential upside to the core margin? Speaker 200:28:46Well, from an asset liability management, those portfolio the asset liability side are quite well matched. And so unlike banks, when we have a movement in rates, for example, increase in deposit costs, it doesn't put pressure on us. But in terms of the repricing of the existing portfolio, that really goes to a prepayment question. Zach, why don't you provide some insight into what's happening with our prepayments as well as the new origination opportunity? Speaker 500:29:21Yes, absolutely. Specifically in the farm and ranch segment, rates still remain high comparatively to the last 10 to 15 years. So our prepayments have remained historically low and we continue to expect that to take place at least for the foreseeable future into 2024. Thus, the new volume that we bring on is not making up for lost refinancing volume and that would let tend us to think that spreads will be relatively stable in the farm and ranch line of business. The only other thing I would highlight and this directly goes on the asset side of the book as it pertains to net effective spread is we have seen a pretty significant tightening of credit spreads across the spectrum heading into 2024. Speaker 500:30:09And so as we look at kind of our other products and segments, we'll take that into consideration as we look to deploy more capital. But again, the volatility in the market kind of moved the other way starting in 2024. And so that could impact certain refinancing activity in some of the other segments. But in our core Farm and Ranch and corporate ag segment, I think we're pretty confident that it's going to be relatively stable at least for the foreseeable future. Speaker 400:30:34Okay. Thanks for taking my questions. Operator00:30:39Your next question comes from Bose George with KBW. Please go ahead. Speaker 600:30:44Hey, everyone. Good morning. Just wanted to follow-up on the spread question. If the Fed does cut rates in the back half of the year, is the impact mainly on the treasury function just with your cash there? And in terms of the hedges that you discussed, is it really kind of to offset the impact on that part of the liability structure? Speaker 200:31:07Yes, I think we've commented Bose on the and good morning. I think we've commented on the relative stability of spreads around our loan portfolio. So, Parnell, why don't you since we do carry a very large investment liquidity portfolios, why don't you provide some insight into how rates would impact that? Speaker 700:31:26Yes, absolutely. Thank you both for your questions. Let me just comment on that briefly. As we've highlighted, we manage our books such that we have little to minimal volatility, whether rates go up or down. More specifically, as you think about our investment portfolio, something that we've started to do and we actually put in place in the Q4 of last year is what I would call a laddering strategy with respect to our duration. Speaker 700:31:58So what that really means is that as we look at this $1,000,000,000 plus of what I would call relatively short term investments, essentially sitting in overnight money, which has been very, very accretive. We've taken aspects or portions of those and really very systematically extended them over a 2, 3, 5 year horizon. And what that will have the effect of doing is in the short run, if the Fed were to continue to raise rates, we'd be giving up that incremental spread that we would have gotten if we hadn't actually extended out. But what it does do is it positions us extremely well, as you noted in the back half of the year, where there is an anticipation that the Fed might start to lower interest rates, it's going to keep us at a point that is going to be quite steady. And what that means is that it will not create a dramatic amount of volatility in our net effective spread, and it will actually lock in a lot of the benefits that we have seen over 2023 that has come from having raised extremely accretive capital at very low interest rate environments that have continued to reprice, we've essentially locked in a vast amount of those benefits by extending our duration in what we call an equity allocation strategy. Speaker 700:33:20So I hope that helps. But we don't anticipate to see any volatility or minimal volatility as a result of a repricing down of interest rates as it pertains to our liability side of the house. And then you heard from Zach, just in terms of how we plan to manage our asset side of the house, But these are some of the natural hedges that we have within our business model where we tend to benefit and we try to manage our volatility whether interest rates go up or down. Speaker 600:33:49Okay, great. That's helpful. Thanks. Then can you just talk about the possibility or the outlook for generating volumes of some of the other Farm Credit System banks that you don't work with or you're less active with at the moment? Speaker 200:34:03Sure. I think we've previously mentioned that our relationship with Farm Credit System Banks and associations is very important here at Farm Credit. We have remarkably common missions. And we are already doing business with a couple of the banks and a number of associations. I'll turn to Zach to give you more color on our outreach, But it remains an area of high focus and our expectation is that over the next couple of years, we will find new ways of doing more types of business with more farm credit