Asbury Automotive Group Q4 2023 Earnings Call Transcript

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February 29, 2024

There are 11 speakers on the call.

Operator

Good morning and thank you for standing by. Welcome to Papa John's 4th Quarter and Full Year 2023 Earnings Call and Webcast. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. After the speakers' presentation, there will be a question and answer session. Please note that today's conference call is being recorded.

Operator

I would now like to turn the conference over to Stacy Crowley, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Speaker 1

Good morning, and welcome to our 4th quarter and full year 2023 earnings conference call. This morning, we issued our Q4 and full year 2023 earnings release. A copy of the release can be obtained on our Investor Relations website at ir.papajohns.com under the News Releases tab or by contacting our Investor Relations department at investorrelationspapajohns.com. On the call this morning are Rob Lynch, our President and CEO and Ravi Thanawala, our Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, I need to remind you that comments made during this call will include forward looking statements within the meaning of federal securities laws.

Speaker 1

These statements may involve risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from these statements. Forward looking statements should be considered in conjunction with the cautionary statements in our earnings release and the risk factors included in our SEC filings. In addition, please refer to our earnings release for the required reconciliation of non GAAP financial measures discussed on today's call. Lastly, let me thank you in advance for asking only one question and getting back in the queue for more follow ups. Rob?

Speaker 2

Thank you, Stacy. Good morning, everyone, and thanks for joining us. Before we get into our 2023 results and our 2024 strategic initiatives, I'd like to take a moment to briefly reflect on the progress that we've made over the last 5 years. When I joined Papa John's in 2019, system wide sales, North America units and operating income were rapidly declining. Since then, our team and franchisees have worked incredibly hard to rebuild the brand and regain consumer loyalty.

Speaker 2

Their focus and diligence during some of the most dynamic times in our industry has strengthened Papa John's and positioned us for sustainable growth in the QSR space. To our team members and franchisees, thank you for your commitment and dedication to our customers, our values and our brand and for playing a key role in our success. Because of these efforts, today we are reporting another year of record global system wide sales, our 4th consecutive year of positive North America comps, accelerating North America unit growth and adjusted operating income with a 5 year CAGR of approximately 12%. More importantly, we made foundational improvements to our restaurant operations, grew our global restaurant footprint, improved our menu with innovative new products and advanced our digital and marketing platforms to support the evolution of our business model for our next chapter of growth. Our product innovation rooted in our brand promise of better ingredients, better pizza continues to be at the heart of our success.

Speaker 2

In 2023, we expanded some of our most popular platforms with the Garlic Epic Stuffed Crust Pizza, Doritos Cool Ranch Papadillas and new Papa Bites including Oreo and Twix flavors. We also introduced new innovation like our Crispy Parm Pizza becoming the 1st large pizza chain to put cheese on the bottom of the crust and brought back fan favorites like our Schackaroni Pizza. We also executed on our Back to Better 1.0 initiatives, driving operational improvements to deliver better pizza with better service. At our company owned restaurants, we've reduced our out the door times nearly 25% to average under 20 minutes today and we've seen our overall customer satisfaction scores continue to improve. This great work has earned us the number one ranking in customer service for the pizza category on the American Customer Satisfaction Index in 2023.

Speaker 2

We also continue to lean into our domestic third party aggregator partnerships as sales through this channel reached another high in the 4th quarter, growing more than 10% sequentially and up more than 50% from a year ago. As we've mentioned on past calls, there continues to be a lot of room for category expansion in this channel. We have seen that new competitors entering the marketplace does not necessarily lead to significant volume loss for a brand like ours that has been thriving in this space for years. Our quarter to date trends have continued to increase relative to our 4th quarter run rate and we have increased our market share in this channel. In early January, we announced Back to Better 2.0.

Speaker 2

These initiatives are designed to drive best in class pizza QSR unit economics through higher sales, higher restaurant level margins and higher return on investment on new domestic restaurant openings, our largest and most profitable market. As part of our efforts to enhance our domestic national marketing investment and effectiveness, we went through an extensive advertising and media review process aimed at sharpening our analytics informed approach to marketing and consolidating and optimizing our partners at the national level to drive scale. As a result of this process, we have shifted to a more productive nationally focused marketing model. We are increasing the per store investment in the National Marketing Fund from 5% to 6% of sales beginning in the Q2 of 2024, while eliminating the 3% required local spend. The required marketing contribution rate decreases from 8% to 6% and brings of an immediate 200 basis points of margin at the restaurant level along with a bigger impact from their marketing spend.

Speaker 2

I am thankful for the overwhelming support we received from our franchisees on this change. More than 90% of the system voted in favor, highlighting the confidence our franchisees have in our go forward marketing strategy. This includes improved audience selection, improved return on ad spend, sustained loyalty and increased cultural buzz. Our new partners are ramping quickly and we look forward to sharing how our marketing programs are evolving on future calls. Additionally, we are optimizing our investments in data science and marketing technology to enhance our consumer value perception driven by occasion, daypart and brand.

