Establishment Labs Q4 2023 Earnings Call Transcript

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February 28, 2024

There are 9 speakers on the call.

Operator

Good afternoon. Welcome to Establishment Labs 4th Quarter 2023 Earnings Call. At this time, all participants will be in a listen only mode. At the end of this call, we will open the line for a question and answer session. Instructions will follow at that time.

Operator

As a reminder, today's call is being recorded. I will now turn the call over to Raj Denhoy, Chief Financial Officer. Please go

Speaker 1

ahead. You, operator, and thank you, everyone, for joining us. With me today is Juan Jose Tricone Quiros, our Chief Executive Officer. Following our prepared remarks, we'll take your questions. Before we begin, I would like to remind you that comments made by management during this call will include forward looking statements within the meaning of federal securities laws.

Speaker 1

These include statements on Establishment Labs' financial outlook and the company's plans and timing for product development and sales. These forward looking statements are based on management's current expectations and involve risks and uncertainties. For a discussion of the principal risk factors and uncertainties that may affect our performance or cause results to differ materially from these statements, I encourage you to review our most recent annual and quarterly reports on Form 10 ks and Form 10 Q as well as other SEC filings, which are available on our website at establishmentlabs.com. I'd also like to remind you that our comments may include certain non GAAP financial measures with respect to our performance, including but not limited to sales results, which can be stated on a constant currency basis or the company's earnings, which can be stated as adjusted EBITDA. Reconciliations to comparable GAAP financial measures or non GAAP measures, if available, may be found in today's press release, which is available on our website.

Speaker 1

Please also note that Establishment Labs received an investigational device exemption from the FDA for Motiva Implants and is undergoing a clinical trial to support regulatory approval in the United States. We continually seek to expand the geographies in which our products are regulatory approved. Please check with your local authority for specific product availability. The content of this conference call contains time sensitive information accurate only as of the date of this live broadcast, February 28, 2024. Except as required by law, Establishment Labs undertakes no obligation to revise or otherwise update any statement to reflect DaVinci's circumstances after the date of this call.

Speaker 1

With that, it is my pleasure to turn the call over to our CEO, Juan Jose.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Raj, and good afternoon, everyone. Revenue in the Q4 of 2023 totaled $31,600,000 in line with the range we pre announced in early January. While our second half results reflected lower demand for breast procedures globally, our markets are stabilizing and we are seeing improving demand including from our distributors. Our global market check suggest that we will have continued improvement throughout 2024. Given this, we are setting guidance in the range of 174 $1,000,000 to $184,000,000 representing growth of 5% to 11%.

Speaker 2

This guidance does not include the launch of Motiva Implants in the United States, which would significantly improve both our revenue and growth. 2024, 20th anniversary of our founding is a pivotal year for Establishment Labs. With the approval of our implants in China and our pending approval in the United States, we are becoming a true global player in our industry. We are well positioned for multiyear growth and poised to take global market leadership in an industry that has not brought any meaningful innovation to market in more than 2 decades. 2024 is also the year in which we will achieve the necessary scale to become EBITDA positive with a clear path to cash flow positive.

Speaker 2

Since we launched Motiva 14 years ago, we have been in the most price sensitive markets with low ASPs and gross margins. Our entries into China and the United States provide the necessary market dynamics for a healthy business model with significant growth. We have taken and continue to take a number of steps to reduce cash burn and expect cash used to be less than $48,000,000 It is worth reiterating that we remain focused on achieving positive EBITDA by the end of this year and turning cash flow positive in 2025. As we prepare for growth ahead, we have taken tangible steps to focus our business on the areas of highest returns. In this process, we have reduced global headcount by approximately 28% and have reprioritized our operating spending.

Speaker 2

The impact of these initiatives can be seen in the reduction in cash use in the 4th quarter to $12,200,000 This was less than 1 third of our cash use in the 2nd and third quarters of 2023. This focus on improved efficiency and cash use is core to our budgeting process and is a significant part of how management will be compensated this year. In early January, we added to our balance sheet with a $50,000,000 private placement, bringing our pro form a cash position to approximately $90,000,000 Last week, we announced an amendment to our existing credit facility with Oaktree Capital. The amendment updated the terms under which we can draw an additional $50,000,000 in non dilutive financing. The first $25,000,000 is available in FDA approval of Notiva in the United States.

