NYSE:ESS Essex Property Trust Q4 2023 Earnings Report $275.50 -1.10 (-0.40%) Closing price 04/25/2025 03:59 PM EasternExtended Trading$274.90 -0.60 (-0.22%) As of 04/25/2025 05:21 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. Earnings HistoryForecast Essex Property Trust EPS ResultsActual EPSN/AConsensus EPS $3.81Beat/MissN/AOne Year Ago EPS$3.77Essex Property Trust Revenue ResultsActual RevenueN/AExpected Revenue$419.68 millionBeat/MissN/AYoY Revenue GrowthN/AEssex Property Trust Announcement DetailsQuarterQ4 2023Date2/5/2024TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateWednesday, February 7, 2024Conference Call Time2:00PM ETConference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Annual Report (10-K)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Essex Property Trust Q4 2023 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrFebruary 7, 2024 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 17 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good day, and welcome to the Essex Property Trust 4th Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. As a reminder, today's conference call is being recorded. Statements made on this conference call regarding expected operating results and other future events are forward looking statements that involve risks and uncertainties. Forward looking statements are made based on current expectations, assumptions and beliefs as well as information available to the company at this time. A number of factors could cause actual results to differ materially from those anticipated. Operator00:00:32Further information about these risks can be found on the company's filings with the SEC. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Ms. Angela Clyman, President and Chief Executive Officer for Essex Property Trust. Thank you, Ms. Clyman. Operator00:00:44You may begin. Speaker 100:00:46Good morning and thank you for joining Essex's 4th Quarter Earnings Call. Barb Hack will follow with prepared remarks. Rylan Burns and Jessica Anderson are here for Q and A. I will start with the key highlights of our 2023 performance, then discuss our expectations for 2024, followed by comments on the transaction market and our investment strategy. Overall, 2023 was a solid year for Essex. Speaker 100:01:12We achieved a 4.4% same property revenue growth for the full year, which is in line with our revised guidance and 40 basis points higher than the original midpoint. Furthermore, we made progress in reducing delinquency as a percentage of rent from over 2% in the first quarter down to 1.4% by year end. These are the results of the well coordinated efforts of our hard working operations and support teams across the company. Great job, team, and thank you. Lastly, we continue to drive results to the bottom line, delivering a 3.6% year over year increase in core FFO per share, exceeding the high end of our original guidance range by 0 point 0 $6 Turning to the 4th quarter. Speaker 100:01:58We deployed an occupancy strategy as market rents moderated generally consistent with typical seasonal pattern. In addition, We recovered a significant number of delinquent units starting in October. As expected, the subsequent backfilling of non paying units during a seasonally slow period created a temporary headwind to net effective new lease rates, which averaged negative 1.7% for the quarter. On the renewal front, the positive trend continues with strong retention among our residents, generating an increase in renewal rates of 4.9% for the quarter, resulting in blended rates of positive 2.6%. As we start 2024, leasing activities in our markets is steady. Speaker 100:02:45In January, new lease net effective rates improved by 150 basis points and concession usage decreased by half since the 4th quarter. And our financial occupancy sits in a solid position of 96.2%. Moving on to our outlook for the West Coast in 2024 as outlined in our earnings We expect the U. S. Economy and job growth to normalize in 2024 consistent with economists' outlook of a soft landing. Speaker 100:03:14We forecast job growth on the West Coast to perform in line with the national average on the Essex markets to produce market rent growth of 1.25% on average. The consensus macroeconomic U. S. Assumptions and the quality of jobs are key considerations to our modest outlook. In 2023, the employment growth was largely concentrated in the service sectors, which do not yield meaningful rent growth. Speaker 100:03:39We expect this dynamic to continue and we currently assume hiring of highly skilled workers to remain muted as companies continue to evaluate their labor needs priorities. While our base case scenario for 2024 reflect Tempur's growth, there are Several factors that could support a more positive outcome. 1st, inflation could continue to move in the right direction, increasing the likelihood that the reaccelerate as cost of capital becomes more attractive. 2nd, the large technology companies implemented significant business and labor at the end of 2022 through the early part of last year. Therefore, these companies are better equipped today to lead advancements and stimulate growth. Speaker 100:04:32To this point, recent layoff announcements have been much smaller in scale with companies citing larger strategic plans to redirect talent and investments toward artificial intelligence projects, which we view as a long term benefit for the West Coast. With low levels of housing supply in our markets, a modest increase in demand could accelerate rent growth. Despite uncertainties in the overall economy, we are confident in our market's ability to navigate near term volatility and to outperform in the long term. Our conviction is based on 2 fundamental factors, low housing supply and favorable affordability. Over the next 2 years, we expect less than 1% of total supply growth per annum, which enables us to generate positive rent growth in most environments. Speaker 100:05:19Also renting in the Essex markets is considerably more affordable than owning a home and favorable rent to income ratios support a long runway for rent growth, especially in our northern regions. As such, we expect the economic incentive to rent to persist and drive demand for multifamily housing. Lastly, on the investment market and our strategy. 2023 was a year of historically low transaction volume, primarily due to significant volatility in the capital markets. Although we've seen interest rates decline throughout the 4th quarter, Yield spread between buyers and sellers remain wide ranging from approximately 25 to 50 basis points in our markets And thus, we are not anticipating a significant increase in deal volume in the near term. Speaker 100:06:07Lenders have generally been accommodating to sponsors, Expanding debt maturities when feasible and there are very few forced sellers in our markets currently. Given the dearth of data points, there is less uncertainty in the transaction market. It is during periods of uncertainty that assets has historically created significant value for our shareholders through external growth. As such, our investment team is proactively looking for acquisition opportunities to generate the best risk adjusted returns. We expect Essex disciplined approach to capital allocation, strong balance sheet and deep market expertise will be key differentiators in creating long term value. Speaker 100:06:47With that, I'll turn the Speaker 200:06:48call over to Barb. Thanks, Angela. Today, I will discuss the key assumptions to our 2024 guidance and provide an update on the balance sheet. Beginning with our outlook for 2024, a key factor to our revenue forecast is our market rent growth assumption. As Angela mentioned, the economic backdrop is expected to be muted this year, which is leading to below average rent growth for our markets. Speaker 200:07:14As a result, same property revenue growth is tempered at 1.7% at the midpoint on a cash basis. The key drivers of our revenue growth are outlined on Page 17.1 of the supplemental. Our guidance assumes delinquency of 1.5% of scheduled rents for the full year, which represents a 40 basis points improvement to year over year revenue growth. We expect delinquency will gradually improve as we move through the year. In terms of regional performance, we expect Southern California will produce our highest revenue growth at 3%, led by Orange County and San Diego. Speaker 200:07:51Northern California will be around 1% and Seattle will be our weakest performing region, which is forecasted to be flat on a year over year basis. Moving to operating expenses. We are projecting 4.25% growth for the full year, which is largely driven by higher insurance costs. Although insurance costs accounts for a small portion of our total operating expenses, we are forecasting a 30% increase in our premiums, which adds 1.4% to our total same property expense growth. The company remains focused on managing controllable expenses, which we are forecasting to increase 3% in 2024, primarily driven by higher wages. Speaker 200:08:34In total, we expect same property NOI growth of 60 basis points and core FFO per share growth to be flat at the midpoint compared to 2023. Core FFO growth would be over 1% higher if not for the impact from 2 items related to our preferred equity platform. First, in December, we received $40,000,000 in redemption proceeds and we are forecasting an additional $100,000,000 in redemption proceeds this year. We anticipate redeploying the funds into new acquisitions, which tempers our near term FFO growth, but is the best long term capital allocation decision for Essex. 2nd, while our sponsors remain current on all financial obligations with the senior lenders, we changed the accrual status on 2 investments in the 4th quarter based on current market conditions. Speaker 200:09:24Further, we've taken a prudent approach as to how we projected income for the remainder of the as part of our 2024 guidance. We will continue to evaluate the accrual status on each of our preferred equity investments every quarter as appropriate. Turning to the balance sheet. Essex is in a strong financial position with minimal financing needs over the next 12 months and ample sources of capital. Our leverage levels are solid with net debt to EBITDA at 5.4x and we have over 1.6 of liquidity available to us. Speaker 200:09:57We manage our balance sheet and capital needs conservatively to be well positioned to create value throughout the cycle And we remain optimistic we will see opportunities to invest this year. With that, I will now turn the call back to the operator for questions. Operator00:10:13Thank you. We'll now be conducting a question and answer Our first question is from Austin Wurschmidt with KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 300:10:51Great, thanks. Just digging into guidance here. Can you share what your assumptions are for new and renewal lease rate growth are relative to the 1.25 market rent growth Assumed and kind of how you're thinking about the cadence of that through the year? Speaker 200:11:05Hi, Austin. It's Barb. Yes. So we're assuming 1.25% for new lease growth. And renewals, we expect to be slightly above that at 1.75%. Speaker 200:11:17We do expect renewal growth will be in the first half of the year be above 2% in the low 2% range and then drift down to our market rent growth assumption of 1.25 in the back half of the year. Speaker 300:11:33I guess just following quickly up on that, what's driving that really tight spread? Are there concessions burning off or anything that's impacting, I guess the spread between new and renewal lease rates assumed in your guidance? Speaker 200:11:49Yes. So I think if you look at January, you'll see we printed 4 point percent on new leases or renewals, but 50% of that is a burn off of concessions. And so it's not really market rent, new market rent growth. And I would say our philosophy on renewals is not to push them above market. We do like to we want to price appropriately. Speaker 200:12:11And last year in 2023, we didn't have a significant loss to lease. And so we don't have a big spread differential between our new and renewals from last year that would carry forward into this year. So we think it's priced appropriately. Speaker 300:12:27And then if I can just sneak in one more. I recognize you guys report financial occupancy, but could you break out the impact from guidance around change and then impact from concessions and maybe what market rent growth would look like on a net effective basis if you included the concession impact there? Thank you. Speaker 200:12:46Yes. So the concession piece on the occupancy and concessions, we expect concessions to be a 0 point our 10 basis point headwind to our forecast this year, occupancy to be 20 basis points. So we're forecasting 96.2% for occupancy. So we don't expect concessions to have a material impact to the forecast this year on a year over year basis. Operator00:13:09Thank you. Our next question is from Steve Sakwa with Evercore ISI. