NASDAQ:SGMO Sangamo Therapeutics Q4 2023 Earnings Report $0.71 +0.02 (+2.96%) Closing price 04/17/2025 04:00 PM EasternExtended Trading$0.71 +0.01 (+1.05%) As of 04/17/2025 06:11 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. Earnings HistoryForecast Sangamo Therapeutics EPS ResultsActual EPS-$0.34Consensus EPS -$0.25Beat/MissMissed by -$0.09One Year Ago EPSN/ASangamo Therapeutics Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$2.04 millionExpected Revenue$8.96 millionBeat/MissMissed by -$6.92 millionYoY Revenue GrowthN/ASangamo Therapeutics Announcement DetailsQuarterQ4 2023Date3/13/2024TimeN/AConference Call DateWednesday, March 13, 2024Conference Call Time4:30PM ETUpcoming EarningsSangamo Therapeutics' Q1 2025 earnings is scheduled for Thursday, May 8, 2025, with a conference call scheduled at 4:30 PM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Q1 2025 Earnings ReportConference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Annual Report (10-K)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Sangamo Therapeutics Q4 2023 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrMarch 13, 2024 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 12 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good day and thank you for standing by and welcome to Sangamo Fourth Quarter 2023 Teleconference. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. After the speakers' presentation, there will be a question and answer Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I'd now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Louise Wilke, Vice President of Investor Relations, Corporate Communications. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:40Good afternoon. Thank you for joining us on the call today, where we'll be not only sharing our progress across the business, but also sharing exciting new data that we believe reinforce our decision to become a neurology focused genomic medicine company. Slides from today's presentation, which are being screenshared through the live webcast link, can be found on our website, sangamo.com, under the Investors and Media sections of the Events and Presentations page. This call includes forward looking statements regarding Sangamo's current expectations. These statements include, but are not limited to, statements relating to the therapeutic and commercial potential of our product candidates and engineered capsids the anticipated plans and time lines of Sangamo and our collaborators for regulatory submissions, initiating and conducting clinical trials, screening and dosing patients and presenting clinical data advancements of our product candidates anticipated submissions, feedback from and interactions with the regulatory agencies advancement of preclinical programs to the clinic our strategic reprioritization and reallocation of resources and the anticipated benefits thereof, plans to partner certain of our programs, the sufficiency of our resources, cash runway and plans to seek additional capital and the timing of related updates our initial financial guidance for 2024 and estimates of 2024 operating expenses, upcoming catalysts and milestones and other statements that are not historical facts. Speaker 100:02:01Actual results may differ materially from what we discuss today. These statements are subject to certain risks and uncertainties that are discussed in our filings with the SEC, specifically in our annual report on Form 10 ks for the fiscal year ended December 31, 2023, filed with the SEC. The forward looking statements dated today are made as of this date, and we undertake no duty to update such information except as required by law. On this call, we discuss our non GAAP operating expenses. Reconciliation of this measure to our GAAP operating expenses can be found in our press release, which is available on our website. Speaker 100:02:34Please note that all forward looking statements about our future plans and expectations, including our financial guidance, are subject to our ability to secure adequate additional funding. On today's call, I'm joined by Sandy MacRae, Chief Executive Officer Patricia Durababu, Chief Financial Officer Amy Pula, Head of Research Greg Davis, Head of Technology and Natalie Dubar Stringfellow, Chief Development Officer. Now I'll turn the call over to our CEO, Sandy Macrae. Speaker 200:03:01Thank you, Louise, and good afternoon to everyone joining the call. Today, we are pleased to discuss Sangamo's recent pipeline advancements that solidify our sharpened strategic focus in neurology and help contextualize why we made this important decision to dedicate ourselves to addressing neurological disorders. On this call, we will explore our most recent announcement highlighting the remarkable preclinical data from our new intravenously administered capsid that demonstrated an ability to cross the blood brain barrier and how our technology could potentially unlock value across our next generation neurology programs. We will then outline how we plan to progress our neurology assets into the clinic. The advancement of neurological medicines has long been limited by the inability to achieve widespread central nervous system delivery, particularly across the blood brain barrier. Speaker 200:03:57Due to this obstacle, many devastating conditions affecting millions of patients go untreated. With conviction in our science and the promise that it holds, we announced in the Q3 of 2023 having seen initial results from the capsid that we would prioritize our resources to focus on our neurology pipeline. We implement these changes because we believe that Sangamo holds great potential to unlock new treatments for patients with neurological diseases by pairing our highly potent epigenetic regulators with an additional key requisite for success in the neurological space, a capsid capable of crossing the blood brain barrier to successfully deliver the drug where it needs to go. Today's announcement that we have engineered such capsid, which demonstrated industry leading blood brain barrier penetration and brain transduction in non human primates. This validates our conviction in such an important area potentially taking us one step closer to helping patients who are suffering from devastating conditions. Speaker 200:05:07Sangamo is proud to be developing both epigenetic regulation cargo and advanced capsid delivery capabilities that could finally lead to new treatments for many neurological conditions. This differentiated approach underpins our wholly owned neurology pipeline. Our purpose is clear as we strive to unlock value as a strategic highly focused company and an industry partner determined to help patients in need. As preclinical data from our new STACK BBB delivery capsid will demonstrate in this presentation, our dual epigenetic regulation capsid delivery capability showed the ability to cross the blood brain barrier, which we believe is critically important developing therapies to potentially treat prion disease, tauopathies and other neurological conditions. These data further support further advancement of our prion and tau programs, which are on track for regular submissions to enter the clinic by the end of 20 25. Speaker 200:06:05Meanwhile, we continue to advance our lead candidate in chronic neuropathic pain, NAF1.7, which uses an intrathecally administered capsid towards an investigational new drug submission with the U. S. Food and Drug Administration expected in the Q4 of this year. It is also important to recognize the significance of our recent Fabry disease advancements. We recently presented compelling Phase III data at the 20th Annual World Symposium showing enormous promise across many important biomarkers and measures of efficacy. Speaker 200:06:43Importantly, we also recently announced alignment with the agency on a remarkable abbreviated clinical pathway to potential approval. The FDA advised that a single study with up to 25 patients in combination with confirmatory evidence is an acceptable pathway to BLA submission for isorogagenecevaparvavec. This is a significant development as conducting a single study of this nature would enable a potentially abbreviated and most cost effective pathway to potential approval than was ever originally anticipated. In addition, the European Medicines Agency granted priority medicine eligibility for the program, which could potentially further accelerate activities in Europe. We are thrilled with this progress and are in active discussions to partner this program, which if successful, we anticipate could form key source of non dilutive funding. Speaker 200:07:44I continue to strongly believe that our Fabry disease program could be transformative for patients and the compelling clinical data presented at world coupled with these highly encouraging regulatory updates underpin that belief. As the only biopharmaceutical company known to be internally dealt in both the innovative genome targeting cargo and the required delivery capsids, we believe that Sangamo is well positioned to potentially usher in the future of neurology genomic medicines. Amy will share this in detail, but I first wanted to show you what got us so excited. Our zinc finger epigenetic regulators have demonstrated potency and selectivity across a variety of different indications. This is clearly seen in the left panels showing how expression of the zinc finger repressors in vivo in non human primates, which are shown in green on the left, demonstrated nearly complete elimination of RNA expression neurons from the targeted gene shown in white, in this case tau. Speaker 200:08:53The panel to the right gives you a first glimpse of our new intravenously administered AAV capsid variant that we're calling STACK BBB, where STACK stands for Sangamo Therapeutics AAV capsid. A picture can tell a 1,000 words and we were excited to see the dark purple stain in the brain image to the on the right of the slide, which shows that stacked BBB mediated efficient blood brain barrier crossing and widespread cargo delivery throughout the brain of non human privates in important new preclinical studies. We're extremely encouraged that STACK BBB, which we engineered through our sifter capsid engineering platform significantly outperformed other known published capsids evaluated in our study. It achieved widespread brain delivery and transgene expression as well as de targeting of the liver and other peripheral tissues and was generally well tolerated. We look forward to telling you more about these remarkable findings today. Speaker 200:09:57First, though, I want to spend a moment highlighting our choicefulness in our lead neurology programs for NaV1.7 and prion disease. We are particularly pursuing these targets because one, they're validated by human genetics 2, they have a well defined patient population 3, they have a delivery we believe to be achievable using AAV capsids and 4, could lead to quantifiable quicker patient outcomes. Importantly, they represent a significant medical need and commercial opportunity. NaV1.7 addresses a significant unmet need with over 43,000 patients in the U. S. Speaker 200:10:39Alone who face intractable pain resulting from small fiber neuropathy. These people live with constant debilitating pain is unimaginable to the most of us. In fact, these conditions have a higher suicide rate than in the broader population. With promising preclinical data for our NAV1.7 program, we believe we have a clear route to clinical proof of concept. We expect an IND submission in Q4 of this year and hope to be in the clinic next year with initial clinical data anticipated by the end of 2025. Speaker 200:11:16Importantly, NAF1.7 uses a well known intrathecally administered capsid for delivery. Cryon disease is a truly devastating condition with more than 1500 patients diagnosed per year across U. S. And Europe. It is a disease that rapidly progresses and is always fatal, usually within 12 months to 15 months of symptom onset and there are no currently effective treatment options available. Speaker 200:11:46However, we are hopeful we can advance treatment of this disease as the repression of Prion in our preclinical models significantly extended survival in mice. They lived a normal mouse lifetime. We anticipate filing a clinical trial authorization submission in the UK because thanks to Mad Cow disease, they have an excellent infrastructure for identifying and caring for prion patients. Our CTA enabling studies are already underway and we expect to submit the CTA in the Q4 of 2025. While we intend to progress our core programs towards regular submissions, we believe that the exciting STACK BBB data we will discuss today also potentially unlocks a number of potential additional programs that were paused pending the identification of a suitable blood brain barrier penetrant capsid. Speaker 200:12:44They were waiting for STACK BBB. The first of these is the repression of the gene that produces tau, MAPT to address tauopathies such as Alzheimer's disease. With the identification of STAT BBB, we intend to resume the development of tau program with an IND submission expected as early as Q4 of 2025. In addition, STACK BBB could also potentially unlock multiple other neurology, epigenetic regulation programs that were paused by Sangamo pending the identification of such capsid diseases such as Parkinson's disease, mytronic Trisavi Type 1. Sangamo is exploring avenues to resume development of these programs with new potential collaborators. Speaker 200:13:34With our reinvigorated neurology focus and our momentum already underway in 2024, we anticipate multiple potential near term milestones for now and the end of 2025. We also anticipate milestones for our later stage non urology programs that could provide additional important non dilutive funding. As we plan to partner our Fabry disease program, we expect to complete dosing in the Phase III STAR study in the first half of this year. For our partnered HIMI program, Pfizer expects to present Phase 3 results in the middle of this year, just a few months away and anticipates potential regulatory submissions in the U. S. Speaker 200:14:18And Europe in early 2025, assuming that the pivotal readout is supportive. We are then eligible to earn up to $220,000,000 in milestone payments and up to 14% to 20% royalties on potential sales from this program. Before we show you the detailed data, it's important to take a moment to talk about our current financial position. Over the course of 2023, we proactively made difficult decisions to preserve our most valuable assets. We declared our intention to become a focused neurology genomic medicine company, carefully aligned our resources investments to that vision and advanced multiple reductions in force to significant limit our spend. Speaker 200:15:05As a result, we've reduced our operating expenses by approximately 50% year over year. Whilst difficult, these were the right decisions to make as I'm sure you'll see in great detail very shortly. 