Speaker 2

While we are committed to achieving cash flow breakeven with the cash we have, the availability of this capital should we need it helps further de risk the full execution of our U. S. Launch strategy. Raj will provide additional details on our Q4 performance and our outlook in a moment, but I would like to provide some additional detail on our most important near term initiatives, the United States, China and MiyaFemtek. In the United States, the first case with our Motiva Fluorab tissue expander was performed in late December by a surgical team led by Doctor.

Speaker 2

Mark Clements at the University of Texas, MD Anderson Cancer Center in Houston, Texas. FLORA is initially being made available to a limited number of centers of excellence in the United States. We are working through the back process with a first list of 15 centers of excellence across the country. As these premier cancer centers adopt FLORA, the benefits of this unique expander are making clear that there is a new standard in breast reconstruction. FLORA includes our patented SmoothSilk Surface technology as well as an RFID enabled non magnetic port and is labeled as MR conditional by the FDA.

Speaker 2

By being magnet free, Fluora avoids the interference that magnets cause during MR imaging and can improve the precision of radiation oncology treatments. This is a distinct advantage to FLORA as all other commercially available breast tissue expanders include magnets. FLORA defines a new era for breast reconstruction and it will help further transform breast cancer into a treatable disease from which women can fully recover. For our Motiva Implants, our PMA remains under review by the FDA. Our interactions with the agency on Motiva remain very positive and we continue to make progress.

Speaker 2

We do not yet have a date for the GMP inspection, but given our regular interactions with the agency, we expect to receive notification very soon. Our team is ready for and we have over a decade of experience in audits from high vigilance authorities. So far this year, we have had our MDSAP surveillance audit, which includes compliance with medical device regulations from the United States, Canada, Europe, Brazil, Japan and Australia for our 3 manufacturing sites in Costa Rica. We also had our quality management system surveillance audit for the latest MDR European Medical Device Regulations. These audits resulted in the renewal of our certifications and the recommendation for inclusion of our latest manufacturing unit at the Surajun.

Speaker 2

Mia FEMTECH is creating an entirely new true minimally invasive category within breast aesthetics and the list of countries where MIA is available continues to grow. We have partner sites in Japan, Spain, France, Sweden, Switzerland, Germany and Costa Rica and we have partnered with distributors in the United Kingdom, Turkey, Poland and the Middle East to begin opening sites in those regions in 2024. We now have 17 centers certified to offer the Mee experience across 15 cities in Japan, Switzerland, Spain, France, Germany and Sweden with 39 certified plastic surgeons performing MIA. We are in the process of onboarding an additional 15 new centers across Europe and the Middle East with 31 additional plastic surgeons. We have also signed 20 new centers which will begin the process of onboarding in the first half of this year.

Speaker 2

On top of that, we have a lot of interest from the best plastic surgery clinics who see the business opportunity with the expansion into minimally invasive breast aesthetics and we are in advanced negotiations with 16 such clinics. Mia is gaining appeal with a new consumer. Of the women who experience MIA, so far 38% were not considering breast augmentation prior to MIA. The average consideration time among these women was less than 2 months versus 3 to 7 years for traditional breast augmentation and the average price paid for MIA was 70% or more higher than a traditional procedure. Moreover, the testimonials from women reinforce the value proposition based on convenience, quick recovery and excellent aesthetic outcomes.

Speaker 2

It is still early in the launch of Mia, but we are seeing proof points that we are creating and capturing new consumer demand in this new category in breast aesthetics. In China, we held a series of events during the 1st week of January to formally launch Motiva with our exclusive distribution partner. We held special events in Shanghai, Guangzhou, Shenzhen and Hainan. Supported by our partner additional medical education events have been taking place in different cities in China and will continue throughout the year. China is the 2nd largest market for breast augmentation and has among the highest ASPs in the world.

Speaker 2

Our research confirms that there is a large segment in the Chinese market willing to pay significantly higher prices for the perceived value of the highest quality products. We expect our share in the Chinese market will mirror the success we have seen in surrounding markets of Asia. In markets like South Korea, Japan, Thailand, Vietnam, Singapore, Hong Kong and Taiwan, we hold the number one market share position and China should match this success over time. I will now turn the call over to Rob.

Speaker 1

Thank you, Anoj. Total revenue for the Q4 was $31,600,000 a decline of 28% from the year ago period. Currency had a Rec sales in the 4th quarter were approximately 49% of implant sales, while distributors made up the balance. From a regional perspective, sales in Europe, Middle East and Africa were approximately 53% of the global total Asia Pacific 19% and Latin America 27%. Brazil, which is our largest market globally accounted for approximately 10% of total quarterly sales.