Speaker 2

Part of our success in driving positive sales over the past several years has been our ability to strike the right balance between ticket and transaction growth. This is accomplished through our barbell strategy that offers premium innovation while delivering on the needs of our value customers. We're focused on delivering value at every segment of our business, whether that is through promoted price points, our core menu or premium innovations. Moving to unit development and how we are incentivizing our franchisees to grow. In November, we launched a new development incentive to improve the return on capital investment of new domestic restaurants by waiving National Marketing Fund contributions for the 1st 5 years.

Speaker 2

This equates to 600 basis points of annual cost savings in their restaurant P and Ls for the 1st 5 years or an approximately $360,000 total benefit that will significantly improve the cash on cash payback for our developing franchisees who open new units in 2024. This incentive will now extend into 2025 offering 3 years of national marketing fund relief or an approximately $216,000 average benefit for new units opened in 2025. Currently in North America, we have more than 100 units in our pipeline at various stages of development. We're confident that this incentive program, which delivers best in class cash on cash returns, coupled with improved restaurant margins, customer service levels, marketing efficiencies and technology and analytics platforms will drive sustained development momentum for Papa John's. Given the business model changes associated with Back to Better 2.0, these restaurants built in 2024 have the potential to be some of the most profitable restaurants in our system.

Speaker 2

All of these strategic actions are designed to drive strong top line sales and more volume, which in turn makes our supply chain more productive. We are evolving our commissary business and increasing our fixed operating margin to drive profitable growth for our company, while improving supply chain productivity and delivering long term cost savings for our system. For example, our franchisees can now earn annual incentive based rebates as they increase volume and open new restaurants. The incremental volume driven by increased marketing and additional development will reduce the shared supply chain costs across the system. We are excited about these initiatives and the value that they will create for Papa John's and for our North America franchisees, not only as they ramp up in 2024, but over the next several years.

Speaker 2

Now to our international business. Over the past 10 years, we have more than doubled our international footprint and now operate in 50 countries and territories. As we pursue our next phase of international growth, we're evolving our business model to deliver an enhanced value proposition to our customers and franchisees, ensure targeted investments and efficient resource management and better position our largest markets for long term success. Beyond new unit development, it's about sustainably and profitably growing all of our restaurants globally. This past year, we've made significant enhancements to our international organization and infrastructure.

Speaker 2

As part of these efforts, we established international regional hubs and key target regions, Asia Pacific, EMEA and Latin America. These hubs are led by experienced general managers who are partnering with franchisees to create holistic strategies to drive profitable sales in their markets. Our teams are now aligned at the corporate and local levels to execute global best practices in operations, marketing and technology to accomplish our long term objective of increasing market share in key markets around the world. To support our international teams and franchisees, we are investing in consumer facing technology, digital infrastructure and enhanced financial and operational reporting. By investing in expanded ordering capabilities through our website and app and leveraging analytics, we expect to improve conversion, increase customer retention and deliver faster consumer insights to franchisees.

Speaker 2

This playbook is similar to what we successfully implemented within the U. S. Over the past few years and we expect it to be equally successful as we expand this investment strategy globally. We are also making progress on our repositioning efforts within the UK market and expect to improve in profitability during 2024. In 2023, we supported the transition of 61 underperforming UK franchise restaurants to other more proven UK franchisees.

Speaker 2

We have seen a significant improvement in the performance of these locations with their 4th quarter comp sales finishing well ahead of the other restaurants within the UK market. In fact, the Q4 was the 2nd consecutive quarter of positive comp sales for our UK franchisees. If you'll recall in June, we announced the transition of 118 U. K. Franchise restaurants to company ownership.

Speaker 2

As anticipated, these new company owned UK restaurants were dilutive to 2023 adjusted operating income by approximately $9,000,000 which takes into consideration the restaurant's current year operating loss and the foregone prior year royalties. Similar to the other UK restaurants that transitioned to new owners, we are seeing sequential improvements in the performance of our company owned restaurants. Together, our company owned restaurants and franchise locations in the UK are reporting positive comps to start 2024 and we continue to explore options to maximize the value and cash flow of our UK portfolio, ensuring alignment of the region and its performance with our long term strategy. We have also made the decision to close approximately 50 underperforming company owned restaurants in the second quarter of 2024. These restaurants accounted for roughly 2 thirds of our operating loss in the UK in the 4th quarter.

Speaker 2

We'll continue to evaluate our remaining portfolio as well as our franchisee locations focusing on sales trends, overall profitability and their lease and loan obligations. Through this process, additional strategic closures could occur as we look to drive improved profitability for our remaining stores, optimize trade zones and strengthening our franchisee base within this important market. In this dynamic global environment, our industry is facing challenges from the potential impact of geopolitical events. We are closely monitoring these situations and we'll maintain flexibility with our operations in those impacted regions. We are committed to our international transformational initiatives as we believe they best position us to realize our next phase of global growth and set our largest markets up for long term success.

Speaker 2

Now I'd like to turn the call over to Ravi to cover the financial portion of today's call.

Speaker 3

Ravi? Thank you, Rob, and good morning, everyone. To start, I'd like to echo Rob's sentiments and thank the entire Papa John's system for their focus and commitment to driving forward our strategic priorities during this past year towards our ambition to become the QSR brand of choice for consumers and franchisees around the world. Now for a closer look at our Q4 financial results. Global system wide restaurant sales were $1,340,000,000 up 11% in constant currency from the prior year Q4.

