NASDAQ:PUBM PubMatic Q4 2023 Earnings Report $9.13 +0.99 (+12.16%) Closing price 04/17/2025 04:00 PM EasternExtended Trading$9.16 +0.03 (+0.38%) As of 04/17/2025 06:11 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. Earnings HistoryForecast PubMatic EPS ResultsActual EPS$0.34Consensus EPS $0.19Beat/MissBeat by +$0.15One Year Ago EPS$0.24PubMatic Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$84.60 millionExpected Revenue$78.19 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$6.41 millionYoY Revenue Growth+13.90%PubMatic Announcement DetailsQuarterQ4 2023Date2/26/2024TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateMonday, February 26, 2024Conference Call Time4:30PM ETUpcoming EarningsPubMatic's Q1 2025 earnings is scheduled for Tuesday, May 6, 2025, with a conference call scheduled on Thursday, May 8, 2025 at 4:30 PM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Annual Report (10-K)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by PubMatic Q4 2023 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrFebruary 26, 2024 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 11 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Hello everyone and welcome to PubMatic's 4th Quarter and Full Year 2023 earnings call. My name is Kelsey, and I will be your Zoom operator for today. We thank you all for your attendance today, and as a reminder, today's webinar is being recorded. Operator00:00:14And now I will turn things over to Stacy Clements with The Blueshirt Group. Stacy, over to you. Good Speaker 100:00:28This is Stacy Clements with the Blue Share Group calling that I'll be your operator today. Joining me on the call are Rajeev Goel, Co Founder and CEO and Steve Pantelik, CFO. Before we get started, I have a few housekeeping items. Today's prepared remarks have been recorded after which Rajeev and Steve will host live Q and A. If you plan to ask a question, please ensure that you've set your Zoom name to display your full name and firm. Speaker 100:00:49If you would like to ask a question, please use the raise hand function located at the bottom of your screen. A copy of our press release can be found on the website at investors. Pomatic.com. I would like to remind participants that during this call, management will make forward looking statements, including without limitations, statements regarding our future performance, market opportunity, growth strategy and financial outlook. Forward looking statements are based on our current expectations and assumptions regarding our business, the economy and future conditions. Speaker 100:01:20These forward looking statements are subject to inherent risks, uncertainties and changes in circumstances that are difficult to predict. You can find more information about these risks, uncertainties and other factors in our reports filed from time to time with the Securities and Exchange Commission, including our most recent Form 10 ks and any subsequent filings on Forms 10 Q or 8 ks, which are on file with the Securities and Exchange Commission and are available at investors pomatic.com. Our actual results may differ materially from those contemplated by the forward looking statements. We caution you, therefore, against relying on any of these forward looking statements. All information discussed today is as of February 26, 2024, and we do not intend and undertake no obligation to update any forward looking statement, whether as a result of new information, future developments or otherwise, except as may be required by law. Speaker 100:02:12In addition, today's discussion will include references to certain non GAAP financial measures, including adjusted EBITDA, non GAAP net income and free cash flow. These non GAAP measures are presented for supplemental informational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for financial information presented in accordance with GAAP. A reconciliation of these measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measures is available in our press release. And now I will turn the call over to Rajiv. Speaker 200:02:41Thank you, Stacy, and welcome, everyone. Delivered a terrific Q4 with results that significantly exceeded our expectations on both the top and bottom line. Revenue growth accelerated to 14% over Q4 last year, which drove strong profit and cash generation. This inflection point in our growth was fueled by innovation investments we made over the past few years and particularly in 2023. I'm extremely proud of our entire team for their hard work, dedication and outstanding execution. Speaker 200:03:11We saw year over year growth in the quarter for both omni channel video and display. And I'm particularly excited about the contribution and growth of emerging revenue streams, which now represent a low single digit share of total revenue and I anticipate will expand significantly over the course of this year. Our results more than offset a sizable headwind from Yahoo! As they shutter their SSP business earlier in 2023 and continue to transition their technology for owned and operated inventory. Excluding Yahoo! Speaker 200:03:39Year over year revenue growth in the Q4 accelerated to 19%. Recall we had a similar revenue headwind from Yahoo! In Q3, making Q4 the 2nd consecutive quarter of accelerating revenue growth when excluding Yahoo! This highlights the strength of our platform, the value we deliver to publishers and buyers and the increasing importance of sell side technology across the ecosystem. Investments we've made over the last few years are gaining momentum and are becoming meaningful growth drivers. Speaker 200:04:09They've allowed us to expand our customer relationships and deepen technology integrations on the back of a growing product portfolio. We have built a flexible integrated platform that meets the needs of buyers, sellers, retailers and data providers across the digital advertising supply chain while delivering superior efficiency. As a result, we believe we are at the early stages of a period of significant multi year revenue growth and market share expansion. On top of that, there are several major tailwinds that we expect to benefit from. Shifts in ad budgets to CTV and Commerce Media, continued industry consolidation, as well as external forecasts pointing to a stable and constructive ad spend environment. Speaker 200:04:51With a focus on increasing shareholder value, we intend to drive market share gains, expand margins and generate strong cash flow. Underpinning this are a number of efficiency initiatives we implemented this past year across the business. In addition, we anticipate a 15% to 20% increase in engineering productivity in 20 24, driven by the use of generative AI and multiple points in the software development and release process. These efficiencies along with our expected revenue growth and strong financial profile give us the ability to reinvest back into the business and sales and engineering for market share gains, while simultaneously expanding our share repurchase program. We have significantly ramped Connect, our audience addressability platform for a variety of privacy compliant post cookie solutions. Speaker 200:05:39Over the last few months, we have seen a marked increase in activity on post cookie solutions as buyers and publishers prepare for the end of third party cookies. Just in Q4 alone, the number of revenue generating Connect customers increased by 20% from Q3 to over 100. We are also seeing more publishers adopt alternative signals with over 80% of impressions on our platform now having these signals available to buyers. Even more compelling, alternative identifiers provide more relevant higher ROI ads to consumers. Our analysis across more than 600,000,000,000 ad impressions process daily by POMATIC concluded that when alternative IDs are present, publisher revenue increased by 16%. Speaker 200:06:21There is a tremendous opportunity in front of us for the open Internet to take share from walled gardens. As the open Internet scales up alternative signals which drive increased advertiser performance combined with its inherent advantages of professionally created content relative to the walled gardens user generated content, the open Internet will be structurally more attractive to advertisers. For instance, we are collaborating closely with Group N on a market leading privacy compliant first party data solution developed by Resolve, a core of graph company specializing in distributed computing and federated learning applications for the ad tech industry. This partnership empowers advertisers to enhance their ad campaigns targeting capabilities without transferring any personal data outside of their native environment. POMATIC works alongside publishers to provide consumer cohorts based on customized next generation large language models for each of Group M's clients. Speaker 200:07:14Ad transactions are then facilitated on the POMATIC platform against these cohorts to deliver highly relevant ads and improve advertiser ROI. We're also working closely with Google, the UK Competition Markets Authority and Interactive Advertising Bureau's Tech Lab on the Privacy Sandbox Initiative. As part of the Google markets testing grants program, we are now facilitating end to end transactions with privacy sandbox APIs between multiple publishers and demand side platforms. Given our success and the increased market activity and advanced addressability solutions, we plan to grow our engineering team focused on this area as well as our Connect go to market team by several dozen people in 2024. The deprecation of 3rd party cookies is driving more buyers to lean into sell side technology partnerships. Speaker 200:08:00As a result of this and other trends, supply path optimization continues to be a major growth driver for us as we add new SPO relationships and expand existing ones. We have been investing in SPO technology and partnerships for 5 years and ended 2023 with a high watermark of over 45% of total activity coming from SPO. This is nearly double where we were just a few years ago. We see a significant greenfield opportunity ahead even beyond our initial goal of 50% of total activity. A recent study by the Association of National Advertisers identified that only 1 third of advertisers have engaged in SPO and that the average advertiser is working with 15 to 20 SSPs. Speaker 200:08:40The study also actively advocates for advertisers in addition to large agencies to engage in SPO, consolidating activity with preferred technology providers to drive increased efficiency, transparency and operational simplicity. SPO is also gaining momentum among independent agencies, unlocking additional opportunities for growth. We recently launched a partnership with Dolby Promote, an independent marketing agency managing clients like Intuit QuickBooks, Peacock, Spanx and TransUnion. Through our SPO partnership, we will provide supply chain efficiencies that enable them to solve complex challenges for their brand clients with a performance rooted approach to media. Dolby Promote's Head of Programmatic and Video, Skyler McGill, noted, through our preferred partnership with PubMatic, Delby Promote's clients will be able to more efficiently and transparently access curated CTV and video inventory to drive business outcomes and create unique competitive advantages. Speaker 200:09:37Our SP opportunity is further boosted by Activate, which is continuing to scale in both pipeline and revenue. We have an active pipeline of over 75 advertisers, agencies and campaigns. This pipeline is up by over 25% compared to the previous quarter. Earlier this month, we officially launched Activate in Japan, partnering with nearly a dozen leading CTV publishers in the region, including Asahi Television Broadcasting Corporation, Fuji Television, Nippon Television Network and Tokyo Broadcasting System Television. Premium streaming companies around the world are embracing Activate as buyers seek more efficient programmatic access to their inventory to drive measurable business outcomes. Speaker 200:10:19For example, a prominent luxury retailer in the U. S. Wanted to drive brand awareness across channels with a focus on video and CTV during the holiday shopping season. With Activate, their agency was able to reach their niche target audience across Pubmatics premium omnichannel video inventory, driving efficiencies across cost, operations and scale, ultimately achieving or exceeding each campaign KPI. As we continue to drive strong ROI for clients, I'm excited to tap into the nearly $65,000,000,000 expansion of our total addressable market that Activate represents. Speaker 200:10:53Together, SPO and Activate delivered strong profitable revenue growth in 2023. I continue to see tremendous opportunity ahead of us as buyers engage more closely and strategically with sell side technology providers like POMATIC. We plan to expand our buyer focused sales and customer success teams by 50% in 2024 in order to capture this opportunity and accelerate growth. Our growth trends with buyers also mirror the momentum we are seeing with publishers, particularly around high value CTV and online video formats. Omnichannel video revenue growth accelerated in the 4th quarter. Speaker 200:11:29We have 271 premium CTV publishers monetizing on the platform, up 27% over 2022 and we continue to have a robust pipeline of opportunity as we head into 2024. Most recently, we added Sling TV and Vivo as they seek access to the unique and differentiated demand we offer through our SPO and Activate relationships. Equally important, our strong SPO relationships are driving increased premium content to our platform, creating a network effect. For example, driven by buyer interest, we recently signed a deal with Dish Media to provide buyers with access to premium programming on Sling TV, including their broad range of live sports content. With major global sporting events like the Paris Summer Olympic Games and Copa America in the U. Speaker 200:12:15S. This year, we are excited to provide advertisers transparent, signal enhanced access to this valuable CTV inventory. We believe an interoperable approach is the only sustainable way to manage the anticipated growth in programmatic CTV advertising, particularly as newer entrants contribute to a rapid increase in CTV inventory and corresponding increases in ad dollars across the ecosystem. In 2023, we deepened engagement with CTV ad server providers like FreeWheel. And most recently, we expanded our relationship with the top 3 DSP partner by integrating their CTV demand onto our platform. Speaker 200:12:51The anticipated surge in buyer demand will bring increased ad dollars and monetization opportunities for streaming content providers on PubMatic. Our strong SVO relationships have also been instrumental in growing the size of our 1 to 1 private marketplace business, whereby publishers choose our platform to transact deals they sell directly to ad buyers. As publishers get familiar with the ease of use and benefits of our platform, they're increasingly using our software to