Speaker 1

Our gross profit for the Q4 was $20,600,000 or 65.2 percent of revenue, compared to $28,200,000 or 64.3 percent of revenue for the same period in 2022. Our gross profit in the 4th quarter was negatively impacted by an obsolescence charge, without which gross margins would have been approximately 66%. Our gross margin was also impacted by higher overhead and labor costs. Costs were higher in part from changes in foreign exchange rates between the U. S.

Speaker 1

Dollar and the Costa Rican cologne. As we report in U. S. Dollars, the strengthening of the colon over the last year resulted in higher reported costs. Average selling prices in the Q4 were up from the Q3 of 2023 and year over year.

Speaker 1

SG and A expenses for the 4th quarter increased approximately $2,000,000 to $36,900,000 compared to $34,900,000 in the Q4 of 2022. The increase in SG and A in the Q4 resulted in part from our investments in new growth initiatives like EMEA and preparations for our launch in the U. S. These were offset by the significant cost reduction initiatives we undertook in the quarter. SG and A declined $3,100,000 sequentially from the Q3.

Speaker 1

R and D expenses for the 4th quarter declined approximately $700,000 from the same quarter a year ago to $5,800,000 and were down $1,300,000 sequentially. Total operating expenses for the Q4 were $42,700,000 an increase of approximately $1,400,000 from the year ago period. Operating expenses declined approximately $4,400,000 from the 3rd quarter due primarily to cost reduction initiatives in the quarter. Net loss from operations for the Q4 was $22,100,000 compared to a net loss of $13,200,000 in the same period in 2022. Our cash position as of December 31 was $40,000,000 compared to $66,400,000 at the end of 2022.

Speaker 1

Our cash used in the 4th quarter was $12,200,000 which compared to $38,000,000 in the previous quarter. With the $50,000,000 private placement in January, our pro form a cash position increased to $90,000,000 Last week, we also amended our credit facility with Oaktree. The milestones under which we can access the 2 remaining tranches on our debt facility, which totaled $50,000,000 were amended to allow us to access the first $25,000,000 on U. S. FDA approval of Motiva Implants and the second with the additional milestone of achieving $195,000,000 in trailing 12 month sales.

Speaker 1

For 2024, our guidance excludes the contribution of Motiva Implants approved in the United States. We are guiding to a revenue range of $174,000,000 to $184,000,000 representing growth of 5% to 11%. We expect currency to have a minimal impact on our sales results this year. We expect gross margins in 2024 to be approximately 100 basis points higher than 2023 to a range of 65.5% to 66%. We've taken a number of steps to lower cash use in 2024.

Speaker 1

Efforts include the reduction of global personnel by approximately 28%, targeted reductions in operating expenses and management of inventory levels. As a result, we expect cash used before financing in 2024 to be less than $48,000,000 With these actions, we expect to achieve positive adjusted EBITDA in 2024 and positive cash flow in 2025. I will now turn the call back to Juan Jose.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Raj. Establishment Labs was founded on bringing differentiated technology to an industry that has seen little innovation for decades. Unlike our competitors, we have grounded our products in true science and innovation and the clinical and scientific data clearly demonstrate our technologies have no parallel in this industry. We are now launching our technologies into China and the United States, the 2 largest highest priced and highest gross margin markets in the world. In our current markets, FluorA is constructing a new standard in breast reconstruction and Mia is creating an entirely new and higher value category in breast aesthetics.

Speaker 2

We are acutely focused on creating shareholder value and a significant piece of this is to get to cash flow positive as soon as possible. We are confident in our ability to do this early next year and have modeled our cash spend accordingly. With the cash we have on hand and the amendment to our credit facility, we are in an excellent position to fund our growth initiatives while meeting our profitability targets. 2024 will be one of the most important in our 20 year history. We are entering this year with a solid foundation and with a clear path to become the leading global company in breast aesthetics and reconstruction.

Speaker 2

I will now turn the call over to the operator for your questions.

Operator

Thank Our first question is from Alan Ng with JPMorgan. Please proceed.

Speaker 3

Thanks for the question.