Speaker 3

The increase was largely attributable to the shift in our 2023 fiscal calendar to include a 14th week in the Q4, resulting in approximately 9 percentage points of growth. Outside of the extra week, global system wide sales were up approximately 2% in the quarter driven by new restaurant openings and higher North America comparable sales. Our 2% increase in North America comp sales was a result of increases in transaction and ticket growth for both our domestic company owned restaurants and franchised restaurants. We continue to see higher transactions driven by our aggregator channel, while our ticket growth is supported by the work our teams are doing to enhance customer value perception. International comparable sales decreased approximately 6% in the 4th quarter, of which approximately 4% was related to the ongoing conflict in the Middle East.

Speaker 3

The remaining 2% was the result of continued pressure across multiple markets, somewhat offset by a 1% positive comp performance from our UK franchisees. Total revenue for the Q4 were $571,000,000 up 9% from a year ago. And while the increase was largely driven by the additional week of operations in 2023 and the consolidation of the UK restaurants, we don't want to lose sight of our positive North America comp sales, which also contributed to our revenue growth in the quarter. Now turning to profits. Adjusted operating income for the 4th quarter was $47,000,000 up from $38,000,000 a year ago.

Speaker 3

The key drivers of our 4th quarter growth include a roughly $8,000,000 benefit from the extra week of operations in 2023, an approximate $6,000,000 increase from our domestic company owned restaurants driven by higher sales, lower commodity and labor costs, lower insurance expense related to improving auto and workers' compensation claims experience, leveraging the on demand labor that aggregators provide through their delivery as a service model and a continued focus on cost discipline while still pursuing strategic growth initiatives. This growth was partially offset by an approximate $5,000,000 year over year impact related to our U. K. Acquisition when taking into consideration a Q4 2023 operating loss and a 4th quarter 2022 franchise royalty fees. Higher G and A expenses as anticipated due to higher performance based compensation expense when compared with the Q4 last year and higher G and A expense as we continue to invest in our restaurants and our technology support along with the consolidation of the acquired UK restaurants in 2023.

Speaker 3

Adjusted operating margin for the 4th quarter was 8.3%, up from 7.3% a year ago, largely due to the additional week in 2023. Excluding the additional week, adjusted operating margin was up approximately 20 basis points compared with last year. To provide you a little bit more color on our 4th quarter domestic company owned restaurant level margins. Overall, these margins improved by approximately 330 basis points compared with the prior year Q4 when excluding the 53rd week of operations. Driving the improved margin was approximately 170 basis point benefit from lower food basket costs as we continued to see relief from prior year peaks in proteins, cheese and dough.

Speaker 3

Labor costs also improved by approximately 90 basis points during the quarter as our restaurant teams continue to do an excellent job executing our service and productivity initiatives. Moving on to cash flow and our balance sheet. For fiscal year 2023, net cash provided by operating activities was $193,000,000 up from $118,000,000 a year ago. After deducting $77,000,000 in capital expenditures for the development of new domestic restaurants and investments in technology innovation, we generated free cash flow of $116,000,000 This is up from $39,000,000 generated in 2022, reflecting the positive flow through of our overall business performance and higher accrued expenses. We ended the year with ample liquidity, dollars 277,000,000 in cash and borrowing available under our revolving credit facility and a gross leverage of 3.2 times.

Speaker 3

We also returned significant cash to our shareholders in 2023. In total, we repurchased 2,500,000 shares or $210,000,000 and paid $59,000,000 in cash dividends. We have approximately $90,000,000 remaining for repurchase under our current share repurchase authorization. Our capital structure provides us with substantial operating flexibility. We'll continue to take a disciplined and balanced approach to managing our cash flows, creating shareholder value through a combination of organic growth investments, debt repayments, cash dividends and share repurchases.

Speaker 3

Turning to development. In the Q4, we added 36 net new units in North America, bringing our total North America net new units in 2023 to 57, a more than 50% increase over last year's net new unit growth. We now have 3,430 North America restaurants and we continue to be pleased with the performance of our newly opened restaurants and we will prioritize our North America development efforts. Internationally, we opened 53 net new units in the 4th quarter, bringing our full year international development to 151 net new units and our total international restaurant count to 2,473. Now to our outlook.

Speaker 3

As we look to 2024, we are well positioned to continue driving forward our long term strategy and we expect to deliver our 5th consecutive year of positive North America comp sales growth. However, a more cautious consumer is placing more pressure on transactions through our organic delivery channel even as our domestic third party aggregator sales continue to accelerate. This has led to comps being down approximately 1% for the 1st 8 weeks of the quarter. As we've discussed today, we're excited about the work our teams are doing to leverage our robust consumer data platforms to influence our media, pricing and menu strategies. We continue to take a balanced approach in this environment, providing the right promotions to our value oriented customers without risking the erosion of our brand or pricing integrity on our more premium offerings.