run their 1 to 1 deals. Overall, revenue from 1 to 1 deals grew more than 50% year over year in 2023. Our strong Q4 results were built upon a foundation of sustained innovation that has been core to POMATIC's DNA since our inception. Speaker 200:13:32In no year was this more evident than in 2023. Last year, we increased software releases by 60% year over year, including delivering 2 of our biggest product launches ever with Activate and Convert. Not only did these launches mark an innovation milestone for our company, but also reinforced our position as one of the leading independent technology providers across the digital advertising ecosystem. We have spent the past few years scaling our product development to extend the value of our core SSP platform beyond ad monetization services. We offer wrapper software to large publishers with OpenWrap, solutions like Activate for buyers, post cookie targeting with Connect and Commerce Media with Convert, each adding new revenue streams in addition to the core SSP revenue we generate on ad impressions flowing through our platform. Speaker 200:14:20These solutions increase customer stickiness with more touch points and software integrations. They enrich the data flowing through our platform, making us more invaluable to our clients, and they provide us with clear points of differentiation. Collectively, these solutions have unlocked emerging revenue streams for our business and now drive meaningful revenue generation and growth on top of our core SSP revenue. We expect these solutions to contribute mid single digit percentages of revenue in 2024, more than doubling year over year. The changing dynamics of the industry and the evolving digital advertising supply chain are also ushering in a new era for the open Internet. Speaker 200:14:59Historically, performance advertising has been the domain of walled gardens. Now driven by the increase in 1st party and identity data, further fueled by the rise of commerce media as well as buyers ongoing focus on efficiency, we see a long term opportunity to drive ROI and outcomes based advertising on the open Internet. We see POMATIC as a platform best positioned to take advantage of this new opportunity. With the closed loop reporting invaluable commerce data available through convert, coupled with the efficiency and end to end control that Activate provides and the enhanced sell side data now available via Connect, we have the foundational building blocks in place to deliver performance advertising solutions that rival the walled gardens. While it's still early, we will increase our investment in product development and machine learning engineers to build new performance based solutions. Speaker 200:15:50As I predicted last quarter, Q4 was a clear inflection point up for revenue growth. Our strong performance highlights the value of our integrated platform and our customer centric approach to growth. As buyers continue to consolidate spend on our platform and take advantage of the growing solution suite we offer, how our publishers benefit from stronger monetization and greater utilization of our technology across our software products. I see tremendous opportunity ahead of us in 2024 and beyond to grow our market share and deliver shareholder value. We plan to expand our headcount by over 150 people this year to take advantage of the revenue growth opportunities ahead of us. Speaker 200:16:31These investments will pay off partially in 2024 and more fully in 2025. With our focus on efficiency and a robust business model, we anticipate expanding margins in 2024. I will now hand it over to Steve for the financial details. Speaker 300:16:45Thank you, Rajeev, and welcome, everyone. We ended the year with outstanding results across our business with 4th quarter revenue accelerating to 14% year over year and 33% sequentially versus Q3. There were several factors that drove this growth inflection point. We increased the total number of impressions monetized across all formats and channels by an impressive 29% over Q4 last year. Both omni channel video and display revenues increased year over year. Speaker 300:17:17We achieved robust growth in every geographic region. And our emerging revenue streams like Activate and OpenRAP added approximately 3 percentage points of growth in the quarter compared to Q4 2022. These results are particularly notable given the revenue headwinds in our business from Yahoo! That we commented on last quarter. Our revenue growth excluding Yahoo! Speaker 300:17:43Owned and operated inventory in the Q4 grew 19% over Q4 last year and grew 8% for the full year versus 2022. Along with our revenue acceleration, we've continued our long track record of profitability with adjusted EBITDA margin of 46%, and we generated the highest quarterly and full year free cash flow in the company's history at nearly $20,000,000 for Q4 $52,800,000 for the full year. These notable results once again highlight our robust business model, our operational excellence and our ability to grow our core business while simultaneously investing in our technology and products for revenue growth acceleration. Breaking Q4 down by format and channel, which includes Yahoo! Unless otherwise called out, omnichannel video revenue grew sequentially 31 percent from Q3 and 7% year over year. Speaker 300:18:45These results were powered by a 30% plus increase in monetized impressions, which offset year over year CPM declines. As a reminder, on a year over year basis, video CPMs declined in early 2023, but were relatively stable from August onwards. Display returned to growth for the first time this year, delivering strong year over year growth at 9%. Mobile display led the way at over 20% year over year growth. Excluding Yahoo! Speaker 300:19:15Total mobile and desktop display revenue grew 27% in the Q4. On a regional basis, every region grew double digit percentages in Q4. Looking at ad spend by category, we saw a notable recovery in the shopping vertical, which returned to year over year growth for the first time in 2023. The business, technology and personal finance categories in aggregate grew over 30%. Overall, the top 10 ad verticals combined increased by 26% over Q4 last year. Speaker 300:19:54Our excellent Q4 results were driven by ongoing innovation over many years and our focus on the operating priorities that I outlined a year ago. Collectively, we expect this rigor will accelerate revenues in 2024, while delivering an expanded strong margins and healthy cash flows. To recap, our first priority was to deepen our relationships with our publishers and buyers to be well positioned when the ad spend environment stabilizes. We did this through technology innovation on the Palmatic platform and partnership development. In 2023, we increased the number of high value video impressions we monetized on behalf of our customers by over 30%. Speaker 300:20:41With a focus on capacity optimization and targeted CapEx investments, our rate of acceleration increased as the year progressed. We increased activity from supply path optimization to over 45% of total, up from approximately 34% at the end of 2022. We maintain high rates of net spend retention from SPO buyers and very low churn underscoring the stickiness of these relationships. The net spend retention rate from SPO partners with at least 3 years of spending was 120%. We added 151 publishers in 2023, which includes premium CTV inventory and transactional commerce brands. Speaker 300:21:30And perhaps one of the most exciting things we accomplished in 2023 was the ramp up of our emerging revenue streams through new products, incremental data connections and sticky software integrations. Our second operating priority was to drive free cash flow generation. Coupled with our durable model, we were disciplined in capital allocation and ongoing investments. We delivered $52,800,000 of free cash flow, a 38% increase over 2022. Over the last 3 years, we generated over $140,000,000 of free cash flow, which has provided us the flexibility to continually invest, accelerate growth and differentiate our product offerings. Speaker 300:22:18And third, we focused on establishing a new level of efficiency in our cost structure. Our owned and operated infrastructure provides tremendous leverage in our business. On the back of CapEx investment in 20212022, Our focus in 2023 was on driving increased optimization. These efforts resulted in more than 20% additional capacity on our platform while allowing us to reduce CapEx by more than 70% versus 2022. In addition, our efforts delivered an 8% reduction in cost of revenue per impression processed. Speaker 300:22:58We also drove efficiencies across our product and engineering teams supported by generative AI and through a highly efficient productive development organization in India. We launched and scaled a mid market customer success team in India to deliver outstanding account management with greater focus and efficiency. Through the combination of improved engineering productivity and cost efficiency efforts, we have improved our cost base by over 20,000,000 dollars Full year GAAP operating expenses were 165,700,000 dollars a 23% increase over 2022, reflecting investments across the business. Included in this total is $5,700,000 of bad debt expense related to the bankruptcy of 1 of our buyers in Q2. Extending our long track record of standout financial performance, 2023 marked our 8th straight year of GAAP net income and 11th straight year of positive adjusted EBITDA. Speaker 300:24:05Full year GAAP net income was $8,900,000 or $0.16 per diluted share. Non GAAP net income, which adjusts for unrealized loss on equity investments, stock based compensation expense and related adjustments for income taxes was $32,000,000 or $0.57 per diluted share. We ended 2023 with $175,300,000 in cash and marketable securities and 0 debt. During the year, we used our significant free cash flow for growth investments and we repurchased shares as planned. As of December 31st, we had repurchased 4,000,000 shares of our Class A common stock for $59,000,000 in cash and we reduced our fully diluted weighted average shares outstanding. Speaker 300:24:54We had approximately $16,000,000 remaining from our prior authorization at the end of the year. Consistent with our long term capital allocation strategy, supported by our healthy balance sheet and strong cash generation, we plan to continue our capital allocation strategy of 1st investing for growth and second returning capital to shareholders. Accordingly, the Board of Directors has authorized the repurchase of up to an additional $100,000,000 of the company's Class A common stock through the end of 2025 on top of the remaining funds from our prior authorization. Turning to 2024, we are seeing a more constructive ad spend environment and are planning for accelerated year over year revenue growth and incremental margin expansion. This means investing in areas where we see the highest returns while driving further efficiencies across the business. Speaker 300:25:56Key incremental investment areas include innovation and go to market resource. We plan to add more engineers to drive our post cookie solutions and develop new revenue opportunities such as performance advertising. We plan to increase our buyer focused sales and customer success team by 50% to accelerate growth in SPO and ACTIVATE. And we plan to hire more salespeople to focus on growing our emerging revenue streams coming from our enterprise grade OpenRAP software, post cookie targeting with Connect and Commerce. Overall, we expect to add more than 150 net new team members this year. Speaker 300:26:40In addition, we expect to increase CapEx by $7,000,000 over 2023 levels to support the growth of our new products. And finally, we anticipate we will achieve further productivity gains through the use of AI and continued cost efficiencies by focusing on capacity and infrastructure optimization. Based on our successful long term track record of maximizing the return of our growth investments, we are confident that our 2024 operating plan will help us accelerate our revenue growth to over 10% this year, which includes the Yahoo! Headwind referenced earlier. Excluding Yahoo! Speaker 300:27:17This growth translates to over 12% year over year growth. At the same time, we anticipate expanding our adjusted EBITDA margin and generating positive cash from operations in line with 2023. Turning to Q1. With a tailwind from our strong finish to the year, we are starting 2024 on solid footing. January trends were excellent with double digit percentage increase in monetized impressions on a year over year basis. Speaker 300:27:47CPMs were in line with seasonal expectations and emerging revenue streams continue to grow. Notably, omni channel video revenues were up double digit percentages year over year and display revenues also increased year over year. Based on these recent trends, we anticipate Q1 2024 revenue to be in the range of $61,000,000 to $63,000,000 or 12% year over year growth at the midpoint and 17% growth excluding Yahoo. In terms of cost, GAAP cost of revenue in Q1 is expected to be approximately $26,000,000 over the coming quarters as a function of continued proactive steps on productivity and cost saving measures, we anticipate keeping sequential quarter over quarter cost increases in the low single digit percentages. We expect Q1 GAAP OpEx to increase approximately $5,000,000 versus Q4. Speaker 300:28:46This increase absorbs the Q4 run rate of expense, global annual cost of living adjustments that are effective in Q1 plus an additional cost related to our January global sales conference. With our focused investments for growth, we anticipate that OpEx will increase sequentially in the low single digit percentages Q2 onwards. Given our revenue guidance and our cost structure, which is largely fixed in the near term by design, we expect our Q1 adjusted EBITDA to be between $10,000,000 $12,000,000 or approximately 18% margin at the midpoint. As a reminder, historically, our Q1 is impacted by prior year investments that carry forward during a period of low seasonal ad spend. We expect profitability to improve as the year progresses driven by our continued focus on productivity improvements, cost efficiencies and typical seasonal increases in ad spend. Speaker 300:29:43For the full year, we expect adjusted EBITDA margin to be approximately 30%. We expect CapEx to be between $16,000,000 to $18,000,000 for the full year. Over many years, we have developed a successful playbook to drive sustained innovation and operational excellence. This gives us the confidence to incrementally invest for future growth while continuing to deliver robust profitability and cash flow. As one of the largest independent sell side technology providers, I'm very excited about prospects in 2024 and the trajectory we are on for sustained double digit growth this year and beyond. Speaker 300:30:27With that, I'll turn the call over to Stacy for questions. Speaker 100:30:31Thank you, Steve. As a reminder, you can