associations and banks. Speaker 200:34:42But Zach, maybe you could offer some specifics on where we are with standbys, for example, and purchase participations? Speaker 500:34:52Yes, absolutely. The focus on our relationship with the Farm Credit System is very strong right now. We're engaging across many different banks and associations. About 90% of our purchase commitment, long term standby purchase commitment product is supporting the system and we'll continue to invest in that product as certain institutions find holder concentration limits. The one thing I would highlight, a lot of the transaction growth, specifically in Corporate Ag Finance, Telecommunications is in conjunction with Farm Credit System Institutions. Speaker 500:35:31We're either partnering in transactions where a Farm Credit entity has included Farmer Mac as a secondary market. Our telecommunications portfolio is prominently in the primary space done with CoBank, one of the largest entities in the system. We continue to invest in outreach across the system, but with banks and associations. And so we're very happy with where we've evolved in our relationship with the system. And frankly, given the growth and focus we have in some of our new areas of or new portfolios, we believe we'll have more opportunities to support the system in 2024 and beyond. Speaker 600:36:11Okay, great. Thanks very much. Operator00:36:15Your next question comes from Gary Gordon. Speaker 800:36:20Please go ahead. Thank you. Two questions. One small one. I just focused on the utilities margin in this release. Speaker 800:36:31It's about 40 basis points well below your other business units. Why is it so low or why isn't this business repriced? Are there other benefits missing? Speaker 200:36:45Yes. Hey, Gary. Thank you for joining us today. A couple of things. One is that it's true that the way we measure that margin associated with that portfolio does show a small level. Speaker 200:37:03But keep in mind a couple of things. 1, many of the borrowers in that portfolio are investment grade and some of them are even high investment grade. So we are pricing appropriately, we believe. Also keep in mind, if you look at kind of where that's been trending over the last couple of years, it's been trending in a positive direction. It started even lower. Speaker 200:37:26And so some of the efforts that we mentioned at the beginning of the call to price more to market as an example, are reflected even in that 40 basis points. And third, those that are the lowest margin are absolutely essential parts of the infrastructure of rural America. At the end of the day, the rural electric cooperatives are owned by farmers and rural Americans. They're generating transmission electric cooperatives owned by rural electric associations. It becomes very, very mission centric for us to help them and whether we're helping them through market priced farm and ranch loan purchase or helping them through a market priced rural utility, rural electric cooperative loan purchase, It's the benefit is ending up in the same place. Speaker 200:38:22The final point I'd make about that is that when you think about that portfolio, we've had no charge offs, we've actually had no delinquencies ever. And that's also reflective of the fact that the capital consumption, the equity capital consumption for that portfolio is actually very low. So when we do adjust for a return on capital, those numbers look actually pretty good. Speaker 800:38:51Okay, good. Second question is on to the implications of this large dividend increase, by the way. Thank you very much. So if you've talked about a 35% payout over the long run, So it was $5.60 dividend implies $16 in earnings. Now you're not getting to $16 in earnings with your traditional target for your spread, which is about 95 basis points. Speaker 800:39:27Is it safe to assume that would you consider your normal or let's say for the foreseeable future spread that it's reasonable to talk about a materially higher number? Speaker 200:39:40Yes. I mean, we're not going to provide guidance on that, but a couple of comments. One is that, that 95 basis point NES, as Aparna and Zach highlighted in talking about pricing pressures and asset liability management strategy, Over the next 1 to 2 year horizon, we don't think we're going to see that 95 basis points at all. We may see a single digit softening, but certainly not 95 basis points. The second thing that I would mention about that is that during the call, I talked about regulatory uncertainty, talked about legislative uncertainty. Speaker 200:40:17We're going into a year 2024 when we are extremely well positioned. But we have a Farm Bill that should have been done at the end of last year that was not. Hopefully, it will get done this year. That brings a bit of uncertainty to some of the underlying fundamentals of American agriculture. We want to see it passed. Speaker 200:40:41We also have new Basel regulatory environment, which may have some implications for capital. And so while we are very, very excited about the opportunities that we see, the business opportunities and extremely pleased with the soundness of Farmer Mac, Those uncertainties just inject a little bit of a note of caution into our decision making process as it relates to dividend. So, we landed on a place that we thought really reflected our future growth potential, that uncertainty that I just discussed, as well as something that rewards