NASDAQ:CORZ Core Scientific Q4 2023 Earnings Report $6.78 -0.07 (-1.02%) As of 01:19 PM Eastern Earnings HistoryForecast Core Scientific EPS ResultsActual EPS-$0.20Consensus EPS -$0.03Beat/MissMissed by -$0.17One Year Ago EPSN/ACore Scientific Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$141.93 millionExpected Revenue$133.10 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$8.83 millionYoY Revenue GrowthN/ACore Scientific Announcement DetailsQuarterQ4 2023Date3/12/2024TimeN/AConference Call DateTuesday, March 12, 2024Conference Call Time4:30PM ETUpcoming EarningsCore Scientific's Q1 2025 earnings is scheduled for Tuesday, May 6, 2025, with a conference call scheduled on Wednesday, May 7, 2025 at 4:30 PM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Annual Report (10-K)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Core Scientific Q4 2023 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrMarch 12, 2024 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 11 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Hello, and welcome to the Core Scientific Incorporated Fiscal 4th Quarter and Full Year 2023 Earnings Conference Call. My name is Harry, and I'll be coordinating your call today. I will now hand you over to Stephen Gitlin, Senior Vice President, Investor Relations and Marketing at Core Scientific to begin. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:21Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to Core Scientific's fiscal year 2023 earnings conference call. This is Stephen Gitlin, Senior Vice President of Investor Relations for Core Scientific. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. We will conduct a question and answer session after management's remarks. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded for replay purposes. Speaker 100:00:43Before we begin, please note that on this call, certain information presented contains forward looking statements within the meaning of the Safe Harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Forward looking statements include, without limitation, any statements other than historical or current facts that predict or indicate future events or trends, forecast, performance or achievements and may contain words such as believe, anticipate, expect, estimate, intend, project, plan or words or phrases with similar meaning. Forward looking statements are based on current expectations, forecasts and assumptions that involve risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially. For further information on these risks and uncertainties, we encourage you to review the risk factors discussed in the company's annual report on Form 10 ks filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission and the special note regarding forward looking statements contained in the company's current report on Form 8 ks filed today and the earnings release and slide presentation contained therein. Today's presentation is available on our website at corescientific.com in the Events and Presentations section. Speaker 100:01:50The content of this conference call contains time sensitive information that is accurate only as of today, March 12, 2024. The company undertakes no obligation to make any revision to any forward looking statements contained in our remarks today or to update them to reflect the events or circumstances occurring after today. Joining me today from Core Scientific are CEO, Mr. Adam Sullivan Chief Financial Officer, Mrs. Denise Sterling. Speaker 100:02:16We will now begin with remarks from Adam Sullivan. Adam? Speaker 200:02:19Thank you, Steve, and good afternoon. I'd like to begin by highlighting a few key points that help frame Core Scientific's leading position in our industry. As illustrated on Slide 3, Core Scientific is one of the largest Bitcoin miners in North America, earning more Bitcoin than any other listed company in 2021, 2022 2023. Moving now to Slide 4. We generated $502,000,000 in revenue in 2023, more than any other listed miner in North America. Speaker 200:02:52We own our 7 24 megawatts of infrastructure that translates into 23.2 exahash as of December 31 and 25.2xahash as of February 29. We are diversifying our hosting customer base beyond Bitcoin Mining into high performance computing with our recently announced contract to host Core Wave. And we are well positioned for the having continuously improving our fleet efficiency with a pathway to delever our balance sheet, a plan to add more than 20x.5 of self mining cash rate over the coming years and I believe we have the best team in our industry. This being my first earnings conference call since taking the role of CEO, I'd like to express my gratitude to our Board members and our leadership team for their support. I'd also like to acknowledge the hard work and dedication of every member of the Core Scientific team. Speaker 200:03:47You stayed focused during the restructuring process, you maintained our market leadership position and you bring our values to life every single day. The restructuring lasted for the entirety of 2023. And it was not a key period for the company. But we persevered, learned from the experience and have built what I believe to be the best company in our industry. One of the main reasons I joined Core Scientific in 2023 was the quality of the team and its ability to scale its own infrastructure rapidly and efficiently. Speaker 200:04:21It was the 1st company to energize 100, 250, and 500 Megawatts for Bitcoin mining in North America at a time when very few came anywhere close to that scale and even fewer met their growth targets. And by owning our own infrastructure, we can deliver financial, operational and strategic advantages that I will address later. It's a privilege for me to leave this company and I'm incredibly grateful and excited about this opportunity. Building on strong momentum from 2023, Core Scientific has entered an exciting new chapter in our history. On today's call, I will speak to 3 key elements of this new chapter: the strength of our fundamental business, our preparations for the Avon and the opportunities ahead of us. Speaker 200:05:05Denise Sterling will then share some key financial and operational metrics before I return to our closing comments and then we'll take your questions. Now let's talk about the strength of our business highlighted on our earnings presentation. A total of 19,274 Bitcoin were mined in our data centers, 13,762 by self mining for our account more than any other public listed miner in North America. We operated the largest infrastructure for Bitcoin mining in North America with 7.24 energized megawatts. We ended 2023 with 16.9 exahash of self mining hash rate and 6.3 exahash of hosting hash rate for a total of 23.2 exahash. Speaker 200:05:53We demonstrated superior productivity earning higher than average Bitcoin per Energize Xa has. We are a Bitcoin miner and we develop and operate data centers. Less known is that we create technology solutions that support large fleets of computers. But as emphasized on Slide 5, what we really do 20 fourseven, 365 is transform energy into high value compute with superior efficiency at scale. We do this by designing, building and operating high power digital infrastructure in which hundreds of thousands of computers operate with high uptime and high productivity. Speaker 200:06:32The high value compute we focus on today is Bitcoin mining and our position in this market is strong. Owning our 7 24 megawatts of infrastructure shown in more detail on Slide 6 results in a lower cost to mine than if we relied on others to host our miners because we don't have to pay anyone a margin above their hosting costs. We have an organic growth plan for completing another 372 contracted megawatts of partially built infrastructure at our 2 Texas sites and an incremental cost per megawatt of only about $200,000 or less than half of the cost of greenfield infrastructure. We plan to fund that growth from operating cash flow, a lesson we learned from our experience prior to our restructuring. This new infrastructure represents more than 20x.5 of new Hash rate planned for the coming years. Speaker 200:07:25In addition to our strong operational results in 2023, we also delivered strong financial results, starting with revenue of $502,000,000 While we experienced a net loss for the year of $247,000,000 it was mostly driven by $190,000,000 in reorganization items associated with our restructuring, which are now mostly behind us. In 2023, we generated strong adjusted EBITDA of $170,000,000 up from negative $10,700,000 in the prior year. We generate cash flow by earning and selling Bitcoin efficiently. Beyond our financial performance in 2023, which Denise will review in more detail, We also took the opportunity to evaluate our business carefully during our restructuring and made a number of changes that have strengthened our organization highlighted on Slide 7. We emerged with a stronger balance sheet and a pathway to deliver further based on convertible debt conversion and warrant exercises. Speaker 200:08:28We instilled rigor and discipline in capital allocation, crafting an organic growth plan funded out of operating cash flow. We reduced our spending and implemented a hedging strategy on power to manage our downside risk. We rationalized our hosting business, reducing the number of customers to a smaller set of financially strong companies and implementing new contracts designed to create more value for our shareholders through proceed sharing. We also paid off our debt financing utilizing free cash flow well in reorganization and we completed a successful oversubscribed equity rights offering prior to our emergence. Lastly, we strengthened our self mining business in a number of important ways that I will detail shortly. Speaker 200:09:14Across these and other areas, we made tremendous progress over the past year and now having re listed on NASDAQ are excited at the opportunity to remain at the forefront of Bitcoin mining in North America. Now let's discuss the upcoming happen. In our business, scale is important, but it's insufficient. We must deploy our resources and operate with superior efficiency to address the inherent volatility of our industry and the upcoming avenue in particular. Publicly reported data shows that our Hash rate utilization based on the number of bitcoins we earned per average Energize ex I Hash has exceeded the average for our peer group in the last 12 months. Speaker 200:09:54It is shown on Slide 8. It is much easier to operate efficiently with a small operation and much more difficult at scale. We continue to deliver superior efficiency at scale. Efficiency is critical to any business. To prepare our business better for the volatility we expect around the having, we've accomplished the following shown on Slide 9. Speaker 200:10:17We continue to deploy new Bitcoin miners to expand our hash rate and replace older less efficient machines. By doing so, we improved fleet energy efficiency to 27.94joules per terahash by December 31, 2023 and at the end of February 2024 to 26.79 joules per terahash. We've accelerated delivery and deployment of our 2.5xihash of new S-twenty 1s through the first half of the year, which will improve our fleet efficiency even further. Levering our strong software development capabilities, we deployed our own proprietary firmware, TAR Miners, to generate greater profitability and create greater flexibility. We are able to optimize the machine performance based on power price changes as well as weather and facility level variables such as temperature, wind and pressure. Speaker 200:11:10This results in greater profitability and varying levels of economics creating greater profitability at both lower and higher cash prices. We have optimized our fleet by reallocating miners to different locations based on their energy efficiency, aligning them with individual data center, environmental conditions and power rigs. We implemented a power hedging strategy for the first time to minimize the impact of energy price volatility on our financial performance and we've conducted rigorous scenario planning to determine what responses deliver the best result based on a variety of having driven cash price assumptions. Our focus on efficiency has delivered positive financial results. In 2023, we reduced cash operating expenses by 27% year over year. Speaker 200:11:59We will continue to manage expenses carefully, work to improve efficiency and continue preparing for the expected cash price volatility around the Havin. The strength of our business combined with our focus on efficiency and preparation for the halving position us very well to remain a leader in the Bitcoin mining industry. The fact that we own our own infrastructure and possess unique capabilities and talent position us very well for emerging opportunities in other areas of high value compute. Owning our infrastructure provides financial, operational and strategic advantages. 1st, owning our infrastructure lowers our cost to mine, producing self mining gross profit of 25% in 2023. Speaker 200:12:43It also gives us the flexibility to quickly and easily refresh our miners to generate higher cash rates in the same operating power, increasing our productivity and profit. 