ask a question by raising your hand located on the dashboard. If you're on your phone, please press star 9. Our first question comes from Shweta Kuchariah at Evercore. Please go ahead, Shweta. Speaker 400:30:50Thanks, Stacy. Let me try 2, please. So, first one, Rajiv, on cookie deprecation. I guess the question is, what is your sense in terms of the readiness of publishers and advertisers if cookies were to go away in Q3 and more so by Q4? Do you think that they are ready to transition on both sides, the large advertisers as well as publishers? Speaker 400:31:15And then also on cookie, so this is part of question 1. Also on cookie, you talked about the 80% adoption of alternative IDs. I guess the question there is how does it work once cookies do go away in terms of your revenue exposure that has been reliant on cookies? Is it simply that cookies go away, publishers have alternative IDs, so ROI goes up and potentially CPMs could go up. And those publishers that don't have alternative IDs will likely get lower CPMs. Speaker 400:31:50Could you help us think through how it would impact you? And then the second question for Steve is, Steve, could you please help us with the cadence of the revenue acceleration through the year as all these new incremental products will start playing a role? It sounds like mid single digit percentage in terms of full year contribution is how you characterized it, but how should we think about it through the year? Thanks a lot. Yeah. Speaker 200:32:16But why don't I start thinking, Shweta, on the cookie piece, and I'll turn it over to Steve. So I would say there's a mixed level of readiness across the ecosystem. We have been working for 4 or 5 years now on our Connect product. So we feel quite good about how we're positioned. Some publishers are ahead of the curve, some publishers behind the curve. Speaker 200:32:34And I would say the same is true of advertisers and agencies. You saw what we announced with GroupM and Resolve around model of cohorts today. So that's a great example of getting ahead of the curve. I emphasize that we are not dependent on how privacy sandbox evolves or what Google does. So we have been scaling non cookie environments such as CTV, commerce media, mobile app. Speaker 200:32:59You know, all of these areas are growing as a percentage of revenue, as well as just the raw volume of impressions. And so we have plenty of impression opportunities to meet advertiser needs. And as you commented, 80% impressions on our platform now have alternative signals available to the 3rd party cookie. I think there will be a transition period when that cookie deprecation, you know, timeline happens. It's impossible, you know, to be fully, for everybody in the ecosystem to be fully transitioned away from the cookie while the cookie is still around. Speaker 200:33:32But we've been building signal. That percentage has been growing. It's going to continue to grow. So we feel really good about all the things we're doing around alternative IDs, contextual advertising, publisher first party data and modeled cohorts. And then stepping back, what I see is that privacy sandbox is introducing significant complexity into the ecosystem. Speaker 200:33:52It's an entirely new parallel option environment. And there's a collection of APIs that have to be implemented, and those APIs themselves are evolving rapidly. So what that means is that it will take substantial and sustained engineering investment in order to compete effectively. And we're in a position to make that investment. It's factored into our 2024 plan. Speaker 200:34:12I suspect there are many companies in the ecosystem, in the ad tech ecosystem that will not be in a position to make that investment. So this may very well be a share gain opportunity for us. Let me turn over to you, Steve, on the revenue piece. Speaker 300:34:26Great. Thanks, Sweta, for the question. So a couple of things just to highlight. Number 1, our guidance at the midpoint is about 12% year over year growth. So clearly a step up from where we were historically in the first half of twenty twenty three. Speaker 300:34:43So overall, we feel that the start of the year is very robust and positive. And then to your question and comment, we have additive over time in the emerging revenue streams. So I expect that through the course of the year, we'll continue to build on the momentum we've established in the Q1. It'll probably match a more seasonal expectation in terms of historical averages. So expected growth in Q2 versus Q1 and then strong Q4, which will be supplemented by our emerging revenue streams. Speaker 300:35:20The other comment to note on emerging revenues is that it's really positive on a number of fronts for us, not the least of which is net new in many cases, but it's SaaS like revenue and more stable and less prone to, let's say, the ups and downs of the overall ad spend environment. So we see a lot of stability in those revenue streams and build up over time. And our current expectation is that by the end of the year, we will have doubled the portion of our revenue emerging revenue streams through the course of this ramp up and investment in these areas. Speaker 100:36:00Thanks, Rajeev. Thanks, Steve. Our next question comes from Matt Swanson, RBC. Please go ahead, Matt. Speaker 500:36:09Yes. Thanks, Stacy. Congratulations on the quarter, guys. I think I want to stay maybe on the SPO side. And like you mentioned, you're dangerously close to hitting those long term targets of 50%. Speaker 500:36:22And I guess the 2 parter on that would be, 1, do you have a new number that sticks out in your head is like what the long term contribution from SPO is? And then also just kind of thinking this journey we've been on, how the value proposition of SPO has changed from today versus when it started? Speaker 200:36:41Sure. Yeah. Thank you, Matt. So with respect to SPO, as you mentioned, right, we are very close to the targets that we had set out earlier. When I think about it, I think long term, maybe 3 quarters of our business could be SPO based. Speaker 200:36:55So let's, you know, pencil that in as kind of the next frontier, the next watermark for us to hit. I think there's still a tremendous amount of opportunity. As I mentioned in the prepared remarks, we are expanding the sales and customer success teams here by 50% in order to go after it. We highlighted Wpromote more of an independent agency. We see a lot of activity on the advertiser front. Speaker 200:37:20So in terms of, you know, how the value proposition has evolving, it certainly has been evolving. And I think the kind of economic cycle that maybe we're still in or maybe we're most of the way through, you know, has also changed where the value proposition is headed for SPO. So it used to be about simplifying operations in order to focus on high quality inventory from a media buyer's perspective. And I think as we've gotten deeper into these SPO conversations and relationships, we found a whole set of different opportunities for us to focus on. So, helping make the buyer more efficient, is certainly one that buyers are very focused on these days. Speaker 200:38:02You know, that ANA study where buyers are still working with 15 to 20 SSPs. Obviously, that's a metric that's far too high and is not going to be sustained. Buyers are looking for help with the privacy and regulatory environment. So, there's more and more privacy regulations around the world, and they need to be compliant in all places where they do business. There's 20 some U. Speaker 200:38:25S. State regulations in place now or coming in place. Post cookie targeting is another area. So the exactly the point that we made with GroupM and Resolve. So I think it's turning into a much more multifaceted data workflow efficiency, compliance, opportunity, which creates, you know, tremendous, I think, innovation opportunity for us and tremendous growth opportunity for us. Speaker 500:38:54And then if I could ask one more. Steve, you mentioned some of this being more SaaS like revenue. One of the interesting parts of DSPO is it makes your spend like almost more DSP like, right, where it's about ad budgets and less CPM sensitive. So can you just talk about like as like let's say we got to 75% SPO activity, what that does for your visibility in terms of being able to forecast revenue? Speaker 300:39:19Well, I absolutely think it grows. And to Rajeev's point, I mean, we've gone on this journey with buyers and we learn more and more every day and deepen the relationships. I shared the stickiness measure and the incremental spend that we see from our SPO relationships. So all of that contributes to what I'll call the stability of our revenues over time. But the aspect with respect to emerging revenues is that you know, it's something that is built on, you know, our innovation capabilities and it's on top of our platform. Speaker 300:39:54And so we are finding significant pockets of opportunity, these SaaS business models, you know, whether it be database through our Connect, OpenRAP software, enterprise grade software, we are able to charge for that. And of course, the significant launch of Activate, which adds a net new revenue stream in terms of buyer fees. So all of these help to add incremental revenues, but also a level of stability. And as that grows over time, I would expect the degree of revenue predictability will grow. Speaker 100:40:34Thank you, Steve. Our next question comes from James Heaney at Jefferies. Please go ahead, James. Speaker 600:40:42Great. Thanks for the question. Can you talk a little bit more just about your CTV growth strategy and how do you feel about the inventory that you currently have access today? And and do you see a world in which you could access to the premium CTV inventory that we're seeing, entering the market? Thank you. Speaker 200:40:58Yeah. Sure, James. Thank you. So, yeah, when we think about, CTV inventory, I feel really good about how well positioned we are. Year over year, CTV publisher count grew from 214q4 of 22 to 271 in Q4 of 2023. Speaker 200:41:15So that's significant count or significant growth in terms of the number of publishers. And what I see happening is that there's a lot of momentum, particularly with the biggest names, the biggest streamers or broadcasters, and it's being driven by a network effect with buyers and supply path optimization, as well as the strength of our technology platform. So buyers are increasingly consolidating their spend on our platform. Our Activate product extends that even further. And Dish and Sling are a good example of that, where then they want access to those dollars, of course. Speaker 200:41:49And so the as we ramp these SPO relationships and get deeper with buyers, then that brings more publishers to our platform. And then the other, I think, really nice expansion opportunity is that as CTV publishers use our platform and see the benefits of it, they are moving more of their, you know, 1 to 1 private marketplace or programmatic guaranteed deals to our platform. So these are this is a deal that a publisher would sell to a single advertiser, and they're moving those deals to our platform. We grew that segment by 50% year over year last year. And we have, I think, a low share of the market in that arena, that one to 1 deals space. Speaker 200:42:27And so I think there's a lot of runway ahead of us. And the last comment I'll just make is that the vast majority of CTV monetization that we have on our platform today is in the U. S, but we see tremendous opportunity in a variety of different parts around the world. Europe is growing quickly. In APAC, we highlighted earlier, the Activate publisher reaction in Japan. Speaker 200:42:51So I think there's a variety of different markets where we're going to continue to grow CTV at a rapid rate. Speaker 600:42:58Great. And then Steve, maybe just one quick follow-up on the guide for 2024. Last year, you you weren't able to provide guidance, but this year, it looks like you have, you know, a little bit more visibility. Is that Is that sort of what's giving you the conviction to guide to the full year? Like just what's kind of giving you that increased visibility? Speaker 300:43:19There's actually a number of factors. 1st and foremost is we do see a more constructive ad environment out there. So that's number 1. Number 2 is many of the things that we've been working on for a number of years around innovation really started to take hold in the back half of 2023. You saw the outstanding results in the Q4. Speaker 300:43:40If you exclude the Yahoo owned and operated inventory, you know, our business grew 19% in the Q4. And so when we look ahead at the opportunities, we're going to build on that momentum. We have been investing behind Omni channel video, which you've called out some of the factors there. We are seeing terrific, you know, momentum from SPO relationships, that will continue to grow as proportion of our total business. So that adds a tailwind to us. Speaker 300:44:11And then, of course, we continue to, you know, have progress with our new emerging revenue side to activate, connect, Open Graph. So all told, you know, when we look at 24, we're seeing a minimum growth expectation of 10 plus percent. And if you strip out the Yahoo! Component, that's 12 over 12%. So we're feeling really good about where we are right now. Speaker 300:44:36Obviously, we'll update the investor group as time goes on. But we have really good start to the year and many things that have already gained traction and, you know, are building. Speaker 100:44:53Our next question comes from Justin Patterson at KeyBanc. Please go ahead, Justin. Speaker 600:44:59Great. Thank you very much and good afternoon. To build on that last question, I wanted to dive into the head count investments some more within there. It does sound like you have some tailwinds, so leaning into that. But how should we think about just the returns from this headcount investment? Speaker 600:45:17And if say that the tailwind gets a bit stronger over the course of this year, Will you look to invest a little bit more aggressively than what's currently in plan or drop more through to the bottom line? Thank you. Speaker 300:45:31Sure. I'll take the first part and then Rajiv, you could add some comments in terms of our strategy. But, you know, just to set the stage, Justin, and you know, we obviously have proven that we are a very profitable business in the Q4, a 46% adjusted EBITDA margin. So we have a great business model. And when we take a look at the momentum that we've been building up the traction in SPO and our new areas of growth. Speaker 300:46:00We absolutely feel this is the right time to invest more significantly. And so it's around, of course, innovation and around sales. And so we think that, with that combined investment profile, we're going to growth investments, pay off. And so, to make growth investments pay off. And so if we see, there is further opportunities, there's no reason why we wouldn't potentially increase our rate of investment. Speaker 300:46:35But