NYSE:DKL Delek Logistics Partners Q4 2023 Earnings Report $38.60 +0.37 (+0.97%) Closing price 04/25/2025 03:59 PM EasternExtended Trading$38.68 +0.08 (+0.21%) As of 04/25/2025 07:41 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. Earnings HistoryForecast Delek Logistics Partners EPS ResultsActual EPS$0.85Consensus EPS $0.85Beat/MissMet ExpectationsOne Year Ago EPSN/ADelek Logistics Partners Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$254.15 millionExpected Revenue$272.51 millionBeat/MissMissed by -$18.36 millionYoY Revenue GrowthN/ADelek Logistics Partners Announcement DetailsQuarterQ4 2023Date2/27/2024TimeN/AConference Call DateTuesday, February 27, 2024Conference Call Time12:30PM ETUpcoming EarningsDelek Logistics Partners' Q1 2025 earnings is scheduled for Wednesday, May 7, 2025, with a conference call scheduled at 12:30 PM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Q1 2025 Earnings ReportConference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptPress Release (8-K)Annual Report (10-K)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfilePowered by Delek Logistics Partners Q4 2023 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrFebruary 27, 2024 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 7 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:01Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Delek Logistics Partners 4th Quarter 2023 Conference Call. At this time, all lines are in a listen only mode. Following the presentation, we will conduct a question and answer session. This call is being recorded on Tuesday, February 27, 2024. I would now like to turn the conference over to Rosie Zulek, VP of Investor Relations. Operator00:00:31Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:33Good day, and welcome to the Delek Logistics Partners 4th quarter earnings conference call. Participants on today's call will include Avigail Thoric, President Joseph Israel, EVP, Operations Ruben Spiegel, EVP and Chief Financial Officer and Odeli Sakhazi, SVP, Delek Logistics. As a reminder, this conference call will contain forward looking statements as defined under the federal securities laws, including without limitation, statements regarding guidance and future business outlook. These statements involve risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ from our forecasts. For more information, please refer to the risk factors discussed in the partnership's most recently filed annual report on Form 10 ks and quarterly report on Form 10 Q filed with the SEC, along with the press release associated with this call. Speaker 100:01:32The partnership assumes no obligation to update any forward looking statements or information, which speak as of their respective dates. I'll now turn the call over to Abigail for opening remarks. Speaker 200:01:45Thank you, Rosy. Delek Logistics partner finished 2023 strong. We delivered another record quarter and achieved a record year. DKL exceed $100,000,000 in adjusted EBITDA this quarter. We saw a substantial growth from our new connection in our Midland Gathering operations further validating our strong position in the Permian Basin. Speaker 200:02:13I'm very proud of our employees who are dedicated to making Delek Logistics succeed. It is their dedication to safe and reliable operations that makes our results possible. The team has gone without a lost time injury 4 years in a row and counting. We're also focused on growing third party revenues, allocating capital in a disciplined manner, and exploring natural gas opportunities in the Delaware Basin where we see significant growth. In January, the Board approved the 44th consecutive increase in the quarterly distribution to 1.55 dollars per unit. Speaker 200:03:00Delek Logistics has shown a strong track record of delivering value to unit holders. We feel confident in our ability to maintain competitive distribution to our investors. Speaker 300:03:13I will now hand it over to Ruben. Thank you, Abigail. The Q4 of 2023 adjusted EBITDA was $100,900,000 compared with $92,500,000 in the same period of 2022. The 4th quarter EBITDA was $86,100,000 which included a $14,800,000 goodwill impairment related to some of our Delaware gathering and processing assets. The impairment was primarily driven by a significant increase in interest rates. Speaker 300:03:44Our long term outlook of the Delaware Gathering system remains unchanged. Distributable cash flow was $65,000,000 and the DCF coverage ratio was 1.4. For the Gathering and Processing segment, adjusted EBITDA for the quarter was $53,300,000 compared with $48,100,000 in the Q4 of 'twenty two. The increase was primarily due to higher throughput from Delek Logistics' Permian Basin assets. Wholesale marketing and terminalling adjusted EBITDA in the Q4 of 2023 was $28,400,000 compared with 23 $300,000 in prior year. Speaker 300:04:23The increase was primarily from higher terminalling utilization. Storage and transportation adjusted EBITDA in the quarter was $17,500,000 compared to $16,100,000 in the Q4 of 2022. The increase was mainly driven by higher storage and transportation rates. And lastly, the investment in pipeline joint venture segment contributed $8,500,000 this quarter compared with $9,000,000 in the Q4 of 2022. Moving on to capital expenditures. Speaker 300:04:54The capital program for 2023 was $74,000,000 This includes $7,000,000 of proceeds from producers to partially fund growth projects. Most of the spend throughout the year was for growth projects, namely advancing new connections in the Midland and Delaware gathering systems. For 2024, Delek Logistics Partner expects the capital program to be about 70,000,000 dollars This includes approximately $20,000,000 of sustaining and regulatory capital and $50,000,000 of growth capital. We will continue to advance new connection in our gathering system for the volume growth at the partnership. With that, we can open the call for questions. Operator00:05:37Thank Your first question comes from Doug Arwin from Citi. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:06:02Hi, thanks for the question. I just want to start with the Delaware gathering and processing assets. Understanding the long term outlook is still intact, can you maybe just talk about how the 3 Bear assets are trending today just versus the initial expectations when you acquired them? I think the initial target for these assets when they were acquired was $100,000,000 of annual EBITDA. Is that still a good number to work with here near term? Speaker 200:06:29Hey, Doug. It's Avigail. Good morning. Thank you for joining our call. Generally speaking, the 3 Bear now DDG is meeting our expectation. Speaker 200:06:41We also being over there in that area give us insight for more opportunities we see in the region. And as you probably picked up on my prepared remark, there is additional opportunity mainly on the natural gas. So that was a very good position to get into and we are happy around it. Speaker 400:07:10Okay. Got it. Thanks. And then just second question just on the broader 'twenty four outlook. You gave last quarter you talked about exiting 'twenty three at $100,000,000 quarterly EBITDA run rate, which you achieved this quarter. Speaker 400:07:24Are there any similar targets you can point to moving forward, whether that's on EBITDA, volume growth or some other metric just to kind of help frame the growth outlook for 2024? Yes. So Speaker 200:07:37we are focusing to have a constant improvement and we are committed to keep improving our business. So we are very optimistic about what we see in the business on the opportunity. We have seen a nice significant CapEx plan into the business that will enhance additional opportunities. But we are very optimistic and we see consistent and constant improvement in the business. So that's going to be what we Speaker 500:08:08can provide in these 10 seconds. Speaker 400:08:12Got it. I'll leave it there. Thank you. Speaker 500:08:16Thank you for joining us today. Speaker 200:08:31There are no further questions at Operator00:08:33this time. I will turn we do have one more question, I apologize, from Paul Longos from Lord Abbott. Please go ahead. Speaker 600:08:42Yes. Hi. I was curious, it looked like the Midland volumes were down a little bit sequentially and some of the gas and the water and the Delaware volumes were down a little bit sequentially. Forgive me if I missed that. What was why is that? Speaker 600:08:59And should we expect that trend to continue? Speaker 200:09:03Yes. So thank you, Paul, for joining us today. The gathering, the downward volume are pretty much in line quarter over quarter. What we see in the Permian Basin is a touch lower and you can expect it after producer adding new production. You probably know that as good as anyone that the new production in the beginning goes to a very high and then stabilize over time. Speaker 200:09:28So that's what we see. As you probably picked up, we have a significant capital budget that will enhance additional volume and connection in the DPG, the Midland area, and we'll see volume picked up along the year. Oderiv, do you want to add anything to that? Speaker 400:09:47Yes, sure. Speaker 500:09:48And this is Adelio. Hi, Paul. Good morning. I'll just give a little bit more coloring from earlier on the Valor side as Abhijal mentioned. In Q4, we expedite some of our maintenance work that Speaker 200:10:01we plan to do in Q1 and decided to do Speaker 500:10:04it in Q4. That actually helped us to continue improving volumes. So this is why you see gas slightly lower compared to between Q4 and Q3 of this year. But if Speaker 200:10:14you look both in DPG and also in DDG Speaker 500:10:16in both sides, if you compare it year over year, we obviously continue to improve our associate performance. So Q4 primarily, we had that work that was done Speaker 200:10:25that we expedited. It was planned to Speaker 500:10:26work on the most even the plan. But as we're looking right now in Q1, those numbers are already improving compared both to Q3 and also Q4. Speaker 600:10:36And that improvement is for both Midland and Delaware? Speaker 500:10:41Primarily the Delaware and Midland, as Abhijal mentioned, we do see the natural decline in the business compared to the peak we've seen or compared to the volume we've seen in Q3. With that said, we do have a capital program as Abhijal mentioned also Ruben mentioned in his remarks of $50,000,000 on connection. So we should start to see an increase primarily in the second half of the year as we implement those projects. Speaker 