our shareholders for sticking with us in a very, very handsome way. And as you know, it's a balancing Speaker 700:41:31act. Brad, if I might just add an additional point and that has to do with what we've mentioned around the quality as well as the quantity of capital. Gary, where we want to head is really to have our capital stack skew more heavily towards retained earnings that comes from organic growth and maintaining our credit quality. It reduces the need for us to go into the preferred markets as we have done. It's proven very, very beneficial to us. Speaker 700:41:56But we do have a scenario where we have some expensive preferreds that could be repricing. And by really making sure that we're maintaining our capital base such that we're skewing more towards quality of capital with retained earnings, it gives us more degrees of freedom in terms of letting some of those expensive preferreds go and not have to really worry about going into the market at a time that might not be accretive for us. So it's really just a balancing act for us in terms of managing our capital stack as well as fueling our balance sheet for additional growth. Speaker 800:42:32Okay. Thank you very much. Operator00:42:37Your next question comes from Brendan McCarthy with Sidoti. Please go ahead. Speaker 900:42:44Hey, good morning everybody and thanks for taking my questions. Just wanted to start off looking at the wholesale financing business. I understand the value proposition has really increased for institutional counterparties in the elevated interest rate environment. But just wondering if you can expand on where the benefits have flowed through on the segment level? Speaker 200:43:10Yes. And I'll ask Zach to give you some specific color on that. But just generally speaking, as you noted, the higher interest rate environment and frankly, the absence of Federal Reserve Bank support of liquidity facilities for financial institutions has created more of a competitive advantage for us as we noted in our comments. And that's driving new opportunity. Some of that opportunities with customers we had in the past and we let go because we didn't like the pricing, But some of it is new opportunity as well. Speaker 200:43:48But Zach, you might just kind of explain where this is all coming from. Speaker 500:43:54Yes, happy to. Not to reiterate a lot of what Brad said, but I think one of the key drivers is clearly the volatility in the market and a lot of these large corporate institutional counterparties are looking to just diversify all the different funding sources they have. If you're in the public bond market and you see significant increase in GAAP and added credit spreads, which we did last year, Farmer Mac and our secured AgVantage facility is a relatively comparative and better advantage to those counterparties. To your question on where you see these benefits in our segment reporting, you're predominantly going to see them in AgVantage within the Farm and Ranch segment, as well as in the Rural Utility segment. So those are our 2 large corporate institutional counterparty line items. Speaker 500:44:40You can see the significant growth year over year, especially in Rural Utilities as well as in Farm and Ranch. And so that's generally where we saw, at least in 2023, the growth opportunity and the increase in net effective spread that rolls up into those segments. And then heading into 2024, we anticipate a broader discussion with numerous other counterparties in terms of the benefits we could provide given the aforementioned comments. Speaker 200:45:07Yes. Brandon, one other thing I'd just like to add to this is that there's a strategic aspect of this as well because when we have an AgVantage facility, we are evaluating the underlying collateral that's being pledged And that underlying collateral are typically loans that as an alternative we'd like to own, that we'd like to purchase. And I think over the last 6 to 9 months, we've probably been able to initiate more discussions with some of those AgVantage counterparties about their strategic objectives and whether a sale for them, a purchase by us of some of those underlying loans fits their strategic objectives better. And too early to say that that's going to yield results, but we're encouraged that we're engaged at such a strategic thought level with so many of these counterparties and are optimistic that at some point in the future, we will show that we can provide another source of liquidity to them through a different type of facility, a loan purchase rather than an AgVantage facility. Speaker 900:46:19Great, great. That's very helpful. And I know you mentioned a big part of that story has been business development efforts and branding and just kind of marketing efforts as well. Can you specify what exactly has kind of driven that diversification of counterparties? Speaker 200:46:36Well, let me just jump in ahead of Zach. He's modest, but it is all of those things, but it absolutely begins with having high quality people with the relationships and experience that motivates those counterparties to engage in these discussions. And we have hired some Zach has really hired some absolutely outstanding people over the last couple of years that are enabling us to do that. Speaker 900:47:07Got it. Got it. And kind of switching gears here to the outlook on prepayment risk. I understand, should we see a potential decline in rates in the back half of the year? Obviously, I