what's makes our business particularly strong, robust and unique is our ability to still deliver robust margins. Right now, we're aiming to be about the 30% EBITDA margin even with the incremental investment that we've called out. And so we see this as focus on growth while also delivering very strong bottom line results. Speaker 200:47:01Yes. Hey, Justin, I'll just add, our priorities are clearly shifting. The last 18 months or so, it's been a fairly weak ad spend environment, as you know. And so then our priorities were really focused on covering the large customer base, covering the largest customers in our customer base, innovating for where the growth opportunity is heading to. And, you know, we've talked a lot about those products. Speaker 200:47:21And then third, just making our business more efficient. And I think we did a really strong job in all of those areas. And so now as we get into a more constructive environment, we're really focused on accelerating revenue growth, right. And Steve called out some of the metrics. And I think you're seeing that acceleration happen pretty quickly through Q4 and Q1 and onwards. Speaker 200:47:42So, we will be very, I would say, opportunistic around where we see growth opportunities and just continuing to invest behind them. Think we're pretty comfortable with the profitability in the business model, as Steve highlighted, strong cash generation as well. And so we're going to put the bias towards accelerating revenue growth. Speaker 100:48:08Thanks, Rajeev. Our next question comes from Matt Condon at JMP. Please go ahead, Matt. Speaker 700:48:15Thanks for taking my question. Just with the shutdown of Vice and Buzzfeed selling complex, can you just opine on the health of the digital publishers we enter 2024? Is this a structural change or is this just a macro cycle? And then maybe a second one, can you just talk about advertiser adoption of ID Hub and just how you're expecting that to trend throughout 2024? Thank you. Speaker 200:48:38Yes, sure. Thank you, Matt, for the question. So, yes, let's start with the first one in terms of a couple of companies you cited and help with pubs. So, as we talked about over the last year and a half, and I just mentioned in the prior question and answer, you know, the growth opportunities always shift in this industry through an economic cycle. And we've been through cycles before, so we know that to be the case. Speaker 200:49:02And so the opportunities really are shifting towards areas like CTV, Commerce Media, and publishers where they have, you know, certain types of data assets. And I think what we see happening is, you know, in the case of those publishers and other digital publishers, you know, they may not be keeping up with where those growth opportunities lie, and therefore, you know, suffering as a result. Now we've seen this coming. And so, over the last several years, we've been really focused on innovating our products in these areas, growing the share of our business. You know, that's coming from CTV and omnichannel video. Speaker 200:49:39That's coming from Commerce Media. And, you know, that has, you know, this kind of alternative signal to the key attached to it, so that we can be market share gainers in this process. So I think that's kind of what you see at play is that even as ad spend now starts to accelerate, there's going to be pockets, there's going to be winners and losers. And what you see with our growth numbers is that we're well positioned with where the high growth opportunities are. Now turning to your second question around Identity Hub. Speaker 200:50:11So just a quick reminder of what Identity Hub does is, it is software that publishers can deploy that allows them to easily convert, data that they have on a user into a variety of different alternative IDs. So if a publisher has an email address, for instance, on a user and they have consent, then they can convert that into a UID 2, into a LiveRamp ID, into, I think we're now at 29 different IDs. So we have several 100 publishers that have Identity Hub deployed, and we plan to add, you know, significantly, probably in the triple digits of additional customers this year. And we expect that we may be able to exceed those numbers as we get closer to the cookie deprecation timeline. But again, it's a key part of growing the signal that we have in order to generate higher CPMs, 16% higher on average when we have IDs present. Speaker 100:51:12And our next question comes from Andrew Merrick at Raymond James. Please go ahead, Andrew. Speaker 800:51:17Hi, guys. Thanks for taking my questions. I was wondering if you could give maybe a little bit more color on the generative AI impact on engineering productivity. Is that adoption of external products or anything generated internally because I know you guys like to own and operate your own infrastructure. And you've talked about the 60% increase in software releases in 2023. Speaker 800:51:38How impactful can these tools be for release velocity in in 24? Speaker 200:51:42Yeah. Great. Thanks, Andrew. So, you know, there's, of course, there's multiple branches of of AI. For example, machine learning and, you know, obviously, the much newer generative AI. Speaker 200:51:51So just for a little bit of context, you know, we have long standing use in expertise in machine learning. We use that quite extensively for programmatic transactions that happen in milliseconds, things like price floors, traffic efficiency, various auction management algorithms. Now with respect to generative AI, we pushed hard in 2023 to test and scale a number of new approaches to software development, to testing and release automation using Gen AI tools. And if you can name a tool, we've probably tested it. So we're using a combination, of variety of third party tools. Speaker 200:52:25We've also built some things, in house ourselves. We've seen good results and, you know, have been scaling those things up. And that's, you know, what's leading us to anticipate 15% to 20% increase in engineering productivity in 2024. And maybe I can give, you know, 2 concrete examples of how we're putting Gen AI to work. So the first is that, by automating a lot of the software testing process, we've been able to increase the ratio of engineers to testing personnel. Speaker 200:52:55So by using Gen AI tools, we're able to automate a lot of the manual testing that used to happen. And so that's a structural gain now where for, you know, dollars 1,000,000 of engineering investment, we can have more engineers that are writing, you know, new features and new capabilities. And so that's, you know, part of that productivity game. And then, you know, sticking on that testing theme, by automating a lot of that testing, we're able to release software faster by, you know, really automating the entire pipeline from development to testing to deployment. So we used to have an approach, you know, a couple of years ago where, you know, we might ship every ship software every couple of weeks and had to go through these, you know, testing cycles and make sure that that everything worked properly. Speaker 200:53:37Now individual engineering teams within PubMatic, they can release software at will, because we've been able to automate. So an engineer can write code, one day and, within 24 hours, that code can be released into production. And so that has a tremendous, I think, acceleration of our development and iteration cycles, which should lead to not only faster productivity, but also I would expect accelerated revenue growth. Speaker 800:54:04And you preempted my follow-up question on examples, so I'm all set. Thank you. Speaker 200:54:08Great. Thanks, Andrew. Speaker 100:54:11Our next question comes from Jason Helfstein at Oppenheimer. Please go ahead, Jason. Speaker 900:54:21Thanks. A few questions kind of maybe interconnected. So just on alternative IDs, when publishers choose, let's say, to use like a UID or Ramp ID, is there any additional cost to you to help them support those IDs? Or just broadly, is there a cost that has to be borne by the ecosystem that, you know, you have to share a piece of? That that's question 1, and then I've got a follow-up. Speaker 200:54:47Sure. Yeah. So, Jason, generally, the cost is borne by the advertiser that's using that ID. So publishers don't bear a cost to, let's say, convert an email address into a UID 2 or into a LiveRamp ID. We do not, you know, bear licensing costs. Speaker 200:55:05We do have some infrastructure costs. So that's part of the CapEx budget that Steve commented on earlier. But that's more than offset by the fact that we generate higher CPMs with those impressions. And, you know, given our usage model, our revenue share, then we're able to make even more net revenue on those impressions. So the economics for us and for the publisher are very clear and very positive. Speaker 200:55:31And then obviously, each advertiser is doing their own math in terms of how much of those IDs they want to use. Speaker 900:55:36Got it. Thank you. And then follow-up. I mean, I guess, kind of starting with the guidance for free cash flow being flat year over year despite healthy revenue growth. And then there are a number of like puts and takes in 2023 on kind of like one time items in both revenue and costs. Speaker 900:55:54I mean, just how are you thinking about maybe margin expansion going forward? Just it seems like as the business gets bigger, it does require more capital and you're obviously hiring more people because the business is getting more complicated basically. But just are you thinking about kind of maybe margins over margin expansion over the next few years or really kind of like close to like peak margins? Speaker 300:56:18Sure. Thanks, Jason, for the question. So we think that there is absolutely a lot of opportunity over the long run to expand margin. I mean, we're taking a very specific concrete opportunity right now, given where we see momentum and the digital ad environment to invest for growth. And so we're being very thoughtful about it in terms of where we're putting the people, the team, technology, sales and that will have returns over the next couple of years. Speaker 300:56:52But if you step back and just think about the company that we built over many years, we actually have many structural drivers that really support our long term margin expansion. First and foremost, of course, we have our own and operated infrastructure. And so you saw the power of what we could do in 2023, We were able to optimize that infrastructure and grow our capacity by 20% while reducing our capex by 70%. So very powerful leverage point that we decide when we take advantage of it and how we then deploy those returns. Number 2, as a reminder, we are investing in the fastest growing most profitable component segments of the digital ad environment, omni channel video, mobile, the emerging revenue streams. Speaker 300:57:43And so these products have very high marginal profitability. So we anticipate that will be a tailwind on margin. And then, of course, we talked about the structural aspects of generative AI and the long term asset that we built in India with our development organization. That is something that is going to sustain, strong economics for years to come. And then when you think about a strategic point of view, what we've done as a business, being a pioneer in supply path optimization, we now have over 45% of all of our activity is related to SPO activity relationships and we expect that to grow. Speaker 300:58:28Why is that important? Is that we've already incurred the costs to process those impressions. So when we move more people, more buyers onto our platform as a result of SPO, the incremental costs are de minimis. So that's sort of like structurally feel really good about where we're going in the long run. And then of course, all the factors of as a company, our long term focus is on being operational excellence. Speaker 300:58:5811 straight years of adjusted EBITDA profitability speaks to sort of the structural advantages we have and just the mindset that we operate with. Speaker 900:59:09Thank you. Speaker 100:59:12And our last question comes from Max Michalis at Lake Street. Please go ahead, Max. Speaker 300:59:17Hey, guys. It's good to see Speaker 1000:59:18the top 10 verticals grow 26% in the quarter. I was wondering if you could if you wanted highlight any other verticals? I know you touched on business and shopping, maybe if there's any other verticals that performed well and then how some of those verticals have trended into Q1, we're about 2 months into the quarter. Speaker 300:59:35Sure. So the great news is that we saw double digit growth across every top 10 vertical in the Q4. So we have not seen that, you know, throughout 23 And I called out in my prepared comments that shopping was a real standout because it went from down year over year in the prior quarters to positive. And of course, I commented specifically on a couple of the verticals that grew over 30%. But we had across the board, travel, food and drink, automotive, health and fitness. Speaker 301:00:06These are all double digit growers. So very strong across the board and it really speaks to the strength of our platform as an omni channel platform with a very diverse publisher base and diverse buying ecosystem. Turning to the Q1, we've seen many of those same trends continue in the Q1. Obviously, we're still in the middle of it, but very pleased to see continued momentum in shopping and the other verticals like business technology also continue to grow nicely. Speaker 1001:00:41All right. And then last one for me. I saw the SPO retention rate was 120%. What should we think of as a normalized range for that Speaker 301:00:49metric? I don't see why that couldn't be a normalized metric over time based upon a couple of things. Number 1, these are steep relationships and so we're solving problems, creating opportunities for our SPO partners. And so, they're moving more and more spend. They're looking for more opportunities across their own ecosystems of how they can take advantage of our platform and our capabilities. Speaker 301:01:14So, we believe that sort of adds a natural tailwind. The other facet is just always adding new opportunities like Activate Commerce Media. So, I think that the takeaway is 120% is a reflection of sort of the strength of our platform, the relationships, and I think is a good indicator of what the future potentially presents. Speaker 1001:01:42All right. Thanks, guys. Nice quarter. Speaker 201:01:44Thank you, Max. Speaker 101:01:47Great. Thank you. There are no further questions in the queue, so I'm going to turn it back over to Rajeev for closing remarks now. Speaker 201:01:53Thank you, Stacy, and thank you all for joining us today. Q4 was an inflection point where we saw prior strategic investments fuel accelerated revenue growth, strong margins and cash generation. In addition, we executed well against our top operating priorities for the year, which drove significant cost savings and efficiencies, all of which set us up well for 2024. We expect to grow our business by 10% at minimum in 2024, which is more than double our growth rate in 2023, while also expanding margins. At the same time, we'll continue to invest in key areas and unlock emerging revenue streams. Speaker 201:02:27This is an exciting time in ad tech and we're very well positioned to grow our market share as the industry evolves. We look forward to seeing many of you over the next month or 2. 