3 with approximately $81,000,000 in available cash, cash equivalents and marketable securities. We believe that these resources in combination with potential future cost reductions will be sufficient to fund our planned operations into the Q3 of 2024 without factoring in any additional capital raises. Given our streamlined structure, we expect our 2024 non GAAP operating expenses to be in the range of $125,000,000 to $145,000,000 as we complete our strategic transformation, fulfill our responsibilities and we anticipate our operating expenses to further decrease to under $105,000,000 dollars in 2025 as we transition our legacy clinical programs. Speaker 200:16:09In the meantime, we continue to actively pursue a number of different opportunities to raise additional capital. I'll now turn it over to Amy to discuss our latest capsidata along with other updates from our pipeline. Amy? Speaker 300:16:24Thank you, Sandy, and hello to everyone joining today's call. We know that widespread CNS delivery is challenging with conventional AAVs, which is why we have developed our sister platform, which is designed to enable the selection of neurotropic AAV capsid variants. We do this by using a directed evolution process to create, refine and select the best possible capsid from a library of millions of unique capsids. When we set out to develop an industry leading novel IV administered capsid, we outlined the key characteristics needed for success, one that could solve the challenges that many drug developers have historically faced. We knew that this capsid needed to have broad brain coverage in all the key areas integral to disease pathology. Speaker 300:17:06Enhanced enrichment in the brain compared to other capsid as well as robust neuronal transduction. We also needed it to express the zinc finger therapeutic cargo and repress the target gene, all while being easily manufacturable at scale. Although this may seem like a lot of boxes to check, we believe each of these qualities is essential for a truly effective capsid that could be deployed into humans. That is why we are so pleased with the preclinical data from our recent non human primate studies that demonstrate how well placed STACK BBB is to potentially address these criteria. In these preclinical studies, we are encouraged to see that STACK BBB demonstrated robust penetration of the blood brain barrier and widespread gene expression throughout the brain, primarily targeting neurons regardless of the promoter and with results that were consistent across individual animals and groups. Speaker 300:17:57We saw extensive expression of zinc finger cargo throughout the brain, including key disease relevant regions, a clear dose response curve for zinc finger expression and a corresponding repression of the disease target. Vector genomes were enriched in the central nervous system while detargeted from the dorsal root ganglia and liver. And as Sandy mentioned, crucially, we believe the stacked DBb is also manufacturable at scale. So how did we assess this performance? In our latest experiments, we started with 100,000,000 capsid capsid variants, which engineered with a specific peptide insertion and carefully barcoded to enable tracking. Speaker 300:18:33We then evaluated these capsid variants through progressive rounds of screening, enriching for the best performers through 3 rounds of selection until we identified STACK BBB as the standout high performer. The visualization shown here is the final round of the sifter screening process, where 12 60 novel capsids are all evaluated simultaneously and cynomolgous macaques. On this graph, the y axis shows the relative level of enrichment of the capsid throughout the brain with 0 representing capsids that exhibited no comparative enrichment in the brain. What we're looking for here is a high degree of neuronal RNA expression indicating successful BBB crossing and delivery to neurons. We see on the x axis the overall coefficient of variation or in other words how consistent the fold change enrichment is among the samples that were tested. Speaker 300:19:24We are looking for a capsid that is both highly enriched in the brain and that we are able to reliably detect across multiple tissues, showing that the results are reproducible and not a one off chance outcome. The highest performing capsids will be found in the top left corner. So we are very encouraged to see the STACK BBB capsid coming out on top, outperforming all the others in the library on this assessment. The library assessment also included known published neurotrophic capsid variants were evaluated head to head in addition to our own. We are very pleased that STACK BBB was the top performing capsid in this benchmarking study. Speaker 300:19:58Moreover, we also saw this performance was consistent across all three animals and multiple levels of the brain with STACK BBB illustrated here in green consistently outperforming the next best published capsid here shown in orange. In fact, we saw a 700 fold better enrichment in the brain for STACK BBB compared to the benchmark capsid AAV9 shown in blue on this graph, highlighting the superior neuronal expression needed by STACK BBB. On this next graphic, you can see how the superior performance continues to be demonstrated difficult to reach with intrathecal administrations of antisense oligonucleotides also called ASOs or more traditional capsids. The liver can act as a primary sync for intravenously administered capsids. However, we saw there was significant detargeting of STACK BBB in the liver with 100 fold lower expression compared to the benchmark AAV capsid when compared against historical Sangamo studies at the same dose. Speaker 300:21:02Low peripheral exposure in the liver is desired. We then conducted follow on studies taking our lead capsid STACK BBB and testing its individual performance. On the left of the slide, we see an image of a non human primate brain. Is from an animal that was treated with a SacBB capsid administered intravenously at a dose of 2e13 vector genomes per kilogram and packaged with both a nuclear localized green fluorescent protein or GFP as well as a zinc finger repressor targeting the prion gene. We then used antibody labeling to stain for the GFP cargo is illustrated with the deep purple or almost black coloring you see on the left side. Speaker 300:21:40We are very pleased to see both a widespread and uniform expression of GFP mediated by stack BBB throughout all the gray matter, which is where the cell bodies reside in the brain. Conversely, you see no GFP expression in the white matter as we would anticipate because it primarily consists of myelinated axons. On the right is a control animal that wasn't treated with AAV, but the tissue was processed in the same way to visualize GFP. And as you can see, there is no signal. If you dive deeper into some of the cortical regions, you can see there are 2 types of staining. Speaker 300:22:12You see the darker purple staining, which is the GFP cargo being expressed by the Stack BBB. And then the lighter blue is a nistle stain that labels all the cell nuclei in the brain. It's important to note that there are many different cell types in the brain with neurons making up roughly 19% to 40% of all cells dependent on the brain region. Here we clearly see that STACK BBB is neurotropic with pronounced staining of the cell nuclei and in some places even an overflow of GFP protein out into the cell body of the neuron. This This transcription was consistent across the cortical regions shown, which are important to many different disease pathologies and appears largely localized to neurons. Speaker 300:22:52This transduction was consistent across 12 other brain regions we analyzed with clear enrichment of SacBB observed in the neurons in each of these areas. Because of the observed neurotrophic nature of SacBB, the level of enrichment seems to align with the number of corresponding neurons found in each brain region. The lateral geniculate nucleus, for example, is tightly packed with neurons and we saw striking STACK BVB enrichment here. Extensive transduction is crucial because each area is linked to a whole range of diseases for which treatments are desperately needed. Based on this compelling data, we believe that diseases such as Huntington's disease, Parkinson's disease, ALS or Friedreich's ataxia could all be potentially unlocked by STACK BBB and our Sengsinger cargo. Speaker 300:23:34If we dive a little deeper into some of these brain regions, for example, the dentate nucleus, the steep cerebellar region is particularly hard to reach with CSF routes of administration. However, using an intravenous approach where we're leveraging the intimate relationship between the brain vasculature and neurons, we are able to transduce almost all the neurons in this region. As you see here, 30 out of 31 neurons visible in this field were transduced. We were thrilled to see this robust level of brain transduction. Moreover, this consistent transduction was reproducible across animals. Speaker 300:24:07Here we show the dentate nucleus of 3 separate animals treated with STACK BPP, all of which exhibited similar levels of GFP expression. Finally, we believe STACK BBB is manufacturable at scale. Capsid's manufacturability is critical to creating a successful commercial drug product for patients. We expect to leverage our long track record of AAV production and process development to manufacture spec BBB at scale. Our tech ops team has manufactured the capsid at 50 liters and are currently scaling up to 500 liters. Speaker 300:24:37We have been able to produce the capsid using both the HEK293 and SF9 platforms. We believe STACK BBB is manufacturable at commercial scale using standard cell culture and purification processes, is soluble using known excipients and can be characterized using available analytics, which we consider to be crucial factors in the potential long term success as we seek to scale up to the levels needed for clinical trials for potential commercialization. I'll now turn it back to Sandy to discuss our zinc finger platform. Sandy? Speaker 200:25:06Thanks Amy. As Amy emphasized, our latest STACK PBB data demonstrate that we've engineered a capsid that exhibited brain wide delivery in non human primates. However, this is only one half of the effect of neurology genomic medicine. I will now tell you that other half are potent zinc finger cargo, which can be combined with our delivery capsids to potentially create truly innovative genomic medicines. Our neurology pipeline leverages Sangamo's proprietary Zinc Finger gene targeting technology, a high precision genomic engineering platform. Speaker 200:25:43Think of Sync Fingers as the landing mechanism, which can identify the exact zip code within the genome to attach and to regulate. This is what they do in the bodies and brains of all of us. Zinc fingers are highly versatile, extremely customizable and very compact, meaning they can be easily packaged into viral vectors. They're roughly 1 eighth the size of other editing modalities. So we believe we can package up to 3 repressors if necessary into 1 AAV capsid and repress several genes at any one time if we wanted to. Speaker 200:26:19They're also derived from human proteins, which potentially avoids issues with immunogenicity that may arise with bacterial proteins. Think of our Zinc Finger platform as a Swiss Army knife, which is flexible and offers different tools based on your needs. Broadly, zinc fingers recognize an 18 base pair piece of DNA to induce a variety of actions such as causing a double stranded break via nuclease properties, activation, repression, base editing, epigenetic modification and site specific integration. Our base editing capabilities were highlighted last month in Nature Communications showing that compact zinc finger architecture utilizes toxin derived cytin deaminases for highly efficient base editing in human cells. We are pleased to read in nature communications that other groups believe zinc fingers are the most capable epigenetic regulation tool and are delighted with our partnership with Chroma Medicine who have licensed our zinc fingers exactly for this purpose. Speaker 200:27:27We are currently focusing on leveraging our epigenetic regulation capabilities in neurology and the data that follows on Praion, tau and NAV1.7 will focus on that technology specifically. So Amy, can you now tell us a little more about how the zinc fingers are leveraged in our Prion and tau programs? Speaker 300:27:46Thanks, Sandy. Turning now to prion disease, which affects approximately 600 patients a year in the U. S. And Canada and around 900 in Europe. Prion disease is an awful disease, typically fatal in 12 to 15 months. Speaker 300:27:59There are no approved disease modifying therapies that currently exist. Prion is an excellent fit for zinc finger repression. We know that prion knockout animals do not get the disease prion reduction can delay or prevent disease and neuronal prion production, a protein reduction also prevents disease. We therefore believe that the repression of prion expression may slow or halt disease progression and neurodegeneration. We knew that we wanted to achieve widespread delivery to the brain for prion disease, given that misfolded prion protein spreads throughout the brain as the disease progresses. Speaker 300:28:33As mentioned earlier, we therefore packaged our prion targeted zinc finger repressor into the newly identified SacBB capsid and administered it intravenously to 3 separate non human primates. In order to assess which regions of the Brain SacBB delivers to, we collected 220 punches from each animal and conducted RT qPCR analyses to measure how much prion targeted zinc finger was expressed. Each dot on these brain images illustrates the location of 1 of the punches we collected and each row represents 1 of the 3 animals that was dosed. The color represents the level of the prion targeted zinc finger expression that was measured. As you can see from the key in the top right, ZFR expression levels are indicated by the intensity of green for each one of the punches. Speaker 300:29:19These results confirmed the GFP protein expression data and support that STACK BBB mediated consistent brain wide expression of prion targeted zinc finger repressor in all three animals. We next wanted to quantify if expression correlated with an associated reduction in preon mRNA in these brain punches. We were happy to see a reduction of preon expression in all 35 brain regions that we analyzed. As a reminder, these brain punches do not solely consist of neurons, but additional brain cell types as well, cells such as oligodendrocytes, astrocytes and microglia. Because prion is expressed in multiple brain cell types, when we are seeing total prion reduction here at the bulk brain level of 20% to 30%, the percent reduction in individual neurons must be significantly higher. Speaker 300:30:05When looking at the single cell analyses and similar studies in the past, including the tau data I will show you in a moment, we have seen upwards of 80 percent reduction at the individual neuron level. Speaker 400:30:16So how do we think Speaker 300:30:17the level of repression we saw in the green bar graph just now will impact disease progression? Based on this level of bulk repression observed in the mouse model of aggressive prion disease, we concluded that zinc finger repressors can significantly extend survival in prion infected animals. In collaboration with the Broad Institute, we engineered zinc finger repressors to target the mouse prion gene and administered these as a single dose in mice either 60 or 122 days following prion infection. Without any intervention, you can see that clearly the untreated mice consistently die around 160 days post infection. However, mice treated with a single administration of a prion zinc finger repressor showed notable extended survival compared to those control animals living to beyond 400 or 500 days after infection, which is within the normal lifespan of a mouse. Speaker 300:31:06This is an incredible alteration in disease progression. In a separate published study, performance of ASOS also illustrated on this graphic was evaluated in the same mouse model. These data show that multiple treatments were required starting from approximately 70 days post infection as shown in graph 2 to be able to induce an extension in lifespan. And when ASOS were administered at a later time point post infection as shown in graph 4 when the disease was further progressed, there was only minimal extension in lifespan. Conversely, even when administered 122 days post infection shown in graph 3, which is a timeline more aligned to what we believe we will see in the clinic, a single dose of the zinc finger repressor was still able to profoundly delay disease progression and extend survival in mice. Speaker 300:31:53These data reflect the 2e13 VG per kilogram dose level, which is considered a mid dose of AAV, showing that we have the potential to dose higher should we decide that that's appropriate. The pream program is progressing with our clinical lead zinc finger repressor that showed greater than 95% pream reduction per cell with no detectable off targets and meaningful potency both in vitro and in vivo. We expect to begin clinical enabling toxicology studies in the second half of this year and anticipate submitting a clinical trial application in the U. K. For PRION in the Q4 of 2025. Speaker 300:32:28Moving now to tau, a well known target for the treatment of neurodegenerative diseases called tauopathies. Recent data from Biogen's ASO study shows stabilization of cognitive function with regular injections of ASOs addressing tau, which seems to cement tau's implication in Alzheimer's disease. In addition, there are also a host of tauopathy disorders that span more than 12 distinct indications, including progressive supranuclear palsy and frontotemporal dementia and accounts for a very large patient population with a high unmet medical need that we could potentially address with our zinc finger approach. Using a combination of STACK BBB delivery capabilities and a tau zinc finger repressor, we see a potential ability to halt disease progression with a one time IV administration for various tauopathy indications given the capsids demonstrated ability to reach all the brain regions with a high specificity in non human primates. Here we packaged our clinical lead tau zinc finger repressor, which shows fantastic repression of tau, exceptionally specific expression and no detectable