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 400:13:15Yes, thanks. I guess good morning out there. I noticed on the delinquency slide, I guess it's There was a big jump up in the delinquencies between the Q4 and January. And I know you talked about that overall trend getting better for the full year, I think to the tune of 40 basis points, but just what color can you provide in January that showed that big pop? Speaker 200:13:40Hi, Steve, it's Barb. Yes, this January talk we've seen for several years now. It's the post holiday. I think people are paying off their credit cards and whatnot. So it's not something that we're overly concerned about. Speaker 200:13:55We're monitoring it closely, but we have seen this last year. If you go back and you look at our supplemental, we saw 190 basis points increase from Q4 to January. This year, we're up 80%. So it is a lot lower than we were a year ago, but we're monitoring it. Speaker 400:14:17Okay. And then just I guess maybe On the DC or your, I guess, your pref book, I mean, just as you've kind of gone through and scrubbed sort of some of the things you talked about, Couple of the underwriting changes, like just what risk do you sort of see out there on the kind of roughly $500,000,000 you've got outstanding? And I guess, how are you sort of handicapping that in terms of any future write offs? Speaker 200:14:47Yes, Steve, this is Barb. We take a prudent approach when we look at this. And there's a variety of factors that we look at When we're looking at our preferred book, where are we? Where's our last dollar sit relative to the market today? What are what's the maturity of our investments and how much time do we have for the market to recover? Speaker 200:15:10And really, what is our sponsors doing? Are they continuing to equity and can they continue to fund. So those are the factors that we're looking at. I think we have fully handicapped the issues that we see today based on current conditions within our guidance. It's a few assets we're monitoring, but for the most part, the book is performing as we expected. Speaker 400:15:35Great. Thanks. That's it for me. Operator00:15:39Our next is from Nick Yulico with Scotiabank. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 500:15:44Hey, it's Daniel for Carrickville on for Nick. Barb, with respect to the improvement in new lease rate growth in January, which markets were the largest drivers of that change? And I know you mentioned the 50 basis point improvement from Concession burn off, but is the general market improvement largely in line with typical seasonality? Speaker 600:16:04This is Jessica. I'll take that. With regards to the largest driver of the sequential improvement from Q4 to January was 150 basis points. We saw the greatest improvement in Northern California and the Bay Area. And a large part of that was concession burn off. Speaker 600:16:24For the total portfolio, if you break down the 150 basis point improvement, 100 basis points of it is the improvement in concession. So we were averaging 1 week in Q4 and that's a half a week for January. And then the other part of it, 50 basis points is attributed to rent growth, which is typical with what we would expect this time of year historically. Speaker 500:16:48Great. Thank you. Angela, follow-up. How are you thinking about recycling capital from your future pref equity redemptions into acquisitions or another use. You talked about optimism, I believe, in your opening remarks around a growing opportunity set. Speaker 500:17:02Are you seeing anything specific in the market today? And I guess along the same lines, how are your JV partners thinking about deploying new capital into acquisitions today? Speaker 100:17:13Yes, that's a good question. As far as how we're viewing investments and let me just give you a quick background on our preface equity book. The investment thesis for this vehicle was intended to complement development pipeline during a period when yields and interest rates were low and construction costs were accelerating at a significant higher rate than rent growth. So you saw us leaning into this business when the 10 year fell to historical low and in that environment a 12% yield was relatively more attractive. The general market environment and the interest rate conditions today are very different. Speaker 100:17:55And so we view that there's more upside to rent growth in our markets over the long run. So the relative value is more compelling to focus on fee simple acquisitions. So it doesn't mean that we're shrinking the preferred equity book intentionally, but rather that this book will probably drift lower as we look to acquisitions as a way to grow the company. And The reason is because if you look at the fundamentals in our market, it all speaks to more upside, relatively speaking from rent growth. So especially in our northern region, we have much lower supply. Speaker 100:18:35Affordability metrics is in the best position we've seen since we started tracking this metric historically. And there's the rent has yet to recover, so it's still in the recovery phase. And lastly, there is demand optionality. I mean, if you look at the composition of the companies in our markets, the 7th Largest 7 out of 10 largest companies are located in our markets and these are companies that have tremendous amount of wealth and looking and have committed to infrastructure and investment deployments. And so If you look at all the building blocks, it's there and it's ripe for acceleration once the economy shifts from a soft economy to a growth economy. Speaker 100:19:31And on the IRRs, Rylin, you want to talk about the IRRs? Speaker 700:19:34Yes. At a high level, I mean, we have several joint venture We've been in this business for a long time that remain committed to us and our investment thesis along the West Coast. So There is demand there if we see the right opportunities and we would expect we will see some opportunities in the next year or 2. Speaker 800:19:55All right. Thanks for the time, guys. Operator00:19:59Our next question is from Eric Wolf with Citi. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 900:20:05Hey, thanks. I think you just mentioned that you saw the largest improvement in Northern California between 4Q and January and your peer just mentioned something similar on their call a moment ago. So I was just curious why you think you'll sort of see this muted rent growth environment throughout the year in Northern California, if you're already starting to see signs of a recovery during the sort of seasonally weak period? Speaker 100:20:30Hey, Eric, it's Angela here. On Northern California, It's really when we look at our market rent growth, it's a we do see potential upside. Having said that, that will require the tech companies to hire to resume their hiring in a more robust way. And so our forecast is really a function of general market outlook because we cannot disconnect from what's happening with the rest of the country. And in particularly, the North Cal region itself, It's really dampened by Oakland because of the amount of supply. Speaker 100:21:09And so if you look at the 1.25% market rent Composition, first of all, it's a narrow range, just given the overall economic environment. But our Southern California leads the portfolio and above that 1.25% and Seattle is a close second. But the drag is really Northern California, which is closer to 1%, so below that 1.25 percent average and that's because Oakland is well below that 1%. So it's that's the drag. Speaker 900:21:43Got it. It's helpful. And then as far as your renewals, when does the concession burn off, sort of the comp get harder and where are you sending renewals for the next couple of months if you sort of exclude that concession burn off? Speaker 600:21:59Eric, this is Jessica. As far as renewal burn off, Barb mentioned earlier, right now, it's roughly fifty-fifty, and it becomes less so with regards to concession burn off as we progress through Q1. Our concession strategy last year, I think we averaged roughly half a week free last year and there were some lumpiness as we dealt with delinquent unit. So we may see that show up periodically. But with regards to forward looking renewals, we've sent out February March at roughly 3%, 3.5%, and it's a little bit less than fifty-fifty. Speaker 600:22:39It's probably more like sixty-forty, And it will continue to progress that way, like I said, unless we have pockets of heavy concession usage from last year. Speaker 900:22:50Got it. Thank you. Operator00:22:53Our next question is from Alexander Goldfarb with Piper Sandler. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 1000:22:59Hey, good afternoon or actually good morning, afternoon here. So a few two questions here. First, I do like the updated S-seventeen. It's much simpler and I think brings the focus to just the data that you guys provide. So that's good. Speaker 1000:23:16So two questions here. First, on the pref equity book, I'm assuming that you guys did not underwrite sort of like low 3 cap deals at the peak or such. But can you just walk through where your investments sit In the capital stack and as we hear articles or read stories about low 3 cap deals being revalued into the fives and what that does people's equity and the associated debt. Can you just walk through your press book and how you underwrote it and how we should think about it from a cap rate perspective? Speaker 200:23:51Yes, Alex, this is Barb. There's a lot of moving parts to that question and every asset is different. What we have is a comprehensive model where we value every asset every quarter. And what we're really focused on is where is our last dollar sit, where are transactions occurring And where is what is the exit strategy and our sponsor is going to continue to fund equity shortfalls. We're also looking at their debt maturities, their caps and swaps they have in place as well as their interest reserves with lenders. Speaker 200:24:26So there's a variety of factors that go into it. I do think we've scrubbed the book. We stopped accrual on 2 others. They were in Northern California. And given where we were in the stack and we're watching a few others closely, but for the most part, we're at very valuations on the rest of the book and are not concerned with it. Speaker 200:24:49And we've consistently got redemptions. Even in the Q4, we were redeemed out of one of our assets. And so we feel good about the rest of the book and we've not had to take back an asset. We've solutions and I think that goes to our disciplined underwriting of our guarantors. Speaker 1000:25:06Okay. And Barb, just to be clear on that, The 2 in Northern California, they're not paying for the run non accrual or you just were precautionary and then the other, I think either a loan that you're watching, do you expect those to go on non accrual? Speaker 200:25:22So the 2 in the Q4, we put them on non accrual. They weren't required to pay current, but we put them on non accrual just given where we are in the stack. They have near term maturities as well, and we're working with the sponsors on those debt refinancings. And then the other ones that we're monitoring, we're assessing that mark we'll assess that quarter by quarter. We have reserved it in the guidance, but we're assessing it based on current market conditions. Speaker 1000:25:47Okay. And then Barb, just on the guidance front, hearing what How you guys have described the market, Seattle is the weak one, Oakland is weak, but your other Bay Area is fine, Southern Cal is obviously great. You're recapturing the COVID units, The OpEx is what it is. You have very little supply in the rest of the portfolio. And it sounds like the jobs outlook from what Angela described is fine. Speaker 1000:26:10So are there any like it doesn't sound like there are really many headwinds in your portfolio. You don't have the supply issues that are plaguing other markets or geographies. So are there any other headwinds that we should be thinking about as far as your earnings? Or Is this or what I've outlined is pretty much how you guys are looking at the landscape this year? Speaker 100:26:31Hey, Alex, it's Angela here. I think you are You're on point as far as how we see our portfolio. We do see that we have a very stable portfolio and supply definitely is a benefit for us. There are the variability really relates to the timing on the delinquency. And That is one aspect of our business that we don't have as much control as we would like because we are subject to how long it takes for the court to process these delinquency units. Speaker 100:27:08The good news is that, that process timing has begun to decline. So for example, last year, when we're talking about LA, It took about 10 to 12 months and currently we're down to 8 months. Everywhere else used to be 9 to 10 months, now it's down to 6 months. So we're making good progress there, but that remains an open item for us as far as the risk is concerned. Speaker 1000:27:36Okay. Thank you. Operator00:27:40Our next question is from Jamie Feldman with Wells Fargo. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 1100:27:46Great. Thank you. I just wanted to dig a little more into your comments on insurance. I think you said up 30%. Can you just talk about what you're seeing there? Speaker 1100:27:55Is that definitely the number? Is there any kind of variability to that? And Does this last round of storms we've seen over the last few weeks impact that at all? Or is it more forward looking? Speaker 200:28:08Jamie, it's Barb. So we did our property and earthquake insurance renewal in December. So that number is fairly baked For the year, we still have GL our general liability, but we don't expect that to move the needle too much. So 30%, I think is the number. It is still a very challenging insurance market. Speaker 200:28:28And we do have a captive and we utilize the captive as appropriate to minimize our insurance premiums where appropriate and where we could based on the risk that we would take within the captive. So we used all angles to minimize that number, but I think it is, it's still going to be a challenging market for the foreseeable future. In terms of the storms that won't impact the number this year, but what the carriers will do next year is still It's undetermined. I think what we need to see in the insurance market is the reinsurers that come back into the market in a big way for the premiums to start to come down. And in terms of storm damage, we haven't had anything material. Speaker 200:29:12We've had obviously some leaks and some minor things, but nothing material related to the storms. Speaker 1100:29:20Okay, that's helpful. Again, I know it's so hard to like quantify because there's a waterfall at every tranche of the coverage, but is there a way to give a number of like your captive exposure, like what percentage of total liability does fall on the company Versus 3rd party? It seems like more and more REITs are growing their captives or using their captives more. I just wonder if there's a way to benchmark It seems so convoluted. Speaker 100:29:49Yes, that's hey, it's Angela here. That's a tough one to quantify because even though there are more rates Looking at the captive, and then I think it makes sense to do so. Everyone approach how they take first loss and that first layer differently. And so I don't know if you can really get apples to apples. We'll look into and see if there's a better way to provide some additional context. Speaker 200:30:15And the other thing I would just add on that is we've had a captive for decades And we have a marketable securities portfolio of over $100,000,000 which is the premiums that we would have paid to third parties that are there to backstop any major insurance loss that we have. So we do have a substantial amount of money sitting there on our balance sheet because of that. Speaker 1100:30:40Okay. That's very helpful. Have you grown the exposure in recent years or not necessarily? Speaker 200:30:47Not necessarily. We will ebb and flow earthquake depending on the earthquake premiums that are out there because sometimes The earthquake coverage can be extreme. So we will look at that in a different way, but we do have 3rd earthquake on all high rises and 5 stories and up. But outside of that, we haven't taken on any real significant risk in the last few years. Speaker 1100:31:15Okay. All right. Thank you. I'm sure we'll talk about this more. Operator00:31:19Our next question is from Adam Kramer with Morgan Please proceed with your question. Speaker 1200:31:25Hey, guys. Just wanted to ask you about kind of the new versus renewal spread. I know it's been talked about a little bit already, but wondering if you were to look over whether it's a long run average or maybe go back to kind of prior recessions even and use that as kind of the test case. Wondering what the kind of spread historically was between new and renewals? Speaker 100:31:48Hey, Adam, it's Angela here. That one the relationship between renewal and new lease rates is really driven by what the prior year's new lease rate is. So for example, in 2022, our market rents or new lease rates were north of 11%. And so that, of course, means that you can have a much higher renewal rate to take it to market. And so that relationship really will be driven by whatever the market rent is going to be and the renewal then follows. Speaker 100:32:25It's really a lagging effect. So there isn't an exact number that you really can peg just because it's really one follows the other, not so much that there is a logical or relationship that you could just use as a benchmark for trending purposes. Speaker 1200:32:46Got it. That's really helpful. Thanks, Angela. And just on the On kind of prep equity, you may be getting kind of more and more money back from that than you have in the past. And I know in the past you've asked about kind of, hey, would you look at other markets in the U. Speaker 1200:33:03S, right, other markets outside of the West Coast? And maybe with getting kind of more proceeds back for a fact we have a little bit more dry powder. Yes, that could enable you to maybe take a harder look at some markets outside the last year. So I figured I'd ask that question. Speaker 100:33:20Hey, Adam. No, that's a good question. We actually Have I know this is not a surprise we get this question on a regular basis and it's fair to ask. We have historically a disciplined approach when it comes to evaluating markets, not just within our own markets. And so we do look at all the major metros across the U. Speaker 100:33:43S. And it's part of our annual study to make sure that We have a good handle on what are driving the fundamentals of other markets as well. And so This is not to say that we wouldn't venture into other markets or take whatever proceeds available. It's really a function of how we view the relative value. And what I mean by that is, as I mentioned earlier, when we look at The fundamentals of our markets with recovery ahead of us with potential demand catalysts from these large companies and low supply and affordability metrics, that just speaks to the fact that our markets has much more upside and lower risk from supply. Speaker 100:34:39And so it's more compelling in the near term to focus our investments in our markets. We will of course continue to watch the other markets and make sure that relative value holds. Speaker 1200:34:55Great. Thanks for the time. Operator00:34:59Our next question is from Joshua Dennerlein with Bank of Speaker 800:35:11Sending out renewals at 3%, 3.5% right now, but your guide assumes 1.75% for the full year. I think some of that might just have to do with the free rent burn off. But can you maybe walk us through the cadence of when we get past that free rent burn off and when things start trend down to 1.75 because I assume the second half of the year is actually weaker than the 1.75 Speaker 100:35:37Hey, Josh. It's Angela here. We are seeing that the benefit of the concession burn off to begin to abate as we head into the Q2. And that's why as Barb mentioned that you'll see that renewal rates to start to converge to that 1.25% market rent. So that's hopefully that's the cadence that answers your cadence question. Speaker 800:36:09Okay. Yes. That's good. And then maybe just one more. For the same store revenue range, Could you walk us through the assumptions that get us to the high and low end of the same store revenue range of 70 basis points to 2.7%, mostly focused on like blends and occupancy assumptions underlying that? Speaker 200:36:33Yes, Josh, this is Barb. There's a lot of different assumptions that go into the high and the low end. I think the biggest will be delinquency and market rent growth that could drive us to either the high or the low end. And As we saw like in the Q3 when we or the Q4 when we got back a lot of delinquent units, it can have an impact, a temporary impact to our occupancy and to market rent if we get those units back in a low demand period. So there's a variety of assumptions related to that on Speaker 600:37:03the high and the low end. Okay. Speaker 800:37:09I'll follow-up. All right. Appreciate that. Thank you. Operator00:37:13Our next question is from Wes Golladay with Baird. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 1300:37:18Hey, everyone. Can you give us the balance on the 2 non accrual investments. And then can you also comment on what the $20,000,000 non core G and A charges this year? Speaker 200:37:29Yes. So the 2 that we put on non accrual, the balance is $25,000,000 for both. And in terms of the $20,000,000 that we have in our guidance, that's mostly related to political contributions. As you know, we're fighting a couple of ballot measures. So that's most of what that's for. Speaker 1300:37:51Okay, thanks for that. And then I guess maybe bigger picture, supply is still relatively low at the portfolio level and rent growth is, call it, low 1%. Is it just mainly the markets with heavy supply bringing that the blend down for you. You also mentioned something in the comments earlier about the job growth is being driven by service related jobs. So I'm just wondering if the job mix is also playing a big part of the forecast this year. Speaker 100:38:18Hey, Wes. Speaker 200:38:22On the Speaker 100:38:22rents for our guidance, it's a couple of factors. So first is what you mentioned, the service sector jobs, which has been which has dominated the job growth last year. And we've all seen the announcements recently. Lots of companies are still retooling and reevaluating. And so Typically, if you look at the long term average of our job growth and the composition, normally you would want about 30% of those jobs to come from higher wage jobs. Speaker 100:38:58And so in this environment, which With the consensus, the macro consensus of a soft landing, we certainly wouldn't be forecasting, wouldn't be getting ahead of them forecasting robust high wage job growth. And so that's one key factor. As far as supply, you're right. Our for our portfolio, it's only 0.5% for California. Seattle is elevated And close to 1% and higher than last year. Speaker 100:39:32Fortunately for us, it's We concentrated in the downtown area and our portfolio is mostly on the East side. Having said that, there will be some properties that will have to that will be impacted by supply and we'll see concessions elevated on a temporary basis for those assets. Speaker 1300:39:57Okay. Thank you for that. Operator00:40:01Our next question is from John Pawlowski with Green Street. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 500:40:07Thanks for the time. Barb, I wanted to follow-up on your comments on your quarterly process of remarking the values in your preferred equity book and making sure Your dollar basis is safe. Are you able to share a rough average loan to value in your prep book right now As on real values not lagged kind of third party appraised values? Speaker 200:40:33I don't have that in front of me. And I think it varies by asset. So I don't have that in front of me. But it does matter about The rent growth that we've seen in each asset for each property and how we underwrote it initially, that all plays into fact where we are in the capital stack. But like I said, we do a thorough scrub and we feel comfortable with the book. Speaker 500:41:01Okay. One more for you, Barb. How much success, if any, have you had Seeing past written off rent from tenants that have moved out. I'm just not I don't have a good sense of how much T's you guys have to go after credit scores and how much you're able to actually collect from the huge kind of cumulative written off rent balance? Speaker 200:41:24Yes, it's a small component of our monthly collections. We are collecting A little bit every month on that past due rent because we have hit their credit and gone after them. But it and because of our conservative approach to how we account for bad debt whereby if you're delinquent after 30 days, we we reserve against it in the financials. When we go and hit their credit and they need their credit, they will start to pay. So we've It is a reoccurring part of our income given how we account for it, but it's hard to quantify and it is lumpy. Speaker 200:42:01It moves around month to month. And we do expect it will be a reoccurring part for the foreseeable future given we have over $130,000,000 in uncollected rent. Speaker 1100:42:12But it Speaker 200:42:12will be a small part, but it will be drips and drabs. Speaker 1400:42:17Okay. All right. Thank you very much. Operator00:42:22Our next question is from John Kim with BMO Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 500:42:28Thank you. I wanted to go back to your market rent forecast of 1.25% for the year, which is below what you had a year ago. Angela mentioned on the prepared remarks, layoff announcements have come down quite a bit year over year. So I was just wondering, are you seeing more move outs due to job losses this year versus a year