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There are 11 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Hello everyone and welcome to PubMatic's 4th Quarter and Full Year 2023 earnings call. My name is Kelsey, and I will be your Zoom operator for today. We thank you all for your attendance today, and as a reminder, today's webinar is being recorded. Operator00:00:14And now I will turn things over to Stacy Clements with The Blueshirt Group. Stacy, over to you. Good Speaker 100:00:28This is Stacy Clements with the Blue Share Group calling that I'll be your operator today. Joining me on the call are Rajeev Goel, Co Founder and CEO and Steve Pantelik, CFO. Before we get started, I have a few housekeeping items. Today's prepared remarks have been recorded after which Rajeev and Steve will host live Q and A. If you plan to ask a question, please ensure that you've set your Zoom name to display your full name and firm. Speaker 100:00:49If you would like to ask a question, please use the raise hand function located at the bottom of your screen. A copy of our press release can be found on the website at investors. Pomatic.com. I would like to remind participants that during this call, management will make forward looking statements, including without limitations, statements regarding our future performance, market opportunity, growth strategy and financial outlook. Forward looking statements are based on our current expectations and assumptions regarding our business, the economy and future conditions. Speaker 100:01:20These forward looking statements are subject to inherent risks, uncertainties and changes in circumstances that are difficult to predict. You can find more information about these risks, uncertainties and other factors in our reports filed from time to time with the Securities and Exchange Commission, including our most recent Form 10 ks and any subsequent filings on Forms 10 Q or 8 ks, which are on file with the Securities and Exchange Commission and are available at investors pomatic.com. Our actual results may differ materially from those contemplated by the forward looking statements. We caution you, therefore, against relying on any of these forward looking statements. All information discussed today is as of February 26, 2024, and we do not intend and undertake no obligation to update any forward looking statement, whether as a result of new information, future developments or otherwise, except as may be required by law. Speaker 100:02:12In addition, today's discussion will include references to certain non GAAP financial measures, including adjusted EBITDA, non GAAP net income and free cash flow. These non GAAP measures are presented for supplemental informational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for financial information presented in accordance with GAAP. A reconciliation of these measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measures is available in our press release. And now I will turn the call over to Rajiv. Speaker 200:02:41Thank you, Stacy, and welcome, everyone. Delivered a terrific Q4 with results that significantly exceeded our expectations on both the top and bottom line. Revenue growth accelerated to 14% over Q4 last year, which drove strong profit and cash generation. This inflection point in our growth was fueled by innovation investments we made over the past few years and particularly in 2023. I'm extremely proud of our entire team for their hard work, dedication and outstanding execution. Speaker 200:03:11We saw year over year growth in the quarter for both omni channel video and display. And I'm particularly excited about the contribution and growth of emerging revenue streams, which now represent a low single digit share of total revenue and I anticipate will expand significantly over the course of this year. Our results more than offset a sizable headwind from Yahoo! As they shutter their SSP business earlier in 2023 and continue to transition their technology for owned and operated inventory. Excluding Yahoo! Speaker 200:03:39Year over year revenue growth in the Q4 accelerated to 19%. Recall we had a similar revenue headwind from Yahoo! In Q3, making Q4 the 2nd consecutive quarter of accelerating revenue growth when excluding Yahoo! This highlights the strength of our platform, the value we deliver to publishers and buyers and the increasing importance of sell side technology across the ecosystem. Investments we've made over the last few years are gaining momentum and are becoming meaningful growth drivers. Speaker 200:04:09They've allowed us to expand our customer relationships and deepen technology integrations on the back of a growing product portfolio. We have built a flexible integrated platform that meets the needs of buyers, sellers, retailers and data providers across the digital advertising supply chain while delivering superior efficiency. As a result, we believe we are at the early stages of a period of significant multi year revenue growth and market share expansion. On top of that, there are several major tailwinds that we expect to benefit from. Shifts in ad budgets to CTV and Commerce Media, continued industry consolidation, as well as external forecasts pointing to a stable and constructive ad spend environment. Speaker 200:04:51With a focus on increasing shareholder value, we intend to drive market share gains, expand margins and generate strong cash flow. Underpinning this are a number of efficiency initiatives we implemented this past year across the business. In addition, we anticipate a 15% to 20% increase in engineering productivity in 20 24, driven by the use of generative AI and multiple points in the software development and release process. These efficiencies along with our expected revenue growth and strong financial profile give us the ability to reinvest back into the business and sales and engineering for market share gains, while simultaneously expanding our share repurchase program. We have significantly ramped Connect, our audience addressability platform for a variety of privacy compliant post cookie solutions. Speaker 200:05:39Over the last few months, we have seen a marked increase in activity on post cookie solutions as buyers and publishers prepare for the end of third party cookies. Just in Q4 alone, the number of revenue generating Connect customers increased by 20% from Q3 to over 100. We are also seeing more publishers adopt alternative signals with over 80% of impressions on our platform now having these signals available to buyers. Even more compelling, alternative identifiers provide more relevant higher ROI ads to consumers. Our analysis across more than 600,000,000,000 ad impressions process daily by POMATIC concluded that when alternative IDs are present, publisher revenue increased by 16%. Speaker 200:06:21There is a tremendous opportunity in front of us for the open Internet to take share from walled gardens. As the open Internet scales up alternative signals which drive increased advertiser performance combined with its inherent advantages of professionally created content relative to the walled gardens user generated content, the open Internet will be structurally more attractive to advertisers. For instance, we are collaborating closely with Group N on a market leading privacy compliant first party data solution developed by Resolve, a core of graph company specializing in distributed computing and federated learning applications for the ad tech industry. This partnership empowers advertisers to enhance their ad campaigns targeting capabilities without transferring any personal data outside of their native environment. POMATIC works alongside publishers to provide consumer cohorts based on customized next generation large language models for each of Group M's clients. Speaker 200:07:14Ad transactions are then facilitated on the POMATIC platform against these cohorts to deliver highly relevant ads and improve advertiser ROI. We're also working closely with Google, the UK Competition Markets Authority and Interactive Advertising Bureau's Tech Lab on the Privacy Sandbox Initiative. As part of the Google markets testing grants program, we are now facilitating end to end transactions with privacy sandbox APIs between multiple publishers and demand side platforms. Given our success and the increased market activity and advanced addressability solutions, we plan to grow our engineering team focused on this area as well as our Connect go to market team by several dozen people in 2024. The deprecation of 3rd party cookies is driving more buyers to lean into sell side technology partnerships. Speaker 200:08:00As a result of this and other trends, supply path optimization continues to be a major growth driver for us as we add new SPO relationships and expand existing ones. We have been investing in SPO technology and partnerships for 5 years and ended 2023 with a high watermark of over 45% of total activity coming from SPO. This is nearly double where we were just a few years ago. We see a significant greenfield opportunity ahead even beyond our initial goal of 50% of total activity. A recent study by the Association of National Advertisers identified that only 1 third of advertisers have engaged in SPO and that the average advertiser is working with 15 to 20 SSPs. Speaker 200:08:40The study also actively advocates for advertisers in addition to large agencies to engage in SPO, consolidating activity with preferred technology providers to drive increased efficiency, transparency and operational simplicity. SPO is also gaining momentum among independent agencies, unlocking additional opportunities for growth. We recently launched a partnership with Dolby Promote, an independent marketing agency managing clients like Intuit QuickBooks, Peacock, Spanx and TransUnion. Through our SPO partnership, we will provide supply chain efficiencies that enable them to solve complex challenges for their brand clients with a performance rooted approach to media. Dolby Promote's Head of Programmatic and Video, Skyler McGill, noted, through our preferred partnership with PubMatic, Delby Promote's clients will be able to more efficiently and transparently access curated CTV and video inventory to drive business outcomes and create unique competitive advantages. Speaker 200:09:37Our SP opportunity is further boosted by Activate, which is continuing to scale in both pipeline and revenue. We have an active pipeline of over 75 advertisers, agencies and campaigns. This pipeline is up by over 25% compared to the previous quarter. Earlier this month, we officially launched Activate in Japan, partnering with nearly a dozen leading CTV publishers in the region, including Asahi Television Broadcasting Corporation, Fuji Television, Nippon Television Network and Tokyo Broadcasting System Television. Premium streaming companies around the world are embracing Activate as buyers seek more efficient programmatic access to their inventory to drive measurable business outcomes. Speaker 200:10:19For example, a prominent luxury retailer in the U. S. Wanted to drive brand awareness across channels with a focus on video and CTV during the holiday shopping season. With Activate, their agency was able to reach their niche target audience across Pubmatics premium omnichannel video inventory, driving efficiencies across cost, operations and scale, ultimately achieving or exceeding each campaign KPI. As we continue to drive strong ROI for clients, I'm excited to tap into the nearly $65,000,000,000 expansion of our total addressable market that Activate represents. Speaker 200:10:53Together, SPO and Activate delivered strong profitable revenue growth in 2023. I continue to see tremendous opportunity ahead of us as buyers engage more closely and strategically with sell side technology providers like POMATIC. We plan to expand our buyer focused sales and customer success teams by 50% in 2024 in order to capture this opportunity and accelerate growth. Our growth trends with buyers also mirror the momentum we are seeing with publishers, particularly around high value CTV and online video formats. Omnichannel video revenue growth accelerated in the 4th quarter. Speaker 200:11:29We have 271 premium CTV publishers monetizing on the platform, up 27% over 2022 and we continue to have a robust pipeline of opportunity as we head into 2024. Most recently, we added Sling TV and Vivo as they seek access to the unique and differentiated demand we offer through our SPO and Activate relationships. Equally important, our strong SPO relationships are driving increased premium content to our platform, creating a network effect. For example, driven by buyer interest, we recently signed a deal with Dish Media to provide buyers with access to premium programming on Sling TV, including their broad range of live sports content. With major global sporting events like the Paris Summer Olympic Games and Copa America in the U. Speaker 200:12:15S. This year, we are excited to provide advertisers transparent, signal enhanced access to this valuable CTV inventory. We believe an interoperable approach is the only sustainable way to manage the anticipated growth in programmatic CTV advertising, particularly as newer entrants contribute to a rapid increase in CTV inventory and corresponding increases in ad dollars across the ecosystem. In 2023, we deepened engagement with CTV ad server providers like FreeWheel. And most recently, we expanded our relationship with the top 3 DSP partner by integrating their CTV demand onto our platform. Speaker 200:12:51The anticipated surge in buyer demand will bring increased ad dollars and monetization opportunities for streaming content providers on PubMatic. Our strong SVO relationships have also been instrumental in growing the size of our 1 to 1 private marketplace business, whereby publishers choose our platform to transact deals they sell directly to ad buyers. As publishers get familiar with the ease of use and benefits of our platform, they're increasingly using our software to run their 1 to 1 deals. Overall, revenue from 1 to 1 deals grew more than 50% year over year in 2023. Our strong Q4 results were built upon a foundation of sustained innovation that has been core to POMATIC's DNA since our inception. Speaker 200:13:32In no year was this more evident than in 2023. Last year, we increased software releases by 60% year over year, including delivering 2 of our biggest product launches ever with Activate and Convert. Not only did these launches mark an innovation milestone for our company, but also reinforced our position as one of the leading independent technology