off targets in vitro into our stacked BBB capsid and tested it at 3 different intravenously administered doses, 5e12, 2e13, and 1e14 vector genomes per kilo. Speaker 300:33:43Similar to the slide we saw before on Preon, here we are looking for widespread expression of the zinc finger repressor throughout the brain. Here we were also assessing the 3 dose levels and we're very pleased to see dose dependent expression with the intensity of green increasing as the dose increased, indicating a higher level of zinc finger expression. Importantly and similarly to the PRION study, we are not only looking at the level of zinc finger expression, but also the corresponding levels of tau repression. Here we show these data for the deep brain thalamic region, including the lateral geniculate nucleus. Like prion, tau is a gene that is expressed not only in neurons but also in astrocytes and oligodendrocytes. Speaker 300:34:23We know that tau expression in neurons is the critical driver of disease pathology, which is why we are so focused on repressing it in these cells. In this case, the clinical lead construct uses a synapsin promoter. So we know that we are only targeting zinc finger expression to neurons. We were pleased to see a dose dependent increase in zinc finger expression that correlated with a dose dependent decrease of tau expression. Like in the prion experiments, this is a bulk analysis of whole brain punches, which consists of many cell types, not just neurons. Speaker 300:34:52So to be able to achieve this level of tau repression at the bulk level, we must be achieving significantly higher repression at the single cell level in neurons. Here you'll see that we achieved an almost 50% reduction in tau at the bulk level and at the top dose in the lateral geniculate nucleus, which is likely correlated to the higher proportion of neurons we see in this region, as illustrated by the dark staining in the image above from the same brain region in the GFP arm of the study. Let's take a moment to look more closely at the PoNS, part of the brainstem and a key brain region in the tauopathy called progressive supranuclear palsy. On the left is the bulk tissue punch analysis for this region. And like what I showed you on the previous slide, we saw a correlation between increased zinc finger expression and decreased tau expression in a dose dependent manner. Speaker 300:35:38Because understanding the activity of the zinc finger at the single cell level is so important, in addition to the bulk brain tissue analysis, we also utilized a multiplexed RNA scope and immunohistochemistry approach to visualize ZFR expression and tau repression in neurons. This data is beautiful and shows a high level of detail that is only recently possible, allowing us to understand what's going on at the single cell level. On the top is a PoNS image from a control animal and the bottom is from an animal treated with the top dose of STACK BBB encoding the tau clinical beads in finger repressor. In purple are the neurons, which in the control animals robustly expressed tau mRNA shown in white. Conversely, in the bottom row of images, you can clearly see that where the zinc finger was expressed in green, we saw a striking corresponding reduction of tau. Speaker 300:36:28We calculate that approximately 80% of the neurons expressing fingers in this region, which resulted in almost complete repression of tau in those cells. Here we show more of this beautiful single cell data demonstrating the power of both STACK BBB and our tau zinc finger repressor working together, in this instance in the motor cortex. On the top row, you see the vehicle control where tau mRNA was clearly expressed across the brain region, in particular within neurons in purple and glia in orange. Here, no zinc finger repressor was detected and the tau mRNA levels remain consistent between the different images. Conversely, at the bottom, we see a potent repression of tau mRNA across the image on the left. Speaker 300:37:09Zooming into this a little more in the middle image and as indicated in green, we detected the zinc finger repressor particularly in neurons. And importantly, where we saw the zinc finger repressor expression, we saw an almost complete elimination of tau mRNA most visible in the bottom right panel. This is truly encouraging data that gives us great hope for the promise of a single administration of STACK PBB and our tau zinc finger repressor. For our tau program, we have identified the clinical lead zinc finger and IND enabling activities are well advanced, making this program well suited to move into the clinic either ourselves or with a potential partner. Toxicology studies could be initiated as early as the Q2 of this year with a potential IND NAV1.7, and how we're using this program as a way to balance the portfolio through a diversified delivery approach. Speaker 300:38:07Our NAV1.7 program does not leverage secbbb, but instead uses a known AAV delivery capsid that is already in the clinic. Our aim here was to develop a medicine capable of reaching the dorsal root ganglia as nav1.7 is a voltage gated sodium channel expressed there. And mutations in this channel play a critical role in pain perception. By potently reducing NAV-1.7 in the DRG, we believe we can prevent the transmission of nociceptive pain signals in order to treat chronic neuropathic pain and host of other indications. There is an urgent need for new therapies in this space and a potentially very large patient population to address. Speaker 300:38:44So we are very motivated to be moving forward with our NAV1.7 program and plan to initially focus on patients with small fiber neuropathy. As you see here, preclinical data from our clinical lead zinc finger repressor targeting SCN9A, the gene that encodes NAV1.7, demonstrated a meaningful repression in vitro with exquisite levels of specificity as we only saw repression of NAV1.7 without impacting any other sodium channels. It's difficult to use small molecules to treat these channels because NAV channels share a lot of structural similarities at the protein level. However, at the DNA level, they are distinct, which makes them well suited to the zinc finger technology. Taking this into animal models on the left, you see a study targeting neurons in the DRG to groups of cells outside the spinal column in the blood brain barrier. Speaker 300:39:32Using intrathecal injection of the zinc finger repressor in mice, we observed significant expression, which you see in red. This then resulted in an almost complete elimination of the SCN9A expression shown by the absence of white, which indicated a potent knockdown of the NAV1.7 gene at the mRNA level. If you look at the middle pane, you can understand what this looks like in a mouse model. We use the gold standard mouse model of neuropathic pain called the spared nerve injury model and performed a single injection of the zinc finger repressor intrathecally after the nerves were cut to induce pain. The single administration of our Zynqinga repressor resulted in a full reversal of pain perception in these animals as indicated by the orange and dark red bars in the bottom middle pane, which are very similar to the results of those animals that have never received the surgery as indicated in blue, which is very impressive. Speaker 300:40:23Finally, you see the non human primate study on the far right where we wanted to show that we can target the DRG and achieve potent repression of SCN9A. In the study, we administered 3 different doses of zinc fingers intrathecally and we saw dose dependent and potent repression of NAV1.7. Importantly, there's a lot of research emphasis on peer reviewed publications about identifying any potential DRG toxicity and we did not find anything in these studies that would be indicative of such toxicity, which is crucial as we seek to advance this program into the clinic. We are very encouraged by the NAV-1.7 program and we look forward to completing these final toxicology studies. We to submit an IND for this program in the Q4 of this year. Speaker 300:41:05I will now hand back to Sandy to wrap this up before we open for Q and A. Speaker 200:41:09Thank you, Amy. Really appreciate everyone joining us today as we look forward to answering your questions. And what we've outlined, we strongly believe in the power of our science to address devastating neurological conditions. We're advancing epigenetic regulation cargo and novel AAV capsid for a high value gateway neurological diseases like chronic neuropathic pain and prion disease. Today, we have shown we have a capsid that demonstrated ability to penetrate the blood brain barrier and exhibited industry leading CNS tropism in non human primates. Speaker 200:41:45The development of SACPPB potentially unlocks multiple neurology programs that could be advanced ourselves or with partners as a potential source of non dilutive funding. And we have the prion disease program, which we believe could quickly validate STACK BBB in proteins in humans. In addition, our Fabry disease program has continued to generate compelling Phase III data and is ready for a potential registration study with an abbreviated clinical pathway aligned with the FDA and multiple collaboration discussions in progress. We have transformed Sangamo into a focused neurology business with the potential to transform the lives of patients with debilitating neurological conditions. We have also made the necessary but very difficult decisions to focus our company and streamline our OpEx with intention of reducing our burn, but without impairing potential value. Speaker 200:42:42We believe these changes enable us to set forth an attractive opportunity to raise additional funds via additional potential collaborations. Alongside this, we have the Pfizer collaboration in Himi that brings revenue bearing opportunity with $220,000,000 in potential milestones. As you can see, we believe our company is well positioned to change the lives of patients as a neurology genomic medicine company. Operator, please open the lines for questions. Operator00:43:17And thank you. And our first question comes from Patrick Trucchio from H. C. Wainwright. Your line is now open. Speaker 500:43:43Hello, everyone. Hi, team. This is Luis Santos on for Patrick. Congratulations on this, as you said, beautiful and fantastic data. We are interested in knowing a little bit more what data do you still have left for completion of the package for the CTA and the prion disease? Speaker 500:44:05Also on the tau program, did you release which epitope of tau you are targeting? Maybe I'll have a follow-up question. Thank you. Speaker 200:44:18Thank you, Patrick. These are really good questions. It is beautiful data. And for the team that has been working on this for several years, it's a fulfillment of their scientific careers truly. So I'm going to split into 2. Speaker 200:44:32So the section on how do we get Prion into the clinic, we'll go to Natalie, Head of Development. Speaker 600:44:39Hi, everyone. So for the CTA for Prion, now that we have the STACK BBB, we are gearing to do a GLP tox study, which will be required for the IND. In order to do this, we have to manufacture the product to put in the tox study, and we're going to do this this year for filing an IND in the end of 2025. We also need to do a clinical manufacturing lot with the clinical candidate. Speaker 200:45:09You've had great discussions already in the UK with people about the enthusiasm to take this forward? Speaker 600:45:16Absolutely. There is a really good system here where the patient that has prion disease are going to a common center and have we have linked to really the expert in prion disease in the UK and they have also direct communication with the regulatory authority in England. So we think that we're well positioned to really move quickly in the UK. Speaker 300:45:44Thank you, Natalie. And then for types Speaker 600:45:44of Sure. I'm Speaker 200:45:45happy to take that one. I think one of the advantages of the zinc Sure. Speaker 300:45:51I'm happy to take that one. I think one of the advantages of the Zinc Finger platform is that we're targeting tau at the DNA level. We know that there is so much complexity for tau, the different splice variants at the RNA level and then many, many different configurations of tau at the protein level. Because we're targeting upstream of all of that, we believe that we're able to address really all different tauopathies and all of these different possible forms of toxic tau. Speaker 200:46:19Which would be a real competitive and patient advantage? Absolutely. Speaker 500:46:26Just a very quick follow-up. On the dose response, what level of reduction of tau do you expect will be enough to be promising and translational into humans. So what levels of tau reduction will we see will we need to see not just from the beautiful RNAscope images, but at the pathological level, at the physiological level in mice and HP so that we can be more confident in humans? Speaker 300:47:05Yes, that's a great question. It depends on the different brain regions, really the level of repression that we're targeting. But we believe, especially when you look at the outstanding efficacy in the PRION studies that we're in the range that we would be expecting to see some clinical results. What's really important is that at the single cell level, we see an almost complete repression of tau. And this is important because we know that the tauopathies are spreading throughout the brain. Speaker 300:47:33So not only is it important to have that widespread brain delivery like what we're seeing with STACK PBB, but also at a single cell level that we see this really complete repression of tau. Speaker 200:47:43Amy, when you speak to potential partners, what's the level of repression that interest people? Speaker 300:47:50That's a great question. And I think it depends on the indication for some telepathy as we think something between 10% to 30% depending on the brain region would be important. Speaker 700:48:02Thank you. Operator00:48:05And thank you. And our next question comes from Maury Raycroft from Jefferies. Your line is now open. Speaker 800:48:21Hi, thanks for taking my questions and congrats on the update today with the new capsid. I'm wondering with the new capsid, have you looked at relative immunogenicity of it and how that would compare to AAV9 or other published capsids? And based on this, do you see any potential to have a redosing option? Speaker 200:48:43Amy, can you cover that for us, please? And Natalie, maybe you want to say some? Speaker 300:48:51That's a great question. Thank you. These novel engineered capsids are being engineered in order to improve the crossing of the blood brain barrier and brain penetrance. We believe that they have a similar profile compared to other natural capsids with a similar range of neutralizing antibody prevalence. Of course, another frontier of capsid engineering could be to evade that, but that was not what we set out to do in the study. Speaker 300:49:16And we're really excited with the penetrance that we saw in the brain of these animals. Yes. Speaker 600:49:23I think we don't expect to be very different from other AAVs. Of course, patient in the trial will be screened for preexisting antibody to our novel AAV capsid. Speaker 800:49:35Got it. Okay. Makes sense. And for your figure where you compared your capsid to other published capsids, Can you say which capsids these were? What the screening or inclusion criteria was? Speaker 800:49:49And were any excluded, for example, the Voyager Speaker 200:49:55capsid? Thanks, Maury. There are a lot of capsids that people are talking about, which I think reflects the interest in the field and trying to find that magic capsid. We know now from talking to many pharma companies that they have capsid search groups in place because it feels like a next generation neurological disease set of medicines. So we just looked across the literature and identified the mutations that have been made in those capsids and then recreated them in our laboratory, of our capsid on its own, that it's widespread, that it's easily manufacturable, that it hits all the spots that it transduces the zinc fingers and it reduces both tau and prion. Speaker 800:50:56Got it. That's helpful. And last question and then I'll hop back in the queue. Just wondering if you can say anything additional on partnering conversations around these capsid data yet? And if you can provide any more perspective around the terms that you would aim to get for partnering any of your wholly owned CNS programs? Speaker 200:51:19Thanks, Marty. So we've known the ultimate screening round results since the end of last year. And so we've been gradually talking and socializing this with our friends