2nd, because it's our infrastructure, we can develop and deploy the new technology solutions that I mentioned earlier that help us boost productivity and operating efficiency. This includes firmware, power management software and fleet management software. These solutions enable us to participate in programs offered by the utilities in different locations that can generate value for us. There is so much more we can do with our deep technical capabilities that would be difficult or impossible to do if we did not own our own infrastructure. Speaker 200:13:29And third, we believe that the value of our own infrastructure will only increase over time as the demand for available high power firm generation sites grows with the rapid growth of HPC and AI cloud market, we believe that more opportunities will emerge to host clients such as Corweave. To that point, our new multiyear hosting contract with Corweave, an industry leader in GPU accelerated workloads is valued at more than $100,000,000 over the term of the contract. This new contract diversifies our hosting customer portfolio and enhances our potential to increase shareholder value by expanding our hosting business to customers engaged in important growing segments of the compute market. As a reminder, we hosted GPUs in our data centers for several years and even built a Tier 3 data center within one of our sites. Also, the majority of our data center operations team and its leaders come from the data center industry, providing us with a deep understanding of the requirements and operating mechanics of infrastructure to service high performance computing. Speaker 200:14:37In fact, our Head of Data Center Operations built and ran the very data center we have leased to host Corweave when he worked for HP. Let me make it clear. We are fully focused on Bitcoin mining at scale. At the same time, we are uniquely positioned to address these emerging high value compute hosting opportunities as they evolve representing strategic optionality for us and for you our shareholders. With that as an overview of the state of the business, I'd like to invite Denise Erling to provide some context to key financial and operating results in 2023. Speaker 200:15:12Denise? Speaker 300:15:13Thank you, Adam. It's good to be here with you today. I'll begin by highlighting key income statement items. On a year over year basis, 2023 revenue of $502,400,000 declined by $138,000,000 or 22 percent from $640,300,000 in 2022. Dollars 130,000,000 of that decline was due to reducing the number of customers in our hosting business to improve its margin profile and sustainability and exiting the equipment sales business in 2023, which had contributed meaningfully to revenue in 2022. Speaker 300:15:51Cost of revenue decreased by $253,000,000 down 40% to $378,900,000 from $631,900,000 for the fiscal year 2022. The decrease in cost of revenue was primarily attributable to $128,100,000 of decreased depreciation driven by a fiscal 2022 non cash impairment adjustment to the depreciable base for our deployed self mining units, $67,100,000 of lower equipment sales costs due to our exit from the equipment sales business in 2022, $41,800,000 of lower power cost and lower stock based compensation of $20,700,000 as prior year included accelerated vesting of awards as well as a decrease in equity awards granted during fiscal year 2023. As a result of our focus on efficiency, as Adam indicated, we reduced our cash operating expenses by 27%. This improvement was mainly the result of a significant reduction of professional fees and a decrease in headcount and related personnel costs as we streamlined our organizational design to increase our operating efficiency. Our net loss decreased by $1,900,000,000 or 89 percent from $2,100,000,000 in 2022 to approximately $246,500,000 in 2023. Speaker 300:17:16This decrease was driven mainly by a decline in non cash impairments of $1,900,000,000 an improvement in gross margin of $115,100,000 lower operating expenses of $144,900,000 partially offset by bankruptcy related reorganization expenses of $191,100,000 in 2023. 2023 adjusted EBITDA of $170,000,000 increased by $180,700,000 from a negative $10,700,000 in 2022. As a percentage of revenue, 2023 adjusted EBITDA grew to 34% of revenue versus a negative 1.7% in 2022. Because power is our single largest component of our cost of revenue, I'd like to provide some additional background. We have power contracts with grid operators for each of our data centers. Speaker 300:18:13These contracts vary in price and terms. Fleetway power cost averaged $0.444 in 2023. We project power cost in 2024 of between $0.045 and $0.047 We currently operate in both regulated and unregulated markets. In regulated markets, we are limited in our ability to manage the risk of power prices. In Texas, we implemented a hedging strategy for the first time on 50 megawatts of power to our Pecos data center. Speaker 300:18:45While stable winter power prices did not result in significant savings from this strategy in 2023, we protected ourselves against downside risk and we established the processes necessary to engage in hedging at a larger scale and at other locations. Today, we operate 2 segments, self mining and hosting. As shown on Slide 12, in 2023, our self mining to hosting mix was 76% to 24%. We plan to expand our self mining fleet as we add infrastructure capacity as well as refresh our less efficient miners to increase efficiency and productivity. As we expand our self mining fleet, we expect the mix to change over time. Speaker 300:19:29Our 2023 self mining and hosting gross margins were 25% 22% respectively as compared to 1% 2% in 2022. The significant improvement in year over year self mining gross margin was due to decreases in depreciation and stock based compensation and an increase in our self mining hash rate. The significant improvement in our hosting gross margin was due to the rationalization of our hosting business that Adam addressed earlier. A critical driver to our operating efficiency and the preparation for the having is the composition of our self mining fleet. As Adam indicated, our fleet wide average energy efficiency was 26.79 Jules for Terahash as of February 29, 2024, and we expect continued improvement as we deploy new S-twenty one minuteers this year. Speaker 300:20:23As of the year end 2023, we operated approximately 158,000 minuteers in our self mining fleet. The model mix shown on Slide 13 is 13% S-nineteen, 71% S19 Pro and S19 J Pros and 16% S19J XP. Now I'd like to discuss the strength of our balance sheet and cash commitments. As illustrated on Slide 14, we reduced our debt by approximately $400,000,000 at Emergent to $608,000,000 as compared to just over $1,000,000,000 at the end of 2023. $260,000,000 of our debt at emergence consisted of secured convertible notes and the remaining $348,000,000 included several non convertible instruments. Speaker 300:21:11We have summarized the terms of these debt instruments on Slide 15, including facility size, interest rate, maturity and conversion as applicable. Slide 16 illustrates our pathway to reducing and potentially eliminating our debt. 1st, a stock price of $5.83 will put the convertible notes in the money and a price of $7.79 will trigger their mandatory conversion. Full conversion of these notes will result in an issuance of an additional 45,000,000 shares and a $260,000,000 reduction in debt to $348,000,000 assuming no other changes. Next, the exercise price of the tranche 1 warrant is $6.81 Because these are cash warrants, their full exercise would result in approximately $670,000,000 in cash to Core Scientific, half of which we are required to use to pay down our debt. Speaker 300:22:10As our net debt following the equitization of our secured convertible notes amounts to $348,000,000 the receipt of $670,000,000 would be more than sufficient to clear the balance sheet assuming no other changes. The full exercise of Tranche 1's warrants would also result in the issuance of an additional 98,000,000 shares. As summarized on Slide 16, the pathway to completely delevering our balance sheet based on the performance of our company and company stock is within our reach. We have structured our 2024 plan to fund our operations and growth out of operating cash flow, including debt service, which is summarized on Slide 17. We expect to pay a total of $71,000,000 $31,000,000 in principal and $40,000,000 in interest and debt amortization in 2024. Speaker 300:23:01The majority of our existing debt matures in 20282029. Please refer to Slide 15 for the terms associated with our debt instruments. Adam previously discussed our infrastructure expansion plans over the coming years. In 2024, we plan to spend approximately $20,000,000 to complete 72 megawatts of infrastructure in Texas, which we will fund out of operating cash flow. Operating cash flow will also fund the cost of new miners to be deployed and energized from that 72 megawatts. Speaker 300:23:33Moving now from CapEx, let's review our mining economics summarized on Slide 18. Our total cash cost to self mine in 2023 was $14,982 which represents our direct cash expenses of power of $12,528 and facilities operations cost of $2,454 allocated based on the percentage of our fleet dedicated to self mining divided by total Bitcoin self mined in 2023, that's 13,762. Another way to look at this is by calculating the cash based cash cost, which represents the cash expenses of power and facilities operations costs divided by our self mining fleet hash rate in Terahash. Our cash based cash cost in 2023 was $0.398 per terahash. Again, we expect our operating cash flow to be sufficient to support operating expenses, debt service and CapEx associated with organic growth plan in 2024. Speaker 300:24:40We are modeling a statutory effective tax rate of approximately 23% for 2024. We also have more than $300,000,000 in net operating loss carry forwards, which will reduce future cash taxes. Now I'll turn the call back to Adam to discuss our expectations for 2024. Speaker 200:24:58Thanks, Denise. As previously indicated in the business plan filed with the court, we expect the following results in 2024. We plan to complete 72 megawatts of partially built infrastructure at our Denton, Texas data center for a total of 796 megawatts by the end of 2024 and self mining hash rate of 21.8xahash. To summarize, CoreSite Q4 makes a leader in Bitcoin Mining with a strong business, significant progress preparing for the having and with potentially significant opportunities in other forms of high value compute hosting. We took the opportunity during our restructuring to improve our company and our team is engaged, aligned and laser focused on operating effectively and achieving our growth plans. Speaker 200:25:46We are excited about how well Core Scientific is performing and positioned and we look forward to updating you on our progress against our goals over the course of this year. I'm confident in the ability of our outstanding team to achieve superior results that earn your trust. Thank you for your time today. And now we will take your questions. Operator00:26:09We will now begin the question and answer session of today's call. Our first question today is from the line of Joe Flynn of Compass Point. Joe, your line is now open. Speaker 400:26:47Hi, guys. Looking to the Q1 with the stronger Bitcoin prices and Hash price and given that you guys have the benefit of having scale already and high hash rate utilization, Operator00:26:59you guys should be able Speaker 400:26:59to build a pretty strong cash position here. So my question is on just near term plans going forward with that cash, what's the balance between investing in growth, holding cash for rainy day into the having and also as it relates to your decision to pay cash interest or PIK interest? Speaker 200:27:18Yes. Thanks, Joe. Priority number 1 for us is executing on the business plan. So we've laid out the next the growth for the next 72 megawatts to add on to our base of 7 24 megawatts. And we believe that by executing on that business plan, it will provide a pathway to deleveraging for us. Speaker 200:27:35Priority 2 is paying down debt. That's definitely something that we've been eyeing as we've been looking forward over the course of 2024. But really, our top priority right now, execute on the business plan, continue operating with the best efficiency across the market. And we believe that will provide a pathway for us to delever our balance sheet over the course of 2024. Speaker 400:28:02Great. And then kind of question on the power prices. It looks like you guys saw a benefit there with 0 point $4 per kilowatt hour based probably on lower natural gas prices. But I guess one more color on maybe your existing power agreements whether those are pretty set in stone or are there further opportunities to get fixed price PPAs? And then also if you could just expand on your hedging strategy, if you can hedge additional megawatts, that would be helpful. Speaker 200:28:31Yes, of course. I mean, let's take a look at the power market more broadly first. I mean power right now in the United States is a very competitive game. Bitcoin miners are competing against well funded technology companies that are less sensitive to pricing. We view that as a big opportunity for us as a business, which we can talk about later. Speaker 200:28:49But going back to Bitcoin Mining, our power prices over the course of 2023 were $0.04 We have a split between regulated and unregulated markets inside of our portfolio. We're operating in 5 different states. The unregulated market is Texas. And so a lot of our power prices are fixed. Some of them have components that can fluctuate with different pricing like natural gas. Speaker 200:29:16And so we definitely have an eye towards further hedging programs like the one that we did at our Pecos location. But right now, what we're really focused on is not necessarily only achieving lower cost per Bitcoin, but it's also really focusing on areas where we can have high utilization. It's something that we really pride ourselves on and believe provides a better return on capital for the investments that we've made, not only in our infrastructure, but also our miners. So the power programs that we're participating in across regulated markets right now, it's some intermittency in exchange for lower power prices. And in Texas, in particular, looking at more short dated fixed price PPAs that give us the opportunity to capitalize on different market environments. Speaker 200:30:03That's what we're seeing across the state of Texas. Power prices are changing rapidly. And that's something that we want to be able to have the flexibility to execute on those types of opportunities. And so you saw the first one that we executed on over the course of the winter in Texas. Operator00:30:25Thank you. Our next question today comes from the line of John Todaro of Needham and Company. John, your line is now open. Speaker 100:30:32Great. Thanks for taking my question, guys. A little bit newer to the story, but would love to get a little bit more color on the coreweave contract. Any additional details you can drill down into there, such as kind of the operating margin profile we should be thinking about? And then as you do think longer term, is this a business you would like to get more into? Speaker 100:30:56And then just kind of expected CapEx if you were to get into the business on maybe a larger scale, kind of what is the cost per megawatt you would be thinking about? Speaker 200:31:10Yes. Let me address the first part of the question first. We're excited about bringing Corie back to the client. They were a client from 2019 to 2022 and Corie has become a major brand in this space, but they knew our capabilities and know that we're well positioned to support them. This first deal that we signed with the Austin location, our operations team has high familiarity with that site. Speaker 200:31:35Many of the team members that we have actually built and operated that site when they worked for HP. So how we're thinking about this business right now, it's a natural hedge against the Bitcoin mining business. This is priced how you'd see traditional data center deals priced, charging a fixed per kilowatt fee that's charged regardless of whether that capacity is utilized and a pass around things like power and utilities. We believe this deal is going to be accretive to 2024 and it's going to provide a strong return on the CapEx that we spent on the upgrades and the expansion of the electrical infrastructure at that site. The interesting part for us is how we're thinking about it going forward and really what we're seeing in