Speaker 3

We have great confidence in our ability to accelerate North America comps in Q2 and the back half of the year. As such, we expect to deliver 2024 full year comps at the lower end of our long term target of 2% to 4% growth. Internationally, I'm pleased to report that quarter to date, we have seen a moderate sequential improvement in international comps. Positive performance at our UK company owned and franchised restaurants, along with solid sales in other international markets are offsetting the impact from the Middle East conflict. We are in a dynamic environment and continue to maintain a cautious outlook on international comps in 2024.

Speaker 3

As a reminder, our international segment is the smallest of our operating segments, generating approximately 12% of our adjusted operating income and approximately 7% of our total revenues in 2023. Currently, we anticipate adjusted operating income in 2024 to be between $153,000,000 $163,000,000 At the midpoint, this is an approximate 6% increase from 2023 when excluding the favorable impact of the 53rd week. Year over year tailwinds include the increase to our fixed commissary margin, our international transformation initiatives including the closure of approximately 50 underperforming company owned UK restaurants in the Q2 and an increase in North America sales as we accelerate development and deliver another year of positive comp sales. Offsetting these tailwinds will be higher G and A expenses as performance based compensation ramps back up and a higher D and A expense, which is expected to be between $70,000,000 $75,000,000 in 2024 resulting from the higher tech investments over the last 3 years. In terms of other non operating expense items, we expect net interest expense to be between $40,000,000 $45,000,000 our capital expenditures to be between $75,000,000 $85,000,000 and our tax rate to be between 23% 26%.

Speaker 3

I should note that our Q1 tax rate will be higher due to an anticipated shortfall from the vesting of long term equity plans resulting in an additional tax expense of roughly $2,000,000 in the quarter when compared with the prior year period. From a development perspective, the North America market is the most attractive development for Papa John's and we remain committed to accelerating our domestic footprint moving forward. In 2024, we expect net new unit growth for North America to increase more than 20% relative to 2023 net unit openings. From an international perspective, over the last two years, conflicts in the Ukraine and the Middle East, combined with an overall dynamic geopolitical environment, has changed our run rate of new international restaurant openings for 2024. As a result, we are taking a cautious approach and expect gross openings between 101 140 new international restaurants.

Speaker 3

We will also not hesitate to make additional strategic restaurant closures to improve marketplace health or exit unprofitable restaurants. As such, our anticipated openings could be offset by the closure of underperforming company owned and franchised restaurants to enhance long term profitability. Over the long term, we have great partners who want to grow and are committed to reaching our long term development targets of 5% to 7% net new units annually. In summary, the Papa John's team has delivered a solid Q4 and full year 2023. We're focused on executing our long term growth strategy and implementing our Back to Better 2.0 and international transformation initiatives.

Speaker 3

I'm proud of the Papa John's teams and our strategic plans to deliver growth. Now I'll turn the call back over to Rob for some final comments. Rob? Thank you, Robbie.

Speaker 2

At Papa John's commitment to our values is top of mind and we are steadfast in creating and nurturing a culture of putting people first. Capping off an incredible year, we were recognized by Forbes on their list of World's Best Employers for the 2nd year running, while also included in the Forbes list of best employers for diversity ranking 1st among pizza companies. As we continue to advance our strategic priority of building a culture of leaders who believe in diversity, inclusivity and winning, we will continue to support our communities, team members and franchisees. I am incredibly proud of the work that the entire Papa John's system is doing to drive forward our strategic long term plan. Our North America business is primed for growth as we execute on our Back to Better 2.0 initiatives.

Speaker 2

We are continuing to expand our share within the domestic third party aggregator delivery channel. We are introducing new menu innovations and we are optimizing our profitability by leveraging our robust consumer data platforms. Additionally, our improving supply chain productivity and accelerating North America development will deliver improved bottom line economics system wide. In summary, Papa John's has proven that its business fundamentals perform well through all economic cycles. Our leadership team has the experience and vision required to move our company forward and drive results.

Speaker 2

Our brand equity is stronger than ever and our brand awareness continues to grow globally. We have ample development opportunities to drive sustainable, profitable expansion and significant earnings potential. All this means that we are well positioned to deliver shareholder value for the long term. At this point, I would like to open up the call for questions. Thank

Operator

you. And our first question coming from the line of Sara Senatore from Bank of America. Your line is open.

Speaker 4

Thank you. Just a quick clarification and then a question. You mentioned that aggregator sales grew more than 50% year over year in the quarter. And I think given what you said about quarter to date in the Q1, it sounds like that gap remains pretty wide with your proprietary channels. I think you were sort of suggesting that it's a response maybe to more promotional intensity in that may be affecting the proprietary channels and perhaps less so the aggregator.

Speaker 4

So I just I wanted to make sure I understood that correctly. And then the question was about international unit growth. To what extent is the Middle East the primary driver? I think it's a relatively small share of your total international store base versus perhaps what you're seeing in other markets and the extent to which those are more market specific? Thanks.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Sarah. So what I would tell you is that and I think we stated this in the past that about right now the aggregator channels we believe to be about 50% incremental to our core channel. So, 50% of that growth would be coming from our core business. Obviously, we have initiatives in place to try to mitigate any of that shift in volume from our core business to the aggregators. So it's not a one for one transfer, but 50% of the aggregator volume comes from our core channels.