providers across the digital advertising ecosystem. We have spent the past few years scaling our product development to extend the value of our core SSP platform beyond ad monetization services. We offer wrapper software to large publishers with OpenWrap, solutions like Activate for buyers, post cookie targeting with Connect and Commerce Media with Convert, each adding new revenue streams in addition to the core SSP revenue we generate on ad impressions flowing through our platform. Speaker 200:14:20These solutions increase customer stickiness with more touch points and software integrations. They enrich the data flowing through our platform, making us more invaluable to our clients, and they provide us with clear points of differentiation. Collectively, these solutions have unlocked emerging revenue streams for our business and now drive meaningful revenue generation and growth on top of our core SSP revenue. We expect these solutions to contribute mid single digit percentages of revenue in 2024, more than doubling year over year. The changing dynamics of the industry and the evolving digital advertising supply chain are also ushering in a new era for the open Internet. Speaker 200:14:59Historically, performance advertising has been the domain of walled gardens. Now driven by the increase in 1st party and identity data, further fueled by the rise of commerce media as well as buyers ongoing focus on efficiency, we see a long term opportunity to drive ROI and outcomes based advertising on the open Internet. We see POMATIC as a platform best positioned to take advantage of this new opportunity. With the closed loop reporting invaluable commerce data available through convert, coupled with the efficiency and end to end control that Activate provides and the enhanced sell side data now available via Connect, we have the foundational building blocks in place to deliver performance advertising solutions that rival the walled gardens. While it's still early, we will increase our investment in product development and machine learning engineers to build new performance based solutions. Speaker 200:15:50As I predicted last quarter, Q4 was a clear inflection point up for revenue growth. Our strong performance highlights the value of our integrated platform and our customer centric approach to growth. As buyers continue to consolidate spend on our platform and take advantage of the growing solution suite we offer, how our publishers benefit from stronger monetization and greater utilization of our technology across our software products. I see tremendous opportunity ahead of us in 2024 and beyond to grow our market share and deliver shareholder value. We plan to expand our headcount by over 150 people this year to take advantage of the revenue growth opportunities ahead of us. Speaker 200:16:31These investments will pay off partially in 2024 and more fully in 2025. With our focus on efficiency and a robust business model, we anticipate expanding margins in 2024. I will now hand it over to Steve for the financial details. Speaker 300:16:45Thank you, Rajeev, and welcome, everyone. We ended the year with outstanding results across our business with 4th quarter revenue accelerating to 14% year over year and 33% sequentially versus Q3. There were several factors that drove this growth inflection point. We increased the total number of impressions monetized across all formats and channels by an impressive 29% over Q4 last year. Both omni channel video and display revenues increased year over year. Speaker 300:17:17We achieved robust growth in every geographic region. And our emerging revenue streams like Activate and OpenRAP added approximately 3 percentage points of growth in the quarter compared to Q4 2022. These results are particularly notable given the revenue headwinds in our business from Yahoo! That we commented on last quarter. Our revenue growth excluding Yahoo! Speaker 300:17:43Owned and operated inventory in the Q4 grew 19% over Q4 last year and grew 8% for the full year versus 2022. Along with our revenue acceleration, we've continued our long track record of profitability with adjusted EBITDA margin of 46%, and we generated the highest quarterly and full year free cash flow in the company's history at nearly $20,000,000 for Q4 $52,800,000 for the full year. These notable results once again highlight our robust business model, our operational excellence and our ability to grow our core business while simultaneously investing in our technology and products for revenue growth acceleration. Breaking Q4 down by format and channel, which includes Yahoo! Unless otherwise called out, omnichannel video revenue grew sequentially 31 percent from Q3 and 7% year over year. Speaker 300:18:45These results were powered by a 30% plus increase in monetized impressions, which offset year over year CPM declines. As a reminder, on a year over year basis, video CPMs declined in early 2023, but were relatively stable from August onwards. Display returned to growth for the first time this year, delivering strong year over year growth at 9%. Mobile display led the way at over 20% year over year growth. Excluding Yahoo! Speaker 300:19:15Total mobile and desktop display revenue grew 27% in the Q4. On a regional basis, every region grew double digit percentages in Q4. Looking at ad spend by category, we saw a notable recovery in the shopping vertical, which returned to year over year growth for the first time in 2023. The business, technology and personal finance categories in aggregate grew over 30%. Overall, the top 10 ad verticals combined increased by 26% over Q4 last year. Speaker 300:19:54Our excellent Q4 results were driven by ongoing innovation over many years and our focus on the operating priorities that I outlined a year ago. Collectively, we expect this rigor will accelerate revenues in 2024, while delivering an expanded strong margins and healthy cash flows. To recap, our first priority was to deepen our relationships with our publishers and buyers to be well positioned when the ad spend environment stabilizes. We did this through technology innovation on the Palmatic platform and partnership development. In 2023, we increased the number of high value video impressions we monetized on behalf of our customers by over 30%. Speaker 300:20:41With a focus on capacity optimization and targeted CapEx investments, our rate of acceleration increased as the year progressed. We increased activity from supply path optimization to over 45% of total, up from approximately 34% at the end of 2022. We maintain high rates of net spend retention from SPO buyers and very low churn underscoring the stickiness of these relationships. The net spend retention rate from SPO partners with at least 3 years of spending was 120%. We added 151 publishers in 2023, which includes premium CTV inventory and transactional commerce brands. Speaker 300:21:30And perhaps one of the most exciting things we accomplished in 2023 was the ramp up of our emerging revenue streams through new products, incremental data connections and sticky software integrations. Our second operating priority was to drive free cash flow generation. Coupled with our durable model, we were disciplined in capital allocation and ongoing investments. We delivered $52,800,000 of free cash flow, a 38% increase over 2022. Over the last 3 years, we generated over $140,000,000 of free cash flow, which has provided us the flexibility to continually invest, accelerate growth and differentiate our product offerings. Speaker 300:22:18And third, we focused on establishing a new level of efficiency in our cost structure. Our owned and operated infrastructure provides tremendous leverage in our business. On the back of CapEx investment in 20212022, Our focus in 2023 was on driving increased optimization. These efforts resulted in more than 20% additional capacity on our platform while allowing us to reduce CapEx by more than 70% versus 2022. In addition, our efforts delivered an 8% reduction in cost of revenue per impression processed. Speaker 300:22:58We also drove efficiencies across our product and engineering teams supported by generative AI and through a highly efficient productive development organization in India. We launched and scaled a mid market customer success team in India to deliver outstanding account management with greater focus and efficiency. Through the combination of improved engineering productivity and cost efficiency efforts, we have improved our cost base by over 20,000,000 dollars Full year GAAP operating expenses were 165,700,000 dollars a 23% increase over 2022, reflecting investments across the business. Included in this total is $5,700,000 of bad debt expense related to the bankruptcy of 1 of our buyers in Q2. Extending our long track record of standout financial performance, 2023 marked our 8th straight year of GAAP net income and 11th straight year of positive adjusted EBITDA. Speaker 300:24:05Full year GAAP net income was $8,900,000 or $0.16 per diluted share. Non GAAP net income, which adjusts for unrealized loss on equity investments, stock based compensation expense and related adjustments for income taxes was $32,000,000 or $0.57 per diluted share. We ended 2023 with $175,300,000 in cash and marketable securities and 0 debt. During the year, we used our significant free cash flow for growth investments and we repurchased shares as planned. As of December 31st, we had repurchased 4,000,000 shares of our Class A common stock for $59,000,000 in cash and we reduced our fully diluted weighted average shares outstanding. Speaker 300:24:54We had approximately $16,000,000 remaining from our prior authorization at the end of the year. Consistent with our long term capital allocation strategy, supported by our healthy balance sheet and strong cash generation, we plan to continue our capital allocation strategy of 1st investing for growth and second returning capital to shareholders. Accordingly, the Board of Directors has authorized the repurchase of up to an additional $100,000,000 of the company's Class A common stock through the end of 2025 on top of the remaining funds from our prior authorization. Turning to 2024, we are seeing a more constructive ad spend environment and are planning for accelerated year over year revenue growth and incremental margin expansion. This means investing in areas where we see the highest returns while driving further efficiencies across the business. Speaker 300:25:56Key incremental investment areas include innovation and go to market resource. We plan to add more engineers to drive our post cookie solutions and develop new revenue opportunities such as performance advertising. We plan to increase our buyer focused sales and customer success team by 50% to accelerate growth in SPO and ACTIVATE. And we plan to hire more salespeople to focus on growing our emerging revenue streams coming from our enterprise grade OpenRAP software, post cookie targeting with Connect and Commerce. Overall, we expect to add more than 150 net new team members this year. Speaker 300:26:40In addition, we expect to increase CapEx by $7,000,000 over 2023 levels to support the growth of our new products. And finally, we anticipate we will achieve further productivity gains through the use of AI and continued cost efficiencies by focusing on capacity and infrastructure optimization. Based on our successful long term track record of maximizing the return of our growth investments, we are confident that our 2024 operating plan will help us accelerate our revenue growth to over 10% this year, which includes the Yahoo! Headwind referenced earlier. Excluding Yahoo! Speaker 300:27:17This growth translates to over 12% year over year growth. At the same time, we anticipate expanding our adjusted EBITDA margin and generating positive cash from operations in line with 2023. Turning to Q1. With a tailwind from our strong finish to the year, we are starting 2024 on solid footing. January trends were excellent with double digit percentage increase in monetized impressions on a year over year basis. Speaker 300:27:47CPMs were in line with seasonal expectations and emerging revenue streams continue to grow. Notably, omni channel video revenues were up double digit percentages year over year and display revenues also increased year over year. Based on these recent trends, we anticipate Q1 2024 revenue to be in the range of $61,000,000 to $63,000,000 or 12% year over year growth at the midpoint and 17% growth excluding Yahoo. In terms of cost, GAAP cost of revenue in Q1 is expected to be approximately $26,000,000 over the coming quarters as a function of continued proactive steps on productivity and cost saving measures, we anticipate keeping sequential quarter over quarter cost increases in the low single digit percentages. We expect Q1 GAAP OpEx to increase approximately $5,000,000 versus Q4. Speaker 300:28:46This increase absorbs the Q4 run rate of expense, global annual cost of living adjustments that are effective in Q1 plus an additional cost related to our January global sales conference. With our focused investments for growth, we anticipate that OpEx will increase sequentially in the low single digit percentages Q2 onwards. Given our revenue guidance and our cost structure, which is largely fixed in the near term by design, we expect our Q1 adjusted EBITDA to be between $10,000,000 $12,000,000 or approximately 18% margin at the midpoint. As a reminder, historically, our Q1 is impacted by prior year investments that carry forward during a period of low seasonal ad spend. We expect profitability to improve as the year progresses driven by our continued focus on productivity improvements, cost efficiencies and typical seasonal increases in ad spend. Speaker 300:29:43For the full year, we expect adjusted EBITDA margin to be approximately 30%. We expect CapEx to be between $16,000,000 to $18,000,000 for the full year. Over many years, we have developed a successful playbook to drive sustained innovation and operational excellence. This gives us the confidence to incrementally invest for future growth while continuing to deliver robust profitability and cash flow. As one of the largest independent sell side technology providers, I'm very excited about prospects in 2024 and the trajectory we are on for sustained double digit growth this year and beyond. Speaker 300:30:27With that, I'll turn the call over to Stacy for questions. Speaker 100:30:31Thank you, Steve. As a reminder, you can ask a question by raising your hand located on the dashboard. If you're on your phone, please press star 9. Our first question comes from Shweta Kuchariah at Evercore. Please go ahead, Shweta. Speaker 400:30:50Thanks, Stacy. Let me try 2, please. So, first one, Rajiv, on cookie deprecation. I guess the question is, what is your sense in terms of the readiness of publishers and advertisers if cookies were to go away in Q3 and more so by Q4? Do you think that they are ready to transition on both sides, the large advertisers as well as publishers? Speaker 400:31:15And then also on cookie, so this