this market. Speaker 200:32:21There's low availability of high megawatt power or high megawatt sites with firm generation power. And right now, infrastructure is a 3 to 5 year game. And on the power side, it's at least 2 years out if you go to any site today. We have the unique advantage where we can convert facilities that we have with a much lower timeframe. So we're looking at executing contracts with companies that have a preference for getting capacity on sooner rather than later. Speaker 200:32:53And right now, we're at a very interesting intersection between Bitcoin Mining and HPC, where we can be extraordinarily competitive on future site development, whether that's the 3 72 megawatts to complete on the Bitcoin mining side or whether it's on any of the existing infrastructure that we have, which is 300 megawatts within our existing footprint, that has the potential to convert to HPC like locations given their proximity to major metropolitan areas and also access to low latency to those metropolitan areas. So for us, we're looking forward to this business really from 2 perspectives. The first is continue to execute on the Bitcoin mining side with the partially developed infrastructure that we have. And then part 2 is looking at improving our business by improving the margins of our Bitcoin mining business by shifting potentially some of our existing sites to this new HPC business where we can have long term fixed price contracts that give us the opportunity to provide greater stability and free cash flow. Speaker 500:33:57Great. And sorry if I missed it, when Speaker 100:34:02does the revenue from the contract start kicking in? Speaker 200:34:08We expect the revenue from the contract for this to start showing up on our income statement at some point over the next few months. So that's something they'll look forward to over the course of the next few earnings calls. Speaker 100:34:23Got it. Thank you. Operator00:34:29Our next question today is from the line of Lucas Pipes of B. Riley. Lucas, your line is now open. Please go ahead. Speaker 600:34:35Thank you very much, operator. Good afternoon, everyone. Thanks for the update. Good to hear your voice. Adam, my first question is on the fleet upgrade. Speaker 600:34:46Can you remind us kind of the timing of the exahas additions in general kind of the size of the opportunity? And then I think you mentioned the CapEx budget earlier on the call, but if could just refresh that as well, I would appreciate it. Thank you. Speaker 200:35:05Sure. Good to hear from you, Lucas. So let's talk about the minor refresh more broadly first and we'll dig in. So on a minor refresh basis, what you see in our existing portfolio is a consistent roll into newer generation machines. That's why we have machines our average machine fleet today is about 26.79joules per teraash, but we're looking at consistent roll into newer generation machines and to do it on a more consistent basis. Speaker 200:35:32That's how we're thinking about this business going forward is constantly having the ability to refresh into lower CapEx cycles because if you refresh all of your machines at once, you're essentially creating maturity walls for that next CapEx cycle where you have to refresh your entire fleet. So you're seeing the first few deals that we've announced, the XP deal that was part of our emergence and then the S-twenty one deal that was also announced in January. The S-twenty one deal that was an opportunity where we actually were able to accelerate the delivery based on accelerating payments for that contract. And so we're actually pulling forward some of those deliveries to earlier part in Q2 of this year. So as we look forward to the rest of this year, we're going to look for more consistent machine purchases and we're going to be updating the market as we go forward. Speaker 200:36:21But we'd be looking to pay for those out of operating free cash flow as we've laid out in our business plan. On the infrastructure side, we're putting up 72 megawatts of infrastructure at Denton. That's going to cost us $20,000,000 to complete that site or to complete those next 72 megawatts. And so that would be paid for over the course of 2024. Speaker 600:36:45Got it. Thank you for that. And then on Slide 18, I have a question how to think about the operational cost. You show $0.65 per Para Hash and I assume that this is mostly a fixed cost. So as you kind of refresh net miners and that exahash, this doesn't really increase linearly, but would appreciate your thoughts on how to think about that number going forward in a rising exahash environment. Speaker 600:37:19Thank you. Speaker 200:37:21Yes, of course. So when you look at that on Page 18, referencing the $0.65 in Hash cost, Part of that is definitely a fixed cost of the operations team. But then there are also parts that are variable as well related to facility level expenses that are outside of the cost of power. So these are direct costs that are incurred and some of it would scale as we continue to scale our infrastructure fleet. But in terms of the amount of operating costs, this is something that we would expect to achieve operating leverage on going forward as we continue to increase the size of our infrastructure. Speaker 100:38:03All right. Speaker 600:38:04I appreciate it. I'll turn it over for now and best of luck. Thank you. Speaker 200:38:08Thanks Lucas. Operator00:38:12Our next question today is from the line of Rosemarie Sison of Odeon Capital Group. Rosemarie, your line is now open. Speaker 700:38:19Yes. Thank you. And thank you for taking the questions. I was curious about whether you would comment on the plan that was part of your bankruptcy filing, whether you believe that you are those numbers still kind of in line with your expectations at least for the current year? Speaker 200:38:37Yes. So the guidance that we gave at the end of the call was that our guidance is in line with our business plan. So developing the next 72 megawatts of infrastructure and the 21.8 exahash expected in our fleet by year end of 2024. So from the perspective of the business plan, we're really focused on that from a CapEx perspective and focused on it from a growth perspective. So those are really the 2 key areas that we believe will be consistent along with our business plan that was filed. Speaker 700:39:13Okay. Thank you for that. And do you expect that there could be any change in your power cost going forward? I mean, you obviously mentioned the cost that you expect coming up. Is that kind of set in stone? Speaker 700:39:27Or could there be variability to that power cost? Speaker 200:39:32We gave guidance of $0.045 to $0.047 There is potential to be a bit of a range on power prices, but this is something where we have high confidence in our ability to execute that range that we provided for this year. You look back previous years, there are events that can cause changes in natural gas pricing that can have potential effects not only in current years, but future years. But right now, we have high confidence in our ability to execute on the existing guidance that we provide related to power prices. Speaker 700:40:07All right, great. Thank you very much. Speaker 200:40:10Thanks Rosemarie. Operator00:40:14Our next question today is from the line of Joseph Baffei of Canaccord Genuity. Joseph, your line is now open. Speaker 800:40:30Coming having. I know you mentioned in your prepared remarks, your operating cost per Bitcoin. Clearly, at these spot prices, you're going to remain profitable on a having of that. Just wanted to drill down a little bit into some of your thoughts or how you're planning your operations for the year, maybe your expectations on perhaps where network difficulty may go post having. I know that's pretty hard to kind of forecast, But and then if you looked at your mining fleet, I guess, would you be unplugging any of your miners post having versus where you are now? Speaker 800:41:16Thanks a lot. Speaker 200:41:19I appreciate that, Joe. So let's cover our preparations with AbbVieen first. We think about it in really 3 distinct buckets: operations, software and energy. On the operations side, obviously, we're looking first at a minor refresh. We have the 2 previous announcements as we look to refresh and lower our average joules per terahash. Speaker 200:41:40The second part is that we've actually been relocating our machines based on their efficiency within our portfolio of facilities based on the power price and other environmental conditions to allow us to maximize profitability. So that's really point 1 on the operations side. On the software side, we've rolled out new modes to adapt to changing economic conditions. So that's both overclocking and underclocking and providing us the opportunity to rapidly move our average jewels per tera hash even lower based on changing economic conditions, which can extend the life and improve the profitability of our machines based on different cash price assumptions. Lastly, we talked a little bit about this earlier, but on the energy side, we've been working with all of our power providers to develop more advanced strategies that potentially increase intermittency in exchange for lower power prices. Speaker 200:42:37And so that's something that we've been working on given our experience working with some of the largest utilities in the United States to be able to introduce new types of programs and work collaboratively with our energy providers to be able to lower our average power costs. So that's really point 1. We definitely completed significant and rigorous scenario planning around many different hash price assumptions. So we feel we're very prepared for this upcoming habit. Now, 0.2 was definitely an interesting question related to our expectations around the habit. Speaker 200:43:13Bitcoin price will influence how much Hash rate stays online post that. If Bitcoin prices were to stay flat to where they are today, you would expect to see less Hash rate come offline than if the Bitcoin was at 50,000 So as a starters, I believe based on what we're seeing from the data, previous generation units that are on the network, let's call it 38 joules per teraash or later, which represents probably somewhere between 10% to 15% of the Hash rate comes offline as they're not profitable anymore. The next step is to understand the efficiency mix versus power prices to really provide what the next step of machines that are going to come off line around the having. What I mean by that is, how are older generation units and newer generation units allocated amongst the varying power prices on the Bitcoin network. So that's really the next step to understand how much more Hash rate may come offline. Speaker 200:44:09And then the last question here is how long do unprofitable miners stay online? The answer could be some of them shut off immediately, but the truth is many of them may stay online in hopes that network difficulty drops and minor margins improve. So for us, the way we're thinking about this upcoming halving, at minimum, we're expecting somewhere in the range of about a 10% to 15% difficulty drop. And we believe based on the shift that we made across our portfolio that we would have our existing miner fleet be profitable across our portfolio and that's something that we worked really hard to achieve. Speaker 800:44:44That's really helpful. Thank you, Adam. And then if one more question on the having, I know you're focused on larger hosting customers. How does how are you looking at having positive or negative effects on your hosting business and your strategy there? Thank you very much. Speaker 200:45:07Yes. So it's interesting, right? We're going to a having with high Hash prices and it's really yet to be known what the Hash price will be post having. But if Hash prices stay high and older generation units stay online, infrastructure in this industry is going to be extraordinarily constrained. This is something that we like to capitalize on the business. Speaker 200:45:30And we always say that our hosting business is really optionality that we have inside of our infrastructure portfolio to capitalize on moments in time with infrastructure trades at a premium. And so there are different outcomes that could potentially occur post halving, but we're in constant dialogue with potentially large hosting clients to host the newest generation of machines that could provide us either strategic opportunities, for instance, like our hosting agreement with Bitmain or different types of financial opportunities like the proceed sharing arrangements that we announced last year that provide us economic benefits similar to self mining. And we like those types of opportunities going forward. And so we're going to continue to be very opportunistic on the hosting side as we evaluate new and larger hosting clients that we could fit inside of our portfolio. Speaker 800:46:25Great. Thank you very much. Speaker 200:46:28Thanks, Joe. Operator00:46:31Our next question today is from the line of Kevin Dede of H. C. Wainwright. Kevin, your line is now open. Please go ahead. Speaker 900:46:40Thanks. Thanks for having me, Adam and Denise. Appreciate it. I want to piggyback off Joe's question. Speaker 500:46:47How Speaker 900:46:49your competitors malign the hosting business. And Speaker 400:46:52I think you tried to get Speaker 900:46:53to this, but can you withstand a hosting arrangement to that same sort of $0.04 hash cost level? And at what point or at what hash price would you have to make some drastic changes to the arrangements that you have with your existing customers? Speaker 200:47:16Yes, we've been really cognizant of this over the course of 2023. And so one of the main focuses we had over the course of 2023 was ensuring that the hosting clients that we took on were financially strong companies and were providing us with the newest generation machines. So as we moved into 2024, obviously, with having coming up next month, we wanted to be we wanted to ensure that we are in a position where we felt comfortable with not only our hosting counterparties, but also the mix that we are hosting for them. So where we stand today is we have a very strong hosting portfolio. We're evaluating opportunities in the hosting mix to potentially add to our base. Speaker 200:47:58And going forward, we're always going to use hosting as an opportunistic business. And if economics change dramatically like we've seen in the course of 2022, we would be able to replace hosting clients with newer generation equipment and new hosting clients to be able to refit those existing and open slots to be able to increase the profitability of that business once again. Speaker 900:48:25Could you sort of dig in a little bit, Adam, on the infrastructure costs associated with the HPC business, given your excitement of work with CoreWeave again? You mentioned and I totally agree that your infrastructure has great value, but the machine or the buildings you have at Denton aren't