Speaker 2

And in regards to the Middle East, the Middle East has actually become a bigger part of our international footprint. We have about 2,400 units internationally and the Middle East represents about 450 of those units. So it's become about 25% or I'm sorry, about 20% of our international footprint. And so and it is one of our fastest growing developing regions. And so we did see a pretty significant impact in Q4 to our global development number.

Speaker 2

And that did definitely impact that number in 2023. We had 68 new units in that region in 2022 alone. So it is something we're watching closely. We have great franchisees there. They have built and been excited about building and have rapidly grown their development agreements in the region.

Speaker 2

So it is something we're watching closely and we'll have a short term impact as called out in the call on the 2024 numbers.

Speaker 4

Thank you very much.

Operator

Thank you. One moment for next question. And our next question coming from the line of Petersen with BTIG. Your line is open.

Speaker 5

Yes, great. Thanks. So I was hoping maybe you guys could elaborate a little bit on the same store sales trends that you're currently seeing. It seems like you guys ended the year on a positive note, but starting the year on a negative note, but we're also seeing some strength in that aggregator channel. So I mean maybe just coming back a little bit more to Sarah's question, can you just give us a little bit more color on the same store sales and maybe what's changed quarter to date?

Speaker 5

Thanks.

Speaker 2

Yes. I mean, I think the consumer has changed a little bit. I think we're seeing some softness in general in the industry, particularly in January. We have seen some strength in February. We were the number 3 brand ordered on Uber Eats for the Super Bowl.

Speaker 2

So despite some challenging situations in January, we've seen some resiliency. But what I will tell you, Peter, is we always knew that Q1 was going to be our toughest quarter coming into this year. All of the things, all of the plans that we have built to deliver strong comp sales growth this year really take effect in Q2. So we're about 4 weeks away from 20% increase in media, a new advertising campaign hitting and we've got a great new innovation coming in April as well. So and those impacts are going to sustain through the balance of the year.

Speaker 2

So we are really excited about Q2, 3 and 4 because of all the Back to Better 2.0 things that we announced back in January. So we definitely see strong sales momentum looking forward despite a little bit of a soft start here in January.

Speaker 5

Thank you.

Speaker 2

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. And our next question coming from the line of Lauren Silverman from Deutsche Bank. Your line is open.

Speaker 4

Thank you very much. I wanted to ask about the recently announced new development incentives in the U. S. Can you just talk about your early conversations with franchisees, any inflection and inquiries, commitments, franchisees trying to pull forward openings into 2024? Thank you very much.

Speaker 2

Yes. There's definitely a lot of excitement. We've had a lot of conversations. Last year in 2023, we delivered 57 net new units in North America. We're going to grow that by at least 20% in 2024.

Speaker 2

But we're working diligently with our franchisees to help them accelerate. That being said, we also have extended that development incentive into 2025 at this point. It's not exactly the same. If they get them built in 2024, it's 5 years of National Marketing Fund Relief. If they get them built in 2025, it's 3 years of relief.

Speaker 2

So we wanted to make sure that all of the franchisees that are coming to us saying, hey, I want to take advantage of this, but I'm not far enough into the development cycle that these stores might move into Q1 next year. We want to make sure that they had some incentive to do that. So we're definitely seeing excitement. We're definitely leveraging that incentive. But I will tell you beyond the incentive, Papa John's is set up for long term development growth.

Speaker 2

It's not just 2024 and 2025. We're really trying to kick start this engine, but we have great returns on new store development. Our AUVs have gone up from $850,000 to on average $1,200,000 over the last 5 years. So, at the same time, we've been really good about managing restaurant profitability as evidenced by 3.30 basis points of year over year growth in our restaurant margins in Q4. So, this incentive is definitely a trigger, but this isn't the reason why people are going to develop Papa John's.

Speaker 2

They're going to develop Papa John's because it's a long term commitment, 10, 20 year cycles of business that they believe will continue to deliver returns far into the future beyond these incentives.

Speaker 4

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question coming from the line of Brian Bednar with Oppenheimer. Your line is open.

Speaker 6

Thanks. Good morning. You announced today that you will be closing 50 of the U. K. Company operated units.

Speaker 6

But at the same time, you gave some positive commentary on trends in the UK, sequentially improving trends, comps are positive. So arguably a better UK outlook. So are these restaurants you're closing? Are they just in your mind kind of a lost cause? Or can you help us understand the decision to close these stores rather than continue to try and get the benefits that comes from turning them around?

Speaker 2

Yes, for sure. Thank you for the question, Brian. The UK has been something that has been a better labor of love over the last 18 months. We believe in the long term viability of that market. We have great franchisees who are running great operations.

Speaker 2

But we also have we've also had some stores that have not been operated as well. And so that's both in the company portfolio that we took over as well as in the franchisee base at large. So as we stated earlier, we have been working over the last year to get a lot of the restaurants that we see having long term potential, but maybe not operated in the most effective way transition from their former franchisees to new franchisees that are in the or current franchisees in the system that run better operations. And we've seen a lot of benefit in those restaurants and improvement both on the top and bottom line from those transitions. The 50 restaurants that we're talking about closing are company stores that we believe will not benefit simply from better operations.