is part of question 1. Also on cookie, you talked about the 80% adoption of alternative IDs. I guess the question there is how does it work once cookies do go away in terms of your revenue exposure that has been reliant on cookies? Is it simply that cookies go away, publishers have alternative IDs, so ROI goes up and potentially CPMs could go up. And those publishers that don't have alternative IDs will likely get lower CPMs. Speaker 400:31:50Could you help us think through how it would impact you? And then the second question for Steve is, Steve, could you please help us with the cadence of the revenue acceleration through the year as all these new incremental products will start playing a role? It sounds like mid single digit percentage in terms of full year contribution is how you characterized it, but how should we think about it through the year? Thanks a lot. Yeah. Speaker 200:32:16But why don't I start thinking, Shweta, on the cookie piece, and I'll turn it over to Steve. So I would say there's a mixed level of readiness across the ecosystem. We have been working for 4 or 5 years now on our Connect product. So we feel quite good about how we're positioned. Some publishers are ahead of the curve, some publishers behind the curve. Speaker 200:32:34And I would say the same is true of advertisers and agencies. You saw what we announced with GroupM and Resolve around model of cohorts today. So that's a great example of getting ahead of the curve. I emphasize that we are not dependent on how privacy sandbox evolves or what Google does. So we have been scaling non cookie environments such as CTV, commerce media, mobile app. Speaker 200:32:59You know, all of these areas are growing as a percentage of revenue, as well as just the raw volume of impressions. And so we have plenty of impression opportunities to meet advertiser needs. And as you commented, 80% impressions on our platform now have alternative signals available to the 3rd party cookie. I think there will be a transition period when that cookie deprecation, you know, timeline happens. It's impossible, you know, to be fully, for everybody in the ecosystem to be fully transitioned away from the cookie while the cookie is still around. Speaker 200:33:32But we've been building signal. That percentage has been growing. It's going to continue to grow. So we feel really good about all the things we're doing around alternative IDs, contextual advertising, publisher first party data and modeled cohorts. And then stepping back, what I see is that privacy sandbox is introducing significant complexity into the ecosystem. Speaker 200:33:52It's an entirely new parallel option environment. And there's a collection of APIs that have to be implemented, and those APIs themselves are evolving rapidly. So what that means is that it will take substantial and sustained engineering investment in order to compete effectively. And we're in a position to make that investment. It's factored into our 2024 plan. Speaker 200:34:12I suspect there are many companies in the ecosystem, in the ad tech ecosystem that will not be in a position to make that investment. So this may very well be a share gain opportunity for us. Let me turn over to you, Steve, on the revenue piece. Speaker 300:34:26Great. Thanks, Sweta, for the question. So a couple of things just to highlight. Number 1, our guidance at the midpoint is about 12% year over year growth. So clearly a step up from where we were historically in the first half of twenty twenty three. Speaker 300:34:43So overall, we feel that the start of the year is very robust and positive. And then to your question and comment, we have additive over time in the emerging revenue streams. So I expect that through the course of the year, we'll continue to build on the momentum we've established in the Q1. It'll probably match a more seasonal expectation in terms of historical averages. So expected growth in Q2 versus Q1 and then strong Q4, which will be supplemented by our emerging revenue streams. Speaker 300:35:20The other comment to note on emerging revenues is that it's really positive on a number of fronts for us, not the least of which is net new in many cases, but it's SaaS like revenue and more stable and less prone to, let's say, the ups and downs of the overall ad spend environment. So we see a lot of stability in those revenue streams and build up over time. And our current expectation is that by the end of the year, we will have doubled the portion of our revenue emerging revenue streams through the course of this ramp up and investment in these areas. Speaker 100:36:00Thanks, Rajeev. Thanks, Steve. Our next question comes from Matt Swanson, RBC. Please go ahead, Matt. Speaker 500:36:09Yes. Thanks, Stacy. Congratulations on the quarter, guys. I think I want to stay maybe on the SPO side. And like you mentioned, you're dangerously close to hitting those long term targets of 50%. Speaker 500:36:22And I guess the 2 parter on that would be, 1, do you have a new number that sticks out in your head is like what the long term contribution from SPO is? And then also just kind of thinking this journey we've been on, how the value proposition of SPO has changed from today versus when it started? Speaker 200:36:41Sure. Yeah. Thank you, Matt. So with respect to SPO, as you mentioned, right, we are very close to the targets that we had set out earlier. When I think about it, I think long term, maybe 3 quarters of our business could be SPO based. Speaker 200:36:55So let's, you know, pencil that in as kind of the next frontier, the next watermark for us to hit. I think there's still a tremendous amount of opportunity. As I mentioned in the prepared remarks, we are expanding the sales and customer success teams here by 50% in order to go after it. We highlighted Wpromote more of an independent agency. We see a lot of activity on the advertiser front. Speaker 200:37:20So in terms of, you know, how the value proposition has evolving, it certainly has been evolving. And I think the kind of economic cycle that maybe we're still in or maybe we're most of the way through, you know, has also changed where the value proposition is headed for SPO. So it used to be about simplifying operations in order to focus on high quality inventory from a media buyer's perspective. And I think as we've gotten deeper into these SPO conversations and relationships, we found a whole set of different opportunities for us to focus on. So, helping make the buyer more efficient, is certainly one that buyers are very focused on these days. Speaker 200:38:02You know, that ANA study where buyers are still working with 15 to 20 SSPs. Obviously, that's a metric that's far too high and is not going to be sustained. Buyers are looking for help with the privacy and regulatory environment. So, there's more and more privacy regulations around the world, and they need to be compliant in all places where they do business. There's 20 some U. Speaker 200:38:25S. State regulations in place now or coming in place. Post cookie targeting is another area. So the exactly the point that we made with GroupM and Resolve. So I think it's turning into a much more multifaceted data workflow efficiency, compliance, opportunity, which creates, you know, tremendous, I think, innovation opportunity for us and tremendous growth opportunity for us. Speaker 500:38:54And then if I could ask one more. Steve, you mentioned some of this being more SaaS like revenue. One of the interesting parts of DSPO is it makes your spend like almost more DSP like, right, where it's about ad budgets and less CPM sensitive. So can you just talk about like as like let's say we got to 75% SPO activity, what that does for your visibility in terms of being able to forecast revenue? Speaker 300:39:19Well, I absolutely think it grows. And to Rajeev's point, I mean, we've gone on this journey with buyers and we learn more and more every day and deepen the relationships. I shared the stickiness measure and the incremental spend that we see from our SPO relationships. So all of that contributes to what I'll call the stability of our revenues over time. But the aspect with respect to emerging revenues is that you know, it's something that is built on, you know, our innovation capabilities and it's on top of our platform. Speaker 300:39:54And so we are finding significant pockets of opportunity, these SaaS business models, you know, whether it be database through our Connect, OpenRAP software, enterprise grade software, we are able to charge for that. And of course, the significant launch of Activate, which adds a net new revenue stream in terms of buyer fees. So all of these help to add incremental revenues, but also a level of stability. And as that grows over time, I would expect the degree of revenue predictability will grow. Speaker 100:40:34Thank you, Steve. Our next question comes from James Heaney at Jefferies. Please go ahead, James. Speaker 600:40:42Great. Thanks for the question. Can you talk a little bit more just about your CTV growth strategy and how do you feel about the inventory that you currently have access today? And and do you see a world in which you could access to the premium CTV inventory that we're seeing, entering the market? Thank you. Speaker 200:40:58Yeah. Sure, James. Thank you. So, yeah, when we think about, CTV inventory, I feel really good about how well positioned we are. Year over year, CTV publisher count grew from 214q4 of 22 to 271 in Q4 of 2023. Speaker 200:41:15So that's significant count or significant growth in terms of the number of publishers. And what I see happening is that there's a lot of momentum, particularly with the biggest names, the biggest streamers or broadcasters, and it's being driven by a network effect with buyers and supply path optimization, as well as the strength of our technology platform. So buyers are increasingly consolidating their spend on our platform. Our Activate product extends that even further. And Dish and Sling are a good example of that, where then they want access to those dollars, of course. Speaker 200:41:49And so the as we ramp these SPO relationships and get deeper with buyers, then that brings more publishers to our platform. And then the other, I think, really nice expansion opportunity is that as CTV publishers use our platform and see the benefits of it, they are moving more of their, you know, 1 to 1 private marketplace or programmatic guaranteed deals to our platform. So these are this is a deal that a publisher would sell to a single advertiser, and they're moving those deals to our platform. We grew that segment by 50% year over year last year. And we have, I think, a low share of the market in that arena, that one to 1 deals space. Speaker 200:42:27And so I think there's a lot of runway ahead of us. And the last comment I'll just make is that the vast majority of CTV monetization that we have on our platform today is in the U. S, but we see tremendous opportunity in a variety of different parts around the world. Europe is growing quickly. In APAC, we highlighted earlier, the Activate publisher reaction in Japan. Speaker 200:42:51So I think there's a variety of different markets where we're going to continue to grow CTV at a rapid rate. Speaker 600:42:58Great. And then Steve, maybe just one quick follow-up on the guide for 2024. Last year, you you weren't able to provide guidance, but this year, it looks like you have, you know, a little bit more visibility. Is that Is that sort of what's giving you the conviction to guide to the full year? Like just what's kind of giving you that increased visibility? Speaker 300:43:19There's actually a number of factors. 1st and foremost is we do see a more constructive ad environment out there. So that's number 1. Number 2 is many of the things that we've been working on for a number of years around innovation really started to take hold in the back half of 2023. You saw the outstanding results in the Q4. Speaker 300:43:40If you exclude the Yahoo owned and operated inventory, you know, our business grew 19% in the Q4. And so when we look ahead at the opportunities, we're going to build on that momentum. We have been investing behind Omni channel video, which you've called out some of the factors there. We are seeing terrific, you know, momentum from SPO relationships, that will continue to grow as proportion of our total business. So that adds a tailwind to us. Speaker 300:44:11And then, of course, we continue to, you know, have progress with our new emerging revenue side to activate, connect, Open Graph. So all told, you know, when we look at 24, we're seeing a minimum growth expectation of 10 plus percent. And if you strip out the Yahoo! Component, that's 12 over 12%. So we're feeling really good about where we are right now. Speaker 300:44:36Obviously, we'll update the investor group as time goes on. But we have really good start to the year and many things that have already gained traction and, you know, are building. Speaker 100:44:53Our next question comes from Justin Patterson at KeyBanc. Please go ahead, Justin. Speaker 600:44:59Great. Thank you very much and good afternoon. To build on that last question, I wanted to dive into the head count investments some more within there. It does sound like you have some tailwinds, so leaning into that. But how should we think about just the returns from this headcount investment? Speaker 600:45:17And if say that the tailwind gets a bit stronger over the course of this year, Will you look to invest a little bit more aggressively than what's currently in plan or drop more through to the bottom line? Thank you. Speaker 300:45:31Sure. I'll take the first part and then Rajiv, you could add some comments in terms of our strategy. But, you know, just to set the stage, Justin, and you know, we obviously have proven that we are a very profitable business in the Q4, a 46% adjusted EBITDA margin. So we have a great business model. And when we take a look at the momentum that we've been building up the traction in SPO and our new areas of growth. Speaker 300:46:00We absolutely feel this is the right time to invest more significantly. And so it's around, of course, innovation and around sales. And so we think that, with that combined investment profile, we're going to growth investments, pay off. And so, to make growth investments pay off. And so if we see, there is further opportunities, there's no reason why we wouldn't potentially increase our rate of investment. Speaker 300:46:35But what's makes our business particularly strong, robust and unique is our ability to still deliver robust margins. Right now, we're aiming to be about the 30% EBITDA margin even with the incremental investment that we've called out. And so we see this as focus on growth while also delivering very strong bottom line results. Speaker 200:47:01Yes. Hey, Justin, I'll just add, our priorities are clearly shifting. The last 18 months or so, it's been a fairly weak ad spend environment, as you know. And so then our priorities were really focused on covering the large customer base, covering the