necessarily amenable to running HPC machines. So could you kind of give us an outline on how you would convert existing infrastructure or build out future infrastructure to address that? Speaker 200:49:03Yes, absolutely. I mean, we've been in contact with some of the largest providers of cards in the industry to be able to work on how to retrofit existing facilities. This is something that's not uncommon in the data center industry. You see brownfield infrastructure being converted to data centers. And if you take a look at our designs for our facilities, they're actually just pared back data centers that had been developed over the course of the data center industry many years ago. Speaker 200:49:33So we believe our infrastructure base and we completely agree there would be additional costs related to converting some of our existing facilities. But we believe with the counterparties that we're in discussions with that there would be opportunities for CapEx to be partially covered as part of the contractual arrangements with our clients, given the fact that there's such a high time preference right now to get infrastructure online more quickly. These companies have to prove that they can scale. They have to prove that they can bring machines online. And that's something that we can provide given our advantage of owning our own infrastructure today. Speaker 200:50:11So this is something that we've been in deep discussions with a number of different companies, and we're really excited about the opportunities that exist over the course of not only 2024, but beyond that. I touched on infrastructure as a 3 to 5 year game. But power right now at bare minimum is 2 plus years away for these data center companies. So this is a big opportunity for us to be able to execute on, to be able to bring down the time to market for a number of these companies. And there are a number of opportunities in the infrastructure side that can be brought in to help bring that existing infrastructure that we have really up to the needs of the clients that we've been speaking to. Speaker 900:50:51Just a real quick one for Denise. How are you thinking about implementing the new FASB on mark to market in your Bitcoin holdings? Speaker 300:51:01Yes. No, it's a great question, Kevin. And as you know, we actually stopped holding Bitcoin on our balance sheet in 2022. We actually will adopt as of Oneonetwenty 25 or 2024, I apologize. But it really doesn't have a significant impact on us. Speaker 300:51:19We did see a significant improvement in our adjusted EBITDA as we talked in our prepared remarks and that was really based on the fact that we saw the change year over year in the impairment. So while our competitors are actually seeing a significant improvement as they are taking into consideration the actual ability to write up their asset base, As you can see by our financial results, there really wasn't a significant difference between where we are today and the application of the new standard. Operator00:51:56Thank you. Our next question today is from the line of Jack Chan of Imperial Capital. Jack, your line is now open. Please go ahead. Speaker 500:52:04Hi. Do you guys see any opportunities for JVs or partnerships perhaps to accelerate the self mining growth plan or perhaps to also accelerate the growth of the high compute business? Speaker 200:52:20Yes. Thanks, Jack. I mean, right now, what we're really focused on is focused on business plan. Our business plan laid out our continued growth via funding that out of operating free cash flow. There may be opportunities going forward that we may evaluate on the HPC side related to joint ventures. Speaker 200:52:39But this is something that we believe the team we put together over the course of the past few years, you need to think about the team that we've developed in house, right? We've built a team that scales and develops the largest infrastructure base in North America for Bitcoin mining. And this team is coming from the traditional data center industry that has an opportunity to execute on a very unique opportunity that will exist over the course of the next 3 to 5 years. And so right now, we're really just focused on building this out organically, finding good partners and good clients that will work with us given our ability to execute more quickly. And so that's really our focus today on the HPC side. Speaker 200:53:19And on the Bitcoin mining side, this is something we're the largest Bitcoin miner in North America. I mean, something that you need to remember is we've been setting the pace. In 2021, 2022, 2023, we mined more Bitcoin than any miner in North America and it appears we're setting the pace again in 2024. Speaker 500:53:39Appreciate that. On the interest rate for your converts, how you're thinking about the cash pay versus the Toggle option? And will there be an announcement on such? Speaker 200:53:53This is something that we evaluate on a we can evaluate on a quarterly basis. And so that's something that we're still evaluating today for the first round at the end of Q2. So we'll be able to provide more updates to the market as we make decisions around whether we're choosing the 6 percent cash, 6% tick or the 10% cash. Speaker 700:54:17Yes. And the only other thing Speaker 300:54:18to add is, as we've actually detailed out our get service on Slide 17, just to make sure that it's clear, we do actually anticipate in the projections that Speaker 500:54:28we have included on Slide 17 that we Speaker 300:54:30are looking at the option of the 6% cash and 6% PIK. Speaker 500:54:34But as Adam suggested, it is going to be Speaker 300:54:36a quarterly decision going forward. Operator00:54:41Our next question today is from the line of Greg Lewis of BTIG. Greg, your line is now open. Please go ahead. Speaker 600:54:47Hey, thank you everybody and thanks for taking my question. Adam, I was hoping you could talk a little bit about how you're thinking about allocating capital. I mean clearly you've been upgrading the rig fleet 20 sub-twenty 7 jewels for Terash. But as you think about deploying those incremental dollars, how are you weighing the benefits of just using getting better efficiency out of your existing infrastructure and executing that long term infrastructure expansion, which you kind of laid out in the presentation? Speaker 200:55:24Yes. Right now, I mean, we're hyper focused on executing our business plan. Right now, executing on that business plan is definitely putting additional cash on balance sheet, giving where mining economics are today. And so we're having that opportunity prior to this upcoming having to put additional cash on balance sheet for us to feel more comfortable around playing through different types of cash price scenarios. I mentioned earlier priority 2 is paying down debt, but the path to deleveraging that is embedded in our capital structure today is an opportunity for us to be able to fully delever based on strong execution of our company. Speaker 200:56:03And so what that really looks like is we have $600,000,000 in debt, about just over $600,000,000 Speaker 100:56:09We have Speaker 200:56:09a $260,000,000 convert. That is a mandatory conversion feature. And so that leaves about $340,000,000 in regular way debt. We have $670,000,000 upon full exercise of that Tranche 1 warrant. And so right now, all of those, the tranche 1 warrant, the conversion the mandatory conversion of the convertible note, note, those are all things that are within reach if we just start trading somewhat closer to the mean of our peer group in our industry. Speaker 200:56:39So we believe upon strong execution of our business plan, continuing to outperform, we'll have the opportunity to pay down the debt through that pathway and that optionality that's embedded in our capital structure. And so really that's our focus right now, execute, put cash on balance sheet and work towards a pathway to deleveraging and moving to a positive net cash position. Speaker 600:57:05Super helpful. Thanks, Adam. Speaker 200:57:09Thanks, Rick. Operator00:57:11Our next question today is from the line of Darren Aftahi of ROTH MTM. Darren, please go ahead. Speaker 1000:57:19Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my questions. I listened to the live call, so excuse my Speaker 600:57:25if any Speaker 1000:57:25of this has already been asked. But Adam, I'm curious, two things on your agreement with Coreweave and then the broader strategy there. So first, if you expanded megawatts into HPC, Speaker 200:57:42does Corweave have a rover Speaker 1000:57:44on that activity or is it up for grabs? Speaker 200:57:50Any future developments that we make, we mentioned the 300 megawatts of opportunity within our existing infrastructure base, that's up for grabs. From the perspective of we have a great relationship with Core. We've been in discussions with a number of other counterparties. And for us, it comes down to a decision of working with given the contracts are longer dated or 7 years, that's an eternity for most Bitcoin mining companies. But the data center industry, that is really the standard. Speaker 200:58:20So we're going to be working with these clients over a number of years. We want to diversify our customer base over time. And so we're evaluating a number of different opportunities. And you have to remember, right now, there's a high time preference in this industry to get capacity online more quickly. And so opportunities that allow for our clients to be able to bring capacity online more quickly are the types of contracts that we'd be looking to execute on. Speaker 1000:58:45And then when you look at return on invested capital and you talked about retrofitting some of these buildings, like how does that calculus work in looking at an HPC or AI or ML client with a longer term time horizon relative to going down the BTC path? Thanks. Speaker 200:59:07Yes. I mean, the way we're thinking about it right now is there's refresh cycles on machines as well on Bitcoin mining machines. And so there's always additional dollars that need to be spent over the course of time even to maintain a profitable mining business in any given site. So we're definitely evaluating different types of contracts with potential clients that allow for them to pay for some or majority of that CapEx. And so it provides us an opportunity to get strong return on the invested capital that we will be making. Speaker 200:59:39And so that's really something that we've been evaluating. It was obviously something that we evaluated on the first deal that we signed with Correv. We believe we'll have a return on that invested capital inside of a year. Operator00:59:55Our next question today is from the line of Josh Siegal of Cantor Fitzgerald. Josh, your line is now open. Speaker 101:00:02Hi, guys. Thanks for taking my question today. Look, first, I'd love to get a little more color on how you're thinking about energy, especially as you expand into Texas. How are you thinking about navigating the Texas energy Speaker 201:00:14market? Thanks, Josh. I mean, we've been in Texas for a number of years, and we have 2 sites in Texas. So we have our Denton facility and our Pecos location. So the way we're thinking about power in the state of Texas, over the course of the past few years, you've seen long term fixed price PPAs increase over the course of time. Speaker 201:00:33Even renewable PPAs have increased over the course of the past few years. And so the opportunities to go longer dated today aren't as opportunistic for us as looking at shorter dated PPAs. Those also provide greater flexibility around collateral and margin. And so we've been looking at executing these shorter dated fixed price PPAs that provide us the coverage to any potential downside risk as power prices could move in either direction. But it also provides us the opportunity to be able to be much more planned for around the types of machines that we put at those sites, right? Speaker 201:01:11Because the power prices are constantly changing over the course of time that influences the efficiency of the machines that you're putting there. And so we're very well versed in real in allocating machines based on-site level profitability, based on changing economic conditions. And one of the things that we're really proud of, we've built our own energy management software in house. This qualifies us for even the highest programs inside of Texas, which are some of the most stringent requirements across the United States. And we've been able to qualify for all of those. Speaker 201:01:44And so that's something that we believe is unique to us. All of that capability is in house. We're not relying on 3rd party software providers for that. So not only do we feel we have a good strategy on the power hedging side, but also our internal capabilities are exceptional in this industry. Speaker 101:02:03Great. Appreciate it. That's very helpful color. Switching gears a little bit to the HPC side of things. I was wondering if you guys have considered cloud compute? Speaker 101:02:12And if so, what made you stick with the direction on cloud based solutions? Speaker 201:02:19Yes. You have to think about what we're really good at, right? We're really great at building infrastructure at scale rapidly and better than anyone else. That's something that we've proven over the course of the past few years in the Bitcoin mining side, building infrastructure that's better than the rest of the industry and faster than the rest of the industry. So that's what we're really good at. Speaker 201:02:38Our design and development team on the infrastructure side comes out of the traditional data center industry. And so we need we're thinking about our core competencies here. Our core competencies are designing, developing and operating digital infrastructure at scale with great efficiency. And that's something that we really pride ourselves on that we've been able to execute on better than anyone else in Bitcoin Mining. We're expecting similar results on the digital infrastructure side as well. Operator01:03:08Our next question today is from the line of Lucas Pipes of B. Riley. Lucas, your line is open. Please go ahead. Speaker 601:03:15Thank you very much taking my follow-up questions. First, Adam, sorry if I missed it, but what's the CapEx budget for the miners in 2024? Speaker 201:03:27Yes, that's something that we haven't announced yet. That's something that we're currently working through and we're going to be opportunistic over the course of 2024 related to how miners are priced post adding. What I can say right now is the XPs and the S21s that we've ordered so far for this year that have been announced, we've made all the payments required in 2024 on both of those deals. So we're very comfortable from where we're at today. The only planned CapEx on the infrastructure side is the $20,000,000 related to the Denton expansion and we'll continue to evaluate future miner purchases as we go through the Havin. Operator01:04:09Thank you. This will conclude the question and answer session for today. So I would like to hand back to Steve Gillan for any closing remarks. Speaker 101:04:18Thank you very much, Harry, and thank you all for your attention and your interest in Core Scientific. An archived version of this call, all SEC filings and relevant company and industry news can be found on our website, corescientific.com. 