ago when it seemed like tech layoffs were a lot more prevalent? Speaker 100:42:54Hey, John, it's Angela here. We have not seen more move outs due to job loss and we do track When we look at move out reasons, it's relatively stable. And so our market outlook is really a function of where the economy is and how we believe we would perform relative to the overall economy. Speaker 500:43:20Okay. So just projecting Speaker 1400:43:23the unemployment rate moving up. Yes. Speaker 200:43:27And I think, John, just to add to that, I think the mix of jobs has been We've seen a change in mix over the last year as the high quality jobs have not been added in mostly sector, as Angela mentioned earlier. And I think that, that is we just don't see that changing in this environment given the slow economy. So that could change. That would be upside to the forecast, but it's not our base case at this point. And that's what's driving the below average. Speaker 500:44:01Can I clarify on the impairment that you had in your preferred? Do you still have a position in this asset or was it was a loan fully written off due to the recapitulation or some other kind of event? Speaker 200:44:14We still have our investment in the asset, but because our the loan and our investment matures in October this year and because we don't feel we'll fully realize our valuation by the end of the term of our maturity of our loan, We impaired the asset, which is consistent with GAAP accounting rules. We do believe in the asset long term and the market long term, we're obviously in a very depressed market in Oakland and but it's going to take time for that market to recover. We need to see supply abate, which we will start to happen in 2025 and really into 2026 and that should bring rents up. And so that will help our investment long term. The sponsor continues to fund equity shortfalls and is actively putting money into the project and we are working actively with them on the refi that will be coming up here in the fall. Speaker 500:45:17What is the likelihood you put more capital into the project or take ownership of the asset? Speaker 200:45:25I think that will be determined as we work through the refinance and based on the sponsors' response to the refinance. So it's a little too early and premature to Talk about that. We'll know more as we work through that this summer. Speaker 500:45:41Okay, great. Thank you. Operator00:45:44Our next question is from Michael Goldsmith with UBS. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 1500:45:50Good afternoon. Thanks a lot for taking my question. How is demand trending in your markets? And if you can quantify that in any way like number of property tours that would be helpful. Like in a market like Seattle, does increased supply in the urban core combined with return to office draw residents away from the More suburban Essex properties. Speaker 600:46:12Hi, Michael. This is Jessica. I can provide you some basics, I guess as far as how leasing fundamentals are going in our markets. And it's really trending as expected in all of our markets Right now, when we're looking at things like lead volume is steadily increasing, which is what we would expect this time of year and then also leasing activity overall is stable. As far as quantifying it goes, I mean, we really see that increase in demand that we would expect, of course, correlates to whatever sequential rent growth that we see. Speaker 600:46:48And we pointed that out earlier, we saw good growth in both NorCal and Seattle, and that's something that is in part due to concession burn off. Those are our most seasonal markets, So we do expect them to grow more substantially on a sequential basis. But overall, they're performing as expected in line with what we would expect this time of year. Speaker 1500:47:15Thanks for that. And my follow-up question is on rent control. Have you seen any change in the rent control environment in your markets? And then given that it's an election year, does that create a little bit more noise in a traditional year? Thanks. Speaker 100:47:35Hey, Michael. In an environment where we're looking at 1.25 percent market rent growth, We certainly don't expect an elevated concern when it comes to the rent control conversation. Now there is, I think, many of you are aware that there is a proposition out there to repeal Costa Hawkins. Once again, sponsored by Michael Weinstein, the Head of the AIDS Foundation. And we, Of course, participate in the housing coalition that supports responsible legislation, and we do not view that this proposal to repeal the Costa Hawkins Housing Act will have traction because It's this is the 3rd time that this proposal has come up. Speaker 100:48:27And in the past two times, It was overwhelmingly defeated. I mean, only one out of 58 counties voted in favor of repealing Cross Hawkins and they and that was by a narrow margin. And it lacks the governance and general political support. It is viewed as an anti growth proposal that will deter housing production when we already have a housing shortage. And so that but that is one that we are watching carefully. Speaker 100:48:58But beyond that, it's that's a normal operating environment for us from a legislative perspective. Speaker 1500:49:07Thank you very much. Good luck in 2024. Speaker 100:49:11Thank you. Operator00:49:13Our next question is from Rich Anderson with Wedbush. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 1600:49:17Hey, good morning, everyone. So Barb, you said one of the swing factors for you is getting back delinquent units and perhaps into a downtime in the rental market and not knowing what that opportunity would present itself. But I imagine it would be either 0 or something more and it's just a matter of when that something more hits. Is that it? Because obviously the delinquent unit wasn't paying rent. Speaker 1600:49:44I want to make sure I understand that logically what you're saying there. Speaker 200:49:48Yes. So yes, and we can take the example of what happened in September, commensurately. And then when we backfilled, we gave back a little bit on the rent growth. And so there was A small impact to the bottom line, but it didn't all fall to the bottom line. Long term, it's beneficial for us, but there is a temporary headwind, especially if you get the units back in a low demand period because then you have to give concessions to backfill those units. Speaker 200:50:29If we get the units back during peak leasing season and we have strong peak leasing season, there will be less impact To occupancy and rent growth. Speaker 1400:50:38But why would there be Speaker 1600:50:39an impact negatively if they weren't paying rent? Cares what the occupancy was if there were 0 rent coming in anyway? I'm just curious, I'm not sure I understand why there would be a negative number in that scenario? It would be either 0 or something more. Speaker 100:50:57Yes. So I think from your Question from your perspective, the absolute number is right now we're going from 0 to something. So you can't be below 0. But keep in mind, the way Barb has outlined the guidance, we are assuming an improvement in delinquency, which means we will need to get We do need to convert some of those zeros into a positive number just to be at the point. Operator00:51:24Yes. Okay, perfect. That's helpful. Speaker 1600:51:26Yes. Thank you. And then, so where there are problems in the bank industry and as it touches multifamily, it's in the rent regulated area. We've seen that in New York Community and Signature Portfolios and so on, rent regulated can California can be described with that phrase, I assume. I'm curious to what degree you're seeing anything popping up and if this was covered earlier, I apologize. Speaker 1600:51:51But is there are you In a position to jump on opportunities, is there a pipeline building of sort of these sort of distressed situations, maturities coming, anything like that, that is interesting to you? Or is it not really sort of apparently happening at this point as an external growth opportunity for Essex? Thanks. Speaker 700:52:17Hi, Rich. I'll echo what many of our peers have said is we're not currently seeing much distressed selling at all in our markets. Given the amount of debt coming due in the next couple of years, we anticipate there should be some opportunities, but as of yet, we have yet to really see any forced selling. So we are keeping our eyes open and looking for opportunities, But nothing as of yet. Speaker 1600:52:45Okay. Thanks so much. Operator00:52:50Our next question is from Linda Tsai with Jefferies. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 200:52:56Hi. In terms of the $134,000,000 in receivables, are there different ways to chip away at that, like get debt collectors involved or Just anything operationally you can do to get your money back faster? Yes, Linda. We are this is Barb. We are pursuing 3 avenue to try to collect on that money, whether it be taken to small claims court, we've ding their credit. Speaker 200:53:26And like I said, we are collecting little bits here and there, but it depends on when they need their credit. And when they need their credit, then they tend to come back and pay. But if they don't need their credit for a long time, then it can sit out there. But Every avenue we can pursue, we are pursuing to try to collect on that money. Got it. Speaker 200:53:48And then just in terms of getting units back in a low demand period where it's more negative for you, like what are some of the determinants for The timing of when you do get those units back and how do you forecast that to the extent you can? Speaker 100:54:06Linda, that's the $64,000 question of the day. When do we get these darn units back? And for us, it will be great to get them back as soon as possible. The challenge here is that once a unit is in eviction, When we looked at the 4th quarter, the majority of those tenants just leave. So what that means is for us, normally In a normal environment, we have notices that a tenant is going to vacate. Speaker 100:54:39We can pre lease these units. We can plan for turnover and of course coordinated marketing efforts and Our site personnel is ready for the move out, move ins and all those logistics. In a situation where We have a certain number of evictions in play and we don't know how many are going to come back or when. That's the part that creates that pressure when it comes to pricing, and it's very difficult to predict. Thank you. Operator00:55:17Our next question is from Buck Horne with Raymond James. Please with your question. Speaker 1400:55:23Thanks. Appreciate the time. I was wondering if going to the delinquency issue, if you could maybe Add a little color, if you're seeing any systemic application fraud or upticks in just application fraud or identity fraud or other types of misrepresentations by tenants, is this something that's kind of spreading on social media that's becoming more of a structural issue? Speaker 100:55:50Hey, Buck. It's Angela here. We have been our team has done a great job staying on top of these potential issues. And when we look at the fraud instances, it has not ticked up or become elevated. And In some instances, say, if it's a building specific issue, we immediately remedied those. Speaker 100:56:12And So that really hasn't been a driver for whether it's behavior or impact to our financials. It really is driven by the court processing time. So I'll give you an example. When a tenant goes delinquent, pre COVID, it only took us about, say, 2 months on average to evict this tenant. Because of the court delays, it's 6 months plus, right, or 8 months if you're in L. Speaker 100:56:45A. And so that's the time that's getting accumulated. And so we normally have a level of delinquency in our portfolio, But it's elevated now because it's just taking longer. Speaker 1400:56:59Got you. Okay. That's helpful. I appreciate the color there. And just as it relates to your future investment opportunities or kind of how you think about capital allocation between Urban core or suburban assets and opportunities in your core markets, you're saying there's a lot of upside yet to be achieved in the West Coast markets and some significant recovery potential. Speaker 1400:57:25Do you think that applies to the downtown urban cores of L. A, San Fran, Seattle, is that where you would look to allocate additional dollars first? Or do you think the suburban submarkets would continue to outperform? Speaker 700:57:41Hi, Buck. It's a good question. Obviously, investment returns driven by what you prep pay. So we are paying attention to everything that's coming to market and we'll keep an open mind to any investment. A major consideration for us is also making sure that we are acquiring near our existing footprints. Speaker 700:58:00Given our unique operating model, we think we can add a lot of value when it's purchased when we buy something near an existing asset collection. Now as you know, the majority of those assets happen to be in the suburban market and that is where we're primarily focused. They also have fewer quality of life issues currently. So a simple answer is we are very focused in our suburban footprint, but we will keep an open mind to anything that crosses our broader markets. Speaker 1400:58:30Got it. Appreciate it. Operator00:58:31All right. Thanks, guys. Good luck. Thank you. There are no further questions at this time. 