and pharma companies. When we showed the latest data and some of it, the single cell data is only out in the last week or so. The word awesome was used often in this. Speaker 200:51:48So we continue to talk to them because we feel that with both with the capsid itself and the capsid with our cargo, there is no way that Sangamo can advance all of the potential indications with this and that we can only do it through partnership with that kind of pharma ecosystem. Of course, the money is valuable, but it would be wrong for me to start talking about numbers here. And we look forward to finding ways to move this into as many indications as possible. Speaker 800:52:21Got it. Makes sense. Thank you for taking my questions. Operator00:52:32And our next question comes from Nicole Germano from Truist. Your line is now open. Speaker 900:52:39Hi, this is Alex on for Nicole. Congrats on the data Speaker 800:52:42and all the progress. Speaker 900:52:44A couple from us. Can you remind us for your STACK BBB, how does this fit into Alzheimer's given the current focus on the amyloid plaque? And could STACK BBB have any impact on existing plaque? Or do you think that this could be potentially used after approved antibodies? And then I have a follow-up. Speaker 200:53:03So I think we heard your question, so it wasn't quite clear. Amy, can you repeat what you think we're answering and then take it from there? Speaker 300:53:11Sure. I think I may have only caught the first part of your question, which is understanding how targeting tau fits in with the amyloid hypothesis for Alzheimer's disease. Speaker 200:53:21Yes. Can you answer that? Speaker 300:53:22Okay, great. Great. I think that there's been accumulating evidence over the past years, which again, the data that I showed today also from the Biogen trial with the ASOS targeting tau really have shown how important tau is in driving the pathology of the disease. There are patients or let's say people that have a lot of amyloid in their brains, but actually don't have Alzheimer's disease. And it's only when you have this development of tau, the tauopathies that's correlated with the cognitive decline that's associated with the disease. Speaker 300:53:55So we believe like others actually that tau is a critical step in that pathway and then its reduction will be really important for slowing or stopping the progression of the disease. Speaker 200:54:06And particularly when compared to those ASOs, you can give hopefully, we expect you'll be able to give it once and it will have a long time effect. Speaker 300:54:17That's right. Not only would it be single administration, but also be able to target all of the different brain regions that we think are involved in the disease. Speaker 200:54:24Which ASOs don't always do. Speaker 300:54:26That's right. Speaker 200:54:27Can you repeat your second question, please? Speaker 900:54:32Where do you think that in the treatment landscape, where this would play out given the improved antibodies? And do you see this as sort of 4 antibodies afterwards, how do you think the community is doing it? Speaker 200:54:48So perhaps I can take that. And we are at preclinical stage and the data is very encouraging. We need to move it into humans and show its effect. While that's happening, I'm sure that we will in this field, we'll collect a lot of data with other forms of tau antibodies or ASOs and understand the benefit. And gradually, the benefit that we show, I think, will be understood, particularly that it's a one time treatment, which compare that to repeated intrathecal injections, I think it's very appealing. Speaker 200:55:26It's very appealing for the patient, but it's also very appealing for dealing with a confused person. It's also very appealing for hopefully for society to be able to do this easily and in any hospital or clinic in the country. So this is why we're so excited about it. If tau is as important as we're all believing, having a single injection intravenously that crosses the blood brain barrier and completely reduces the production of tau in cells offers an enormous opportunity for what is a devastating disease. Natalie? Speaker 600:56:05Yes. In addition, if you compare this treatment to antibody, as Amy was saying, we're targeting the expression of tau. We're not targeting a specific ectop of a tau protein, which there is many form of tau protein in isomer patient and we don't know exactly which one is the most relevant for each patient. So we're going at the route with the gene epigenetic regulation approach. Speaker 700:56:33Makes sense. Thanks for all the color. Operator00:56:36And thank you. And one moment for our next question. And our next question comes from Luca Eze from RBC. Your line is now open. Speaker 1000:56:54Great. Thanks for taking our questions. This is Lisa on for Luca. Well, congrats on all the progress. I have a few questions on the SIBU program. Speaker 1000:57:05Just wondering if you can add any color on how your conversations with potential partners has changed since you have reached alignment with the FDA on the registrational path forward. And on the FABIR pivotal study, can you share some more additional color on what the primary endpoint will be? Is it fair to assume the FDA will want to see reduction in GL3 inclusions by kidney biopsy similar to what we've seen with Fabryzine? Any color here would be helpful. Thanks so much. Speaker 200:57:40Natalie, you've had been having a lot of these discussions recently. Speaker 600:57:43Yes. So we're absolutely thrilled with our interaction with the FDA and to have aligned in a single well controlled study with confirmatory evidence for the basis of a BLA submission and approval. At this point, we're not commenting on the endpoint for this trial. And of course, we've had and I'll let Sandy comment further, but we've this is very exciting for the potential partner we are in conversation with, as it really accelerate, the past to BLA approval and it's also reduced the cost. Sandy? Speaker 200:58:19Yes. I think an enormous credit is due to Peter Marks and his group at the agency. They have broken a logjam. They've made a public statement that they wanted more gene therapies for genomic medicines for rare diseases to move forward. And that to do that, you have to look at studies that are manageable and endpoints that are achievable. Speaker 200:58:46And that's why this study has then got the notice of lots of people who frankly were standing at the sidelines of Fabry disease wondering how to get it to registration. This is a very manageable study that not only we'll look at biopsy results, but we'll also look at the and this is a direct quote from the agency of the totality of the data and the benefit that it brings to patients. And I think that is such a healthy way to look at medicine approval. And we look forward getting to this into the hands of the partner and to patients and registration as quickly as possible. Speaker 1000:59:30Got it. Thanks so much. Operator00:59:33And thank you. And one moment for our next question. And our next question comes from Yanan Xu from Wells Fargo. Your line is now open. Speaker 700:59:51Hi, thanks for taking our question. This is Kwan on for Yanan. So just a follow-up on the prior fabric questions. Can you share what the potential partners might be looking for? And can we expect to see additional kidney biopsy data from the STAR study? Speaker 701:00:08And I have a follow-up. Speaker 201:00:12So the partners are looking we're very simply looking for compelling clinical data, real benefit that would make patients move from ERT and we now have 13 patients that are off ERT over a year in some cases and no desire to go back on to ERT. I think that's really important. And some of them had been on ERT for a significant time. And some and in those patients, their SF-thirty six is significant and they are moving changing category of false MSSI, which is the investigator rating. So as they are now even though they were treated with the ERT, they're now even better with the gene therapy. Speaker 201:00:58And finally, 7 of them in 7 of them that came in with antibodies, 5 of them, the antibodies have completely disappeared, completely disappeared and then 2 of them significantly reduced. And those are the kind of antibodies that limit the effect eventually limit the effectiveness of the treatment. That's what the partners see and think, wow, this is the meds and that we will be able to take forward. But until we had the second part, which was the regulatory pathway that was manageable, they were cautious. And now that we're the only clinical stage asset for Fabry disease, where we have the best in class data and we have a way forward with the regulatory authorities. Speaker 201:01:42This is a natural place for any pharma company that's looking for a Phase 3 asset to come. Speaker 701:01:50Got it. Thank you so much. My second question is on the pure CapEx. So on the stacked BBB CapEx, can you share how you achieved the 100 fold t targeting on the Ligar? Thank you. Speaker 201:02:05Amy, can you explain that? Speaker 301:02:07Yes, I'm happy to take that. As you saw from the slides that I just presented, we started with a library of 100,000,000 different novel capsids. And we went through a whole screening process using non human primates in order to select for capsids that were enriched in the brain. Although we didn't design specifically the capsids to be detargeted to the liver, we do believe that there's some relationship between that liver detargeting and the really improved targeting of the brain that we saw in those studies. And that's possibly what enabled us to find a capsid that was so well transducing the non human primate brain. Speaker 201:02:41And why is that important Amy? Speaker 301:02:43Well, it's important because the liver is such a thing for intravenously administered AAVs actually by any route. We know that the AAV can go to the liver and it can be potentially an issue for some patients. It's better if we can find a capsid that targets the tissue that we want to transduce to treat these diseases, which in this case is the central nervous system and limits that exposure to the peripheral tissue for safety. Speaker 701:03:08Got it. Thank you so much for all the colors. Operator01:03:13And thank you. And our next question comes from Ambedita Gupta from TD Cowen. Your line is now open. Speaker 401:03:28Hi, guys. This is Anwita on for with you today. Congrats on all the progress and the fantastic data presented today. What are your early thoughts on the potential clinical trial design for the first study with the NAV1.7 in chronic neuropathic pain? And then if you could also provide some color on maybe who would be the ideal patient for this program would be super helpful. Speaker 401:03:51Thank you. Speaker 201:03:53Natalie, can you comment on the route to forward for NaV1.7? Speaker 601:03:58Yes. Yes. Thank you. Yes, we are planning to file an IND for NAV1.7 by the end of this year. And we are finishing our GLP tox study and our clinical manufacturing. Speaker 601:04:16So we will also finalize our clinical protocol. At this point, we are not commenting on the design of the trial or the endpoints, but we are well underway in planning those studies. Speaker 201:04:31Agree, Natalie. I read the protocol last week or the version that's being circulated. And the bit that struck me is in one study, 17% of patients with intractable pain described their life as being worse than death. This is not a toothache or a bunionectomy that has been described for NAV1.8. This is the kind of intractable pain that dominates your life and makes these patients consider suicide and that their life is just awful. Speaker 201:05:04We need to get this into patients as soon as possible. So we've got that protocol ready to go. We've had discussions with the agency about how to move forward. And once we get that IND done and we're heading to the clinic, we will share that with you because I think it's important that patients get to hear that there's this opportunity coming that will replace hopefully all of these anti epileptics and opiates are used in this dreadful condition. Operator01:05:52And our next question comes from Gena Wang from Barclays. Your line is now open. Speaker 1101:05:59Hi, good afternoon. This is Harshita on for Gena. Thank you so much for the detailed color this afternoon and thank you for taking our questions. Most of them have been answered, but I just had a quick follow-up on SABBI. Given your recent update, I was curious, can you help categorize the importance of improvement in health scores, specifically for the SF-thirty six survey. Speaker 1101:06:23Could you provide color on how the general health and physical components scores are rated? Are they equally rated or is there a higher rate to one of the components? Thank you so much. Speaker 201:06:35Natalie, can you cover that? Speaker 601:06:37Yes. So in our Phase III study, it's primarily initially a safety study, but we're also collecting a lot of data in the patient. And really we are looking as you know, Fabry is a multifaceted disease and we're looking at many different parameters, including kidney function, heart function, pain score, GI score and general health. So at this point, we're collecting all those points and every what is remarkable is that the body of this data all point in the same direction of improvement in the patient. Of course, we're following those patients and the numbers of patient with more and more time since treatment is increasing every month and we're collecting this data. Speaker 601:07:30But the data at World really show that we have maintenance of EGR's far slope, we have improvement in GI score, in FOSM SSI, in SF-thirty six, in pain. So everything is tracking in the right direction. So at this point, there is not one that is more necessarily more important than the other in the Phase onetwo trial. Operator01:08:06And I am showing no further questions. I would now like to turn the call back over to Louise Wilkie for closing remarks. Speaker 101:08:15Thank you once again for joining us today, and thank you for all your questions. As a reminder, you'll be able to access the presentation that we gave today on the Investor Relations section of the Sangamo website after this call. We look forward to keeping you updated on our future developments. Thank you. Operator01:08:30This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.Read morePowered by Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallSangamo Therapeutics Q4 202300:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2x Earnings DocumentsSlide DeckPress Release(8-K)Annual report(10-K) Sangamo Therapeutics Earnings HeadlinesAnalysts Set Sangamo Therapeutics, Inc. (NASDAQ:SGMO) PT at $5.17April 13, 2025 | americanbankingnews.comEquities Analysts Offer Predictions for SGMO Q1 EarningsApril 12, 2025 | americanbankingnews.comMusk’s AI Masterplan – Our #1 AI Stock to Buy NowDid Elon Musk just set the stage for the next AI stock explosion? One 30-year Wall Street veteran thinks so. Musk has been quietly creating one of the most ambitious AI ventures in history.April 18, 2025 | Behind the Markets (Ad)HC Wainwright Issues Pessimistic Forecast for SGMO EarningsApril 11, 2025 | americanbankingnews.comSangamo up 53% to 95c after announcing license pact with Eli LillyApril 4, 2025 | markets.businessinsider.comSangamo announces capsid license agreement with Eli LillyApril 3, 2025 | markets.businessinsider.comSee More Sangamo Therapeutics Headlines Get Earnings Announcements in your inboxWant to stay updated on the latest earnings announcements and upcoming reports for companies like Sangamo Therapeutics? Sign up for Earnings360's daily newsletter to receive timely earnings updates on Sangamo Therapeutics and other key companies, straight to your email. Email Address About Sangamo TherapeuticsSangamo Therapeutics (NASDAQ:SGMO), a clinical-stage genomic medicine company, focuses on translating science into medicines that transform the lives of patients and families afflicted with serious diseases in the United States. The company's clinical-stage product candidates are ST-920, a gene therapy product candidate, which is in Phase 1/2 clinical study for the treatment of Fabry disease; TX200, a chimeric antigen receptor engineered regulatory T cell (CAR-Treg) therapy product candidate that is in Phase 1/2 clinical study for the prevention of immune-mediated rejection in HLA-A2 mismatched kidney transplantation; SB-525, a gene therapy product candidate, which is in Phase 3 clinical trial for the treatment of moderately severe to severe hemophilia A; BIVV003, a zinc finger nuclease gene-edited cell therapy product candidate that is in Phase 1/2 PRECIZN-1 clinical study for the treatment of