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There are 11 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Hello, and welcome to the Core Scientific Incorporated Fiscal 4th Quarter and Full Year 2023 Earnings Conference Call. My name is Harry, and I'll be coordinating your call today. I will now hand you over to Stephen Gitlin, Senior Vice President, Investor Relations and Marketing at Core Scientific to begin. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:21Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to Core Scientific's fiscal year 2023 earnings conference call. This is Stephen Gitlin, Senior Vice President of Investor Relations for Core Scientific. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. We will conduct a question and answer session after management's remarks. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded for replay purposes. Speaker 100:00:43Before we begin, please note that on this call, certain information presented contains forward looking statements within the meaning of the Safe Harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Forward looking statements include, without limitation, any statements other than historical or current facts that predict or indicate future events or trends, forecast, performance or achievements and may contain words such as believe, anticipate, expect, estimate, intend, project, plan or words or phrases with similar meaning. Forward looking statements are based on current expectations, forecasts and assumptions that involve risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially. For further information on these risks and uncertainties, we encourage you to review the risk factors discussed in the company's annual report on Form 10 ks filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission and the special note regarding forward looking statements contained in the company's current report on Form 8 ks filed today and the earnings release and slide presentation contained therein. Today's presentation is available on our website at corescientific.com in the Events and Presentations section. Speaker 100:01:50The content of this conference call contains time sensitive information that is accurate only as of today, March 12, 2024. The company undertakes no obligation to make any revision to any forward looking statements contained in our remarks today or to update them to reflect the events or circumstances occurring after today. Joining me today from Core Scientific are CEO, Mr. Adam Sullivan Chief Financial Officer, Mrs. Denise Sterling. Speaker 100:02:16We will now begin with remarks from Adam Sullivan. Adam? Speaker 200:02:19Thank you, Steve, and good afternoon. I'd like to begin by highlighting a few key points that help frame Core Scientific's leading position in our industry. As illustrated on Slide 3, Core Scientific is one of the largest Bitcoin miners in North America, earning more Bitcoin than any other listed company in 2021, 2022 2023. Moving now to Slide 4. We generated $502,000,000 in revenue in 2023, more than any other listed miner in North America. Speaker 200:02:52We own our 7 24 megawatts of infrastructure that translates into 23.2 exahash as of December 31 and 25.2xahash as of February 29. We are diversifying our hosting customer base beyond Bitcoin Mining into high performance computing with our recently announced contract to host Core Wave. And we are well positioned for the having continuously improving our fleet efficiency with a pathway to delever our balance sheet, a plan to add more than 20x.5 of self mining cash rate over the coming years and I believe we have the best team in our industry. This being my first earnings conference call since taking the role of CEO, I'd like to express my gratitude to our Board members and our leadership team for their support. I'd also like to acknowledge the hard work and dedication of every member of the Core Scientific team. Speaker 200:03:47You stayed focused during the restructuring process, you maintained our market leadership position and you bring our values to life every single day. The restructuring lasted for the entirety of 2023. And it was not a key period for the company. But we persevered, learned from the experience and have built what I believe to be the best company in our industry. One of the main reasons I joined Core Scientific in 2023 was the quality of the team and its ability to scale its own infrastructure rapidly and efficiently. Speaker 200:04:21It was the 1st company to energize 100, 250, and 500 Megawatts for Bitcoin mining in North America at a time when very few came anywhere close to that scale and even fewer met their growth targets. And by owning our own infrastructure, we can deliver financial, operational and strategic advantages that I will address later. It's a privilege for me to leave this company and I'm incredibly grateful and excited about this opportunity. Building on strong momentum from 2023, Core Scientific has entered an exciting new chapter in our history. On today's call, I will speak to 3 key elements of this new chapter: the strength of our fundamental business, our preparations for the Avon and the opportunities ahead of us. Speaker 200:05:05Denise Sterling will then share some key financial and operational metrics before I return to our closing comments and then we'll take your questions. Now let's talk about the strength of our business highlighted on our earnings presentation. A total of 19,274 Bitcoin were mined in our data centers, 13,762 by self mining for our account more than any other public listed miner in North America. We operated the largest infrastructure for Bitcoin mining in North America with 7.24 energized megawatts. We ended 2023 with 16.9 exahash of self mining hash rate and 6.3 exahash of hosting hash rate for a total of 23.2 exahash. Speaker 200:05:53We demonstrated superior productivity earning higher than average Bitcoin per Energize Xa has. We are a Bitcoin miner and we develop and operate data centers. Less known is that we create technology solutions that support large fleets of computers. But as emphasized on Slide 5, what we really do 20 fourseven, 365 is transform energy into high value compute with superior efficiency at scale. We do this by designing, building and operating high power digital infrastructure in which hundreds of thousands of computers operate with high uptime and high productivity. Speaker 200:06:32The high value compute we focus on today is Bitcoin mining and our position in this market is strong. Owning our 7 24 megawatts of infrastructure shown in more detail on Slide 6 results in a lower cost to mine than if we relied on others to host our miners because we don't have to pay anyone a margin above their hosting costs. We have an organic growth plan for completing another 372 contracted megawatts of partially built infrastructure at our 2 Texas sites and an incremental cost per megawatt of only about $200,000 or less than half of the cost of greenfield infrastructure. We plan to fund that growth from operating cash flow, a lesson we learned from our experience prior to our restructuring. This new infrastructure represents more than 20x.5 of new Hash rate planned for the coming years. Speaker 200:07:25In addition to our strong operational results in 2023, we also delivered strong financial results, starting with revenue of $502,000,000 While we experienced a net loss for the year of $247,000,000 it was mostly driven by $190,000,000 in reorganization items associated with our restructuring, which are now mostly behind us. In 2023, we generated strong adjusted EBITDA of $170,000,000 up from negative $10,700,000 in the prior year. We generate cash flow by earning and selling Bitcoin efficiently. Beyond our financial performance in 2023, which Denise will review in more detail, We also took the opportunity to evaluate our business carefully during our restructuring and made a number of changes that have strengthened our organization highlighted on Slide 7. We emerged with a stronger balance sheet and a pathway to deliver further based on convertible debt conversion and warrant exercises. Speaker 200:08:28We instilled rigor and discipline in capital allocation, crafting an organic growth plan funded out of operating cash flow. We reduced our spending and implemented a hedging strategy on power to manage our downside risk. We rationalized our hosting business, reducing the number of customers to a smaller set of financially strong companies and implementing new contracts designed to create more value for our shareholders through proceed sharing. We also paid off our debt financing utilizing free cash flow well in reorganization and we completed a successful oversubscribed equity rights offering prior to our emergence. Lastly, we strengthened our self mining business in a number of important ways that I will detail shortly. Speaker 200:09:14Across these and other areas, we made tremendous progress over the past year and now having re listed on NASDAQ are excited at the opportunity to remain at the forefront of Bitcoin mining in North America. Now let's discuss the upcoming happen. In our business, scale is important, but it's insufficient. We must deploy our resources and operate with superior efficiency to address the inherent volatility of our industry and the upcoming avenue in particular. Publicly reported data shows that our Hash rate utilization based on the number of bitcoins we earned per average Energize ex I Hash has exceeded the average for our peer group in the last 12 months. Speaker 200:09:54It is shown on Slide 8. It is much easier to operate efficiently with a small operation and much more difficult at scale. We continue to deliver superior efficiency at scale. Efficiency is critical to any business. To prepare our business better for the volatility we expect around the having, we've accomplished the following shown on Slide 9. Speaker 200:10:17We continue to deploy new Bitcoin miners to expand our hash rate and replace older less efficient machines. By doing so, we improved fleet energy efficiency to 27.94joules per terahash by December 31, 2023 and at the end of February 2024 to 26.79 joules per terahash. We've accelerated delivery and deployment of our 2.5xihash of new S-twenty 1s through the first half of the year, which will improve our fleet efficiency even further. Levering our strong software development capabilities, we deployed our own proprietary firmware, TAR Miners, to generate greater profitability and create greater flexibility. We are able to optimize the machine performance based on power price changes as well as weather and facility level variables such as temperature, wind and pressure. Speaker 200:11:10This results in greater profitability and varying levels of economics creating greater profitability at both lower and higher cash prices. We have optimized our fleet by reallocating miners to different locations based on their energy efficiency, aligning them with individual data center, environmental conditions and power rigs. We implemented a power hedging strategy for the first time to minimize the impact of energy price volatility on our financial performance and we've conducted rigorous scenario planning to determine what responses deliver the best result based on a variety of having driven cash price assumptions. Our focus on efficiency has delivered positive financial results. In 2023, we reduced cash operating expenses by 27% year over year. Speaker 200:11:59We will continue to manage expenses carefully, work to improve efficiency and continue preparing for the expected cash price volatility around the Havin. The strength of our business combined with our focus on efficiency and preparation for the halving position us very well to remain a leader in the Bitcoin mining industry. The fact that we own our own infrastructure and possess unique capabilities and talent position us very well for emerging opportunities in other areas of high value compute. Owning our infrastructure provides financial, operational and strategic advantages. 1st, owning our infrastructure lowers our cost to mine, producing self mining gross profit of 25% in 2023. Speaker 200:12:43It also gives us the flexibility to quickly and easily refresh our miners to generate higher cash rates in the same operating power, increasing our productivity and profit. 2nd, because it's our infrastructure, we can develop and deploy the new technology solutions that I mentioned earlier that help us boost productivity and operating efficiency. This includes firmware, power management software and fleet management software. These solutions enable us to participate in programs offered by the utilities in different locations that can generate value for us. There is so much more we can do with our deep technical capabilities that would be difficult or impossible to do if we did not own our own infrastructure. Speaker 200:13:29And third, we believe that the value of our own infrastructure will only increase over time as the demand for available high power firm generation sites grows with the rapid growth of HPC and AI cloud market, we believe that more opportunities will emerge to host clients such as Corweave. To that point, our new multiyear hosting contract with Corweave, an industry leader in GPU accelerated workloads is valued at more than $100,000,000 over the term of the contract. This new contract diversifies our hosting customer portfolio and enhances our potential to increase shareholder value by expanding our hosting business to customers engaged in important growing segments of the compute market. As a reminder, we hosted GPUs in our data centers for several years and even built a Tier 3 data center within one of our sites. Also, the majority of our data center operations team and its leaders come from the data center industry, providing us with a deep understanding of the requirements and operating mechanics of infrastructure to service high performance computing. Speaker 200:14:37In fact, our Head of Data Center Operations built and ran the very data center we have leased to host Corweave when he worked for HP. Let me make it clear. We are fully focused on Bitcoin mining at scale. At the same time, we are uniquely positioned to address these emerging high value compute hosting opportunities as they evolve representing strategic optionality for us and for you our shareholders. With that as an overview of the state of the business, I'd like to invite Denise Erling to provide some context to key financial and operating results in 2023. Speaker 200:15:12Denise? Speaker 300:15:13Thank you, Adam. It's good to be here with you today. I'll begin by highlighting key income statement items. On a year over year basis, 2023 revenue of $502,400,000 declined by $138,000,000 or 22 percent from $640,300,000 in 2022. Dollars 130,000,000 of that decline was due to reducing the number of customers in our hosting business to improve its margin profile and sustainability and exiting the equipment sales business in 2023, which had contributed meaningfully to revenue in 2022. Speaker 300:15:51Cost of revenue decreased by $253,000,000 down 40% to $378,900,000 from $631,900,000 for the fiscal year 2022. The decrease in cost of revenue was primarily attributable to $128,100,000 of decreased depreciation driven by a fiscal 2022 non cash impairment adjustment to the depreciable base for our deployed self mining units, $67,100,000 of lower equipment sales costs due to our exit from the equipment sales business in 2022, $41,800,000 of lower power cost and lower stock based compensation of $20,700,000 as prior year included accelerated vesting of awards as well as a decrease in equity awards granted during fiscal year 2023. As a result of our focus on efficiency, as Adam indicated, we reduced our cash operating expenses by 27%. This improvement was mainly the result of a significant reduction of professional fees and a decrease in headcount and related personnel costs as we streamlined our organizational design to increase our operating efficiency. Our net loss decreased by $1,900,000,000 or 89 percent from $2,100,000,000 in 2022 to approximately $246,500,000 in 2023. Speaker 300:17:16This decrease was driven mainly by a decline in non cash impairments of $1,900,000,000 an improvement in gross margin of $115,100,000 lower operating expenses of $144,900,000 partially offset by bankruptcy related reorganization expenses of $191,100,000 in 2023. 