600:11:05Okay, great. And then I noticed corporate expenses were down a little bit sequentially. Could you talk about that a little bit? Speaker 200:11:15It's a we are doing across the companies to streamline expenses. We had a big initiative on the parent company to reduce expenses. We call it the 0 based budget with a target of $100,000,000 some of that went all the way to DKL. So you see to our partnership, so you see the fruits of that. So we didn't put it on the billboard here, but we were able to enjoy that. Speaker 600:11:45Okay, great. So we should expect expenses to kind of stabilize or maybe even continue to improve going forward? Speaker 200:11:54Yes, I don't think we are giving guidance, but there is no reason that we go back. Speaker 600:12:00Okay. And then you have a few debt maturities coming up in 2025. Any thoughts on those at this point in time? Speaker 200:12:08Yes, absolutely. Maybe moving to CFO will address it. Yes, we are actively examining various instruments. We'll probably be in the market in the next few months to refinance some of the debt, especially the one that is coming current between the Term Loan A and the €250,000,000 high yield. So some form of refinancing will happen this year. Speaker 600:12:36Okay, great. And then my last question, you probably won't be able to say too much on it, but as you look at the sum of the parts and the strategic, are there ways what is your thoughts on leverage here at DKL and are there ways that that could be improved as part of that? Anything you can kind of say on that subject? Speaker 200:12:56So you can probably see the trend, Paul, that we have seen with the leverage ratio was improving quarter over quarter. We will continue this trend. That's our plan. And obviously, there are more ideas on the table, but once we get into a more higher level of resolution, we communicate with the market. But I think that if you connect the dots that you have seen in the last year also, you can be very pleased with the improvement in leverage ratio. Speaker 200:13:25We are doing that consistently quarter after quarter. Speaker 600:13:29Great. And you think should we think of your goal is 4x or any thoughts on that? Speaker 200:13:37Yes. We started we addressed the market that we want to be below 4 and we eventually going to get there. Speaker 600:13:47Excellent. Okay, thank you very much. Speaker 200:13:50Thank you, Paul. There are no further questions at this time. I will turn Operator00:13:55the call back over to Abigail for closing remarks. Speaker 200:14:00Thank you. I would like to thank my colleagues around the table, to our Board of Directors, to our investors and mostly to our employees that are making this as a great company it is. And we'll talk again next quarter. Thank you so much. Operator00:14:15Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes your conference call for today. Thank you for joining, and you may now disconnect your lines. 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This segment provides marketing services for the refined products and terminalling services at refined products terminals to independent third parties. The Storage and Transportation segment comprises tanks, offloading facilities, trucks, and ancillary assets, which provide crude oil, intermediate, and refined products transportation and storage services. Delek Logistics GP, LLC serves as the general partner of the company. Delek Logistics Partners, LP was incorporated in 2012 and is headquartered in Brentwood, Tennessee. 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There are 7 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:01Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Delek Logistics Partners 4th Quarter 2023 Conference Call. At this time, all lines are in a listen only mode. Following the presentation, we will conduct a question and answer session. This call is being recorded on Tuesday, February 27, 2024. I would now like to turn the conference over to Rosie Zulek, VP of Investor Relations. Operator00:00:31Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:33Good day, and welcome to the Delek Logistics Partners 4th quarter earnings conference call. Participants on today's call will include Avigail Thoric, President Joseph Israel, EVP, Operations Ruben Spiegel, EVP and Chief Financial Officer and Odeli Sakhazi, SVP, Delek Logistics. As a reminder, this conference call will contain forward looking statements as defined under the federal securities laws, including without limitation, statements regarding guidance and future business outlook. These statements involve risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ from our forecasts. For more information, please refer to the risk factors discussed in the partnership's most recently filed annual report on Form 10 ks and quarterly report on Form 10 Q filed with the SEC, along with the press release associated with this call. Speaker 100:01:32The partnership assumes no obligation to update any forward looking statements or information, which speak as of their respective dates. I'll now turn the call over to Abigail for opening remarks. Speaker 200:01:45Thank you, Rosy. Delek Logistics partner finished 2023 strong. We delivered another record quarter and achieved a record year. DKL exceed $100,000,000 in adjusted EBITDA this quarter. We saw a substantial growth from our new connection in our Midland Gathering operations further validating our strong position in the Permian Basin. Speaker 200:02:13I'm very proud of our employees who are dedicated to making Delek Logistics succeed. It is their dedication to safe and reliable operations that makes our results possible. The team has gone without a lost time injury 4 years in a row and counting. We're also focused on growing third party revenues, allocating capital in a disciplined manner, and exploring natural gas opportunities in the Delaware Basin where we see significant growth. In January, the Board approved the 44th consecutive increase in the quarterly distribution to 1.55 dollars per unit. Speaker 200:03:00Delek Logistics has shown a strong track record of delivering value to unit holders. We feel confident in our ability to maintain competitive distribution to our investors. Speaker 300:03:13I will now hand it over to Ruben. Thank you, Abigail. The Q4 of 2023 adjusted EBITDA was $100,900,000 compared with $92,500,000 in the same period of 2022. The 4th quarter EBITDA was $86,100,000 which included a $14,800,000 goodwill impairment related to some of our Delaware gathering and processing assets. The impairment was primarily driven by a significant increase in interest rates. Speaker 300:03:44Our long term outlook of the Delaware Gathering system remains unchanged. Distributable cash flow was $65,000,000 and the DCF coverage ratio was 1.4. For the Gathering and Processing segment, adjusted EBITDA for the quarter was $53,300,000 compared with $48,100,000 in the Q4 of 'twenty two. The increase was primarily due to higher throughput from Delek Logistics' Permian Basin assets. Wholesale marketing and terminalling adjusted EBITDA in the Q4 of 2023 was $28,400,000 compared with 23 $300,000 in prior year. Speaker 300:04:23The increase was primarily from higher terminalling utilization. Storage and transportation adjusted EBITDA in the quarter was $17,500,000 compared to $16,100,000 in the Q4 of 2022. The increase was mainly driven by higher storage and transportation rates. And lastly, the investment in pipeline joint venture segment contributed $8,500,000 this quarter compared with $9,000,000 in the Q4 of 2022. Moving on to capital expenditures. Speaker 300:04:54The capital program for 2023 was $74,000,000 This includes $7,000,000 of proceeds from producers to partially fund growth projects. Most of the spend throughout the year was for growth projects, namely advancing new connections in the Midland and Delaware gathering systems. For 2024, Delek Logistics Partner expects the capital program to be about 70,000,000 dollars This includes approximately $20,000,000 of sustaining and regulatory capital and $50,000,000 of growth capital. We will continue to advance new connection in our gathering system for the volume growth at the partnership. With that, we can open the call for questions. Operator00:05:37Thank Your first question comes from Doug Arwin from Citi. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:06:02Hi, thanks for the question. I just want to start with the Delaware gathering and processing assets. Understanding the long term outlook is still intact, can you maybe just talk about how the 3 Bear assets are trending today just versus the initial expectations when you acquired them? I think the initial target for these assets when they were acquired was $100,000,000 of annual EBITDA. Is that still a good number to work with here near term? Speaker 200:06:29Hey, Doug. It's Avigail. Good morning. Thank you for joining our call. Generally speaking, the 3 Bear now DDG is meeting our expectation. Speaker 200:06:41We also being over there in that area give us insight for more opportunities we see in the region. And as you probably picked up on my prepared remark, there is additional opportunity mainly on the natural gas. So that was a very good position to get into and we are happy around it. Speaker 400:07:10Okay. Got it. Thanks. And then just second question just on the broader 'twenty four outlook. You gave last quarter you talked about exiting 'twenty three at $100,000,000 quarterly EBITDA run rate, which you achieved this quarter. Speaker 400:07:24Are there any similar targets you can point to moving forward, whether that's on EBITDA, volume growth or some other metric just to kind of help frame the growth outlook for 2024? Yes. So Speaker 200:07:37we are focusing to have a constant improvement and we are committed to keep improving our business. So we are very optimistic about what we see in the business on the opportunity. We have seen a nice significant CapEx plan into the business that will enhance additional opportunities. But we are very optimistic and we see consistent and constant improvement in the business. So that's going to be what we Speaker 500:08:08can provide in these 10 seconds. Speaker 400:08:12Got it. I'll leave it there. Thank you. Speaker 500:08:16Thank you for joining us today. Speaker 200:08:31There are no further questions at Operator00:08:33this time. I will turn we do have one more question, I apologize, from Paul Longos from Lord Abbott. Please go ahead. Speaker 600:08:42Yes. Hi. I was curious, it looked like the Midland volumes