sickle cell disease. Its preclinical development products focus on CAR-Treg cell therapies for autoimmune disorders and genome engineering for neurological diseases. Sangamo Therapeutics, Inc. has collaborative and strategic partnerships with Biogen MA, Inc.; Kite Pharma, Inc.; Pfizer Inc.; Sanofi S.A.; Novartis Institutes for BioMedical Research, Inc.; Shire International GmbH; Dow AgroSciences LLC; Sigma-Aldrich Corporation; Genentech, Inc.; Open Monoclonal Technology, Inc.; and California Institute for Regenerative Medicine. The company was formerly known as Sangamo BioSciences, Inc. and changed its name to Sangamo Therapeutics, Inc. in January 2017. Sangamo Therapeutics, Inc. was incorporated in 1995 and is headquartered in Richmond, California.View Sangamo Therapeutics ProfileRead more More Earnings Resources from MarketBeat Earnings Tools Today's Earnings Tomorrow's Earnings Next Week's Earnings Upcoming Earnings Calls Earnings Newsletter Earnings Call Transcripts Earnings Beats & Misses Corporate Guidance Earnings Screener Earnings By Country U.S. Earnings Reports Canadian Earnings Reports U.K. Earnings Reports Latest Articles Archer Aviation Unveils NYC Network Ahead of Key Earnings Report3 Reasons to Like the Look of Amazon Ahead of EarningsTesla Stock Eyes Breakout With Earnings on DeckJohnson & Johnson Earnings Were More Good Than Bad—Time to Buy? Why Analysts Boosted United Airlines Stock Ahead of EarningsLamb Weston Stock Rises, Earnings Provide Calm Amidst ChaosIntuitive Machines Gains After Earnings Beat, NASA Missions Ahead Upcoming Earnings Tesla (4/22/2025)Intuitive Surgical (4/22/2025)Verizon Communications (4/22/2025)Canadian National Railway (4/22/2025)Novartis (4/22/2025)RTX (4/22/2025)3M (4/22/2025)Capital One Financial (4/22/2025)General Electric (4/22/2025)Danaher (4/22/2025) Get 30 Days of MarketBeat All Access for Free Sign up for MarketBeat All Access to gain access to MarketBeat's full suite of research tools. Start Your 30-Day Trial MarketBeat All Access Features Best-in-Class Portfolio Monitoring Get personalized stock ideas. Compare portfolio to indices. Check stock news, ratings, SEC filings, and more. Stock Ideas and Recommendations See daily stock ideas from top analysts. Receive short-term trading ideas from MarketBeat. Identify trending stocks on social media. Advanced Stock Screeners and Research Tools Use our seven stock screeners to find suitable stocks. Stay informed with MarketBeat's real-time news. Export data to Excel for personal analysis. Sign in to your free account to enjoy these benefits In-depth profiles and analysis for 20,000 public companies. Real-time analyst ratings, insider transactions, earnings data, and more. Our daily ratings and market update email newsletter. Sign in to your free account to enjoy all that MarketBeat has to offer. Sign In Create Account Your Email Address: Email Address Required Your Password: Password Required Log In or Sign in with Facebook Sign in with Google Forgot your password? Your Email Address: Please enter your email address. Please enter a valid email address Choose a Password: Please enter your password. Your password must be at least 8 characters long and contain at least 1 number, 1 letter, and 1 special character. Create My Account (Free) or Sign in with Facebook Sign in with Google By creating a free account, you agree to our terms of service. This site is protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google Privacy Policy and Terms of Service apply.
There are 12 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good day and thank you for standing by and welcome to Sangamo Fourth Quarter 2023 Teleconference. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. After the speakers' presentation, there will be a question and answer Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I'd now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Louise Wilke, Vice President of Investor Relations, Corporate Communications. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:40Good afternoon. Thank you for joining us on the call today, where we'll be not only sharing our progress across the business, but also sharing exciting new data that we believe reinforce our decision to become a neurology focused genomic medicine company. Slides from today's presentation, which are being screenshared through the live webcast link, can be found on our website, sangamo.com, under the Investors and Media sections of the Events and Presentations page. This call includes forward looking statements regarding Sangamo's current expectations. These statements include, but are not limited to, statements relating to the therapeutic and commercial potential of our product candidates and engineered capsids the anticipated plans and time lines of Sangamo and our collaborators for regulatory submissions, initiating and conducting clinical trials, screening and dosing patients and presenting clinical data advancements of our product candidates anticipated submissions, feedback from and interactions with the regulatory agencies advancement of preclinical programs to the clinic our strategic reprioritization and reallocation of resources and the anticipated benefits thereof, plans to partner certain of our programs, the sufficiency of our resources, cash runway and plans to seek additional capital and the timing of related updates our initial financial guidance for 2024 and estimates of 2024 operating expenses, upcoming catalysts and milestones and other statements that are not historical facts. Speaker 100:02:01Actual results may differ materially from what we discuss today. These statements are subject to certain risks and uncertainties that are discussed in our filings with the SEC, specifically in our annual report on Form 10 ks for the fiscal year ended December 31, 2023, filed with the SEC. The forward looking statements dated today are made as of this date, and we undertake no duty to update such information except as required by law. On this call, we discuss our non GAAP operating expenses. Reconciliation of this measure to our GAAP operating expenses can be found in our press release, which is available on our website. Speaker 100:02:34Please note that all forward looking statements about our future plans and expectations, including our financial guidance, are subject to our ability to secure adequate additional funding. On today's call, I'm joined by Sandy MacRae, Chief Executive Officer Patricia Durababu, Chief Financial Officer Amy Pula, Head of Research Greg Davis, Head of Technology and Natalie Dubar Stringfellow, Chief Development Officer. Now I'll turn the call over to our CEO, Sandy Macrae. Speaker 200:03:01Thank you, Louise, and good afternoon to everyone joining the call. Today, we are pleased to discuss Sangamo's recent pipeline advancements that solidify our sharpened strategic focus in neurology and help contextualize why we made this important decision to dedicate ourselves to addressing neurological disorders. On this call, we will explore our most recent announcement highlighting the remarkable preclinical data from our new intravenously administered capsid that demonstrated an ability to cross the blood brain barrier and how our technology could potentially unlock value across our next generation neurology programs. We will then outline how we plan to progress our neurology assets into the clinic. The advancement of neurological medicines has long been limited by the inability to achieve widespread central nervous system delivery, particularly across the blood brain barrier. Speaker 200:03:57Due to this obstacle, many devastating conditions affecting millions of patients go untreated. With conviction in our science and the promise that it holds, we announced in the Q3 of 2023 having seen initial results from the capsid that we would prioritize our resources to focus on our neurology pipeline. We implement these changes because we believe that Sangamo holds great potential to unlock new treatments for patients with neurological diseases by pairing our highly potent epigenetic regulators with an additional key requisite for success in the neurological space, a capsid capable of crossing the blood brain barrier to successfully deliver the drug where it needs to go. Today's announcement that we have engineered such capsid, which demonstrated industry leading blood brain barrier penetration and brain transduction in non human primates. This validates our conviction in such an important area potentially taking us one step closer to helping patients who are suffering from devastating conditions. Speaker 200:05:07Sangamo is proud to be developing both epigenetic regulation cargo and advanced capsid delivery capabilities that could finally lead to new treatments for many neurological conditions. This differentiated approach underpins our wholly owned neurology pipeline. Our purpose is clear as we strive to unlock value as a strategic highly focused company and an industry partner determined to help patients in need. As preclinical data from our new STACK BBB delivery capsid will demonstrate in this presentation, our dual epigenetic regulation capsid delivery capability showed the ability to cross the blood brain barrier, which we believe is critically important developing therapies to potentially treat prion disease, tauopathies and other neurological conditions. These data further support further advancement of our prion and tau programs, which are on track for regular submissions to enter the clinic by the end of 20 25. Speaker 200:06:05Meanwhile, we continue to advance our lead candidate in chronic neuropathic pain, NAF1.7, which uses an intrathecally administered capsid towards an investigational new drug submission with the U. S. Food and Drug Administration expected in the Q4 of this year. It is also important to recognize the significance of our recent Fabry disease advancements. We recently presented compelling Phase III data at the 20th Annual World Symposium showing enormous promise across many important biomarkers and measures of efficacy. Speaker 200:06:43Importantly, we also recently announced alignment with the agency on a remarkable abbreviated clinical pathway to potential approval. The FDA advised that a single study with up to 25 patients in combination with confirmatory evidence is an acceptable pathway to BLA submission for isorogagenecevaparvavec. This is a significant development as conducting a single study of this nature would enable a potentially abbreviated and most cost effective pathway to potential approval than was ever originally anticipated. In addition, the European Medicines Agency granted priority medicine eligibility for the program, which could potentially further accelerate activities in Europe. We are thrilled with this progress and are in active discussions to partner this program, which if successful, we anticipate could form key source of non dilutive funding. Speaker 200:07:44I continue to strongly believe that our Fabry disease program could be transformative for patients and the compelling clinical data presented at world coupled with these highly encouraging regulatory updates underpin that belief. As the only biopharmaceutical company known to be internally dealt in both the innovative genome targeting cargo and the required delivery capsids, we believe that Sangamo is well positioned to potentially usher in the future of neurology genomic medicines. Amy will share this in detail, but I first wanted to show you what got us so excited. Our zinc finger epigenetic regulators have demonstrated potency and selectivity across a variety of different indications. This is clearly seen in the left panels showing how expression of the zinc finger repressors in vivo in non human primates, which are shown in green on the left, demonstrated nearly complete elimination of RNA expression neurons from the targeted gene shown in white, in this case tau. Speaker 200:08:53The panel to the right gives you a first glimpse of our new intravenously administered AAV capsid variant that we're calling STACK BBB, where STACK stands for Sangamo Therapeutics AAV capsid. A picture can tell a 1,000 words and we were excited to see the dark purple stain in the brain image to the on the right of the slide, which shows that stacked BBB mediated efficient blood brain barrier crossing and widespread cargo delivery throughout the brain of non human privates in important new preclinical studies. We're extremely encouraged that STACK BBB, which we engineered through our sifter capsid engineering platform significantly outperformed other known published capsids evaluated in our study. It achieved widespread brain delivery and transgene expression as well as de targeting of the liver and other peripheral tissues and was generally well tolerated. We look forward to telling you more about these remarkable findings today. Speaker 200:09:57First, though, I want to spend a moment highlighting our choicefulness in our lead neurology programs for NaV1.7 and prion disease. We are particularly pursuing these targets because one, they're validated by human genetics 2, they have a well defined patient population 3, they have a delivery we believe to be achievable using AAV capsids and 4, could lead to quantifiable quicker patient outcomes. Importantly, they represent a significant medical need and commercial opportunity. NaV1.7 addresses a significant unmet need with over 43,000 patients in the U. S. Speaker 200:10:39Alone who face intractable pain resulting from small fiber neuropathy. These people live with constant debilitating pain is unimaginable to the most of us. In fact, these conditions have a higher suicide rate than in the broader population. With promising preclinical data for our NAV1.7 program, we believe we have a clear route to clinical proof of concept. We expect an IND submission in Q4 of this year and hope to be in the clinic next year with initial clinical data anticipated by the end of 2025. Speaker 200:11:16Importantly, NAF1.7 uses a well known intrathecally administered capsid for delivery. Cryon disease is a truly devastating condition with more than 1500 patients diagnosed per year across U. S. And Europe. It is a disease that rapidly progresses and is always fatal, usually within 12 months to 15 months of symptom onset and there are no currently effective treatment options available. Speaker 200:11:46However, we are hopeful we can advance treatment of this disease as the repression of Prion in our preclinical models significantly extended survival in mice. They lived a normal mouse lifetime. We anticipate filing a clinical trial authorization submission in the UK because thanks to Mad Cow disease, they have an excellent infrastructure for identifying and caring for prion patients. Our CTA enabling studies are already underway and we expect to submit the CTA in the Q4 of 2025. While we intend to progress our core programs towards regular submissions, we believe that the exciting STACK BBB data we will discuss today also potentially unlocks a number of potential additional programs that were paused pending the identification of a suitable blood brain barrier penetrant capsid. Speaker 200:12:44They were waiting for STACK BBB. The first of these is the repression of the gene that produces tau, MAPT to address tauopathies such as Alzheimer's disease. With the identification of STAT BBB, we intend to resume the development of tau program with an IND submission expected as early as Q4 of 2025. In addition, STACK BBB could also potentially unlock multiple other neurology, epigenetic regulation programs that were paused by Sangamo pending the identification of such capsid diseases such as Parkinson's disease, mytronic Trisavi Type 1. Sangamo is exploring avenues to resume development of these programs with new potential collaborators. Speaker 200:13:34With our reinvigorated neurology focus and our momentum already underway in 2024, we anticipate multiple potential near term milestones for now and the end of 2025. We also anticipate milestones for our later stage non urology programs that could provide additional important non dilutive funding. As we plan to partner our Fabry disease program, we expect to complete dosing in the Phase III STAR study in the first half of this year. For our partnered HIMI program, Pfizer expects to present Phase 3 results in the middle of this year, just a few months away and anticipates potential regulatory submissions in the U. S. Speaker 200:14:18And Europe in early 2025, assuming that the pivotal readout is supportive. We are then eligible to earn up to $220,000,000 in milestone payments and up to 14% to 20% royalties on potential sales from this program. Before we show you the detailed data, it's important to take a moment to talk about our current financial position. Over the course of 2023, we proactively made difficult decisions to preserve our most valuable assets. We declared our intention to become a focused neurology genomic medicine company, carefully aligned our resources investments to that vision and advanced multiple reductions in force to significant limit our spend. Speaker 200:15:05As a result, we've reduced our operating expenses by approximately 50% year over year. Whilst difficult, these were the right decisions to make as I'm sure you'll see in great detail very shortly. 