2023 adjusted EBITDA of $170,000,000 increased by $180,700,000 from a negative $10,700,000 in 2022. As a percentage of revenue, 2023 adjusted EBITDA grew to 34% of revenue versus a negative 1.7% in 2022. Because power is our single largest component of our cost of revenue, I'd like to provide some additional background. We have power contracts with grid operators for each of our data centers. Speaker 300:18:13These contracts vary in price and terms. Fleetway power cost averaged $0.444 in 2023. We project power cost in 2024 of between $0.045 and $0.047 We currently operate in both regulated and unregulated markets. In regulated markets, we are limited in our ability to manage the risk of power prices. In Texas, we implemented a hedging strategy for the first time on 50 megawatts of power to our Pecos data center. Speaker 300:18:45While stable winter power prices did not result in significant savings from this strategy in 2023, we protected ourselves against downside risk and we established the processes necessary to engage in hedging at a larger scale and at other locations. Today, we operate 2 segments, self mining and hosting. As shown on Slide 12, in 2023, our self mining to hosting mix was 76% to 24%. We plan to expand our self mining fleet as we add infrastructure capacity as well as refresh our less efficient miners to increase efficiency and productivity. As we expand our self mining fleet, we expect the mix to change over time. Speaker 300:19:29Our 2023 self mining and hosting gross margins were 25% 22% respectively as compared to 1% 2% in 2022. The significant improvement in year over year self mining gross margin was due to decreases in depreciation and stock based compensation and an increase in our self mining hash rate. The significant improvement in our hosting gross margin was due to the rationalization of our hosting business that Adam addressed earlier. A critical driver to our operating efficiency and the preparation for the having is the composition of our self mining fleet. As Adam indicated, our fleet wide average energy efficiency was 26.79 Jules for Terahash as of February 29, 2024, and we expect continued improvement as we deploy new S-twenty one minuteers this year. Speaker 300:20:23As of the year end 2023, we operated approximately 158,000 minuteers in our self mining fleet. The model mix shown on Slide 13 is 13% S-nineteen, 71% S19 Pro and S19 J Pros and 16% S19J XP. Now I'd like to discuss the strength of our balance sheet and cash commitments. As illustrated on Slide 14, we reduced our debt by approximately $400,000,000 at Emergent to $608,000,000 as compared to just over $1,000,000,000 at the end of 2023. $260,000,000 of our debt at emergence consisted of secured convertible notes and the remaining $348,000,000 included several non convertible instruments. Speaker 300:21:11We have summarized the terms of these debt instruments on Slide 15, including facility size, interest rate, maturity and conversion as applicable. Slide 16 illustrates our pathway to reducing and potentially eliminating our debt. 1st, a stock price of $5.83 will put the convertible notes in the money and a price of $7.79 will trigger their mandatory conversion. Full conversion of these notes will result in an issuance of an additional 45,000,000 shares and a $260,000,000 reduction in debt to $348,000,000 assuming no other changes. Next, the exercise price of the tranche 1 warrant is $6.81 Because these are cash warrants, their full exercise would result in approximately $670,000,000 in cash to Core Scientific, half of which we are required to use to pay down our debt. Speaker 300:22:10As our net debt following the equitization of our secured convertible notes amounts to $348,000,000 the receipt of $670,000,000 would be more than sufficient to clear the balance sheet assuming no other changes. The full exercise of Tranche 1's warrants would also result in the issuance of an additional 98,000,000 shares. As summarized on Slide 16, the pathway to completely delevering our balance sheet based on the performance of our company and company stock is within our reach. We have structured our 2024 plan to fund our operations and growth out of operating cash flow, including debt service, which is summarized on Slide 17. We expect to pay a total of $71,000,000 $31,000,000 in principal and $40,000,000 in interest and debt amortization in 2024. Speaker 300:23:01The majority of our existing debt matures in 20282029. Please refer to Slide 15 for the terms associated with our debt instruments. Adam previously discussed our infrastructure expansion plans over the coming years. In 2024, we plan to spend approximately $20,000,000 to complete 72 megawatts of infrastructure in Texas, which we will fund out of operating cash flow. Operating cash flow will also fund the cost of new miners to be deployed and energized from that 72 megawatts. Speaker 300:23:33Moving now from CapEx, let's review our mining economics summarized on Slide 18. Our total cash cost to self mine in 2023 was $14,982 which represents our direct cash expenses of power of $12,528 and facilities operations cost of $2,454 allocated based on the percentage of our fleet dedicated to self mining divided by total Bitcoin self mined in 2023, that's 13,762. Another way to look at this is by calculating the cash based cash cost, which represents the cash expenses of power and facilities operations costs divided by our self mining fleet hash rate in Terahash. Our cash based cash cost in 2023 was $0.398 per terahash. Again, we expect our operating cash flow to be sufficient to support operating expenses, debt service and CapEx associated with organic growth plan in 2024. Speaker 300:24:40We are modeling a statutory effective tax rate of approximately 23% for 2024. We also have more than $300,000,000 in net operating loss carry forwards, which will reduce future cash taxes. Now I'll turn the call back to Adam to discuss our expectations for 2024. Speaker 200:24:58Thanks, Denise. As previously indicated in the business plan filed with the court, we expect the following results in 2024. We plan to complete 72 megawatts of partially built infrastructure at our Denton, Texas data center for a total of 796 megawatts by the end of 2024 and self mining hash rate of 21.8xahash. To summarize, CoreSite Q4 makes a leader in Bitcoin Mining with a strong business, significant progress preparing for the having and with potentially significant opportunities in other forms of high value compute hosting. We took the opportunity during our restructuring to improve our company and our team is engaged, aligned and laser focused on operating effectively and achieving our growth plans. Speaker 200:25:46We are excited about how well Core Scientific is performing and positioned and we look forward to updating you on our progress against our goals over the course of this year. I'm confident in the ability of our outstanding team to achieve superior results that earn your trust. Thank you for your time today. And now we will take your questions. Operator00:26:09We will now begin the question and answer session of today's call. Our first question today is from the line of Joe Flynn of Compass Point. Joe, your line is now open. Speaker 400:26:47Hi, guys. Looking to the Q1 with the stronger Bitcoin prices and Hash price and given that you guys have the benefit of having scale already and high hash rate utilization, Operator00:26:59you guys should be able Speaker 400:26:59to build a pretty strong cash position here. So my question is on just near term plans going forward with that cash, what's the balance between investing in growth, holding cash for rainy day into the having and also as it relates to your decision to pay cash interest or PIK interest? Speaker 200:27:18Yes. Thanks, Joe. Priority number 1 for us is executing on the business plan. So we've laid out the next the growth for the next 72 megawatts to add on to our base of 7 24 megawatts. And we believe that by executing on that business plan, it will provide a pathway to deleveraging for us. Speaker 200:27:35Priority 2 is paying down debt. That's definitely something that we've been eyeing as we've been looking forward over the course of 2024. But really, our top priority right now, execute on the business plan, continue operating with the best efficiency across the market. And we believe that will provide a pathway for us to delever our balance sheet over the course of 2024. Speaker 400:28:02Great. And then kind of question on the power prices. It looks like you guys saw a benefit there with 0 point $4 per kilowatt hour based probably on lower natural gas prices. But I guess one more color on maybe your existing power agreements whether those are pretty set in stone or are there further opportunities to get fixed price PPAs? And then also if you could just expand on your hedging strategy, if you can hedge additional megawatts, that would be helpful. Speaker 200:28:31Yes, of course. I mean, let's take a look at the power market more broadly first. I mean power right now in the United States is a very competitive game. Bitcoin miners are competing against well funded technology companies that are less sensitive to pricing. We view that as a big opportunity for us as a business, which we can talk about later. Speaker 200:28:49But going back to Bitcoin Mining, our power prices over the course of 2023 were $0.04 We have a split between regulated and unregulated markets inside of our portfolio. We're operating in 5 different states. The unregulated market is Texas. And so a lot of our power prices are fixed. Some of them have components that can fluctuate with different pricing like natural gas. Speaker 200:29:16And so we definitely have an eye towards further hedging programs like the one that we did at our Pecos location. But right now, what we're really focused on is not necessarily only achieving lower cost per Bitcoin, but it's also really focusing on areas where we can have high utilization. It's something that we really pride ourselves on and believe provides a better return on capital for the investments that we've made, not only in our infrastructure, but also our miners. So the power programs that we're participating in across regulated markets right now, it's some intermittency in exchange for lower power prices. And in Texas, in particular, looking at more short dated fixed price PPAs that give us the opportunity to capitalize on different market environments. Speaker 200:30:03That's what we're seeing across the state of Texas. Power prices are changing rapidly. And that's something that we want to be able to have the flexibility to execute on those types of opportunities. And so you saw the first one that we executed on over the course of the winter in Texas. Operator00:30:25Thank you. Our next question today comes from the line of John Todaro of Needham and Company. John, your line is now open. Speaker 100:30:32Great. Thanks for taking my question, guys. A little bit newer to the story, but would love to get a little bit more color on the coreweave contract. Any additional details you can drill down into there, such as kind of the operating margin profile we should be thinking about? And then as you do think longer term, is this a business you would like to get more into? Speaker 100:30:56And then just kind of expected CapEx if you were to get into the business on maybe a larger scale, kind of what is the cost per megawatt you would be thinking about? Speaker 200:31:10Yes. Let me address the first part of the question first. We're excited about bringing Corie back to the client. They were a client from 2019 to 2022 and Corie has become a major brand in this space, but they knew our capabilities and know that we're well positioned to support them. This first deal that we signed with the Austin location, our operations team has high familiarity with that site. Speaker 200:31:35Many of the team members that we have actually built and operated that site when they worked for HP. So how we're thinking about this business right now, it's a natural hedge against the Bitcoin mining business. This is priced how you'd see traditional data center deals priced, charging a fixed per kilowatt fee that's charged regardless of whether that capacity is utilized and a pass around things like power and utilities. We believe this deal is going to be accretive to 2024 and it's going to provide a strong return on the CapEx that we spent on the upgrades and the expansion of the electrical infrastructure at that site. The interesting part for us is how we're thinking about it going forward and really what we're seeing in this market. Speaker 200:32:21There's low availability of high megawatt power or high megawatt sites with firm generation power. And right now, infrastructure is a 3 to 5 year game. And on the power side, it's at least 2 years out if you go to any site today. We have the unique advantage where we can convert facilities that we have with a much lower timeframe. So we're looking at executing contracts with companies that have a preference for getting capacity on sooner rather than later. Speaker 200:32:53And right now, we're at a