largest customers in our customer base, innovating for where the growth opportunity is heading to. And, you know, we've talked a lot about those products. Speaker 200:47:21And then third, just making our business more efficient. And I think we did a really strong job in all of those areas. And so now as we get into a more constructive environment, we're really focused on accelerating revenue growth, right. And Steve called out some of the metrics. And I think you're seeing that acceleration happen pretty quickly through Q4 and Q1 and onwards. Speaker 200:47:42So, we will be very, I would say, opportunistic around where we see growth opportunities and just continuing to invest behind them. Think we're pretty comfortable with the profitability in the business model, as Steve highlighted, strong cash generation as well. And so we're going to put the bias towards accelerating revenue growth. Speaker 100:48:08Thanks, Rajeev. Our next question comes from Matt Condon at JMP. Please go ahead, Matt. Speaker 700:48:15Thanks for taking my question. Just with the shutdown of Vice and Buzzfeed selling complex, can you just opine on the health of the digital publishers we enter 2024? Is this a structural change or is this just a macro cycle? And then maybe a second one, can you just talk about advertiser adoption of ID Hub and just how you're expecting that to trend throughout 2024? Thank you. Speaker 200:48:38Yes, sure. Thank you, Matt, for the question. So, yes, let's start with the first one in terms of a couple of companies you cited and help with pubs. So, as we talked about over the last year and a half, and I just mentioned in the prior question and answer, you know, the growth opportunities always shift in this industry through an economic cycle. And we've been through cycles before, so we know that to be the case. Speaker 200:49:02And so the opportunities really are shifting towards areas like CTV, Commerce Media, and publishers where they have, you know, certain types of data assets. And I think what we see happening is, you know, in the case of those publishers and other digital publishers, you know, they may not be keeping up with where those growth opportunities lie, and therefore, you know, suffering as a result. Now we've seen this coming. And so, over the last several years, we've been really focused on innovating our products in these areas, growing the share of our business. You know, that's coming from CTV and omnichannel video. Speaker 200:49:39That's coming from Commerce Media. And, you know, that has, you know, this kind of alternative signal to the key attached to it, so that we can be market share gainers in this process. So I think that's kind of what you see at play is that even as ad spend now starts to accelerate, there's going to be pockets, there's going to be winners and losers. And what you see with our growth numbers is that we're well positioned with where the high growth opportunities are. Now turning to your second question around Identity Hub. Speaker 200:50:11So just a quick reminder of what Identity Hub does is, it is software that publishers can deploy that allows them to easily convert, data that they have on a user into a variety of different alternative IDs. So if a publisher has an email address, for instance, on a user and they have consent, then they can convert that into a UID 2, into a LiveRamp ID, into, I think we're now at 29 different IDs. So we have several 100 publishers that have Identity Hub deployed, and we plan to add, you know, significantly, probably in the triple digits of additional customers this year. And we expect that we may be able to exceed those numbers as we get closer to the cookie deprecation timeline. But again, it's a key part of growing the signal that we have in order to generate higher CPMs, 16% higher on average when we have IDs present. Speaker 100:51:12And our next question comes from Andrew Merrick at Raymond James. Please go ahead, Andrew. Speaker 800:51:17Hi, guys. Thanks for taking my questions. I was wondering if you could give maybe a little bit more color on the generative AI impact on engineering productivity. Is that adoption of external products or anything generated internally because I know you guys like to own and operate your own infrastructure. And you've talked about the 60% increase in software releases in 2023. Speaker 800:51:38How impactful can these tools be for release velocity in in 24? Speaker 200:51:42Yeah. Great. Thanks, Andrew. So, you know, there's, of course, there's multiple branches of of AI. For example, machine learning and, you know, obviously, the much newer generative AI. Speaker 200:51:51So just for a little bit of context, you know, we have long standing use in expertise in machine learning. We use that quite extensively for programmatic transactions that happen in milliseconds, things like price floors, traffic efficiency, various auction management algorithms. Now with respect to generative AI, we pushed hard in 2023 to test and scale a number of new approaches to software development, to testing and release automation using Gen AI tools. And if you can name a tool, we've probably tested it. So we're using a combination, of variety of third party tools. Speaker 200:52:25We've also built some things, in house ourselves. We've seen good results and, you know, have been scaling those things up. And that's, you know, what's leading us to anticipate 15% to 20% increase in engineering productivity in 2024. And maybe I can give, you know, 2 concrete examples of how we're putting Gen AI to work. So the first is that, by automating a lot of the software testing process, we've been able to increase the ratio of engineers to testing personnel. Speaker 200:52:55So by using Gen AI tools, we're able to automate a lot of the manual testing that used to happen. And so that's a structural gain now where for, you know, dollars 1,000,000 of engineering investment, we can have more engineers that are writing, you know, new features and new capabilities. And so that's, you know, part of that productivity game. And then, you know, sticking on that testing theme, by automating a lot of that testing, we're able to release software faster by, you know, really automating the entire pipeline from development to testing to deployment. So we used to have an approach, you know, a couple of years ago where, you know, we might ship every ship software every couple of weeks and had to go through these, you know, testing cycles and make sure that that everything worked properly. Speaker 200:53:37Now individual engineering teams within PubMatic, they can release software at will, because we've been able to automate. So an engineer can write code, one day and, within 24 hours, that code can be released into production. And so that has a tremendous, I think, acceleration of our development and iteration cycles, which should lead to not only faster productivity, but also I would expect accelerated revenue growth. Speaker 800:54:04And you preempted my follow-up question on examples, so I'm all set. Thank you. Speaker 200:54:08Great. Thanks, Andrew. Speaker 100:54:11Our next question comes from Jason Helfstein at Oppenheimer. Please go ahead, Jason. Speaker 900:54:21Thanks. A few questions kind of maybe interconnected. So just on alternative IDs, when publishers choose, let's say, to use like a UID or Ramp ID, is there any additional cost to you to help them support those IDs? Or just broadly, is there a cost that has to be borne by the ecosystem that, you know, you have to share a piece of? That that's question 1, and then I've got a follow-up. Speaker 200:54:47Sure. Yeah. So, Jason, generally, the cost is borne by the advertiser that's using that ID. So publishers don't bear a cost to, let's say, convert an email address into a UID 2 or into a LiveRamp ID. We do not, you know, bear licensing costs. Speaker 200:55:05We do have some infrastructure costs. So that's part of the CapEx budget that Steve commented on earlier. But that's more than offset by the fact that we generate higher CPMs with those impressions. And, you know, given our usage model, our revenue share, then we're able to make even more net revenue on those impressions. So the economics for us and for the publisher are very clear and very positive. Speaker 200:55:31And then obviously, each advertiser is doing their own math in terms of how much of those IDs they want to use. Speaker 900:55:36Got it. Thank you. And then follow-up. I mean, I guess, kind of starting with the guidance for free cash flow being flat year over year despite healthy revenue growth. And then there are a number of like puts and takes in 2023 on kind of like one time items in both revenue and costs. Speaker 900:55:54I mean, just how are you thinking about maybe margin expansion going forward? Just it seems like as the business gets bigger, it does require more capital and you're obviously hiring more people because the business is getting more complicated basically. But just are you thinking about kind of maybe margins over margin expansion over the next few years or really kind of like close to like peak margins? Speaker 300:56:18Sure. Thanks, Jason, for the question. So we think that there is absolutely a lot of opportunity over the long run to expand margin. I mean, we're taking a very specific concrete opportunity right now, given where we see momentum and the digital ad environment to invest for growth. And so we're being very thoughtful about it in terms of where we're putting the people, the team, technology, sales and that will have returns over the next couple of years. Speaker 300:56:52But if you step back and just think about the company that we built over many years, we actually have many structural drivers that really support our long term margin expansion. First and foremost, of course, we have our own and operated infrastructure. And so you saw the power of what we could do in 2023, We were able to optimize that infrastructure and grow our capacity by 20% while reducing our capex by 70%. So very powerful leverage point that we decide when we take advantage of it and how we then deploy those returns. Number 2, as a reminder, we are investing in the fastest growing most profitable component segments of the digital ad environment, omni channel video, mobile, the emerging revenue streams. Speaker 300:57:43And so these products have very high marginal profitability. So we anticipate that will be a tailwind on margin. And then, of course, we talked about the structural aspects of generative AI and the long term asset that we built in India with our development organization. That is something that is going to sustain, strong economics for years to come. And then when you think about a strategic point of view, what we've done as a business, being a pioneer in supply path optimization, we now have over 45% of all of our activity is related to SPO activity relationships and we expect that to grow. Speaker 300:58:28Why is that important? Is that we've already incurred the costs to process those impressions. So when we move more people, more buyers onto our platform as a result of SPO, the incremental costs are de minimis. So that's sort of like structurally feel really good about where we're going in the long run. And then of course, all the factors of as a company, our long term focus is on being operational excellence. Speaker 300:58:5811 straight years of adjusted EBITDA profitability speaks to sort of the structural advantages we have and just the mindset that we operate with. Speaker 900:59:09Thank you. Speaker 100:59:12And our last question comes from Max Michalis at Lake Street. Please go ahead, Max. Speaker 300:59:17Hey, guys. It's good to see Speaker 1000:59:18the top 10 verticals grow 26% in the quarter. I was wondering if you could if you wanted highlight any other verticals? I know you touched on business and shopping, maybe if there's any other verticals that performed well and then how some of those verticals have trended into Q1, we're about 2 months into the quarter. Speaker 300:59:35Sure. So the great news is that we saw double digit growth across every top 10 vertical in the Q4. So we have not seen that, you know, throughout 23 And I called out in my prepared comments that shopping was a real standout because it went from down year over year in the prior quarters to positive. And of course, I commented specifically on a couple of the verticals that grew over 30%. But we had across the board, travel, food and drink, automotive, health and fitness. Speaker 301:00:06These are all double digit growers. So very strong across the board and it really speaks to the strength of our platform as an omni channel platform with a very diverse publisher base and diverse buying ecosystem. Turning to the Q1, we've seen many of those same trends continue in the Q1. Obviously, we're still in the middle of it, but very pleased to see continued momentum in shopping and the other verticals like business technology also continue to grow nicely. Speaker 1001:00:41All right. And then last one for me. I saw the SPO retention rate was 120%. What should we think of as a normalized range for that Speaker 301:00:49metric? I don't see why that couldn't be a normalized metric over time based upon a couple of things. Number 1, these are steep relationships and so we're solving problems, creating opportunities for our SPO partners. And so, they're moving more and more spend. They're looking for more opportunities across their own ecosystems of how they can take advantage of our platform and our capabilities. Speaker 301:01:14So, we believe that sort of adds a natural tailwind. The other facet is just always adding new opportunities like Activate Commerce Media. So, I think that the takeaway is 120% is a reflection of sort of the strength of our platform, the relationships, and I think is a good indicator of what the future potentially presents. Speaker 1001:01:42All right. Thanks, guys. Nice quarter. Speaker 201:01:44Thank you, Max. Speaker 101:01:47Great. Thank you. There are no further questions in the queue, so I'm going to turn it back over to Rajeev for closing remarks now. Speaker 201:01:53Thank you, Stacy, and thank you all for joining us today. Q4 was an inflection point where we saw prior strategic investments fuel accelerated revenue growth, strong margins and cash generation. In addition, we executed well against our top operating priorities for the year, which drove significant cost savings and efficiencies, all of which set us up well for 2024. We expect to grow our business by 10% at minimum in 2024, which is more than double our growth rate in 2023, while also expanding margins. At the same time, we'll continue to invest in key areas and unlock emerging revenue streams. Speaker 201:02:27This is an exciting time in ad tech and we're very well positioned to grow our market share as the industry evolves. We look forward to seeing many of you over the next month or 2. As a reminder, we will be at the JMP conference on Monday, March 4th and the KeyBanc conference on Tuesday, March 5th.Read morePowered by