3 with approximately $81,000,000 in available cash, cash equivalents and marketable securities. We believe that these resources in combination with potential future cost reductions will be sufficient to fund our planned operations into the Q3 of 2024 without factoring in any additional capital raises. Given our streamlined structure, we expect our 2024 non GAAP operating expenses to be in the range of $125,000,000 to $145,000,000 as we complete our strategic transformation, fulfill our responsibilities and we anticipate our operating expenses to further decrease to under $105,000,000 dollars in 2025 as we transition our legacy clinical programs. Speaker 200:16:09In the meantime, we continue to actively pursue a number of different opportunities to raise additional capital. I'll now turn it over to Amy to discuss our latest capsidata along with other updates from our pipeline. Amy? Speaker 300:16:24Thank you, Sandy, and hello to everyone joining today's call. We know that widespread CNS delivery is challenging with conventional AAVs, which is why we have developed our sister platform, which is designed to enable the selection of neurotropic AAV capsid variants. We do this by using a directed evolution process to create, refine and select the best possible capsid from a library of millions of unique capsids. When we set out to develop an industry leading novel IV administered capsid, we outlined the key characteristics needed for success, one that could solve the challenges that many drug developers have historically faced. We knew that this capsid needed to have broad brain coverage in all the key areas integral to disease pathology. Speaker 300:17:06Enhanced enrichment in the brain compared to other capsid as well as robust neuronal transduction. We also needed it to express the zinc finger therapeutic cargo and repress the target gene, all while being easily manufacturable at scale. Although this may seem like a lot of boxes to check, we believe each of these qualities is essential for a truly effective capsid that could be deployed into humans. That is why we are so pleased with the preclinical data from our recent non human primate studies that demonstrate how well placed STACK BBB is to potentially address these criteria. In these preclinical studies, we are encouraged to see that STACK BBB demonstrated robust penetration of the blood brain barrier and widespread gene expression throughout the brain, primarily targeting neurons regardless of the promoter and with results that were consistent across individual animals and groups. Speaker 300:17:57We saw extensive expression of zinc finger cargo throughout the brain, including key disease relevant regions, a clear dose response curve for zinc finger expression and a corresponding repression of the disease target. Vector genomes were enriched in the central nervous system while detargeted from the dorsal root ganglia and liver. And as Sandy mentioned, crucially, we believe the stacked DBb is also manufacturable at scale. So how did we assess this performance? In our latest experiments, we started with 100,000,000 capsid capsid variants, which engineered with a specific peptide insertion and carefully barcoded to enable tracking. Speaker 300:18:33We then evaluated these capsid variants through progressive rounds of screening, enriching for the best performers through 3 rounds of selection until we identified STACK BBB as the standout high performer. The visualization shown here is the final round of the sifter screening process, where 12 60 novel capsids are all evaluated simultaneously and cynomolgous macaques. On this graph, the y axis shows the relative level of enrichment of the capsid throughout the brain with 0 representing capsids that exhibited no comparative enrichment in the brain. What we're looking for here is a high degree of neuronal RNA expression indicating successful BBB crossing and delivery to neurons. We see on the x axis the overall coefficient of variation or in other words how consistent the fold change enrichment is among the samples that were tested. Speaker 300:19:24We are looking for a capsid that is both highly enriched in the brain and that we are able to reliably detect across multiple tissues, showing that the results are reproducible and not a one off chance outcome. The highest performing capsids will be found in the top left corner. So we are very encouraged to see the STACK BBB capsid coming out on top, outperforming all the others in the library on this assessment. The library assessment also included known published neurotrophic capsid variants were evaluated head to head in addition to our own. We are very pleased that STACK BBB was the top performing capsid in this benchmarking study. Speaker 300:19:58Moreover, we also saw this performance was consistent across all three animals and multiple levels of the brain with STACK BBB illustrated here in green consistently outperforming the next best published capsid here shown in orange. In fact, we saw a 700 fold better enrichment in the brain for STACK BBB compared to the benchmark capsid AAV9 shown in blue on this graph, highlighting the superior neuronal expression needed by STACK BBB. On this next graphic, you can see how the superior performance continues to be demonstrated difficult to reach with intrathecal administrations of antisense oligonucleotides also called ASOs or more traditional capsids. The liver can act as a primary sync for intravenously administered capsids. However, we saw there was significant detargeting of STACK BBB in the liver with 100 fold lower expression compared to the benchmark AAV capsid when compared against historical Sangamo studies at the same dose. Speaker 300:21:02Low peripheral exposure in the liver is desired. We then conducted follow on studies taking our lead capsid STACK BBB and testing its individual performance. On the left of the slide, we see an image of a non human primate brain. Is from an animal that was treated with a SacBB capsid administered intravenously at a dose of 2e13 vector genomes per kilogram and packaged with both a nuclear localized green fluorescent protein or GFP as well as a zinc finger repressor targeting the prion gene. We then used antibody labeling to stain for the GFP cargo is illustrated with the deep purple or almost black coloring you see on the left side. Speaker 300:21:40We are very pleased to see both a widespread and uniform expression of GFP mediated by stack BBB throughout all the gray matter, which is where the cell bodies reside in the brain. Conversely, you see no GFP expression in the white matter as we would anticipate because it primarily consists of myelinated axons. On the right is a control animal that wasn't treated with AAV, but the tissue was processed in the same way to visualize GFP. And as you can see, there is no signal. If you dive deeper into some of the cortical regions, you can see there are 2 types of staining. Speaker 300:22:12You see the darker purple staining, which is the GFP cargo being expressed by the Stack BBB. And then the lighter blue is a nistle stain that labels all the cell nuclei in the brain. It's important to note that there are many different cell types in the brain with neurons making up roughly 19% to 40% of all cells dependent on the brain region. Here we clearly see that STACK BBB is neurotropic with pronounced staining of the cell nuclei and in some places even an overflow of GFP protein out into the cell body of the neuron. This This transcription was consistent across the cortical regions shown, which are important to many different disease pathologies and appears largely localized to neurons. Speaker 300:22:52This transduction was consistent across 12 other brain regions we analyzed with clear enrichment of SacBB observed in the neurons in each of these areas. Because of the observed neurotrophic nature of SacBB, the level of enrichment seems to align with the number of corresponding neurons found in each brain region. The lateral geniculate nucleus, for example, is tightly packed with neurons and we saw striking STACK BVB enrichment here. Extensive transduction is crucial because each area is linked to a whole range of diseases for which treatments are desperately needed. Based on this compelling data, we believe that diseases such as Huntington's disease, Parkinson's disease, ALS or Friedreich's ataxia could all be potentially unlocked by STACK BBB and our Sengsinger cargo. Speaker 300:23:34If we dive a little deeper into some of these brain regions, for example, the dentate nucleus, the steep cerebellar region is particularly hard to reach with CSF routes of administration. However, using an intravenous approach where we're leveraging the intimate relationship between the brain vasculature and neurons, we are able to transduce almost all the neurons in this region. As you see here, 30 out of 31 neurons visible in this field were transduced. We were thrilled to see this robust level of brain transduction. Moreover, this consistent transduction was reproducible across animals. Speaker 300:24:07Here we show the dentate nucleus of 3 separate animals treated with STACK BPP, all of which exhibited similar levels of GFP expression. Finally, we believe STACK BBB is manufacturable at scale. Capsid's manufacturability is critical to creating a successful commercial drug product for patients. We expect to leverage our long track record of AAV production and process development to manufacture spec BBB at scale. Our tech ops team has manufactured the capsid at 50 liters and are currently scaling up to 500 liters. Speaker 300:24:37We have been able to produce the capsid using both the HEK293 and SF9 platforms. We believe STACK BBB is manufacturable at commercial scale using standard cell culture and purification processes, is soluble using known excipients and can be characterized using available analytics, which we consider to be crucial factors in the potential long term success as we seek to scale up to the levels needed for clinical trials for potential commercialization. I'll now turn it back to Sandy to discuss our zinc finger platform. Sandy? Speaker 200:25:06Thanks Amy. As Amy emphasized, our latest STACK PBB data demonstrate that we've engineered a capsid that exhibited brain wide delivery in non human primates. However, this is only one half of the effect of neurology genomic medicine. I will now tell you that other half are potent zinc finger cargo, which can be combined with our delivery capsids to potentially create truly innovative genomic medicines. Our neurology pipeline leverages Sangamo's proprietary Zinc Finger gene targeting technology, a high precision genomic engineering platform. Speaker 200:25:43Think of Sync Fingers as the landing mechanism, which can identify the exact zip code within the genome to attach and to regulate. This is what they do in the bodies and brains of all of us. Zinc fingers are highly versatile, extremely customizable and very compact, meaning they can be easily packaged into viral vectors. They're roughly 1 eighth the size of other editing modalities. So we believe we can package up to 3 repressors if necessary into 1 AAV capsid and repress several genes at any one time if we wanted to. Speaker 200:26:19They're also derived from human proteins, which potentially avoids issues with immunogenicity that may arise with bacterial proteins. Think of our Zinc Finger platform as a Swiss Army knife, which is flexible and offers different tools based on your needs. Broadly, zinc fingers recognize an 18 base pair piece of DNA to induce a variety of actions such as causing a double stranded break via nuclease properties, activation, repression, base editing, epigenetic modification and site specific integration. Our base editing capabilities were highlighted last month in Nature Communications showing that compact zinc finger architecture utilizes toxin derived cytin deaminases for highly efficient base editing in human cells. We are pleased to read in nature communications that other groups believe zinc fingers are the most capable epigenetic regulation tool and are delighted with our partnership with Chroma Medicine who have licensed our zinc fingers exactly for this purpose. Speaker 200:27:27We are currently focusing on leveraging our epigenetic regulation capabilities in neurology and the data that follows on Praion, tau and NAV1.7 will focus on that technology specifically. So Amy, can you now tell us a little more about how the zinc fingers are leveraged in our Prion and tau programs? Speaker 300:27:46Thanks, Sandy. Turning now to prion disease, which affects approximately 600 patients a year in the U. S. And Canada and around 900 in Europe. Prion disease is an awful disease, typically fatal in 12 to 15 months. Speaker 300:27:59There are no approved disease modifying therapies that currently exist. Prion is an excellent fit for zinc finger repression. We know that prion knockout animals do not get the disease prion reduction can delay or prevent disease and neuronal prion production, a protein reduction also prevents disease. We therefore believe that the repression of prion expression may slow or halt disease progression and neurodegeneration. We knew that we wanted to achieve widespread delivery to the brain for prion disease, given that misfolded prion protein spreads throughout the brain as the disease progresses. Speaker 300:28:33As mentioned earlier, we therefore packaged our prion targeted zinc finger repressor into the newly identified SacBB capsid and administered it intravenously to 3 separate non human primates. In order to assess which regions of the Brain SacBB delivers to, we collected 220 punches from each animal and conducted RT qPCR analyses to measure how much prion targeted zinc finger was expressed. Each dot on these brain images illustrates the location of 1 of the punches we collected and each row represents 1 of the 3 animals that was dosed. The color represents the level of the prion targeted zinc finger expression that was measured. As you can see from the key in the top right, ZFR expression levels are indicated by the intensity of green for each one of the punches. Speaker 300:29:19These results confirmed the GFP protein expression data and support that STACK BBB mediated consistent brain wide expression of prion targeted zinc finger repressor in all three animals. We next wanted to quantify if expression correlated with an associated reduction in preon mRNA in these brain punches. We were happy to see a reduction of preon expression in all 35 brain regions that we analyzed. As a reminder, these brain punches do not solely consist of neurons, but additional brain cell types as well, cells such as oligodendrocytes, astrocytes and microglia. Because prion is expressed in multiple brain cell types, when we are seeing total prion reduction here at the bulk brain level of 20% to 30%, the percent reduction in individual neurons must be significantly higher. Speaker 300:30:05When looking at the single cell analyses and similar studies in the past, including the tau data I will show you in a moment, we have seen upwards of 80 percent reduction at the individual neuron level. Speaker 400:30:16So how do we think Speaker 300:30:17the level of repression we saw in the green bar graph just now will impact disease progression? Based on this level of bulk repression observed in the mouse model of aggressive prion disease, we concluded that zinc finger repressors can significantly extend survival in prion infected animals. In collaboration with the Broad Institute, we engineered zinc finger repressors to target the mouse prion gene and administered these as a single dose in mice either 60 or 122 days following prion infection. Without any intervention, you can see that clearly the untreated mice consistently die around 160 days post infection. However, mice treated with a single administration of a prion zinc finger repressor showed notable extended survival compared to those control animals living to beyond 400 or 500 days after infection, which is within the normal lifespan of a mouse. Speaker 300:31:06This is an incredible alteration in disease progression. In a separate published study, performance of ASOS also illustrated on this graphic was evaluated in the same mouse model. These data