very interesting intersection between Bitcoin Mining and HPC, where we can be extraordinarily competitive on future site development, whether that's the 3 72 megawatts to complete on the Bitcoin mining side or whether it's on any of the existing infrastructure that we have, which is 300 megawatts within our existing footprint, that has the potential to convert to HPC like locations given their proximity to major metropolitan areas and also access to low latency to those metropolitan areas. So for us, we're looking forward to this business really from 2 perspectives. The first is continue to execute on the Bitcoin mining side with the partially developed infrastructure that we have. And then part 2 is looking at improving our business by improving the margins of our Bitcoin mining business by shifting potentially some of our existing sites to this new HPC business where we can have long term fixed price contracts that give us the opportunity to provide greater stability and free cash flow. Speaker 500:33:57Great. And sorry if I missed it, when Speaker 100:34:02does the revenue from the contract start kicking in? Speaker 200:34:08We expect the revenue from the contract for this to start showing up on our income statement at some point over the next few months. So that's something they'll look forward to over the course of the next few earnings calls. Speaker 100:34:23Got it. Thank you. Operator00:34:29Our next question today is from the line of Lucas Pipes of B. Riley. Lucas, your line is now open. Please go ahead. Speaker 600:34:35Thank you very much, operator. Good afternoon, everyone. Thanks for the update. Good to hear your voice. Adam, my first question is on the fleet upgrade. Speaker 600:34:46Can you remind us kind of the timing of the exahas additions in general kind of the size of the opportunity? And then I think you mentioned the CapEx budget earlier on the call, but if could just refresh that as well, I would appreciate it. Thank you. Speaker 200:35:05Sure. Good to hear from you, Lucas. So let's talk about the minor refresh more broadly first and we'll dig in. So on a minor refresh basis, what you see in our existing portfolio is a consistent roll into newer generation machines. That's why we have machines our average machine fleet today is about 26.79joules per teraash, but we're looking at consistent roll into newer generation machines and to do it on a more consistent basis. Speaker 200:35:32That's how we're thinking about this business going forward is constantly having the ability to refresh into lower CapEx cycles because if you refresh all of your machines at once, you're essentially creating maturity walls for that next CapEx cycle where you have to refresh your entire fleet. So you're seeing the first few deals that we've announced, the XP deal that was part of our emergence and then the S-twenty one deal that was also announced in January. The S-twenty one deal that was an opportunity where we actually were able to accelerate the delivery based on accelerating payments for that contract. And so we're actually pulling forward some of those deliveries to earlier part in Q2 of this year. So as we look forward to the rest of this year, we're going to look for more consistent machine purchases and we're going to be updating the market as we go forward. Speaker 200:36:21But we'd be looking to pay for those out of operating free cash flow as we've laid out in our business plan. On the infrastructure side, we're putting up 72 megawatts of infrastructure at Denton. That's going to cost us $20,000,000 to complete that site or to complete those next 72 megawatts. And so that would be paid for over the course of 2024. Speaker 600:36:45Got it. Thank you for that. And then on Slide 18, I have a question how to think about the operational cost. You show $0.65 per Para Hash and I assume that this is mostly a fixed cost. So as you kind of refresh net miners and that exahash, this doesn't really increase linearly, but would appreciate your thoughts on how to think about that number going forward in a rising exahash environment. Speaker 600:37:19Thank you. Speaker 200:37:21Yes, of course. So when you look at that on Page 18, referencing the $0.65 in Hash cost, Part of that is definitely a fixed cost of the operations team. But then there are also parts that are variable as well related to facility level expenses that are outside of the cost of power. So these are direct costs that are incurred and some of it would scale as we continue to scale our infrastructure fleet. But in terms of the amount of operating costs, this is something that we would expect to achieve operating leverage on going forward as we continue to increase the size of our infrastructure. Speaker 100:38:03All right. Speaker 600:38:04I appreciate it. I'll turn it over for now and best of luck. Thank you. Speaker 200:38:08Thanks Lucas. Operator00:38:12Our next question today is from the line of Rosemarie Sison of Odeon Capital Group. Rosemarie, your line is now open. Speaker 700:38:19Yes. Thank you. And thank you for taking the questions. I was curious about whether you would comment on the plan that was part of your bankruptcy filing, whether you believe that you are those numbers still kind of in line with your expectations at least for the current year? Speaker 200:38:37Yes. So the guidance that we gave at the end of the call was that our guidance is in line with our business plan. So developing the next 72 megawatts of infrastructure and the 21.8 exahash expected in our fleet by year end of 2024. So from the perspective of the business plan, we're really focused on that from a CapEx perspective and focused on it from a growth perspective. So those are really the 2 key areas that we believe will be consistent along with our business plan that was filed. Speaker 700:39:13Okay. Thank you for that. And do you expect that there could be any change in your power cost going forward? I mean, you obviously mentioned the cost that you expect coming up. Is that kind of set in stone? Speaker 700:39:27Or could there be variability to that power cost? Speaker 200:39:32We gave guidance of $0.045 to $0.047 There is potential to be a bit of a range on power prices, but this is something where we have high confidence in our ability to execute that range that we provided for this year. You look back previous years, there are events that can cause changes in natural gas pricing that can have potential effects not only in current years, but future years. But right now, we have high confidence in our ability to execute on the existing guidance that we provide related to power prices. Speaker 700:40:07All right, great. Thank you very much. Speaker 200:40:10Thanks Rosemarie. Operator00:40:14Our next question today is from the line of Joseph Baffei of Canaccord Genuity. Joseph, your line is now open. Speaker 800:40:30Coming having. I know you mentioned in your prepared remarks, your operating cost per Bitcoin. Clearly, at these spot prices, you're going to remain profitable on a having of that. Just wanted to drill down a little bit into some of your thoughts or how you're planning your operations for the year, maybe your expectations on perhaps where network difficulty may go post having. I know that's pretty hard to kind of forecast, But and then if you looked at your mining fleet, I guess, would you be unplugging any of your miners post having versus where you are now? Speaker 800:41:16Thanks a lot. Speaker 200:41:19I appreciate that, Joe. So let's cover our preparations with AbbVieen first. We think about it in really 3 distinct buckets: operations, software and energy. On the operations side, obviously, we're looking first at a minor refresh. We have the 2 previous announcements as we look to refresh and lower our average joules per terahash. Speaker 200:41:40The second part is that we've actually been relocating our machines based on their efficiency within our portfolio of facilities based on the power price and other environmental conditions to allow us to maximize profitability. So that's really point 1 on the operations side. On the software side, we've rolled out new modes to adapt to changing economic conditions. So that's both overclocking and underclocking and providing us the opportunity to rapidly move our average jewels per tera hash even lower based on changing economic conditions, which can extend the life and improve the profitability of our machines based on different cash price assumptions. Lastly, we talked a little bit about this earlier, but on the energy side, we've been working with all of our power providers to develop more advanced strategies that potentially increase intermittency in exchange for lower power prices. Speaker 200:42:37And so that's something that we've been working on given our experience working with some of the largest utilities in the United States to be able to introduce new types of programs and work collaboratively with our energy providers to be able to lower our average power costs. So that's really point 1. We definitely completed significant and rigorous scenario planning around many different hash price assumptions. So we feel we're very prepared for this upcoming habit. Now, 0.2 was definitely an interesting question related to our expectations around the habit. Speaker 200:43:13Bitcoin price will influence how much Hash rate stays online post that. If Bitcoin prices were to stay flat to where they are today, you would expect to see less Hash rate come offline than if the Bitcoin was at 50,000 So as a starters, I believe based on what we're seeing from the data, previous generation units that are on the network, let's call it 38 joules per teraash or later, which represents probably somewhere between 10% to 15% of the Hash rate comes offline as they're not profitable anymore. The next step is to understand the efficiency mix versus power prices to really provide what the next step of machines that are going to come off line around the having. What I mean by that is, how are older generation units and newer generation units allocated amongst the varying power prices on the Bitcoin network. So that's really the next step to understand how much more Hash rate may come offline. Speaker 200:44:09And then the last question here is how long do unprofitable miners stay online? The answer could be some of them shut off immediately, but the truth is many of them may stay online in hopes that network difficulty drops and minor margins improve. So for us, the way we're thinking about this upcoming halving, at minimum, we're expecting somewhere in the range of about a 10% to 15% difficulty drop. And we believe based on the shift that we made across our portfolio that we would have our existing miner fleet be profitable across our portfolio and that's something that we worked really hard to achieve. Speaker 800:44:44That's really helpful. Thank you, Adam. And then if one more question on the having, I know you're focused on larger hosting customers. How does how are you looking at having positive or negative effects on your hosting business and your strategy there? Thank you very much. Speaker 200:45:07Yes. So it's interesting, right? We're going to a having with high Hash prices and it's really yet to be known what the Hash price will be post having. But if Hash prices stay high and older generation units stay online, infrastructure in this industry is going to be extraordinarily constrained. This is something that we like to capitalize on the business. Speaker 200:45:30And we always say that our hosting business is really optionality that we have inside of our infrastructure portfolio to capitalize on moments in time with infrastructure trades at a premium. And so there are different outcomes that could potentially occur post halving, but we're in constant dialogue with potentially large hosting clients to host the newest generation of machines that could provide us either strategic opportunities, for instance, like our hosting agreement with Bitmain or different types of financial opportunities like the proceed sharing arrangements that we announced last year that provide us economic benefits similar to self mining. And we like those types of opportunities going forward. And so we're going to continue to be very opportunistic on the hosting side as we evaluate new and larger hosting clients that we could fit inside of our portfolio. Speaker 800:46:25Great. Thank you very much. Speaker 200:46:28Thanks, Joe. Operator00:46:31Our next question today is from the line of Kevin Dede of H. C. Wainwright. Kevin, your line is now open. Please go ahead. Speaker 900:46:40Thanks. Thanks for having me, Adam and Denise. Appreciate it. I want to piggyback off Joe's question. Speaker 500:46:47How Speaker 900:46:49your competitors malign the hosting business. And Speaker 400:46:52I think you tried to get Speaker 900:46:53to this, but can you withstand a hosting arrangement to that same sort of $0.04 hash cost level? And at what point or at what hash price would you have to make some drastic changes to the arrangements that you have with your existing customers? Speaker 200:47:16Yes, we've been really cognizant of this over the course of 2023. And so one of the main focuses we had over the course of 2023 was ensuring that the hosting clients that we took on were financially strong companies and were providing us with the newest generation machines. So as we moved into 2024, obviously, with having coming up next month, we wanted to be we wanted to ensure that we are in a position where we felt comfortable with not only our hosting counterparties, but also the mix that we are hosting for them. So where we stand today is we have a very strong hosting portfolio. We're evaluating opportunities in the hosting mix to potentially add to our base. Speaker 200:47:58And going forward, we're always going to use hosting as an opportunistic business. And if economics change dramatically like we've seen in the course of 2022, we would be able to replace hosting clients with newer generation equipment and new hosting clients to be able to refit those existing and open slots to be able to increase the profitability of that business once again. Speaker 900:48:25Could you sort of dig in a little bit, Adam, on the infrastructure costs associated with the HPC business, given your excitement of work with CoreWeave again? You mentioned and I totally agree that your infrastructure has great value, but the machine or the buildings you have at Denton aren't necessarily amenable to running HPC machines. So could you kind of give us an outline on how you would convert existing infrastructure or build out future infrastructure to address that? Speaker 200:49:03Yes, absolutely. I mean, we've been in contact with some of the largest providers of cards in the industry to be able to work on how to retrofit existing facilities. This is something that's not uncommon in the data center industry. You see brownfield infrastructure being converted to data centers. And if you take a look at our