were down a little bit sequentially and some of the gas and the water and the Delaware volumes were down a little bit sequentially. Forgive me if I missed that. What was why is that? Speaker 600:08:59And should we expect that trend to continue? Speaker 200:09:03Yes. So thank you, Paul, for joining us today. The gathering, the downward volume are pretty much in line quarter over quarter. What we see in the Permian Basin is a touch lower and you can expect it after producer adding new production. You probably know that as good as anyone that the new production in the beginning goes to a very high and then stabilize over time. Speaker 200:09:28So that's what we see. As you probably picked up, we have a significant capital budget that will enhance additional volume and connection in the DPG, the Midland area, and we'll see volume picked up along the year. Oderiv, do you want to add anything to that? Speaker 400:09:47Yes, sure. Speaker 500:09:48And this is Adelio. Hi, Paul. Good morning. I'll just give a little bit more coloring from earlier on the Valor side as Abhijal mentioned. In Q4, we expedite some of our maintenance work that Speaker 200:10:01we plan to do in Q1 and decided to do Speaker 500:10:04it in Q4. That actually helped us to continue improving volumes. So this is why you see gas slightly lower compared to between Q4 and Q3 of this year. But if Speaker 200:10:14you look both in DPG and also in DDG Speaker 500:10:16in both sides, if you compare it year over year, we obviously continue to improve our associate performance. So Q4 primarily, we had that work that was done Speaker 200:10:25that we expedited. It was planned to Speaker 500:10:26work on the most even the plan. But as we're looking right now in Q1, those numbers are already improving compared both to Q3 and also Q4. Speaker 600:10:36And that improvement is for both Midland and Delaware? Speaker 500:10:41Primarily the Delaware and Midland, as Abhijal mentioned, we do see the natural decline in the business compared to the peak we've seen or compared to the volume we've seen in Q3. With that said, we do have a capital program as Abhijal mentioned also Ruben mentioned in his remarks of $50,000,000 on connection. So we should start to see an increase primarily in the second half of the year as we implement those projects. Speaker 600:11:05Okay, great. And then I noticed corporate expenses were down a little bit sequentially. Could you talk about that a little bit? Speaker 200:11:15It's a we are doing across the companies to streamline expenses. We had a big initiative on the parent company to reduce expenses. We call it the 0 based budget with a target of $100,000,000 some of that went all the way to DKL. So you see to our partnership, so you see the fruits of that. So we didn't put it on the billboard here, but we were able to enjoy that. Speaker 600:11:45Okay, great. So we should expect expenses to kind of stabilize or maybe even continue to improve going forward? Speaker 200:11:54Yes, I don't think we are giving guidance, but there is no reason that we go back. Speaker 600:12:00Okay. And then you have a few debt maturities coming up in 2025. Any thoughts on those at this point in time? Speaker 200:12:08Yes, absolutely. Maybe moving to CFO will address it. Yes, we are actively examining various instruments. We'll probably be in the market in the next few months to refinance some of the debt, especially the one that is coming current between the Term Loan A and the €250,000,000 high yield. So some form of refinancing will happen this year. Speaker 600:12:36Okay, great. And then my last question, you probably won't be able to say too much on it, but as you look at the sum of the parts and the strategic, are there ways what is your thoughts on leverage here at DKL and are there ways that that could be improved as part of that? Anything you can kind of say on that subject? Speaker 200:12:56So you can probably see the trend, Paul, that we have seen with the leverage ratio was improving quarter over quarter. We will continue this trend. That's our plan. And obviously, there are more ideas on the table, but once we get into a more higher level of resolution, we communicate with the market. But I think that if you connect the dots that you have seen in the last year also, you can be very pleased with the improvement in leverage ratio. Speaker 200:13:25We are doing that consistently quarter after quarter. Speaker 600:13:29Great. And you think should we think of your goal is 4x or any thoughts on that? Speaker 200:13:37Yes. We started we addressed the market that we want to be below 4 and we eventually going to get there. Speaker 600:13:47Excellent. Okay, thank you very much. Speaker 200:13:50Thank you, Paul. There are no further questions at this time. I will turn Operator00:13:55the call back over to Abigail for closing remarks. Speaker 200:14:00Thank you. I would like to thank my colleagues around the table, to our Board of Directors, to our investors and mostly to our employees that are making this as a great company it is. And we'll talk again next quarter. Thank you so much. Operator00:14:15Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes your conference call for today. Thank you for joining, and you may now disconnect your lines. Thank you.Read morePowered by