show that multiple treatments were required starting from approximately 70 days post infection as shown in graph 2 to be able to induce an extension in lifespan. And when ASOS were administered at a later time point post infection as shown in graph 4 when the disease was further progressed, there was only minimal extension in lifespan. Conversely, even when administered 122 days post infection shown in graph 3, which is a timeline more aligned to what we believe we will see in the clinic, a single dose of the zinc finger repressor was still able to profoundly delay disease progression and extend survival in mice. Speaker 300:31:53These data reflect the 2e13 VG per kilogram dose level, which is considered a mid dose of AAV, showing that we have the potential to dose higher should we decide that that's appropriate. The pream program is progressing with our clinical lead zinc finger repressor that showed greater than 95% pream reduction per cell with no detectable off targets and meaningful potency both in vitro and in vivo. We expect to begin clinical enabling toxicology studies in the second half of this year and anticipate submitting a clinical trial application in the U. K. For PRION in the Q4 of 2025. Speaker 300:32:28Moving now to tau, a well known target for the treatment of neurodegenerative diseases called tauopathies. Recent data from Biogen's ASO study shows stabilization of cognitive function with regular injections of ASOs addressing tau, which seems to cement tau's implication in Alzheimer's disease. In addition, there are also a host of tauopathy disorders that span more than 12 distinct indications, including progressive supranuclear palsy and frontotemporal dementia and accounts for a very large patient population with a high unmet medical need that we could potentially address with our zinc finger approach. Using a combination of STACK BBB delivery capabilities and a tau zinc finger repressor, we see a potential ability to halt disease progression with a one time IV administration for various tauopathy indications given the capsids demonstrated ability to reach all the brain regions with a high specificity in non human primates. Here we packaged our clinical lead tau zinc finger repressor, which shows fantastic repression of tau, exceptionally specific expression and no detectable off targets in vitro into our stacked BBB capsid and tested it at 3 different intravenously administered doses, 5e12, 2e13, and 1e14 vector genomes per kilo. Speaker 300:33:43Similar to the slide we saw before on Preon, here we are looking for widespread expression of the zinc finger repressor throughout the brain. Here we were also assessing the 3 dose levels and we're very pleased to see dose dependent expression with the intensity of green increasing as the dose increased, indicating a higher level of zinc finger expression. Importantly and similarly to the PRION study, we are not only looking at the level of zinc finger expression, but also the corresponding levels of tau repression. Here we show these data for the deep brain thalamic region, including the lateral geniculate nucleus. Like prion, tau is a gene that is expressed not only in neurons but also in astrocytes and oligodendrocytes. Speaker 300:34:23We know that tau expression in neurons is the critical driver of disease pathology, which is why we are so focused on repressing it in these cells. In this case, the clinical lead construct uses a synapsin promoter. So we know that we are only targeting zinc finger expression to neurons. We were pleased to see a dose dependent increase in zinc finger expression that correlated with a dose dependent decrease of tau expression. Like in the prion experiments, this is a bulk analysis of whole brain punches, which consists of many cell types, not just neurons. Speaker 300:34:52So to be able to achieve this level of tau repression at the bulk level, we must be achieving significantly higher repression at the single cell level in neurons. Here you'll see that we achieved an almost 50% reduction in tau at the bulk level and at the top dose in the lateral geniculate nucleus, which is likely correlated to the higher proportion of neurons we see in this region, as illustrated by the dark staining in the image above from the same brain region in the GFP arm of the study. Let's take a moment to look more closely at the PoNS, part of the brainstem and a key brain region in the tauopathy called progressive supranuclear palsy. On the left is the bulk tissue punch analysis for this region. And like what I showed you on the previous slide, we saw a correlation between increased zinc finger expression and decreased tau expression in a dose dependent manner. Speaker 300:35:38Because understanding the activity of the zinc finger at the single cell level is so important, in addition to the bulk brain tissue analysis, we also utilized a multiplexed RNA scope and immunohistochemistry approach to visualize ZFR expression and tau repression in neurons. This data is beautiful and shows a high level of detail that is only recently possible, allowing us to understand what's going on at the single cell level. On the top is a PoNS image from a control animal and the bottom is from an animal treated with the top dose of STACK BBB encoding the tau clinical beads in finger repressor. In purple are the neurons, which in the control animals robustly expressed tau mRNA shown in white. Conversely, in the bottom row of images, you can clearly see that where the zinc finger was expressed in green, we saw a striking corresponding reduction of tau. Speaker 300:36:28We calculate that approximately 80% of the neurons expressing fingers in this region, which resulted in almost complete repression of tau in those cells. Here we show more of this beautiful single cell data demonstrating the power of both STACK BBB and our tau zinc finger repressor working together, in this instance in the motor cortex. On the top row, you see the vehicle control where tau mRNA was clearly expressed across the brain region, in particular within neurons in purple and glia in orange. Here, no zinc finger repressor was detected and the tau mRNA levels remain consistent between the different images. Conversely, at the bottom, we see a potent repression of tau mRNA across the image on the left. Speaker 300:37:09Zooming into this a little more in the middle image and as indicated in green, we detected the zinc finger repressor particularly in neurons. And importantly, where we saw the zinc finger repressor expression, we saw an almost complete elimination of tau mRNA most visible in the bottom right panel. This is truly encouraging data that gives us great hope for the promise of a single administration of STACK PBB and our tau zinc finger repressor. For our tau program, we have identified the clinical lead zinc finger and IND enabling activities are well advanced, making this program well suited to move into the clinic either ourselves or with a potential partner. Toxicology studies could be initiated as early as the Q2 of this year with a potential IND NAV1.7, and how we're using this program as a way to balance the portfolio through a diversified delivery approach. Speaker 300:38:07Our NAV1.7 program does not leverage secbbb, but instead uses a known AAV delivery capsid that is already in the clinic. Our aim here was to develop a medicine capable of reaching the dorsal root ganglia as nav1.7 is a voltage gated sodium channel expressed there. And mutations in this channel play a critical role in pain perception. By potently reducing NAV-1.7 in the DRG, we believe we can prevent the transmission of nociceptive pain signals in order to treat chronic neuropathic pain and host of other indications. There is an urgent need for new therapies in this space and a potentially very large patient population to address. Speaker 300:38:44So we are very motivated to be moving forward with our NAV1.7 program and plan to initially focus on patients with small fiber neuropathy. As you see here, preclinical data from our clinical lead zinc finger repressor targeting SCN9A, the gene that encodes NAV1.7, demonstrated a meaningful repression in vitro with exquisite levels of specificity as we only saw repression of NAV1.7 without impacting any other sodium channels. It's difficult to use small molecules to treat these channels because NAV channels share a lot of structural similarities at the protein level. However, at the DNA level, they are distinct, which makes them well suited to the zinc finger technology. Taking this into animal models on the left, you see a study targeting neurons in the DRG to groups of cells outside the spinal column in the blood brain barrier. Speaker 300:39:32Using intrathecal injection of the zinc finger repressor in mice, we observed significant expression, which you see in red. This then resulted in an almost complete elimination of the SCN9A expression shown by the absence of white, which indicated a potent knockdown of the NAV1.7 gene at the mRNA level. If you look at the middle pane, you can understand what this looks like in a mouse model. We use the gold standard mouse model of neuropathic pain called the spared nerve injury model and performed a single injection of the zinc finger repressor intrathecally after the nerves were cut to induce pain. The single administration of our Zynqinga repressor resulted in a full reversal of pain perception in these animals as indicated by the orange and dark red bars in the bottom middle pane, which are very similar to the results of those animals that have never received the surgery as indicated in blue, which is very impressive. Speaker 300:40:23Finally, you see the non human primate study on the far right where we wanted to show that we can target the DRG and achieve potent repression of SCN9A. In the study, we administered 3 different doses of zinc fingers intrathecally and we saw dose dependent and potent repression of NAV1.7. Importantly, there's a lot of research emphasis on peer reviewed publications about identifying any potential DRG toxicity and we did not find anything in these studies that would be indicative of such toxicity, which is crucial as we seek to advance this program into the clinic. We are very encouraged by the NAV-1.7 program and we look forward to completing these final toxicology studies. We to submit an IND for this program in the Q4 of this year. Speaker 300:41:05I will now hand back to Sandy to wrap this up before we open for Q and A. Speaker 200:41:09Thank you, Amy. Really appreciate everyone joining us today as we look forward to answering your questions. And what we've outlined, we strongly believe in the power of our science to address devastating neurological conditions. We're advancing epigenetic regulation cargo and novel AAV capsid for a high value gateway neurological diseases like chronic neuropathic pain and prion disease. Today, we have shown we have a capsid that demonstrated ability to penetrate the blood brain barrier and exhibited industry leading CNS tropism in non human primates. Speaker 200:41:45The development of SACPPB potentially unlocks multiple neurology programs that could be advanced ourselves or with partners as a potential source of non dilutive funding. And we have the prion disease program, which we believe could quickly validate STACK BBB in proteins in humans. In addition, our Fabry disease program has continued to generate compelling Phase III data and is ready for a potential registration study with an abbreviated clinical pathway aligned with the FDA and multiple collaboration discussions in progress. We have transformed Sangamo into a focused neurology business with the potential to transform the lives of patients with debilitating neurological conditions. We have also made the necessary but very difficult decisions to focus our company and streamline our OpEx with intention of reducing our burn, but without impairing potential value. Speaker 200:42:42We believe these changes enable us to set forth an attractive opportunity to raise additional funds via additional potential collaborations. Alongside this, we have the Pfizer collaboration in Himi that brings revenue bearing opportunity with $220,000,000 in potential milestones. As you can see, we believe our company is well positioned to change the lives of patients as a neurology genomic medicine company. Operator, please open the lines for questions. Operator00:43:17And thank you. And our first question comes from Patrick Trucchio from H. C. Wainwright. Your line is now open. Speaker 500:43:43Hello, everyone. Hi, team. This is Luis Santos on for Patrick. Congratulations on this, as you said, beautiful and fantastic data. We are interested in knowing a little bit more what data do you still have left for completion of the package for the CTA and the prion disease? Speaker 500:44:05Also on the tau program, did you release which epitope of tau you are targeting? Maybe I'll have a follow-up question. Thank you. Speaker 200:44:18Thank you, Patrick. These are really good questions. It is beautiful data. And for the team that has been working on this for several years, it's a fulfillment of their scientific careers truly. So I'm going to split into 2. Speaker 200:44:32So the section on how do we get Prion into the clinic, we'll go to Natalie, Head of Development. Speaker 600:44:39Hi, everyone. So for the CTA for Prion, now that we have the STACK BBB, we are gearing to do a GLP tox study, which will be required for the IND. In order to do this, we have to manufacture the product to put in the tox study, and we're going to do this this year for filing an IND in the end of 2025. We also need to do a clinical manufacturing lot with the clinical candidate. Speaker 200:45:09You've had great discussions already in the UK with people about the enthusiasm to take this forward? Speaker 600:45:16Absolutely. There is a really good system here where the patient that has prion disease are going to a common center and have we have linked to really the expert in prion disease in the UK and they have also direct communication with the regulatory authority in England. So we think that we're well positioned to really move quickly in the UK. Speaker 300:45:44Thank you, Natalie. And then for types Speaker 600:45:44of Sure. I'm Speaker 200:45:45happy to take that one. I think one of the advantages of the zinc Sure. Speaker 300:45:51I'm happy to take that one. I think one of the advantages of the Zinc Finger platform is that we're targeting tau at the DNA level. We know that there is so much complexity for tau, the different splice variants at the RNA level and then many, many different configurations of tau at the protein level. Because we're targeting upstream of all of that, we believe that we're able to address really all different tauopathies and all of these different possible forms of toxic tau. Speaker 200:46:19Which would be a real competitive and patient advantage? Absolutely. Speaker 500:46:26Just a very quick follow-up. On the dose response, what level of reduction of tau do you expect will be enough to be promising and translational into humans. So what levels of tau reduction will we see will we need to see not just from the beautiful RNAscope images, but at the pathological level, at the physiological level in mice and HP so that we can be more confident in humans? Speaker 300:47:05Yes, that's a great question. It depends on the different brain regions, really the level of repression that we're targeting. But we believe, especially when you look at the outstanding efficacy in the PRION studies that we're in the range that we would be expecting to see some clinical results. What's really important is that at the single cell level, we see an almost complete repression of tau. And this is important because we know that the tauopathies are spreading throughout the brain. Speaker 300:47:33So not only is it important to have that widespread brain delivery like what we're seeing with STACK PBB, but also at a single cell level that we see this really complete repression of tau. Speaker 200:47:43Amy, when you speak to potential partners, what's the level of repression that interest people? Speaker 300:47:50That's a great question. And I think it depends on the indication for some telepathy as we think something between 10% to 30% depending on the brain region would be important. Speaker 700:48:02Thank you. Operator00:48:05And thank you. And our next question comes from Maury Raycroft from Jefferies. Your line is now open. Speaker 800:48:21Hi, thanks for taking my questions and congrats on the update today with the new capsid. I'm wondering with the new capsid, have you looked at relative immunogenicity of it and how that would compare to AAV9 or other published capsids? And based on this, do you see any potential to have a