Speaker 2

They have locations where the trade zones have moved or other challenges that frankly will not be easily mitigated to get them to profitability. So we will still own about 68 restaurants in that market. Our objective is to continue to optimize that portfolio, which may include refranchising some of those restaurants to great franchisees. But the ones that we're closing, yes, exactly what you said, those are restaurants that aren't going to be able to get the profitability anytime soon and hence our decision to close those.

Speaker 7

Okay. Thank you.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Brian.

Operator

Thank you. And our next question coming from the line of Eric Gonzalez with KeyBanc. Your line is open.

Speaker 3

Thanks. Good morning. I have a

Speaker 8

2 part question, if I may. And it's on the back of Better 2.0 initiative. You've made it clear that national advertising is significantly more efficient than regional or local. But I think there is some skepticism out there about the impact of going from 8% to 6%. So is there anything you could tell us to reassure investors that the incremental point of national can more than offset those two points that you're giving up on the local side?

Speaker 8

That's the first part. And the second part is in your conversations with your franchisees, do you get the sense that they're going to abandon the local marketing entirely? Or do you think that the majority will keep spending at or near the prior year levels? I would think that in year 1 of the program where the commissary commission is just starting to be phased in at the higher rates, that the majority of operators will continue to spend the local markets. Is there any way that you can maybe quantify the net effect of all this?

Speaker 2

Yes, great question. What I would say is that there's a lot more consistency on the returns on advertising spend at the national level than there are at the local level. Some franchisees were able to invest their local dollars in productive ways. A lot of franchisees were not using those dollars as productively. And not necessarily because they chose not to, it's just because the funds were not at a scale where they could buy media in their markets that was as productive and efficient as we can buy at the national level.

Speaker 2

So when we look at the return on advertising spend, we're seeing over a 25% improvement at the national level versus the local level. So if you think about it, net net, if we were comparing apples to apples, we're reducing the total advertising investment by about 25% and you're getting a 25% pickup on that. So that's why we think it's at least comparable. But then when you layer in the tools that we have just developed with our we brought on a new media partner who is working with us to develop better analytical tools that allow us to target more efficiently, it'll allow us to deploy media more efficiently, all of that at the national level will become more effective than those ROIs that we have evaluated in the past. So we have a lot of confidence that despite going from 8 to 6, we're going to see significant improvement and impact of that 6%.

Speaker 2

On your second question or I'll say the second part of the first question because we're only allowing one question, you know that. We do believe that some franchisees will continue to spend above that 6% level, especially in the 1st 2 years, primarily because they have entered into agreements with local sports teams in their markets that they are contractually obligated to continue with. But I see some of our franchisees and frankly some of our company markets that we own, we will continue to spend at higher than 6% levels because of those partnerships. I'll give you an example. Here in Atlanta, we are partners with the Braves and the Hawks and we activate with them and we see great returns when we do that.

Speaker 2

So we will continue to invest in those partnerships. And I think our franchisees who leverage those types of partnerships in their markets will continue to invest as well.

Speaker 3

Thank you. Sure.

Operator

Thank you. And our next question coming from the line of Brian Mullen with Piper Sandler. Your line is open.

Speaker 9

Thank you. Just a follow-up on the UK business. As you go through this strategic restructuring process, which Rob, I think you said you might refranchise the remaining 68 company owned stores. But I'm just wondering what happens to the commissary business over there. Is that something you want to continue to own longer term?

Speaker 9

Is it important strategically for you to own it? Just any thoughts on that part of the business?

Speaker 2

It is not important for us to strategically own it. There are business models that we are exploring that would look very different than the model that we employ today. We have been very happy with our ownership there. Our teams who run the supply chain do a great job and manage it very effectively and productively. So we're happy with that.

Speaker 2

But we're exploring every strategic option. And if we have opportunities to create more productivity and drive more profitability with less risk, we will definitely explore those opportunities. The closure of these restaurants, I just want to make it clear, the closure of these 50 restaurants will be immediately accretive to our income. I mean, mean usually when you close restaurants, it's a bad thing. The royalty revenues go away or the EBITDA from the restaurants go away.

Speaker 2

These are all negative profit restaurants. And to Brian's question, we don't see them turning profitable in the foreseeable future. So these restaurants need to close. They're low volume obviously, if they're unprofitable, they're low volume profitable productive restaurants. The other thing I just want to make clear, we do anticipate sales transfer.

Speaker 2

So by closing these restaurants, we actually make the other restaurants in the UK system higher volume and more profitable. So there is a benefit to the balance of the system and some of that volume loss from closing these restaurants will be mitigated by that sales Thank you. And

Operator

Thank you. And our next question coming from the line of Todd Brooks with The Benchmark Company. Your line is open.

Speaker 7

Hey, good morning. Thanks for taking my question. Rob, you highlighted at the start of your remarks this morning that product innovation has been at the heart of the success that you've driven. And I know there's a lot of focus on Back to Better 2.0 as we're looking to 'twenty four. But can you talk to innovation pipeline and if 2024 setting up as more of a product line extension year on existing offerings or are there some novel platforms or products coming down the line that you think could be needle movers as well?

Speaker 7

Thanks.