assume prepayments will pick up in the core farm and ranch business. Speaker 900:47:22But can you touch on the prepayment outlook for the other segments? I know prepayment risk is very low in the rural utility segment, but maybe if you can expand on the other business lines? Speaker 200:47:33Yes. Zach, can you just run through all the segments? Speaker 500:47:37Yes, happy to. You're spot on in the rural infrastructure side of the house. We don't anticipate much of any prepayment risk, maybe some modest risk in the telecommunications portfolio. Generally speaking, those are all floating rate. But those are going to turn on a weighted average life of 3 to 4 years anyways. Speaker 500:47:56But the rate environment isn't going to really increase that. In Corporate Ag Finance, those are just lumpy transactions in general. So the prepayment concept, it really isn't conducive in that segment. These are more M and A type transactions where you may get paid off or you could participate in a larger facility. So really when you think about our overall portfolios or lines of business, really the prepayment component is akin to Farm and Ranch and USDA. Speaker 500:48:26And if we see some rate compression in the back half of the year, I think now as Aparna mentioned, we anticipate an increase in loan purchase and we're kind of setting ourselves up to take advantage of a potential refinance opportunities. And remember, we've said this on prior quarters, a lot of our customers or community and regional banks are keeping those loans on the balance sheet to manage through a higher deposit payout environment. That being said, liquidity and capital efficiency is now becoming a more focus in the banking sector, which we believe as those loans kind of reprice on their balance sheet, creates an enhanced opportunity for us, especially in Farm and Ranch and USDA to take advantage in a rate decline scenario. So yes, probably more prepayment risk in Farm and Ranch and USDA, but we're more than confident that we'll make it up in new volume. Speaker 700:49:19If I might just add one point as well, Brandon. We are fairly agnostic in terms of prepayment risk and this has to do with how we manage our balance sheet from a hedging standpoint. So something that we've noted before. We tend to layer in callables such that they're fairly duration matched as we look ahead and think about prepayment risk. So even if we were to have prepayments, it wouldn't necessarily affect our margins very substantially. Speaker 700:49:48So everything that Zach highlighted, prepayment risk is low across segments. But in addition to that, from a funding standpoint, we're extremely well hedged, where we could simply call expensive debt and reprice that downward such that we're maintaining our margins. Speaker 900:50:07Understood. That's helpful. And one more question for me, just on the farm economy as a whole. I know you mentioned your land values have moderately declined and farm net income appear to be reverting more towards historical averages. But can you just kind of talk on your outlook for the farm economy and how it impacts Farmer Mac? Speaker 200:50:30That's a big question because the decline in land gas is actually pretty isolated. We've been doing a lot of work on that recently. Permanent crops in California are one place where there have been headlines about the modest decreases and those tend to be almonds and other permanent crops where there are not multiple sources of water, where there may be some pressure on water availability as well as the combination with low commodity prices. But we're not seeing it across the board. And as you know, our loan to current value on just about everything in our portfolio is extremely modest, well, also up at 50% on the portfolio as it stands. Speaker 200:51:24But yes, we're expected to see softening in farm income. Of course, that's an aggregate number for the entire sector. And we are an organization with 17,000 borrowers, each one of them with their own situation. But input prices are generally staying sticky and high, while commodity prices for major crops have been softening. And so we're looking at projected net farm incomes for the sector again this next year that will be somewhere in the neighborhood of 20% less than it kind of was at the peak. Speaker 200:52:05The first thing that that will do is put a little it will cause some drawdown of liquidity. Farmers have been holding a lot of liquidity and it will cause some drawdown of that. We think that it may, especially if we have slightly lower interest rates later in the year, it will start stimulating some additional borrowing activity. As Zach has mentioned, farm and ranch originations were slow at least through the 1st 3 quarters of 2023, a little bit of pickup in Q4. But that will cause some further pickup in the year. Speaker 200:52:40In terms of other segments of the farm economy, it probably tips them to a bit more borrowing, which could benefit us. We'll be continuing to apply the very, very disciplined credit standards that we have for many years here at Farmer Mac, so that we're continuing to make prudent credit decisions. So you put it all together and it's probably a slight positive for Farmer Mac even if it is a source of concern for our key constituents in rural America. Speaker 900:53:20Great. Thanks, Brad. That's all for me. Thanks, everybody. Operator00:53:25Your next question comes from DeForest Hinman with