designs for our facilities, they're actually just pared back data centers that had been developed over the course of the data center industry many years ago. Speaker 200:49:33So we believe our infrastructure base and we completely agree there would be additional costs related to converting some of our existing facilities. But we believe with the counterparties that we're in discussions with that there would be opportunities for CapEx to be partially covered as part of the contractual arrangements with our clients, given the fact that there's such a high time preference right now to get infrastructure online more quickly. These companies have to prove that they can scale. They have to prove that they can bring machines online. And that's something that we can provide given our advantage of owning our own infrastructure today. Speaker 200:50:11So this is something that we've been in deep discussions with a number of different companies, and we're really excited about the opportunities that exist over the course of not only 2024, but beyond that. I touched on infrastructure as a 3 to 5 year game. But power right now at bare minimum is 2 plus years away for these data center companies. So this is a big opportunity for us to be able to execute on, to be able to bring down the time to market for a number of these companies. And there are a number of opportunities in the infrastructure side that can be brought in to help bring that existing infrastructure that we have really up to the needs of the clients that we've been speaking to. Speaker 900:50:51Just a real quick one for Denise. How are you thinking about implementing the new FASB on mark to market in your Bitcoin holdings? Speaker 300:51:01Yes. No, it's a great question, Kevin. And as you know, we actually stopped holding Bitcoin on our balance sheet in 2022. We actually will adopt as of Oneonetwenty 25 or 2024, I apologize. But it really doesn't have a significant impact on us. Speaker 300:51:19We did see a significant improvement in our adjusted EBITDA as we talked in our prepared remarks and that was really based on the fact that we saw the change year over year in the impairment. So while our competitors are actually seeing a significant improvement as they are taking into consideration the actual ability to write up their asset base, As you can see by our financial results, there really wasn't a significant difference between where we are today and the application of the new standard. Operator00:51:56Thank you. Our next question today is from the line of Jack Chan of Imperial Capital. Jack, your line is now open. Please go ahead. Speaker 500:52:04Hi. Do you guys see any opportunities for JVs or partnerships perhaps to accelerate the self mining growth plan or perhaps to also accelerate the growth of the high compute business? Speaker 200:52:20Yes. Thanks, Jack. I mean, right now, what we're really focused on is focused on business plan. Our business plan laid out our continued growth via funding that out of operating free cash flow. There may be opportunities going forward that we may evaluate on the HPC side related to joint ventures. Speaker 200:52:39But this is something that we believe the team we put together over the course of the past few years, you need to think about the team that we've developed in house, right? We've built a team that scales and develops the largest infrastructure base in North America for Bitcoin mining. And this team is coming from the traditional data center industry that has an opportunity to execute on a very unique opportunity that will exist over the course of the next 3 to 5 years. And so right now, we're really just focused on building this out organically, finding good partners and good clients that will work with us given our ability to execute more quickly. And so that's really our focus today on the HPC side. Speaker 200:53:19And on the Bitcoin mining side, this is something we're the largest Bitcoin miner in North America. I mean, something that you need to remember is we've been setting the pace. In 2021, 2022, 2023, we mined more Bitcoin than any miner in North America and it appears we're setting the pace again in 2024. Speaker 500:53:39Appreciate that. On the interest rate for your converts, how you're thinking about the cash pay versus the Toggle option? And will there be an announcement on such? Speaker 200:53:53This is something that we evaluate on a we can evaluate on a quarterly basis. And so that's something that we're still evaluating today for the first round at the end of Q2. So we'll be able to provide more updates to the market as we make decisions around whether we're choosing the 6 percent cash, 6% tick or the 10% cash. Speaker 700:54:17Yes. And the only other thing Speaker 300:54:18to add is, as we've actually detailed out our get service on Slide 17, just to make sure that it's clear, we do actually anticipate in the projections that Speaker 500:54:28we have included on Slide 17 that we Speaker 300:54:30are looking at the option of the 6% cash and 6% PIK. Speaker 500:54:34But as Adam suggested, it is going to be Speaker 300:54:36a quarterly decision going forward. Operator00:54:41Our next question today is from the line of Greg Lewis of BTIG. Greg, your line is now open. Please go ahead. Speaker 600:54:47Hey, thank you everybody and thanks for taking my question. Adam, I was hoping you could talk a little bit about how you're thinking about allocating capital. I mean clearly you've been upgrading the rig fleet 20 sub-twenty 7 jewels for Terash. But as you think about deploying those incremental dollars, how are you weighing the benefits of just using getting better efficiency out of your existing infrastructure and executing that long term infrastructure expansion, which you kind of laid out in the presentation? Speaker 200:55:24Yes. Right now, I mean, we're hyper focused on executing our business plan. Right now, executing on that business plan is definitely putting additional cash on balance sheet, giving where mining economics are today. And so we're having that opportunity prior to this upcoming having to put additional cash on balance sheet for us to feel more comfortable around playing through different types of cash price scenarios. I mentioned earlier priority 2 is paying down debt, but the path to deleveraging that is embedded in our capital structure today is an opportunity for us to be able to fully delever based on strong execution of our company. Speaker 200:56:03And so what that really looks like is we have $600,000,000 in debt, about just over $600,000,000 Speaker 100:56:09We have Speaker 200:56:09a $260,000,000 convert. That is a mandatory conversion feature. And so that leaves about $340,000,000 in regular way debt. We have $670,000,000 upon full exercise of that Tranche 1 warrant. And so right now, all of those, the tranche 1 warrant, the conversion the mandatory conversion of the convertible note, note, those are all things that are within reach if we just start trading somewhat closer to the mean of our peer group in our industry. Speaker 200:56:39So we believe upon strong execution of our business plan, continuing to outperform, we'll have the opportunity to pay down the debt through that pathway and that optionality that's embedded in our capital structure. And so really that's our focus right now, execute, put cash on balance sheet and work towards a pathway to deleveraging and moving to a positive net cash position. Speaker 600:57:05Super helpful. Thanks, Adam. Speaker 200:57:09Thanks, Rick. Operator00:57:11Our next question today is from the line of Darren Aftahi of ROTH MTM. Darren, please go ahead. Speaker 1000:57:19Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my questions. I listened to the live call, so excuse my Speaker 600:57:25if any Speaker 1000:57:25of this has already been asked. But Adam, I'm curious, two things on your agreement with Coreweave and then the broader strategy there. So first, if you expanded megawatts into HPC, Speaker 200:57:42does Corweave have a rover Speaker 1000:57:44on that activity or is it up for grabs? Speaker 200:57:50Any future developments that we make, we mentioned the 300 megawatts of opportunity within our existing infrastructure base, that's up for grabs. From the perspective of we have a great relationship with Core. We've been in discussions with a number of other counterparties. And for us, it comes down to a decision of working with given the contracts are longer dated or 7 years, that's an eternity for most Bitcoin mining companies. But the data center industry, that is really the standard. Speaker 200:58:20So we're going to be working with these clients over a number of years. We want to diversify our customer base over time. And so we're evaluating a number of different opportunities. And you have to remember, right now, there's a high time preference in this industry to get capacity online more quickly. And so opportunities that allow for our clients to be able to bring capacity online more quickly are the types of contracts that we'd be looking to execute on. Speaker 1000:58:45And then when you look at return on invested capital and you talked about retrofitting some of these buildings, like how does that calculus work in looking at an HPC or AI or ML client with a longer term time horizon relative to going down the BTC path? Thanks. Speaker 200:59:07Yes. I mean, the way we're thinking about it right now is there's refresh cycles on machines as well on Bitcoin mining machines. And so there's always additional dollars that need to be spent over the course of time even to maintain a profitable mining business in any given site. So we're definitely evaluating different types of contracts with potential clients that allow for them to pay for some or majority of that CapEx. And so it provides us an opportunity to get strong return on the invested capital that we will be making. Speaker 200:59:39And so that's really something that we've been evaluating. It was obviously something that we evaluated on the first deal that we signed with Correv. We believe we'll have a return on that invested capital inside of a year. Operator00:59:55Our next question today is from the line of Josh Siegal of Cantor Fitzgerald. Josh, your line is now open. Speaker 101:00:02Hi, guys. Thanks for taking my question today. Look, first, I'd love to get a little more color on how you're thinking about energy, especially as you expand into Texas. How are you thinking about navigating the Texas energy Speaker 201:00:14market? Thanks, Josh. I mean, we've been in Texas for a number of years, and we have 2 sites in Texas. So we have our Denton facility and our Pecos location. So the way we're thinking about power in the state of Texas, over the course of the past few years, you've seen long term fixed price PPAs increase over the course of time. Speaker 201:00:33Even renewable PPAs have increased over the course of the past few years. And so the opportunities to go longer dated today aren't as opportunistic for us as looking at shorter dated PPAs. Those also provide greater flexibility around collateral and margin. And so we've been looking at executing these shorter dated fixed price PPAs that provide us the coverage to any potential downside risk as power prices could move in either direction. But it also provides us the opportunity to be able to be much more planned for around the types of machines that we put at those sites, right? Speaker 201:01:11Because the power prices are constantly changing over the course of time that influences the efficiency of the machines that you're putting there. And so we're very well versed in real in allocating machines based on-site level profitability, based on changing economic conditions. And one of the things that we're really proud of, we've built our own energy management software in house. This qualifies us for even the highest programs inside of Texas, which are some of the most stringent requirements across the United States. And we've been able to qualify for all of those. Speaker 201:01:44And so that's something that we believe is unique to us. All of that capability is in house. We're not relying on 3rd party software providers for that. So not only do we feel we have a good strategy on the power hedging side, but also our internal capabilities are exceptional in this industry. Speaker 101:02:03Great. Appreciate it. That's very helpful color. Switching gears a little bit to the HPC side of things. I was wondering if you guys have considered cloud compute? Speaker 101:02:12And if so, what made you stick with the direction on cloud based solutions? Speaker 201:02:19Yes. You have to think about what we're really good at, right? We're really great at building infrastructure at scale rapidly and better than anyone else. That's something that we've proven over the course of the past few years in the Bitcoin mining side, building infrastructure that's better than the rest of the industry and faster than the rest of the industry. So that's what we're really good at. Speaker 201:02:38Our design and development team on the infrastructure side comes out of the traditional data center industry. And so we need we're thinking about our core competencies here. Our core competencies are designing, developing and operating digital infrastructure at scale with great efficiency. And that's something that we really pride ourselves on that we've been able to execute on better than anyone else in Bitcoin Mining. We're expecting similar results on the digital infrastructure side as well. Operator01:03:08Our next question today is from the line of Lucas Pipes of B. Riley. Lucas, your line is open. Please go ahead. Speaker 601:03:15Thank you very much taking my follow-up questions. First, Adam, sorry if I missed it, but what's the CapEx budget for the miners in 2024? Speaker 201:03:27Yes, that's something that we haven't announced yet. That's something that we're currently working through and we're going to be opportunistic over the course of 2024 related to how miners are priced post adding. What I can say right now is the XPs and the S21s that we've ordered so far for this year that have been announced, we've made all the payments required in 2024 on both of those deals. So we're very comfortable from where we're at today. The only planned CapEx on the infrastructure side is the $20,000,000 related to the Denton expansion and we'll continue to evaluate future miner purchases as we go through the Havin. Operator01:04:09Thank you. This will conclude the question and answer session for today. So I would like to hand back to Steve Gillan for any closing remarks. Speaker 101:04:18Thank you very much, Harry, and thank you all for your attention and your interest in Core Scientific. An archived version of this call, all SEC filings and relevant company and industry news can be found on our website, corescientific.com. We wish you a good day and we look forward to speaking with you again following next quarter's results.Read moreRemove AdsPowered by