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There are 17 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good day, and welcome to the Essex Property Trust 4th Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. As a reminder, today's conference call is being recorded. Statements made on this conference call regarding expected operating results and other future events are forward looking statements that involve risks and uncertainties. Forward looking statements are made based on current expectations, assumptions and beliefs as well as information available to the company at this time. A number of factors could cause actual results to differ materially from those anticipated. Operator00:00:32Further information about these risks can be found on the company's filings with the SEC. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Ms. Angela Clyman, President and Chief Executive Officer for Essex Property Trust. Thank you, Ms. Clyman. Operator00:00:44You may begin. Speaker 100:00:46Good morning and thank you for joining Essex's 4th Quarter Earnings Call. Barb Hack will follow with prepared remarks. Rylan Burns and Jessica Anderson are here for Q and A. I will start with the key highlights of our 2023 performance, then discuss our expectations for 2024, followed by comments on the transaction market and our investment strategy. Overall, 2023 was a solid year for Essex. Speaker 100:01:12We achieved a 4.4% same property revenue growth for the full year, which is in line with our revised guidance and 40 basis points higher than the original midpoint. Furthermore, we made progress in reducing delinquency as a percentage of rent from over 2% in the first quarter down to 1.4% by year end. These are the results of the well coordinated efforts of our hard working operations and support teams across the company. Great job, team, and thank you. Lastly, we continue to drive results to the bottom line, delivering a 3.6% year over year increase in core FFO per share, exceeding the high end of our original guidance range by 0 point 0 $6 Turning to the 4th quarter. Speaker 100:01:58We deployed an occupancy strategy as market rents moderated generally consistent with typical seasonal pattern. In addition, We recovered a significant number of delinquent units starting in October. As expected, the subsequent backfilling of non paying units during a seasonally slow period created a temporary headwind to net effective new lease rates, which averaged negative 1.7% for the quarter. On the renewal front, the positive trend continues with strong retention among our residents, generating an increase in renewal rates of 4.9% for the quarter, resulting in blended rates of positive 2.6%. As we start 2024, leasing activities in our markets is steady. Speaker 100:02:45In January, new lease net effective rates improved by 150 basis points and concession usage decreased by half since the 4th quarter. And our financial occupancy sits in a solid position of 96.2%. Moving on to our outlook for the West Coast in 2024 as outlined in our earnings We expect the U. S. Economy and job growth to normalize in 2024 consistent with economists' outlook of a soft landing. Speaker 100:03:14We forecast job growth on the West Coast to perform in line with the national average on the Essex markets to produce market rent growth of 1.25% on average. The consensus macroeconomic U. S. Assumptions and the quality of jobs are key considerations to our modest outlook. In 2023, the employment growth was largely concentrated in the service sectors, which do not yield meaningful rent growth. Speaker 100:03:39We expect this dynamic to continue and we currently assume hiring of highly skilled workers to remain muted as companies continue to evaluate their labor needs priorities. While our base case scenario for 2024 reflect Tempur's growth, there are Several factors that could support a more positive outcome. 1st, inflation could continue to move in the right direction, increasing the likelihood that the reaccelerate as cost of capital becomes more attractive. 2nd, the large technology companies implemented significant business and labor at the end of 2022 through the early part of last year. Therefore, these companies are better equipped today to lead advancements and stimulate growth. Speaker 100:04:32To this point, recent layoff announcements have been much smaller in scale with companies citing larger strategic plans to redirect talent and investments toward artificial intelligence projects, which we view as a long term benefit for the West Coast. With low levels of housing supply in our markets, a modest increase in demand could accelerate rent growth. Despite uncertainties in the overall economy, we are confident in our market's ability to navigate near term volatility and to outperform in the long term. Our conviction is based on 2 fundamental factors, low housing supply and favorable affordability. Over the next 2 years, we expect less than 1% of total supply growth per annum, which enables us to generate positive rent growth in most environments. Speaker 100:05:19Also renting in the Essex markets is considerably more affordable than owning a home and favorable rent to income ratios support a long runway for rent growth, especially in our northern regions. As such, we expect the economic incentive to rent to persist and drive demand for multifamily housing. Lastly, on the investment market and our strategy. 2023 was a year of historically low transaction volume, primarily due to significant volatility in the capital markets. Although we've seen interest rates decline throughout the 4th quarter, Yield spread between buyers and sellers remain wide ranging from approximately 25 to 50 basis points in our markets And thus, we are not anticipating a significant increase in deal volume in the near term. Speaker 100:06:07Lenders have generally been accommodating to sponsors, Expanding debt maturities when feasible and there are very few forced sellers in our markets currently. Given the dearth of data points, there is less uncertainty in the transaction market. It is during periods of uncertainty that assets has historically created significant value for our shareholders through external growth. As such, our investment team is proactively looking for acquisition opportunities to generate the best risk adjusted returns. We expect Essex disciplined approach to capital allocation, strong balance sheet and deep market expertise will be key differentiators in creating long term value. Speaker 100:06:47With that, I'll turn the Speaker 200:06:48call over to Barb. Thanks, Angela. Today, I will discuss the key assumptions to our 2024 guidance and provide an update on the balance sheet. Beginning with our outlook for 2024, a key factor to our revenue forecast is our market rent growth assumption. As Angela mentioned, the economic backdrop is expected to be muted this year, which is leading to below average rent growth for our markets. Speaker 200:07:14As a result, same property revenue growth is tempered at 1.7% at the midpoint on a cash basis. The key drivers of our revenue growth are outlined on Page 17.1 of the supplemental. Our guidance assumes delinquency of 1.5% of scheduled rents for the full year, which represents a 40 basis points improvement to year over year revenue growth. We expect delinquency will gradually improve as we move through the year. In terms of regional performance, we expect Southern California will produce our highest revenue growth at 3%, led by Orange County and San Diego. Speaker 200:07:51Northern California will be around 1% and Seattle will be our weakest performing region, which is forecasted to be flat on a year over year basis. Moving to operating expenses. We are projecting 4.25% growth for the full year, which is largely driven by higher insurance costs. Although insurance costs accounts for a small portion of our total operating expenses, we are forecasting a 30% increase in our premiums, which adds 1.4% to our total same property expense growth. The company remains focused on managing controllable expenses, which we are forecasting to increase 3% in 2024, primarily driven by higher wages. Speaker 200:08:34In total, we expect same property NOI growth of 60 basis points and core FFO per share growth to be flat at the midpoint compared to 2023. Core FFO growth would be over 1% higher if not for the impact from 2 items related to our preferred equity platform. First, in December, we received $40,000,000 in redemption proceeds and we are forecasting an additional $100,000,000 in redemption proceeds this year. We anticipate redeploying the funds into new acquisitions, which tempers our near term FFO growth, but is the best long term capital allocation decision for Essex. 2nd, while our sponsors remain current on all financial obligations with the senior lenders, we changed the accrual status on 2 investments in the 4th quarter based on current market conditions. Speaker 200:09:24Further, we've taken a prudent approach as to how we projected income for the remainder of the as part of our 2024 guidance. We will continue to evaluate the accrual status on each of our preferred equity investments every quarter as appropriate. Turning to the balance sheet. Essex is in a strong financial position with minimal financing needs over the next 12 months and ample sources of capital. Our leverage levels are solid with net debt to EBITDA at 5.4x and we have over 1.6 of liquidity available to us. Speaker 200:09:57We manage our balance sheet and capital needs conservatively to be well positioned to create value throughout the cycle And we remain optimistic we will see opportunities to invest this year. With that, I will now turn the call back to the operator for questions. Operator00:10:13Thank you. We'll now be conducting a question and answer Our first question is from Austin Wurschmidt with KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 300:10:51Great, thanks. Just digging into guidance here. Can you share what your assumptions are for new and renewal lease rate growth are relative to the 1.25 market rent growth Assumed and kind of how you're thinking about the cadence of that through the year? Speaker 200:11:05Hi, Austin. It's Barb. Yes. So we're assuming 1.25% for new lease growth. And renewals, we expect to be slightly above that at 1.75%. Speaker 200:11:17We do expect renewal growth will be in the first half of the year be above 2% in the low 2% range and then drift down to our market rent growth assumption of 1.25 in the back half of the year. Speaker 300:11:33I guess just following quickly up on that, what's driving that really tight spread? Are there concessions burning off or anything that's impacting, I guess the spread between new and renewal lease rates assumed in your guidance? Speaker 200:11:49Yes. So I think if you look at January, you'll see we printed 4 point percent on new leases or renewals, but 50% of that is a burn off of concessions. And so it's not really market rent, new market rent growth. And I would say our philosophy on renewals is not to push them above market. We do like to we want to price appropriately. Speaker 200:12:11And last year in 2023, we didn't have a significant loss to lease. And so we don't have a big spread differential between our new and renewals from last year that would carry forward into this year. So we think it's priced appropriately. Speaker 300:12:27And then if I can just sneak in one more. I recognize you guys report financial occupancy, but could you break out the impact from guidance around change and then impact from concessions and maybe what market rent growth would look like on a net effective basis if you included the concession impact there? Thank you. Speaker 200:12:46Yes. So the concession piece on the occupancy and concessions, we expect concessions to be a 0 point our 10 basis point headwind to our forecast this year, occupancy to be 20 basis points. So we're forecasting 96.2% for occupancy. So we don't expect concessions to have a material impact to the forecast this year on a year over year basis. Operator00:13:09Thank you. Our next question is from Steve Sakwa with Evercore ISI. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 400:13:15Yes, thanks. I guess good morning out there. I noticed on the delinquency slide, I guess it's There was a big jump up in the delinquencies between the Q4 and January. And I know you talked about that overall trend getting better for the full year, I think to the tune of 40 basis points, but just what color can you provide in January that showed that big pop? Speaker 200:13:40Hi, Steve, it's Barb. Yes, this January talk we've seen for several years now. It's the post holiday. I think people are paying off their credit cards and whatnot. So it's not something that we're overly concerned about. Speaker 200:13:55We're monitoring it closely, but we have seen this last year. If you go back and you look at our supplemental, we saw 190 basis points increase from Q4 to January. This year, we're up 80%. So it is a lot lower than we were a year ago, but we're monitoring it. Speaker 400:14:17Okay. And then just I guess maybe On the DC or your, I guess, your pref book, I mean, just as you've kind of gone through and scrubbed sort of some of the things you talked about, Couple of the underwriting changes, like just what risk do you sort of see out there on the kind of roughly $500,000,000 you've got outstanding? And I guess, how are you sort of handicapping that in terms of any future write offs? Speaker 200:14:47Yes, Steve, this is Barb. We take a prudent approach when we look at this. And there's a variety of factors that we look at When we're looking at our preferred book, where are we? Where's our last dollar sit relative to the market today? What are what's the maturity of our investments and how much time do we have for the market to recover? Speaker 200:15:10And really, what is our sponsors doing? Are they continuing to equity and can they continue to fund. So those are the factors that we're looking at. I think we have fully handicapped the issues that we see today based on current conditions within our guidance. It's a few assets we're monitoring, but for the most part, the book is performing as we expected. Speaker 400:15:35Great. Thanks. That's it for me. Operator00:15:39Our next is from Nick Yulico with Scotiabank. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 500:15:44Hey, it's Daniel for Carrickville on for Nick. Barb, with respect to the improvement in new lease rate growth in January, which markets were the largest drivers of that change? And I know you mentioned the 50 basis point improvement from Concession burn off, but is the general market improvement largely in line with typical seasonality? Speaker 600:16:04This is Jessica. I'll take that. With regards to the largest driver of the sequential improvement from Q4 to January was 150 basis points. We saw the greatest improvement in Northern California and the Bay Area. And a large part of that was concession burn off. Speaker 600:16:24For the total portfolio, if you break down the 150 basis point improvement, 100 basis points of it is the improvement in concession. So we were averaging 1 week in Q4 and that's a half a week for January. And then the other part of it, 50 basis points is attributed to rent growth, which is typical with what we would expect this time of year historically. Speaker 500:16:48Great. Thank you. Angela, follow-up. How are you thinking about recycling capital from your future pref equity redemptions into acquisitions or another use. You talked about optimism, I believe, in your opening remarks around a growing opportunity set. Speaker 500:17:02Are you seeing anything specific in the market today? And I guess along the same lines, how are your JV partners thinking about deploying new capital into acquisitions today? Speaker 100:17:13Yes, that's a good question. As far as how we're viewing investments and let me just give you a quick background on our preface equity book. The investment thesis for this vehicle was intended to complement development pipeline during a period when yields and interest rates were low and construction costs were accelerating at a significant higher rate than rent growth. So you saw us leaning into this business when the 10 year fell to historical low and in that environment a 12% yield was relatively more attractive. The general market environment and the interest rate conditions today are very different. Speaker 100:17:55And so we view that there's more upside to rent growth in our markets over the long run. So the relative value is more compelling to focus on fee simple acquisitions. So it doesn't mean that we're shrinking the preferred equity book intentionally, but rather that this book will probably drift lower as we look to acquisitions as a way to grow the company. And The reason is because if you look at the fundamentals in our market, it all speaks to more upside, relatively speaking from rent growth. So especially in our northern region, we have much lower supply. Speaker 100:18:35Affordability metrics is in the best position we've seen since we started tracking this metric historically. And there's the rent has yet to recover, so it's still in the recovery phase. And lastly, there is demand optionality. I mean, if you look at the composition of the companies in our markets, the 7th Largest 7 out of 10 largest companies are located in our markets and these are companies that have tremendous amount of wealth and looking and have committed to infrastructure and investment deployments. And so If you look at all the building blocks, it's there and it's ripe for acceleration once the economy shifts from a soft economy to a growth economy. Speaker 100:19:31And on the IRRs, Rylin, you want to talk about the IRRs? Speaker 700:19:34Yes. At a high level, I mean, we have several joint venture We've been in this business for a long time that remain committed to us and our investment thesis along the West Coast. So There is demand there if we see the right opportunities and we would expect we will see some opportunities in the next year or 2. Speaker 800:19:55All right. Thanks for the time, guys. Operator00:19:59Our next question is from Eric Wolf with Citi. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 900:20:05Hey, thanks. I think you just mentioned that you saw the largest improvement in Northern California between 4Q and January and your peer just mentioned something similar on their call a moment ago. So I was just curious why you think you'll sort of see this muted rent growth environment throughout the year in Northern California, if you're already starting to see signs of a recovery during the sort of seasonally weak period? Speaker 100:20:30Hey, Eric, it's Angela here. On Northern California, It's really when we look at our market rent growth, it's a we do see potential upside. Having said that, that will require the tech companies to hire to resume their hiring in a more robust way. And so our forecast is really a function of general market outlook because we cannot disconnect from what's happening with the rest of the country. And in particularly, the North Cal region itself, It's really dampened by Oakland because of the amount of supply. Speaker 100:21:09And so if you look at the 1.25% market rent Composition, first of all, it's a narrow range, just given the overall economic environment. But our Southern California leads the portfolio and above that 1.25% and Seattle is a close second. But the drag is really Northern California, which is closer to 1%, so below that 1.25 percent average and that's because Oakland is well below that 1%. So it's that's the drag. Speaker 900:21:43Got it. It's helpful. And then as far as your renewals, when does the concession burn off, sort of the comp get harder and where are you sending renewals for the next couple of months if you sort of exclude that concession burn off? Speaker 600:21:59Eric, this is Jessica. As far as renewal burn off, Barb mentioned earlier, right now, it's roughly fifty-fifty, and it becomes less so with regards to concession burn off as we progress through Q1. Our concession strategy last year, I think we averaged roughly half a week free last year and there were some lumpiness as we dealt with delinquent unit. So we may see that show up periodically. But with regards to forward looking renewals, we've sent out February March at roughly 3%, 3.5%, and it's a little bit less than fifty-fifty. Speaker 600:22:39It's probably more like sixty-forty, And it will continue to progress that way, like I said, unless we have pockets of heavy concession usage from last year. Speaker 900:22:50Got it. Thank you. Operator00:22:53Our next question is from Alexander Goldfarb with Piper Sandler. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 1000:22:59Hey, good afternoon or actually good morning, afternoon here. So a few two questions here. First, I do like the updated S-seventeen. It's much simpler and I think brings the focus to just the data that you guys provide. So that's good. Speaker 1000:23:16So two questions here. First, on the pref equity book, I'm assuming that you guys did not underwrite sort of like low 3 cap deals at the peak or such. But can you just walk through where your investments sit In the capital stack and as we hear articles or read stories about low 3 cap deals being revalued into the fives and what that does people's equity and the associated debt. Can you just walk through your press book and how you underwrote it and how we should think about it from a cap rate perspective? Speaker 200:23:51Yes, Alex, this is Barb. There's a lot of moving parts to that question and every asset is different. What we have is a comprehensive model where we value every asset every quarter. And what we're really focused on is where is our last dollar sit, where are transactions occurring And where is what is the exit strategy and our sponsor is going to continue to fund equity shortfalls. We're also looking at their debt maturities, their caps and swaps they have in place as well as their interest reserves with lenders. Speaker 200:24:26So there's a variety of factors that go into it. I do think we've scrubbed the book. We stopped accrual on 2 others. They were in Northern California. And given where we were in the stack and we're watching a few others closely, but for the most part, we're at very valuations on the rest of the book and are not concerned with it. Speaker 200:24:49And we've consistently got redemptions. Even in the Q4, we were redeemed out of one of our assets. And so we feel good about the rest of the book and we've not had to take back an asset. We've solutions and I think that goes to our disciplined underwriting of our guarantors. Speaker 1000:25:06Okay. And Barb, just to be clear on that, The 2 in Northern California, they're not paying for the run non accrual or you just were precautionary and then the other, I think either a loan that you're watching, do you expect those to go on non accrual? Speaker 200:25:22So the 2 in the Q4, we put them on non accrual. They weren't required to pay current, but we put them on non accrual just given where we are in the stack. They have near term maturities as well, and we're working with the sponsors on those debt refinancings. And then the other ones that we're monitoring, we're assessing that mark we'll assess that quarter by quarter. We have reserved it in the guidance, but we're assessing it based on current market conditions. Speaker 1000:25:47Okay. And then Barb, just on the guidance front, hearing what How you guys have described the market, Seattle is the weak one, Oakland is weak, but your other Bay Area is fine, Southern Cal is obviously great. You're recapturing the COVID units, The OpEx is what it is. You have very little supply in the rest of the portfolio. And it sounds like the jobs outlook from what Angela described is fine. Speaker 1000:26:10So are there any like it doesn't sound like there are really many headwinds in your portfolio. You don't have the supply issues that are plaguing other markets or geographies. So are there any other headwinds that we should be thinking about as far as your earnings? Or Is this or what I've outlined is pretty much how you guys are looking at the landscape this year? Speaker 100:26:31Hey, Alex, it's Angela here. I think you are You're on point as far as how we see our portfolio. We do see that we have a very stable portfolio and supply definitely is a benefit for us. There are the variability really relates to the timing on the delinquency. And That is one aspect of our business that we don't have as much control as we would like because we are subject to how long it takes for the court to process these delinquency units. Speaker 100:27:08The good news is that, that process timing has begun to decline. So for example, last year, when we're talking about LA, It took about 10 to 12 months and currently we're down to 8 months. Everywhere else used to be 9 to 10 months, now it's down to 6 months. So we're making good progress there, but that remains an open item for us as far as the risk is concerned. Speaker 1000:27:36Okay. Thank you. Operator00:27:40Our next question is from Jamie Feldman with Wells Fargo. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 1100:27:46Great. Thank you. I just wanted to dig a little more into your comments on insurance. I think you said up 30%. Can you just talk about what you're seeing there? Speaker 1100:27:55Is that definitely the number? Is there any kind of variability to that? And Does this last round of storms we've seen over the last few weeks impact that at all? Or is it more forward looking? Speaker 200:28:08Jamie, it's Barb. So we did our property and earthquake insurance renewal in December. So that number is fairly baked For the year, we still have GL our general liability, but we don't expect that to move the needle too much. So 30%, I think is the number. It is still a very challenging insurance market. Speaker 200:28:28And we do have a captive and we utilize the captive as appropriate to minimize our insurance premiums where appropriate and where we could based on the risk that we would take within the captive. So we used all angles to minimize that number, but I think it is, it's still going to be a challenging market for the foreseeable future. In terms of the storms that won't impact the number this year, but what the carriers will do next year is still It's undetermined. I think what we need to see in the insurance market is the reinsurers that come back into the market in a big way for the premiums to start to come down. And in terms of storm damage, we haven't had anything material. Speaker 200:29:12We've had obviously some leaks and some minor things, but nothing material related to the storms. Speaker 1100:29:20Okay, that's helpful. Again, I know it's so hard to like quantify because there's a waterfall at every tranche of the coverage, but is there a way to give a number of like your captive exposure, like what percentage of total liability does fall on the company Versus 3rd party? It seems like more and more REITs are growing their captives or using their captives more. I just wonder if there's a way to benchmark It seems so convoluted. Speaker 100:29:49Yes, that's hey, it's Angela here. That's a tough one to quantify because even though there are more rates Looking at the captive, and then I think it makes sense to do so. Everyone approach how they take first loss and that first layer differently. And so I don't know if you can really get apples to apples. We'll look into and see if there's a better way to provide some additional context. Speaker 200:30:15And the other thing I would just add on that is we've had a captive for decades And we have a marketable securities portfolio of over $100,000,000 which is the premiums that we would have paid to third parties that are there to backstop any major insurance loss that we have. So we do have a substantial amount of money sitting there on our balance sheet because of that. Speaker 1100:30:40Okay. That's very helpful. Have you grown the exposure in recent years or not necessarily? Speaker 200:30:47Not necessarily. We will ebb and flow earthquake depending on the earthquake premiums that are out there because sometimes The earthquake coverage can be extreme. So we will look at that in a different way, but we do have 3rd earthquake on all high rises and 5 stories and up. But outside of that, we haven't taken on any real significant risk in the last few years. Speaker 1100:31:15Okay. All right. Thank you. I'm sure we'll talk about this more. Operator00:31:19Our next question is from Adam Kramer with Morgan Please proceed with your question. Speaker 1200:31:25Hey, guys. Just wanted to ask you about kind of the new versus renewal spread. I know it's been talked about a little bit already, but wondering if you were to look over whether it's a long run average or maybe go back to kind of prior recessions even and use that as kind of the test case. Wondering what the kind of spread historically was between new and renewals? Speaker 100:31:48Hey, Adam, it's Angela here. That one the relationship between renewal and new lease rates is really driven by what the prior year's new lease rate is. So for example, in 2022, our market rents or new lease rates were north of 11%. And so that, of course, means that you can have a much higher renewal rate to take it to market. And so that relationship really will be driven by whatever the market rent is going to be and the renewal then follows. Speaker 100:32:25It's really a lagging effect. So there isn't an exact number that you really can peg just because it's really one follows the other, not so much that there is a logical or relationship that you could just use as a benchmark for trending purposes. Speaker 1200:32:46Got it. That's really helpful. Thanks, Angela. And just on the On kind of prep equity, you may be getting kind of more and more money back from that than you have in the past. And I know in the past you've asked about kind of, hey, would you look at other markets in the U. Speaker 1200:33:03S, right, other markets outside of the West Coast? And maybe with getting kind of more proceeds back for a fact we have a little bit more dry powder. Yes, that could enable you to maybe take a harder look at some markets outside the last year. So I figured I'd ask that question. Speaker 100:33:20Hey, Adam. No, that's a good question. We actually Have I know this is not a surprise we get this question on a regular basis and it's fair to ask. We have historically a disciplined approach when it comes to evaluating markets, not just within our own markets. And so we do look at all the major metros across the U. Speaker 100:33:43S. And it's part of our annual study to make sure that We have a good handle on what are driving the fundamentals of other markets as well. And so This is not to say that we wouldn't venture into other markets or take whatever proceeds available. It's really a function of how we view the relative value. And what I mean by that is, as I mentioned earlier, when we look at The fundamentals of our markets with recovery ahead of us with potential demand catalysts from these large companies and low supply and affordability metrics, that just speaks to the fact that our markets has much more upside and lower risk from supply. Speaker 100:34:39And so it's more compelling in the near term to focus our investments in our markets. We will of course continue to watch the other markets and make sure that relative value holds. Speaker 1200:34:55Great. Thanks for the time. Operator00:34:59Our next question is from Joshua Dennerlein with Bank of Speaker 800:35:11Sending out renewals at 3%, 3.5% right now, but your guide assumes 1.75% for the full year. I think some of that might just have to do with the free rent burn off. But can you maybe walk us through the cadence of when we get past that free rent burn off and when things start trend down to 1.75 because I assume the second half of the year is actually weaker than the 1.75 Speaker 100:35:37Hey, Josh. It's Angela here. We are seeing that the benefit of the concession burn off to begin to abate as we head into the Q2. And that's why as Barb mentioned that you'll see that renewal rates to start to converge to that 1.25% market rent. So that's hopefully that's the cadence that answers your cadence question. Speaker 800:36:09Okay. Yes. That's good. And then maybe just one more. For the same store revenue range, Could you walk us through the assumptions that get us to the high and low end of the same store revenue range of 70 basis points to 2.7%, mostly focused on like blends and occupancy assumptions underlying that? Speaker 200:36:33Yes, Josh, this is Barb. There's a lot of different assumptions that go into the high and the low end. I think the biggest will be delinquency and market rent growth that could drive us to either the high or the low end. And As we saw like in the Q3 when we or the Q4 when we got back a lot of delinquent units, it can have an impact, a temporary impact to our occupancy and to market rent if we get those units back in a low demand period. So there's a variety of assumptions related to that on Speaker 600:37:03the high and the low end. Okay. Speaker 800:37:09I'll follow-up. All right. Appreciate that. Thank you. Operator00:37:13Our next question is from Wes Golladay with Baird. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 1300:37:18Hey, everyone. Can you give us the balance on the 2 non accrual investments. And then can you also comment on what the $20,000,000 non core G and A charges this year? Speaker 200:37:29Yes. So the 2 that we put on non accrual, the balance is $25,000,000 for both. And in terms of the $20,000,000 that we have in our guidance, that's mostly related to political contributions. As you know, we're fighting a couple of ballot measures. So that's most of what that's for. Speaker 1300:37:51Okay, thanks for that. And then I guess maybe bigger picture, supply is still relatively low at the portfolio level and rent growth is, call it, low 1%. Is it just mainly the markets with heavy supply bringing that the blend down for you. You also mentioned something in the comments earlier about the job growth is being driven by service related jobs. So I'm just wondering if the job mix is also playing a big part of the forecast this year. Speaker 100:38:18Hey, Wes. Speaker 200:38:22On the Speaker 100:38:22rents for our guidance, it's a couple of factors. So first is what you mentioned, the service sector jobs, which has been which has dominated the job growth last year. And we've all seen the announcements recently. Lots of companies are still retooling and reevaluating. And so Typically, if you look at the long term average of our job growth and the composition, normally you would want about 30% of those jobs to come from higher wage jobs. Speaker 100:38:58And so in this environment, which With the consensus, the macro consensus of a soft landing, we certainly wouldn't be forecasting, wouldn't be getting ahead of them forecasting robust high wage job growth. And so that's one key factor. As far as supply, you're right. Our for our portfolio, it's only 0.5% for California. Seattle is elevated And close to 1% and higher than last year. Speaker 100:39:32Fortunately for us, it's We concentrated in the downtown area and our portfolio is mostly on the East side. Having said that, there will be some properties that will have to that will be impacted by supply and we'll see concessions elevated on a temporary basis for those assets. Speaker 1300:39:57Okay. Thank you for that. Operator00:40:01Our next question is from John Pawlowski with Green Street. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 500:40:07Thanks for the time. Barb, I wanted to follow-up on your comments on your quarterly process of remarking the values in your preferred equity book and making sure Your dollar basis is safe. Are you able to share a rough average loan to value in your prep book right now As on real values not lagged kind of third party appraised values? Speaker 200:40:33I don't have that in front of me. And I think it varies by asset. So I don't have that in front of me. But it does matter about The rent growth that we've seen in each asset for each property and how we underwrote it initially, that all plays into fact where we are in the capital stack. But like I said, we do a thorough scrub and we feel comfortable with the book. Speaker 500:41:01Okay. One more for you, Barb. How much success, if any, have you had Seeing past written off rent from tenants that have moved out. I'm just not I don't have a good sense of how much T's you guys have to go after credit scores and how much you're able to actually collect from the huge kind of cumulative written off rent balance? Speaker 200:41:24Yes, it's a small component of our monthly collections. We are collecting A little bit every month on that past due rent because we have hit their credit and gone after them. But it and because of our conservative approach to how we account for bad debt whereby if you're delinquent after 30 days, we we reserve against it in the financials. When we go and hit their credit and they need their credit, they will start to pay. So we've It is a reoccurring part of our income given how we account for it, but it's hard to quantify and it is lumpy. Speaker 200:42:01It moves around month to month. And we do expect it will be a reoccurring part for the foreseeable future given we have over $130,000,000 in uncollected rent. Speaker 1100:42:12But it Speaker 200:42:12will be a small part, but it will be drips and drabs. Speaker 1400:42:17Okay. All right. Thank you very much. Operator00:42:22Our next question is from John Kim with BMO Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 500:42:28Thank you. I wanted to go back to your market rent forecast of 1.25% for the year, which is below what you had a year ago. Angela mentioned on the prepared remarks, layoff announcements have come down quite a bit year over year. So I was just wondering, are you seeing more move outs due to job losses this year versus a year ago when it seemed like tech layoffs were a lot more prevalent? Speaker 100:42:54Hey, John, it's Angela here. We have not seen more move outs due to job loss and we do track When we look at move out reasons, it's relatively stable. And so our market outlook is really a function of where the economy is and how we believe we would perform relative to the overall economy. Speaker 500:43:20Okay. So just projecting Speaker 1400:43:23the unemployment rate moving up. Yes. Speaker 