Bumbershoot Holdings. Please go ahead. Speaker 1000:53:32Hey, thanks for squeezing me in. You're kind of beating around the bush on the loan growth outlook. There's a lot of moving parts, but I mean, simplistically, Farm and Ranch loans, high singles growth in 2021, about 10% growth in 2022, 8% growth in 2023. Is it still in that ballpark or is it kind of a mid single digit growth outlook for 2024 when we look at all these moving pieces? That's the first question. Speaker 200:54:06Yes. I mean, we're not going to provide a precise forecast. The fact you want to try to give a little bit more color on that one. Speaker 500:54:15Yes. I mean, I think the confluence of factors in the market is leading to us being more optimistic in loan purchase activity in Farm and Ranch than we were in 2023. I mean, I noted earlier in a comment on the regional and community banking dynamic, managing capital, liquidity, deposits, that's having a real impact on those institutions, which as their loan portfolio re prices, we think creates a great opportunity for Farmer Mac. Low prepayment speeds again solidifies the portfolio. And so we're able to take advantage of some of these dynamics. Speaker 500:54:49We're not making up any refinancings lost on our portfolio. Limited supply of new land and farm incomes, as Brad just mentioned in the prior to prior question, it's going to come down. There's going to be stress in working capital. And I think there's going to be interest in tapping into that equity. So compare year over year and stepping into 2024 as we made in our prepared comments, I think we're more optimistic that there is a greater chance of enhanced growth in 2024 versus 2023. Speaker 500:55:19That being said, lots of things can change, be it the Farm Bill, be it a political year, be it interest rates. So it's hard to really pinpoint that, but I think we're stepping into more optimism than we were stepping into 2023. Speaker 1000:55:33Okay, that's helpful. Renewable loan growth, very positive. You had 153% growth in 2022, 100% growth in 2023. We talked about the outreach on the syndication side, adding some headcount. I mean, I don't think all those initiatives are in place. Speaker 1000:55:54And we grew that loan book to 100% and it's over $400,000,000 I think in the past we talked about the idea of that being $1,000,000,000 portfolio at some point. Can you just help us understand how that loan book looks going into 2024 and where could that end up and then maybe even where could that be in 2025, some of these initiatives gain traction? Speaker 600:56:29Yes. There's been Zach has done Speaker 200:56:31a lot of infrastructure building here with policies, Mark Grady with credit policies, Zach with key hires. So we saw that pickup in 'twenty three, it really accelerated in the back half of 'twenty three. Going into 2024, the pieces are all in place to continue that very strong momentum. So, dollars 1,000,000,000 number, it's very realistic that that could happen sometime in 2025. I think that gives you a kind of a slope that you can work on. Speaker 1000:57:09Okay. And then I hadn't heard this from Aparna, but this comment on some of the higher cost preferreds, you guys are in the market for a number of years. But I do see that I think the Series C are actually redeemable in 2024. I mean, is that a preferred we'd be looking to remove? And then I think on a bigger picture question, is there any benefit to leaving the preferreds in place as it relates to how the regulators calculate your capital ratios? Speaker 1000:57:52Are we pretty clearly saying we'd like to remove those preferreds over time? And then as a result of that, it actually improves the dividend capacity to the common holders. So maybe just some more color there and should we be expecting those preferreds to be removed over time with those call provisions? Speaker 800:58:16Yes. So Speaker 700:58:18I think that's an excellent question. It's something that we really think about in entirety. We don't really distinguish between our sources of capital, but we do make a slight distinction in our own minds as we think about the quality of capital and the quality of capital being organic and retained earnings because that then allows us to have a base of capital that we can very efficiently deploy for growth, but also in terms of really rewarding our shareholders in the here and now. So that's really the big picture in terms of how we think about our capital. In terms of preferreds, preferreds are an excellent source of capital for us. Speaker 700:58:55We have access to the retail preferred market. The way we think about our preferred issuances to forest is we try to do that opportunistically. So in 2020 2021, we were able to tap the retail preferred market and issue preferreds that were sub-five percent and sub-six percent. And so we did that. And if we were ever able to do that again, that's exactly what we would do. Speaker 700:59:17These are fixed rate preferreds where we really hold the call option. The Series C that you note, you're absolutely right. That has an option where we can redeem it. And if we did not, then it would convert to floating. And as you know, in the current rate environment, that would result in additional costs approximately to the tune of about $2,000,000 per year. Speaker 700:59:40We haven't really made a complete decision as yet. But what I would say is just given our various degrees of freedom plus our excellent credit quality, the