redosing option? Speaker 200:48:43Amy, can you cover that for us, please? And Natalie, maybe you want to say some? Speaker 300:48:51That's a great question. Thank you. These novel engineered capsids are being engineered in order to improve the crossing of the blood brain barrier and brain penetrance. We believe that they have a similar profile compared to other natural capsids with a similar range of neutralizing antibody prevalence. Of course, another frontier of capsid engineering could be to evade that, but that was not what we set out to do in the study. Speaker 300:49:16And we're really excited with the penetrance that we saw in the brain of these animals. Yes. Speaker 600:49:23I think we don't expect to be very different from other AAVs. Of course, patient in the trial will be screened for preexisting antibody to our novel AAV capsid. Speaker 800:49:35Got it. Okay. Makes sense. And for your figure where you compared your capsid to other published capsids, Can you say which capsids these were? What the screening or inclusion criteria was? Speaker 800:49:49And were any excluded, for example, the Voyager Speaker 200:49:55capsid? Thanks, Maury. There are a lot of capsids that people are talking about, which I think reflects the interest in the field and trying to find that magic capsid. We know now from talking to many pharma companies that they have capsid search groups in place because it feels like a next generation neurological disease set of medicines. So we just looked across the literature and identified the mutations that have been made in those capsids and then recreated them in our laboratory, of our capsid on its own, that it's widespread, that it's easily manufacturable, that it hits all the spots that it transduces the zinc fingers and it reduces both tau and prion. Speaker 800:50:56Got it. That's helpful. And last question and then I'll hop back in the queue. Just wondering if you can say anything additional on partnering conversations around these capsid data yet? And if you can provide any more perspective around the terms that you would aim to get for partnering any of your wholly owned CNS programs? Speaker 200:51:19Thanks, Marty. So we've known the ultimate screening round results since the end of last year. And so we've been gradually talking and socializing this with our friends and pharma companies. When we showed the latest data and some of it, the single cell data is only out in the last week or so. The word awesome was used often in this. Speaker 200:51:48So we continue to talk to them because we feel that with both with the capsid itself and the capsid with our cargo, there is no way that Sangamo can advance all of the potential indications with this and that we can only do it through partnership with that kind of pharma ecosystem. Of course, the money is valuable, but it would be wrong for me to start talking about numbers here. And we look forward to finding ways to move this into as many indications as possible. Speaker 800:52:21Got it. Makes sense. Thank you for taking my questions. Operator00:52:32And our next question comes from Nicole Germano from Truist. Your line is now open. Speaker 900:52:39Hi, this is Alex on for Nicole. Congrats on the data Speaker 800:52:42and all the progress. Speaker 900:52:44A couple from us. Can you remind us for your STACK BBB, how does this fit into Alzheimer's given the current focus on the amyloid plaque? And could STACK BBB have any impact on existing plaque? Or do you think that this could be potentially used after approved antibodies? And then I have a follow-up. Speaker 200:53:03So I think we heard your question, so it wasn't quite clear. Amy, can you repeat what you think we're answering and then take it from there? Speaker 300:53:11Sure. I think I may have only caught the first part of your question, which is understanding how targeting tau fits in with the amyloid hypothesis for Alzheimer's disease. Speaker 200:53:21Yes. Can you answer that? Speaker 300:53:22Okay, great. Great. I think that there's been accumulating evidence over the past years, which again, the data that I showed today also from the Biogen trial with the ASOS targeting tau really have shown how important tau is in driving the pathology of the disease. There are patients or let's say people that have a lot of amyloid in their brains, but actually don't have Alzheimer's disease. And it's only when you have this development of tau, the tauopathies that's correlated with the cognitive decline that's associated with the disease. Speaker 300:53:55So we believe like others actually that tau is a critical step in that pathway and then its reduction will be really important for slowing or stopping the progression of the disease. Speaker 200:54:06And particularly when compared to those ASOs, you can give hopefully, we expect you'll be able to give it once and it will have a long time effect. Speaker 300:54:17That's right. Not only would it be single administration, but also be able to target all of the different brain regions that we think are involved in the disease. Speaker 200:54:24Which ASOs don't always do. Speaker 300:54:26That's right. Speaker 200:54:27Can you repeat your second question, please? Speaker 900:54:32Where do you think that in the treatment landscape, where this would play out given the improved antibodies? And do you see this as sort of 4 antibodies afterwards, how do you think the community is doing it? Speaker 200:54:48So perhaps I can take that. And we are at preclinical stage and the data is very encouraging. We need to move it into humans and show its effect. While that's happening, I'm sure that we will in this field, we'll collect a lot of data with other forms of tau antibodies or ASOs and understand the benefit. And gradually, the benefit that we show, I think, will be understood, particularly that it's a one time treatment, which compare that to repeated intrathecal injections, I think it's very appealing. Speaker 200:55:26It's very appealing for the patient, but it's also very appealing for dealing with a confused person. It's also very appealing for hopefully for society to be able to do this easily and in any hospital or clinic in the country. So this is why we're so excited about it. If tau is as important as we're all believing, having a single injection intravenously that crosses the blood brain barrier and completely reduces the production of tau in cells offers an enormous opportunity for what is a devastating disease. Natalie? Speaker 600:56:05Yes. In addition, if you compare this treatment to antibody, as Amy was saying, we're targeting the expression of tau. We're not targeting a specific ectop of a tau protein, which there is many form of tau protein in isomer patient and we don't know exactly which one is the most relevant for each patient. So we're going at the route with the gene epigenetic regulation approach. Speaker 700:56:33Makes sense. Thanks for all the color. Operator00:56:36And thank you. And one moment for our next question. And our next question comes from Luca Eze from RBC. Your line is now open. Speaker 1000:56:54Great. Thanks for taking our questions. This is Lisa on for Luca. Well, congrats on all the progress. I have a few questions on the SIBU program. Speaker 1000:57:05Just wondering if you can add any color on how your conversations with potential partners has changed since you have reached alignment with the FDA on the registrational path forward. And on the FABIR pivotal study, can you share some more additional color on what the primary endpoint will be? Is it fair to assume the FDA will want to see reduction in GL3 inclusions by kidney biopsy similar to what we've seen with Fabryzine? Any color here would be helpful. Thanks so much. Speaker 200:57:40Natalie, you've had been having a lot of these discussions recently. Speaker 600:57:43Yes. So we're absolutely thrilled with our interaction with the FDA and to have aligned in a single well controlled study with confirmatory evidence for the basis of a BLA submission and approval. At this point, we're not commenting on the endpoint for this trial. And of course, we've had and I'll let Sandy comment further, but we've this is very exciting for the potential partner we are in conversation with, as it really accelerate, the past to BLA approval and it's also reduced the cost. Sandy? Speaker 200:58:19Yes. I think an enormous credit is due to Peter Marks and his group at the agency. They have broken a logjam. They've made a public statement that they wanted more gene therapies for genomic medicines for rare diseases to move forward. And that to do that, you have to look at studies that are manageable and endpoints that are achievable. Speaker 200:58:46And that's why this study has then got the notice of lots of people who frankly were standing at the sidelines of Fabry disease wondering how to get it to registration. This is a very manageable study that not only we'll look at biopsy results, but we'll also look at the and this is a direct quote from the agency of the totality of the data and the benefit that it brings to patients. And I think that is such a healthy way to look at medicine approval. And we look forward getting to this into the hands of the partner and to patients and registration as quickly as possible. Speaker 1000:59:30Got it. Thanks so much. Operator00:59:33And thank you. And one moment for our next question. And our next question comes from Yanan Xu from Wells Fargo. Your line is now open. Speaker 700:59:51Hi, thanks for taking our question. This is Kwan on for Yanan. So just a follow-up on the prior fabric questions. Can you share what the potential partners might be looking for? And can we expect to see additional kidney biopsy data from the STAR study? Speaker 701:00:08And I have a follow-up. Speaker 201:00:12So the partners are looking we're very simply looking for compelling clinical data, real benefit that would make patients move from ERT and we now have 13 patients that are off ERT over a year in some cases and no desire to go back on to ERT. I think that's really important. And some of them had been on ERT for a significant time. And some and in those patients, their SF-thirty six is significant and they are moving changing category of false MSSI, which is the investigator rating. So as they are now even though they were treated with the ERT, they're now even better with the gene therapy. Speaker 201:00:58And finally, 7 of them in 7 of them that came in with antibodies, 5 of them, the antibodies have completely disappeared, completely disappeared and then 2 of them significantly reduced. And those are the kind of antibodies that limit the effect eventually limit the effectiveness of the treatment. That's what the partners see and think, wow, this is the meds and that we will be able to take forward. But until we had the second part, which was the regulatory pathway that was manageable, they were cautious. And now that we're the only clinical stage asset for Fabry disease, where we have the best in class data and we have a way forward with the regulatory authorities. Speaker 201:01:42This is a natural place for any pharma company that's looking for a Phase 3 asset to come. Speaker 701:01:50Got it. Thank you so much. My second question is on the pure CapEx. So on the stacked BBB CapEx, can you share how you achieved the 100 fold t targeting on the Ligar? Thank you. Speaker 201:02:05Amy, can you explain that? Speaker 301:02:07Yes, I'm happy to take that. As you saw from the slides that I just presented, we started with a library of 100,000,000 different novel capsids. And we went through a whole screening process using non human primates in order to select for capsids that were enriched in the brain. Although we didn't design specifically the capsids to be detargeted to the liver, we do believe that there's some relationship between that liver detargeting and the really improved targeting of the brain that we saw in those studies. And that's possibly what enabled us to find a capsid that was so well transducing the non human primate brain. Speaker 201:02:41And why is that important Amy? Speaker 301:02:43Well, it's important because the liver is such a thing for intravenously administered AAVs actually by any route. We know that the AAV can go to the liver and it can be potentially an issue for some patients. It's better if we can find a capsid that targets the tissue that we want to transduce to treat these diseases, which in this case is the central nervous system and limits that exposure to the peripheral tissue for safety. Speaker 701:03:08Got it. Thank you so much for all the colors. Operator01:03:13And thank you. And our next question comes from Ambedita Gupta from TD Cowen. Your line is now open. Speaker 401:03:28Hi, guys. This is Anwita on for with you today. Congrats on all the progress and the fantastic data presented today. What are your early thoughts on the potential clinical trial design for the first study with the NAV1.7 in chronic neuropathic pain? And then if you could also provide some color on maybe who would be the ideal patient for this program would be super helpful. Speaker 401:03:51Thank you. Speaker 201:03:53Natalie, can you comment on the route to forward for NaV1.7? Speaker 601:03:58Yes. Yes. Thank you. Yes, we are planning to file an IND for NAV1.7 by the end of this year. And we are finishing our GLP tox study and our clinical manufacturing. Speaker 601:04:16So we will also finalize our clinical protocol. At this point, we are not commenting on the design of the trial or the endpoints, but we are well underway in planning those studies. Speaker 201:04:31Agree, Natalie. I read the protocol last week or the version that's being circulated. And the bit that struck me is in one study, 17% of patients with intractable pain described their life as being worse than death. This is not a toothache or a bunionectomy that has been described for NAV1.8. This is the kind of intractable pain that dominates your life and makes these patients consider suicide and that their life is just awful. Speaker 201:05:04We need to get this into patients as soon as possible. So we've got that protocol ready to go. We've had discussions with the agency about how to move forward. And once we get that IND done and we're heading to the clinic, we will share that with you because I think it's important that patients get to hear that there's this opportunity coming that will replace hopefully all of these anti epileptics and opiates are used in this dreadful condition. Operator01:05:52And our next question comes from Gena Wang from Barclays. Your line is now open. Speaker 1101:05:59Hi, good afternoon. This is Harshita on for Gena. Thank you so much for the detailed color this afternoon and thank you for taking our questions. Most of them have been answered, but I just had a quick follow-up on SABBI. Given your recent update, I was curious, can you help categorize the importance of improvement in health scores, specifically for the SF-thirty six survey. Speaker 1101:06:23Could you provide color on how the general health and physical components scores are rated? Are they equally rated or is there a higher rate to one of the components? Thank you so much. Speaker 201:06:35Natalie, can you cover that? Speaker 601:06:37Yes. So in our Phase III study, it's primarily initially a safety study, but we're also collecting a lot of data in the patient. And really we are looking as you know, Fabry is a multifaceted disease and we're looking at many different parameters, including kidney function, heart function, pain score, GI score and general health. So at this point, we're collecting all those points and every what is remarkable is that the body of this data all point in the same direction of improvement in the patient. Of course, we're following those patients and the numbers of patient with more and more time since treatment is increasing every month and we're collecting this data. Speaker 601:07:30But the data at World really show that we have maintenance of EGR's far slope, we have improvement in GI score, in FOSM SSI, in SF-thirty six, in pain. So everything is tracking in the right direction. So at this point, there is not one that is more necessarily more important than the other in the Phase onetwo trial. Operator01:08:06And I am showing no further questions. I would now like to turn the call back over to Louise Wilkie for closing remarks. Speaker 101:08:15Thank you once again for joining us today, and thank you for all your questions. As a reminder, you'll be able to access the presentation that we gave today on the Investor Relations section of the Sangamo website after this call. We look forward to keeping you updated on our future developments. Thank you. Operator01:08:30This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.Read morePowered by