200:43:27And I think, John, just to add to that, I think the mix of jobs has been We've seen a change in mix over the last year as the high quality jobs have not been added in mostly sector, as Angela mentioned earlier. And I think that, that is we just don't see that changing in this environment given the slow economy. So that could change. That would be upside to the forecast, but it's not our base case at this point. And that's what's driving the below average. Speaker 500:44:01Can I clarify on the impairment that you had in your preferred? Do you still have a position in this asset or was it was a loan fully written off due to the recapitulation or some other kind of event? Speaker 200:44:14We still have our investment in the asset, but because our the loan and our investment matures in October this year and because we don't feel we'll fully realize our valuation by the end of the term of our maturity of our loan, We impaired the asset, which is consistent with GAAP accounting rules. We do believe in the asset long term and the market long term, we're obviously in a very depressed market in Oakland and but it's going to take time for that market to recover. We need to see supply abate, which we will start to happen in 2025 and really into 2026 and that should bring rents up. And so that will help our investment long term. The sponsor continues to fund equity shortfalls and is actively putting money into the project and we are working actively with them on the refi that will be coming up here in the fall. Speaker 500:45:17What is the likelihood you put more capital into the project or take ownership of the asset? Speaker 200:45:25I think that will be determined as we work through the refinance and based on the sponsors' response to the refinance. So it's a little too early and premature to Talk about that. We'll know more as we work through that this summer. Speaker 500:45:41Okay, great. Thank you. Operator00:45:44Our next question is from Michael Goldsmith with UBS. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 1500:45:50Good afternoon. Thanks a lot for taking my question. How is demand trending in your markets? And if you can quantify that in any way like number of property tours that would be helpful. Like in a market like Seattle, does increased supply in the urban core combined with return to office draw residents away from the More suburban Essex properties. Speaker 600:46:12Hi, Michael. This is Jessica. I can provide you some basics, I guess as far as how leasing fundamentals are going in our markets. And it's really trending as expected in all of our markets Right now, when we're looking at things like lead volume is steadily increasing, which is what we would expect this time of year and then also leasing activity overall is stable. As far as quantifying it goes, I mean, we really see that increase in demand that we would expect, of course, correlates to whatever sequential rent growth that we see. Speaker 600:46:48And we pointed that out earlier, we saw good growth in both NorCal and Seattle, and that's something that is in part due to concession burn off. Those are our most seasonal markets, So we do expect them to grow more substantially on a sequential basis. But overall, they're performing as expected in line with what we would expect this time of year. Speaker 1500:47:15Thanks for that. And my follow-up question is on rent control. Have you seen any change in the rent control environment in your markets? And then given that it's an election year, does that create a little bit more noise in a traditional year? Thanks. Speaker 100:47:35Hey, Michael. In an environment where we're looking at 1.25 percent market rent growth, We certainly don't expect an elevated concern when it comes to the rent control conversation. Now there is, I think, many of you are aware that there is a proposition out there to repeal Costa Hawkins. Once again, sponsored by Michael Weinstein, the Head of the AIDS Foundation. And we, Of course, participate in the housing coalition that supports responsible legislation, and we do not view that this proposal to repeal the Costa Hawkins Housing Act will have traction because It's this is the 3rd time that this proposal has come up. Speaker 100:48:27And in the past two times, It was overwhelmingly defeated. I mean, only one out of 58 counties voted in favor of repealing Cross Hawkins and they and that was by a narrow margin. And it lacks the governance and general political support. It is viewed as an anti growth proposal that will deter housing production when we already have a housing shortage. And so that but that is one that we are watching carefully. Speaker 100:48:58But beyond that, it's that's a normal operating environment for us from a legislative perspective. Speaker 1500:49:07Thank you very much. Good luck in 2024. Speaker 100:49:11Thank you. Operator00:49:13Our next question is from Rich Anderson with Wedbush. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 1600:49:17Hey, good morning, everyone. So Barb, you said one of the swing factors for you is getting back delinquent units and perhaps into a downtime in the rental market and not knowing what that opportunity would present itself. But I imagine it would be either 0 or something more and it's just a matter of when that something more hits. Is that it? Because obviously the delinquent unit wasn't paying rent. Speaker 1600:49:44I want to make sure I understand that logically what you're saying there. Speaker 200:49:48Yes. So yes, and we can take the example of what happened in September, commensurately. And then when we backfilled, we gave back a little bit on the rent growth. And so there was A small impact to the bottom line, but it didn't all fall to the bottom line. Long term, it's beneficial for us, but there is a temporary headwind, especially if you get the units back in a low demand period because then you have to give concessions to backfill those units. Speaker 200:50:29If we get the units back during peak leasing season and we have strong peak leasing season, there will be less impact To occupancy and rent growth. Speaker 1400:50:38But why would there be Speaker 1600:50:39an impact negatively if they weren't paying rent? Cares what the occupancy was if there were 0 rent coming in anyway? I'm just curious, I'm not sure I understand why there would be a negative number in that scenario? It would be either 0 or something more. Speaker 100:50:57Yes. So I think from your Question from your perspective, the absolute number is right now we're going from 0 to something. So you can't be below 0. But keep in mind, the way Barb has outlined the guidance, we are assuming an improvement in delinquency, which means we will need to get We do need to convert some of those zeros into a positive number just to be at the point. Operator00:51:24Yes. Okay, perfect. That's helpful. Speaker 1600:51:26Yes. Thank you. And then, so where there are problems in the bank industry and as it touches multifamily, it's in the rent regulated area. We've seen that in New York Community and Signature Portfolios and so on, rent regulated can California can be described with that phrase, I assume. I'm curious to what degree you're seeing anything popping up and if this was covered earlier, I apologize. Speaker 1600:51:51But is there are you In a position to jump on opportunities, is there a pipeline building of sort of these sort of distressed situations, maturities coming, anything like that, that is interesting to you? Or is it not really sort of apparently happening at this point as an external growth opportunity for Essex? Thanks. Speaker 700:52:17Hi, Rich. I'll echo what many of our peers have said is we're not currently seeing much distressed selling at all in our markets. Given the amount of debt coming due in the next couple of years, we anticipate there should be some opportunities, but as of yet, we have yet to really see any forced selling. So we are keeping our eyes open and looking for opportunities, But nothing as of yet. Speaker 1600:52:45Okay. Thanks so much. Operator00:52:50Our next question is from Linda Tsai with Jefferies. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 200:52:56Hi. In terms of the $134,000,000 in receivables, are there different ways to chip away at that, like get debt collectors involved or Just anything operationally you can do to get your money back faster? Yes, Linda. We are this is Barb. We are pursuing 3 avenue to try to collect on that money, whether it be taken to small claims court, we've ding their credit. Speaker 200:53:26And like I said, we are collecting little bits here and there, but it depends on when they need their credit. And when they need their credit, then they tend to come back and pay. But if they don't need their credit for a long time, then it can sit out there. But Every avenue we can pursue, we are pursuing to try to collect on that money. Got it. Speaker 200:53:48And then just in terms of getting units back in a low demand period where it's more negative for you, like what are some of the determinants for The timing of when you do get those units back and how do you forecast that to the extent you can? Speaker 100:54:06Linda, that's the $64,000 question of the day. When do we get these darn units back? And for us, it will be great to get them back as soon as possible. The challenge here is that once a unit is in eviction, When we looked at the 4th quarter, the majority of those tenants just leave. So what that means is for us, normally In a normal environment, we have notices that a tenant is going to vacate. Speaker 100:54:39We can pre lease these units. We can plan for turnover and of course coordinated marketing efforts and Our site personnel is ready for the move out, move ins and all those logistics. In a situation where We have a certain number of evictions in play and we don't know how many are going to come back or when. That's the part that creates that pressure when it comes to pricing, and it's very difficult to predict. Thank you. Operator00:55:17Our next question is from Buck Horne with Raymond James. Please with your question. Speaker 1400:55:23Thanks. Appreciate the time. I was wondering if going to the delinquency issue, if you could maybe Add a little color, if you're seeing any systemic application fraud or upticks in just application fraud or identity fraud or other types of misrepresentations by tenants, is this something that's kind of spreading on social media that's becoming more of a structural issue? Speaker 100:55:50Hey, Buck. It's Angela here. We have been our team has done a great job staying on top of these potential issues. And when we look at the fraud instances, it has not ticked up or become elevated. And In some instances, say, if it's a building specific issue, we immediately remedied those. Speaker 100:56:12And So that really hasn't been a driver for whether it's behavior or impact to our financials. It really is driven by the court processing time. So I'll give you an example. When a tenant goes delinquent, pre COVID, it only took us about, say, 2 months on average to evict this tenant. Because of the court delays, it's 6 months plus, right, or 8 months if you're in L. Speaker 100:56:45A. And so that's the time that's getting accumulated. And so we normally have a level of delinquency in our portfolio, But it's elevated now because it's just taking longer. Speaker 1400:56:59Got you. Okay. That's helpful. I appreciate the color there. And just as it relates to your future investment opportunities or kind of how you think about capital allocation between Urban core or suburban assets and opportunities in your core markets, you're saying there's a lot of upside yet to be achieved in the West Coast markets and some significant recovery potential. Speaker 1400:57:25Do you think that applies to the downtown urban cores of L. A, San Fran, Seattle, is that where you would look to allocate additional dollars first? Or do you think the suburban submarkets would continue to outperform? Speaker 700:57:41Hi, Buck. It's a good question. Obviously, investment returns driven by what you prep pay. So we are paying attention to everything that's coming to market and we'll keep an open mind to any investment. A major consideration for us is also making sure that we are acquiring near our existing footprints. Speaker 700:58:00Given our unique operating model, we think we can add a lot of value when it's purchased when we buy something near an existing asset collection. Now as you know, the majority of those assets happen to be in the suburban market and that is where we're primarily focused. They also have fewer quality of life issues currently. So a simple answer is we are very focused in our suburban footprint, but we will keep an open mind to anything that crosses our broader markets. Speaker 1400:58:30Got it. Appreciate it. Operator00:58:31All right. Thanks, guys. Good luck. Thank you. There are no further questions at this time. Operator00:58:39This does conclude today's conference.Read morePowered by