fact that we've got really a very big and growing share of our capital stack coming from retained earnings. It's highly probable that it is something that we will look at. But preferreds are very much an option for us and it will continue to be an option for us. But we look at it in terms of an expensive option versus something that's really opportunistic. Speaker 701:00:10So in this particular case, you're right, it is redeemable and it does convert to floating. So it's probably something that we'll take a very close look at as we approach the redemption date to consider whether we want to let that go and if we want to issue something possibly when the markets are favorable to us in the fixed rate environment. Speaker 201:00:31Yes. I'd just like to add. I mean, Karna has talked about the optionality that we have. And whether we choose to redeem that in July or not will depend on factors that we're not looking at today. They will depend on factors that we're looking at in the second quarter. Speaker 201:00:51We'll be revisiting growth, we'll be revisiting Basel, we'll be revisiting Farm Bill. And taking into consideration all the things that you would expect management to be looking at before coming up with a position on that. But I would add you the other part of your question was how do we stand with the regulators. Simply put, our levels of capitalization by every measure have never been stronger and we far exceed all regulatory requirements. We do regular stress testing with regulators. Speaker 201:01:25We do well under that stress testing with our capital. Farmer Mac has never been stronger. And when you consider the financial results, return on equity of 19%, almost 19%, you consider the growth in earnings, you consider dividends, you consider the growth in the overall volume of Farmer Mac that we have done that while also increasing capital makes it even more remarkable because oftentimes there's a trade off. For us, there's not been a trade off. So that gives us just a lot of flexibility, a lot of options to run this business to even greater success in the future. Speaker 201:02:09We're not constrained by capital. Speaker 701:02:12And I'll just add that securitization is another lever, which is another capital efficient tool that we will throw into the mix as we think about retained earnings, preferred and now securitization in terms of thinking about our leverage ratios and our Tier 1 ratio. So that's just another thing that we Speaker 201:02:28throw into the mix. Speaker 1001:02:31Yes. Brad, I agree. You've done a phenomenal job. I like the slide 2 with dividend CAGR. I mean, I think we've talked about this in the past. Speaker 1001:02:41I don't know if there's any company that's had a faster dividend growth than yours in the financial space. It's astounding and the spreads continue to hold up and you continue to see most financial companies be dealing with spread compression and you haven't really had very much. You had, like you said, 19% ROE that's incredibly attractive, especially from a consistency perspective. And we've talked about this before, the stock still probably undervalued, but continuing to increase the dividend hopefully gets more people to look at the stock. Final question is, I've asked this many times before, just hiring. Speaker 1001:03:29We added quite a few people in 2023. So can you update us on who do we need to hire in 2024? Where does that stand in terms of getting those people in place? And then can you give us an update on any of the IT initiatives that we've been putting in place? Are they partially done? Speaker 1001:03:53Are they completed? Or is there more work to be done? Speaker 201:03:57And that's it. Thank you. Sure. Of course. Yes, we have expanded our employee base. Speaker 201:04:05I think we ended up 2023 with 184, 186 employees, something like that. And we have over the last couple of years, it's been a balance of funding and ALM related, business development related, core control and risk management related across the organization, compliance. You think about an organization with aggregate volume approaching $30,000,000,000 that has only 184 employees. We have to have a full suite of very, very talented people doing a lot of functions that banks our size do with literally thousands of employees. So we feel very good about the additional depth that we've built in our organization. Speaker 201:04:57As we go into 2024 and kind of through our budgeting process, it's pretty simple. A little bit of emphasis on our branding and communications in terms of headcount, just a bit on IT and the rest really is business development. We feel that we have built very, very strong origination, credit approval, credit administration, credit policy, funding, the platforms here at Farmer Mac. And now let's work to put more volume through them. So that's kind of reflected in our choice of how we're allocating increases in headcount. Speaker 201:05:40The increases in headcount in 24 will be slower than they have been each of the last couple of years, we believe. As it relates to IT initiatives, there's a tremendous amount going on. Sean Thatcher joined us as CIO in the Q2 of 'twenty three. It feels like he's been here for over a year. He's gotten a tremendous amount done. Speaker 201:06:02He's brought a lot of organization to that team. And they're currently focused on many tactical projects, but 2 huge strategic projects, and I'll let Aparna and Zach