Speaker 2

Thank you. Yes, so when I think of I'll speak to your specific question around product innovation. But when I think of innovation, I think about innovation across all of our demand driving capabilities. So product, loyalty, marketing, we've already talked a lot about marketing and the advancements that we're making through our more efficient media capabilities and targeting capabilities. And the innovation and our brand positioning as we launch our new campaign with the Martin Agency.

Speaker 2

Another one I'll talk about is loyalty. Our loyalty program has been very effective for us over the last, 5 years. We've gone from 12 members to over 32,000,000 members in 5 years. But it's not just the sheer number, it's the way we've leveraged the platform, both to deliver incentives to our most valuable customers, but also to create a sense of hospitality with our brand to make sure that people feel special when they come to our organic channels. I mean, we do things like grant early access to our new product innovations and give them access to Papa John's gear for our favorite fans and different surprise and delight things that we do for those loyalty members.

Speaker 2

We can get better at that. We are currently working to drive some optimization into our loyalty platform to enhance both the hospitality component that it provides, but and also the incentive component and how we manage our Papa Joe and the incentives. So there's a lot of innovation on the marketing side, the loyalty side. On the product innovation side, we've been very innovative over the last 3 years. We've launched things like Papa Diaz, we launched things like Papa Bites.

Speaker 2

It's been a challenge for us to really advertise those great things. Our customers tell us that they love it, but in this business you have to make sure you're advertising pizza, otherwise you take a lot of check degradation. So we're going to get innovative even on how we promote our products. We are going to launch in April with a new innovation that we will be sharing here shortly, but that innovation will be across multiple platforms. It will be across pizza, it will be across Papadias and it will be across our bites.

Speaker 2

And we will advertise those holistically. So we're creating awareness of other products that we have that have less household penetration, less attachment than our core pizza. So it's not even just the unique ingredients that we're creating innovation around, it's how we're promoting things, how we're driving our entire holistic menu to drive both drive our pizza business, but also drive our attachment. So yes, we do have new platforms coming and we also have new ways in which we're going to advertise and create awareness of those platforms.

Speaker 7

That's great. Thanks, Rob.

Speaker 2

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. And our next question coming from the line of Alexander Slagle with Jefferies.

Speaker 3

Hey, thanks. Good morning. Just wanted to

Speaker 10

ask on the international development piece and the slowdown that you see in 2024 and I know a lot of that has to do with specific challenges in the UK and Middle East. But trying to think about how quickly things could re accelerate into 2025. I mean, obviously, a lot of different scenarios for those markets. But are there other regions that you think could sort of be an acceleration in growth to help sort of bring that international gross development number back up over 200 like kind of where you had been or do you anticipate a longer period of time to get that back up? Just trying to get a sense for how quickly things can pivot back on that front?

Speaker 2

So great question, Alex. What I would tell you is that and I'll get to your specific question, but we are hyper focused in 2024 on our domestic development business. So when you ask about where the upside is to maybe close some of that gap, I'm hopeful that that upside is domestic. And I want to make sure that we have been as transparent as possible and letting everyone know that one domestic restaurant opening is equivalent to 4 international openings, okay? So we our royalty rates internationally are typically lower because of our master franchisee agreements than they are domestically.

Speaker 2

And our AUVs are about half the size on average. So, this everything that we're doing right now around Back to Better 2.0, driving this development incentive, we've rebuilt our internal development team across construction, real estate, administration, every facet of the development pipeline is really to get this domestic development engine rolling. And there will be a huge amount of value creation over the next 5 years from doing that, okay? So I just want to make that point. Then to speak directly to your international question, there's really 3 markets that are impacting our openings over the next couple of years.

Speaker 2

One is the UK. The U. K. Has been a strong development market for us. We've been opening about 50 units a year in the U.

Speaker 2

K. For the last couple of years. The problem is those restaurants haven't always been the best restaurants, hence why we're choosing to close some of them. We have moved away from a strategy of open restaurants at all costs and give franchisees the ability to open restaurants at all costs. We are making sure that the restaurants that are opening moving forward internationally are looked at with the same scrutiny that we have domestically.

Speaker 2

If someone submits a site domestically, we go out and check the site, make sure it's a good site. We do all the analytics to make sure that this restaurant has the greatest chance and probability of success. We haven't been as disciplined internationally. So we are implementing those capabilities and that oversight. That's why we put 3 business units, built 3 business units in the regions where we want to grow to be able to give some of that, infrastructure and support to these markets.

Speaker 2

So the UK, Russia and the Middle East are the 3 markets where we have been really successful at developing over the last 5 years and have been impacted over the last couple of years and more recently in the Middle East. So those are the openings challenges. But this number that we put out today is really a function more of closures than it is a lack of openings. We are closing. We are strategically closing these 50 units.

Speaker 2

That takes the number down from our run rate right out of the gate. And then we're also working with franchisees to help them optimize their portfolio of restaurants. If franchisees are spending resources running restaurants that are never going to be profitable, that's taking away the resources from the restaurants that they should be focused on growing and building new restaurants that can perform better than the sub optimized restaurants that are already operating. So we have baked in strategic closures globally into that number that we shared today. So once we get through that optimization of the global footprint and assuming that some of the geopolitical and macroeconomic situations change, we have every belief and confidence in our long term international growth rate and development.