Speaker 4

I had a quick one to start off on China. The approval came a little bit later than expected, but you were previously expecting a contribution of in the low teens in Q4. Now some of that stocking, not all underlying quarterly demand. But how should we think about your assumptions for China contribution this year in light the fact that you're not assuming any contribution from the U. S?

Speaker 1

Yes. Thanks, Alan. I think when we lowered the guidance coming out of the Q3 for 2023, we talked about China being roughly $10,000,000 of the reduction in 2023. As we think about the contribution in 2024, that's a good place to start, right? We don't expect that's all going to come in the Q1.

Speaker 1

It should be spread out over the first 2 or 3 quarters of the year. But I think as a starting point for what China will contribute for us this year, I think that's a good place to start.

Speaker 2

Yes. Additionally, I think it's important to recognize that what we are doing now is holding educational events in Tier 1 and Tier 2 cities and our shipments in the first half of this year will mirror stocking taking place in those cities across China. And in the second half of the year, you should think more about some of the reordering starting to take place as demand for these procedures increase.

Speaker 4

Got it. And then a question kind of on broader market dynamics. When we think about the assumptions underpinning your guidance, in early January, you talked about how markets haven't necessarily recovered, but that previous weakness looks to have stabilized. What assumption do you have for the underlying market to get to your range? Should we think that the bottom half of the range assumes minimal improvement and the top half assumes more improvement?

Speaker 4

Just help us level set your expectations there. Thank you.

Speaker 1

Yes. No, I think, the way we think about it is, I think you're right. I mean, we are seeing the market stabilizing. We're seeing recovery in these markets. Things are not fully back to normal.

Speaker 1

I think as we look out over the course of the year and even some of the feedback we're already getting from the market is that things are picking up, things are improving. And so we do expect to see that stabilization to take hold over the year. In terms of the range, the top to the bottom, I mean, for us this year, I think as you described it, right, if we see a stronger recovery, a quicker recovery, it will probably push us towards the upper end. If things take a little bit longer, perhaps with the lower end. So we're starting this year, I think, from a kind of a conservative starting point.

Speaker 1

And again, we're seeing things improve out there, but it's going to take some time.

Operator

Our next question is from Joanne Wuensch with Citi. Please proceed.

Speaker 5

Good evening and thank you for taking the question. One is sort of mechanical. I'm curious what you think your CapEx spend will be this year with the majority of your new facility behind you? And then my second question is a little bit more interesting, I hope, which is if you're seeing stabilization in demand, is it pocketed? Is it in certain regions?

Speaker 5

How do we think about stabilization transitioning towards higher demand and or growth? Thank you.

Speaker 2

Yes. Thank you for that. I think what takes us to this comments around markets recovering and us seeing some of the stabilization taking place, we see this happening at different speed in different regions. For instance, Brazil, I think it's still not in the right place, but we see Asia picking up again. We also see in our direct markets in Europe, demand picking up as well.

Speaker 2

So I think it's not going to happen all at once. But we're not the only company seeing the recovery in aesthetics. And that includes, of course, breast aesthetics and reconstruction.

Speaker 1

Yes. And on your question on CapEx, we did see stronger or heavier CapEx over the last couple of years as we were completing the new facility in Costa Rica, which you've been to. As we look out in 2024, there still is some work to be done on that facility. We also, as we've noted, we are investing in the United States. And so I think CapEx for us will still be something in the order of about $20,000,000 That's captured in the guidance we've given of the overall cash use being less than $48,000,000 this year.

Speaker 5

Thank you.

Operator

Our next question is from Anthony Pettone with Mizuho Group. Please proceed. Anthony, your line is live. Please check if you're muted. Our next question is from Josh Jennings with TD Cowen.

Operator

Please proceed.

Speaker 6

Hi, good afternoon. Thanks for taking the questions. I was hoping to just get some comments on Jose on your views on the state of the U. S. Breast implant market.

Speaker 6

I know you guys haven't launched yet, but future competitor announced or filed for bankruptcy and it seems like an opportune time for SABLXMLB to launch Motiva in the coming months. So maybe just the state of affairs there. And does this change your strategy on the U. S. Fluoro launch?

Speaker 6

I think Accenture had a relatively strong recon franchise.

Speaker 2

Yes, thanks Josh. So in the U. S. Market what you see is about 95% of procedures take place with round smooth implants that have very little difference between them. And with nothing to separate the offerings in the market, the basis of competition is not on the merits of the technology.