comment on them. The first is what we call STARS, which we expect to finish this year, maybe even halfway through the year. And the other is an update to a hugely important and huge legacy platform here at Farmer Mac called Ag Power. But Aparna, you want to provide an update on that, why it's so important? Speaker 201:06:34And then Zach, you too. Speaker 701:06:36Yes, sure. Let me give you a bit of a sense about this treasury platform that we're embarking on. It is the most significant overhaul, I would say, of platforms at Pharmamax. It impacts about 2 thirds of the balance sheet, both on the asset side as well as the liability side. Something that most people don't know is that we have a significant amount of payments that really course through loan payments as well as debt holders. Speaker 701:07:01So we actually transact anywhere between $500,000,000,000 to $0.75 of $1,000,000,000,000 in terms of just payments. In addition to different securities, we have hedging and reporting, etcetera, as well as what we do with our wholesale financing. All of that really goes through these platforms. These have been platforms that have been in existence and really commend the team at Pharmamax, the founding team that has really layered on and built these functions. But today, we have options and we have commercial products that are out there. Speaker 701:07:33So we've been working with a consultant who's helped us through this journey over the last 2 years. And we've really selected 2 key vendors who are going to really provision platforms for both our front end, our middle office as well as our cash management systems. And this is going to create a lot of dependencies internally in terms of overhauling how our data flows through as well as how our different capabilities with respect to hedging and reporting really connect in. So it's a massive effort with lots of people, touches a lot. And this is an initiative that I'll just say is anywhere between we foresee somewhere between $16,000,000 to $20,000,000 in cash expenses. Speaker 701:08:18Obviously, it gets capitalized and there's a P and L impact that we continually recalibrate towards. But as Brad mentioned, it's going very well as any large scale initiative might. And we expect to see this come to fruition optimistically in the middle of this year, but certainly no later through, I would say, the Q3 or so. But tremendous partnership across the organization. And I echo Brad. Speaker 701:08:45Sean has been a tremendous addition to the executive team and a tremendous partner as well on this initiative. And then the second initiative is really the loan origination platform. So I'll just turn to Zach. He can give you a little bit more color on how we really innovating around some of those technologies that drive our business lines. Speaker 501:09:04Yes. DeForest, I'll be quick. But Brad mentioned Ag Power, that's our infrastructure that our community banks and our sellers use to interact and transact with Farmer Mac. Our goal is to dramatically change that infrastructure to be cheaper, more customer friendly, more effective and drive down the time of us purchasing a loan from our sellers as quickly as possible. So that's better technology, that's more efficiencies, that's leveraging collateral enhancements and really providing a state of the art infrastructure platform that all of our sellers can use that can transact as easily as possible with Farmer Mac. Speaker 501:09:45And on the positive side, I think Sean and I feel by end of 2024, we'll be rolling something out. And I think we're very excited and we're receiving a lot of positive reinforcement from our customers. So again, this is to be a state of the art infrastructure loan origination platform for our sellers. Speaker 1001:10:05Okay, great. And then just a final comment, the idea of adding equity compensation across the entire employee base. I think you said that that's a very good idea and should probably help with retention and your mission based focus. That's very helpful. So thanks for taking all the questions. Speaker 201:10:31Good. Yes, we appreciate that. That sentiment very much. We do think it's important. It resulted in about a doubling when we went to equity for all, it was about a doubling in the number of employees who were eligible for awards. Speaker 201:10:48And it allows us to have conversations about stock, stock performance, the relation of that to overall financial performance and the relation of that to overall service ambition. So we think that it's just one more thing that contributes to a really healthy and very passionate mission focused culture at Farmer Mac. Operator01:11:21There are no further questions at this time. I would now like to turn the call over to Brad Nordholm. Please go ahead. Speaker 201:11:28Great. Well, thank you everyone for joining us today. We really appreciate your participation, your interest and many great questions, which we hope we've addressed to your satisfaction. If you have follow ups, of course, get in touch with Jalpa. But otherwise, we'll be having our next regularly scheduled call in May to report our Q1 2024 results, and we look forward to that very much. Speaker 201:12:00I hope you have a great day and please stay in touch. Thank you. Operator01:12:05Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes your conference call for today. We thank you for participating and ask that you please disconnect your lines.Read morePowered by