Speaker 3

Great. Thanks for that.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Alex.

Operator

Thank you. And our next question coming from the line of Andrew Strelzik with BMO Capital Markets. Your line is open.

Speaker 8

Hey, good morning. Thanks for taking the question. I just had a clarification and then a question. On the acceleration in or the increase in U. S.

Speaker 8

Opens, is that growth going to be back halfway given the timing of the incentives and build times and things like that? So that's just a clarification. And then my question is about the international transformation initiative. You talked about the hubs, U. K.

Speaker 8

Optimization. I'm just curious what's next on the checklist within that transformation or what are the next milestones kind of thinking maybe more from an operational perspective than the footprint? Thanks.

Speaker 2

Great questions. I mean development is always kind of back half weighted. Q4 is always the biggest development quarter. So that is that's kind of the normal cycle of development. That being said, yes, I would expect that the upside potential of the development incentives that we put out there would come to fruition later in the year given the if they're just starting some of these projects in Q1, it's going to take 7 to 9 months for those to come to fruition.

Speaker 2

So yes, is the answer. On the international side, building these teams, we still have markets internationally that don't have digital ordering. I mean that's every market and every restaurant, every market globally does not look like the Papa John's model that you see here in the U. S. There are markets that aren't some markets use aggregators at scale almost exclusively, some markets have really not yet tapped into the aggregator model.

Speaker 2

Some markets have not been leveraging product innovation to drive their business. There's a lot of different things. These hubs that we've built in APAC, EMEA and Latin America will be will all have marketing, technology and operational resources, to guide their future path and drive not just new store development, but profit comp and profit growth in the stores that already exist. I mean, if we were able to increase the international AUVs just to 75% or 80% of what we have in the U. S, I mean, the amount of income growth for our franchisees and royalty growth for us would be worth 2 to 3 years of new store development.

Speaker 2

So we really fundamentally believe that, we can help these franchisees significantly accelerate their comp and profit growth through the investments we're making in these regional hubs.

Operator

Thank you. And our next question coming from the line of Dennis Geiger with UBS. Your line is open.

Speaker 8

Great. Thank you. Rob, I was wondering if you could talk a little bit more about your comment on the consumer changing a bit as the calendar turned. And certainly, we've heard this from others this earnings season. But can you highlight anything more on what that means and what you've observed with your customer, whether it's ordering or spending patterns?

Speaker 8

And more importantly on that, you talked to the barbell strategy, but can you speak a little more to your value efforts, maybe where value scores are and sort of how you're thinking about promos and value in what looks like an increasingly promotional category right now? Thank you.

Speaker 2

No, it's a great question, Dennis, and I think you nailed it. We have seen across this industry and across retail and across a lot of industries, just a little bit of consumer spending softness. I don't think it surprises any of us given where the credit cards are at and some of the other macroeconomic dynamics at play. That being said, I have continued to reinforce and it's based on historical data that our segment of this industry is well positioned to persevere and grow through tough challenging consumer and economic times. I mean that's what we've seen in the past.

Speaker 2

We being pizza offer an amazing value relative to the other segments of the industry, whether it's fine whether it's dine in or other QSR. And I would argue that the gap has never been greater. I think that pizza in general has taken less pricing than a lot of the other QSR segments. And I think as we if we believe that there is going to be some consumer challenges over the mid to long term, pizza is going to benefit from that. And so we have definitely worked really hard to balance that barbell of premium and value heading into 2024.

Speaker 2

And as evidenced by right now, we're running a national promotion, which is $8.99 large one topping, which is the hottest deal we have run since I came to Papa John's. We've never done anything like that. And so we've got a competitive category. Value prop out there. Low carryout special and other specials on our menu, but we've never nationally promoted them.

Speaker 2

So we've done that the last couple of weeks and to battle for those transactions. But we're not moving away from our strategy. I've always said we can't beat our competitors by trying to be our competitors. So we will continue to deliver premium innovation that balances out the other side of that barbell, while we continue to evaluate our need and desire to launch to fight for that value customer as well. So I feel like we've got a balanced strategy moving forward.

Speaker 2

I feel like we've been very competitive in Q1. And like I said earlier in the call, the full force of Back to Better 2.0 marketing initiatives, new agency, new media, 20% increase in national investment, all hits in Q2. So and that continues throughout the balance of the year. So I think we're going to be right there being able to continue to be very competitive in this marketplace as regardless of what the macroeconomic environment looks like.

Operator

Thank you. And ladies and gentlemen, that's all the time we have

Speaker 2

Well, thanks everyone for your time this morning and for your continued interest in Papa John's. I think as you can see, we have continued to persevere through some challenging international environments. We have shifted some of our focus to driving our very profitable and accretive domestic development. And we're very excited about the balance of 2024 and seeing the impact of the marketing and product initiatives that we have underway. So I look forward to speaking with you at our Annual Meeting of Shareholders on May 2 and then sharing our Q1 2024 results with you as well.

Speaker 2

I'd also like to take this opportunity to thank our team members and franchisees. They continue to show unbelievable resiliency and agility during these unique times. So thank you everyone.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, that does conclude our conference for today. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.

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