Speaker 2

So it's not surprising that in that situation the smallest of company was not able to survive. But I think that probably the slowdown in statics overall probably exacerbated the demise of that company. But overall, I think that just like any other slowdown that we have seen in the past, eventually it goes back. In 2008, 2009, it was about around 10% of procedures affected for 2 years, but eventually it came back and then came back higher. I think the U.

Speaker 2

S. Market is starting to pick up again from what we hear from different indicators. And yes, of course, as we look into the expansion of FLAURA, this provides for an opportunity for us to be able to bring our fully differentiated tissue expander to U. S. Centers of Excellence.

Speaker 6

Great, thanks. And then just I know you haven't detailed and it's a little bit premature to detail the U. S. Commercial launch strategy. But just in terms of the initial spend, the investments that have already been made versus the investments that are required as you move closer to launch and then execute the launch and just considering the updated status of your balance sheet.

Speaker 6

Anything you can share just on terms of investments made versus investments to be made in the coming months in front of the launch? Thanks a lot.

Speaker 1

Yes, sure. We have been investing in the U. S. I think as we've been building the infrastructure here to be a commercial organization, if you think about finance, logistics, the things you need to be commercial, so that spending has been taking place and we're actually leveraging that now as we've launched Fluor in the United States and are starting to see traction with that product. When we get closer to the approval of the implants in the United States, we will start to see a pickup in spending relative to commercial activity.

Speaker 1

But given the higher ASPs in the U. S, the higher margin here, the ability we have to leverage the spending, we've already done as well as the infrastructure we have outside the United States, the period of time which we're loss making in the U. S. Should be relatively short. I think as we noted in the prepared remarks, the amendment to the Oaktree facility also gives us additional capital should we need it to fully fund the U.

Speaker 1

S. Launch strategy. So we're feeling pretty good about where we are in terms of getting ready for being commercial with our entire portfolio in the U. S.

Operator

Our next question is from George sellers with Stephens Incorporated. Please proceed.

Speaker 7

Good afternoon and thanks for taking the question. 2 parter here on Flora. Just curious, first of all, what your guidance assumes, if any, for Flora contribution in 2024? And then could you also just speak to the commercial process for Flora and breast reconstruction in the hospital as compared to commercialization in the breast augmentation market?

Speaker 2

Yes. Thanks, George. When you launch products, especially products that have such differentiation, a lot of your focus at the beginning is on the qualitative part. Still you heard our numbers, we have 15 centers that are working through the VAC process. That process takes time, but you're already seeing us getting into these hospitals in the first half of this year and we'll continue adding to that.

Speaker 2

But it's early on to be able to give you precision on what we expect for FLORA. Now overall, it is $180,000,000 market and we are selling our tissue expand at our premium. So we do expect this to eventually be an important contributor over the next few years to our growth. And definitely, it has the highest ASPs in the world and the highest gross margins for any market for tissue expanders.

Speaker 7

Okay. That's really helpful. And then maybe shifting to EMEA. Could you give some additional color on what EMEA contributed in the quarter? And then also your expectations, I believe you've said there's another 30 or so potential clinics that you may add to the MIA clinics.

Speaker 7

But just curious your expectations for that progression in 2024 as well?

Speaker 2

Look, just like everyone, we are super excited with MIA, particularly because we see the amazing results and the differentiated experience. The fact that these women are just going back to their daily lives minus the exercise the same day is just an amazing thing to see. And that's why we're so confident on the growth of MIA. But just like I said before, when you're launching these type of products, you focus first on the qualitative. What we did today though is give you a lot of color on the number of centers.

Speaker 2

So just with the list we provided, it seems that we should be in about 70 centers this year at least. So the network of NIA certified centers is increasing and what we are seeing is in the first group of clinics that launched in the second half of last year, we are seeing increasing demand every month. And as we get through capillarity in these cities with more centers getting there, then we're going to see more demand. So, eventually, I think what we will try to do is on top of all the information we gave today on the number of centers is also give you an idea in the future of how that ramps up in terms of a number of procedures. But still a little bit early to go ahead in that and do that.

Speaker 7

Okay. Thank you all for the time.

Operator

Our next question is from Marie Thibault with BTIG. Please proceed.

Speaker 3

Hey, good afternoon, everyone. This is Sam Ivar on for Marie. Thanks for taking the questions. Maybe I can start, Raj, on just an operating expense question and maybe your thoughts for 2024. And if any of these cuts that you made in the back half of last year, is there anything left to be recognized in Q1?

Speaker 3

Is that all behind us at this point?

Speaker 1

Yes. So I think there will be some additional spending in the Q1 relative to the Q4 in terms of cash use, again around severance costs and we do have heavier costs usually in the beginning of the year. And I think it's also important to note that we're continuing to look for efficiencies across the business, right. So in terms of getting to the stable position, we're not there yet and we will continue to look again at ways to make our business more efficient. We did take a lot of cost out of the base.

Speaker 1

So if you look at operating expenses last year versus this year, they will be down something around $25,000,000 or $30,000,000 from where we were in 2023. So I don't know if that answers your question, but in terms of cash use, we could see a little bit of a tick up in the Q1 again on some of the severance costs and the restructuring costs we've undertaken. Then over the course of the year, the overall expense base is going to be significantly lower than where it was last year.

Speaker 3

Yes. No, that's super helpful. Thanks for that. Maybe I can use just my follow-up here. I know we're getting close to maybe when we'd expect you guys to have maybe 4 year data from the pivotal trial.

Speaker 3

I know considering a lot of the back and forth with the FDA right now, I don't know if that's something you're looking to present or is that something maybe we should hold off on maybe seeing you guys present until you get approval?

Speaker 2

So, it is important to remember that the FDA per the guidance document on breast implant requires 3 year data which we have provided. However, as a woman's health company we're always been super transparent with data. We were the 1st company ever to provide data pre approval on the trial and we will continue to do so. So yes, the idea is to provide the 4 year data to the market after the FDA has received that data for our periodic interactions. And yes, and I think this data will show as it has shown in the past that we have an amazing technology with superior safety results.

Speaker 3

Great. Thanks for taking the questions.

Operator

Our next question is from Anthony Petrone with Mizuho Group. Please proceed.

Speaker 8

Thanks. Apologies, just hopping between calls here. So maybe first just on the geographic sort of split for the aesthetics market. Are there any regions where you're starting to see green shoots where perhaps distributors are seeing more activity on the ground and are re upping on inventory stocking. So that would be question 1, just geographically how the market is playing out.

Speaker 8

And then maybe any thoughts on where the underlying aesthetic market is in the United States just ahead of a potential launch on Motiva into the second half? And then I'll have one follow-up for Raj on the middle of the P and L.

Speaker 2

Yes. So if you want to think about it by regions, I think that probably Latin America and most importantly Brazil have not recovered as quickly as other markets like in Asia we're starting to see that's a full distributor region for us by the way, but we're starting to see some of the activity coming back. And we are also seeing that across Europe and especially in our direct markets where we see that in real time. So we expect this to continue taking place at different speeds in these regions. But when we think about guidance for this year, I think what you should think of is conditions improving throughout this year.

Speaker 2

And the U. S. Was actually hit quite strongly by this global slowdown in aesthetics. But from different indicators, we know the situation is improving. And by the time we go to market, I think that we'll be in a good position to take over demand.

Speaker 2

And the fact that we might go to market with one less competitor, of course, adds up to the opportunity.

Speaker 8

No, absolutely. And then, Raj, just on the expense outlook, when you think about the Motiva trial eventually rolling off, I mean, what is the cost burden on the trial itself? And then when you think about reinvesting those dollars, is that happening now ahead of a launch or will it happen post FDA clearance? Thanks.

Speaker 1

Yes, it's a fair question. We are still incurring costs relative to that trial as we're moving to the FDA process. We were getting close to the approval, but there's still costs associated with it. Once the approval happens, that's we don't stop our clinical activity in the United States. We have products coming after that.

Speaker 1

Mia is an important one that will come to the United States, the Ergonomix II platform. So there will still continue to be costs associated with our regulatory activity in the United States. But I think in general, as we noted earlier, we've taken quite a bit of cost out of our base here in 2024. And so again, we're operating on a much more efficient basis and it does give us some flexibility as we move through the year to take advantage of some of these opportunities if we can. So I wouldn't expect that event of the U.

Speaker 1

S. Approval is really going to step down our spending here too dramatically.

Speaker 8

Helpful. Thank you.

Operator

That is all the time that we have for questions today. I will now turn the call back over to Juan Jose for closing remarks.

Speaker 2

Thank you for joining us in today's call. We look forward to providing our next quarterly update in May, and we wish everyone continued good health and happiness.

Operator

Thank you. This will conclude today's conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time and thank you for your participation.

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